[00:06] nathwill: T-shirts order is pending [00:06] :D [00:06] only cost $570 [00:14] eek [03:33] slangasek: Uhh who would I ping about a Debian Mailing list turning into a spam haven? [03:33] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mt-om-devel/2012-September/thread.html [03:34] every month now nigerian spam ads [05:29] bkerensa: the project owner [05:30] slangasek: k [05:30] https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-mt-om/ === c_smith- is now known as c_smith === lubotu1` is now known as lubotu1 === Phil_N is now known as P_Riggs [18:15] test [18:16] P_Riggs: Test not found [18:17] :D [18:17] morning nathwill [18:18] Just "testing" this connection out during lunch... Setting it up ect... [18:25] P_Riggs: No worries :) [18:25] How did you find Ubuntu Oregon? [18:26] I went to Last Fridays meeting - thank U for asking. [18:29] cool [18:32] CHAT [18:33] Still setting up Preferences inside Xchat. [18:41] Good morning [18:42] quit [18:45] I'm back - changes required restart. [18:47] slangasek: can you slip vi into the debian installer it would make life so much easier [18:47] nano is infuriating to use when you system is broken [18:48] blkperl: no, sorry :) [18:48] :P [18:53] Thanks It's working - See some of ya this Friday. [19:00] blkperl: nano FTW! [19:00] :D [19:00] * bkerensa is actually considering switching to vi [19:00] still on the fence [19:03] slangasek: How is the Hilton? :) [19:03] No windows I hear [19:04] yes, all Ubuntu in here [19:06] bkerensa: you have so much to learn. [19:06] vimtutor [19:06] is your friend [19:08] blkperl: the biggest hurdle for me is vim has more keystrokes to do things [19:09] like closing vi is two keys right? [19:17] bkerensa, I switched to VIM s few months ago [19:17] hmm [19:17] way better than nano [19:17] oh, and real vim, not the crappy vim-tiny that ships with ubuntu [19:18] LOL [19:18] vim-minimal [19:18] vim-notyourmoms [19:18] vim-ihateyouandnowihaveapuppetmanifesttoinstallreadvimonallourservers [19:18] bkerensa: no, you can :x [19:19] thats two keys [19:19] : and x [19:19] Ctrl+x is much quicker [19:19] requires one hand [19:19] bkerensa, ctrl+x is two keys? [19:20] well yes [19:20] granted :x is three key presses [19:20] =/ [19:20] yes [19:20] so one more keystroke plus two hands required [19:20] that is fail [19:20] nano just needs more sexy [19:20] if I could get a nice color scheme that would be nice [19:20] searching is nicer too [19:22] hmm [19:22] what is wrong Ctrl+W [19:22] always works fine for me [19:23] or can you search more than one file? [19:23] can you bind vim to certain keys? can I make it mimic nano? [19:24] bkerensa, IDK [19:24] bkerensa, searching in vim [19:24] /searchterm [19:24] one key ;) [19:30] slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/weston/fix-control/+merge/124143 [19:30] so I was trying to push a patch to Debian last night for Weston [19:31] however when I debcheckout its giving a error about "ref HEAD" [19:31] and git clone does the same [19:48] Hi MaskilPDX [20:29] bkerensa: that means the git repo isn't set up sanely :P [20:30] slangasek: ok well then I well use that excuse for not pushing a patch upstream [20:30] :D [20:31] nathwill: http://i.imgur.com/sMJ5P.jpg <-- Kegbot [20:31] bkerensa: you can use whatever excuses you like, but that doesn't change our obligations to do the right thing by Ubuntu as a whole when deciding whether to carry deltas [20:32] slangasek: well how can I submit a patch if I cannot get the source package? [20:32] bkerensa: oh, this is an X-team package? hmmm [20:32] =/ [20:32] yes [20:32] you don't get source packages using debcheckout [20:32] why not? [20:32] oh [20:32] you get source branches using decheckout [20:32] source packages are 'apt-get source', or... that other thing I forget [20:32] apt-get source pulls from Ubuntu though [20:32] one sec while I get the command name [20:33] bkerensa: pull-debian-source [20:33] k [20:34] slangasek: pull-debian-source: Error: Unable to find weston in Debian suite "sid". [20:34] how do I specify experimental? [20:34] I am unsure why I want to send a patch upstream anyways [20:34] we already have a newer version of weston in Ubuntu then Debian Experimental [20:35] bkerensa: oh, experimental only? no idea then [20:35] it seems like we are maintaining the package even [20:35] no idea why dholbach suggest a patch [20:35] bkerensa: so 'debcheckout' will still /work/, you just have to manually select your branch afterwards [20:36] debcheckout weston; cd weston; git branch -a [20:36] then git branch debian-experimental origin/debian-experimental [20:36] then git checkout debian-experimental [20:42] slangasek: and can you remind me how to generate a patch for debian based on the changes I make there [20:43] git format-patch master? [20:44] bkerensa: git add ; git commit; git format-patch HEAD^ [20:44] bkerensa: there is no master :) [20:44] ah [20:44] er, nathwill ^^ [20:44] wonder if that's a political statement [20:45] lawl [20:45] slangasek: can I use submittodebian to send that patch? [20:45] the one generated [20:46] bkerensa: you can do that too; in that case, dch, describe the change, debuild -uc -us -S, submittodebian [20:47] slangasek: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address [20:47] =/ [20:47] how do I bypass that [20:47] oh wtf [20:47] by not having 'ubuntu' listed in $DEBEMAIL [20:48] =/ [20:48] yes but that clearly will not work since I use a ubuntu e-mail? [20:48] =/ [20:51] no, you just unset the DEBEMAIL variable === sbeattie is now known as retro-grouch === retro-grouch is now known as sbeattie [21:53] * tgm4883` sighs [21:54] * tgm4883` just sat though 2 hours of FERPA presentation because someone thought moving to google apps is a FERPA violation :( [22:16] interesting theory...