=== Svpernov109 is now known as Svpernova09 [13:15] wb netritious [13:16] ty wrst [13:16] how are things out west? [13:16] ty wrst [13:17] and why you are welcome :) [13:17] a little cloudy..they say it may rain. how bout your neck of the woods wrst? [13:18] got a bit of lag on the server...will be over soon :) [13:18] ha ha [13:19] little on the cloudy side here also [13:19] * wrst just notices that ubuntu 12.10 will ship with python3 [13:20] all kinds of radical happenin' with ubuntu lately [13:20] yes i don't picture python 3 being that large of a deal packagers will just have to specify if they need python 2 [13:21] i remember when that happened running arch and I had just one or two issues and as soon as the packagers fixed the package it was no issue, until then you just had to run it specifically under python2 [13:28] i many times wish I had the gumption and desire to focus on learning python [13:28] i've gotten started several times and usually just kinda drop it, as I really don't have a NEED to do it === xTEMPx is now known as xTEMPLARx [13:43] xTEMPLARx: I don't know anything :) [13:43] mayhaps [13:43] :) [13:44] I'm doing a remote session with a customer in Qatar... bbiaf [13:44] that's long distance computing! [13:44] * wrst wonders how xTEMPLARx pronounces Qatar [13:50] wrst: have you checked out qubes-os yes [13:50] xTEMPLARx: if you have some time to kill you should check that out ^ [13:51] why is installing LILO still an option in the debian installer? does anyone still use LILO? and if so, why not grub? [14:03] is LILO still being developed? [14:03] netritious: no i really haven't had time to check anything much, but i must say i'm not a security hawk :) [14:09] wrst: I've HEARD that Qatar is supposed to be pronounced "Cutter", but I usually just say kuh-TAR. [14:09] well that's what i have heard also xTEMPLARx :) [14:25] LILO? please god no. kill it with FIRE [14:32] * wrst looks for the gas and matches [14:44] LILO ain't never hurt nobody.. it served the community well for a long long time [15:00] xTEMPLARx: i've never used it [15:00] i'm not old enough :) [15:00] hah! [15:00] jerk [15:00] * xTEMPLARx is old [15:00] * xTEMPLARx cries [15:00] * wrst agrees [15:01] * xTEMPLARx cries more. [15:01] actually xTEMPLARx i'm just a late arrival :) [15:01] * wrst is old also [15:01] pfft [15:01] * xTEMPLARx is 41 now :( [15:01] although, I do my best not to act like it [15:01] i'm 7 years behind xTEMPLARx [15:03] see? [15:03] whippersnapper [15:03] :) [15:11] so my chrome browser is like version 10.something [15:11] just tried to update an extension, and it says "you can't install because you should be running at least version 21" [15:11] 21?! [15:11] why is mine so old? [15:12] * xTEMPLARx is gonna rough somebody up over this oversight! [15:12] * xTEMPLARx looks around.. [15:12] * xTEMPLARx finds only himself at fault. [15:12] Rule number 1: don't talk about fight club [15:14] xTEMPLARx: yeah and if you run chromium its old also [15:14] i just figured out why its so old [15:14] i had installed an old "unstable" version [15:14] so of course it didn't find any newer versions [15:15] i prefer running chromium and they really don't update it in the repos [15:15] why do you prefer it? [15:15] i think you have to run a ppa for some reason [15:15] you really want to know? [15:15] xTEMPLARx: its icon is blue and it matches my background better in gnome-shell :) [15:15] really that's the reason :) [15:16] yes sir [15:16] rofl [15:16] you do know you can change the icon right? [15:16] yeah but that requires effort and for my use i see no difference, and i don't have the google spies watching me [15:16] * wrst looks around for the evil googlers [15:17] >_< [15:19] and generally in my distro hopping chromium is in repos [15:20] :D [17:18] xTEMPLARx: you might find this interesting: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/09/13/166203/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-driver-windows-competitive-but-only-with-kde [17:19] nice [17:19] thankfully, I ain't usin' Unity [17:19] * xTEMPLARx phwews! [17:34] maybe you need to use kde xTEMPLARx [17:34] pfft! [18:42] xTEMPLARx: no love for kde? [18:47] and wb chris4585, and "good mornign" :P [18:48] lol thanks [18:48] how are thigns going? [18:57] good, waiting for my package [18:58] did you order some electronic goodies? [19:26] wrst, yeah, sorry for the delay had to go out to the mail box :) [19:27] what did you get? [19:27] I ordered three, 120mm fans with 103cfm [19:28] $6.99 a piece from tigerdirect, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132022 [19:29] ahh cool [19:29] hmm no pun intended [19:29] but hey if it works [19:30] they should be pretty good, especially for the price [19:40] yes low price is nice :) [20:50] for those interested... zoneminder works quite well [21:30] we use zoneminder at the hackerspace, works well [21:30] used motion at the old space.