[13:15] <wrst> wb netritious
[13:16] <netritious> ty wrst
[13:16] <wrst> how are things out west?
[13:16] <netritious> ty wrst
[13:17] <wrst> and why you are welcome :)
[13:17] <netritious> a little cloudy..they say it may rain. how bout your neck of the woods wrst?
[13:18] <netritious> got a bit of lag on the server...will be over soon :)
[13:18] <wrst> ha ha
[13:19] <wrst> little on the cloudy side here also
[13:19]  * wrst just notices that ubuntu 12.10 will ship with python3
[13:20] <netritious> all kinds of radical happenin' with ubuntu lately
[13:20] <wrst> yes i don't picture python 3 being that large of a deal packagers will just have to specify if they need python 2
[13:21] <wrst> i remember when that happened running arch and I had just one or two issues and as soon as the packagers fixed the package it was no issue, until then you just had to run it specifically under python2
[13:28] <xTEMPx> i many times wish I had the gumption and desire to focus on learning python
[13:28] <xTEMPx> i've gotten started several times and usually  just kinda drop it, as I really don't have a NEED to do it
[13:43] <wrst> xTEMPLARx:  I don't know anything :)
[13:43] <xTEMPLARx> mayhaps
[13:43] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[13:44] <xTEMPLARx> I'm doing a remote session with a customer in Qatar... bbiaf
[13:44] <wrst> that's long distance computing!
[13:44]  * wrst wonders how xTEMPLARx pronounces Qatar
[13:50] <netritious> wrst: have you checked out qubes-os yes
[13:50] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: if you have some time to kill you should check that out ^
[13:51] <netritious> why is installing LILO still an option in the debian installer? does anyone still use LILO? and if so, why not grub?
[14:03] <wrst> is LILO still being developed?
[14:03] <wrst> netritious:  no i really haven't had time to check anything much, but i must say i'm not a security hawk :)
[14:09] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  I've HEARD that Qatar is supposed to be pronounced "Cutter", but I usually just say kuh-TAR.
[14:09] <wrst> well that's what i have heard also xTEMPLARx :)
[14:25] <Svpernova09> LILO? please god no. kill it with FIRE
[14:32]  * wrst looks for the gas and matches
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> LILO ain't never hurt nobody.. it served the community well for a long long time
[15:00] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i've never used it
[15:00] <wrst> i'm not old enough :)
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> hah!
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> jerk
[15:00]  * xTEMPLARx is old
[15:00]  * xTEMPLARx cries
[15:00]  * wrst agrees
[15:01]  * xTEMPLARx cries more.
[15:01] <wrst> actually xTEMPLARx i'm just a late arrival :)
[15:01]  * wrst is old also
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> pfft
[15:01]  * xTEMPLARx is 41 now :(
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> although, I do my best not to act like it
[15:01] <wrst> i'm 7 years behind xTEMPLARx
[15:03] <xTEMPLARx> see?
[15:03] <xTEMPLARx> whippersnapper
[15:03] <wrst> :)
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> so my chrome browser is like version 10.something
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> just tried to update an extension, and it says "you can't install because you should be running at least version 21"
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> 21?!
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> why is mine so old?
[15:12]  * xTEMPLARx is gonna rough somebody up over this oversight!
[15:12]  * xTEMPLARx looks around..
[15:12]  * xTEMPLARx finds only himself at fault.
[15:12] <xTEMPLARx> Rule number 1:  don't talk about fight club
[15:14] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: yeah and if you run chromium its old also
[15:14] <xTEMPLARx> i just figured out why its so old
[15:14] <xTEMPLARx> i had installed an old "unstable" version
[15:14] <xTEMPLARx> so of course it didn't find any newer versions
[15:15] <wrst> i prefer running chromium and they really don't update it in the repos
[15:15] <xTEMPLARx> why do you prefer it?
[15:15] <wrst> i think you have to run a ppa for some reason
[15:15] <wrst> you really want to know?
[15:15] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: its icon is blue and it matches my background better in gnome-shell :)
[15:15] <wrst> really that's the reason :)
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> yes sir
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> rofl
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> you do know you can change the icon right?
[15:16] <wrst> yeah but that requires effort and for my use i see no difference, and i don't have the google spies watching me
[15:16]  * wrst looks around for the evil googlers
[15:17] <xTEMPLARx> >_<
[15:19] <wrst> and generally in my distro hopping chromium is in repos
[15:20] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[17:18] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: you might find this interesting: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/09/13/166203/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-driver-windows-competitive-but-only-with-kde
[17:19] <xTEMPLARx> nice
[17:19] <xTEMPLARx> thankfully, I ain't usin' Unity
[17:19]  * xTEMPLARx phwews!
[17:34] <wrst> maybe you need to use kde xTEMPLARx
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> pfft!
[18:42] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no love for kde?
[18:47] <wrst> and wb chris4585, and "good mornign" :P
[18:48] <chris4585> lol thanks
[18:48] <wrst> how are thigns going?
[18:57] <chris4585> good, waiting for my package
[18:58] <wrst> did you order some electronic goodies?
[19:26] <chris4585> wrst, yeah, sorry for the delay had to go out to the mail box :)
[19:27] <wrst> what did you get?
[19:27] <chris4585> I ordered three, 120mm fans with 103cfm
[19:28] <chris4585> $6.99 a piece from tigerdirect, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132022
[19:29] <wrst> ahh cool
[19:29] <wrst> hmm no pun intended
[19:29] <wrst> but hey if it works
[19:30] <chris4585> they should be pretty good, especially for the price
[19:40] <wrst> yes low price is nice :)
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> for those interested... zoneminder works quite well
[21:30] <Svpernova09> we use zoneminder at the hackerspace, works well
[21:30] <Svpernova09> used motion at the old space.