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bkerensanathwill: T-shirts order is pending00:06
bkerensa:D00:06
bkerensaonly cost $57000:06
nathwilleek00:14
bkerensaslangasek: Uhh who would I ping about a Debian Mailing list turning into a spam haven?03:33
bkerensahttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mt-om-devel/2012-September/thread.html03:33
bkerensaevery month now nigerian spam ads03:34
slangasekbkerensa: the project owner05:29
bkerensaslangasek: k05:30
slangasekhttps://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-mt-om/05:30
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P_Riggstest18:15
bkerensaP_Riggs: Test not found18:16
bkerensa:D18:17
bkerensamorning nathwill18:17
P_RiggsJust "testing" this connection out during lunch... Setting it up ect...18:18
bkerensaP_Riggs: No worries :)18:25
bkerensaHow did you find Ubuntu Oregon?18:25
P_RiggsI went to Last Fridays meeting - thank U for asking.18:26
bkerensacool18:29
P_RiggsCHAT18:32
P_RiggsStill setting up Preferences inside Xchat.18:33
MaskilPDXGood morning18:41
P_Riggsquit18:42
P_RiggsI'm back - changes required restart.18:45
blkperlslangasek: can you slip vi into the debian installer it would make life so much easier18:47
blkperlnano is infuriating to use when you system is broken18:47
slangasekblkperl: no, sorry :)18:48
blkperl:P18:48
P_RiggsThanks It's working - See some of ya this Friday.18:53
bkerensablkperl: nano FTW!19:00
bkerensa:D19:00
* bkerensa is actually considering switching to vi19:00
bkerensastill on the fence19:00
bkerensaslangasek: How is the Hilton? :)19:03
bkerensaNo windows I hear19:03
slangasekyes, all Ubuntu in here19:04
blkperlbkerensa: you have so much to learn.19:06
blkperlvimtutor19:06
blkperlis your friend19:06
bkerensablkperl: the biggest hurdle for me is vim has more keystrokes to do things19:08
bkerensalike closing vi is two keys right?19:09
tgm4883`bkerensa, I switched to VIM s few months ago19:17
bkerensahmm19:17
tgm4883`way better than nano19:17
tgm4883`oh, and real vim, not the crappy vim-tiny that ships with ubuntu19:17
bkerensaLOL19:18
bkerovim-minimal19:18
bkerovim-notyourmoms19:18
tgm4883`vim-ihateyouandnowihaveapuppetmanifesttoinstallreadvimonallourservers19:18
blkperlbkerensa: no, you can :x19:18
bkerensathats two keys19:19
bkerensa: and x19:19
bkerensaCtrl+x is much quicker19:19
bkerensarequires one hand19:19
tgm4883`bkerensa, ctrl+x is two keys?19:19
bkerensawell yes19:20
tgm4883`granted :x is three key presses19:20
bkerensa=/19:20
bkerensayes19:20
bkerensaso one more keystroke plus two hands required19:20
bkerensathat is fail19:20
bkerensanano just needs more sexy19:20
bkerensaif I could get a nice color scheme that would be nice19:20
tgm4883`searching is nicer too19:20
bkerensahmm19:22
bkerensawhat is wrong Ctrl+W19:22
bkerensaalways works fine for me19:22
bkerensaor can you search more than one file?19:23
bkerensacan you bind vim to certain keys? can I make it mimic nano?19:23
tgm4883`bkerensa, IDK19:24
tgm4883`bkerensa, searching in vim19:24
tgm4883` /searchterm19:24
tgm4883`one key ;)19:24
bkerensaslangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/weston/fix-control/+merge/12414319:30
bkerensaso I was trying to push a patch to Debian last night for Weston19:30
bkerensahowever when I debcheckout its giving a error about "ref HEAD"19:31
bkerensaand git clone does the same19:31
bkerensaHi MaskilPDX19:48
slangasekbkerensa: that means the git repo isn't set up sanely :P20:29
bkerensaslangasek: ok well then I well use that excuse for not pushing a patch upstream20:30
bkerensa:D20:30
bkerensanathwill: http://i.imgur.com/sMJ5P.jpg <-- Kegbot20:31
slangasekbkerensa: you can use whatever excuses you like, but that doesn't change our obligations to do the right thing by Ubuntu as a whole when deciding whether to carry deltas20:31
bkerensaslangasek: well how can I submit a patch if I cannot get the source package?20:32
slangasekbkerensa: oh, this is an X-team package? hmmm20:32
bkerensa=/20:32
bkerensayes20:32
slangasekyou don't get source packages using debcheckout20:32
bkerensawhy not?20:32
bkerensaoh20:32
slangasekyou get source branches using decheckout20:32
slangaseksource packages are 'apt-get source', or... that other thing I forget20:32
bkerensaapt-get source pulls from Ubuntu though20:32
slangasekone sec while I get the command name20:32
slangasekbkerensa: pull-debian-source <package>20:33
bkerensak20:33
bkerensaslangasek: pull-debian-source: Error: Unable to find weston in Debian suite "sid".20:34
bkerensahow do I specify experimental?20:34
bkerensaI am unsure why I want to send a patch upstream anyways20:34
bkerensawe already have a newer version of weston in Ubuntu then Debian Experimental20:34
slangasekbkerensa: oh, experimental only?  no idea then20:35
bkerensait seems like we are maintaining the package even20:35
bkerensano idea why dholbach suggest a patch20:35
slangasekbkerensa: so 'debcheckout' will still /work/, you just have to manually select your branch afterwards20:35
slangasekdebcheckout weston; cd weston; git branch -a20:36
slangasekthen git branch debian-experimental origin/debian-experimental20:36
slangasekthen git checkout debian-experimental20:36
bkerensaslangasek: and can you remind me how to generate a patch for debian based on the changes I make there20:42
nathwillgit format-patch master?20:43
slangasekbkerensa: git add ; git commit; git format-patch HEAD^20:44
slangasekbkerensa: there is no master :)20:44
nathwillah20:44
slangaseker, nathwill ^^20:44
nathwillwonder if that's a political statement20:44
bkerensalawl20:45
bkerensaslangasek: can I use submittodebian to send that patch?20:45
bkerensathe one generated20:45
slangasekbkerensa: you can do that too; in that case, dch, describe the change, debuild -uc -us -S, submittodebian20:46
bkerensaslangasek: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address20:47
bkerensa=/20:47
bkerensahow do I bypass that20:47
bkerensaoh wtf20:47
slangasekby not having 'ubuntu' listed in $DEBEMAIL20:47
bkerensa=/20:48
bkerensayes but that clearly will not work since I use a ubuntu e-mail?20:48
bkerensa=/20:48
slangasekno, you just unset the DEBEMAIL variable20:51
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* tgm4883` sighs21:53
* tgm4883` just sat though 2 hours of FERPA presentation because someone thought moving to google apps is a FERPA violation :(21:54
nathwillinteresting theory...22:16

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