[00:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: T-shirts order is pending
[00:06] <bkerensa> :D
[00:06] <bkerensa> only cost $570
[00:14] <nathwill> eek
[03:33] <bkerensa> slangasek: Uhh who would I ping about a Debian Mailing list turning into a spam haven?
[03:33] <bkerensa> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mt-om-devel/2012-September/thread.html
[03:34] <bkerensa> every month now nigerian spam ads
[05:29] <slangasek> bkerensa: the project owner
[05:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: k
[05:30] <slangasek> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-mt-om/
[18:15] <P_Riggs> test
[18:16] <bkerensa> P_Riggs: Test not found
[18:17] <bkerensa> :D
[18:17] <bkerensa> morning nathwill
[18:18] <P_Riggs> Just "testing" this connection out during lunch... Setting it up ect...
[18:25] <bkerensa> P_Riggs: No worries :)
[18:25] <bkerensa> How did you find Ubuntu Oregon?
[18:26] <P_Riggs> I went to Last Fridays meeting - thank U for asking.
[18:29] <bkerensa> cool
[18:32] <P_Riggs> CHAT
[18:33] <P_Riggs> Still setting up Preferences inside Xchat.
[18:41] <MaskilPDX> Good morning
[18:42] <P_Riggs> quit
[18:45] <P_Riggs> I'm back - changes required restart.
[18:47] <blkperl> slangasek: can you slip vi into the debian installer it would make life so much easier
[18:47] <blkperl> nano is infuriating to use when you system is broken
[18:48] <slangasek> blkperl: no, sorry :)
[18:48] <blkperl> :P
[18:53] <P_Riggs> Thanks It's working - See some of ya this Friday.
[19:00] <bkerensa> blkperl: nano FTW!
[19:00] <bkerensa> :D
[19:00]  * bkerensa is actually considering switching to vi
[19:00] <bkerensa> still on the fence
[19:03] <bkerensa> slangasek: How is the Hilton? :)
[19:03] <bkerensa> No windows I hear
[19:04] <slangasek> yes, all Ubuntu in here
[19:06] <blkperl> bkerensa: you have so much to learn.
[19:06] <blkperl> vimtutor
[19:06] <blkperl> is your friend
[19:08] <bkerensa> blkperl: the biggest hurdle for me is vim has more keystrokes to do things
[19:09] <bkerensa> like closing vi is two keys right?
[19:17] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, I switched to VIM s few months ago
[19:17] <bkerensa> hmm
[19:17] <tgm4883`> way better than nano
[19:17] <tgm4883`> oh, and real vim, not the crappy vim-tiny that ships with ubuntu
[19:18] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:18] <bkero> vim-minimal
[19:18] <bkero> vim-notyourmoms
[19:18] <tgm4883`> vim-ihateyouandnowihaveapuppetmanifesttoinstallreadvimonallourservers
[19:18] <blkperl> bkerensa: no, you can :x
[19:19] <bkerensa> thats two keys
[19:19] <bkerensa> : and x
[19:19] <bkerensa> Ctrl+x is much quicker
[19:19] <bkerensa> requires one hand
[19:19] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, ctrl+x is two keys?
[19:20] <bkerensa> well yes
[19:20] <tgm4883`> granted :x is three key presses
[19:20] <bkerensa> =/
[19:20] <bkerensa> yes
[19:20] <bkerensa> so one more keystroke plus two hands required
[19:20] <bkerensa> that is fail
[19:20] <bkerensa> nano just needs more sexy
[19:20] <bkerensa> if I could get a nice color scheme that would be nice
[19:20] <tgm4883`> searching is nicer too
[19:22] <bkerensa> hmm
[19:22] <bkerensa> what is wrong Ctrl+W
[19:22] <bkerensa> always works fine for me
[19:23] <bkerensa> or can you search more than one file?
[19:23] <bkerensa> can you bind vim to certain keys? can I make it mimic nano?
[19:24] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, IDK
[19:24] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, searching in vim
[19:24] <tgm4883`>  /searchterm
[19:24] <tgm4883`> one key ;)
[19:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/weston/fix-control/+merge/124143
[19:30] <bkerensa> so I was trying to push a patch to Debian last night for Weston
[19:31] <bkerensa> however when I debcheckout its giving a error about "ref HEAD"
[19:31] <bkerensa> and git clone does the same
[19:48] <bkerensa> Hi MaskilPDX
[20:29] <slangasek> bkerensa: that means the git repo isn't set up sanely :P
[20:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: ok well then I well use that excuse for not pushing a patch upstream
[20:30] <bkerensa> :D
[20:31] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://i.imgur.com/sMJ5P.jpg <-- Kegbot
[20:31] <slangasek> bkerensa: you can use whatever excuses you like, but that doesn't change our obligations to do the right thing by Ubuntu as a whole when deciding whether to carry deltas
[20:32] <bkerensa> slangasek: well how can I submit a patch if I cannot get the source package?
[20:32] <slangasek> bkerensa: oh, this is an X-team package? hmmm
[20:32] <bkerensa> =/
[20:32] <bkerensa> yes
[20:32] <slangasek> you don't get source packages using debcheckout
[20:32] <bkerensa> why not?
[20:32] <bkerensa> oh
[20:32] <slangasek> you get source branches using decheckout
[20:32] <slangasek> source packages are 'apt-get source', or... that other thing I forget
[20:32] <bkerensa> apt-get source pulls from Ubuntu though
[20:32] <slangasek> one sec while I get the command name
[20:33] <slangasek> bkerensa: pull-debian-source <package>
[20:33] <bkerensa> k
[20:34] <bkerensa> slangasek: pull-debian-source: Error: Unable to find weston in Debian suite "sid".
[20:34] <bkerensa> how do I specify experimental?
[20:34] <bkerensa> I am unsure why I want to send a patch upstream anyways
[20:34] <bkerensa> we already have a newer version of weston in Ubuntu then Debian Experimental
[20:35] <slangasek> bkerensa: oh, experimental only?  no idea then
[20:35] <bkerensa> it seems like we are maintaining the package even
[20:35] <bkerensa> no idea why dholbach suggest a patch
[20:35] <slangasek> bkerensa: so 'debcheckout' will still /work/, you just have to manually select your branch afterwards
[20:36] <slangasek> debcheckout weston; cd weston; git branch -a
[20:36] <slangasek> then git branch debian-experimental origin/debian-experimental
[20:36] <slangasek> then git checkout debian-experimental
[20:42] <bkerensa> slangasek: and can you remind me how to generate a patch for debian based on the changes I make there
[20:43] <nathwill> git format-patch master?
[20:44] <slangasek> bkerensa: git add ; git commit; git format-patch HEAD^
[20:44] <slangasek> bkerensa: there is no master :)
[20:44] <nathwill> ah
[20:44] <slangasek> er, nathwill ^^
[20:44] <nathwill> wonder if that's a political statement
[20:45] <bkerensa> lawl
[20:45] <bkerensa> slangasek: can I use submittodebian to send that patch?
[20:45] <bkerensa> the one generated
[20:46] <slangasek> bkerensa: you can do that too; in that case, dch, describe the change, debuild -uc -us -S, submittodebian
[20:47] <bkerensa> slangasek: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[20:47] <bkerensa> =/
[20:47] <bkerensa> how do I bypass that
[20:47] <bkerensa> oh wtf
[20:47] <slangasek> by not having 'ubuntu' listed in $DEBEMAIL
[20:48] <bkerensa> =/
[20:48] <bkerensa> yes but that clearly will not work since I use a ubuntu e-mail?
[20:48] <bkerensa> =/
[20:51] <slangasek> no, you just unset the DEBEMAIL variable
[21:53]  * tgm4883` sighs
[21:54]  * tgm4883` just sat though 2 hours of FERPA presentation because someone thought moving to google apps is a FERPA violation :(
[22:16] <nathwill> interesting theory...