[00:01] <true_techie> Troy^, i saw a lot of information which did not include the name of the port
[00:04] <lnxslck> Troy^, do you use ntop?
[00:05] <LinuxGhost> Some body help me, my /boot/grub/ directory doesnt contaain menu.lst nor any kernel file thus I cant boot into Ubuntu partition on my dual boot PC. I can see the ubuntu system files from windows 7 through ext2explore. What i must do to boot into Ubuntu.This started after i ran a command . . . UPGRADE in terminal after being unable to update system so it looks like it has removed all my kernel files.Help me....
[00:05] <Jagst3r15> can you push changes to a file from gedit directly? is there a plugin for that?
[00:06] <Jagst3r15> i guess ftp or something
[00:07] <omegasmasher> #backtrack
[00:07] <LinuxGhost> Some body help me, my /boot/grub/ directory doesnt contaain menu.lst nor any kernel file thus I cant boot into Ubuntu partition on my dual boot PC. I can see the ubuntu system files from windows 7 through ext2explore. What i must do to boot into Ubuntu.This started after i ran a command . . . UPGRADE in terminal after being unable to update system so it looks like it has removed all my kernel files.Help me....
[00:07] <alpre_> LinuxGhost: ubuntu uses grub 2 now
[00:07] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll BBT. Bye! -wave-
[00:07] <blackshirt> linuxghost, not menu.lst anymore..but grub.cfg instead
[00:08] <LinuxGhost> So what do ?
[00:08] <LinuxGhost> how to solve my problem?
[00:09] <alpre_> reinstall grub from livecd LinuxGhost
[00:09] <blackshirt> linuxghost, look at /etc/grub.d/ directory.. Edit on them, grub.cfg was autogenerated by update-grub
[00:10] <blackshirt> Don't edit directly on grub.cfg..that was not recommended,
[00:11] <LinuxGhost1> you mean i must download an ubuntu 12.04 burn it on a disc run as live cd and choose an option from it to reinstall grub?
[00:12] <LinuxGhost1> ive disconnected
[00:12] <LinuxGhost1> alpre_
[00:13] <alpre_> LinuxGhost1: yes, you boot into livemode, there is an article on ubuntu.help about reinstall grub livecd
[00:14] <LinuxGhost1> thanks
[00:14] <blackshirt> a lot of guide
[00:14] <alpre_> np, it is in section 2.2.2. just google reinstall grub ubuntu
[00:14] <alpre_> LinuxGhost1:
[00:14] <LinuxGhost1> yes
[00:16] <phong_> hi, does anyone know how to setup svnmanager in linux?
[00:17] <phong_> thanks
[00:17] <phong_> please do help
[00:17] <blackshirt> phong_ is there that packages on repository?
[00:17] <phong_> blackshirt, i'm new
[00:17] <phong_> i need apache server right?
[00:18] <blackshirt> lets try search with $apt-cache search svnmanager
[00:18] <phong_> i want to setup ubuntu to be repository stuff
[00:18] <phong_> then on windows i can use tortoise svn
[00:18] <phong_> blackshirt, will you help me with linux stuff?
[00:19] <blackshirt> don't worry...
[00:19] <blackshirt> A lot of people here have capabilities
[00:19] <phong_> ok
[00:19] <phong_> do you want to remote in my ubuntu?
[00:19] <LinuxGhost1> alpe_
[00:19] <Canadian1296> Is it possible to use multiple casper-rw files on a persistent USB? The largest one i can have is 4GB (FAT32 limitation), so can i get capser to use multiple files?
[00:21] <LinuxGhost1> to reinstall grub from livecd can i do it with any version or must be the last one i was using before grub being removed?
[00:22] <OerHeks> Canadian1296, try pendrive for multi boot linux >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[00:22] <LinuxGhost1> where ubuntu.help?
[00:22] <OerHeks> LinuxGhost1, the last one, grub2
[00:22] <OerHeks> !grub2
[00:22] <phong_>  blackshirt are you there ?
[00:24] <blackshirt> phong_ yess
[00:24] <jabulmer12__> Morning
[00:24] <LinuxGhost1> thanks oerheks
[00:26] <blackshirt> !svnmanager
[00:26] <blackshirt> pong_ nothing there svnmanager
[00:26] <bjrohan> anyone here familiar with GIMP? i have problems with my text tool, can't get help on the GIMP channel yet.
[00:26] <blackshirt> !svn
[00:27] <gry> bjrohan, what's the problem, please ask in full so if someone actually knows gimp they can help you
[00:27] <blackshirt> Pong_, if you want svn, install svn on your server
[00:28] <blackshirt> !version svn
[00:28] <phong_> how to do it?
[00:28] <blackshirt> !svn version
[00:29] <phong_> blackshirt, i'm also new to ubuntu too man
[00:29] <mineogan> test please ignore
[00:29] <phong_> wanna learn
[00:29] <bjrohan> I am running 12.04 and GIMP 2.8.2 (installed via Synaptic). Every time I change the font of the text tool, GIMP crashes
[00:29] <blackshirt> phong_ why not try git?
[00:29] <phong_> blackshirt, do u use teamviewer?
[00:30] <blackshirt> phong_ you want me to remote access your server
[00:30] <phong_> yes bro
[00:30] <OerHeks> bjrohan, gimp 2.8.2 isn't in the repo, did you use PPA?
[00:31] <blackshirt> have you ssh server installed
[00:31] <dr_willis> heh - i cant even figutre out how to change the font in the text tool in 2.8.? gimp in 12.10 ;P
[00:31] <bjrohan> Oh, must have been PPA
[00:31] <bjrohan> It had been working fine, then POOF it doesn't
[00:31] <OerHeks> bjrohan, PPA's are not supported here, so you better contact the owner of that ppa.
[00:31] <phong_> blackshirt, i just install ubuntu on vmware
[00:31] <bjrohan> AH
[00:32] <phong_> like 5 mins ago
[00:32] <dr_willis> There we go.  that text tool is a little.. weird. ;)  but at leat its not crashing  bjrohan  :)
[00:32] <phong_> blackshirt, can we use teamviewer ?
[00:32] <phong_> that is easy to install on ubuntu
[00:32] <blackshirt> phong_ you do it on virtual machine.. I no have access on them
[00:32] <phong_> well can you run teamviewer then?
[00:33] <blackshirt> I mean, i have no access
[00:33] <phong_> what do u meant?
[00:33] <bjrohan> OerHeks & dr_willis So I uninstall GIMP then remove the GIMP ppa that I have? reinstall a different version of GIMP?
[00:33] <phong_> blackshirt, i can provide you the id and pass for teamviewer
[00:34] <blackshirt> phong_, no, i don't have play with teamviewer or vnc
[00:34] <phong_> i ran ubuntu as bridge mode
[00:34] <phong_> www.teamviewer.com
[00:34] <blackshirt> lets me try to ssh, pm me
[00:35] <delinquentme> OerHeks, it doesnt tell me that I need to make a reserved user to handle the DB ???
[00:35] <delinquentme> is that secure enough?
[00:35] <delinquentme> ( on the OS )
[00:36] <grizcreative> need some help with torrentflux on ubuntu server...any takers?
[00:36] <OerHeks> delinquentme, i am not sure if that could be a security hole.
[00:38] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  find a differnt ppa, use source perhaps.  check the backports repos..
[00:38] <poz> I have a problem with my dual boot and grub. I currently have my ubuntu on another HD and want to boot from it and have windows 7 as the default after 10 seconds. I can boot into win 7 if I set it to from the bios. If i set it to boot from by ubuntu HD, it will boot win 7. However, and this is where the problem is, if I boot into ubuntu and restart and try to boot into win 7, I get an error. To boot back into win 7 I have to change it in the
[00:38] <poz> bios
[00:39] <bjrohan> ok
[00:39] <TheMadDrizzle> Someone tell me wtf this latest update push for ubuntu did to my grub dual boot?
[00:39] <bjrohan> thanks
[00:39] <poz> The error is "no such device: ################" - "invalid signature." - "press and key to continue..."
[00:40] <TheMadDrizzle> Anyone else have the same problem?  Latest update earlier today bypasses grub?
[00:40] <poz> lol themaddrizzle is having a problem with his grub and dual boot as well. is it the same as mine?
[00:41] <codemonkey> Is there software available anywhere that is capable of network analysis / tone generation in software?
[00:41] <TheMadDrizzle> poz:  You just update today?
[00:41] <codemonkey> Im looking for a applicaion version of a network fluke
[00:41] <poz> this has been a problem for a few weeks now
[00:42] <TheMadDrizzle> Nah mine just started today.
[00:42] <poz> So any anyone help me?
[00:42] <TheMadDrizzle> I auto updated and it said some new lts version?  And now my grub menu wont pop up
[00:42] <poz> oh i see
[00:43] <poz> I have a problem with my dual boot and grub. I currently have my ubuntu on another HD and want to boot from it and have windows 7 as the default after 10 seconds. I can boot into win 7 if I set it to from the bios. If i set it to boot from by ubuntu HD, it will boot win 7. However, and this is where the problem is, if I boot into ubuntu and restart and try to boot into win 7, I get an error. To boot back into win 7 I have to change it in the
[00:43] <poz> bios. The error is "no such device: ################" - "invalid signature." - "press and key to continue..."
[00:43] <TheMadDrizzle> So you're trying to boot from ubuntu hdd, but win7 is on another disk and thats what you want to load?
[00:44] <codemonkey> poz: AHCI issue with the HDD im guessing?
[00:44] <codemonkey> are you having to switch back and forth from AHCI to LEGACY?
[00:44] <poz> what is AHCI? and yes
[00:44] <OerHeks> codemonkey +1 good analyse
[00:45] <poz> I am not sure what AHCI and LEGACY is
[00:45] <codemonkey> poz: you most likely have a config issue with grub not taking notes from your bios setup. did you install ubuntu under the AHCI settings or the LEGACY. (LEGACY im guessing)
[00:46] <poz> What ever the default is. I never came across any option for that
[00:46] <poz> I am using grub customizer though
[00:47] <codemonkey> hmm which one?
[00:48] <poz> I dont know, it is called Grub Customizer
[00:48] <poz> Grub Customizer 3.0.2
[00:48] <poz> "Grub Customizer is a graphical interface to configure the grub2/burg settings"
[00:48] <codemonkey> poz: perhaps it does not matter, that is unless you want to parse for the AHCI hook in the kernel. it may be better to use a cannon to kill the mosquito and reinstall ubuntu with the AHCI setting set.
[00:49] <OerHeks> codemonkey, i think reinstall windows ( legacy/ide > AHCI) ubuntu does not start in IDE mode.
[00:50] <poz> What is AHCI? that option never came up when I was installing ubuntu
[00:50] <Tech-Itch> oh boy
[00:50] <codemonkey> poz: OerHeks may be right. I dont know if Grub or lilo parse the bios for that setting.
[00:51] <poz> what do you mean?
[00:51] <OerHeks> No, you need to set it manually.
[00:51] <codemonkey> poz: LMGTFY: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface
[00:51] <OerHeks> poz, what do you need to change in order to boot windows?
[00:51] <poz> I need to boot from the HD that windows is installed on
[00:52] <codescience> poz, not in grub?
[00:52] <Pockets> this is my first time using irc; do I just ask my question, or wait until the current one is answered?
[00:52] <codemonkey> poz: so your not dual booted, your hdd swapping for the changes?
[00:52] <poz> no
[00:52] <codemonkey> *os change
[00:52] <OerHeks> Pockets, , just ask
[00:52] <codescience> Pockets, ask away!
[00:52] <Pockets> thanks
[00:52] <poz> However, if I change it to boot from the drive with ubuntu on it, grub works and I can boot into windows 7
[00:53] <Pockets> I am trying to use Kobo Desktop ereader on Ubuntu 12.04. I have it properly installed, (it is not available from a repository, but downloaded from the kobo developers) and must be run through the terminal. However, when I run it, I get the error"error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.s0.44: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory"
[00:53] <codescience> poz, buggered mbr on the windows drive.
[00:53] <Pockets> how do I get the required library?
[00:53] <poz> But if I boot into ubuntu like I am in right now and restart, somthing changes that causes an error when trying to boot into windows 7
[00:53] <codescience> poz, what is the error?
[00:54] <poz> The error is "no such device: ################" - "invalid signature." - "press and key to continue..."
[00:54] <Pockets> I have searched the web for ~ an hour but found nothing
[00:54] <poz> there are a bunch of number and such, i just did not type them all out
[00:54] <codescience> poz, grub pointing to the wrong drive location perhaps?
[00:54] <poz> I think so
[00:55] <Noobuntu> poz, grub has got the uuid of ur drive wrong
[00:55] <poz> So i need to adjust it to the correct one. how can I find the location for that?
[00:55] <bobweaver> Pockets,  is libzip1 installed ?
[00:56] <codemonkey> Pockets: try installing one or both of the following.
[00:56] <codemonkey> libicu44-dbg - International Components for Unicode
[00:56] <codemonkey> libicu44 - International Components for Unicode
[00:56] <Pockets> yes
[00:56] <codemonkey> looks like dependency hell
[00:56] <Pockets> thanks
[00:56] <bobweaver> Pockets,  32 bit ?
[00:56] <r0csteady> hi, I am still very new to open source & ubuntu. i usually use adobe acrobat pro to convert files to pdf's. i am looking for an alternative.
[00:57] <Pockets> yes, 32bits
[00:57] <bobweaver> Pockets,  there is a deb
[00:57] <poz> Any suggestions?
[00:57] <codemonkey> Pockets: dont know if it will help but instead of installing packages with apt-get try using aptitude, its a little more intelligent on resolving conflicts. Unless installing from source...
[00:57] <r0csteady> there are so many options out there --cups-pdf --tetex-extra
[00:57] <r0csteady> any suggestions?
[00:57] <bobweaver> Pockets,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653896
[00:57] <lauratika> poz: chech under /etc/fstab/ to reasign the hd
[00:58] <codemonkey> ok ill fire across the room again, does anyone know of a FLUKE style application for linux that will work like a network analyzer?
[00:59] <Pockets> bobweaver, I'll try that, thanks a lot
[00:59] <Noobuntu> use "blkid" command to get the uuid of ur windows boot drive
[01:00]  * r0csteady thinks maybe this not the right channel for this type of ?
[01:00] <lauratika>  sudo blkid
[01:00] <poz> so does fstab have the corret UUID or the current UUID?
[01:00] <bobweaver> Pockets,  I would also look at Post #2 here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12188908
[01:01] <bobweaver> Pockets,  Look 90% the same as what is going on with you
[01:01] <codemonkey> r0csteady: libre office has an option to change documents into .PDF's but its a one way creation.
[01:01]  * r0csteady will check out libre office
[01:01] <r0csteady> ty codemonkey
[01:02] <codemonkey> np
[01:02] <cynic> Eyah I use that option often it's awesome sauce.
[01:02] <cynic> in libreoffice
[01:02] <lauratika> poz:  sudo blkid will give you the current uuid
[01:02] <poz> This is what one of the line says, could the error be a problem?# / was on /dev/sdc2 during installation
[01:02] <poz> UUID=53f11e2a-aa2c-48dc-a55f-78d96a0bab1c /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:03] <poz> oh okay
[01:04] <poz> Thanks everyone!
[01:05] <blackshirt> pong_, still there guys?
[01:05] <blackshirt> pogn
[01:06] <blackshirt> pong_ i lost my connection
[01:07] <Linuxfreak78> Hello all. I am hoping someone can either help me or point me in the right direction.  I have a fairly new Dell XPS 17 laptop, and the fan runs consistently on it -- mostly when the screen is on (even if I'm not doing anything), while the fan slows down (but does not stop) when the screen goes off.  I'm  not sure where to start.  Suggestions, anyone?
[01:09] <codemonkey> Linuxfreak78: got cats / dogs? good ol can of air in the heatsync can work wonders, dell is pretty good about the thermal paste on the processor / coprocessor. If it was a Gateway, HP or Compaq id say disassemble and put on thermal paste. But the dell should be ok. First step check the fans...
[01:10] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[01:10] <OerHeks> Linuxfreak78, ^^
[01:11] <silverarrow> hi OerHeks
[01:11] <OerHeks> hi silverarrow
[01:11] <Pockets> bobweaver, THANK YOU, that second thread was what I needed
[01:12] <silverarrow> OerHeks,  not everyday you meet a heks
[01:12] <bobweaver> Pockets,  Np got it from http://googlubuntu.com
[01:12] <Linuxfreak78> OK well I can check that.  But just another point, I dual boot, and under Windows the fan hardly comes on, even when I'm watching videos, playing games, etc.  Are there any good sensor indicators for Unity?
[01:12] <cimo> Please, I have a problem in qt does not show me the results in consol I do not know why I use ubuntu 12.04
[01:12] <Pockets> now I just have to contend with my school's proxy and starting up the application for the first time without proper internet :P
[01:12] <bobweaver> cimo,  what are you doinng with QT ?
[01:13] <bobweaver> good luck Pockets
[01:13] <codemonkey> Linuxfreak78: might you be converted to playonlinux ?
[01:13] <Pockets> thank you so much
[01:13] <OerHeks> Linuxfreak78, on that page there is a sensor-applet too.
[01:14] <H4rx0rBG00> !help
[01:14] <OerHeks> silverarrow, do you really nead one for your ubuntu Question?
[01:14] <Tech-Itch> does anyone know how to redirect audio from one app to another using jackd ?
[01:14] <cimo> Program my some projects c + + but does not show results
[01:15] <Pockets> oh, is there a way to force a program to use a certain proxy AND authentication? (the system wide network proxy settings only allow proxy address, not sign-in)
[01:15] <bobweaver> cimo,  qt-creaator ?
[01:15] <cimo> غثس
[01:15] <cimo> yes
[01:16] <bobweaver> !arabic |cimo
[01:16] <cimo> thanks
[01:17] <lauratika> i have an issue with pulse audio every time some use the other account in ubuntu sound wont work till i restart pulseaudio any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:17] <bobweaver> cimo,  np
[01:20] <kostkon> lauratika, give: groups <yourusername> | grep pulse
[01:21] <lauratika> kostkon: type groups username then grep?
[01:21] <kostkon> lauratika, it's one line
[01:22] <lauratika> so from give:
[01:22] <dr_willis> groups <yourusername> | grep pulse
[01:22] <dr_willis> if your username was 'billgates'   then --->    groups billgates | grep pulse
[01:23] <dr_willis> I dont have pulse in my groups here. ;) but i am on a 12.10 box.
[01:23] <dr_willis>  groups willis
[01:23] <dr_willis> willis : willis adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[01:24] <lauratika> so my group is laruatika
[01:25] <lauratika> so lauratika : lauratika | grep pulse?
[01:25] <Linuxfreak78> No playonlinux here.  I ran the sensors command, and the temperature (56 celsius) is well below the 'high'  value of 86, so my system is warm, but not hot.  What would cause the fan(s) to run like this continuously?
[01:27] <phong_> hi all
[01:28] <phong_> does anyone know how to setup svn server in ubuntu?
[01:28] <dr_willis>  apt-cache search svn | grep server
[01:28] <dr_willis> libapache2-svn - Apache Subversion server modules for Apache httpd
[01:28] <lauratika> what grep pulse will do?
[01:28] <dr_willis> searches for the word 'pulse'
[01:29] <codemonkey> phong_:https://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/svn-server-on-ubuntu-with-https-access/
[01:29] <dr_willis> night all
[01:29] <codemonkey> dr_willis: no rest for the wicked...
[01:29] <lauratika> dr_willis it brings nothing back}
[01:29] <lauratika> that is what should do?
[01:30] <Guest45619> vikas
[01:30] <Guest45619> vikas
[01:31] <crackerjackz> i'm about to send my friend home with a ubuntu live cd - he needs to chroot and reinstall grub, might there be a guide or something ic an print off for him real quick?
[01:32] <codemonkey> crackerjackz: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:34] <aristidesfl> hi
[01:34] <aristidesfl> how can I set LC_ALL to all users?
[01:35] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: elaborate
[01:35] <aristidesfl> codescience actually, it's something else
[01:35] <aristidesfl> I've a service deluge.conf
[01:36] <aristidesfl> and I've loved in and exported LC_ALL
[01:36] <aristidesfl> loged in
[01:37] <aristidesfl> it seems not to detect LC_ALL when I use the service to start
[01:37] <aristidesfl> but if I fire deluge directly it does
[01:37] <gurrag> if I download a 12.10 prerelease now, will it still function later on [with updates] as if I had downloaded it after the October release date? Or will it somehow be "marked" and not equivalent to a "real" 12.10 release?
[01:38] <ValkrieMissile> Hello all.
[01:39] <codemonkey> ValkrieMissile: keep it on a leash will ya?
[01:39] <ValkrieMissile> LOL codemonkey <3
[01:39] <ValkrieMissile> ;P
[01:41] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: still checking http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq
[01:45] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: perhaps this will help. https://bhsingh.googlecode.com/svn-history/r444/trunk/bin/squeeze
[01:46] <aristidesfl> codemonkey how so?
[01:46] <matbee> any idea why my text is hollow/outlined only on chrome?
[01:47] <matbee> :-/
[01:47] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: have you been playing with this block in the config?
[01:47] <codemonkey> sed -i '/^DIR_MODE/s|^.*$|DIR_MODE=0700|' $ETC/adduser.conf
[01:47] <codemonkey> ALL_USERS="vault:1 admin:2 guest:3 monitor:4 debug:5 test:6
[01:47] <elky> matbee, what text?
[01:48] <matbee> elky, all text. actually... until I zoom in about 500%
[01:49] <aristidesfl> codemonkey no
[01:49] <aristidesfl> I don't have a adducer.conf
[01:49] <aristidesfl> I don't have a adduser.conf
[01:49] <elky> matbee, what theme does it say you're using on chrome://settings/personal ?
[01:50] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: perhaps I dont understand your question, what is it you are trying to do?
[01:51] <elky> matbee, chrome://settings/advanced also lets you customise the font. perhaps a past you fiddled with that?
[01:52] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: perhaps try #deluge
[01:58] <poz> Can someone help me with my dual boot?
[01:59] <poz> there are a lot of details so I cant type it all out in one time
[01:59] <poz> ?
[02:00] <poz> Is anyone here?
[02:00] <jerry_l> dual boot
[02:00] <poz> yes, dual boot
[02:00] <dragonslay> use pastebin to post
[02:00] <jerry_l> where are you at in the process?
[02:01] <poz> jerrym are you talking to me?
[02:01] <poz> jerry_1: are you talking to me?
[02:01] <jerry_l> are you considering dual boot or having an issue wit dual boot.
[02:01] <poz> an issue
[02:01] <jerry_l> yeppers poz
[02:02] <jerry_l> which os's
[02:02] <poz> k so what happens is this... I will go through the process until I get to the error
[02:02] <dragonslay> what's your problem poz?
[02:02] <poz> I am in windows 7
[02:02] <jerry_l> lol.. i already have win8.
[02:02] <poz> I restart and change my boot to a different HD that has ubuntu on it
[02:03] <jerry_l> sounds good so far..
[02:03] <dragonslay> ok
[02:04] <poz> I have grub configured with grub customizer such that win 7 is the top defalt boot option... this works find and it loads windows 7 perfectly
[02:04] <jerry_l> i wounder if SDA1 is changing with SDA2...
[02:05] <bjrohan> What is the channel for the beta version of Ubuntu?
[02:05] <poz> now i restart leaving it to boot off of the HD that ubuntu is on
[02:05] <Richhh> possible to browse google images anonymously? (i dont know where to ask this)
[02:05] <poz> and boot into ubuntu fine
[02:06] <codemonkey> Richhh: look up www.torproject.org
[02:06] <poz> And then I restart again and when I get to Grub I chose to boot into windows 7 and it gives this error...
[02:06] <jerry_l> ...beta.. isnt that like VHS tape?
[02:06] <Richhh> thx
[02:06] <poz> The error is "no such device: ################" - "invalid signature." - "press and key to continue..."
[02:06] <codemonkey> np
[02:06] <poz> do you follow?
[02:07] <Richhh> codemaniac invalid security certificate
[02:07] <kieppie> hi all. I'm getting a  "general protection fault" on my 64-bit 12.04 - how do I get to the bottom of this?
[02:07] <Richhh> codemonkey
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, #ubuntu+1
[02:07] <jerry_l> monkey thats a nice site.
[02:08] <codemonkey> Richhh: https://www.torproject.org/
[02:08] <mmoebius> Heyja. I encounter a strange bug in in the 12.04 Live CD most times the CD starts, apport reports a failure in "do-release-upgrade" but gives no further explanation. Does anybody have a clue on what might be going on there ?
[02:09] <mmoebius> Also, googling "do-release-upgrade crash" and similar does not turn up anything that makes sense, because that is not happening during an upgrade but anytime the Live CD starts
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> mmoebius, This a live cd on a usb with a persistent file with upgrades, or just the cd.
[02:10] <mmoebius> Would anybody know what in the Live CD starts /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade after the UI was initialized ?
[02:11] <ceeregz> hi there.  anywhere i can get help with wine/vineyard??
[02:11] <jerry_l> poz did you try to reimage win 7?
[02:11] <crackerjackz> codemonkey, ty
[02:11] <mmoebius> wilee-nilee: It is a Live CD on a USB stick, but there are no persistence files
[02:11] <codemonkey> np
[02:11] <jerry_l> did you first make an image of your hard drive??
[02:12] <mmoebius> wilee-nilee: Can you tell me which system/softwaree/daemon/foo starts this script ?
[02:12] <ceeregz> wine/vineyard help any1??
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> mmoebius, Not realy just curious is all.
[02:12] <bjrohan> How do you fix broken packages?
[02:12] <mmoebius> wilee-nilee: Seen that bug before ?
[02:13] <jtsmith1287> Ok, kind of long question here. I see a lot of questions being asked, so no worries if this can't get answered. I recently installed via the windows installer (12.04LTS) Everything seemed to work fine, but my computer reboots after a few seconds of being on the desktop. I was concerned there might be something going on with my overclock, so I turned it off. Didn't help. I don't have problems on Windows side, and I can't keep Ubunt
[02:13] <jtsmith1287> Any ideas where I can start looking? (sorry, I ran out of characters on first line)
[02:14] <mmoebius> wilee-nilee: My background is that next month some guys and me are to install ubuntu on like 120 laptops of freshmen and it's a little bad if the first thing they see is a crash report :-(
[02:14] <jerry_l> smith its probably true that ubuntu may crash.
[02:14] <ceeregz> nobody know anything about wine problems??
[02:15] <jerry_l> AND.... ubuntu does not like beiing installed on NTFS..,. but probably will kinda work.
[02:15] <mmoebius> bjrohan: apt-get install update ; apt-get install -f     that cleans most problems afaik
[02:15] <ceeregz> my wine was installing Steam.exe but crashed mid way through.  now steam is partly installed but i cannot find it in the remove list in vineyard
[02:15] <jerry_l> jtsmith...
[02:15] <jtsmith1287> Jerry: I'm guessing it's been made to work, or they wouldn't have a windows installer option on the front page of the website?
[02:16] <jerry_l> ...
[02:16] <examancer> My goal is to have ubuntu installed on my SSD and my /home on a software RAID (LVM) spanning my two 2TB drives. Do I need to set up the /home mount during the install, or is it relatively straight forward to move my /home onto another drive after install?
[02:16] <jerry_l> its so you can try it out and get used to it.....
[02:17] <jtsmith1287> I know a lot of people that have theirs running on NTFS having used a recent 'wubi' type installer.
[02:17] <bjrohan> Thank you
[02:17] <jerry_l> Linix was not intended to actually be ran from a NTFS partition.
[02:17] <jerry_l> do you have a second spare drive?
[02:17] <aristidesfl> codemonkey http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/1981#comment:5
[02:18] <aristidesfl> codemonkey [ERROR   ] 01:17:15 autoadd:80 Unable to auto add torrent due to improper filename encoding: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 2: ordinal not in range(128)
[02:18] <jerry_l> ??? floodbot dont go .
[02:18] <mmoebius> examancer: moving /home is easy if you are not afraid of working on the console
[02:18] <jtsmith1287> jerry: I am not really an expert, but I don't think the partition is my problem.
[02:19] <mmoebius> examancer: Otherwise, configure the LVM from the Live CD  even before installing
[02:19] <examancer> mmoebius: when you say console are you talking mostly /etc/fstab stuff or is there more to it?
[02:19] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: does it happen to all torrents or just magnet links?
[02:19] <mmoebius> examancer: Well, you need to copy all /home/user from the old location to the new one
[02:19] <aristidesfl> codemonkey never tried with magnets
[02:19] <jerry_l> have you proven it iyet. i can only make sugestions.... and i think there might be a log somewhere about what might be happening during crash.
[02:20] <jerry_l> and you might want ot check your drivers.
[02:20] <aristidesfl> codemonkey it happens with .torrents files
[02:20] <jtsmith1287> I think if the partition was the problem, I would have had issues with the installer as well. It boots up just fine, and everything runs great. About 10-30 seconds after loading desktop however it powers down my machine.
[02:20] <aristidesfl> codemonkey which have non-ascii characters
[02:20] <mmoebius> examancer: so, you create your md RAID, pv, vg, lv and mount it somewhere
[02:20] <aristidesfl> codemonkey my env http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201728/
[02:21] <mmoebius> examancer: then you mv /home/* /mountoint-of-new-home-fs
[02:21] <examancer> mmoebius: sure, that i can do. so just cp the entire /home/me directory. would i copy /home/me to /media/whatever-the-drive-is/me then?
[02:21] <aristidesfl> then I export AC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8, restart deluge, but still the same problem
[02:21] <codemonkey> aristidesfl: try just using magnet links. make sure you are connecting to the trackers via a ssh socks proxy like https://www.torproject.org/ and for the love of pete, (or wendy) use magnet links. .torrent files are a sure bet to get you put on a list, then just wait for tpp
[02:21] <jerry_l> ... are you sure.. does it say ubuntu shuting down? or just trun black after awhile?
[02:21] <jtsmith1287> The screen just goes black, and then POST.
[02:21] <mmoebius> examancer: and then you unmount /mountpoint-of-new-home-fs, add an fstab entry and mount the new fs on /home
[02:22] <aristidesfl> codemonkey thanks for the advise, but that doesn't solve my problem
[02:22] <mmoebius> examancer: I think, you should mv /home/me to /media/whatever-the-drive-is/me  but you got the idea
[02:22] <jerry_l> thats a crash not a shut down. can you do stuff before it crashes? like google/yahoo or anything?
[02:22] <examancer> k. i'll give it a shot. installing a 12.04 fresh but my old 11.10 /home is backed up externally so i'm sure i can recover
[02:22] <examancer> thanks
[02:22] <mmoebius> examancer: before mounting stuff on /home, /home should be an empty directory
[02:22] <jtsmith1287> No. It's pretty quick.
[02:22] <poz> jerry_1, how can I reimage win 7?
[02:22] <examancer> oh, makes sense
[02:23] <examancer> can i delete /home/me while i'm logged into 'me'?
[02:23] <jerry_l> probably while loading drivers it locks up and reboots.
[02:23] <jtsmith1287> Doesn't it load drivers prior to desktop boot?
[02:23] <jerry_l> i would try disabling devices in bios. do you have any add on cards?
[02:24] <jtsmith1287> I have only a graphics card.
[02:24] <mmoebius> examancer: deleting or moving /home/me might be difficult while logged in
[02:24] <jerry_l> printers? external usb stuff? firewire?
[02:24] <jtsmith1287> Nope.
[02:24] <jerry_l> what type ?
[02:24] <jtsmith1287> Very basic mouse and keyboard, monitor. That's it.
[02:24] <jtsmith1287> Well, and ethernet.
[02:25] <mmoebius> examancer: eigtherm restart in "resuce mode" , choose "root shell" or log out, then change to the raw VT (Ctrl-Alt-F1...F6), log in there, sudo -i and move it then
[02:25] <jtsmith1287> It's a kensinston 3 button mouse, and a generic microsoft keyboard.
[02:25] <jerry_l> BRB smoke break. and we will needpastebin. if someone could explain pastebin please..
[02:25] <jtsmith1287> the gpu is a radeon hd 6770
[02:25] <examancer> ok
[02:26] <examancer> thanks for the tips
[02:26] <mmoebius> examancer: that is because without graphical login there will not be any gvfs, gvonf, you-name-it, ... accessing /home/me/file
[02:26] <mmoebius> examancer: Good luck.
[02:26] <examancer> sure, and root is at /root
[02:26] <mmoebius> examancer: Otherwise, the rescue console should be the safest way
[02:27] <examancer> i'll use that. i'll have to look up the right fstab settings, unless you can point me to some sane ones
[02:27] <mmoebius> examancer: and, you' ll need a /etc/fstab entry fro the new  /home
[02:27] <examancer> i know which /dev/sd** it is and all that
[02:27] <mmoebius> examancer: You have to make your own ;-) , wait a second
[02:27] <examancer> i just don't know about some of the "other" stuff
[02:28] <poz> so has anyone read and understood my problem?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> poz, Have you run a update-grub in ubuntu?
[02:29] <mmoebius> If you use LVM, your lv will turn up as /dev/<volgroup>/<lvname>  ... taking that and assuming you make mkfs.ext4 on that device to create an Ext4 filesystem:
[02:29] <cornell> Evening all...
[02:30] <mmoebius> examancer: fstab-entry: /dev/<volgroup>/<lvname>      /home    ext4     defaults     0 1
[02:30] <examancer> yeah, i'm going to use the gparted GUI probably, but i'm aware of the weird device name
[02:30] <mmoebius> mmoebius: that's it
[02:30] <examancer> perfect. i thought only / could be 0 1 though and /home had to be 0 2
[02:31] <mmoebius> examancer: you can make the fstab entry and then issue 'mount /home' and 'umount /home' from the console (or rescue shell) to see if it works and if the fstab-entry is correct
[02:31] <cornell> Well, I'd installed XFCE4 and xubuntu-desktop, to try other DE's, instead of the one with Ubuntu 12...  They look better... have menus... and frequently text boxes won't accept text :-(
[02:32] <mmoebius> examancer: That's the order of filesystem checks. all 0 1 are checked simultaneously which makes sense bvecause they are different devices physically in order to speed up things
[02:32] <examancer> k
[02:32] <examancer> any reason to use anything other than ext4 on an SSD?
[02:32] <mmoebius> examancer: On the other hand, I think the check order is ignored today on speedy computers, so 0 2 is as fine.
[02:33] <examancer> Any thoughts on whether its worth it to have a swap partition with 8GB of RAM? Leaning towards no.
[02:34] <mmoebius> examancer: sry, I don't own any SSD. but besides from that I heard rumors that some SSD optimize their wear-leveling strategies for "known" filesystems,  .... which in some bad luck cases means NTFS and FAT32 ... ans thus they'd wear out a tad faster with ext4 than with NTFS or FAT32, but that' not more than a rumor
[02:35] <mmoebius> examancer: You'll need aswap partition for hibernate (suspend-to-disk)
[02:35] <poz> wilee-nilee, yes i have
[02:36] <jerry_l> smith are you still there?
[02:36] <mmoebius> examancer: Apart from that, A little swap hasn't hurt in the bad case something gobbles up all the real ram
[02:36] <examancer> hmm... don't really use that, but i guess its good to have. I'm guessing swap needs to be at least as big is my RAM and 8GB on my little 60GB SSD is asking a lot.
[02:36] <mmoebius> examancer: I'd not put swap on the SSD
[02:36] <mmoebius> examancer: too much traffic, tha controller cannot optimize it.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> poz, How about a chkdsk on the windows?
[02:37] <mmoebius> examancer: Consider the swap a  "safety  cushion" before the mighty OOM killer comes to catch you ;-) The HD is just fine for that
[02:38] <mmoebius> examancer: besides, you're not on windows where anything occupies the swap unless that is absolutely needed (... or was needed at a point in the past)
[02:38] <examancer> hmm. i think i'll skip swap for now. if i run out of 8GB doing what this machine will be doing (mostly home server stuff) then 16 or 20 including swap probably isn't going to save me
[02:39] <redwarriors25_> how can i reinstall the flash plugin
[02:39] <mmoebius> examancer: The swap saves you from the OOM killer and you see it's slowing down (becaus of swapping a lot) ands then you can take corective measures before e.g. ssh and vpn got killed
[02:39] <examancer> yeah, i might just rather have it die
[02:39] <mmoebius> examancer: The bad thing about out-of-memory killing is that it always hits the wrong processes first ;-)
[02:40] <examancer> is it possible to add swap post-install?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> yes
[02:40] <mmoebius> And it's only single processes, like gconf, udev or dbus not responding  because *they got killed * ... that is the definitive _not want_ situation.
[02:41] <mmoebius> examancer: sure
[02:41] <mmoebius> examancer: make some space somewhere (even a file can do) and make it an fstab entry
[02:41] <poz> wilee-nilee, what would that accomplish?
[02:42] <examancer> cool. i'll wait until after i set up the LVM to figure out where i might want to put swap
[02:42] <miraj> I always thought swap areas had to be partitions?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> poz, Windows may not be being read by grub if there are problems in the partition.
[02:42] <mmoebius> examancer: swap-fstab entry: /path/to/device/or/file    none     swap    sw    0   0
[02:42] <mmoebius> examancer: then issue 'swapon -a'
[02:43] <mmoebius> examancer: Oh, and befor you issue 'swapon' , you must run 'mkswap /path/to/device/or/file' to make the device/file a swap area
[02:44] <examancer> this might be one of the worst CPU power to SSD throughput ratios of any machine ever
[02:45] <mmoebius> examancer: If you go with the file, make it with dd:   dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/file bs=1M count=1 seek=1376M         ... if you want a (sparse) 1377MB file in an instant
[02:45] <miraj> saw this in man swapon "You  should not use swapon on a file with holes." how do make sure a file has no holes?
[02:45] <Nautilus> I could use a reminder... how do I set a sudo that works with in the GUI (as opposed to CLI)?
[02:45] <mmoebius> examancer: Before weeping, consder CPU throughput to RAM latency ;-)
[02:45] <soulisson> hi, do anonymous pipes  get destroyed when the process which invoked the system call ends ?
[02:46] <examancer> mmoebius: DDR3 so the CPU is seriously the bottleneck
[02:46] <examancer> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157247 << my CPU/mobo
[02:46] <examancer> super low power though :-)
[02:47] <newcode> hey guys
[02:47] <newcode> when I restart apache on my ubuntu natty, I get this
[02:48] <newcode> [Thu Sep 13 02:45:14 2012] [notice] seg fault or similar nasty error detected in the parent process
[02:48] <redwarriors25_> how can i reinstall the flash plugin
[02:48] <examancer> haha. funny developer
[02:48] <mmoebius> examancer: latency, latency, ... read U.Drepper on cpu and memory, http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/cpumemory.pdf
[02:48] <miraj> at least they didn't call the error "naughty"
[02:48] <mmoebius> examancer: sorry, that is a little rude , but it is the *latency* that gets each and any system killed.
[02:49] <newcode> do you guys know where I should start looking?
[02:49] <miraj> newcode : did it work previously?
[02:50] <newcode> I just finished reinstalling the server completely
[02:50] <newcode> apache starts
[02:50] <Nautilus> I see that gksudo will let me set sudo for a particular app, but in my case I want to have permissions to eject an optical disc... I don't know if that's even an app or if it is, what it's name is.
[02:50] <newcode> websites don't work thought
[02:50] <newcode> though
[02:50] <miraj> newcode : did it ever used to work on that machine?
[02:50] <newcode> I get weird errors that don't make sense
[02:51] <newcode> yes, but I wiped my server and reinstalled ubuntu
[02:51] <newcode> then apache and the whole stack
[02:51] <newcode> and there I am
[02:51] <newcode> weird errors that dont make sense and when I restart apache
[02:51] <newcode> I get that
[02:51] <Nautilus> segfault is bad
[02:51] <miraj> newcode : what are the changes that some of the memory cam unseated?
[02:51] <Nautilus> newcode: run a memtest to eliminate that as a cause?
[02:52] <newcode> not sure how to do that
[02:52] <Nautilus> boot from an install CD and its an option in the list (last I think)
[02:52] <mmoebius> newcode: Insert the ubuntu live cd, in the boot menu, select "memtest"
[02:52] <newcode> oh, guys, I dont have a GUI
[02:52] <miraj> newcode : did you reinstall because you were having problems?
[02:52] <mmoebius> newcode: prefferably, run the test for like 48 hours
[02:53] <newcode> its ubuntu natty no GUI
[02:53] <newcode> I have it on the cloud
[02:53] <Nautilus> its not a gui thing
[02:53] <mmoebius> newcode: Do you have a management console ?
[02:53] <newcode> nope
[02:53] <newcode> all command line
[02:53] <Nautilus> oh that ram should be ok
[02:53] <morgan> could someone recommend an easy GUI app to hardcode an srt file into an avi?
[02:54] <mmoebius> newcode: In that case it is hopefully *not* a problem with the underlying hardware
[02:54] <examancer> mmoebius: latency, and using tricks to avoid it, like squeezing your working data set to fit into L1/L2 cache, is why one program will run much faster than another program on the same hardware. but throughput and I/O are definitely factors, and even bigger factors in things like databases
[02:54] <examancer> so just depends on what the use case is
[02:54] <examancer> but anyways, no matter what the use case, the E350 is a terribly slow CPU
[02:54] <poz> wilee-nilee, I do not think there is a problem with my windows 7 partition
[02:54] <examancer> I knew it was going to be slow, but I underestimated just how slow. I hear its faster than Atom, but it can't be by much.
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> poz, excellent then carry on.
[02:55] <poz> but it does not solve the problem
[02:55] <mmoebius> examancer: oh, I get it, sorry. AMD E350 fusion. Thy system I am at was running the the same for a while ;-)
[02:55] <poz> the reason why it is not a problem with my windows 7 partition is becuase it boots fine if i have its HD set to boot off of
[02:56] <miraj>  examancer : how slow is this ssd?
[02:56] <mmoebius> examancer: Anyways even for simple workloads like "gzip -1" I never got more than 16 MB/s out of one of it's cores.
[02:56] <examancer> i don't expect the SSD to speed up the system much, but I wanted to isolate the OS from the LVM store, so i can upgrade/wipe the OS partition easier and 60GB SSD are cheaper than most HDD now
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> poz, And grub is not involved then. I'm not going to argue this more than that as it could be any sort of problem really.
[02:57] <mmoebius> examancer: I swapped the machiun after I discovered that even md5summing wasn't any fasxter, where any Corei3 can do 60 MB/s with not much more power
[02:57] <redwarriors25_> where i can find the path of macromedia of ubuntu 10.04
[02:57] <examancer> but i figure at least basic I/O will improve greatly and maybe the CPU won't be working so hard at doing all the LVM overhead for EVERY I/O anymore
[02:58] <examancer> i bought this mobo right before Sandy Brige came out. might have gone that direction otherwise.
[02:58] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: dpkg -l *flash*  .. then look at what packages that gives you, then dpkg -L <package-name>
[02:58] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: the flash plugin should be among that
[02:58] <examancer> doesn't need to be fast though... just hoping this makes it less annoyingly slow
[02:59] <morgan> could someone please recommend an easy GUI app to hardcode an srt file into an avi?
[02:59] <poz> wilee-nilee, but if i have it set to boot off of the HD with ubuntu it still works fine. However the problem is when I then load into ubuntu and restart. When I am back into grub, windows 7 does not boot and I get this error...
[02:59] <miraj> examancer :  how slow?
[02:59] <redwarriors25_> ok il try
[02:59] <poz> The error is "no such device: ################" - "invalid signature." - "press and key to continue..."
[03:00] <mmoebius> examancer: Ahem, the E350 is no match to like nothing, as far as my experience goes, well it's quite on par with the dual core Atom D525, but they are both rather slow. For everyday surfing/typing it's okay though.
[03:00] <Darkenvy> Hello
[03:00] <poz> So there is somthing that triggers when I boot into ubuntu that causes grub to not be able to boot into windows 7
[03:00] <Darkenvy> My sound stutters frequently. Its only not noticable when I play dubstep
[03:00] <redwarriors25_> mmoebius nothing found else where??
[03:00] <Nautilus> dont play dubstep
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[03:00] <Darkenvy> well if I dont then I notice the stuttering severely
[03:01] <mmoebius> examancer: The funny thing is its power consumption. As with the Atom D525, the cpu itself has only a few watts, but hte chipset has some whopping 20-30 W
[03:01] <Darkenvy> people say the same fragment of words 5-6 times before it unlocks and continues
[03:01] <Nautilus> Darkenvy: I was just kidding
[03:01] <Darkenvy> it happens within VLC, virtualbox (video within), flash and HTML5
[03:01] <bazhang> !behelpful | Nautilus
[03:01] <Darkenvy> Hey Nautilus we met before
[03:02] <Darkenvy> LOL there is a ubottu for that!
[03:02] <Nautilus> ohyea?
[03:02] <Darkenvy> we have briefly
[03:02] <Darkenvy> I asked you if you were a file browser
[03:02] <poz> does anyone here have a lot of experience dealing with grub and dual boots?
[03:02] <Darkenvy> Anyways, yes stuttering. I dont know at what level theproblem is.
[03:02] <Nautilus> aha.  ;)    A cephalopod
[03:03] <Darkenvy> I cant tell if the video is going to because I can never seem to figure out if the video stutters too (its hard to see)
[03:03] <cknox> I currenly have /quit/quit
[03:03] <cknox> grrr
[03:04] <examancer> miraj: its a 1.6GHz AMD Fusion. super low power in more ways than one :-P
[03:04] <examancer> just takes forever to compile stuff or run some server tools i need to run
[03:04] <miraj>  examancer : how slow are your ssd transgers?
[03:04] <poz> does anyone here have a lot of experience dealing with grub and dual boots?
[03:04] <examancer> like mysql/postresql
[03:04] <miraj>  examancer : how slow are your ssd transfers?
[03:04] <examancer> oh, i dunno. just now installing an SSD
[03:04] <examancer> was running everying on an LVM before
[03:05] <examancer> which probably exacerbated the performance slowness
[03:05] <redwarriors25_> mmoebius nothing found else where??
[03:05] <mmoebius> examancer: The prize quote (from AMD salespeople) about the AMD E350 is its "ingenious" memory controller. The CPU ios using so little of the memory bandwith that the onboard video card memory steam can be interleaved wit the cpu memory access .. *without any significant loss in bandwith* ;-)
[03:06] <bazhang> !grub2 | poz check the wiki
[03:06] <examancer> ha, i wouldn't doubt that
[03:06] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: Not found no nothing nowhere !
[03:06] <examancer> there is no way this CPU can saturate the 1066 DDR3 I have attached to it
[03:06] <redwarriors25_> but i just install it sir
[03:07] <mmoebius> examancer: 'tis a fine little system though. And scince I don't know .... Ubuntu 12.04 maybe it even suspends to disk and hibernates without problems
[03:07] <miraj>  examancer : what sort of interface was your LVM on?
[03:07] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: Installed what ?
[03:07] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: and how ?
[03:07] <examancer> miraj: interface? it was 2x 2TB SATA drives in RAID1 with LVM on top
[03:07] <mmoebius> redwarriors25_: please explain a little more
[03:08] <examancer> now i'll still have the LVM but it will jsut be for /home with / on the SSD
[03:08] <roasted> Is there any way I can echo the current date/time into a text file?
[03:08] <cornell> Tried LXDE... looks good, has menus, and seems to accept text :-)
[03:09] <mmoebius> roasted: 'date >> file-to-write'
[03:09] <mmoebius> roasted: or 'date > file-to-write' if you want to overwrite the entire file with the current date
[03:10] <mmoebius> roasted: also, read 'man date' on the options of 'date +%FORMAT' if you want outputs like YYYY-MM-DD HH:SS etc.
[03:10] <andreim> hello, does reading a file that's being written to at the same time affect it in any way?
[03:10] <mmoebius> andreim: no
[03:10] <roasted> mmoebius, nooo, I want to create a log. The first one you said is perfect! I have some rsync scripts set up via cron but I was never able to figure out how to see an output of when they run in the background.
[03:10] <redwarriors25_> i already installed the flashplayer but i cant see the macromedia folders
[03:10] <roasted> mmoebius, this will work great as it'll  just dump continual dates in the text file. Perfect. thanks again!
[03:11] <mmoebius> roasted: for that,  consider '/usr/bin/logger'
[03:11] <roasted> mmoebius, I am not aware of logger. I'll Google around. Thanks for the tip.
[03:11] <mmoebius> roasted: try 'man logger'
[03:11] <mmoebius> roasted: that is an input into the syslog system.
[03:12] <roasted> mmoebius, so it just dumps rsync runs into syslog?
[03:12] <mmoebius> roasted: Try 'logger TEST234' and some file in /var/log (maybe /var/log/syslog) will get that entry appended
[03:12] <mmoebius> roasted: If you want, yes
[03:12] <roasted> mmoebius, eh, I wouldn't want it to populate in syslog. I'd rather keep things separate for organizational purposes.
[03:13] <roasted> mmoebius, but if logger doesn't NEED to use syslog this could be an option.
[03:13] <mmoebius> roasted: I am not sure, but I think, you can even pipe whole outputs into it like 'command-with-output | logger '
[03:13] <mmoebius> roasted: of course, then it makes sense to filter the output into a separate file in /var/log
[03:14] <roasted> mmoebius, not sure I understand. You mean... rsync -az /home/fred fred@server:/media/backup/fred | logger       ?????
[03:14] <mmoebius> roasted: logger is for syslog entirely
[03:14] <mmoebius> roasted: yep, like htat
[03:14] <roasted> mmoebius, so there's no way to utilize logger WITHOUT syslog?
[03:14] <mmoebius> roasted: ant all the output of rsync  should go to the syslog
[03:14] <rupinder> hello
[03:15] <mmoebius> roasted: Then, just redirect rsync's output. Like 'rsync -foo bar > /path/to/last/rsync-log'
[03:15] <roasted> mmoebius, I would assume that would require --progress to populate anything... I use rsync without --progress... running the command manually results in zero terminal output
[03:15] <mmoebius> roasted: And then you have a logfile for each last run that is overwritten when the new run starts
[03:16] <roasted> mmoebius, I see. The idea is to have a log so I can see when backups ran for the last month... not just the most recent.
[03:16] <mmoebius> roasted: I don't know about --preogress, that is an rsaync option giving you a "progress bar" ?
[03:16] <roasted> mmoebius, --progress is an rsync command which give syou a ton of output while the rsync process is taking place.
[03:16] <roasted> mmoebius, it'll show you each file being transferred and what speed it transfers at.Most times it's impossible to read unless it catches a 1GB file that it needs to sit on for a bit
[03:17] <noah> I'm having some trouble with the new ubuntu 12.04 software updates. When I suspend my laptop I can't resume it without freezing... Basically after resume I come back to the same screen but can't interact with it.
[03:17] <noah> Anyone know what's going on?
[03:18] <mmoebius> roasted: then, make a 'day file' by the command DAYLOG="/path/to/rsync-logfile-$(date+d)" , then run 'rysnc -foo bar > "$DAYLOG" '
[03:18] <roasted> noah, by some strange chance are you using a toshiba laptop? I'm experiencing similar things now, except mine will resume, but half of my Fn keys wont work
[03:18] <mmoebius> roasted: thus, you have up to 31 neat files from the last 31 days
[03:18] <noah> Yes, yes I am
[03:18] <noah> It's good to hear I'm not the only one
[03:18] <mmoebius> roasted: (and one from the last month with 31 days) ;-)
[03:19] <roasted> mmoebius, just looking at this from a black and white perspective, what features would logger give me that would make sense over using date >> /media/NAS/backup_logs?
[03:19] <noah> roasted: is there any way to revert the update, some other things like Mozilla lightning calander sync aren't working
[03:19] <roasted> noah, I'm not sure to be honest. I got into the habit of shutting down and not suspending at all. Far from optimal but I never did find a solution.
[03:19] <roasted> noah, is it an ultrabook?
[03:19] <mmoebius> roasted: I guess none,  except a syslog ouput can be redirected to e.g. a central syslog server or a syslog database.
[03:20] <WHAT_UP> is there a simple way to run something from the terminal so that it automatically gets killed in 10 seconds (if it didn't quit on its own)?
[03:20] <noah> roasted: no, it's a Satellite. This problem is enough to make me switch back to Windows... I need quick access to my laptop
[03:20] <roasted> mmoebius, this is for home backups...
[03:20] <mmoebius> !ask | rupinder
[03:20] <roasted> mmoebius, on top of that I was just going to samba the "backup_logs" dir out so I can access it on the LAN easily.
[03:21] <roasted> mmoebius, perhaps date >> backup_logs would be the easiest? I could easily tag it to the end of the rsync script I aready have. The logger method is making my head spin a little bit... enough that if I was using this at work with 4,000 clients it may make more sense than a handful of laptops here at home that me and my fiance have.
[03:21] <roasted> noah, I'm not sure, bro. My laptop is an i5 with SSD, so it boots quickly enough for me not to be too bothered by it.
[03:22] <roasted> noah, suspend issues exist in windows, too. I'm currently fighting with an issue with a lenovo laptop.
[03:22] <mmoebius> roasted: ...even "home backup" doesn't mean it must be done carelessly ;-) Working with "the industry" by and large, I dare to say that "industry quality" or "industry strength" is usually the cheapest dirt that just works ;-(
[03:23] <roasted> mmoebius, thereby suggesting... you'd use logger? Or that you think the dead simple way is the winner?
[03:23] <noah> roasted: not like this, it's literally frozen every time I resume, windows has never done that (although it's altogether slower)
[03:23] <roasted> noah, the only thing I can think of if it was the new kernel that did this would be to boot to the older kernel within the grub menu.
[03:23] <mmoebius> roasted: You should truncate the "date" log every now and then. Consider 'logrotate' or an cronjob for that
[03:24] <noah> roasted: how does one go about booting to the old kernel? all I usually see is my windows and ubuntu partitions
[03:24] <mmoebius> roasted: I use logger where it makes sense for me to see it in the system logs. The result code ( $? ) of my nightly backup is in my system logs.
[03:24] <roasted> mmoebius, eh, that's not much of a concern. It's a text file... not a massive item that'll hog up space.
[03:24] <roasted> noah, when you boot, you'll see linux, linux recovery, linux, linux recovery, windows
[03:25] <roasted> noah, with the most recent being at the top. Choose the next kernel down that ISNT recovery mode
[03:25] <mmoebius> So, I have not to wonder why it fails if I see e.g. a network link down "external" in the minute before the backup runs ;-)
[03:25] <roasted> mmoebius, and see, that makes perfect sense.
[03:25] <noah> roasted: alright, I'll try that, thanks!
[03:25] <roasted> mmoebius, but for some laptops running at home, I'm not really liking the syslog idea
[03:25] <roasted> mmoebius, for an enterprise setup I'd be all about that. In fact, I'd probably run both in an enterprise environment.
[03:26] <roasted> mmoebius, date >> log to a place where I can see if the log ran. If it didn't, I can check syslog and see the backup PLUS any errors that may have happened that cuased the backup to fail in the first place
[03:26] <kevin> rawrrr
[03:27] <mmoebius> roasted: I guess I would'nt do that either, at least not for the 'long' output of rsync --progress  or if it wasn't convenient. Stick with what you consider suitable. I just wanted to widen your horizon a little ;-)
[03:27] <mmoebius> roasted: Oh, and befor you 'google' always consider there is a man page for almost anything (except examples)
[03:28] <roasted> mmoebius, I definitely like the logger idea, but really all I want is to know a backup ran at some point. I'd hate to have my fiance's HDD crash only to find out the silent rsync script had been failing all along.
[03:28] <mmoebius> roasted: If ypu want to check the rsync success, you should at least include rsync's exit code in the log file
[03:28] <roasted> mmoebius, oh, I know. I didn't realize what logger was at first. I thought it was some 3rd party app, not a built in utility
[03:28] <roasted> mmoebius, how do you mean?
[03:29] <mmoebius> roasted: otherwise, rsync fails but 'date' runs fine all the year round
[03:29] <roasted> mmoebius, when rsync completes, it just returns to the reguar terminal prompt
[03:29] <roasted> mmoebius, good thought......
[03:29] <redwarriors25> what command to edit /etc/hosts
[03:29] <mmoebius> roasted: There is more than one way to accomplish that
[03:30] <mmoebius> redwarriors25: nano, vi, vim, emacs, mcedit, gedit, there are may
[03:30] <mmoebius> roasted: How are the backups beeing run ? by a cron job ?
[03:30] <roasted> mmoebius, twice a day by cron
[03:31] <mmoebius> roasted: Is the rsync command in a script, or do you have the whole command in the crontab ?
[03:31] <dragonslay> how can i grab the rsync exit code?
[03:31] <roasted> mmoebius, script. crontab just calls on the path - /usr/local/bin/./backup
[03:31] <newcode> how can I see which apache modules are enabled in ubuntu?
[03:31] <mmoebius> dragonslay: in a script , $? evaluates to the exit code of any previous command
[03:31] <mmoebius> roasted: very good., wait a sec.
[03:32] <dragonslay> Nice
[03:32] <mmoebius> roasted: For any such automaticvally running script, the suggested thing is to "set -e" at the very beginning of the script.
[03:33] <mmoebius> roasted: then, any failing command that has no explicit "Do this if this has failed"-alternative terminates the script
[03:33] <somsip> newcode: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:33] <roy_m> Hi, I want to upgrade my Ubuntu-server 12.04 machine to Ubuntu 12.10 by command line. The reason why I am willing to risk a beta is because I need a kernel newer than 3.2xx. Can anyone point me in the direction of some instructions?
[03:34] <mmoebius> roasted: so, in the script, have 'set -e' ... 'rsync -foo bar' ... 'date >> /path/to/rysnc-date-log'
[03:34] <roasted> mmoebius, set -e being before the rsync command, and date after the rsync command, no?
[03:34] <mmoebius> roasted: If rsync fails with a nonztero exit code, the "date" command is not issued and there is no "all done, all good" log entry
[03:35] <mmoebius> roasted: exactly
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruption every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed? (nomodeset ixes this but then compiz is unworkable)
[03:35] <roasted> mmoebius, this? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201844/
[03:35] <mmoebius> roasted: each in its own line before the rsync command,  of course
[03:36] <mmoebius> roasted: Yes, sir.    very quick, btw.
[03:36] <trism> roy_m: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS (support in #ubuntu+1)
[03:36] <roasted> mmoebius, I don't understand set -e. Is it pre-built to determine that exit code 0 = success?
[03:36] <examancer> I tried quantal on both a Core i3 laptop that runs 12.04 well and inside Virtualbox... was too buggy to even use for me
[03:36] <mmoebius> roasted: I like the #!/bin/bash  ... that is the *correct* way, actually ;-)
[03:36] <examancer> i assume it'll be fixed, but for now no quantal for me :-(
[03:37] <roy_m> thanks trism
[03:37] <mmoebius> roasted: in a bash shell , try 'help set'
[03:37] <bmdaily>  I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have getting Ubuntu to update inside a university firewall that has port 11371 blocked. How can I change update manager to permenately use port 80?
[03:37] <trism> examancer: issues with vms for the moment since unity-2d was dropped and llvmpipe is still buggy
[03:37] <roasted> mmoebius, I got in the first of habit of using bin bash years ago when I first used rsync. Then I got spoiled with automatic rsync programs and now I'm back. There's something about terminal commands that just offer a no hassle solution at times.
[03:37] <mmoebius> roasted: or read 'man bash' somewhere around line 3500 oinwards where it explains the 'set' builtiin
[03:37] <examancer> trism: that makes ense
[03:38] <mmoebius> roasted: 'set -e' exits the script if any command inside fails
[03:38] <roasted> ah
[03:38] <roasted> so because rsync is before log... if rsync succeeds... log will succeed...
[03:38] <roasted> if rsync fails, it defaults to exit before log is hit
[03:38] <examancer> ran great on the i3 laptop except after a while / would be ready-only
[03:38] <mmoebius> roasted: And that is quite a critical feature you want in like every script that runs (semi-) automatically
[03:39] <roasted> mmoebius, uh, yeah, to say the least. I'll be adding this in my scripts asap... once I test here of course :P
[03:39] <roasted> I want to see it fail first
[03:39] <examancer> don't know if was an issue with the SSD or what, but 12.04 runs flawless on it
[03:39] <mmoebius> roasted: because, things can get really funny if some stuff runs before other stuff has run.
[03:39] <roasted> mmoebius, how would set -e make a difference of things running in order? It's a bash script, it'll run commands through lines sequentially regardless. no?
[03:40] <mmoebius> roasted: Consider loasdding the *correct* backup tape in a tape loader *before* making the backup   or something of that magnitude
[03:40] <mdkess> Esoteric question: In nautilus, is there any way to find the next result for a query if I start typing a file name?
[03:40] <jose_712> HOLA
[03:40] <dragonslay> how to suppress rsync messages no being sent to my local mailbox.. (i've set MAILTO=$$$ in my crontab)
[03:40] <mmoebius> roasted: The order is not affected. But it is like having    || exit $?    appended to each command
[03:41] <mmoebius> roasted: so the rest of the script is not executed after the command that returned the non-zero exit code
[03:41] <mmoebius> roasted: And that'
[03:41] <mmoebius> s the differnece
[03:42] <dragonslay> mmoebius,  how to suppress rsync output not being sent to my local mailbox.. (i've set MAILTO=foo in my crontab)
[03:42] <mmoebius> dragonslay: try MAILTO=""
[03:43] <mmoebius> dragonslay: that is what works for me (using gentoo)
[03:43] <examancer> mdkess: up/down work for me
[03:44] <dragonslay> mmoebius, sometimes i do like to get messages thro' mail.. can i do that from script?
[03:44] <examancer> only lets you scroll through matching results
[03:44] <roasted> mmoebius, bahahah, that's perfect.
[03:44] <roasted> mmoebius, just did a test drive. It acted as I expected.
[03:44] <roasted> mmoebius, when it failed, no log was populated. When succeeded, log populated. Win.
[03:44] <mmoebius> roasted: I am glad to hear that ;-)
[03:44] <roasted> mmoebius, this makes my silent backups give me a little more peace of mind.
[03:45] <mmoebius> dragonslay: There is a tool called 'mail'
[03:45] <mmoebius> dragonslay: you should be able to youse that to mail all of its standard input to whomwever you want.
[03:45] <roasted> mmoebius, random thought - I wonder if I can have the log exist on the server. date >> jason@192.168.1.15:/media/backup/logs
[03:46] <roasted> no such file or dir. bummer.
[03:46] <mmoebius> roasted: If you can ssh to the server, prefferably with aoutmatic login through ssh keys, that is most doable
[03:46] <Fa1c0n> Hello
[03:46] <roasted> mmoebius, already doing that with sshkeys....
[03:47] <mmoebius> roasted: then, use a nasty one, either 'date | ssh user@machine tee -a /path/to/log-file' if the *client machine time* should be logged
[03:48] <mmoebius> roasted: or a simple 'ssh user@machine date >> /path/to/log-file' if it is sufficient or desidred to log the server's time
[03:49] <roasted> mmoebius, even that is failing tho, no such file or dir
[03:50] <Jak_Atackka> Help! My wireless internet is having horrible connection issues!
[03:50] <mmoebius> roasted: hm, try by hand first. su to the user running the backup, if applicable.   ssh onto the server. issue the 'date >> /path/to/log-file command'
[03:51] <mmoebius> Jak_Atackka: like with what symptoms ?
[03:52] <Jak_Atackka> mmoebius: When it works, it throttles itself to 30kb/s. However, it works for at most ten seconds at a time, before completely dropping (to 0b/s) for three to four minutes
[03:52] <roasted> mmoebius, the only way I think this could work is breaking up that command into two sections. like ssh user@server........................... date >> pathtolog
[03:52] <mmoebius> Jak_Atackka: can you try wired ? If that works, the wireless reception simply isn't good. Depending on the zillion parameters in wireless connections, I consider that tough luck.
[03:53] <Jak_Atackka> mmoebius: No, wired isn't an option
[03:53] <roasted> Jak_Atackka, what wireless card are you running?
[03:53] <mmoebius> roasted: ssh user@server remote-command    is expected to execute 'remote-command' *on the server*
[03:53] <Jak_Atackka> A Rosewill run, using the Realtek RTL8188CE chipset
[03:53] <Jak_Atackka> I have the latest driver
[03:53] <mmoebius> roasted: So, if that'S not working, I wonder how rsync gets its data copied
[03:54] <roasted> mmoebius, through the rsync command itself.
[03:54] <roasted> rsync -az /home/fred fred@192.168.1.10:/media/backup/fred
[03:54] <roasted> I understand rsync assumes you're using ssh by default (or something like that) which is what makes it seemless. If you have the sshkeys generated, it's a solid win.
[03:55] <roasted> seamless? yeah that
[03:55] <mmoebius> roasted: have you tried ssh'ing into the remote machine and issuing the 'date >> log' coimmand yourself ?
[03:55] <noah> is roasted still here?
[03:55] <roasted> mmoebius, yes, works fine on server
[03:55] <roasted> noah, hi
[03:55] <mmoebius> roasted: If that works, ssh user@server 'date >> log'  should work
[03:55] <noah> roasted: so it's not the kernel, but I think I may have a clue as to what it is
[03:55] <roasted> mmoebius, I assume the ' is important?
[03:55] <roasted> noah, what's that?
[03:55] <mmoebius> roasted: did ou put the command in ""  ?
[03:56] <roasted> no...
[03:56] <roasted> now wait, ' or "
[03:56] <noah> roasted:when I hover around my frozen screen I find a textbox roughly where the login one is, and can put in my password and get the little loading circle... still frozen of course, but that text box dissappears
[03:56] <mmoebius> roasted: because otherwise , the redirection is executed locally and the output of 'date' from the server is redirected to a file on *your* machine ... which gives the file/path not found error
[03:56] <roasted> mmoebius, got it
[03:57] <noah> roasted: and by text box I mean it changes from mouse to the line that indicates you can click and put in text
[03:57] <roasted> mmoebius, ssh jason@192.168.1.10 'date >> /media/backup/log'
[03:57] <mmoebius> roasted: You're a quick learner ;-)
[03:57] <mmoebius> roasted: That last command you gave is logging the server time.
[03:57] <roasted> mmoebius, well, it helps that I've used linux for years. But linux is "that" big it's easy to miss certain things along the way.
[03:57] <FRANK_666> HOLA
[03:57] <mmoebius> roasted: Just you know
[03:58] <mmoebius> !spanish | FRANK_666
[03:58] <roasted> mmoebius, speaking of server time, I've had an exceptionally horrid time with my server keeping accurate time. I ended up croning "ntpdate" once a day.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Attackka:wep or wpa security?
[03:58] <Jak_Atackka> WPA
[03:58] <FRANK_666> JE
[03:58] <mmoebius> roasted: Isn't using the ntp daemon a better option ?
[03:58] <roasted> mmoebius, I don't know how it happens, but I run owncloud on my server... and my owncloud client on my laptop requires it be within 10 seconds of accurate with ntp to function.
[03:58] <roasted> mmoebius, it seems like every few days owncloud is acting up due to the time again.
[03:58] <mmoebius> roasted: I mean, with ubuntu 12.04 there is like openntpd installed by default. Sweet
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Attackka:theres a known bug with some cards on wpa security, can you try wep just to test connection speeds
[03:59] <mmoebius> roasted: And you neeed an ntp server physically close to you.
[03:59] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Okay, will do
[03:59] <mmoebius> mmoebius: An upstram ntp server, that is
[03:59] <roasted> mmoebius, if you have a solution, I'm all ears. Between a wedding a month away and a home renovation that needs done before then I haven't really given much of a crap to find a proper solution, but rather one that *just works* for now.
[03:59] <roasted> mmoebius, since ntpdate works @ terminal, it felt natural to cron it for the time being. :P
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:would also be interesting to tail -f /var/log/syslog to see whats happening
[04:00] <roasted> mmoebius, I was just using ntp.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <ZzBuntu> Anyone seen any ways to totally replace empathy with pidgin?I want to use pidgin with the new online accounts feature.
[04:00] <mmoebius> roasted: You can optimize theios alittle if you look who has got an ntp server closer to you. If like your ISP has one, that would be best.
[04:01] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: I see nothing out of the ordinary there
[04:01] <mmoebius> roasted: try http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome and pick any stratum 2 server ;-)
[04:01] <roasted> mmoebius, so what exactly would I do when I have the url of my isp's ntp server? Do I change it in one of the configs somewhere?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka: are you precise 12.04.1?
[04:01] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Yes
[04:02] <roasted> mmoebius, how is strat 2 different?
[04:02] <dragonslay> mmoebius, "if ( $? != 0) then" would this work? i don't know how to verify this
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:what wireless card brand?
[04:02] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Rosewill. The chipset is a Realtek RTL8188CE
[04:02] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: I already have the latest driver
[04:02] <mmoebius> roasted: stratum 2 is for "public use" (to put it in very short letters)
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:did you upgrade precise or clean installed?
[04:03] <mmoebius> roasted: also, stratum 2 is one hop away from a "reference source" like an atomic clock
[04:03] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Clean install
[04:03] <mmoebius> roasted: so, quite precise, too
[04:03] <mmoebius> dragonslay: You can verify all this on the command line
[04:03] <roasted> mmoebius, good deal. with the url now, what should I do?
[04:03] <mmoebius> dragonslay: make a script.
[04:03] <noah> So any ideas what that could be, maybe the update deleted something important to resume login?
[04:04] <rickb> anyone have an idea how to pipe the libnotify output to festival? :)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:not far away from router?
[04:05] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Nope. I was using Windows at first (until it deleted its own bootloader after a Service Pack upgrade), and it had no problems whatsoever
[04:05] <mmoebius> dragonslay: start with the line 'true'  ... see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201889/
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:did you try the WEP?
[04:05] <farhan> hi
[04:06] <mmoebius> dragonslay: then exchange 'true' for 'false' and try agasin
[04:06] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Not yet. I'll give it a try
[04:06] <mmoebius> roasted: You'll need to install and/or configure an ntp server.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Jak_Atackka:if its not that bug, im not sure neither mate
[04:06] <roasted> mmoebius, er. but why? I just want my server to keep accurate time. I've never had another Ubuntu system that had trouble with that.
[04:06] <Jak_Atackka> lotuspsychje: Alright. I'll be back soon (I hope)
[04:07] <mmoebius> roasted: The ntp "server" keeps the local system time and can relay that time to any client
[04:08] <mmoebius> roasted: because the ntp "server" maintains a PLL style mechanism, it maintains a lot smoother and preciser time than running "ntpdate" every now and then
[04:08] <dragonslay> mmoebius, syntax mistake.. i used ( for [   ... :)
[04:08] <mmoebius> roasted: try e.g. 'openntpd'
[04:10] <jk_> roasted, the ntp server is actually a client daemon rather than a conventional server and its configuration file is /etc/ntp.conf which contains at least one line "server <url>" where <url> is the address of the server you want to sync from.
[04:10] <doc969> Hi guys, I just bought a custom laptop with the  NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M graphics card. I didn't realize there were issues with ubuntu and nvidia until today. Will I have issues when I install Ubuntu?
[04:10] <roasted> jk_, oh.
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> doc969:did you install nvidia-current?
[04:10] <roasted> well that I didn't expect :P
[04:10] <mmoebius> roasted: if your system on its own has a dramatic, but precise drift like a second per day, you can correct that with 'adjtimex' , see e.g. http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Using_adjtimex.html
[04:11] <mmoebius> roasted: adjtimex is like adjusting the system oscillator ;-)
[04:11] <roasted> mmoebius, but ther eagain, why not just re-sync ntpdate?
[04:11] <DyegoJam> hola
[04:12] <mmoebius> roasted: That makes a 'step'  in time earch time it's running and it cannot realy compensate for the uplink delay/spread/jitter in time packet transmission
[04:12] <mmoebius> roasted: openntpd can ;-)
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> doc969:try a clean install precise 12.04.1 and see for yourself, normally nvidia got better support then ati
[04:13] <mmoebius> roasted: plus, using more than one source it can average out the sources, discard "wrong" upstream clocks and is far advanced.
[04:13] <doc969> lotus: ok thank you.
[04:13] <mmoebius> roasted: I think when there is more than a single machine somewhere , running an ntpd is usually a good idea
[04:14] <roasted> mmoebius, looking into openntpd now
[04:14] <daemongpl> How do you reset the display?
[04:15] <mmoebius> daemongpl: console ?  'reset'  Otherwise, you'd need to explain a little what you want done
[04:15] <Wallalebi> poignant animation on real-time computation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4gTV4r0zRs&hd=1
[04:15] <daemongpl> tty 7 only shows mouse pointer.. need to reset DISPLAY 0.. dont know the command
[04:15] <DyegoJam> Does you knock some app for English students?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Wallalebi:this is an ubuntu support channel mate, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <noah> So does anybody have any idea as to why my screen freezes after the software update?
[04:17] <WeThePeople> dyegojam, can you explain yourself alittle better?
[04:18] <roasted> mmoebius, I assume there's nothing to do with openntpd then. The config file already has 4 of debians NTP servers loaded.
[04:18] <roasted> mmoebius, I'm curious if I nix the ntp cron thing I had going on and run openntpd if it'll keep the time on my server in sync
[04:18] <noobie25> can someone help me?  after upgrading to "ubuntu 12.04", i can't seem to connect to my wireless router.  Keeps trying to authenticate me "authentication required by wireless network".  Sometimes after restarting the computer wireless works, but after 5-10 minutes, loops back for me to authenticate to wireless server and it can never authenticate.
[04:18] <mmoebius> roasted: There is no *need* to do something aboiut it, but you could pic servers *physically close* to your location for optimal results
[04:19] <WeThePeople> noobie25, do you have to authenticate?
[04:19] <mmoebius> roasted: It just doesn't make sense to beam a time packet 'round the globe , because there is nothing as boriung as the newspaper from yesterday , if you may follow
[04:19] <noobie25> WeThePeople:  yes, its using wpa2
[04:20] <roasted> mmoebius, so openntpd works out of the box as is, but can be further fine tuned, is what you're saying
[04:20] <mmoebius> roasted: yep
[04:20] <roasted> (I apologize - I'm running on my 5th night of 4 hrs of sleep - tonight is looking to be the same)
[04:20] <mmoebius> roasted: Also, don't confuse the ntpd time server by running "ntpdate" with cron.
[04:20] <WeThePeople> noobie25, does turning auth off work?
[04:20] <daemongpl> !lynx
[04:20] <roasted> mmoebius, oops :P
[04:21] <roasted> mmoebius, that's what I been doing for the last few weeks. Hey! It worked! I've had 0 issues.
[04:21] <roasted> mmoebius, also, Is this of any concern? http://pastebin.com/MAARRcGJ
[04:21] <daemongpl> hooray text browser maybe i can search google for the command i need...
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> daemongpl:tryed links2 yet?
[04:21] <roasted> "does not listen by default"
[04:21] <WeThePeople> noobie25, i assume a eth0
[04:21] <mmoebius> roasted: And take into account that to start syncronizing, the time on your machine must be +- 10 minutes (or so) in sync with the upstream time; (runing ntpdate at boot is a good idea)
[04:21] <roasted> mmoebius, at boot? this server is only rebooted when the power goes out. :/
[04:22] <WeThePeople> daemongpl, maybe xrandr
[04:22] <mmoebius> roasted: and take not that it may take ntpd quite some time (like hours) to correct even minimal differences like 20 seconds, but after that it sould keep the time failry tight to the "real" time
[04:22] <WeThePeople> type xrandr -h
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | daemongpl
[04:22] <noobie25> WeThePeople: i can't test to see if it will work without auth off.  i dont have access to the router.  HOwever, i can say that I do connect sometimes after a restart, but then it prompts me to autheniticate after a few minutes.
[04:23] <mmoebius> roasted: Yes that is the most awkward moment. At boot, your server has its CMOS time. CMOS time is not neededly related to system time.
[04:23] <noobie25> WeThePeople:   additionally, all my other devices work fine.  other laptop, ipad.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> noobie25:on what wireless card brand?
[04:23] <roasted> mmoebius, when you reference ntpd, do you mean openntpd?
[04:23] <mmoebius> roasted: before rebooting, set the hardware clock with 'hwclock --systohc'
[04:23] <noah> roasted: do you have any other ideas... I can't find any references on google. I posted a bug on launchpad but nothing has come of it.
[04:24] <WeThePeople> noobie25, type lshw
[04:24] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:   it is a asus N13 wireless usb
[04:24] <mmoebius> roasted: ahem, yes. ntpd == openntpd in my lingo
[04:24] <daemongpl> lotuspsychje, i cant get to X windows... trying to reset DISPLAY
[04:24] <roasted> noah, not offhand :( like I said that issue isnt one that was high on my to do list since it powers up nearly as quickly as it resumes
[04:24] <WeThePeople> noobie, type lshw and copy &paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <mmoebius> roasted: Thus, after you reboot, your clock is set from a (fairly accurate) CMOS clock
[04:24] <roasted> mmoebius, just making sure. my semi-coma state of mind wasn't positive. :P
[04:25] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:   "lsusb" output:   Bus 004 Device 002: ID 047d:102a ASUSTek Comptuer, Inc.
[04:25] <noah> roasted: are there any work arounds?I can get into the alt f2 terminal
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> daemongpl:tryed 'nomodeset' to grub?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> noobie25:you cant try WEP security?
[04:25] <roasted> noah, for... what exactly? waking up your laptop from suspend?
[04:25] <mmoebius> roasted: Don't mind. The issue is real. There is an "ntpd" from some other source. The "reference implementation" ... big, bloated, slow, ugly, but it works, too
[04:26] <mdkess> examancer, hey! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks (and pardon for the delay)!
[04:26] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:  i'm on call right now to get access to the router.  i'll try wep next.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> noobie25:some cards dont like WPA on ubuntu...wep is worth a try just to test
[04:26] <mmoebius> roasted: got to go to bed. (it's 6:26 in the morning ;-) ) Have fun and keep up the good work ;-)
[04:26] <noah> roasted: no, getting it to unfreeze, maybe restart the display or something... idk. Seems like there's something keeping the login screen from popping up
[04:27] <mmoebius> Bye everybody.
[04:27] <roasted> mmoebius, appreciate it!
[04:27] <roasted> take care
[04:27] <dragonslay> bye, ty mmoebius
[04:27] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:   sure if you think it will resolve.  however, it was working fine in a previous ubuntu installation.   do you think there is a good chance it will work?
[04:27] <roasted> noah, I'm not too sure offhand... not unless you can reboot whatever service is freezing up... but I'm not sure which one that would be.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> noobie25:im not sure mate it all depends whats really happening, did you check /var/log/syslog for strange warnings?
[04:29] <noah> roasted: damn. Alright, I guess I'll see if anyone responds to the bug... if not it's back to windows :(
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> noah:no mate stay on ubuntu, theres always a solution
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> too late
[04:31] <roasted> lotuspsychje, he'll be back. ;)
[04:32] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:   i checked the syslog now.  i'm getting something weird.  output:  Activation(wlan2) Stage 2 of 5 complete.  <warn> Activiation(wlan2/wireless) association took too long.  <warn> Action (wlan2) asking for newsecrets.  <warn> Couldn't disconnect supplicant interface:  This interface is not connected.
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> roasted:after the windows system freezes too lol
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> noobie25: its worth a try on WEP mate just to test...i know some cards dont like wpa and ubuntu
[04:33] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:   sure...i'm on call right now, so i can try that
[04:33] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:  will disconnect for a few mindstorm
[04:33] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:  i mean a few minutes
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[04:35] <Elesa> Hi, Ubuntu 12.04 does not shutdown. It gets stuck at a black screen where only some squares with dots flash, but then they freeze at some point and I have to turn off my laptop by holding my power button.
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:did you take a look at /var/log/syslog for shutdown ?
[04:37] <Elesa> What should I look for?
[04:38] <dragonslay> Elesa: ctrl+f "shutdown"
[04:38] <Elesa> Nope, nothing. =/
[04:39] <dragonslay> Elesa: try shutting down from terminal
[04:40] <Elesa> Oh.. I'll have to try that later because I'm downloading something right now. But you mean terminal as in GNOME Terminal, or a tty?
[04:41] <Bearly230> Hello all, I have an issue with the ATI drivers for Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. Where I get a flicker along the top of the monitor aprox the address line in chrome. I'm having the same issue with the recomended driver, updated driver, as well as the amd propriatory ones. Any suggestions?
[04:42] <dragonslay> Elesa: both should work..  just type in "sudo halt"
[04:42] <Elesa> I thought it was sudo shutdown 0? Thanks anyways, I'll try later!
[04:46] <cortexA9> hello
[04:47] <Bearly230> Hello all, I have an issue with the ATI drivers for Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. Where I get a flicker along the top of the monitor aprox the address line in chrome. I'm having the same issue with the recomended driver, updated driver, as well as the amd propriatory ones. Any suggestions?
[04:48] <cortexA9> i have a broadcom bcm4313 and if i update the kernel i can't use wifi.
[04:49] <hylian> i'm looking for an app to let me shutdown the machine from inside of openbox. someone gave me a command, but it doesn't shut down my laptop properly. i think it was sudo shutdown now, or something like that. I am using qshutdown, but that doesn't like to behave either..??
[04:50] <xwalk_> hylian: Are you looking for something like "sudo poweroff"?
[04:51] <hylian> xwalk_: i don't mind if it is a command, but gksu shutdown didn't shutdown my machine right, i had to force it to shutdown with the power button
[04:51] <aeon-ltd> hylian: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:52] <hylian> aeon-ltd: that command makes my laptop hang. unless you think the -h tag will have a better affect...
[04:53] <hylian> aeon-ltd: i'll try it. gotta get off to make the attempt, brb.
[04:54] <somsip> hylian: a command to try is sudo halt -p. Mine used to hang with sudo shutdown -h now too
[04:57] <Bearly230> Hello all, I have an issue with the ATI drivers for Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. Where I get a flicker along the top of the monitor aprox the address line in chrome. I'm having the same issue with the recomended driver, updated driver, as well as the amd propriatory ones. Any suggestions?
[04:57] <hylian> aeon-ltd: that did the trick, thanks!
[04:59] <cortexA9> is it possible to install ubuntu on android in chroot ?
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> hylian: you're welcome
[05:00] <hylian> Bearly230: sorry, i never personally came across this error. Out of curiosity, do you get the same error with different resolutions?
[05:01] <Bearly230> hylian: yes
[05:02] <hylian> Bearly230: wish i had more experience with these issues
[05:02] <Bearly230> hyliam: I suspect part of it is the card is to new. It's an ATI HD 7850 2gb card.
[05:02] <howardgrigg> hi guys - for some reason my ssh server won't start, I'm not sure how to debug it
[05:02] <howardgrigg> i can run terminal commands through the console in Webmin
[05:03] <hylian> Bearly230: it could be. This is probably a dumb question, but have you gotten the latest drivers directly from amd for this card?
[05:03] <howardgrigg> but the actual server isn't running and won't start
[05:03] <Bearly230> Hylian: Yes same thing.
[05:05] <cortexA9> how to join in this community ?
[05:05] <dell> hello
[05:05] <dell> I have a question:
[05:06] <hylian> Bearly230: I am afraid you confirmed your own diagnosis, it seems there have been people troubleshooting similar issues... did the card act this way before you installed the driver? (ohh, and here's a askubuntu article on it, hopefully someone will come wup with a fix... http://askubuntu.com/questions/162315/driver-issues-on-newly-assembled-pc-with-hd7850-in-ubuntu-12-04)
[05:06] <dell> How to install IDL on Ubuntu
[05:06] <hylian> dell: what is idl?
[05:07] <dell> A soft for caculate
[05:07] <Bearly230> hylian: It's fine until I install any of the ati drivers. But I don't get the 3d aspect of the card.
[05:07] <dell> NASA use it
[05:07] <dell> hylian:like matlab
[05:08] <hylian> Bearly230: well atleast that tells you where the culprit lies. I never have the money for new hardware, so i am always in luck there. sorry i couldnt be more helpful... :)
[05:08] <cortexA9> i don't have sound in my virtual machine.
[05:08] <Bearly230> hylian: I appreciate the attempt.
[05:10] <hylian> dell: I found this article on how to install IDL. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389304
[05:10] <hylian> cortexA9: are you using virtualbox?
[05:10] <cortexA9> no
[05:10] <cortexA9> vmware
[05:12] <hylian> cortexA9: ohh. I don't know that software at all. I am wondering though if there is a counterpart to virtualbox's guest extensions for vmware. that usually solves issues for me in vbox.
[05:12] <dell> hylian:thanks for your help. I have a look
[05:12] <cortexA9> i have a message error
[05:12] <cortexA9> sound disconnected
[05:13] <cortexA9> at startup
[05:13] <cortexA9> related on ID..
[05:13] <dell> hylian:but It's about "How to compile and execute IDL program???"
[05:13] <hylian> cortexA9: wish i could help you. I installed vbox about 8 years ago, and it ran so well for what i need, i never looked elsewhere.
[05:14] <dell> hylian:can you speak Chinese
[05:15] <hylian> dell: right, according to that article, idl is not in the repositories. You need to download and compile it. Any software not available in .deb package format needs to be downloaded, and most of that needs to be compiled.
[05:15] <hylian> dell: sorry, no.
[05:15] <hylian> !chinese | dell
[05:16] <cortexA9> hylian, i try virtualbox
[05:16] <c2tarun> I have a partition, I used to install other distros on it for testing. Now I want to use that partition for storing some files. I formatted the partition using gparted. But I am not able to copy/move/create any folder in that partition without sudo. Why so? and how can I fix this?
[05:16] <cortexA9> thanks
[05:17] <hylian> cortexA9: sorry, i wish i could help you in vmware. i know it's an excellent virtualization platform. I just have no experience with it.
[05:17] <cortexA9> hylian, me too
[05:18] <hylian> c2tarun: what file format is it, ext4?
[05:18] <noah> roasted: you still here, I've narrowed it down to this-- it's the OpenGL screensaver failing when I go into lock... the whole thing works fine on ubuntu classic 2d. Because I can still find the login textbox somewhere(although it doesn't work) it must be under there somewhere in openGl
[05:18] <dragonslay> c2tarun: change the ownership to your name
[05:18] <c2tarun> hylian: yes
[05:18] <c2tarun> hylian: how?
[05:18] <c2tarun> sorry dragonslay^^
[05:18] <dragonslay> c2tarun: you don't understand?
[05:18] <hylian> c2tarun: dragonslay was the one that told you to change the ownership, not me.
[05:19] <c2tarun> hylian: sorry about that :(
[05:19] <c2tarun> dragonslay: how to change the ownership?
[05:20] <noah> Does anyone have any idea as to why lock screen would freeze in OpenGl gnome but not in Ubuntu Classic 2d. This started happening right after a software update
[05:20] <dragonslay> c2tarun: chown command will do that for you
[05:20] <hylian> noah: that is strange. you are using regular gnome 3? or the classical mode?
[05:20] <c2tarun> dragonslay: thanks :) one last help? drive gets mounted to /media/UUIDNo. so I should change the ownership of this UUIDNo. folder or I should set a permanent mount point and change its ownership
[05:21] <dragonslay> chown -R $USER:$USER path/to/partition
[05:21] <noah> Regular gnome 3 with Cairo dock, open gl, and effects enabled
[05:22] <dragonslay> c2tarun: i think just changing the ownership using current uuid will work fine
[05:22] <redwarriors26> i cant install cups for printer
[05:22] <c2tarun> dragonslay: thanks
[05:22] <redwarriors26> im using ubuntu 9.10
[05:23] <noah> hylian:Regular gnome 3 with Cairo dock, open gl, and effects enabled
[05:23] <redwarriors26> error E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:24] <hylian> noah: i don't know. my assumption would be that the difference might be that uninty 2d isn't using ccsm (compiz), and that for some reason that is causing the lack of said error. Going to gnome 3 with all the opengl on would, i belief, run compiz. This is just an educated guess though.
[05:24] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | redwarriors26
[05:25] <noobie25> lotuspsychje:  hi, i was able to disable all security on the router.  however, ubuntu seems to just try and scan, but never connects.
[05:25] <noah> hylian: any idea as to why compiz is causing this? Everything worked perfectly before I used the update manager
[05:26] <cortexA9> can i install kde desktop on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:26] <Noobuntu> cortexA9, sure
[05:26] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop package cortexA9
[05:27] <hylian> noah: unfortunately, I am the anti pretty. i am the guy that uses minimalistic windows managers like openbox. I am not at all knowledgeable about that. that's why i said it was a guess. I just don't use any of that stuff.
[05:27] <cortexA9> thanks
[05:27] <bazhang> noah, try asking in #compiz
[05:28] <hylian> bazhang: thanks for helping noah.
[05:28] <noah> bazhang: thanks. What's the irc command? just join #compiz?
[05:28] <noah> join #compiz
[05:28] <bazhang> noah, /join #compiz
[05:28] <cortexA9> anyone have experience with ubuntu server ?
[05:28] <codescience> anyone here running virtual servers using virtualbox?
[05:29] <hylian> cortexA9: sorry, no.
[05:29] <bazhang> cortexA9, whats the question
[05:29] <cortexA9> no just for question :)
[05:29] <cortexA9> codescience, what do you mean ?
[05:30] <cortexA9> i try ubuntu on virtualbox right now
[05:30] <codescience> i have virtualbox running all my servers. curious is anyone else is doing the same.
[05:30] <codescience> ?
[05:30] <cortexA9> oh nice
[05:31] <cortexA9> you have ubuntu server ?
[05:31] <bazhang> cortexA9, did you have a support question related to that? or just wish to chit chat
[05:32] <dragonslay> codescience: i do
[05:32] <codescience> not running ubuntu server, no.
[05:32] <codescience> dragonslay: what type of servers are you running?
[05:32] <cortexA9> bazhang, no only curious.
[05:32] <soulisson> Hi, if two processes write to the same named pipe is there a risk of data being intermingled ?
[05:32] <dragonslay> codescience: ubuntu server - httpd
[05:33] <codescience> cool.
[05:33] <dragonslay> codescience: yourself?
[05:33] <codescience> i have a couple of sql servers going and also an ftp server, file server and a web server.
[05:34] <Noobuntu> soulisson, how is that question specific to ubuntu?
[05:34] <dragonslay> codescience: and the o/s?
[05:34] <bazhang> !ot | codescience dragonslay
[05:35] <codescience> all sit on debian base.
[05:35] <dragonslay> fair enough, bazhang  :)
[05:35] <codescience> heading to OT.
[05:36] <codescience> at least it's discussion. there's no one else talking.
[05:36] <cortexA9> hey ubuntu is not only desktop
[05:36] <cortexA9> lol
[05:36] <soulisson> Noobuntu, you're right not related to Ubuntu
[05:36] <codescience> cortexA9: what you mean?
[05:36] <cortexA9> yes
[05:37] <cortexA9> this channel is for ubuntu server too
[05:37] <cortexA9> why ot ?
[05:37] <bazhang> cortexA9, this is NOT for chit chat
[05:37] <cortexA9> ok
[05:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server for support as well
[05:38] <Noobuntu> cortexA9, running ftp servers, sql servers and stuff virtualbox and showing off here just because ur OS is ubuntu does not qualify
[05:39] <cortexA9> yes i know
[05:39] <Noobuntu> sorry if I sounded harsh there but you were not getting the hint :)
[05:39] <howardgrigg> when transmission downloads a file it puts it in /downloads. If I want to manually move it to a different folder I have to change the permissions on the file before I can move it
[05:40] <howardgrigg> how can I fix that so i don't need to modify it each time?
[05:40] <bazhang> howardgrigg, to what folder, where
[05:41] <howardgrigg> i just want to move it to a movies folder
[05:41] <Noobuntu> howardgrigg, go to preferences and change the folder you want to download it to
[05:41]  * hylian waves farewell
[05:42] <Noobuntu> edit - > preferences -> downloadiing tab
[05:42] <Noobuntu> downloading*
[05:42] <howardgrigg> oh nah i want different things in different folders
[05:42] <somsip> howardgrigg: you can keep incomplete torrents in one folder, and completed downloads in another. But if you want more fine control, you have to move them around yourself
[05:42] <dragonslay> howardgrigg: i think transmission is not smart enough for that...
[05:43] <howardgrigg> oh sorry yea I don't mind moving them but currently I have to modify the ownership of the files each time I want to move it
[05:43] <howardgrigg> id prefer not having to do that
[05:43] <somsip> howardgrigg: what user does transmission run under?
[05:44] <howardgrigg> debian-transmission
[05:44] <bazhang> howardgrigg, it's your home folder, you don't need to change anything
[05:44] <howardgrigg> bazhang, its not my home folder - it's a different drive
[05:44] <bazhang> howardgrigg, you mean ubuntu I'd guess, not debian
[05:44] <howardgrigg> nope it's debian - I just went with the defaults
[05:45] <howardgrigg> I'm running ubuntu-server
[05:45] <bazhang> howardgrigg, and ubuntu support comes into this how?
[05:45] <cortexA9> howardgrigg, join #ubuntu-server
[05:45] <somsip> howardgrigg: chaneg the group ownership of the downloads folder and set the sticky bit?
[05:46] <howardgrigg> somsip, I'll try that thanks
[05:46] <bazhang> cortexA9, thats not necessary
[05:46] <somsip> howardgrigg: np. Might not be the best solution, but it's a workaround
[05:48] <altin> anyone knows any .jnt viewer for ubuntu ?
[05:49] <bazhang> altin, is that a comic format or what
[05:49] <altin> winblows journal !
[05:49] <altin> bazhang:
[05:53] <cortexA9> why if i go in browser network i can't open my windows network ?
[05:55] <bookpage> Hi there, I was wondering how I can find out if my ubuntu kernel has support for pv_ops?
[05:56] <cortexA9> "failed to retrieve share list from server"
[05:56] <cortexA9> ?
[05:56] <blackshirt> what is pv_ops bookpage ?
[05:56] <bookpage> it's paravirt_ops
[05:57] <bookpage> it's for xen virtualisation I believe
[05:58] <blackshirt> maybe if on your kernel config CONFIG_PARAVIRT was set with yes, you should feel good, your kernel support
[05:58] <tsimpson> bookpage: "grep PARAVIRT /boot/config-$(uname -r)" should give you a hint
[06:01] <bookpage> tsimpson: okay cool, it seems like PARAVIRT and XEN are both set to y. Thankyou
[06:02] <cortexA9> ok maybe i resolve. changed smb.conf
[06:02] <cortexA9> no. unable to mount location.
[06:03] <cortexA9> can't see my windows client.
[06:03] <cortexA9> from vbox
[06:03] <blackshirt> cortexA9, what you need ?
[06:03] <cortexA9> some issue with samba i think.
[06:04] <cortexA9> i changed workgroup
[06:04] <cortexA9> in the smb.conf
[06:04] <cortexA9> but doesn't work
[06:04] <blackshirt> you should restart your samba server
[06:04] <blackshirt> to reload
[06:04] <cortexA9> yes i restart all ubuntu.
[06:04] <cortexA9> restarted
[06:05] <cortexA9> in network i have windows network
[06:08] <fidel> ahoi
[06:09] <cortexA9> what should i choose in vbox NAT or bridge ?
[06:09] <cortexA9> i have nat now.
[06:09] <Jordan_U> cortexA9: I would recommend NAT, because to me it seems conceptually simpler.
[06:12] <cortexA9> anyone know the difference between NAT and bridge ?
[06:13] <fidel> cortexA9: this isnt an ubuntu question - its a network thing
[06:13] <cortexA9> sorry
[06:13] <fidel> in one case (bridged) you would configure the virtual host as any other host in your local network
[06:13] <vangog> Братишка спасибо, я под рутом))))
[06:13] <vangog> mva))
[06:13] <vangog> братишка thanks)
[06:14] <cortexA9> thanks fidel
[06:14] <fidel> !en | vangog
[06:14] <jumbo> good morning :)
[06:14] <cortexA9> hello
[06:14] <fidel> cortexA9: in case you need a longer explanaition - consider reading the describption offered by your vm-solution ;)
[06:14] <vangog> mount / -o remount,rw помогло!
[06:15] <jumbo> it's been soo long since i've been to IRC
[06:15] <jumbo> i am new to ubuntu
[06:15] <jumbo> and i find this Xchat
[06:16] <Geoffrey2> hey everyone....I just recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop...it's dual booting with Windows 7, and the clock is miles off.....I tried using ntpdate as the docs suggested, but I keep getting an error message that the ntp socket is in use.....
[06:17] <cortexA9> mmm with bridge doesn't work too.
[06:18] <xcyb0rg> I need help
[06:18] <xcyb0rg> Has anyone else been getting a error message you qmail
[06:19] <xcyb0rg> There seems to be a bug, I did as much research as I could tried every fix I could and no luck.
[06:19] <xcyb0rg> I can't update or install anything because the mailing service is down
[06:19] <cortexA9> xcyb0rg, is a ubuntu question ?
[06:20] <xcyb0rg> Yes
[06:20] <xcyb0rg> I am using ubuntu
[06:20] <fidel> !details > xcyb0rg
[06:21] <xcyb0rg> fidel https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netqmail/+bug/1013552
[06:22] <AminosAmigos> hello i am trying to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver. I have two options one with "post-release updates" the other without what's the difference?
[06:24] <CQ> when will this be available in the archives: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/15.0.1+build1-0ubuntu1/+build/3780522 ? I have a freezing bug that this fixes...
[06:26] <CQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1049428 doesn't have any info...
[06:27] <xcyb0rg> is everyone else having trouble with qmail
[06:27] <xcyb0rg> I am looking at this page and I see other users are having the same problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netqmail
[06:28] <fidel> xcyb0rg: i doubt most users inhere do use qmail - you might have more luck in the server channels
[06:29] <CQ> or on #qmail ?
[06:34] <xcyb0rg> I am still searching for answers in different channels
[06:34] <MK`> Is there any place/archive to download older Ubuntu alpha/beta builds?
[06:35] <xcyb0rg> google
[06:35] <CQ> mk' out of curiosity: why would you want to?
[06:35] <fidel> CQ: i was just going to ask the same ;)
[06:36] <CQ> else he cound just grad bedian experimental, that's permanent alpha ; )
[06:36] <CQ> grab debian ...
[06:37] <CQ> could....
[06:37] <cortexA9> MK`: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[06:37] <CQ> sorry, need to wake up
[06:37] <MK`> This is the only channel where people who are unable to answer my questions consistently question my motives :P In any event, I assume I could build it from a specific point in the source code?
[06:37] <cortexA9> i want to try ubuntu 8.04 :D
[06:38] <fidel> MK`: dont mix up curiosity with question ;)
[06:38] <CQ> MK' dont mistake trying to understand something for questioning motives...
[06:38] <CQ> lol
[06:39] <MK`> I'm just being silly. cortexA9 I mean non-release versions, like natty alpha 2, etc.
[06:39] <MK`> the cdimage server seems to (understandably) delete them when they become obsolete
[06:39] <cortexA9> mmm
[06:39] <CQ> mk if you can get the package list maybe you can put it together... I know debian has image creation tools for use cases like that...
[06:40] <MK`> oh hey I think I found it! e.g. http://cloud-images-archive.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-2/
[06:40] <sisteczko> Welcome. After upgrade 10.04 -> 12.04 I suffer problems with my Linux Software Raid array. I cannot reassemble them. Does anyone here could try to troubleshoot my problem?
[06:40] <cortexA9> Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) where is this ?
[06:42] <MK`> though that's a cloud image and doesn't have things like Kubuntu builds. I'll yield the floor for sisteczko's issue however.
[06:42] <cortexA9> they deleted version before 8.04
[06:43] <MK`> cortexA9: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/warty/
[06:43] <cortexA9> thanks
[06:44] <MK`> any non-supported releases are mirrored there
[06:44] <MK`> so natty isn't up there yet
[06:49] <cortexA9> where is mark shuttlework ?
[06:50] <cortexA9> *shuttleworth
[06:50] <fidel> cortexA9: how is that an ubuntu trouble/question?
[06:50] <sins-> whats wrong with nickserv?
[06:59]  * DFrostedWang is allowed back on #ubuntu now
[06:59] <DFrostedWang> Yay
[06:59] <DFrostedWang> If only I used Ubuntu still
[07:00] <DFrostedWang> Since Ubuntu broke when I got banned, I, obviously, didn't use it anymore.
[07:00] <DFrostedWang> Too bad...
[07:12] <jpsman> testing
[07:12] <ShinyObjects1> jpsman: failed :(
[07:12] <ShinyObjects1> Sucks, man. Gonna have to try again.
[07:13] <jpsman> I just got a new hard drive and installed a new ubuntu.  I encrypted my old /home directory on the other hard drive.  Is there any way of accessing that from the new install?
[07:13] <jpsman> I don't think so ShinyObjects :OP
[07:13] <ShinyObjects1> Sorry jpsman, I haven't tried it and I really don't know what goes on with that under the hood. I REALLY doubt there's no way of doing it, but sadly I don't know what that way is.
[07:15] <jpsman> It would be a process of using my old passphrase to decrypt the old files and transfer them over - I just don't know how.....
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | jpsman
[07:30] <enyc> Hrrm. I can't seem to find the  12.04.1  version of PowerPC ubuntu  ?  does powerpc still work/supported  etc. ?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !ppc | enyc
[07:33] <enyc> lotuspsychje: ok, that page says that powerpc images have been moved to the ports section...   I can't see cd images on ports.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <e66> I have disk image. i want to mount it everytime I log in. how can I do that?  The user has no root-right on that account?
[07:35] <enyc> e66: would 'every time you boot up' be sufficient ?
[07:36] <enyc> e66: disk image ,being  something you are mounting  with   -o loop   etc. ?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> enyc: try this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[07:36] <enyc> lotuspsychje: yes, and 12.04.1  ppc is missing .  and thats contradictory to the FAQ you pointed me at.
[07:37] <e66> enyc: On every boot its sufficient. It should only be mounted for a special user
[07:37] <enyc> e66: how are you mounting it at present?  and what sort of filesystem *is* the image?  then I can explain options...
[07:38] <MadsRC> I've got my ubuntu server setup with apache and I've got a domain name (lets say example.com). What is the easiets way to get db.example.com to point to example.com/db ? Do I need to combine htacces with DNS or?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> enyc:on that cdimages page theres an amd+mac iso 12.04.1
[07:38] <enyc> e66: i wouldn't have thought we can mount it only for a special user as such  BUT  can set the filesystem permissions so only one use can read it,  which depends on the filesystem
[07:38] <Richard_Cavell> Guys, I want to use Ubuntu for development but I can't stand GNOME 3.  Is there any reason why I can't use 10.04?
[07:39] <e66> so the scenario is. A user in my system has a disk image. he keeps it in his home. he wants to mount it everytime he logs in to a directory which is also in his home. Is that possible?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !10.04 Richard_Cavell
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Do you really not like GNOME3, or just GNOME Shell?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !10.04
[07:39] <Richard_Cavell> I dunno mate.  I just like GNOME 2's simplicity and I hate that vertical bar on the left
[07:39] <enyc> lotuspsychje: looking at the  .list  files those amd64+mac  disks do not contain  .powerpc.deb  packages
[07:40] <enyc> e66: yes, but you havent' answered my qusetion ;-)
[07:40] <xcyb0rg> is anyone else having problems with qmail
[07:40] <e66> wait. .. answering. I was writing..
[07:40] <enyc> e66: it can be mounted on boot, and the filesystem permissions can be set so that other users can't go into that subdirectory.  What sort of filesystem is in the disk images?
[07:41] <enyc> e66: i.e. is it  an ISO9660, ext4,  FAT32, ntfs, etc. ?
[07:41] <e66> Currently I am mounting by a shell script. Its a whole disk iimage. So I mounts different partitions. Currently he asks me to mount I just mount.
[07:41] <e66> I created the shell script by watching the filesystems found by fdisk -l command
[07:41] <enyc> e66: are you mounting using  -o loop,offset=????  to mount each partition?
[07:41] <e66> yes
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: That vertical bar on the left is not GNOME3, it's actually the launcher for the "Unity" shell. You can try GNOME3's default shell, gnome-shell, but my guess is that you'll probably be happiest with XFCE which is very similar to GNOME2, and will stay that way for the foreseeable future (so you get what you like, without having to use old software).
[07:42] <enyc>  e66 ok and WHAT SORT OF FILESYSTEMS are they on that disk iage?  ISO9660, ext4,  FAT32, ntfs, etc. ?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Xubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu which uses the XFCE desktop by default.
[07:42] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Nope, downloading Ubuntu 10.04 now
[07:43] <e66> enyc: It has ext3 ext4, ntfs and a 100m dos partition
[07:43] <enyc> xcyb0rg: i have qmail-like-functionality by using  courier-mta  which i have working on a 12.04 server at present
[07:43] <enyc> e66: right.  now you say you don't want other users to be able to access the contents of any of his mounts?
[07:43] <e66> enyc: Right
[07:44] <e66> The disk and mount points both are in his home dir. I know users other users cant access them.
[07:44] <jpsman> thank you all :OD
[07:44] <e66> I actually want it shouldn't be mounted on everyone log on.
[07:45] <geirha> e66: Add fstab entries for them
[07:45] <e66> geirha: fstab will work for everyone!
[07:46] <e66> If there is no other way I'l surely do it with fstab
[07:46] <geirha> e66: Yes, but since the mount points are in his homedir, they won't have access
[07:46] <enyc> e66: ok then you can just add entries in /etc/fstab to mount them there...  the various columns will allow you to add the needed options
[07:46] <e66> I actually want it shouldn't be mounted on everyone's log on.
[07:46] <enyc> e66: because?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> geirha: How do you propose configuring a partition within a disk image to be mounted via /etc/fstab?
[07:46] <geirha> e66: so add the noauto option
[07:46] <e66> May be the system will have too many options
[07:47] <e66> May be the system will have too many mounts
[07:47] <enyc> e66: that shouldn't be a problem =)
[07:47] <e66> noauto option?
[07:47] <geirha> Jordan_U: the same way as a partition
[07:47] <Jordan_U> e66: There is effectively no limit on the number of mounts one can have with Linux.
[07:47] <geirha> e66: man mount
[07:48] <Jordan_U> geirha: Are you assuming that device nodes for this will be still created by a separate script?
[07:48] <e66> Jordan_U: after I add this, I'll have 19 extra mounts!
[07:48] <Jordan_U> e66: Not a problem.
[07:48] <enyc> e66: yes don't worry about that =)  its not like windows running out of drive letters
[07:48] <geirha> Jordan_U: e.g. /path/to/disk.img /path/to/mnt/point auto loop,offset=1234,noauto,user 0 0
[07:49] <e66> thanks for the example geirha
[07:49] <DarsVaeda> do you guys have no privacy & security tab content in firefox settings anymore too since the last update?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> geirha: Thanks, I didn't know about the offset mount option, (I only thought of it as an option to losetup).
[07:49] <enyc> geirha: what users thetn have permission to cause the mount to actually happen?  is thta down to who has rights to the mountpoint ?
[07:49] <e66> by the way I just found by googleing that fuse can do it. I need to check that too.
[07:50] <geirha> enyc: the user has to have write access to the mount point, or be the owner of it iirc
[07:51] <e66> Jordan_U: I found offsets in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/69363/mount-disk-device-image
[07:56] <tasslehoff> ikonia: after installing nvidia-current, discrete graphics and minidisplayport work on my t530.
[07:57] <esing> Hi, what format does Ubuntu want for installation?
[07:57] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, what do you mean?
[07:57] <esing> I got 20GB unformatted space, should I just let Ubuntu installtion formta it when booting from CD?
[07:58] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, yes
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> esing: sounds fine
[07:58] <e66> esing:  if you are sure if you dont have any data to loose
[07:58] <IT6> hi, i need to record with ffmpeg and i want to know the sound system my system is using, also or oss, how can i check that please ? thanks in advance
[07:58] <geirha> e66: I find it easier with parted. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000644
[07:58] <esing> Good to know, gonna reboot and install ubuntu on it
[07:58] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, ext2/3/4 for the system and it's needs a swap partition
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> e66: what data is there to lose if the space for Ubuntu is unpartitioned??
[07:59] <e66> ActionParsnip: I dont know. I always do it manually.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> esing: just remember to read the screen :)
[07:59] <LorSamPau_w_> e66, it doesn't have any date there )
[07:59] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ um you mean whether ext2/3/4 , but is it not ext4 by standard?
[08:00] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, i think its ext3 by default, i'm not sure
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !ext4
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> awww
[08:00] <enyc> e66: btw i was gong to explain , if somebodys directory is traversible, then you can use  -o uid -o gid -o mode  etc.  to set the apparent permissions on  DOS fat portitions mounted
[08:00] <esing> Thanks
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Ext4 has been default for a good while now
[08:01] <IT6> aplay -L
[08:01] <enyc> ActionParsnip: i rememeber hacking ext4 to work on my  8.04 box ;-)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> e66: I always do it manually too, separate /home partition ftw
[08:01] <enyc> ActionParsnip: patched kernel,  patched and reinstalled grub 0.97 fixed version  various backports,  updated  e2fsprogs =)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> enyc: jeez, worth it?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> enyc: or just fun?
[08:01] <enyc> ActionParsnip: i cant ermemebr maybe i was bored
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> enyc: zing
[08:02] <enyc> ActionParsnip: ??zing??
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> enyc: for thinking the same thing ;)
[08:02] <e66> ActionParsnip: I mount my 1Tb hd on home :) Its really a freedom
[08:02] <Neptu> in which package I can find redir command?
[08:02] <tasslehoff> Anyone know how to make clamshell mode work with the nvidia-driver?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> e66: I have a file server but I still partition separate /home out of habt
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> !find redir
[08:03] <enyc> ActionParsnip: i was using this box with  lots of 9gb scsi disks  / /home  etcy.... with a separate large 250gb pata drive attached too..   3 cd drives and 2 floppy drives, 4 video cards 5 mintors    etc =)  dual PIII  550mhz..  and it ran ubuntu from 4.10 to 10.04  lots of updating hehe
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> !info redir
[08:03] <enyc> ActionParsnip: those were the days http://ec2.sheer.us/~enyc/virtulization-fail.jpg
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> enchilado: 9Gb is enough for /
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> enyc: ^
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> enyc: I started ubuntu on 7.10 (Gutsy), used mandrake/iva before that, good times
[08:05] <enyc> ActionParsnip: i started with slackware and recompiling kernels overnight on a 486 =)
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> enyc: only overnight? wow
[08:06] <enyc> ActionParsnip: i had a 486 with MFM and SCSI disks =)  and  16mb ram  in 16* 1mb 30pin simms =)
[08:06] <Neptu> !info redir
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: is that what you need?
[08:07] <enyc> ActionParsnip: used to boot dos off a 30mb or so  625/4/17 MFM CHS disk  (you know on the old ST412/506 interface cables) on a WD1003 traditional AT disk controller...  and then LOADLIN linux that mounted root from a  scsi or pata drive  (pata channel being on a sound card which was initialiazed by a dos program)
[08:07] <cyberhulk> hi
[08:07] <Neptu> ActionParsnip: i think so... have a problem with it
[08:07] <e66> geirha: Thats really a technique. parted shows byte offset but fdisk shows sector.
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: ask away, the channel will reply if it can
[08:08] <cyberhulk> i can't use sudo apt-get i am getting a "username not in the sudoers file error" :(
[08:08] <spikhoff> hi, i'm trying to setup triple head video playing station using ubuntu server and mplayer (Ati Radeon HD6000, hardware accelerated h.264, xinerama) ... my question is do i need to install X in order to play  videos or can i use framebuffers or something else?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: have you been messing with sudoers file?
[08:08] <cyberhulk> no
[08:08] <enyc> spikhoff: hrrm ive heard of  directfb  being used... i dotn know these days
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: if you run:  groups      what is the output please
[08:09] <cyberhulk> i checked out a guide online and my sudoers file looks exactly like that
[08:09] <Neptu> ActionParsnip: the problem is that I have to use redir to redirect tcp ports going throw a vpn... my biggest problem is that sometimes the redirection seems not to work
[08:09] <enyc> spikhoff: i expect there ary many valid approaches  depending on the hardware etc. =)
[08:09] <cyberhulk> username root adm cdrom dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: why are you in the root group?
[08:10] <cyberhulk> ?
[08:10] <Neptu> ActionParsnip: my idea is those cisco routers goes down if no traffic is detected but then again if that happens do you need to reestart the redirection?
[08:10] <cyberhulk> my sudoers file looks like the pic on this link
[08:10] <cyberhulk> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: you need to be added to the sudo group and you will be able to use sudo
[08:11] <spikhoff> enyc: i'm looking minimal configuration in terms of software... i' dont need fancy desktop and so one :) ... this machine is going to public place and playing one video 24hour loop...
[08:11] <cyberhulk> i tried booting into recovery mood i got a root shell
[08:11] <enyc> spikhoff: you can just have one user launch a bare X-server
[08:11] <cyberhulk> then i used sudo adduser username
[08:11] <enyc> spikhoff: then launch a video player on it
[08:11] <enyc> spikhoff: that doesn't require a fancy desktop as such
[08:11] <cyberhulk> and it said username already added or sumthing like that
[08:11] <spikhoff> enyc: like xinit?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: boot back to root recovery mode and run:   usermod -a -G sudo username
[08:12] <enyc> spikhoff: yes, basically.. you can literally run X   but xinit/similar can be useful as a neat way to start just one program
[08:12] <cyberhulk> alright thanks a lot will report back in 5
[08:12] <enyc> spikhoff: you will either have to start the video program in the right size to fill hte screen  -geometry  etc.  or launch a bare windomanager like   metacity  so that vlc/similar can do 'fullscreen' mode etc.
[08:13] <enyc> spikhoff: maybe  vlc -f   will work without a window-manager, not sure
[08:13] <enyc> spikhoff: anyway you get the idea
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> enyc: or could run flwm for a slightly easier life
[08:13] <spikhoff> enyc:  thnx, mplayer seems to support directfb, first i'll look foward with that solution, thanks again
[08:13] <enyc> ActionParsnip: wouldn't be sprprised, what is flwm ?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> !info flwm | enyc
[08:15] <enyc> ActionParsnip: in what way do windomanagers intervene suhthat functions like 'fullscreen' work on mozilla etc.?  how does that work?  is it something over the X11 connection  or some gtk thing? etc....
[08:15] <killer> hi ...i tried to use open terminal here ......the gnome terminal just appears and disappers...while launching gnome terminal normanlly...itt works ok...only buggy in open terminal heere
[08:15] <cyberhulk> it said cant lock /etc/passwd; try again later
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: sounds like a read only file system
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc   please
[08:16] <cyberhulk> i have dual boot windows and ubuntu
[08:16] <enyc> cyberhulk: check  'dmesg'  for errors?  can you create any files anyway? etc.
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> enyc: they draw the windows so you can have them behave as you wish if they are configurable
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: run the command please, what is the output
[08:16] <enyc> ActionParsnip: indeed, i know thats what a windowmanage does
[08:17] <cyberhulk> precise
[08:17] <enyc> ActionParsnip: but, why, does  'fullscreen' on mozilla not work without a window-manager?  that doesnt need borders on the windows....
[08:17] <enyc> ActionParsnip: whats' going on at the API-layers involved?
[08:17] <cyberhulk> and yes i can create files
[08:17] <cyberhulk> i have a guest account also idk if that matters
[08:18] <cyberhulk> i am trying to install a C++ compiler
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: su to the user you made the troublesome user with, then run the command there
[08:18] <enyc> cyberhulk: if you are a guest you may not be able to do sudo and all that ;-)
[08:18] <cyberhulk> i m not the guest, and i am the only user on the system
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: you can install build-essential and get an ANSI standard C and C++ compiler with some default libs
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> enyc: not sure of that one, sounds a bit weird
[08:19] <cyberhulk> i was hoping for the g++ compiler.
[08:19] <killer> hi ...i tried to use open terminal here ......the gnome terminal just appears and disappers...while launching gnome terminal normanlly...itt  works ok...only buggy in open terminal heere
[08:19] <cyberhulk> and sudo apt get doesnt work :(
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: yes, that isinstalled with build-essential
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: you have a user whom can use sudo, you made the new account with it
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> killer: with the 'open terminal here', is that from nautilus?
[08:20] <enyc> ActionParsnip: does the bare X11 proto have any notion of monitors?  or it always presents a single rectangular canvas to the applications?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> enyc: I believe so but you will have defined them in xorg.conf unless udev does its thing
[08:21] <cyberhulk> is build-essential already installed? yes i only made one account.. should i change the root password?
[08:21] <cyberhulk> i apologize for a lot of questions, i am a beginner
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: build-essential is not a default package, you could enable the root account, fix your mess then re-disable it
[08:22] <killer> ActionParsnip :yea....it is in nautilus
[08:25] <cyberhulk> should i just do a fresh install?
[08:25] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> hello all!
[08:25] <cyberhulk> idk how to fix it
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> killer: so it's a nautilus script?
[08:26] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> See that (my work): http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8305/7981950124_24cbdaab4a_z.jpg
[08:26] <killer> yea i installed the package nautilus-open-terminal
[08:26] <adie> where do I set up programs to run on bootup, not just upon user log in?
[08:26] <killer> yea i installed the package nautilus-open-terminal:ActionParsnip
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: you may simply just need to remount the file system writable once you get to root recovery prompt butwhy don't you just use the first account you made when you installed?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: are you an ubuntu member now?
[08:27] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> yes
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> killer: then I suggest you report a bug by running:   ubuntu-bug nautilus-open-terminal
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: congrats (me too) :)
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid_Ubuntu: you may want to get your member cloak sorted
[08:28] <cyberhulk> i am using the same account
[08:28] <ZDroid_Ubuntu> ActionParsnip: You can call me ZDroid (i am changing name because of freenode)
[08:28] <cyberhulk> how do i make the file system writable?
[08:29] <highsenberg> ZZZzzzZZZzzz
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: then you will be in the sudo account by default as that is one feature of the first user you make
[08:32] <esing> Hi
[08:32] <highsenberg> ho
[08:32] <cyberhulk> hmmm maybe i have a different password for root?
[08:32] <cyberhulk> is there a way i can check to see if root account is enabled/
[08:32] <cyberhulk> ?*
[08:32] <esing> Are you sure I do not need to format my partition before running Ubuntu install CD? (Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD at all)
[08:33] <inger> Hola buenos dias, alguien podria ayudarme a instalar los binarios para programar C en eclipse con ubuntu?
[08:33] <__gilles> hi
[08:33] <esing> Where should I install Ubuntu Bootloader?
[08:33] <__gilles> I saw: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android , is there any news related to this ? :-)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: you will have manually set a root password if it is, and you will then know that password
[08:34] <cyberhulk> is there a way to change it ?
[08:34] <esing> I got two HDD's , 1st HDD : Windows 7  2nd HDD: should be Ubuntu installed.
[08:34] <inger> Hello, who can help me for install de binarys files to program with eclipse ?
[08:34] <cyberhulk> it should be the same password as my username then
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: in your case now, you'll need to remount the / partition writable, or use a chroot from live CD
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: the root password is not the same as your user account
[08:35] <esing> It seems Ubuntu is not able to read unallocated space
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> esing: install it to the 2nd drive's MBR then in BIOS set it as the bootable HDD
[08:36] <cyberhulk> how do i remount the partition writeable?
[08:36] <cyberhulk> and what command do i use to reset everything to default? thanks
[08:36] <esing> ActionParsnip Good to know, thanks (so having two HDD's Ubuntu would not even overwrite Windows 7 MBR)
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> esing: exactly
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> cyberhulk: not sure, maybe someone else knows while I websearch (you can do this too)
[08:37] <enyc> esing: what do you mean?  unallocated space ?
[08:38] <cyberhulk> ok
[08:38] <esing> enyc Unallocated space has not formatting
[08:38] <cyberhulk> thanks
[08:38] <enyc> esing: not in a partition?  or a partition created but no filesystem headers?
[08:38] <esing> enyc Not in a partition
[08:39] <enyc> esing: well said space *can* be read by e.g. using dd to read from the disk device directly, in the right place
[08:39] <antimatroid> does anyone know how i can get back to what the gui was like before natty?
[08:39] <antimatroid> i really liked that
[08:40] <esing> enyc (I resized my HDD to get space for Ubuntu, but I did not format it with NTFS or FAT) ... that is why I think Ubuntu install CD could not "see" my second HDD, though it was in correct boot order
[08:40] <enyc> antimatroid: lots of people just use  lucid 10.04  still     i think you CAN install either  mint-13 with MATE gnome-2-like-desktop  OR  install xubuntu or so which gives similar functionality i think
[08:40] <antimatroid> enyc: thanks
[08:41] <slashika> Hello, I have a problem with my keyboard on TOSHIBA Satellite 660 11v, I have UBUNTU 12.04 LTS  When I type the letters appear late and slowly and due to this many times the letters do not appear. It is really annoying!  I have upgraded the latest updates, but the problem still does not change and I am not so competent in using LINUX (but I love it anyway .  Can someone help me?
[08:41] <esing> It could also be that I connected my second HDD with a Sata3 cable instead a Sata2 causing detection issues
[08:41] <esing> I'll see. Thanks, gonna try again.
[08:41] <enyc> antimatroid: xubuntu and lubuntu  are like xfcp / lxde   diffeent lightweight environments, but they are coming on to work well.
[08:42] <enyc> esing: check 'dmesg' and 'sudo fdisk -l' for more clues
[08:42] <enyc> antimatroid: Mint-13 have done o good job to 'maintain' the old gnome-2 type desktop with newer adaptions, if i understand it correctly.
[08:42] <esing> enyc How do I open terminal when booted from Ubuntu install CD?
[08:42] <enyc> esing: applications accessories terminal ?
[08:42] <esing> Did not see it, I will take a look again
[08:43] <esing> So I can run the commands you suggested me
[08:43] <antimatroid> enyc: I'm pretty clueless when it comes to this stuff :) but I mostly use my computer for latex and some programming so linux is easier to work with than anything else still
[08:44]  * esing reboots.
[08:45] <Nemui> Hello, I'm getting an SSH/tunneling error -> Channel 2 open failed connect failed no root to host... is there anything obvious i'm missing?
[08:46] <enyc> Nemui: it probably means the connection can't be made on the ether end?  is the host you are tunneling through to working?
[08:46] <enyc> Nemui: "no route to host" i expect you mean
[08:47] <CQ> is there a place to get thunderbird 15.0.1 and install it in precise already (manually)? 15.0 freezes constantly on me
[08:47] <CQ> or accelerate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1049428
[08:47] <enyc> CQ: i have in the past used a manual mozilla install...   you might be able to get a  precise-proposed package ?
[08:49] <CQ> is there a place to download those packages? googling points to ppas
[08:49] <CQ> packages.u.c only has updates and backports listed
[08:49] <CQ> and I't rather not grab the quantal package
[08:51] <enyc> CQ: indeed i cant see said package either
[08:51] <enyc> CQ: you can use the debian tools to manually rebuild the package having patched in the mozilla source patch
[08:51] <enyc> CQ:  or you could do a mozilla manual install in a subdir of your homedir for the time being
[08:52] <enyc> CQ: if you have a $HOME/bin  directory when you login, then put a "thunderbird" script there that launches your own copy/install of thunderbird,  that should override using the system one
[08:52] <CQ> hm, any idea how long it'll take to show up? If its a day or three I can wait...
[08:52] <CQ> its annoying becasue every 10 mails or so (esp. larger ones) it hangs for 2-3 minutes with 100% CPU
[08:57] <esing> hey
[08:57] <esing> I think I forgot one more partition
[08:57] <esing> You said I would need an extra partition for Swap right?
[08:58] <esing> So I basically need 15GB for Ubuntu and 1GB for Swap right?
[08:59] <auronandace> esing: how much ram do you have?
[08:59] <esing> 8GB
[08:59] <auronandace> esing: if you want suspend/hibernate to work then you need at least as much swap as ram
[09:00] <k1l> esing: if you want to use suspend2disc (aka hibernation) you need swap = ram. but if not you can go even without swap
[09:00] <esing> Oh good to know, thanks
[09:00] <esing> Usually I don't use hibernation because I do not see a big difference between Standby and Hibernation
[09:00] <esing> I think it is 0,5 Watt difference?
[09:01] <esing> Should I chose ext3 or ext4?
[09:01] <LorSamPau_w_> ext4
[09:01] <auronandace> esing: either is fine
[09:01] <k1l> ext4
[09:01] <esing> Alright I try it again :)
[09:01] <esing> 4th time :D .. better than doing it wrong :)
[09:02] <auronandace> esing: just remember that swap has its own filesystem
[09:02] <mevvis> ryc
[09:02] <esing> auronandace I will go without Swap, since Iam already limited to only 20GB of space
[09:03] <LorSamPau_w_> do it with... just 1 gb
[09:03] <Onyx47> hello, is anyone aware of any bugs in Ubuntu's version of wget? I keep getting errors when trying to download a file using https, it works fine on my webhost though
[09:03] <esing> Oh, so Swap is necessary besides hibernation usage?
[09:03] <k1l> esing: no
[09:04] <esing> Why would I need 1GB of Swap for?
[09:04] <ZDroid> esing: You need GB that the have on RAM
[09:05] <LorSamPau_w_> Swap should equal 2x physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM, and then an additional 1x physical RAM for any amount above 2 GB, but never less than 32 MB.
[09:05] <LorSamPau_w_> !swap
[09:05] <auronandace> esing: swap is optional
[09:05] <k1l> LorSamPau_w_: that is outdated
[09:05] <ZDroid> if you have 4 GB of RAM you need 4 GB for swap for best experience
[09:05] <k1l> LorSamPau_w_: very outdated
[09:05] <esing> Iam confused
[09:06] <auronandace> esing: swap is only really required if you are going to hibernate
[09:06] <auronandace> esing: since you aren't then you can leave swap out
[09:06] <k1l> esing: if you needed more than your real ram things get stored in the swap instead of the ram.  but think of how much you are using 8gb ram and that storing in the disc instead of ram is much slower and will slow down the system
[09:07] <Onyx47> depends on what you're using your computer for tbh, I have 4GB of RAM and 256MB of swap, swap rarely even gets used, only time I ever really see it used is when I run something very memory intensive, and even then I never saw it go over 20ish MB
[09:08] <k1l> esing: so without swap a programm gets killed to free some ram if the ram is full. but again: think of how often you get 8gb of rum in use
[09:08] <ZDroid> swap is great as a additional RAM
[09:08] <ZDroid> not realy but you can use it
[09:09] <k1l> the old swap rules are from the days where ram was in MB sizes, not in GB like today. people often forget that
[09:09] <ZDroid> yes k1l
[09:09] <k1l> ZDroid: but very very slow ram. you dont want to use it. its better to buy a bigger ram stick
[09:09] <esing> Alright, thanks for making that clear.
[09:10]  * esing reboots.
[09:10] <ZDroid> I thought as a supplement if you run out of RAM
[09:10] <crizis> i keep swappiness at 0, torturing slow hard drive is useless nowadays when ram is pretty much free :P
[09:11] <ZDroid> and money :D
[09:12] <crizis> i remember paying under 100e for 8gb ram, and this was almost 2 years ago.. so it is cheap
[09:12] <ZDroid> I am paying over 200€ for the 4 GB
[09:12] <ZDroid> but newer
[09:12] <crizis> O_o
[09:12] <auronandace> !ot
[09:12] <crizis> yeah big bonus with AMD is that you can buy dirt-cheap ram and lots of it. however yes.. this is offtopic
[09:13] <ZDroid> yes
[09:13] <ZDroid> that is offtopic
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: still not sorted your cape dude?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> k1l: actually it's not even a problem if 8GB RAM *is* in use; it's not all used "usefully"
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k1l: so the memory manager will look at what's actually in 8G of RAM, go "right I need another 512MB, oh those buffers can go"
[09:14] <ZDroid> ActionParsnip:???
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram
[09:14] <k1l> gordonjcp: yes, i was assuming that buffers and cache were already kicked out.
[09:15] <gordonjcp> k1l: ah, okay ;-)
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: you said you are a member but you are still identifiable if I run a /whois on you
[09:15] <k1l> so i was thinking of a "real " 8gb ram usage
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: do a /whois on me, then pick a random name and /whois them, notice a difference?
[09:17] <ZDroid> ActionParsnip: ???
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> k1l: echo `free -m | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $4'}`Mb RAM free     Will show you
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: notice how when you /whois me, I am cloaked  and as John Cena says "You can't see me"...yes?
[09:19] <intel1> actionparsnip : hey
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> intel1: howdy
[09:19] <intel1> Actionparsnip : am f9 , u ?
[09:20] <k1l> ActionParsnip: he is not a member, accoirding to launchpad.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> intel1: not bad, getting my body clock round for night
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> k1l: ah, though s/he said she/he was earlier...
[09:20] <intel1> actionparsnip : :D
[09:21] <intel1> Actionparsnip : which interface u using rightnow , KDE , GNOME , Xfce ?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> intel1: Gnome + Compiz + Unity3D right now
[09:21] <intel1> so what's ur opinion of Xfce
[09:21] <intel1> cuz i istalled it on ubuntu
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> intel1: its great
[09:21] <intel1> its looks good
[09:21] <intgr> Hi! What's the "right way" to create directories on the /run file system for daemons? Should the Upstart script create it or is there a better way?
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> hi i have problem
[09:22] <intel1> Actionparsnip : but i feel that gnome is better
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> a problem
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> i con't install oracle 11g on ubuntu 12.4
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> intel1: both are coded with GTK. If you like the 2 panel old school desktop then XFCE is a good choice
[09:22] <intel1> ya
[09:22] <intel1> am not old
[09:23] <intel1> that's why i like GNOME
[09:23] <intel1> XD
[09:23] <mrmagdi_star2010> any body here can help my
[09:23] <mrmagdi_star2010> me
[09:23] <intel1> its just faster
[09:23] <intel1> the responding is so high
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> mrmagdi_star2010: https://blogs.oracle.com/toxophily/entry/installing_oracle_11g_db_on    does that not work?
[09:23] <bekks> mrmagdi_star2010: Thats because Oracle RDBMS arent officially supported on Ubuntu (by Oracle) - thus you cant install it.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> intel1: its made to do that :)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> intel1: if you want super fast then try Lubuntu, or even install minimal and just install fluxbox (No DE is required)
[09:24] <ZDroid> k1l: I am member of Launchpad
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: that's not ubuntu membership though
[09:24] <k1l> ZDroid: that is a different thing to an ubuntu membership
[09:24]  * ZDroid I am ubuntu member!
[09:25] <bazhang> !ot
[09:25]  * ZDroid I am memeber on http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/
[09:26] <bazhang> ZDroid, stop that
[09:26]  * ZDroid ok
[09:26] <mrmagdi_star2010> could i know how can i install vmware on ubuntu
[09:26] <k1l> !membership > zdroid
[09:27] <mrmagdi_star2010> help me to install vmware on ubuntu 12.4
[09:28] <ZDroid> bazhang: Why you kick/ban me?
[09:28] <bazhang> ZDroid, stay on topic. lets move on
[09:28]  * ZDroid ok
[09:33] <Patchouli> Hello
[09:33] <Patchouli> join #ubuntu
[09:34] <ikonia> Patchouli: you're already in #ubuntu
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> !vmware > mrmagdi_star2010
[09:34] <Patchouli> yeah i see, sorry haven't used IRC in ages
[09:34] <ikonia> Patchouli: don't worry
[09:34] <Patchouli> Is there a support channel? I'm having a problem
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Patchouli: this is the support channel
[09:35] <bustacap> What command do I do to search through a folder of files for a specific text line?
[09:35] <DoctorD90> Hi! I'd if it is there a way to install proftpd in standalone mode without interactive mode, thx!
[09:35] <DoctorD90> I'd know*
[09:35] <ikonia> bustacap: grep
[09:36] <bustacap> ikonia, I know that but I don't know what grep cmd.
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> bustacap  combine find with grep
[09:36] <ikonia> bustacap: grep $string $location
[09:36] <bustacap> Will that search all sub directories too though?
[09:36] <ikonia> bustacap: grep -r
[09:36] <Patchouli> Ok, I'm having some problems with my microphone.  It's not recognized in Settings>Hardware>Sound>Input.  I've searched the web for solutions and tried one that involved adding a line to the alsa conf file.
[09:37] <Patchouli> Hardware is Lenovo Ideapad Y560 which uses Realtek Audio Drivers on the Windows boot
[09:38] <DoctorD90> It is there a command to install proftpd in standalone mode without choose it in interactive window?
[09:39] <esing> hi
[09:40] <auronandace> esing: how goes the install?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> bustacap: or:  man grep
[09:40] <esing> auronandace Ubuntu was installed pretty fast. Iam writing on xchat right now]
[09:40] <bustacap> ActionParsnip, ty :)
[09:40] <auronandace> !yay | esing
[09:40] <esing> Thanks :)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: http://serverfault.com/questions/138067/automate-proftpd-basic-install-on-ubuntu-using-apt-get
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD90  there's gadmin-proftpd
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: its the top result on:   https://duckduckgo.com/?q=proftpd+unattended+install
[09:43] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: once you've finished installing proftpd, break out the install media and wipe and reinstall your machine
[09:44] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: if you see something connected to the Internet running an FTP server, it's been 0wned
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: or simply ditch crappy FTP and use sFTP which you get when you install openssh-server
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> i use gftp
[09:44] <DoctorD90> 1.thx actionparsnip but im looking for a thing that i have to type nothing
[09:44] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: it supports sftp
[09:45] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: then use sftp
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: yes, sftp is enabled and configured as soon as you install openssh-server
[09:45] <DoctorD90> 2.gordonjcp i do not understand ;P sorry...can you explain again? My english...is not good ^^
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: it uses the access the local users have on the OS as if they were accessing the files locally.
[09:46] <DoctorD90> ....are you meaning that sftp is alredy installed with openssh?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD90  yes
[09:46] <DoctorD90> ...mmmm
[09:46] <DoctorD90> I try *.*
[09:47] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: it's inherent in openssh
[09:47] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: same as scp
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> and IIRC, rsync goes over port 22, too
[09:47] <__gilles> except that to enable sftp server you have to uncomment a line in sshd_config
[09:48] <DoctorD90> I make a script in bash un 2 days, for install settings in my new vps :) so im looking for do not type nothing
[09:48] <__gilles> i don't think it is enabled by default
[09:48] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: rsync does if you pass it through ssh
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: yes, if you have the openssh-server package installed then you have an SFTP server now
[09:48] <__gilles> sorry it is on ubuntu it seems
[09:48] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: with something like "rsync -ave ssh"
[09:49] <bustacap> How do I grep for a specific file type?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> __gilles: in ubuntu it is default enabled, as is X forwarding
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  i don't use 'ssh' in the command, when I rsync to my remote p[D[D[D[D[D[Dc
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> pc even
[09:50] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: hm, okay
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> bustacap: you can use find first to find the files, or you can grep the output for the file extension (assuming they have an extension)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: maybe what I said is obsolete now
[09:50] <bustacap> ActionParsnip, ty again :P
[09:50] <DoctorD90> Mmm...in sshd conf i remember a line about sftp, but it is commented
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: nautilus can connect to SSHFS, In Windows you will need something like Filezilla
[09:51] <esing> It seems Ubuntu did not care about setting up Dualboot, so when booting from Ubuntu I do not see any option to choose WIndows 7 or Ubuntu. Can I configure this manually? This is my grub2 config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202271/
[09:51] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip, i use android xP
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: andftp can connect to SFTP
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> esing: run:   sudo update-grub    do you see windows mentioned?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> esing  I read this today http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/09/12/7-tips-for-dual-booting-linux-distributions-and-windows/
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: the port to connect to is 22, just like you would a 'normal' SSH connection
[09:52] <esing> ActionParsnip No, Windows is not mentioned
[09:52] <DoctorD90> I use es manager, and it is able on sftp ^^ thx ^^
[09:52] <mad578> bustacap: try grep -r --include=*.foo "something" .
[09:53] <DoctorD90> Now i try..installation is completed
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: sweet, no need for crappy ftp then, port forward port 22 on the router to the system and you will be able to access your data from anywhere :):)
[09:55] <esing> MonkeyDust Yes I followed more or less those tips
[09:55] <esing> How can I set it up manually, now that Ubuntu did not take care itself?
[09:56] <DoctorD90> Ok...it seems be able on sftp...even if i dont know if it is installed proftpd
[09:56] <DoctorD90> ....sorry
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: you can check with:  dpkg -l | grep proftp
[09:57] <DoctorD90> Sftp works, but is installed proftpd, so idk if is proftpd or openssh
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: then it will be openssh-server you are connecting to
[09:58] <DoctorD90> I dont understan that message xP >> [11:43] (gordonjcp) DoctorD90: once you've finished installing proftpd, break out the install media and wipe and reinstall your machine
[09:58] <DoctorD90> Ok..i check line in conf of sshd
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: its to test the unattended config, but its not needed now
[10:00] <DoctorD90> Ah ok
[10:00] <DoctorD90> It is my first server, so i dont really know what do, and what is useless^^
[10:01] <esing> Why I do not see my other connected HDD's in Ubuntu explorer?
[10:01] <DoctorD90> Ok subsystem sftp uncommented, is openssh....
[10:01] <DoctorD90> Good ^^ so i havent to install proftpd
[10:03] <esing> sudo fdisk -l  just shows this two partitions http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202292/
[10:03] <esing> Windows 7 recognizes all HDD's, why does Ubuntu not?
[10:03] <ikonia> esing: what other hard disks are there
[10:03] <ikonia> esing: that just shows one disk with 2 partitions
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> esing  is that the complete output of fdisk -l?
[10:04] <esing> MonkeyDust yes
[10:04] <esing> ikonia There are two other HDD's but none are shown.
[10:05] <ikonia> esing: what type of disks are they , are they raided ? are they on a seperate controller ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: true, fewer services equals more secure OS
[10:06] <esing> ikonia: No they are not "raided". What do you mean by seperate controller?
[10:06] <ikonia> esing: are they sat on a different disk controller than the disk you can see ?
[10:07] <esing> ikonia Sorry I do not understand your question.
[10:07] <DoctorD90> Only....in proftpd it is there "chdir" setting, that 'jail' user in his home....here how can i do?
[10:07] <esing> I do not know what "disk controller" is
[10:08] <DoctorD90> Yep actionparsnip..for this now i will not install more proftpd....and again, sftp is more secure than ftp :D
[10:08] <e66> I am getting " Starting crash report submission daemon                                                                                                                               [fail]" all the time on 12.04
[10:08] <esing> ikonia Alright I understood your question. They are both on Sata2
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: indeed
[10:09] <e66> ... why I get this?
[10:09] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[10:09] <DoctorD90> Indeed = not necesary?
[10:10] <mrAlmond> can I use a regular ubuntu 12.04 on a server with a raid 1 array?
[10:10] <mrAlmond> or must I use ubuntu server?
[10:10] <ikonia> esing: what file system is on those disks
[10:10] <DoctorD90> But i like that, once connected, im yet in my folder, and i havent find it....
[10:11] <esing> ikonia 2x NTSF
[10:11] <esing> I installed Ubuntu after Windows 7 (HDD#1) on a seperate HDD#2. Its bootloader was also installed on HDD#2. When booting HDD#2 I do not see Grub's menu to choose between HDD#1 or HDD#2. What made I wrong and how can I solve my problem?
[10:11] <ikonia> esing: you have two problems - your install problem is minor, what's more concerning is why the second disk can't be seen
[10:12] <ChapZ> hi folks, i have a question. i am new to ubuntu, and well this is question is not much with ubuntu, but its more with hardware/processor. i got thinkpad t410 and the cpu is i5-520M, i wish to know if i can upgrade the processor to i5-2540m? google tells me they are almost identical in all ways. suggestions please.
[10:12] <hfic> ChapZ,  /join ##hardware
[10:12] <ChapZ> okay hfic thanks
[10:13] <mad578> esing: what's the output of the command cat /proc/partitions? maybe this provides some more informations
[10:17] <DoctorD90> I find on internet:
[10:17] <DoctorD90> * Change the default sftp server from: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[10:17] <DoctorD90> What this change does?
[10:18] <hassan> plzz....help....my ubuntu doesnt recognize a cd or a usb???
[10:18] <savio> i think i have problem
[10:18] <savio> yesterday i run my update manager and it says something about partial update
[10:19] <savio> what's that i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> savio: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[10:19] <esing> re
[10:19] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip, what this mean?:
[10:19] <DoctorD90> [12:16] (DoctorD90) * Change the default sftp server from: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: I have no idea, sorry
[10:20] <DoctorD90> Internal-sftp ....mmm...bha!
[10:20] <esing> I changed HDD#3 to HDD#1 place, now I can see HDD#3, but still I can not see HDD#1. HDD#1(Windows) is in SATA2 beside HDD#2(Ubuntu).
[10:21] <savio> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202334/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> savio: ok then run:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    is it smooth?
[10:22] <esing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202336/
[10:22] <esing> ikonia Any hints yet?
[10:22] <drup4l_n00b> how can I get the string I want in grep like the result of grep is "File directory path    :  sites/default/files " and I just want to get "sites/default/files"
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> drup4l_n00b: you can pipe it into awk
[10:23] <NewWorld> drup4l_n00b:  use sed or awk
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> drup4l_n00b: blah | blah | awk {'print $5'}         possibly (may need to change the 5)
[10:23] <jrib> drup4l_n00b: -o may be an option.  Depends how you search
[10:23] <esing> I think my both problems are connected
[10:24] <esing> Should I do this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/gptsync.8.html ?
[10:24] <savio> ActionParsnip, yeah  its smooth
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> savio: sweet, no problem then :)
[10:24] <drup4l_n00b> thanks ActionParsnip will try ur suggestion
[10:24] <ikonia> esing: hang on
[10:24] <savio> ActionParsnip, why my update manager showing such thing
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> savio: no idea, I don't use that thing
[10:25] <patrickmi> !ciao
[10:25] <patrickmi> !list
[10:25] <patrickmi> !hello
[10:25] <patrickmi> !list
[10:25] <riz0n> Hello. I have Ubuntu Server 12.04 with Postfix,Dovecot,Spamassassin,Clamav,and Amavis. Can someone tell me where I can edit the rules? The filter sets SPF_FAIL to 0.919 and I would like to set it to something like.... 10 ;)
[10:26] <riz0n> I have my filter cut-off at a level 3, but some still pass through and I see that they all have the same SPF_FAIL similarity. SPF records has been an adopted standard for many years now. If the host doesn't have a valid SPF record, then I want to score the message high enough for the Spamassassin/Amavis to flag it as spam.
[10:26] <savio> ActionParsnip, no problem thx for help
[10:27] <pehden> What is a decent IRCd in the repo
[10:27] <loftsy> upgrading just broke my java install
[10:28] <demoo201> good day house
[10:28] <demoo201> can anybody help me on zentyal server
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> pehden: http://www.the-tech-tutorial.com/?p=709
[10:29] <pehden> ActionParsnip thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: ask and see
[10:29] <esing> Should I run sudo dmraid -rE ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> pehden: all I did was: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu%20irc%20server
[10:30] <pehden> me to but i forgot about that one.
[10:30] <demoo201> i config my zentyal server as vpn server now i can connect but cant access all the network resources and even the dashboard is not showing the pptp users
[10:30] <ferni> is there old versions of packages stored somewhere online? need to downgrade Thunderbird to 14 from install cd, but missing locale packages and they arent in local at archives either
[10:32] <dr_willis>  so you need versions from an earlier ubuntu release?
[10:32] <esing> Did I install Grub2 into the wrong MBR?
[10:32] <esing> Should I have installed Grub2 into the HDD#1 (Windows) instead of HDD#2(Linux) ?
[10:33] <dr_willis> esing: you can set the bios to boot the other hd
[10:33] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip: sorry, i have phone out of charge, and i have quit, but can you give me a good howto (good= for noob) on how setup public_html and connect them to www.user.domain.com ??? Many many thx fot all
[10:33] <esing> dr_willis Bios boots HDD#2 with Ubuntu, but Ubuntu does not recognize Windows7 also it does not show WIndows7 HDD in its file manager
[10:33] <ferni> dr_willis: no, earlier versions shipped with precise
[10:34] <esing> So basically my installation failed...
[10:34] <dr_willis> you do mean 2 disks. not 2 prtitions on the same disk
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: I don't understand the question
[10:34] <esing> I thought Ubuntu takes care of itself when installing Ubuntu after Windows...
[10:34] <dr_willis> ! pin
[10:34] <esing> dr_willis may you help me?
[10:34] <Ben64> 10.04, is there a way to speed up file transfers to NTFS?
[10:34] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, usuially it does if you told it to
[10:35] <DoctorD90> Do you know a good howto about creation of public_html ?
[10:35] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ How should I have told it toß
[10:35] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ I just told Ubuntu to install itself on HDD#2 partition 1
[10:35] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, in install setup it asks you
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: defrag it
[10:35] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: completely blank partition, freshly partitioned
[10:35] <dr_willis> try mounting the windows drive by hand
[10:35] <esing> No it did not ask, I could only choose where it should be installewd
[10:36] <Ben64> 26.8MB/s on VFAT, 15.3MB/s on NTFS
[10:36] <Ben64> same drive, different partitions
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: NTFS is proprietary, vfat isn't
[10:36] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, http://www.techotopia.com/images/7/7a/Ubuntu_11_dual_boot_resize_windows.jpg
[10:36] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i realize this, but my tv only reads vfat or ntfs
[10:36] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: and vfat doesn't do >4GB
[10:36] <esing> dr_willis How would I do that?
[10:37] <surya> hi
[10:37] <Guest49857> hi
[10:37] <Ben64> dr_willis: was that directed to me?
[10:37] <Guest49857> hi
[10:37] <Guest49857> yep
[10:37] <demoo201> i config my zentyal server as vpn server now i can connect but cant access all the network resources and even the dashboard is not showing the pptp users
[10:37] <ppseafield> 12.04 So I tried to install a deb with dpkg. It installed it and only warned about unsatisfied dependencies. Tried to apt-get those dependencies, but apt complained that my .deb package had unmet dependencies and should try apt-get -f install.
[10:37] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ If you read my problem	thoroughly you would know why that option was not on the screen.
[10:38] <ppseafield> I ran that (and didn't look close enough at what apt said).
[10:38] <ppseafield> Turns out apt-get -f install removed sudo.
[10:38] <jrib> ppseafield: what deb package?
[10:38] <ppseafield> Is there anything I can do to get it back? I have not set the root password myself.
[10:38] <ppseafield> guitar pro 6
[10:39] <zaggynl> hi, I'm trying to speed up my login with "UseDNS no" in sshd_config but with that I can't login, what gives?
[10:39] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip: [12:34] (DoctorD90) Do you know a good howto about creation of public_html ?
[10:39] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you can fix it manually but it's very compplicated
[10:39] <jrib> ppseafield: you can use recovery mode from the grub prompt to get a root shell
[10:39] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ You got an instruction to do so?
[10:39] <ppseafield> jrib: thank you!
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: try the mount options:    atime,noatime,relatime
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, well, you can restore windows loader in the recovery console that loads in the win7 install cd
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, and then edit your grub2 to add this win loader
[10:40] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ What has the windows loader to do with my problem?
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, how to do that in every step i do not know
[10:41] <DoctorD90> Bye, mobile phone out of charge, thx for great help ^^
[10:42] <Onyx47> esing, to add to LorSamPau_w_, in windows recovery console use fixboot and fixmbr, on ubuntu do update-grub, it should autodetect windows
[10:42] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: 0.4MB/s faster than before
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: step in the right direction
[10:42] <esing> Onyx47 Why would I use fixboot/fixmbr on windows if my windows loader works just fine?
[10:42] <Ben64> vfat is still almost twice as fast :(
[10:42] <ikonia> esing: apologies, I was just in a meeting
[10:43] <ikonia> esing: have you resolved why your machine can only see 1 disk
[10:43] <ikonia> instead of 2
[10:43] <Onyx47> esing, oh, sorry, I figured it was broken, didn't read from the start
[10:43] <esing> Onyx47 It is not broken.
[10:43] <esing> ikonia No.
[10:43] <ikonia> esing: I would concentrate on that issue, before looking at your installation issues
[10:43] <demoo201> zentyal users pls help meeeee
[10:43] <esing> ikonia I just know that I have to do install Grub2 manually somehow.
[10:43] <^DEMOSS^> i do it )) 10.10 ubuntu now on my virtual machine ))
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: forget grub for the moment
[10:44] <esing> ikonia Both issues are related.
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: you are missing a disk
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: no, they are not
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: ask and see if anyone can help
[10:44] <^DEMOSS^> ahahha Russian pple can do all )
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: grub has nothing to do with if your OS can see a disk or not
[10:44] <samkan> Hi, I am getting this error Gdk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO: assertion failed: (y1 < y2)
[10:44] <samkan> is there any workarround for the same?
[10:44] <ppseafield> jrib: i don't have the root password; can't get root recovery console
[10:44] <ikonia> samkan: that line on it's own is usless
[10:44] <demoo201> i asked nobody is answering me
[10:44] <esing> ikonia Ofc it does. Grub prolly did not take care of Windows7 because it was not detected :)
[10:44] <jrib> opalepatrick: it will not ask you for a root password, unless one was set
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: grub is a boot loader, it has nothing to do with your actual OS and if it can see a disk or not
[10:45] <esing> ikonia What should I do now?
[10:45] <samkan> but from where this error is coming?
[10:45] <samkan> and why this error occur,
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: so how many physical hard disks do you have
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: can you ping IPs on the network you are VPNing to?
[10:45] <esing> ikonia Three.
[10:45] <ppseafield> jrib: I'm pretty sure I didn't set a root password, but maybe I did. It was a while ago.
[10:45] <ikonia> samkan: what are you doing to create that error
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: how big are the disks ?
[10:46] <demoo201> (actionparsnip)
[10:46] <demoo201> i cant ping
[10:46] <ppseafield> jrib: am I screwed?
[10:46] <jrib> ppseafield: did you try just using a common password?  If you can't remember it, then reboot, change the kernel line to end with "init=/bin/bash" and then reset the password there
[10:46] <esing> HDD#1 (Win7) 1TB, HDD#2 (Ubuntu) 2TB , HDD#3 160GB
[10:46] <samkan> I am running InkScape for vector drawing on Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: is there a route for the netmask to go down the vpn?
[10:46] <samkan> whenever this error occur my software crash
[10:46] <ikonia> esing: can you please post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" again in a pastebin
[10:46] <ppseafield> jrib: I tried several. Thanks. I'll try that.
[10:47] <ikonia> esing: please paste EVERYTHING it displays
[10:47] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, in ubuntu in gparted is there your win7 drive?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> esing  use pastebinit to that end
[10:47] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: changing my cpu governor from "On Demand" to "Performance" nets a ~5MB/s improvement in ntfs write speed, looks as though cpu is the limiting factor in ntfs-3g
[10:48] <esing> ikonia I put HDD#3 on HDD#1 slot and HDD#1 SATA cable next to HDD#1 Sata slot (both SATA2), resulting that I can see now HDD#3 but not HDD#1 yet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202271/
[10:48] <ikonia> esing: that is not fdisk -l
[10:48] <ikonia> esing: please post the output I asked you for
[10:48] <uosiu> How to setup dm-crypt on ubuntu12.04 to ask only one for a password that is the same on several volumes?
[10:48] <uosiu> only once*
[10:48] <esing> ikonia Yes I mixed the link up. One moment
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> esing  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: if you run:  route    is there a route to the VPN'd network being pushed down the VPN device?
[10:50] <esing> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202373/
[10:50] <samkan_> Gdk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO: assertion failed: (y1 < y2)
[10:50] <samkan_> I am looking for the solution for this problem
[10:50] <ikonia> esing: what is the size of the disk that's missing 2TB?
[10:51] <esing> ikonia What do you mean?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> samkan_: what causes the error?
[10:51] <ikonia> esing: never mind, I can see it myself
[10:51] <ikonia> esing: it's the 1TB disk that's missing
[10:52] <esing> ikonia HDD#2 (2TB) got 1,8TB data NTFS and 20GB Linux, there is missing not space
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: I meant the size of the physical hard disk
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: you have a 1TB hard disk missing
[10:52] <ikonia> correct ?
[10:52] <esing> Yes
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> samkan_: what causes the error?
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: ok, is it possible there is a physical problem with the cable/drive bay it sits in ?
[10:53] <esing> ikonia No because I run it when changing boot order
[10:53] <radedo_> problema con la risoluzione dello schermo
[10:53] <root__> hi everybody- I am newbee and having problem instaling RT 2870 driver, when SUDO MAKE brings error
[10:53] <ikonia> you run what ?
[10:53] <esing> ikonia Want me to switch cables and try out?
[10:53] <ikonia> esing: it's up to you, I'm just asking if there is any possability of a hardware problem
[10:53] <ferni> does install dvd contain language packages?
yes but is for openvpn but this is for pptp and has diff ip
[10:53] <esing> ikonia They are both in Sata2 , so it is rather a software problem
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: what do you mean, they are both in Sata2 ?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: thats normal, is there a route listed for the remote subnet?
[10:54] <ikonia> how can 2 disks share the same sata port
[10:54] <esing> I got SATA3 and SATA2 controllers
[10:54] <radedo_> aiuto
[10:54] <esing> ikonia Ubuntu does not recognize SATA3 at all.
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: yes, but they don't share the same cable, the same controller port
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: ahhhhhh
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: ok, there we go
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: so the issue is your sata 3 controller is not picked up by ubuntu
[10:55] <ikonia> esing: is the sata3 controller part of your motherboard or an additional controller ?
[10:55] <esing> ikonia part of my MoBo
[10:55] <LorSamPau_w_> like a raid controller
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> esing  guess a solution was found here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456238
[10:55] <samkan> I don't know, it comes randomly
[10:55] <radedo_> ciao qualkuno parla italiano?
[10:56] <samkan> Most of the time it coming with InkScape
[10:56] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: how is that going to fix his sata3 controller not being detected ?
[10:56] <samkan> I am using inkscape as a verctor drawing, whenever this error occur, program crash
[10:56] <MindSpark> hello I am running 12.04 and after this dist-upgrade the system keeps doing fsck's on startup all the time. I did a manual one to fix all errors and checked using tune2fs to see if the fs was clean afterwards, and it was. However I still keep getting those forced fscks on startup. Does anyone know about this issue?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  esing idd, there was no solution found, just re-read it
[10:57] <esing> ikonia I have enough SATA2 ports, that is why I put all HDD's into SATA2 ports instead SATA3. THat is how I avoided SATA3 issues.
[10:57] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: I've asked you this before - please please please, stop posting things which are nothing to do with th eproblem
[10:57] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: if you don't have an answer, don't post random things
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> samkan: are there any bugs reported?
[10:57] <ikonia> esing: ok, so all 3 disks are now on the sata 2 ports, yes ?
[10:57] <enyc> MindSpark: hrrm  this might seem silly but  check  'memtest' on the computer..  i've had cases, where motherboard/ram/cpu/capacitors were not ahppy and it was causing all sorts of chaos/broken-filesystems/etc
[10:57] <esing> ikonia yes
[10:58] <ikonia> esing: so even with all 3 disks on sata 2 controllers, you are still missing a disk yes ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: could use IDE compatibility in BIOS
[10:58] <enyc> MindSpark: this then leads to filesystem corruption, which then leads to 'forced fsck' etc.
[10:58] <MindSpark> enyc, but tune2fs says fs is clean ?
[10:58] <albech> this new dns crap in 12.04 is causing so much frustration :( I really hope there is a greater purpose with implementing it
[10:58] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, thats really odd
[10:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: depends if the bios supports it, and the last line he's posted suggests the sata3 statement maybe a red herring
[10:58] <esing> ikonia yes
[10:58] <fairuz> MindSpark: check / if there is a file called forcefsck. IIRC, if you have this file, it will force fsck at each boot
[10:58] <enyc> MindSpark: hrrm if you shutdown and reboot again  quikcyl ?
[10:58] <albech> using dns over vpn is a pain in the @$$ now
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> albech: you can disable it, why not ask how rather than pointles whining which actually achieves zero
[10:59] <enyc> MindSpark: is it actually 'filesystem marked dirty' error or just some ubuntu-buggy-being-silly ?
[10:59] <ikonia> esing: please output the following command "sudo blkid" and pastebin it
[10:59] <samkan> no, it is gtk bug, not software bug
[11:00] <MindSpark> enyc, I am not sure. I'll check again
[11:00] <dr_willis> MindSpark:  does it say why its fscking. any messages like 'last fsck date set to future' or 'fsck count reashed'
[11:00] <samkan> even it is coming with some other tool also.
[11:00] <MindSpark> fairuz, nope, no such file
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> albech: if you ask questions you are being constructive. Moaning spams the channel and people will simply not advise you as you have not got a sensible question
[11:00] <albech> ActionParsnip, i still dont understand why they are making changes like that in a LTS release.. this has a major impact on enterprise setups
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> albech: it works fine here
[11:00] <sa_> Hi, somebody can help me with installing RT2870 driver? when SUDO MAKE i receive error
[11:00] <enyc> MindSpark: dr_willis making another good point.  It can be your system clock going (e.g. CMOS battery flat)  such that time wrong such that it always thinks its' time to check or so
[11:01] <esing> ikonia http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1202388/
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> sa_: linux commands are usually all lower case
[11:01] <MindSpark> dr_willis, the netbooks cmos battery is not working properly anymore. So I have to set the time/date on each startup. It used to be a problem like you mentioned, that the last mount is in the future. Until I would just set the time every on every boot
[11:01] <in0cula> I have a connection to internet via wifi, now I have a mini pc that i want connect to eth0 to ssh on it, but every time i plug the eth0 the wifi loose internet connection even if is still connected, any help?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> sa_: which wifi chip do you use?
[11:01] <bee> hello?
[11:01] <vak> hi all
[11:01] <dr_willis> saw a bug in beta that had fscks due to a date bug.
[11:01] <bee> my nvidia deriver does not work at all
[11:01] <enyc> MindSpark: drrm ok  cmos batteries can be replaced i've done it before
[11:01] <MindSpark> and since I started setting the time on each boot things went fine. But now, even that won't make a difference
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: use /etc/network/interfaces to configure the ethernet and let network manager manage the wifi (one way to do it)
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: it would be much better to just fix that.
[11:02] <MindSpark> enyc, for the eee it's a pain in the ...
[11:02] <ikonia> esing: Hmm, it really can't see that 3rd disk, I would check the cables
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: aaat take motherboard out,  unplug speakers etc.. yah i know =)
[11:02] <sa_> ActionParsnip: yes was lowercase, its RT2870 Ralink USB
[11:02] <esing> Ok
[11:02] <vak> Login dialog sometimes doesn't appear after lock-kscreen on idle -- anyone researched this issue already?
[11:02] <in0cula> ActionParsnip: good idea, I'll do it now
[11:02] <MindSpark> ok, so there was a fsck at this boot
[11:02] <in0cula> thx
[11:02] <MindSpark> and I just checked filesystem using tune2fs
[11:02] <MindSpark> Filesystem state:         not clean
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: still it could just be that fixing that will properly fix it   the hwclock may not register properly at all
[11:02] <MindSpark> :S
[11:02] <bee> after nvidia setting then,i can not enter the desk top
[11:03] <albech> ActionParsnip, i wasnt looking for advice when i typed it.. needed to vent ;)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> albech: wrong channel then...this is support only
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: when running, check 'dmesg' for warnings
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: it may SAY that it has found error and marked filessytem dirty
[11:03] <bee> so,how to write the xconfig with nvidia
[11:03] <bee> come on man
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: this would be helpful to know if that is actually happening, or not
[11:03] <MindSpark> what do I grep for in dmesg?
[11:04] <bee> hello
[11:04] <bee> mine
[11:04] <dr_willis> bee i let  nvidia-settings do it
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> bee: sudo nvidia-xconfig      have some damn patience child
[11:04] <bee> hello,somebody
you mean the dns or the ip
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: a route to the subnet, it needs to be routed down the VPN link
i can not do it
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: you get used to reading it and whats normal
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: the most useful think todo is  firstly  dmesg  and then look again later and see what 'new' messages have appeared
[11:05] <sa_> #ubuntu-beginners
am a beginner on zentyal can u pls explain a bit
because, everytime ,i let it go,but i comes out to me in the end without the desktop
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> bee: thats the command for the nvidia app to make an xorg.conf
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: i suspect 'e4' or 'ext4' may be part of the line you need to see but not sure
[11:06] <enyc> MindSpark: there should be something about filesystem dirty or error on device or whatever,  it will give you clues if that is actually happening
[11:06] <bee> sudo nvidia-xconfig--->make things worse
[11:06] <enyc> MindSpark: besides which you might want to see erros about the block device, not an ext4fs error
yeah,that's the worse key point
[11:07] <enyc> MindSpark: 'dmesg' tells you what the kernel has to say for itself, read it all, look at it, learn think, ask questions
[11:07] <dr_willis> an xorg.conf file in not needed normally. unless you are using nvidas twinview.
[11:07] <MindSpark> enyc, alright, thanks
[11:07] <dr_willis> or other special features
[11:08] <enyc> MindSpark: in my 'dmesg' I have a load of lines from "EXT4-fs" when it mounted and 'recovered' my filesystem (i had powercut...)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: my TV sets 3000 dpi and some ridiculously high res. Makes the icons microscopic and the text about 3 inches high. Sinle display
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: needs xorg.conf ;)
[11:09] <MindSpark> I'll have a look at it, thanks!
[11:13] <esing> re
[11:14] <demoo201> ActionParsnip you mean i have to link it on the server in a static routes
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I tried out several cable combinations until I found a combination that works
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I see WIndows7 drive in file manager. How would I fix my grub2 issue now?
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I still do not see Windows7 in grub2 boot loader
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: if a route hasn't been made to tel the OS to route trafic to the VPN'd subnet you will need to tell it, otherwise it willust go to the WWW and not connect
[11:15] <sedeki> how do I configure whether to use gdm/kdm ?
[11:16] <demoo201> Actionparnip you i have to do that on the server or on the windows(client)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: there is the route command on Windows too, you should check the routing table first
[11:17] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you need to edit your grub.cfg, and to do that you need to edit one of the files from what grub.cfg compiles: /etc/grub.d/40_custom... i think you can google it
[11:20] <stricjux> Ubuntu as a Samba server trully sucks. I've spent the best part of last two days of setting up shares and I still cannot access shares with more than one username (the one username works perfectly tho).
[11:20] <demoo201> actionparsnip on my routing table i can see the gateway of my vpn server
[11:20] <sa___> Hi I have problems to instal my wifi adapter Ralink USB, RT 2870, when I sudo make I receive error, somebody can help?
[11:21] <stricjux> Samba+Ubuntu: Anyone here that could at least help me debug my setup as everything should work considering my current configuration.
[11:22] <dr_willis> sa___:  pastebin the exact errors
[11:23] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ What should I put for this  set root=(hd0,1)
[11:23] <fidel> !details > stricjux
[11:23] <esing> fdisk -l only shows me /dev/sda or sdb but not hd0 hd1 etc??
[11:24] <esing> sda= hd0 ?
[11:24] <blackshirt> esing, hd0,hd1 was term for old driver
[11:25] <usr13> stricjux: pastebinit smb.conf
[11:25] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, i've never done that, i know just the way, not the exect code
[11:25] <usr13> stricjux: Which user works?
[11:26] <esing> sudo update-grub2 helped me
[11:26] <esing> I will reboot to see if it really worked
[11:27] <gianpietro> hi all guys
[11:28] <gianpietro> could u please help me with chrome+ubuntu+flash?
[11:28] <hfic> !flash
[11:28] <gianpietro> don't know why with many many videos on youtube
[11:28] <gianpietro> it grasches
[11:28] <gianpietro> *crashes
[11:29] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, try to disable hardware acceleration
[11:29] <blackshirt> install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:31] <gianpietro> i'll try both...in reversed order...;)
[11:31] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, give us some feedback)
[11:31] <gianpietro> i will
[11:32] <gianpietro> LordDeath, blackfrank:  sh0t@nemesis:~$ sudo apt-cache search flash|grep -i nonfree
[11:32] <gianpietro> flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound - Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS
[11:33] <gianpietro> i should have other packets
[11:33] <gianpietro> right?
[11:33] <gianpietro> how do i check wich version of flash plugin i have instaleld
[11:33] <gianpietro> ?
[11:33] <gianpietro> *which
[11:33] <Ben64> !enter | gianpietro
[11:34] <gianpietro> k
[11:34] <Ben64> gianpietro: to answer your question - http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[11:34] <blackshirt> !flash
[11:35] <sa___> dr_willis: error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202432/
[11:35] <demoo201> Actionparsnip can i meet you on personal thing
[11:36] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[11:36] <Ben64> sazawal: default is (I think) 5%
[11:36] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, how do I disable hardware acceleration?
[11:37] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, rightclick on the flashvideo or another flashobject
[11:37] <spikhoff> join #arch
[11:39] <ppseafield> jrib: Hey, I don't actually know where to put this init=/bin/bash line. My grub.cfg doesn't have a `kernel' line in anything
[11:39] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, it doesn't allow me to disable it...I mean i click on it but the sign doesn't go away..but I  don't think it depends on that because with some videos it works
[11:39] <jrib> ppseafield: you don't need to edit grub.cfg, just press 'e' at the grub screen
[11:39] <ppseafield> right, but there's no `kernel' entry at the boot screen because there isn't any in grub.cfg
[11:40] <ppseafield> there's no kernel entry anywhere
[11:40] <gianpietro> and also with firefox it always works.
[11:40] <jrib> ppseafield: you don't have any lines displayed to you in grub?
[11:40] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, i had problems with videos on youtube... some were fine, some were not, disabling hardware accel worked for me
[11:40] <ppseafield> jrib: I do, but none of them have `kernel' in them as commands.
[11:40] <jrib> ppseafield: it probably says "linux" and ends in quiet splash
[11:41] <ppseafield> jrib: I thought that's where I was supposed to put it, so I tried it there. Kernel Panic
[11:41] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,  I see.. thank you, but the problem now is that I can't disable it..
[11:41] <Ben64> gianpietro: go to a youtube video, right click, settings, uncheck the box
[11:41] <jrib> ppseafield: what did your line look like exactly?
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, In many cases though the box can't be clicked. If that's the case then you must not have scrollbars present so use F11 to fullscreen the window, then you'll be able to click in the box. After doing so press F11 again to return to normal window.
[11:42] <ppseafield> jrib: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=7b5fabe7-b35e-4c26-ac69-847e35c5bb45 ro   splash quiet $vt_handoff init=/bin/bash
[11:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:42] <ppseafield> jrib: also tried with just ro init=/bin/bash
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w_> Ben64, he tried that
[11:43] <gianpietro> I didn't try the full screen thing
[11:43] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, try it
[11:43] <jrib> ppseafield: well that's kind of weird.  You can just use a live cd, chroot to your install, and install sudo I suppose
[11:43] <root___> haha
[11:43] <ppseafield> jrib: okay, I'll do that. thanks for all the help
[11:44] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if that disabling HA wouldn't help - try to uninstall flash and install gnash instead
[11:44] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,  i think i 'll try your last advice.
[11:44] <dr_willis> i just use  flashreplacer extensions to play flash in vlc.
[11:45] <dr_willis> or flash downloaders
[11:45] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, do you use compiz?
[11:45] <gianpietro> yes I do
[11:46] <gianpietro> at least this is what ps says
[11:46] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, i think becaouse of compiz you can't uncheck the box
[11:46] <gianpietro> should I kill it?
[11:47] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if fullscreen doesn't work - just disable compiz for a moment
[11:47] <omgunetbootinsux> yo
[11:48] <aLeSD|> i all
[11:48] <aLeSD|> someone know why I have not git-p4 file ?
[11:48] <gianpietro> sorry how do I disable compiz temprary?
[11:48] <aLeSD|> I have the docs but not the binary
[11:49] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,
[11:49] <gianpietro> sorry how do I disable compiz temprary?
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> anyone able to help explain why i can't install ubuntu?
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> i'm trying to install 12.04 server, 64 bit, from a USB key.
[11:49] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, log out and choose other options like ubuntu classic or unity
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> after the boot menu, selecting install, all i get is a blank screen.
[11:49] <gianpietro> ok
[11:52] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, it was not the hw accelration! :(
[11:52] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, use gnash than
[11:53] <gianpietro> i have gnash installed already...
[11:53] <ubuntuinstall120> any ideas why i'm getting a blank screen trying to install 12.04 server? boot menu comes up, but after choosing language, etc. the screen clears and just sits there...
[11:53] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if i was in your shoes i'll just use mozilla )
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> nup.
[11:56] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> can't install.
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> great.
[11:56] <gianpietro> maybe  need to install browser-plugin-gnash
[11:56] <gianpietro> not working either...how do I select which plugin i need to use with update-alternatives?
[11:57] <gianpietro> i mean flash.
[11:57] <intel1> hey
[11:58] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, .... i guess i will try a little bit nore to fix this shit...after gonna go eat something now... thank you everybody! :)
[12:00] <intel1> see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783616
[12:00] <intel1> i wanna understand what this means : Copy the script below and save it on your Documents Folder.
[12:00] <intel1> and how can i save it
[12:01] <jrib> intel1: create a new text file, copy and paste
[12:01] <intel1> jrib : r u saw the link
[12:01] <jrib> intel1: yes
[12:01] <intel1> k ty jrib
[12:02] <jrib> intel1: and ideally you would read the script and make sure it's not malicious
[12:03] <intel1> i think its official cuz its taked from the playonlinux.com
[12:04] <intel1> and at all i can't read or understand this
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : am a newbie ubuntu user XD
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : am trying to make my .exe files and games work on ubuntu
[12:04] <rajat> hello
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : so i can leave Windows for ever
[12:04] <sburjan> Hello. Can Open Office and Lire Office be installed on the same machine and co-exist gracefully ?
[12:06] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[12:07] <Ben64> sazawal: default is 5%
[12:07] <sazawal> Ben64, Yes but why my other partition is reserving so much space
[12:08] <sazawal> Ben64, / partition is already  reserving 5% and that is okay
[12:08] <Ben64> because the other partition is bigger?
[12:08] <sazawal> Ben64, So every partition is required to save 5% of space
[12:09] <Ben64> sazawal: that is the default setting, it is changeable
[12:10] <tmf> Hey a question i went from samba 3.4 smt to 3.6.3  and now it doesnt work, i cannot access the samba shares/pc at all
[12:10] <tmf> did not change smb.conf or smt like that
[12:11] <tmf> any idea`
[12:12] <sazawal> Ben64, I need to ask is, is it okay for my system to remove all the reserved space from other partition?
[12:13] <Ben64> sazawal: not sure what you mean
[12:14] <sazawal> Ben64, 20 GB is too much space it is reserving for root. So is it okay to move all the reserved space to available space ?
[12:14] <racho> hello anyone can point out a good resource for ipsec  site2site  configuration between servers on diff networks
[12:14] <sazawal> Ben64, I wont remove reserved space from / partition
[12:15] <sapharoth> sazawal: i suggest you dont do.cause may be some important files exist on those reserved parts. if only you are that the reserved is no more used
[12:16] <sapharoth> * if only you are sure
[12:16] <Ben64> sapharoth: no files exist in reserved blocks
[12:16] <Ben64> sazawal: yes you can change the amount reserved, look at tune2fs man page
[12:17] <sazawal> Ben64, yes i have looked into that. I wanted to confirm that how much should I leave before doing that.
[12:17] <Ben64> sazawal: going above 95% usage on a partition could make the filesystem fragmented
[12:18] <sazawal> Ben64, ohh. But 20 GB reserved ? It is too much
[12:23] <aristidesfl> hi, is it possible to activate sudo for a bunch of commands
[12:23] <aristidesfl> and then get out
[12:23] <LorSamPau_w_> aristidesfl, just type them after sudo
[12:23] <aristidesfl> LorSamPau_w_ without that
[12:25] <tmf> in the logs it says   Cant open username map /etc/samba/smbusers
[12:25] <tmf> no samba ppl here?
[12:25] <sapharoth> commands which need root privileges need to use sudo.
[12:25] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:26] <LorSamPau_w_> i think the only way is to be logged in as root
[12:26] <sapharoth> aristidesfl, that's why no one can access root privileges directly
[12:26] <ztane> where could I look for poedit >= 1.5 for precise?
[12:26] <sapharoth> or you can login as root
[12:26] <Ben64> !root
[12:27]  * skraito say hi all
[12:27]  * nicekiwi meow
[12:27] <sapharoth> aristidesfl, as ubotto said
[12:27]  * reborn says hi to skraito
[12:27] <ztane> hmm
[12:27] <skraito> how are ya all reborn
[12:28]  * reborn is fine asusual
[12:28] <lemmy> Hi, I'm puzzled as to why I have to pass --cacert /usr/share/ca-certificates/cacert.org/cacert.org.crt to curl when connecting to a cacert.org signed site (without .error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed) After all the crt is part of ca-certificates.deb.
[12:28]  * nicekiwi "They're waiting for you Gordon.." - blackmesasource.com
[12:30] <kami> test
[12:34] <kami> test
[12:39] <jamg> hi
[12:42] <sapharoth> hey jamg
[12:45] <subdes1gn> how to switch off hdd "sleep mode", i mean if start to use, the hdd clicks one, and then i can reach it. so i want to permanently accessible after system boot
[12:45] <subdes1gn> i dont know what the exact word for it but i think its mounted just in sleep mode
[12:55] <Guest27915> theadmin, oh, damn.
[12:56] <dr_willis> this is 2 seperate hard drives right. not 1 hd with partitions
[12:56] <theadmin> dr_willis: Windows doesn't really care about that ;) Windows creates the boot partition on the first HD
[12:56] <Guest27915> dr_willis, yeah two hard drives. sda is the one with Ubuntu and this unknown partition, and sdb only has windows
[12:56] <dr_willis> just making sure hes not calling partitions drives. :)
[12:57] <dr_willis>  unplug the linux one as a test  perhaps.
[12:57] <Guest27915> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202156/ does this help? It is boot information script
[12:57] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  I'm on 10.04 64-bit.  I need bsdmake.  How do I get it?
[12:58] <Guest27915> dr_willis, because it uses grub2 as bootloader now that will give me more issues I think
[12:59] <dr_willis> somthing is weird with what youve said and the disk layouts.
[13:00] <Guest27915> dr_willis, theadmin: This is a screenshot from gparted too. http://i.imgur.com/orDnB.png
[13:00] <dr_willis> if windows was totally on sdb dud yiu add sda recently?
[13:00] <dr_willis> did you..
[13:01] <Cong> does the rubbish bin have a limit? and what's the canonical limit?
[13:01] <dr_willis> sdb looks like just a ntfs storage to me.
[13:01] <Cong> and how is it changed?
[13:01] <Guest27915> not recently, but it is my newest
[13:02] <dr_willis> sdb does not look like a windows install to me. its missing the boot partion that win7 uses
[13:02] <ciccio> salve
[13:05] <Guest27915> hello?
[13:05] <Guest27915> dr_willis, oh, maybe you are right.
[13:05] <Guest27915> strange it wasn't sending my messages
[13:06] <enyc> MindSpark: ok have you learnt anything? is your filessytem getting remounted / error-marked when shutting down?
[13:07] <thomasmyrman> Hello. I'm trying to remove the sidemenu that unity brings with Oneiric Ocelot. I don't want to uninstall all of Unity. Can I do this?
[13:14] <esing> hi
[13:14] <esing> How do I change grub's background image?
[13:15] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:15] <esing> I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:21] <Kami> hello - I've installed ubuntu 3.0.017 , I am logged in as admin and am trying to edit /etc/apache2/site-available/default     -- for some reasons, I don't have the permissions and can't change them because I  need to be the root user. Why is that ? Thanks.
[13:21] <blackshirt> Kami, yes
[13:22] <blackshirt> you should edit it with some higher privileges
[13:22] <LorSamPau_w_> kami, there is no admin user... you need root privileges
[13:22] <ldz420> I am able to view files on a windows box from browse network folder.. I can also move files.. I wanted to mount this folder on my files system does ubuntu12.04 comes with commands to do this ?
[13:22] <ldz420> or will I have to install them
[13:22] <LorSamPau_w_> !sudo | blackshirt
[13:23] <Kami> blackshirt - hi I am a newbie -  but I do I set up my root priviledge from the command terminal .... ?
[13:23] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_:  nothing matter to me :d lol
[13:23] <LorSamPau_w_> blackshirt, type sudo nano /etc/apache2/site-available/default - then type in your password
[13:23] <esing> How do I change grub's background image? I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: not me guys
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: that was for Kami
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: you have been noticed
[13:24] <BluesKaj_> Kami, you should have done so during the install when asked for username and password
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w_> blackshirt, sorry
[13:25] <Guest27915> dr_willis, I just tried boot repair and got this: 'GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again. Alternatively, you can retry after activating the [Separate /boot/efi partition:] option.'
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w_> Kami, type sudo nano /etc/apache2/site-available/default - then type in your password
[13:25] <Kami> so you mean that every time I edit or create a new file, I' ll have to type this entire line ?
[13:26] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you need to change it in the /etc/grub.d/ - there is some script files that compiles into the grub cfg
[13:26] <LorSamPau_w_> Kami, just in the directory that need a root privilage
 ok thanks
[13:29] <jabbar> hi
[13:29] <ldz420> hey jabbar
[13:30] <jabbar> i am ready to answer ur question?
[13:30] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme - that's that file
[13:31] <jabbar> 1549 guy have no q?
[13:31] <Cong> what's the rubbish-bins' size limit? and how do I change it?
[13:32] <dr_willis> how do you know it has a limit?
[13:33] <dr_willis> id say check askubuntu.com cong
[13:33] <Cong> I deleted someone files and they aren't there anymore.
[13:33] <dr_willis> deleted from where.
[13:34] <LorSamPau_w_> i don't think that it has a limit
[13:34] <dr_willis> and how
[13:34] <Cong> I sent them to the rubbish bin and there was only one big file left. That made me think there must be a limit.
[13:34] <LorSamPau_w_> are you sure that the deleted files were in the trash in the first place?
[13:35] <Cong> I'm very sure I deleted them and they were sent to the rubbish bin.
[13:35] <dr_willis> in some cases it will delete and not move to trash
[13:36] <LorSamPau_w_> Cong, gksudo nautilus '/root/.Trash/'
[13:36] <LorSamPau_w_> Cong, make sure that there is no hidden files in the trash
[13:36] <Guest27915> some guys in #windows told me to use gparted to make a new msdos boot record. anyone know how?
[13:36] <Cong> They aren't in there folders anymore. Also, I don't want to recover them. I want to set a bigger limit in case I do delete something I want to get back.
[13:36] <dr_willis> running nautilus as root would use roots trash. i belive.
[13:37] <dr_willis> cong i say check at  askubuntu.com then
[13:38] <dr_willis> ive seen the trash get to be 10+gb in size
[13:39] <dr_willis> also unmunting a fs may clean out the trash on that fs
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> I typically use "shift+delete" then cry later :-)
[13:39] <LorSamPau_w_> ))))
[13:40] <dr_willis> TheLordOfTime:  askubuntu is easier to use then the forums.
[13:41] <dr_willis> less clutter :)
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis:  kinda sent that in privmsg for a reason, as to not clutter *this* channel :P
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis:  because i've seen differing opinions :P
[13:41] <enyc> Paddy_NI: or just 'rm' command ;-)
[13:42] <pranavk> how to edit sudoers file without using sudo
[13:42] <dr_willis>  i use the askubuntu lens constantly in here.
[13:42] <Sokel> pranavk: It's impossible.;
[13:42] <pranavk> there is some error in my sudeors file
[13:42] <Sokel> pranavk: You have to have root access.
[13:42] <TheLordOfTime> pranavk:  you can't.  you need sudo to edit sudoers
[13:42] <dr_willis> pranavk: recoverymode or live cd   perhaps
[13:43] <pranavk> everytime i use sudo wid a command it tells me about error in sudoers fie
[13:43] <Cong> that's what I was thinking live cd
[13:43] <Sokel> pranavk: Get a live cd or a recovery disc and fix it.
[13:43] <dr_willis> recovery mode in grub menu is ok
[13:44] <esing> How do I change grub's background image? I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:44] <serg123j> dfdf
[13:44] <esing>  etc/grub.d/05* does not help because that is a script without options to change
[13:44] <serg123j> hey guys, why epiphany non free?
[13:45] <dr_willis> esing: i edit the config in /etc/grub/  to use whatever file i want.
[13:45] <dr_willis> esing: it used to have a image setting or lines in there.
[13:46] <esing> dr_willis I read that config but it is build with if loops, like if it does not find that image it will use in the end the standard ubuntu desktop wallpaper. so I would not know where to insert the filepath for my wallpaper..
[13:46] <mathi> hi
[13:46] <Cong> serg123j, epiphany the web browser? why use that? firefox is better.
[13:46] <dr_willis> esing:  i change the code. or copy my image to wheres it is looking
[13:47] <mathi> I installed apache with the following command: "sudo apt-get install apache2". Now if I try to run httpd "sudo httpd start" it says: httpd: command not found
[13:47] <dr_willis> i normally set it to use /boot/wallpaper.png  in the past
 i would like free browser, full free
[13:48] <fidel> mathi: why do you think you have to run that last command?
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> mathi:  try sudo service apache2 start
[13:48] <mathi> fidel, I thought that's how I start apache
[13:48] <fidel> nope ;)
[13:48] <Cong> Firefox is free. what kind of free are you talking about, serg123j? blag free?
[13:48] <fidel> the service is apache2 as TheLordOfTime mentioned already
[13:48] <mathi> TheLordOfTime, fidel, thank you
 Free like a Fully free distros
[13:49] <serg123j> all code on GPL or GLP like)
[13:49] <Cong> get blag it's totally free.
[13:49] <mathi> how can I see that the apache server on my linux machine is accessible ?
[13:49] <ldz420> Cong:  they might want to use WebkitGTK+ but also
[13:50] <fidel> mathi: how do you define accessible?
[13:50] <fidel> from where?
[13:50] <serg123j> blag is free, but know i on trisi and problem must be killed)
[13:50] <mathi> fidel, from my windows machine in another place (not localhost), I want to know if there is no problem because of firewall, NAT, ... to see if I can access the server
[13:50] <ztane> where can i get poedit 1.5 debs any idea :S
[13:50] <Eagleman7> Is there a Certification Authority management tool for the command line only?
[13:51] <ztane> does not even work when compiled from source, crashes before displaying the window
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: in case its a local network - just open the browser and enter the dns-name / ip of that apache-server
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: you should see a 'it works' text
[13:51] <Cong> serg123j get iceCat, it's more free.
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: if it should be accessible from outside your lan you have to do more work first
[13:51] <mathi> fidel, it's not local network, it's through the Internet, so I can put the internet IP of the machine ?
[13:52] <mathi> ah
 icecat have drop, but now i don't now)
[13:52] <fidel> mathi: ask yourself how a singla coming from the web and reacing your router should know that it should be formwarded to your apache server
[13:52] <serg123j> maybe maybe)
[13:53] <mathi> fidel, I think you mean I should do port forwarding in my router, is that right ?
[13:53] <fidel> mathi: port-forwarding is the keyword then - and re-think your security setup then
[13:53] <dshiner> #smarty
[13:53] <fidel> yep
[13:53] <FransWillem> Is there any way to have Ubuntu listen for a serial connection on a USB->Serial converter? I'd like to add a way to log into my headless machine if it's network interface is offline or something
[13:53] <mathi> fidel, but I need to forward the port 80 ?
[13:53] <mathi> TCP
[13:53] <fidel> mathi: yep - as long as your apache is working on that default port - and only using that one
[13:53] <Eagleman7> Is there a Certification Authority management tool for the command line only?
[13:53] <ztane> ofc not even quantal will have poedit 1.5 :SSSS
[13:54] <Rewt`> so I did an update yesterday, said I needed to reboot, did that on the way out of the office, come in this morning, and I'm stuck at 640x480. Nvidia.
[13:54] <mathi> fidel, I will try thanks!
[13:54] <TJ-> FransWillem: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[13:54] <esing> dr_willis  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202673/
[13:55] <serg123j> well thanks, i need go in F8king Moscow metropolitain)
[13:55] <Rewt`> tried the "additional drivers" route, says I need to reboot. I do, and nothing.
[13:55] <Rewt`> brb
[13:55] <esing> dr_willis Only information I have is that I have to put my image into boot/grub*/ but that does not work
[13:55] <esing> dr_willis What should I change in the file you named?
[13:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: See the package "ca-certificates" - it contains several support executables
[13:56] <Eagleman7> Thanks
[13:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: "man 8 update-ca-certificates" for starters
[13:56] <Eagleman7> Is there also a good site for learning certificates?
[13:56] <Eagleman7> I am a newb on that area
[13:57] <TJ-> Eagleman7: openssl is the primary package for all things certificatation-wise
[13:57] <designbybeck> Does Ubuntu have anything like Fedora's POSSE for educators?! http://opensource.com/education/12/9/posse-2012-report
[13:59] <Rewt`> ok, got resolution back. but using old driver. /shrug
[14:00] <dr_willis> esing:  im on my phone so cant look. i dont recall it being too hard. i think the ubuntu grub pages have info on it
[14:01] <esing> dr_willis alright I continue researching
[14:03] <ztane> haha so
[14:03] <ztane> funny, if I want to run poedit 1.5.3 on linux, I have to use windows version with wine :D
[14:04] <TJ-> esing: See the "GRUB 1.99 and later" section of  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays
[14:05] <agc93> hi all. i just started an rsync copy, but had to interrupt it. The source folder has now completely disappeared from the drive. What the hell is going on??
[14:06] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:06] <agc93> last time I trust the internet when it tells me that rsync is more reliable than cp
[14:07] <TJ-> agc93: What command line did you use?
[14:08] <pvivek> Is it possible to have a direct downloadable image(iso) of ubuntu and a set of softwares installed in it? If yes where do i get it from?
[14:08] <agc93> rsync -av /mnt/HDD/Data/Movies /srv/data
[14:08] <agc93> was the original command which got interrupted
[14:08] <anon235> helloo guys what is the difference between qt and gtk
[14:08] <agc93> Now the /mnt/HDD/Data/Movies folder is completely gone
[14:09] <extropy> anon235: I believe qt is kde and gtk is gnome
[14:10] <Cong> I thought it was kdesktop is kde
[14:10] <TJ-> agc93: My bet is, the mount is no longer there. Have you checked?
[14:10] <agc93> yeah, every other folder on the drive is still there
[14:10] <trece8> how do i uninstall everything about the adobe flash plugin?
[14:10] <agc93> Even tried connecting the drive to a different comp, and everything except the Movies drive is appearing
[14:10] <anon235> helloo am a bit confused i was a hardcore gnome user but some devs say gnome has no goals they will quietly die i don't like unity kde xfce what to do
[14:10] <bustacap> Is there a way of hearing a live microphone input through speakers or headphones on ubuntu?
[14:10] <agc93> Trick is, even if rsync was somehow deleting the files, I don't think it had time to do the whole dir.
[14:11] <trece8> anon235: turn off pc. Live your life.
[14:11] <TJ-> agc93: Check the log files for system errors. (/var/log/kern.log, etc.)
[14:11] <extropy> I guess kdesktop is just the background of a kde desktop
[14:11] <anon235> i live my life on pc :D
[14:11] <agc93> Ok, gimme a sec and I'll check the lot
[14:11] <TJ-> anon235: Get used to the command line
[14:12] <tsimpson> extropy: kdesktop was the application that managed the desktop background, it doesn't exist any more
[14:12] <extropy> I see
[14:12] <anon235> is awesome window manager available in ubuntu repos
[14:12] <TJ-> agc93: Also, an fsck on the drive might be advisable
[14:12] <agc93> Good call TJ- there are buffer overflows all over the logs
[14:12] <extropy> replaced by "Plasma"
[14:12] <agc93> sorry, I/O errors not overflows
[14:13] <TJ-> agc93: first place to look when something 'strange' happens... it'll almost always save you grief!
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> dr_willis, , interesting , some active nicks that show up in the chat text here , aren't listed in the client nicklist, so the tab key doesn't auto complete
[14:13] <agc93> TJ-: Yeah, definitely. No idea why I didn't before. You think an fsck could recover it?
[14:14] <TJ-> agc93: has to *shrug* :) ... what file-system is it?
[14:14] <Cong> BluesKaj_, what client are you using?
[14:14] <agc93> NTFS, unfortunately.
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> Cong, konversation
[14:14] <agc93> It's my only non-Ext4 drive, and its the one that cracks the shits
[14:14] <TJ-> agc93: urggh... well best to do a "chkfdisk /f" on a Windows device
[14:14] <opticnerpe> Hello #ubuntu.  When I reboot my computer my video settings change on me.  I am using AMD Catalyst Control Center (CCC) to make my video changes.  When I hit Apply the changes stick and everything is good.  But when I reboot, I have to re-do the changes again.  After I make the changes in CCC I see it edits the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  So now I am trying to determine what program at system startup is changing this file.  Greping for
[14:14] <opticnerpe> "xorg.conf" in /etc/init.d/  did not return any results. I want to know if anyone in #ubuntu has an idea of how I can solve this problem.
[14:14] <anon235> whne will ubuntu use btrfs as default filesystem ?
[14:15] <agc93> Yeah, I'll give that a shot, then run it through TestDisk and see what i comes up with...
[14:15] <Cong> BluesKaj_, whose missing from the list?
[14:15] <BluesKaj_> Cong, I don't think it's my client ..it might be whatever client said nick is using
[14:15] <TJ-> agc93: See if the logs reveal what kicked off the error? if it's an external USB device I'd bet on the USB port not being able to provide the power the drive needed when you made it get busy
[14:15] <Cong> BluesKaj_, who is missing from the list?
[14:16] <agc93> TJ-: Yeah, that would make sense, except for the massive-ass external psu I have to connect it to :/
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: photorec should save you. But if it's an external drive ensure it's got independent power
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: Ahhh... is it via a hub or a direct to a port on the PC?
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> Cong, esing
[14:16] <deke111> Hi - Does anyone know any disadvantages of installing ubuntu in Windows with wubi rather than on it's own partition? Is the performance the same? Thanks.
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: I've seen *so many* flakey USB devices when you hit them with sustained work
[14:16] <agc93> Direct port. I would usually use a hub, but I thought better on a real port
[14:17] <ratcheer> opticnerpe: Have you tried running it under gksu?
[14:17] <Cong> BluesKaj_, no one can hide here on IRC unless they are on different which you are not. Only if the i flag is set and the server accepts them.
[14:17] <TJ-> agc93: sometimes even ports on a PC have differences. If it's a desktop it's not uncommon for the front ports to be worse than rear ports for USB high-speed devices that saturate the bus
[14:18] <opticnerpe> ratcheer, yes.
[14:18] <newguy> test. please ignore
[14:18] <TJ-> agc93: I've even seen it on laptops that overload a single controller with too many internal ports and the externals can break the camel's back, so to speak... so it's worth trying other ports
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> Cong, I was going to respond to aquestion he had earlier but when the autocomplete didn't work , i assumed he had left , However he was actually still here.
[14:18] <bustacap> Is there a way of listening to the microphone input in realtime on ubuntu?
[14:19] <Cong> he's on my list, BluesKaj_.
[14:19] <opticnerpe> Right now I am reading about the audit system that was introduced in Linux Kernel 2.6.  There is an audit daemon (auditd) which can be configured to monitor for certain things.  I am going to have it monitor /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what is changing it when I reboot
[14:19] <bazhang> newguy, try #test
[14:20] <ratcheer> opticnerpe: Ok, I don't know then. Sometimes I can even successfully make persistent settings as my normal user. I don't understand why they keep sometimes but not others.
[14:20] <BluesKaj_> Cong, ok , which client ?
[14:20] <Cong> I think it's your IRC client.
[14:20] <opticnerpe> reading more about it right now... otherwise, if anyone else has an idea I'd be happy to hear it
[14:20] <hypershock> guys I have a huge problem that I can't seem to resolve. I have the nvidia 6150LE and proview lcd monitor. The ubuntu display setting will only let me choose 1024x768, the monitor can do 1280x1024 which it does when i boot to vista. I need a solution to this. Additionally, when ubuntu boots I don't see any screen until it gets to login screen. the boot splash doesn't show and I can't get to any pure text consoles because of the driver issue. Updating to
[14:20] <hypershock> one of the other drivers using proprietary does't change the problem. help. :)
[14:21] <Cong> BluesKaj_, restart your IRC client.
[14:22] <daem0n> anyone experience this error during ubuntu 12.04 install: unable to find a live filesystem on this medium ?
[14:22] <TJ-> hypershock: Unless you're on nvidia driver v3.04 (from -proposed) you have to use "Nvidia  X Server Settings" to configure the screens - the operating-system display settings can't do it since the older nvidia drivers don't support the Xrandr function.
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> Cong, which client are you on ?
[14:23] <gswain> weird I cant post to #ubuntu-arm
[14:23] <hypershock> tj how do i ensure the driver is 3.04
[14:24] <TJ-> hypershock: If you're using the nvidia proprietary driver, just use Dash to find and run "Nvidia X Server Settings"
[14:24] <Cong> XCHAT, BluesKaj.
[14:24] <BluesKaj_> I won't reboot konversation for the sake of one or two nicks that don't list ...I was merely curious about this , that's all
[14:24] <Cheezy> Hey guys, I am having alot of trouble with my webcam microphone on my laptop being reconginzed
[14:24] <hypershock> ok my driver version is 295.49
[14:24] <nathaneltitane> hello everybody
[14:24] <Pici> gswain: let me get that sorted out for you
[14:25] <nathaneltitane> i am configuring gdm and changing it's appearane and need to do so via dbus-launch. how can I capture and reuse the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS that is generated directly rather than copy-pasting it as input to automate the process
[14:26] <nathaneltitane> appearance*
[14:26] <phix> TJ-: you like unity?
[14:26] <TJ-> phix: I put up with it so I can get things done!
[14:26] <phix> I still feel that it is a backwards move but what do I know
[14:26] <hypershock> tj thank you very much, you saved me!
[14:27] <vector> I dislike unity
[14:27] <TJ-> hypershock: once v304 lands in the main repositories you'll be able to use the Display manager to do it... at last! Best thing nvidia have added to the driver in a long time - xrandr support!
[14:27] <Cong> BluesKaj_, don't you want to know why two nicknames won't appear in the list?
[14:27] <hypershock> tj how can i get v304 now?
[14:27] <bkc_> TJ-: x-swat ppa?
[14:28] <nathaneltitane> vector: i am working on a pure gnome transition script
[14:28] <TJ-> hypershock: Enable the -proposed repository in software sources
[14:28] <bkc_> hypershock: add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[14:28] <bkc_> or add*
[14:29] <vector> i have 4 24" monitors... I hate flying the mouse all the way over the the left screen (screens 1 and 2 counted from the left are my secondary monitors really)
[14:29] <TJ-> hypershock: you don't need the PPA - it's in -proposed
[14:29] <vector> I'm sure there's probably a way to move the thing, but I get irritated quickly (in seconds) and didn't ever give it another chance
[14:30] <bkc_> TJ-: adding -proposed is a reeally bad idea... as it contains more than just the nvidia-driver...
[14:30] <TJ-> vector: Same here - I've always been a big multi-monitor user and these small-device accommodations are a backwards step for me
[14:30] <TJ-> bkc_: Well everything in -proposed is headed for -updates or -security anyhow - unlike the PPA :)
[14:30] <opticnerpe> Going to reboot and then auditd should tell me what changes my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:30] <opticnerpe> The moment of truth is near
[14:30] <opticnerpe> brb
[14:31] <vector> now on my laptop I live with it because it's not that bad.. but after going multi-monitor 2 years ago I can't stand to use the laptop LOL
[14:31] <bkc_> TJ-: sure, but they might contain unnessecary bugs... as he only wants the newer nvidia-driver
[14:31] <hypershock> tj and bkc thanks again
[14:32] <hypershock> bkc_ naw I would've found and enabled that unchecked repository anyways, I was shocked to realize just now that I had not enabled it already.
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> Cong, it's just a curiosity , and I chalk it up some setting or other on his client or mine that's responsible , but I'm not going to spend any more time on this .
[14:32] <TJ-> bkc_: hypershock I'd stick with nvidia 295 for now anyhow - 304 has some tearing issues on some systems, and other glitches including a kernel-level fault that can lock the system up
[14:32] <hypershock> bkc_ but yeah you are right, for a newb or a workstation for a business user you would want to enable proposed.
[14:32] <bkc_> TJ-: never had any tearing on my computer running 304 w/ 2 monitors...
[14:33] <TJ-> bkc_: Like I said, it's on some systems
[14:33] <bkc_> hypershock: wouldn't wanna*
[14:33] <hypershock> bkc_ yeah, thanks for catching that
[14:33] <Cheezy> Hey guys, I am having alot of trouble with my webcam microphone on my laptop being reconginzed
[14:37] <esing2> Is there a way to google through my unity dash?
[14:40] <mathi> fidel, do you know if I should specify TCP or UDP ?
[14:42] <nathaneltitane> i am configuring gdm and changing it's appearane and need to do so via dbus-launch. how can I capture and reuse the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS that is generated directly rather than copy-pasting it as input to automate the process
[14:43] <bustacap> If I did the command "aplay | arecord" to hear my mic through my speakers, how do I stop it o.O?
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> bustacap, disconnect the mic ?
[14:45] <bustacap> BluesKaj_, I'm trying another way of getting mic through the speakers but I have to stop this one first :/
[14:45] <TJ-> nathaneltitane: see "man 1 dbus-launch" it has an example script showing how to do that
[14:46] <BluesKaj_> bustacap, aplay | arecord stop ?
[14:47] <TJ-> bustacap: In pulseaudio, use module-loopback to monitor inputs
[14:48] <TJ-> bustacap: see http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules#module-loopback
[14:49] <nathaneltitane> TJ: thanks
[14:51] <ctrlfreqs> I miss Gnome
[14:52] <Cong> but you don't want it back right?
[14:52] <BluesKaj_> bustacap,  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/aplay.1.html
[14:52] <ctrlfreqs> No, it's time to move on. I always try to not get stuck to the way something works
[14:53] <ctrlfreqs> Change happens
[14:53] <bkc_> ctrlfreqs: but seriously... unity... -.-
[14:53] <Cong> two bars, one on top, one on bottom, stuff in the corners, menu top left corner, icons next to that
[14:53] <bkc_> to much bling...
[14:54] <ctrlfreqs> Yeah
[14:54] <ctrlfreqs> I agree
[14:54] <bkc_> and that's why I moved on to arch...
[14:56] <Bundgaard> Heya peeps! I'm having trouble getting my jack-speakers working, they're playing at rediculously low volume
[14:57] <Bundgaard> I've tried googleing arounf for an hour without any luck, anyone here got a shot?
[14:57] <bkc_> Bundgaard: tried raising the volume? :P
[14:57] <Bundgaard> yes :P
[14:57] <yougg> ...or changing the cable
[14:57] <Bundgaard> to a point where touching the jack makes my ears bleed
[14:57] <Bundgaard> cable isn't faulty, works on windows
[14:58] <Calinou> bkc_, arch sucks. :P
[14:58] <Calinou> tried installing it, *it is not worth it*
[14:58] <Bundgaard> even plays louder connected to my phone
[14:59] <Calinou> check ubuntu's sound settings
[14:59] <Calinou> you never said you looked at the sound settings
[14:59] <bkc_> Calinou: and why is that? :)
[15:00] <Bundgaard> true, but I did :)
[15:00] <Calinou> way too hard to install
[15:00] <Calinou> buggy
[15:00] <Bundgaard> says I'm playing through headphones, and at 100%
[15:00] <bkc_> Calinou: nothing wrong with bootstraping and chrooting ^^
[15:00] <Bundgaard> though I'm not sure what that means I guess not? :P
[15:00] <bkc_> Bundgaard: try hooking them up to the lineout...
[15:01] <Bundgaard> ...
[15:01] <Bundgaard> clever
[15:01] <bkc_> Bundgaard: I'm assuming it's an external amplifier anyway?
[15:01] <bkc_> and not head-phones...
[15:01] <bkc_> s/-//
[15:02] <billc> just installed logitech g930 listenin now
[15:02] <Calinou> bkc_, it's still hard :P
[15:02] <bkc_> Calinou: not really :)
[15:02] <GunArm1> i'm trying to set up smtp on my server and I cant grasp the concept of /etc/ssmtp/revaliases, is it supposed to be like root:newaccount@gmail.com:smtp.gmail.com?
[15:02] <mehrdad> how to check to install graphic card?
[15:02] <Calinou> and unstable
[15:02] <bkc_> I prefer the commandline so..
[15:02] <Calinou> mehrdad, elaborate please? what do you want to do?
[15:02] <Calinou> the default drivers provided are fine if you don't want to play games
[15:02] <Calinou> the proprietary/non-free drivers are available in the settings
[15:02] <GunArm1> it doesnt seem to matter what i put in the middle email address part
[15:03] <Calinou> if available
[15:03] <bkc_> mehrdad: what vendor?
[15:03] <bkc_> !nvidia > mehrdad
[15:03] <bkc_> !amd | mehrdad
[15:03] <bkc_> !ati | mehrdad
[15:03]  * Calinou slaps ubottu for not having "amd"
[15:03] <mehrdad> bkc_:intel
[15:04] <bkc_> crappy outdated bot -.-
[15:04] <bkc_> !intel | mehrdad
[15:04] <bkc_> !gma | mehrdad
[15:04] <joelio> Grr, whoever is the maintaner for flashplugin-installer needs to understand that there are people that work behind proxies.. AT LEAST HONOUR THE BLOODY ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE FOR HTTP_PROXY!!!
[15:04] <bkc_> !mesa | mehrdad
[15:04] <mehrdad> bkc_: intel
[15:04] <tsimpson> !botabuse > bkc_
[15:04] <bkc_> I seriously hate that bot...
[15:04] <GunArm1> lolol
[15:04] <GunArm1> he lovvees you
[15:05] <bkc_> GunArm1: not really...
[15:05] <bkc_> mehrdad: what model?
[15:06] <joelio> Good to see this bug has been taken seriosuly for the past 3+ years - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/362970
[15:06] <joelio> grrr
[15:06] <Calinou> joelio, wait, people use proxies?
[15:06] <Calinou> don't yelol
[15:06] <Calinou> yell*
[15:06] <Calinou> also, isn't that thing non-free?
[15:06] <mehrdad> bkc_: i think 4500 s
[15:06]  * Calinou pokes adobe CEO
[15:06] <mehrdad> bkc_: i think 4500 series
[15:06] <giulio> ciao
[15:06] <bkc_> mehrdad: so, a Core i3/5/7 then...
[15:07] <mehrdad> bkc_: old model
[15:07] <joelio> Calinou: yea, there's a standard http_proxy env var that is just ignored in the debian package that downloads the tarball
[15:07] <mehrdad> bkc_: dual core
[15:07] <joelio> so breaks on all our machines
[15:07] <bkc_> mehrdad: then just use the provided mesa-driver... already installed and active
[15:08] <bkc_> joelio: install from source then?
[15:08] <mehrdad> bkc_: how to check to install or not?
[15:08] <Bisu[Shield]> HELP: how do I change font color in a windows that is not in focus?Eclipse have white text on white background when I select a different panel.
[15:08] <bkc_> mehrdad: it is already installed...
[15:08] <bkc_> lsmod | grep intel
[15:09] <mehrdad> bkc_: no manual
[15:09] <joelio> bkc_: or just fix the debian package
[15:09] <bkc_> mehrdad: there's no manual install for the mesa-driver... it's *pre-installed*
[15:09] <newlinuxuser> hellooo community am having a problem my resolv.conf empties after reboot
[15:09] <mehrdad> bkc_: no i not to be installed.
[15:10] <bkc_> mehrdad: how do you mean... if it's not installed you've done something extremely wrong...
[15:10] <fidel> newlinuxuser: resolv.conf in 12.04 should contain an info-text about thechange ...aint it?
[15:10] <bkc_> like removed the xserver...
[15:11] <newlinuxuser> idk am new
[15:11] <newlinuxuser> i could not browse someone said ur resolv conf isempty
[15:11] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: resolv.conf is generated on network-change, don't change it
[15:12] <newlinuxuser> but i like opendns
[15:12] <bkc_> open /etc/resolv.conf and add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" without the quotes
[15:12] <bkc_> or whatever dns-server you wanna use...
[15:12] <newlinuxuser> yaa i did but after reboot empty resolv.conf have to change it again
[15:13] <dr_willis> use the network manager.. not editing resolv.conf
[15:13] <xangua> bkc_: you can set the dns in the gnome network manager
[15:13] <newlinuxuser> did both
[15:13] <newlinuxuser> did change via nm after reboot empty resolv.conf cannot browse edit resolv agian i need permanent solution
[15:14] <newlinuxuser> how to fix this peranently
[15:14] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: of course it gets erased on reboot... it's auto-generated by network-manager...
[15:14] <dr_willis> pastebin your current resolv.conf
[15:14] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: try setting it up in network-manager
[15:15] <newlinuxuser> nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
[15:15] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, I have 2 seperate connections(both to the same isp) in nm and each has a different DNS
[15:15] <fidel> newlinuxuser: /etc/resolv.conf contains a comment about the chance. consider reading the comments in conf- files in  general - as they are supposed to help us users. at that point you have afaik several ways to handle that. you could either use network-manager - or define a nameserver in your interfaces file ...or even go the really ugly way and try to prevent the rewriting of /etc/resolv.conf ...which sounds likethe badest idea of all three. maybe anyone ...
[15:15] <hansz> Hey. When I am running a python script I have written, it uses only one cpu. I do not know how to program multi-threaded programs. Is there any other way to let a few processors work together on my script, to acclerate running times? Tried taskset(1), but couldn't make it work.
[15:15] <fidel> ... else has option 4?
[15:15] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: that should work...
[15:16] <xangua> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ if you hardly wanna 'edit conf files' instead of use the gnome network manager; just remember use gksu with gedit or an graphic app newlinuxuser
[15:16] <bkc_> xangua: or use the terminal
[15:17] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, is that what your trying to acheive?
[15:17] <newlinuxuser> yaa
[15:17] <tsimpson> hansz: your script needs to be written to use multiple threads, it's not auto-magic
[15:18] <newlinuxuser> i mean i try to change the dns via network manager but after reboot empty resolv.conf no browse what to do
[15:18] <alecb> just got a new t430 and I'm having trouble connecting to public wifi networks (which work fine in windows), although I can connect to my own personal wifi. any ideas?
[15:18] <aristidesfl> hi
[15:18] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, so in nm tell it to only take IP address from connection1 (for example)
[15:18] <hansz> tsimpson: I see... thanks!
[15:19] <CarlFK> hansz: you should probably watch  http://pyvideo.org/video/353/pycon-2010--understanding-the-python-gil---82
[15:19] <newlinuxuser> i have change it in ipv4
[15:19] <aristidesfl> I've installed dropbox via cmd line, and linked the computer, but the status on the computer keeps saying: Waiting to be linked to an account...
[15:19] <aristidesfl> 12.04
[15:19] <aristidesfl> 64bit
[15:20] <newlinuxuser> Honeymoon couple "begged for their lives"
[15:20] <bkc_> aristidesfl: the cli-linking is broken, you need to use the graphical interface to link the computer...
[15:20] <aristidesfl> bkc_ I don't have a graphical interface
[15:21] <newlinuxuser> ok am rebooting let me see did the sol i try work or not
[15:21] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, in IPv4  choose     (automatic ppp address only)  and stick in your desired DNS below that
[15:21] <kid_icarus> so my new job wants to buy me a new laptop and I was wondering if anyone had suggetstions?
[15:21] <kid_icarus> everyone there is on apple, and I don't want a macbook pro
[15:21] <aristidesfl> macbook air
[15:22] <kid_icarus> do apple products work well with ubuntu?
[15:22] <dr_willis> #hardware
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: well, never got that to work, the cli-linking gives you a link that you should open to link the computer, but the link never works...
[15:22] <aristidesfl> bkc_ the link is working
[15:22] <deadmund> kid_icarus: actually yes.  Because the apple products are common and not fractured into a billion types like 'windows laptops'
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: apparently not ;)
[15:22] <aristidesfl> on dropbox.com the computer appears as linked
[15:22] <dr_willis> kid_icarus:  you can get ubuntu preinstalled laptops
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: still need to setup the default-path and so on...
[15:23] <MSU> kid_icarus: I've personally never had any problems getting ubuntu to work on my apple products
[15:23] <MSU> kid_icarus: I will say getting a triple booting system was a headache right up until I gave up on it.
[15:23] <GreenHide> can anyone tell me how to save a prerecorded ustream movie in Ubuntu
[15:23] <dr_willis> i see a lot of apple questions in herr.. but it could just be user issues. ')
[15:23] <kid_icarus> ok, well that's good to know :)
[15:24] <kid_icarus> I always just kind of assumed that they wouldn't play nice
[15:24] <MSU> kid_icarus: You trying to install it on a computer you already have or something?
[15:25] <kid_icarus> MSU: No, my new job is asking me what kind of laptop I'd like
[15:25] <kid_icarus> MSU: They're all mac people, but said I could get anything I'd liek
[15:25] <tarwich1> kid_icarus: I'm late in the game. Are you planning on using bootcamp? I'm running a few Mac-based bootcamped ubuntu installs
[15:25] <dr_willis> system76 ultrabook  :)
[15:26] <kid_icarus> I do web development, so having lots of ram and a decently sized ssd are important to me
[15:27] <aristidesfl> kid_icarus get a macbook air 13 with 8gb of ram and 256SSD
[15:27] <MSU> kid_icarus: Nifty, I'd do a quick google search and check for any rampant issues with the model you're planning on getting, but by and large it works pretty well. OSX isn't so bad either for dual-booting, you can get Windows on there also, it'll prbly be easier for you with a fresh computer too.
[15:27] <aristidesfl> or 512GB, since they are paying
[15:27] <mattt_> Anyone having issues with dpkg hanging on man-db?
[15:28] <aristidesfl> kid_icarus +1 thunderbolt 27' display
[15:28] <vkas> hi
[15:29] <dr_willis> hellos
[15:29] <tarwich1> The macs I run at my office hold ubuntu well, but the Ubuntu installer has a habit of wiping out the Mac MBR. Also it's a pain to get the hardware mapped, but I've done it. This will help a ton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[15:30] <vkas> can somebody help me with turning off the automounting of ntfs partitions
[15:30] <esing> What is Grub's font by standard?
[15:30] <sgt-hagger> Hey guys, I was here before after losing access to Windows after installing. Some people said it'd be easier to revert ubuntu to whatever system windows was using (mbr, and/or bios-emulation with the mobo). rather than the other way around
[15:30] <vkas> here is fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202838/
[15:30] <sgt-hagger> any idea how I might do this?
[15:31] <GreenHide> vkas, which one do you want to stop auto mounting?
[15:31] <vkas> all
[15:34] <alecb> bump? anyone have any ideas on the t430 wifi problems?
[15:34] <kid_icarus> thanks for the advice everyone! much appreciated :)
[15:35] <GreenHide> vkas, here you go!     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202852/
[15:35] <manisabri> I use 12.04 64 to run a xp guest on vmware , the problem is the xp only boots one time ,the next times it stops in the microsoft flag screen, any ideas?
[15:36] <vkas> GreenHide: Ah, thanks!
[15:36] <GreenHide> vkas, np
[15:36] <nannes> !ping
[15:38] <GreenHide> can anyone suggest a program that will allow me to save swf files from ustream (not live streams) in Ubuntu
[15:40] <SimonPHOENIX> hello
[15:41] <SimonPHOENIX> i need help to connect HuaWei e398
[15:41] <vkas> GreenHide: um, I have a question... all of the entries in fstab file were mounted during startup, so if i put a # in the beginning of a line and comment it out, it would not be mounted. Right?
[15:42] <joelio> vkas: yes, it won't be mounted if it's hashed out
[15:42] <kid_icarus> system76 gazelle professional with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD.... I'll take it!
[15:43] <GreenHide> vkas, yes   (did you do a reboot?)
[15:44] <sapharoth> SimonPHOENIX, whats your problem?
[15:44] <vkas> GreenHide: ok, no i trust your advice :) so there is no need to reboot now
[15:45] <SimonPHOENIX> sapharoth, i can not connect the modem
[15:45] <SimonPHOENIX> ubuntu can not see the modem
[15:45] <sapharoth> have you tried the nm-connection-editor command
[15:46] <GreenHide> vkas, ok   the ntfs partitions (or the USB drives  which is what the fstab entrys suggests) will not be mounted at the next reboot
[15:46] <vkas> GreenHide: I believe
[15:48] <Mr_Kaizer> Good afternoon, I'm having some trouble getting java working in Chromium on my Xubuntu 12.04 netbook.
[15:48] <sapharoth> SimonPHOENIX, the nm-connection-editor command opens the Network-Manager. use it to add your device to the Network. I think that'll work
[15:49] <sapharoth> Mr_Kaizer, are you experiencing missing built-ins??
[15:49] <vkas> thanks for the help everyone; leaving
[15:49] <Mr_Kaizer> sapharoth: I am experiencing the java plugin missing altogether.
[15:52] <nvictor> hey guys
[15:53] <Mr_Kaizer> I just spent over an hour getting Sun Java installed (OpenJDK doesn't work with my bank's e-banking service). It's installed on the computer, but not as a plugin in chromium. I have tried making a...symbolic link I think it's called (?), but that didn't work. So now I'm out of ideas.
[15:54] <Bennn> I'm using kubuntu 11.10. I just did some updates to Muon, it said 'package broken' or something similar, now update manager, software manager, and package manager are gone.
[15:54] <Mr_Kaizer> Bennn: Completely gone as in you can't find them, or gone as in broken?
[15:55] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer. As in, I can't find them. They're not in the menu anymore. I tried reaching Muon though the Alt+f2 box.
[15:57] <Bennn> I'm not sure how to role back the update.
[15:57] <nathaneltitane> TJ i've tried the sample script but it still does not produce the desired effect when bundled to the gsettings commands i am trying to run
[15:57] <tykim> i just installed ubuntu it works really well and it's easy for what i have to do
[15:57] <tykim> but the only problem is that internet is slow
[15:58] <Bennn> ps -e | grep muon shows nothing
[15:58] <tykim> im sure my internet is really fast
[15:58] <tykim> how can i fix it?
[15:59] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:00] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer. As in, I can't find them. They're not in the menu anymore. I tried reaching Muon though the Alt+f2 box.
[16:01] <Mr_Kaizer> Bennn: And you can't start them via the terminal, right?
[16:01] <cristian_c> I've installed easy-deb with virtualenv, but when I try to check (with yolk -l command) the applications installed in the virtual environment, there is not easydeb. Instead, there are some applications installed outside the virtual environment, not inside. Why?
[16:02] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer: I tried though the Alt-f2 box. How do you start them from terminal?
[16:02] <bkc_> cristian_c: and this is related to ubuntu how? :)
[16:03] <csdva> anonymous
[16:03] <bkc_> !anon
[16:03] <cristian_c> I've read that the problem could be due to a yolkc package not installed in the virtual environment. I've installed it inside the virtual environment, but nothing is changed :(
[16:03] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:03] <bkc_> blaah... I hate this bot >.<
[16:04] <tking> hi
[16:04] <cristian_c> bkc_, virtualenv is an ubuntu package
[16:04] <tking> guys, i noticed if i set 10mins lock my laptop doesn't lock after 10mins sometimes
[16:04] <bud> quit
[16:05] <bkc_> tking: standard... something one learns to live with ^^
[16:05] <alecb> bump, any ideas for the t430 wifi problems?
[16:06] <cristian_c> bkc_, do you have any ideas to solve the problem?
[16:06] <{KE}Cron> testing
[16:06] <Pici> cristian_c: perhaps #python would be a more appropriate place to ask.
[16:06] <cristian_c> Pici, ok
[16:06] <cristian_c> :)
[16:07] <bkc_> alecb: what driver is it?
[16:07] <bkc_> model
[16:08] <bkc_> alecb: also, what isn't working?
[16:08] <alecb> bkc_: my lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200740/
[16:09] <Hung> Hi Everyone
[16:09] <alecb> bkc_: can't connect to public networks (which work fine in windows, which I'm on now), although I can use mine and a friend's personal wifi
[16:09] <Hung> I am newbie
[16:09] <bkc_> alecb: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_11b/g/n_Wireless_LAN_Mini-PCI_Express_Adapter_II
[16:09] <Hung> is this room for question relating for Ubuntu ?
[16:10] <bkc_> Hung: yes
[16:10] <nicola> ciao
[16:10] <Hung> hi BKC
[16:10] <bkc_> " Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[16:10] <bkc_> o/
[16:10] <Hung> BKC, I have a question
[16:11] <bkc_> shoot
[16:11] <tziemann> hello
[16:11] <angeyeux> hi everyone,,im newbie in linux..now im trying bodhi linux..would you help give me some basic tutorial?
[16:11] <lolek> question, i'm trying to make connection to the phone through bluetooth, but i've got some problems. Well i can create connection, i can send files to the phone, and that's all :/ i can't make the connection active so i cannot use gnome-phone-manager... which gave: CAn't connect connection refused... any idea? i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[16:12] <Hung> My terminal's font window text is a bit too big, how can i make it smaller ?
[16:12] <lolek> Hung: edit -> profiles, select profile, click "edit"
[16:13] <Hung> thank you lolek
[16:13] <lolek> Hung: no problem 5 EUR :>
[16:13] <smftre> Ubuntu seems to be losing market share, can this be try? http://sharer.co/share/78474882
[16:14] <martian> I just installed nautilus in xubuntu 12.04 and wish to change some advanced settings. I installed gconf-editor, but there is no nautilus node in there. Any suggestions?
[16:14] <lolek> smftre: isn't mint based on ubuntu ?
[16:14] <bkc_> smftre: I'd say "Unity did it!" ^^
[16:14] <martian> ^^
[16:14] <smftre> @lolek, I think more debian as ubuntu is?
[16:14] <bkc_> lolek: yes, but with gnome-shell instead of unity...
[16:14] <bkc_> smftre: nope... ubuntu-deriv...
[16:14] <lolek> hmm
[16:15] <lolek> mint is with gnome-shell ?
[16:15] <auronandace> !ot
[16:15] <lolek> o.O
[16:15] <lolek> auronandace: if You didn't notice, we're speaking about ubuntu market share... and we want to figure out why it's losing market... so i don't see any ot here...
[16:16] <bazhang> lolek, wrong place for it
[16:16] <Pici> auronandace: This isn't a discussion channel. Its a support channel.
[16:16] <bkc_> lolek: still not related to *support* ^^
[16:16] <auronandace> lolek: if you didn't notice this is the support channel
[16:16] <Pici> auronandace: ... mistab, I know you knew that.
[16:16] <bazhang> smftre, please dont post here
[16:16] <smftre> np, I will discuss offtopic then?
[16:17] <lolek> auronandace: ok then i can't shrink sripting shell window from mysql-workbench the prblem occurs only in gnome-shell no problem with unity, on ubuntu 12.04/amd64 ... any idea?
[16:17] <lolek> s/sripting/scripting
[16:18] <alecb> bkc_: okay, so the latest ubuntu has a 3.0+ kernel and would have the rtlwifi/rtl8192se driver? so I should try the linux driver from realtek or ndiswrapper?
[16:18] <auronandace> lolek: i've never used gnome-shell so i can't help you
[16:19] <lolek> auronandace: ok, so maybe this one: question, i'm trying to make connection to the phone through bluetooth, but i've got some problems. Well i can create connection, i can send files to the phone, and that's all :/ i can't make the connection active so i cannot use gnome-phone-manager... which gave: CAn't connect connection refused... any idea? i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[16:20] <auronandace> lolek: what do you mean by make the connection active?
[16:20] <bkc_> alecb: linux-driver from realtek... *never* use ndiswrapper -.-
[16:20] <auronandace> lolek: pairing the device?
[16:20] <lolek> auronandace: give me several minutes ... got dinner know. be back soon
[16:21] <alecb> bkc_: alright, I'll see if that helps
[16:21] <Punisher> hi, i have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my tablet. it is an dell latitude st with an intel atom z670 and intel gma 600. ubuntu 12.04 works. all kernels below 3.3 are booting. but the new one are going black short after grub
[16:21] <auronandace> !12.10 | Punisher
[16:23] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[16:23] <Punisher> hm ok but testing beta ob different hardware is important. try to find bugs before the final relase ?
[16:24] <Punisher> but thanks i try it in #ubuntu+1
[16:28] <Apra_> hi
[16:29] <lolek> auronandace: ok
[16:31] <lolek> auronandace: go to bluetooth settings, pick one device from the list on the left, then on the right window, change the switch to "1"... now the device is... active/connected... can't say what is the state, cause i don't have any problems with sending files from lappie to phone i also doesn't have any problems streaming music through bt gateway
[16:31] <chisholm> What's a good application to use to build a debian package?
[16:35] <oldwzd> chrisward: get the sources and compile it? or even chekc if there is an .ebuild around?
[16:36] <oldwzd> chrisward: bad nickcomplete
[16:36] <oldwzd> chisholm: se 2 lines up..
[16:37] <oldwzd> ghah think you should ignore me, as im in wrong channel speaking xD
[16:37] <chisholm> oldwzd: I'm trying to put together a debian package for a cmake project I'm working on
[16:38] <tsimpson> !packaging | chisholm
[16:38] <tsimpson> there are some guides etc in those links
[16:39] <in_> hey
[16:39] <in_> hi
[16:40] <chisholm> tsimpson, oldwzd: I'm not looking to become an expert debian package maintainer, just looking to slap something together that will check for dependancies and place the header files in /usr/include and the lib in /usr/lib.
[16:40] <in_> I need to connect to a broadband via terminal command
[16:40] <in_> any help would be appreciated
[16:40] <tsimpson> chisholm: then you need to start with the basics of packaging
[16:41] <chisholm> tsimpson: ok, thanks
[16:41] <tsimpson> chisholm: if the project already has a build system, then look at the checkinstall package, but that's strictly for locally built stuff
[16:45] <chisholm> tsimpson: checkinstall isn't quite what I'm looking for but looks like something that's nice to know about.
[16:52] <nvictor> hey guys, is there a way to find a specific boot sequence that got stuck?
[16:54] <bkc_> nvictor: bootchart?
[16:54] <bkc_> systemd?
[16:54] <bkc_> lots of ways to check that
[16:54] <dragonslay> bkc_: would the log files work?
[16:54] <nvictor> ah ok, let me have a look at them
[16:54] <bkc_> sure...
[16:55] <nvictor> dragonslay, the logs
[16:55] <nvictor> that's where i check, but couldn't find the one i am looking for
[16:55] <bkc_> dmesg.log and kernel.log
[16:55] <nvictor> i wonder if they get deleted?
[16:55] <bkc_> they get rotated every now and then
[16:55] <bkc_> and deleted when piss-old...
[16:55] <nvictor> it's pretty recent
[16:56] <bkc_> very old*
[16:56] <nvictor> here's the issue
[16:56] <GunArm1> do you have to reboot or do some command to make crontab -e changes take effect?
[16:56] <nvictor> a reboot happened on a server instance like 2 or 3 days ago
[16:56] <bkc_> server? then I'd guess your logs have been rotated a couple of times already ^^
[16:57] <dragonslay> GunArm1: if you've edited the crontab correctly, it'll be saved in main crontab file
[16:57] <R_Macy> Hey guys how do you get the browser information out of this '08:26:52.737609 IP 199.59.149.232.80 > 10.0.2.15.1338: Flags [.], seq 2159:3579, ack 3363, win 65535, length 1420'
[16:57] <R_Macy> Im doing a CTF
[16:57] <jrib> GunArm1: no, you shouldn't have to do anything other than save the file
[16:57] <bekks> R_Macy: Whats a "CTF"?
[16:57] <GunArm1> ok thanks
[16:57] <bkc_> R_Macy: related to ubuntu how?
[16:57] <bkc_> bekks: "Capture The Flag!" :D
[16:58] <bekks> bkc_: :D
[16:58] <tsimpson> R_Macy: you don't, that's the TCP header, the User-Agent header is in the message itself
[16:58] <nvictor> bkc_: the instance got stuck because of a XFS volume and entered user input mode. i am trying to see exactly what happened and how we can prevent it from happening. i already removed the mount point from fstab (that fixed the booting issue)
[16:58] <grimeton> hi
[16:58] <grimeton> where does nss_ldap expect to find it's configuration file? /etc/ldap.conf?
[16:59]  * NoFace hi ppl.!.
[17:00] <R_Macy> tsimpson: it's a pcap file
[17:00] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[17:00] <R_Macy> CTF is capture the flag
[17:00] <bekks> R_Macy: How is that related to Ubuntu at all?
[17:01] <R_Macy> bekks tcpdump is a linux command, ubuntu is linux, and this channel is generally knowledgable
[17:01] <bkc_> nvictor: there are a few fstab-flags and mkinitcpio-flags you can play around with that should fix that issue... thou not sure what actually to change :(
[17:01] <bekks> R_Macy: This is a Ubuntu support channel.
[17:02] <bkc_> nvictor: did it a couple of years ago on debian :)
[17:02] <R_Macy> bekks I need support figuring out how to get the browser used form a pcap file
[17:02] <dragonslay> bkc_: can i specifically sort out security updates in apt-get?
[17:02] <bkc_> R_Macy: goto #linux and ask
[17:02] <bkc_> dragonslay: sure...
[17:03] <Kishi> Hello
[17:03] <kaczor> Hi
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, oh you had that issue before? as i kinda expected i can find the exact lines in the logs :/
[17:03] <bkc_> dragonslay: apt-get update,  apt-get upgrade *cancel*, read list, sudo apt-get install <packages>
[17:03] <Kishi> I am having some problems with running Skype on Kubuntu. It worked earlier, but stopped working after trying to synchronize it with Kopete, I thinkn
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, i didn't expect press S to continue being logged...
[17:03] <Kishi> I've purged and reinstalled it several times now
[17:03] <Kishi> Even purged Kopete, too
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, only thing i remember...
[17:03] <Kishi> It still doesn't seem to work
[17:04] <Kishi> It appears that purging does leave some software settings on my system
[17:04] <bkc_> nvictor: Not with XFS, but NFS :) and that is the beutty of linux ;)
[17:04] <Kishi> I thought it was supposed to remove everything
[17:04] <bekks> Kishi: configurations in ~/whatever arent affected by purging software.
[17:04] <nvictor> bkc_: haha i hear you :)
[17:05] <nvictor> bkc_: ok found the exact lines online "continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[17:05] <S0LIDUS> How can I check the speed of my network interface from the terminal? e.g 1Gbe... Thanks in advance!
[17:05] <dragonslay> bkc_: what's the *cancel* do in the command?
[17:05] <bekks> S0LIDUS: ethtool eth0
[17:05] <Kishi> bekks: Then I'd be grateful to learn how to  remove the configurations as well.
[17:05] <S0LIDUS> bekks, Thanks :)
[17:05] <nvictor> oh there's a XFS channel :)
[17:05] <bekks> dragonslay: ctlr+c
[17:05] <Kishi> Because as I said, it worked earlier, before I tried to sync it with Kopete
[17:06] <bekks> Kishi: By deleting them in your file browser, e.g.
[17:06] <S0LIDUS> bekks, what about a wireless interface e.g wlan0
[17:06] <dragonslay> bekks: and "read list" only is supposed to read from stdin.. ?
[17:07] <bekks> S0LIDUS: ethtool wlan0 ... and on wifi, you'll never have 1GbE :)
[17:07] <S0LIDUS> I know, just wanted to get speed info, thanks though :)
[17:07] <bekks> dragonslay: "read list" is supposed to read the list that is displayed on your screen.
[17:07] <Kishi> bekks: I've tried locating skype-related stuff in my console, but everything's gone. Well, there is some stuff in akonadi  and something in /usr/share/mime/inode
[17:07] <S0LIDUS> bekks, It says no data available?
[17:08] <Kishi> But I think It was there before
[17:08] <bekks> S0LIDUS: Then you cant use ethtool on wifi interfaces. Use iwconfig instead.
[17:08] <nvictor> ah great
[17:08] <dragonslay> bekks: i don't get how that command only installs security updates
[17:09] <S0LIDUS> bekks, Awesome thanks mate...
[17:09] <bekks> dragonslay: It involves reading the list and understanding which packages are going to be updated.
[17:11] <dragonslay> bekks: why is google-chrome still in the update list?
[17:12] <bekks> dragonslay: Because either you still have it installed or it is pulled in by some other software you still have installed.
[17:13] <dragonslay> bekks: i'm only trying to update the security patches..
[17:15] <Kishi> That's it, I've removed everything
[17:15] <Kishi> And it still won't work
[17:16] <Kishi> At least everything I was able to find
[17:16] <PrAsHaNt> http://pastebin.com/sbDReR3t
[17:16] <PrAsHaNt> can anybody please help me with this?
[17:17] <rapstudio> what are the software to run a 'c' program on ubuntu
[17:18] <theadmin> rapstudio: gcc is the most popular C compiler.
[17:18] <bekks> rapstudio: You need to compile your c sourcecode first.
[17:18] <deadmund> rapstudio: c programs are compiled to native code.  You just run it.
[17:18] <unperson> I want to upgrade from 10.04.4 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS.  Can I do this easily using a 12.04.1 alternate CD or is that likely to be problematic (and I'd be better off just doing the upgrade over the network)?
[17:18] <bekks> unperson: You dont need a cd at all.-
[17:19] <Kishi> I'd gladly find another VoIP[ communicator, preferably a free one, but nobody uses anything else, so... -_-
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: do you have a separate /home partition?
[17:19] <PrAsHaNt> how to uninstall all the graphics driver ?
[17:19] <nvictor> it is strange though
[17:19] <unperson> deadmund, Yes, why?
[17:19] <nvictor> the boot issue happened recently and i can't find it in any log
[17:19] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: makes using the CD to upgrade possible (without erasing you personal data)
[17:19] <unperson> bekks, But the question is can I do it using the alternate CD?
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: But you'll have to do a manual partition during install time using the CD.
[17:20] <zetheroo> how do I disable this annoying thing that frequently pops up and wants to report issues ?
[17:21] <unperson> deadmund, Okay. The alternate CD is designed to be used for upgrades, though.  Are you saying that to do the LTS->LTS upgrade I have to basically just do it as a fresh install?
[17:21] <hfic> zetheroo, fix the issues ?
[17:21] <zetheroo> hfic: I would rather just disable the feature
[17:21] <deadmund> unperson: the alternative CD is not designed for upgrades necessarily. It is designed to be small and pull info from the network during install time.
[17:22] <unperson> bekks, The advantage being that I can then use the CD on multiple systems I want to upgrade.
[17:22] <deadmund> unperson: Using any CD to upgrade is doing a fresh install (but you don't erase your /home partition)
[17:22] <hfic> zetheroo, way too be lazy :)
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: No. Just do a "do-release-upgrade" after a backup of your box.
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: Thats no advantage, since you will have to install all further updates too.
[17:22] <deadmund> unperson: You can update over the network on multiple systems you want to upgrade. (no CD necessary)
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: Just set up an apt-proxy.
[17:23] <zetheroo> hfic: ok, in that case ... is there a log of all the errors that were reported so I can go over them?
[17:23] <deadmund> Plus the alternative CD has almost nothing on it.  You can only install using it by pulling stuff from network during install time
[17:23] <cleekleywinslow> sudo rm -rf /*
[17:23] <unperson> deadmund, I don't mean it was designed that that sole purpose, but it is one of the options presented at the menu when you boot from that CD.  Also it is recognized by the package manager if you plug it in to a running Ubuntu system.
[17:23] <deadmund> !danger
[17:23] <deadmund> cleekleywinslow: what the heck?
[17:23] <rapstudio> what are the software to run a 'c' program on ubuntu
[17:23] <bekks> rapstudio: We just told you.
[17:23] <hfic> zetheroo, why don't you explain what your issues are and maybe pastebin some configs
[17:24] <unperson> deadmund, But I will have to either download all the info over and over again or else go through the trouble of setting up a local repo (which I've never done).
[17:24] <deadmund> unperson: But there are few packages on it so if you use it to upgrade you will be pulling everything over the network.
[17:24] <tziemann> cleekleywinslow, hello
[17:24] <deadmund> unperson: what you said most recently is true
[17:24]  * tziemann slaps cleekleywinslow in the face with a rotted fish
[17:24] <cman> oh yea
[17:24]  * tziemann slaps cleekleywinslow in the face with erik
[17:25] <zetheroo> hfic: if I could get to the logs I could see what the issues actually are ... most of the time I just hit the Report or Cancel button ... I don't bother to look at the error details
[17:25] <tziemann> cman was lame anyways
[17:25] <roasted> so, riddle me this. my server's root drive is 100% maxed, 0 bytes remaining. Yet when I run ncdu (advanced program to tell me what's using space) the largest directory is my home dir @ 18gb. Everything below it is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller and easily amounts to maybe 30gb total. Yet this is a 160GB drive... MAXED?????
[17:25] <hfic> zetheroo, if you have no details of the errors which your seeing, nobody can help you troubleshoot. /var/log is where your logs are unless the log is application specific and it's moved in the configuration.
[17:26] <deadmund> roasted: looked in the trash?  What is telling you the root drive is 100% maxed?  Do you have a separate /home partition?
[17:26] <zetheroo> hfic: so this nifty feature which alerts you of errors in the system and wants to send a report to HQ has no log of it's own?
[17:27] <unperson> deadmund, The pool directory on the alternate CD has 650 MB of package files.  That seems non-negligible to me.
[17:27] <hfic> zetheroo, normally the log is shown in 'error details' when the popup comes up. I'm not really sure what featured alerting system your referring to directly.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: the default one in Ubuntu 12.04 ...
[17:28] <bekks> unperson: Set up an apt-proxy and use the update mechanism over network.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: I definitely did not install it
[17:28] <roasted> deadmund: I have no separate home partition. I do have a separate /media/NAS drive tho (160GB root, 2x500GB /media/NAS Raid1). I do have a script removing xsession-errors daily because it was maxing out my hard drive via rm -r .xsession-errors.... but its STILL Happening.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: all the Ubuntu machines in my household with 12.04 have this
[17:28] <roasted> deadmund: would rm -r put things in trash?
[17:28] <deadmund> unperson: What is the name of the ISO you downloaded?
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: is there a name for this feature?
[17:28] <rapstudio> thanks
[17:28] <bekks> rapstudio: No.
[17:29] <zetheroo> hfic: aha ... looks like it's Apport
[17:29] <deadmund> unperson: I'm looking at the Ubuntu site and I think we're using the word 'alternate' differently from one another.  They have a bunch of stuff referring to 'alternative downloads' meaning torrents and such.  There is something that used to be referred to as the 'alternate-installer' which is text-only and is much smaller and does not contain many packages.
[17:30] <deadmund> roasted: rm -r does not put things in trash
[17:30] <deadmund> roasted: what is telling you the drive is maxed?
[17:30] <hfic> zetheroo, 12.04 instructions can be found here. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu/
[17:30] <deadmund> unperson: additionally, 12.10 does not appear to have an alternate CD
[17:30] <roasted> deadmund: well, apache stopped working, VNC won't work, and I SSH'd in and ran "df" and / is 100%
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: run ncdu in /
[17:31] <roasted> deadmund: I did
[17:31] <unperson> deadmund, I am referring to the latter, the "alternate CD" ISO image offered with each release.
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: mmmm
[17:31] <roasted> deadmund: the largest thing it came back with is /home @ 18GB. Everything else was significantly smaller.
[17:31] <bekks> roasted: So your filesystem "/" is maxed out - only.
[17:31] <roasted> bekks: / is 100%, yes.
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: I'm not sure.
[17:32] <unperson> deadmund, Maybe the ISOs only appear after release?  In any case, I'm concerned with 12.04.1.
[17:32] <roasted> bekks: /dev/md0 is 59% (which is /media/NAS)
[17:32] <deadmund> 12.10 doesn't have a alternate listed here: http://mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net/ubuntu-releases/12.10/
[17:32] <Pici> roasted: did you run ncdu with sudo?
[17:32] <deadmund> unperson: ^^
[17:32] <nsaquatics> I have a small situation that I'm hoping you guy's can help me with. I copied my old server disk using dd to a new mirrored raid array. Problem is it won't boot to the array. In order to boot I have to leave the old disk in and boot from that. What needs to be done to get it to boot from the Array?
[17:32] <bekks> unperson: Concerned about what?
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: no... *dupr durp*
[17:32] <akasha> а по русски кто нибудь здесь говорит?
[17:32] <bekks> !ru | akasha
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: err, I forgot, I'm already at the root prompt
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: so "yes"?
[17:32] <deadmund> unperson: but anyway, looking at 12.04 http://mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net/ubuntu-releases/12.04/   But now I see that the alternate CD is very large (like you're saying) so I think I'm wrong.
[17:33] <deadmund> :P
[17:33] <unperson> bekks, Oh, meaning "interested in".
[17:33] <deadmund> bekks: He only has 1 partition
[17:33] <bekks> unperson: Then just update to 12.04 and you will get the "latest" stuff.
[17:33] <unperson> deadmund, Happens to the best of us.  Sounds like you were describing something like the Debian netboot.  Not sure if Ubuntu has an analog.
[17:33] <auronandace> !mini
[17:34] <deadmund> unperson: So what is your question now?
[17:34] <deadmund> unperson: :)
[17:34] <deadmund> aahhh minimal CD!
[17:34] <deadmund> names names names
[17:34] <unperson> auronandace, Interesting.  Didn't know about that.
[17:35] <roasted> bekks: any last ideas? :(
[17:37] <unperson> deadmund, Oh, well, my question originally was basically that the alternate CD can be used to upgrade from one release to the next.  Is it possible to easily use it to upgrade from one LTS release to the next LTS or is it not really designed for that. bekks has advised against it and using an apt-proxy instead.  I'm still not clear if it's possible.
[17:37] <bekks> roasted: Start cleaning up /var/cache/apt/ and /var/log
[17:37] <roasted> bekks: just rm -ring it?
[17:37] <unperson> deadmund, Er, well, I'm sure it's "possible" but I'm not sure if it's easy to do.
[17:37] <bekks> roasted: After ensuring you dont need it anymore. Dont just delete the entire folders.
[17:37] <vlad_> hello
[17:37] <deadmund> unperson: You should be able to upgrade from one LTS to another.  I am quite certain this is possible using regular apt tools.  I am fairly confident it is possible using CDs
[17:37] <roasted> bekks: /var/cache is only 200MB...
[17:37] <lazialotto> ciao
[17:38] <roasted> bekks: I have about 120GB unallocated for.
[17:38] <vlad_> I am new here. I have a problem with my ubuntu installation on an Asus laptop.
[17:38] <deadmund> unperson: I have not done it so I cannot say if it is easy.  If it is not easy you can just fresh install 12.04 because you have separate /home partitions
[17:38] <user23> I using Transmmision torrent client. I open .torrent file and choose which files to download. Now i need to download remaining files. How to reinitial download to get that notdownloaded files to be downlading.
[17:38] <vlad_> I have a problem with the X  server .
[17:38] <deadmund> user23: right click the torrent in trans, select properties, check the boxes of the files you want to now include
[17:38] <bekks> roasted: Then take a look at du -hs --max-depth=1 / and descend into the "bigger" folders to get an impression where you are wasting space actually.
[17:38] <vlad_> which i think is for the GUI .
[17:39] <deadmund> user23: It should automatically start getting them.
[17:39] <unperson> deadmund, True.  Downside there is re-installing and re-configuring software, of course.
[17:39] <theadmin> user23: Open torrent properties, go to "Files", check the files you want
[17:39] <lazialotto> !list
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: all the per-user software config is stored in /home
[17:39] <vlad_> Who can help me ?
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: but there is still global stuff so...
[17:39] <unperson> deadmund, bekks has also pointed out that some updates will still have to be downloaded even with the alternate CD, which is true.
[17:39] <bekks> vlad_: Describe your problem please.
[17:39] <roasted> bekks: is that command correct? I'm getting warning summarizing conflicts...
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: yes.
[17:40] <unperson> deadmund, Yes.  I usually at least save a copy of /etc
[17:40] <bekks> roasted: Then omit the -s
[17:40] <deadmund> unperson: well then you're good
[17:40] <user23> thanks
[17:40] <vlad_> bekks: I keep getting crashes of the GUI on startup .
[17:40] <vlad_> bekks: It logs me on the terminal
[17:40] <phyrexianslug> @vlad_  What errors are you geting?
[17:41] <nsaquatics> any boot guru's here?
[17:41] <bekks> vlad_: Then take a look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log what happended.
[17:41] <bekks> !ask | nsaquatics
[17:41] <roasted> bekks: says 274G in /... but /media is 251G... which is my separate array. So I would assume taking 274 - 251 would get you the end result of what's on drive "A" (aka, my 160GB hdd)... which is what, 23GB?
[17:41] <vlad_> bekks: OK. thank you. I will tell you what I see.
[17:41] <bekks> roasted: 'Forget about that /media ... /media is not /.
[17:41] <nsaquatics> bekks, already did ask the question, just following up.
[17:42] <roasted> bekks: if that's the case, this shows me nothing different from ncdu.
[17:42] <deadmund> bekks: ... you are familiar with trees right?
[17:42] <roasted> bekks: I have ~23GB allocated for on a maxed 160GB disk. Perhaps I should reboot and see if the disks were whacky?
[17:42] <bekks> deadmund: Yes.
[17:42] <deadmund> bekks: /media is in /
[17:42] <deadmund> how is it not of concern?
[17:42] <bekks> deadmund: He said that he has a / and some /media/NAS whatsoever.
[17:43] <bekks> So we are not interested in /media
[17:43] <deadmund> bekks: oh, separate partition mounted on /media?
[17:43] <deadmund> I see.
[17:43] <roasted> deadmund: /media/NAS is /dev/md0, whcih is 2x500GB mdadm array.
[17:43] <bekks> deadmund: Thats what he said :)
[17:43] <roasted> deadmund: df says /dev/md0 is 59% full, whereas / is 100% full (/dev/sda)
[17:43] <roasted> SDA = the OS itself, root, everything EXCEPT the array.
[17:43] <deadmund> roasted: bekks is right.  ignore the /media/NAS, should not be counting against / being full.  Besides apps not running.  What is causing concern?
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: the fact that apps are not running?
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: You said VNC would not run....
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: my stuff is not running BECAUSE I'm maxed out. This has happened at least six times in the last 3 months.
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: VNC would not run, Apache would not run.
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: what is telling you the cause is a full /  ??
[17:44] <vlad_> bekks: It's a lot of output in the xorg log. And i don't know really what to make out of it >
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: I assume VNC needs to create temp files or cache or something. If the drive is 100% full, there's no room for caching.
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: df
[17:44] <bekks> roasted: Use a pastebin service to show us the output of    du -x --mac-depth=1 / | sort    please
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: just because apps are not running does not mean that / is full
[17:45] <deadmund> roasted: do what bekks said
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: for the 7th time, df says it's full
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: run df in terminal, you'll see what I mean
[17:45] <deadmund> roasted: Use a pastebin service to show us the output of    du -x --mac-depth=1 / | sort    please
[17:45] <deadmund> paste.ubuntu.com
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: no need for an echo of bekks, bro ;)
[17:45] <roasted> already on it
[17:45] <deadmund> :)
[17:46]  * deadmund wants a cracker
[17:46] <vlad_> bekks: Any hint on what to look for ?  Should i paste you somewhere the output ?
[17:46] <bekks> vlad_: Any anomalies, or errors.
[17:46] <roasted> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203125/
[17:46] <bekks> !paste | vlad_
[17:46] <deadmund> what's all that in /usr ?
[17:47] <bekks> Whats all that crap in /home? :D
[17:47] <bekks> Thats far more concerning.
[17:48] <roasted> bekks: that's what I'd like to know.
[17:48] <theadmin> deadmund: /usr is a second-level filesystem hierarchy, meant to be placed on a separate partition from the core system. Mainly, non-boot-critical libraries, apps, so on
[17:48] <deadmund> roasted: stuff in trash?
[17:48] <deadmund> theadmin: I know what it's for! :P
[17:48] <roasted> bekks: a little history about this box... this box does several things, including video surveillance. I have a monitor hooked up to it. When I'm in my office, I turn the monitor on and I play a live mjpg stream so I can see what's going on.
[17:48] <deadmund> I'm curious why roasted's is so big
[17:48] <vlad_> bekks: I have three logs. Xorg.0.log ; xorg.0.log.old ; xorg.failsafe.log ; xorg.failsafe.log.old . Which one should i paste ? Or all of them ?
[17:48] <bekks> roasted: Then run: du --max-depth=1 ~
[17:49] <bekks> vlad_: The latest log.
[17:49] <roasted> bekks: ever since I began doing that, at times my hdd would max out. I ultimately found .xsession-errors was maxing out the hdd space for some reason. So I began croning it rm -r daily.
[17:49] <roasted> bekks: I thought the cron took care of it, because I've been checking it periodically. No issues. Until today...
[17:49] <nsaquatics> theadmin, how would you move the location of that folder, so let's say (/usr), just curious,
[17:50] <theadmin> nsaquatics: Move? You don't really move /usr, you can mount a partition to /usr though
[17:50] <bekks> roasted: We dont even know wether .xsession-errors is the cause of your problem.
[17:50] <roasted> bekks: it was the previous cause of my problem. I wanted that on the table in case it was relevant. Also - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203136/
[17:50] <theadmin> nsaquatics: But, you could just move the contents elsewhere, say /var/usr/ or something, and then make /usr a symlink to the new location.
[17:50] <theadmin> Not sure how well that'd work.
[17:50] <nsaquatics> theadmin, ah and when I mount it it would automatically drop the previous location?
[17:51] <nsaquatics> theadmin, oh.. ok.
[17:51] <vlad_> bekks:  This is the Xorg.0.log . The most recent.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203137/
[17:51] <theadmin> nsaquatics: Well, if you want to move an already existing /usr to a new partition, you make an empty partition, copy everything from /usr over there and then mount that partition to /usr
[17:51] <nsaquatics> theadmin, ok, got it..
[17:52] <theadmin> nsaquatics: Most of the time you configure that during the install process though
[17:53] <daem0n> heyy
[17:54] <daem0n> I cannot find a solution to this:  (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system.
[17:54] <nsaquatics> theadmin, yeah but if your like me in the beginning I was not sure what size to make what. that's why I was curious. Let's say after wards you figure out you screwed up sizing things.
[17:54] <daem0n> error on intallation
[17:54] <daem0n> seems a common problem with no solution
[17:54] <vlad_> blocked
[17:56] <rasterizer> Hi All, I hope some one can help me with an issue i have
[17:56] <phantom_master_1> hi all,
[17:56] <daem0n> all hi
[17:56] <rasterizer> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[17:56] <daem0n> prease help
[17:56] <daem0n> Y U no
[17:56] <daem0n> HELP
[17:56] <rasterizer> accidentally set the file permissoin on / folder to root:root
[17:57] <deadmund> rasterizer: that's fine?
[17:57] <rasterizer> and some of the application and processes not working correctly
[17:57] <rasterizer> evrything under / is set now owned by root:root recursively
[17:58] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[17:58] <rasterizer> Does anyone know how to restore to default ubuntu permissions
[17:58] <rasterizer> I am using command line no gui available
[17:59] <rasterizer> deadmund: do u know a way to fix this?
[17:59] <Darinlh> ouch Rasterizer I thought I had a problem :(
[17:59] <AnDsO> how to set directory index in apache virtualhost
[17:59] <deadmund> rasterizer: Fixing all of them will be hard.  But you can fix a big chunk (your home folder) but doing sudo chown -R <your user name> /home/<your username>
[18:00] <glguy> What is the right place to put startup commands that should run before the network is configured?
[18:00] <rasterizer> i can login as root and sysadmin(i reverted to default permissions for /home/sysadmin)
[18:01] <daem0n> buttholes
[18:01] <rasterizer> deadmund: i got the home folders permissons fixed
[18:01] <rasterizer> but mysql seem to have broken
[18:01] <lattera> can anyone recommend a good xml editor?
[18:01] <deadmund> lattera: gedit
[18:01] <phyrexianslug> Nano?
[18:02] <phyrexianslug>  :P
[18:02] <deadmund> vi
[18:02] <lattera> I need one that supports tag folding
[18:02] <deadmund> maybe ed
[18:02] <tsimpson> kate
[18:02] <deadmund> ed
[18:02] <maxflax> Hi, having problem installing fglrx.. complaining about xorg-video-ab11 not existing
[18:03] <lattera> ah, cool, chrome works, heh
[18:03] <wingnut2626> hi all, is there any graphical software to convert .mov files to .mp4 format?
[18:04] <spoljo> avconv is easy, just specify input file and output file with right file extension , and it will work the magic
[18:04] <wingnut2626> i cant install avconv my ubuntu cannot locate the package
[18:04] <spoljo> use the ffmpeg then
[18:05] <spoljo> its deprecated
[18:05] <spoljo> but you can still get it / or maby you have it alrdy
[18:05] <grandal_prime> can anyone recommend a good network mapping tool.
[18:05] <spoljo> grandal_prime: zenmap
[18:05] <grandal_prime> use to use cheops-ng but there appears to be nothing on that...
[18:05] <Darinlh> anyone happen to know why after a upgrade to LTS my terminal won't open from launcher?
[18:05] <grandal_prime> ok so thats pretty mch th standard now i think...i have zenmap
[18:06] <Doc_> hi!!!
[18:06] <Doc_> how can i set a default root in open ssh (sftp only) ?
[18:08] <Darinlh> grrr no terminal but xterm runs fine???
[18:09] <Darinlh> I hate having to rebuild my desktop settings
[18:09] <akafurious> Yea same here
[18:10] <akafurious> i prefer command line then to GUI
[18:10] <GrungeMachine> hello
[18:10] <Beauness_Round> hey, can anyone help with an installation hang im having with Ubuntu 12.04
[18:11] <Beauness_Round> ?
[18:11] <Darinlh> I do too but like gui only for windows, have two monitors and leave, chat/message windows open on one and work on the other
[18:11] <spoljo> Beauness_Round: does it hang when you are picking keymap to use ?
[18:11] <DoctorD90> Beauness_Round: i can, but what do you need??
[18:12] <akafurious> yea i have 2 macs both are for my music producing and programming  and 3 linux machines for work
[18:12] <Beauness_Round> no, its during easy install, it hangs at retrieving file 55 of 129
[18:12] <Bury> Hi all
[18:12] <Beauness_Round> im using vmware player
[18:12] <akafurious> it could be your connection fails or the repository fails
[18:12] <akafurious> to connect
[18:12] <nsaquatics> if the system is booting from the wrong disk, where can I change it?
[18:12] <akafurious> BIOS
[18:13] <spoljo> Beauness_Round: there are preset vmware images , try using one of those
[18:13] <Beauness_Round> and ive tried vmware player 4.0.2, 4.0.4, and 5.0.0
[18:13] <Beauness_Round> ive tried with vmtools uninstalled and preinstalled
[18:13] <Beauness_Round> thats a good idea thank you
[18:14] <nsaquatics> akafurious, Nope, it won't boot if I tell it to boot from my new raid array.
[18:14] <Barkeep> hi!1
[18:14] <akafurious> oh you are using VMware
[18:14] <Beauness_Round> also is it appropriate to post links related to my problem here?
[18:15] <Beauness_Round> ill risk it, here are the specifics: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187458/ubuntu-12-04-hangs-on-install-using-vmware-player-on-windows-7
[18:15] <akafurious> hmm
[18:16] <Beauness_Round> my current next step is im going to try the alternate install disk, thats downloading now, so i figured id see if anyone had ideas that would save time
[18:16] <noetic> Is anybody familiar with Evan's Debugger ? I've trouble running it on debian (6.0.5 squeeze).
[18:16] <akafurious> are the computers networked
[18:17] <akafurious> into a domain
[18:17] <akafurious> are the computers networked
[18:17] <Beauness_Round> akafurious, are you asking me?
[18:18] <akafurious> never mind, it looks like it can't find the bootloader
[18:18] <Beauness_Round> i am behind a proxy server, but that never caused issues before
[18:18] <akafurious> thats not a problem
[18:19] <akafurious> hmm thats werid
[18:19] <Beauness_Round> ps currently burning the alternate install disk
[18:19] <akafurious> do you know what file 55 is
[18:19] <akafurious> did you burn the disc properly
[18:20] <Beauness_Round> well i dragged it into the drive in windows explorer and then clicked burn. is there a better/more proper way to do so?
[18:20] <gordonjcp> Beauness_Round: sounds like you burnt it to disk as a file
[18:21] <gordonjcp> you need to burn it as an image
[18:21] <akafurious> yes, when burning images
[18:21] <akafurious> burning as a image
[18:21] <gordonjcp> the best way to do it is to use a USB stick ;-)
[18:21] <vlad_> bekks: Any luck with the xorg log ?
[18:21] <DoctorD90> guys..i have a problem.....im using sftp of openssh...im trying to auto-direct sftp connection on their home, but all guide on internet do not allow more use of ssh normal connection........how can i solve?
[18:21] <akafurious> is different then burning it as a file
[18:21] <Beauness_Round> gotchya, thanks akafurious!!
[18:22] <akafurious> no problem,
[18:22] <Beauness_Round> idk if it will solve the problem, but it removes another!
[18:22] <akafurious> yea
[18:22] <nsaquatics> IS there a file I can post to paste bin to give you guy's a better Idea?
[18:22] <DoctorD90> akafurious: do you know solution?
[18:23] <akafurious> solution too?
[18:23] <akafurious> oh ok
[18:23] <DoctorD90> uys..i have a problem.....im using sftp of openssh...im trying to auto-direct sftp connection on their home, but all guide on internet do not allow more use of ssh normal connection........how can i solve?
[18:23] <akafurious> are you at a clients house
[18:23] <Beauness_Round> ill figure out a way to get the iso on the disk, but i still need to get it to install without hanging in vmware player
[18:23] <DoctorD90> uh..i have understand that "no problem" is for me xP sorry
[18:23] <matchy> ciao a tutti
[18:23] <DoctorD90> yea, form pc
[18:23] <DoctorD90> even if in a few minutes i have to dinner xD
[18:24] <DoctorD90> cia matchy ^^
[18:24] <matchy> ooh finalmente
[18:24] <matchy> come funziona qui ??
[18:24] <Beauness_Round> i am not at a clients house
[18:24] <matchy> cè un tasto per vedere le regole
[18:24] <matchy> ??
[18:24] <akafurious> oh sorry was talking to DoctorD90
[18:24] <DoctorD90> kiedi, aspetti, e se qualcuno sa, risponde..in inglese hai più possibilità...
[18:24] <matchy> good :)
[18:24] <Beauness_Round> lol gotchya
[18:24] <DoctorD90> akafurious: here is international, or only english allowed?
[18:25] <matchy> sorry , the rules ??
[18:25] <akafurious> Beauness_Round, is the machine AMD, or Intel
[18:25] <econdudeawesome> !english
[18:25] <Beauness_Round> ok im hopping off, thanks again aka furious, and anyone whod be able to help, heres the link to my problem again: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187458/ubuntu-12-04-hangs-on-install-using-vmware-player-on-windows-7
[18:25] <nsaquatics> DoctorD90, english. there's specific channels for the various languages
[18:26] <Beauness_Round> oh wait my machine is intel
[18:26] <akafurious> ok bye Beaness_Round
[18:26] <Beauness_Round> but its xeon, so i use the amd desktop file
[18:26] <akafurious> i would suggest using the i386
[18:26] <akafurious> version
[18:26] <DoctorD90> thx nsaquatics ^^ ---- matchy check that link
[18:26] <Beauness_Round> described here http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[18:27] <asogani> Should feature requests be filed as bug reports or submitted to brainstorm.ubuntu.com ?
[18:27] <matchy> doctord90 tu puoi rispondere in italiano :)
[18:27] <Beauness_Round> i am 64bit tho
[18:27] <akafurious> oh yea 64bit problems
[18:27] <tsimpson> asogani: depends on how abstract the feature request if. if it's a feature for a specific package/software, then file a bug. otherwise brainstorm is as good a place as any
[18:28] <DoctorD90> matchy: english only here...
[18:28] <DoctorD90> join in ubuntu-it for italian
[18:28] <akafurious> is the Host machine 64bit aswell
[18:28] <Beauness_Round> yes
[18:28] <asogani> http://askubuntu.com/questions/186598/unity-dash-lens-auto-completion-based-on-recent-search-strings
[18:28] <asogani> I was asked to raise a bug report instead
[18:29] <akafurious> it could be a bug, would be best to report it
[18:29] <Beauness_Round> Dell t3500 with xeon w3540 and vmware and desired ubuntu 64bit 12.04 install
[18:30] <Beauness_Round> ok, thanks for the help, if anyone comes up with anything i have that link earlier to my problem on ubuntu forums
[18:31] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[18:33] <martigan> how can I change the default terminal background color to black?  I'm running Ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <martigan> jet black, rather than dark purple, or whatever that color is
[18:34] <nick_h> when a process is in an uninterruptible sleep, how can i determine what the process is waiting on?
[18:35] <vlad_> vlad
[18:35] <rob_p_> martigan: edit --> Profiles --> default --> edit
[18:36] <martigan> rob_p_, thank you...  I forgot that the terminal had a menu.  I'm not used to the mac osx style menus
[18:37] <akafurious> check the process tree
[18:37] <rob_p_> martigan: I've been away from Ubuntu for a couple of years until today and so noticed the same thing! :)
[18:37] <rob_p_> martigan: ...well, at least the desktop version...
[18:38] <DoctorD90> problem: i use sftp of open-ssh, but when i loggin with sftp programs, it doenst redirect to user folder..if i try to redirect, it not allow more ssh in terminal...how can i do?
[18:39] <martigan> rob_p_ the desktop is growing on me.  I used to be a bare-bones debian user, but I'm enjoying this.
[18:40] <rob_p_> martigan: I'm just playing with it. I'm not much for the desktop anyway, but I thought I'd bring it up in a virtual machine in order to get with the times again.
[18:41] <rob_p_> martigan: I've got a couple of Debian boxes...
[18:42] <maxflax> How do I enable the OpenGL on FOSS ati drivers?
[18:42] <Calinou> it is enabled if the free drivers support it
[18:42] <Calinou> else, it is not.
[18:42] <Calinou> usually it is slow, anyway
[18:44] <FransWillem> How should I configure getty or putty so that F1 through F12 can actually be used through a serial console ?
[18:45] <maxflax> Calinou - yeah but since the latest fglrx doesn't support newest xorg and I just upgraded without reflecting a litte first im stuck with the open ones
[18:46] <dr_willis> FransWillem:  over a real  serial port terminal you mean
[18:47] <dubaco> what is happening with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1049911
[18:47] <bekks> dubaco: Someone will confirm it, and maybe someone else will fix it.
[18:48] <dubaco> i have reported before and it has not been fixed :/
[18:48] <dr_willis> and the originalbug number as?
[18:48] <dr_willis> was?
[18:49] <dubaco> ages ago somone confirmed it and then i lost track of what happened
[18:49] <dubaco> they said it was a kernal issue
[18:49] <dr_willis> ages as in years ago?
[18:50] <dubaco> as in 3 months ago
[18:50] <dubaco> its the same issue
[18:52] <murlidhar> how can i downgrade an application to earlier version?
[18:52] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[18:53] <dubaco> murlidhar: !aptpinning
[18:53] <Brewski> hi #ubuntu... Any framebuffer gurus?
[18:53] <bekks> Bennn: "purge" means "remove it, entirely", no "update it".
[18:53] <bekks> You completely dropped muon.
[18:54] <jrib> Brewski: best to just go right ahead and ask the question
[18:54] <Brewski> I have a very obscure setup. our retail counter uses xubuntu systems. We're looking to add a second (touchscreen) monitor to allow customers to sign on screen. I've got that part working...
[18:54] <jrib> Bennn: how did you try to do these "updates"?
[18:55] <TreyHolliday> Quick Kubuntu question: battery monitor widget does not show the correct status even though /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state is fine.
[18:55] <murlidhar> dubaco: whats that ? !aptpinning ?
[18:55] <jrib> Brewski: (try to keep it on one line; use a pastebin if you need to include logs, configs, etc.)
[18:55] <dubaco> look up apt pinning
[18:55] <Muelli> murlidhar: you can use aptitude to select your version with a curses GUI. Or you do it manually with "apt-get install package=version" where version is one of the available versions listed in apt-cache policy $package
[18:55] <Bennn> jrib: I did them though the update manager
[18:55] <murlidhar> dubaco: where ?
[18:55] <murlidhar> ah ok.
[18:55] <jrib> Bennn: so you didn't add some non-standard repositories for example?
[18:55] <dubaco> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[18:56] <Brewski> but the touchscreen gets miscalibrated if the two screens span instead of clone, so I wrote a script to enable and disable the touchscreen... I'm wondering if we can redirect a framebuffer'd console to that screen for advertising when it's not running X
[18:56] <Bennn> jrib: No
[18:56] <Brewski> Is there a better route for that than framebuffer?
[18:56] <Muelli> murlidhar: another option is apt-get install -t $release package where $release is your desired series.
[18:56] <jrib> Bennn: pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy muon libqtcore4 libqtgui4
[18:58] <vlt> Hello. After the last update of my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS desktop I only get 1024x768 "fbdev" and the mouse pointer doesn't move. Here's my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/Bgxbc0wW -- Any idea how to fix this?
[18:59] <Bennn> jrib: http://pastebin.com/RAaQwP30
[19:00] <vlt> And this is xrandr's output: http://pastebin.com/hbiVkw7c
[19:00] <jrib> Bennn: muon is coming from that ppa
[19:01] <Brewski> Is it possible to only use framebuffer on only one of my two monitors?
[19:02] <bekks> Brewski: No.
[19:02] <Bennn> jrib: So how do I change it to the appropriate one?
[19:03] <jrib> Bennn: well you could just remove that ppa from your /etc/apt/sources.list* and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[19:03] <nsaquatics> ok, here is the outfile from boot-repair. Hopefully this will help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203261/
[19:04] <Brewski> bekks: does it have to be aware of both monitors? Could I just set the resolution to 1280x800 and have it display the same on both screens?
[19:04] <booh-> Hi
[19:05] <TreyHolliday> awesome. 3 year old unplugged my router
[19:05] <TreyHolliday> lemme try this again...
[19:05] <booh-> Even if there are some warnings, is it possible to use Samba4 AD and DC in production without a lot of glitches?
[19:06] <booh-> In a small environnement... (4 workstations in production)
[19:07] <sburjan> Hello. How can i install Open Office on ubuntu 12.04 ? I don't want Libre Office
[19:07] <TreyHolliday> Kubuntu bugs: Battery indicator doesn't match /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state, nearly always shows it on-line when it's not. ACAD/state is correct. 2) "speaker pop" when running Chrome after a battery-powered boot up, doesn't reappear after connecting then disconnecting the power.
[19:07] <bekks> sburjan: Is there a particular reason for wanting "old" software? libreoffice has about 2 million lines of code more meanwhile.
[19:09] <sburjan> bekks: I ned to run a test with our product. I am testing against Lire office and Open office. And as far as I know, open office is not dead
[19:09] <Bennn> jrib: Ok, these is a file in the sources.list.d folder, which had those repositories listed. I comemnted them out and ran apt-get update.
[19:09] <apgalvao> alguem sabe algum documento que indica o tempo de inicialização do ubuntu server?
[19:09] <bekks> sburjan: There has not been a new release after Oracle released it as open source. Go figure. Practically, it is dead.
[19:10] <Bennn> jrib: Should I try reinstalling muon now? It's still not appearing under the menu.
[19:10] <jrib> Bennn: sure, install it
[19:10] <sburjan> bekks: are you 100% sure ? I am looking at http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing_apache_openoffice_3_41
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> sburjan, You want to remove everybit of libreoffice first they share start with a purge then remove everything still left. Here is one deb link for openoffice for install. http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-full
[19:12] <TreyHolliday> OpenOffice is now being maintained by Apache. However, the underlying code is essentially the same as LibreOffice. Functionality between the two should be very similar
[19:12] <TreyHolliday> e.g. what happens in LibreOffice also happens in OpenOffice
[19:12] <bekks> TreyHolliday: The code was the same, they forked.
[19:12] <sburjan> I know they are similar. I'm not a newbie, i have a serious reason to need Open office. I need to run some tests with it
[19:13] <bekks> And libreoffice is pretty much far away from openoffice meanwhile.
[19:13] <Bennn> jrib: Cool. That fixed it. Package manager is back. The software manager and update manager a still gone though. Are those not part of Muon?
[19:13] <bekks> sburjan: Well, then just install openoffice, when you need it :)
[19:13] <nsaquatics> sburjan, I would multiple Virtual machines then each with a different install.
[19:13] <TreyHolliday> bekks: I know :P
[19:13] <TreyHolliday> Any clues on the KDE battery status widget bug?
[19:14] <sburjan> nsaquatics: yepp, this is exactly what I am doing. one Vm for libreoffice (pre-installed) and one VM for Open Office
[19:14] <bhasker> on-board on-screen keyboard does not work with vnc sessions. Is this a known issue ? onb-ard works fine for me but just that the vnc session programs do not get the key strokes
[19:14] <sburjan> but can someone tell me the meta-package name I have to uninstall Libreoffice ?
[19:15] <TreyHolliday> also, should I report that bug to Ubuntu or to KDE?
[19:15] <nsaquatics> Is there a better channel to try and get help with my boot problem?
[19:17] <Iszak_Laptop> I've purchased some hosting, how can I check if it's setup in RAID?
[19:17] <sspies> dmesg
[19:17] <vlt> Iszak_Laptop: Is it a real machine or vurtual?
[19:17] <vlt> *virtual
[19:17] <Iszak_Laptop> vlt, dedicated so real machine.
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, I see the boot script I missed any description of the problem, looks like a identical sda and sdb If I read it right.
[19:18] <sburjan> wilee-nilee: It seems I don't have the packabe libreofice nor libreoffice-base installed. And I'm out from a fresh ubuntu install. What am I missing ?
[19:18] <sspies> Iszak_Laptop: check mount first to see if it uses software raid. the device should be something like /dev/md...
[19:18] <sspies> Otherwise type dmesg and check for raid controllers
[19:18] <vlt> Iszak_Laptop: Then dmesg or syslog should tell you. Also "mount", "blkid", "fdisk -l" ...
[19:19] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, yes I copied sda to sdb via dd but now it won't boot to the new disk (Mirrored Array)
[19:19] <Iszak_Laptop> sspies, nothing says md..
[19:19] <sspies> Iszak_Laptop: Type dmesg |grep -i raid
[19:19] <Iszak_Laptop> nothing.
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> sburjan, I would just do a gksudo naultilus search for anything named libreoffice and it probably did you use purge to remove these originally?
[19:20] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, If I tell the BIOS to boot from the new array it doesn't work. So at the moment it's botting from the old disk.
[19:20] <sspies> Iszak_Laptop: What is your roots device name from mount?
[19:20] <sburjan> yes, i used purge
[19:20] <sburjan> wilee-nilee: yes, I used purge
[19:20] <Iszak_Laptop> sspies http://pastie.org/private/9deymeobju8cyi5ts43jsa
[19:21] <sspies> Iszak_Laptop: please pastie dmesg | grep sd
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, Boot to the new mirror unplug the other HD and run sudo update-grub, grub in general will confuse the two HD setup like this.
[19:21] <sspies> or just dmesg without sd
[19:21] <sspies> without grep
[19:22] <Iszak_Laptop> there's a lot of output from dmesg..
[19:22] <sspies> yeah, just copy the whole thing to pastie please
[19:22] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, when I tell the BIOS to boot to the new mirror it just sit's there with a blinking cursor as if it doesn't see an OS on the mirror to boot to.
[19:22] <aLeSD> hi all
[19:23] <aLeSD> I just bought a 1 TB external hard drive ... which is the best filesystem ?
[19:23]  * TreyHolliday will try again on the ubuntu forums later... gotsta head to work for now.
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> sburjan, The only is to exchange these is to get everybit of one or the other removed to install the other, you may be there now, I have not read every post you have made.
[19:23] <woo-0854> nsaquatics: nfs set up?
[19:24] <sourav> hello
[19:24] <nsaquatics> woo-0854, - ???
[19:24] <Iszak_Laptop> sspies http://pastebin.com/ur5M7eyN
[19:24] <andreb> hi all
[19:24] <andreb> how can i clone a drive in ubuntu 10.04 lts ?
[19:25] <Iszak_Laptop> andreb clonezilla?
[19:25] <nsaquatics> aLeSD, That's a loaded question... my guess is you ask 10 people you'll get 10 different answers..
[19:25] <nsaquatics> andreb, dd
[19:25] <aLeSD> ext3
[19:26] <andreb> i want to clone my aging 250gb drive to a 750gb drive
[19:26] <nsaquatics> woo-0854, I had it to where it would start the boot from sda and then continue booting from sdb. But now in my effort to fix it it just boots from sda
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, WE have to assume here that the original was not broken and the copy is not, So a grub reload to the second HD's mbr (the mirror) seems appropriate. I assume again that you have the HD be read correctly from the bios.  Grub gets confused with identical HD, the original needs to be unplugged to get the second one running most likely.
[19:26] <sourav> can anyone tell me how to create internet connection ppp using huawei E1750 in ubuntu 12.04 LTS server?
[19:27] <aLeSD> maybe ntfs
[19:27] <bhasker> can anyone help me with on-board on-screen keyboard does not work with vnc sessions. Is this a known issue ? onb-ard works fine for me but just that the vnc session programs do not get the key strokes
[19:28] <Iszak_Laptop> sspies any thought?
[19:28] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, ok you are right with your assumption. Both work how do I do a grub-reload? With Boot-Repair?
[19:28] <sspies> Iszak_Laptop: sec plz
[19:30] <alecb> how would I check what drivers are currently in use for my wifi card? I attempted to install linux drivers from Realtek for my new t430, but I'm still experiencing the problems I was before I used the new drivers. how can I confirm that the new drivers were installed/are being used?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, With the boot repair just use a live disc unplug the original HD, and run the recommended repair. This can be done from a live cd as well with some commands with that app as well.
[19:31] <Eagleman7> root@eagleman:~# /etc/init.d/saslauthd start
[19:31] <Eagleman7> bash: /etc/init.d/saslauthd: No such file or directory
[19:31] <nydel> i just did apt-get upgrade & got a grub error, unable to use grub on /dev/loop0 -- i rebooted, no choice, & everything seems fine. is it fine?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> without the boot repair is what I meant this can be done as well. nsaquatics
[19:32] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, I see. I'll try that then. what commands am I looking for to do this?
[19:33] <m3thyl> why is the "Volume/Mute" section for sound alert greyed out and enabled despite my attempts to disable them. i am now permanently stuck with blaring alerts (when i want none)
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, Here is the grub wiki defaulting to using a live cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstall_from_the_LiveCD
[19:35] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, ah, nice. thanks I'll give it a try.
[19:35] <hyperkineitc> Hi all. Just upgraded from Ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 and now Samba seems crippled. My public shares are still accessible, but user shares are not. Anyone have a clue?
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, ask any questions if needed, below that method is a chroot to do the same thing as well, just another method.
[19:38] <hyperkineitc> The error I'm getting is "You do not have permission to access the server"
[19:40] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all. I am in GParted and I want to expand my primary partition into unallocated space (yes... I have all the disks unmounted). Anyhow, the unallocated space is to the left of the main partition, and I cannot seem to expand left... is there a way to do this?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, Is the partition inside a extended partition?
[19:42] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: Which one?
[19:42] <alecb> bump -- how would I check what wifi driver I'm currently using?
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, The one, your main that your trying to exspand.
[19:42] <mizifih> hi there!
[19:43] <mizifih> I was wondering if there's a way to rotate my desktop
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, The swap is off and your on a live cd right?
[19:43] <Muelli> reCAPTCHA: well, I think I could just move my partition once. I had the same problem. It worked for me. Dunno if your filesystem is supported by GParted thuogh.
[19:43] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: Yes it is part of an extended partition...
[19:43] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee, thanks for the help. I'll try that this evening once the store is closed.
[19:44] <vlt> vlt: The update messed up your grub.cfg and you’re running the wrong 3.0.0 kernel. Switching back to 10.04’s 2.6.38-10 helps.
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, The extended is a container for a logical it has to be moved first if the one your are trying to expand is bumped up against it.
[19:45] <mizifih> I was wondering if there's a way to rotate my desktop, I'm using the nVidia accelerated graphics driver, on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:45] <pinpotral> how can i answer to someone here? with xchat??
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, Cool, good luck.
[19:45] <pinpotral> username:bla bla bla
[19:45] <Iszak_Laptop> I'm not currently on a LTS how can I upgrade to a LTS via do-release-upgrade ?
[19:45] <pinpotral> how?
[19:46] <beast_> anyone know anything about how to get a netgear wg111t to work with 12.04 x86?
[19:46] <SlutaTramsa> hello, I was here the other day but I didn't get an answer to my question so i'll try again. My problem is that i can't mute/increase/decrease the volume for the sound on my keyboard, I got a "Microsoft wired keyboard 600" and i'm running latest ubuntu 12.04 LTS-1. When I test the volume up key in xev i get the following http://pastebin.com/rYse0XKG (I only do volume up and then close with alt + f4)
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Iszak_Laptop, can you name from where to where in OS identification.
[19:47] <Iszak_Laptop> 11.10
[19:47] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: Gah.. how do I do that?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Iszak_Laptop, that is not a LT you want 12.04 right?
[19:47] <Iszak_Laptop> wilee-nilee; yeah only 12.04 and to then only ever get prompted to upgrade to LTS in the future.
[19:47] <pinpotral> how can i andwer someone??
[19:48] <Pici> !tab | pinpotral
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, Right click the partition in the list and click the same resize and resize it.
[19:49] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: The extended does not show up in GParted, just Disk utility.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> Iszak_Laptop, Go to software sources and set the third tab at the bottom for any new releasesw and run the update manager.
[19:50] <Iszak_Laptop> wilee-nilee this is CLI
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, Take a screen shot of gparted and image bin it.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> Iszak_Laptop, Not sure then you headless?
[19:51] <Iszak_Laptop> wilee-nilee no remote server but yes I suppose it is headless.
[19:51] <guntbert_> !tab | pinpotral
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Iszak_Laptop, Not sure really then.
[19:52] <lanoxx> i have german locales installed on my system but i am running my system in english, now im trying to run LC_ALL=de_DE cp and im still getting an english error message, what is wrong?
[19:52] <guntbert_> pinpotral: try it like  gun<tab>
[19:52] <endiruna> hi everybody, anyone knows a good voice synthesizer? i mean text tu speech
[19:53] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/37671
[19:54] <lanoxx> whats wrong  with my locales?
[19:54] <shade34321> I have two nfs servers, one is set up as a home partition for workstations in the lab and the other one is the new home server that will replace the old one. Currently new users data is on the new server but it's not allowing them to log on, or taking a really really long time. any ideas?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, Right click sda2 in the list then resize and exspand it to the left run it then do the same for sda5.  The extended as it is so thin is easier to access the controls (right clicks) in the list of partitions rather then the picture at the top.
[19:56] <dr_willis> lanoxx:  export  the variable perhaps
[19:56] <janefonda> hullo
[19:57] <lanoxx> dr_willis, u sure that makes a difference?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> endiruna, Through orca is some stuff here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[19:57] <janefonda> anyone with some expertise with hdparm and --dco-restore?
[19:57] <lanoxx> bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE): No such file or directory
[19:57] <lanoxx> args
[19:57] <dr_willis> lanoxx:  trivial to try...
[19:58] <lanoxx> i tried
[19:58] <lanoxx> see above
[19:58] <bekks> !ask | janefonda
[19:59] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:59] <jrib> lanoxx: also try LANGUAGE and LANG
[20:00] <lanoxx> jrib, those too work, but LC_ALL give the above error
[20:00] <lanoxx> but when i call a program then its still in english
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, That resize of the sda5 will take a while as well, and may not boot without a reload of grub to the mbr so be prepared.
[20:01] <reCAPTCHA> wilee-nilee: Great... thanks... it seems to have worked.
[20:01] <jrib> lanoxx: what did you mean by "work"?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> reCAPTCHA, Cool, it is confusing at times, hehe. ;)
[20:02] <lanoxx> jrib, exporting LANGUAGE=de_DE and LANG=de_DE does NOT give an error,
[20:02] <lanoxx> but LC_ALL gives this stupid error
[20:03] <lanoxx> and even if i call LANG=de_DE gedit i get wired responses
[20:03] <jrib> lanoxx: does it still complain if you do "LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8"?  How did you install the locale?
[20:03] <lanoxx> LANG=de gedit        (process:29331): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.	Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[20:04] <lanoxx> jrib, via the system settings language support which claims that everything is alright
[20:04] <lanoxx> jrib, and i tried this blog entry: http://web.onassar.com/blog/2011/07/27/adding-a-language-package-french-to-ubuntu-linux-1/
[20:04] <lanoxx> jrib, the output from that functions suggests that everything is alright
[20:05] <jrib> lanoxx: you're confusing me because you said earlier that LANG "works" but now you say you get weird responses
[20:08] <lanoxx> jrib, using the bash command 'export' for example export LANG=de_DE does NOT give an error, thats what i mean by 'works' but export LC_ALL=de_DE DOES give an error, so this does NOT work
[20:08] <jrib> lanoxx: does it still complain if you do "LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8"?
[20:08] <nancy_grace> Hello everyone, this is Nancy Grace.
[20:08] <lanoxx> jrib, ah now it work
[20:08] <lanoxx> +s
[20:09] <lanoxx> !ask nancy_grace
[20:09] <jrib> lanoxx: yes, I can use LANGUAGE in a vague way (just doing LANGUAGE=pt_PT or even just LANGUAGE=pt), but for LANG and LC_ALL I've always needed to specify pt_PT.UTF-8 in full
[20:10] <lanoxx> jrib, IHMO thats a bad bug
[20:10] <lanoxx> jrib, but thank you very much for your help
[20:10] <lanoxx> this has just cost me 2 hours though
[20:11] <jrib> lanoxx: D:
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> hi, i have a problem
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> I want to make a script that runs a ssh commans
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> command
[20:12] <nancy_grace> Nancy Grace says that Nancy Grace needs to get help with her ubuntu machine (TM).
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> but it asks for the ssh password
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> I want to do all in a single line
[20:12] <HoNgOuRu> is that possible ?
[20:12] <kristian-aalborg> cheers
[20:12] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: yah, use public keys without a passphrase
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> trying to rotate a pdf file
[20:13] <nancy_grace> Can noone help Nancy Grace?
[20:13] <jrib> nancy_grace: just ask your question (on one line)
[20:13] <HoNgOuRu> beandog, there has to be a generic way
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> using "pdftk input.pdf cat 1-endW output final.pdf" but it is not working
[20:13] <nancy_grace> jrib: Nancy Grace needs to be able to run Microsoft Office (TM) on her Ubuntu (TM) machine, why can't I, Nancy Grace, do this?
[20:14] <kristian-aalborg> nothing happens
[20:14] <jrib> nancy_grace: if you're just going to troll, go elsewhere
[20:14] <lanoxx> jrib, actually both LANG AND LC_ALL need to be exported to work
[20:14] <HoNgOuRu> I mean, what if I want to execute a certain script that will ask me 2 or 3 things, is there any way of put the answers right after the program runs ?
[20:14] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: that's pretty generic
[20:14] <lanoxx> jrib,  if either is missing then i still get english
[20:14] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: you could setup keys between the two boxes and use those as a requirement
[20:14] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: er, certs
[20:14] <HoNgOuRu> beandog, forget about ssh
[20:15] <HoNgOuRu> let's talk generic
[20:15] <beandog> how far apart are the boxes, network wise
[20:15] <tsimpson> HoNgOuRu: rephrase as a generic question then, one without the term "ssh"
[20:15] <nancy_grace> jrib: Nancy Grace is not trying to troll. I, Nancy Grace, need to get my Microsoft Office (TM) installed on my Ubuntu (TM) machine.
[20:15] <jrib> lanoxx: hmm, my LC_ALL is not set by default, but I can set either LC_ALL or LANG (just one) to pt_PT and it works
[20:15] <HoNgOuRu> lets say a script asks for my name to salute me... can I run the script and at the question, make the terminal autoanswer the name question ?
[20:16] <lionrouge> hi
[20:16] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: yes, using yes
[20:16] <HoNgOuRu> tsimpson, roger that
[20:16] <jrib> nancy_grace: stop talking with the TM and constantly metioning "Nancy Grace" then
[20:16] <tsimpson> HoNgOuRu: depends on what the script uses to ask that question
[20:16] <HoNgOuRu> beandog, how ?
[20:16] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: for one command, that is.  But if you're talking about scripts versus ssh, then I'm not gonna get into that.
[20:16] <lanoxx> jrib, strange
[20:16] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: fex, yes y | install.sh
[20:16] <jrib> lanoxx: I meant "pt_PT.UTF-8" of course
[20:16] <lanoxx> jrib, yeah
[20:16] <nancy_grace> jrib: I, Nancy Grace, can not help it. There is a little girl missing and this sick bastard took her and hid her body. I, Nancy Grace, will stop at nothing until justice is found.
[20:16] <HoNgOuRu> beandog, ill try that
[20:16] <hyperkineitc> Anyone know why public samba shares would continue to work but user samba shares break after upgrading from 11.04 to 12.04?
[20:17] <kristian-aalborg> ah, pdfedit saved me
[20:17] <dr_willis> !info expect
[20:17] <lionrouge> i have such a machine: ASUS M3N-HT (GeForce 8200 integrated), Phenom I, 4 Gb of RAM. Ubuntu 12.04 amd64 doesn't start here. Freezes at boot with video artefacts. LiveCD though boots well
[20:17] <jrib> heh, was going to give him another chance
[20:18] <dr_willis> !nomodeset > lionrouge
[20:19] <lionrouge> dr_willis, i tried to use nomodeset. No effect
[20:20] <Nancy_Grace> jrib: I, Nancy Grace,  will not stop until that missing girl is found. Why are you not answering my questions jrib? Are you defending this sick pervert? I, Nancy Grace, will not stop until I get Microsoft Office (TM) installed on my Ubuntu (TM) machine.
[20:20] <jrib> lanoxx: there are some rules in man 7 locale
[20:20] <dr_willis> install the nvidia drivers from text mode perhaps
[20:20] <booi> hahahah omg why are you booting her she's hilarious
[20:20] <lionrouge> dr_willis, how to enter text mode?
[20:21] <dr_willis> !text
[20:21] <lionrouge> dr_willis, thanks a lot
[20:21] <beandog> lionrouge: boot *into* text mode or switch to it?
[20:21] <lionrouge> i think it doesn't matter in this context
[20:21] <beandog> lionrouge: try ctl alt f1
[20:21] <lionrouge> oh no
[20:22] <beandog> alt f7 if you get stuck
[20:22] <Eagleman7> Where can i find the plugin directory for openvpn?
[20:22] <lionrouge> i mean to boot
[20:22] <HoNgOuRu> beandog, that is now working as I would like
[20:22] <dr_willis> recovery mode would be about the same as text mode
[20:22] <beandog> HoNgOuRu: kk
[20:22] <HoNgOuRu> lets say... salute.sh will stop for an answer at the name and then echo "hello $name"
[20:22] <davetarmac> Hey guys
[20:23] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of doing this ? let's say ....          hello.sh < "myname"
[20:23] <Eagleman7> Where can i find the plugin directory for openvpn?
[20:23] <dr_willis> HoNgOuRu:    expect  can automate  things likee that
[20:23] <davetarmac> Just inherited a Fujitsu Esprimo V5535 and so I stuck Ubuntu 12.04 on there
[20:23] <HoNgOuRu> dr_willis, Ill take a look at it right now.
[20:23] <HoNgOuRu> thank u
[20:23] <davetarmac> everything working beautifuly, except the resolution is stuck very high
[20:24] <davetarmac> I've done a quick Google and it says I need to change xorg.conf - however another articl states that 12.04 doesn't actually have an xorg.conf
[20:24] <davetarmac> is there an easy way to sort the resolution out?
[20:24] <jrib> davetarmac: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[20:25] <Oldschl> Hi all - I'm having a big issue right now trying to get a Raid5 repaired.  I was able to --assemble the raid after zero-ing out the superblocks (last case scenario), and all the drives are now added back to the raid5, but now md0 says there isn't a valid partition table
[20:25] <joefrank> am i it the right channel?   #ubuntu ?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> DevilsReject, are you using a large monitor
[20:25] <Oldschl> can I recreate that safely?
[20:25] <jrib> joefrank: this is #ubuntu on freenode, yes
[20:25] <davetarmac> jrib: thanks for that - I'll give it a bash
[20:25] <davetarmac> (no pun intended)
[20:26] <jrib> !resolution | davetarmac
[20:26] <jrib> davetarmac: thought that factoid might have new info, but not really
[20:26] <joefrank> jrib,  thanks
[20:26] <BluesKaj> oops davetarmac , using a large monitor ?
[20:27] <Oldschl> Anyone know if I can use parted on a RAID partition and then "rescue"?
[20:30] <famLUCE> hi. I would like to buy an Optoma HD600X projector. Can I use it with my pc with ubuntu ?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> far do you have the proper dvi or hdmi outputs on your video/graphics card ?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> famLUCE,^
[20:31] <HoNgOuRu> dr_willis, too hard to learn how to use it
[20:31] <lionrouge> it freezes even in text mode...
[20:32] <famLUCE> BluesKaj:  I have a notebook with vga and a netbook with hdmi
[20:32] <lionrouge> the last caption on screen: starting CUPS printing spooler/server
[20:33] <BluesKaj> what kind of video/audio input connections does the projector have  , famLUCE?
[20:33] <|Merlin|> anyone be able to help me with a recent upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10?
[20:33] <hyperkineitc> joefrank: Great nick.
[20:33] <famLUCE> BluesKaj: hdmi and vga
[20:33] <davetarmac> BluesKaj: Nope - norml latop monitor, but I can't get higher resolution than 800x600
[20:34] <famLUCE> BluesKaj: but I wonder if video drivers of ubuntu do support this projector
[20:34] <askersearchinghe> i hear some sound in my laptop dv6-2160et . and i prepared a video on facebook . http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282161805229827 you can listen sound 0:03 to video end . if you can info about fixing this sound plesea . send email eneskuray@windowslive.com
[20:34] <BluesKaj> famLUCE, well , then you're fine ...the projector doesn't need support drivers only the graphics card
[20:35] <famLUCE> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:35] <askersearchinghe> EVERYONE LOOK HERE TO MY FIRT POST ON UP
[20:35] <askersearchinghe> i hear some sound in my laptop dv6-2160et . and i prepared a video on facebook . http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282161805229827 you can listen sound 0:03 to video end . if you can info about fixing this sound plesea . send email eneskuray@windowslive.com
[20:36] <BluesKaj> famLUCE, the projectoe will probly be recognized , but it's a passiver device as far the laptop is concerned
[20:36] <BluesKaj> projector
[20:38] <Jordan_U> askersearchinghe: Using all caps won't make people notice your question more, it will however make people who would otherwise want to help you less enthusiastic about doing so.
[20:39] <MrNaz> how can you mount a windows share with rw perms? when i add it to fstab the whole thing is mounted with root as the owner... can it be mounted with the user shown as the owner of the files? i use -o rw when mounting
[20:42] <Muelli> MrNaz: hm. I just click the thing nautilus, the filemanager. So no messing with fstab.
[20:42] <alberto> hi
[20:42] <alberto> i have an MTP device
[20:42] <askersearchinghe> jordan : i have been looking for help for a week . i cant withstand anymore
[20:43] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : i have been looking for help for a week . i cant withstand anymore
[20:43] <alberto> But nautilus doesn't display files inside folder
[20:43] <alberto> but gMTP yes and takes 1 minute to go inside a folder
[20:43] <Jordan_U> askersearchinghe: I understand that that is frustrating, but using all caps isn't productive. Have you tried http://askubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org ?
[20:44] <askersearchinghe> yes , 3 times for each
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> alberto: what file system does the partition use?
[20:44] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : yes , 3 times for each
[20:44] <drupin> i got this message while update
[20:44] <drupin> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu-Studio 12.04.1 _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120818)/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[20:45] <peque> puta
[20:45] <peque> hola
[20:45] <drupin> i am running ubuntu from usb ..
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> drupin: comment out the top 3 lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:45] <alberto> ActionParsnip, Computer or device?
[20:45] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : yes , 3 times for each
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> alberto: the device you are connecting
[20:45] <alberto> Computer ext4
[20:45] <drupin> ok ActionParsnip brb
[20:45] <Jordan_U> askersearchinghe: Repeating your comments is also not productive.
[20:45] <alberto> ActionParsnip, ext4
[20:46] <askersearchinghe> can you go link that i send
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> alberto: hve you fsck'd the device?
[20:46] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : can you go link that i send
[20:47] <hyperkineitc> I'd fsck that.
[20:47] <alberto> ActionParsnip, yes and none problem
[20:47] <Jordan_U> hyperkineitc: Please keep your comments professional and family friendly in this channel.
[20:47] <hyperkineitc> Yup.
[20:48] <askersearchinghe> jordan_U : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282161805229827
[20:48] <unless> Hey, hello guys!
[20:49] <alberto> MTP Microsoft and their property protocols ¬¬
[20:50] <unless> Today I upgrade my system and after that when I boot it keeps waiting for network configuration at start-up, then I have no network. When I try to open the Network at System Preferences it says the system network services are not compatible with this version, and I only see network proxy as service option. Could someone help me to solve it  please?
[20:51] <askersearchinghe> jordan_U : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282161805229827
[20:51] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : can you go link that i send
[20:52] <Jordan_U> askersearchinghe: I have seen your comment, I don't have time to help you at the moment. Please try to be more patient and polite (with me, and with the channel as a whole. We're all volunteers).
[20:54] <qa_> Can someone help me how to install iSCSI package
[20:54] <unless> Today I upgrade my system and after that when I boot it keeps waiting for network configuration at start-up, then I have no network. When I try to open the Network at System Preferences it says the system network services are not compatible with this version, and I only see network proxy as service option. Could someone help me to solve it  please?
[20:54] <askersearchinghe> jordan_u : but you say dont do that or dont do that
[20:54] <drupin> ActionParsnip: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 12.04.1 _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120818)]/ precise main multiverse universe
[20:55] <pinpotral> hello i have problems with acpi, can anyone help me?
[20:55] <drupin> will removing this line affect ... as i am running from USB... my OS is installed on USB ActionParsnip
[20:56] <i7c> !ask | pinpotral
[20:57] <pinpotral> ok  i have problems with acpi, you can see it here http://pastebin.com/xxDTBRzy     [    1.196048]
[20:57] <pinpotral> how can i solve it?
[20:57] <pinpotral> toshiba notebook here
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> drupin: yes, comment that out, if you have web access you don't need the local files
[20:59] <unless> bbt
[20:59] <drupin> ok ActionParsnip
[21:00] <i7c> pinpotral: is anything not working properly? o_O
[21:01] <pinpotral> yes i7c
[21:01] <pinpotral> when i turn my pc down
[21:01] <pinpotral> the hd stops and not turn down
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> turn it down? How do you do that?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> pinpotral: do you mean off?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> pinpotral: try:  sudo shutdown -h now     does it turn off ok?
[21:02] <pinpotral> forever loading to turn off and i have to unplug it
[21:02] <qa_> dont know how to install iSCSI package
[21:02] <Guest13966> Oldschl: I don't know if parted can rescue a RAID partition. From what I've read the superblock is different to the partition table. What filesystem is your RAID using (some filesystems repeat the superblock every x number of bytes, i.e. my laptop has a copy of the 14 backup copies of superblock)? From a quick Google around there appear to be some tools that *might* help but I think they are ext2/3/4 tools (e2fsck and dumpe2fs).
[21:02] <woosim> hello. Where does thunderbird take the information that he displays in recently used(when trying to add an attachment to an email) in ubuntu 12.04
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> woosim: possibly the sme history recorder in dash#
[21:04] <i7c> woosim: have you tried ~/.thunderbird/...  ?
[21:04] <woosim> i7c: i'm asking because it's showing files I might have used, but never attached
[21:05] <i7c> oh ok then my guess might be wrong ;)
[21:05] <woosim> I already tried deleting the history in the privacy settings, but this didn't help and I don't like my system doing things without me knowing ;)
[21:06] <johndonsl> Hi. I'm trying to allow myself to use sudo. There's nothing on this in the 12.04 documentation. I tried "usermod -a -G admin chrisseaton" from a tutorial from older versions, and I get the message "usermod: group 'admin' does not exist". Any ideas?
[21:07] <i7c> johndonsl: i think you have to add yourself to the sudo group :)
[21:07] <pinpotral> how can i solve acdi?
[21:08] <Iszak_Laptop> Is a w_await of 200 odd, high?
[21:08] <johndonsl> i7c: got it, thanks
[21:08] <Guest13966> MrNaz: You can specify uid=x and gid=y (where x and y are the user ID and group ID for the user you want to be the owner) in fstab. Windows Share (Server Message Block - SMB protocol) doesn't actually have user/permissions as part of the protocol. AFAIK the permissions (in the Windows world) are dealt with by the underlying filesystem (NTFS).
[21:11] <beast_> hello everybody
[21:11] <Pyr0_Audax> HELLO
[21:11] <beast_> im having a problem in 12.04
[21:11] <Pyr0_Audax> ok wat problem
[21:11] <beast_> the problem is, the system is not loading the ndiswrapper module after a reboot forcing me to modprobe it everytime
[21:12] <Pyr0_Audax> i dony know anything about modules, soo i dont know :P
[21:12] <beast_> now its taken me a few days just to figure out how to get this damn netgear wifi dongle to even work, now it will only work if i modprobe and manually load the module everytime i start the computer up
[21:12] <Pyr0_Audax> lol
[21:12] <Pyr0_Audax> that sucks
[21:13] <Pyr0_Audax> I had a problem with my tp-link usb thingy
[21:13] <beast_> ok well this is a support channel and there are about 1000 other people in here, maybe one of them could help me figure this out?
[21:13] <MalfermitaKodo> beast_: have you consider writing it into a boot-script?
[21:13] <Pyr0_Audax> he knows
[21:13] <beast_> MalfermitaKodo, im afraid im wouldnt even know how to do that
[21:13] <beast_> MalfermitaKodo,  maybe u could give me some instruction?
[21:14] <baronobeefdip> Hello I need some help opening port 6000 for remote X server access
[21:14] <Pyr0_Audax> somehow make a script that automatically loads the module, idk im not the expert
[21:14] <MalfermitaKodo> yeah, thinking back of how I did it for my damnslow
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Pyr0_Audax: add the module name in /etc/modules
[21:15] <beast_> MalfermitaKodo, i put ndiswrapper into /etc/modules, but that doesnt seem to do it..
[21:15] <beast_> lol..
[21:15] <beast_> ActionParsnip, u responded moments before i could enter my last response
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> beast_: or add:  modprobe ndiswrapper  in /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line and it will run at boot
[21:15] <beast_> ActionParsnip, ill try that now, thx
[21:17] <beast_> ActionParsnip, uhh....inside the script it says "by default this script does nothing."
[21:17] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  over a local lan? or the internet?
[21:17] <beast_> ActionParsnip, is this the best place to put ndiswrapper?
[21:17] <baronobeefdip> local lan
[21:18] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  why not just use ssh and x forwarding?
[21:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34657/how-to-make-x-org-listen-to-remote-connections-on-port-6000
[21:18] <baronobeefdip> I am using xdmx to create a tile display, each computer will act as a node and control it's own screen according to the servers requests
[21:19] <beast_> ActionParsnip, hello??
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> beast_: there isn't really a best
[21:19] <baronobeefdip> and each node will be listening for connections to their x sever on port 6000
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> beast_: have some patience
[21:19] <beast_> ActionParsnip, oh srry..
[21:19] <beast_> ActionParsnip, sry bud, im just irritated atm
[21:19] <beast_> ActionParsnip, not your fault, and im sorry.
[21:19] <beast_> ActionParsnip, is ndiswrapper a daemon?
[21:20] <dr_willis> !info ndiswrapper
[21:20] <baronobeefdip> i don't think that ssh x forwarding has the ability to make a tile display, It seems that you are able to create a config file that has the layout of all of the nodes, which section of the display each node belongs to. and you can use the xdmx command to make the nodes display pictures that the computer running xdmx tells it to
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> beast_: its a module
[21:21] <baronobeefdip> I have already been to that link and it didn't work, it is also unclear which version of ubuntu it's addressing
[21:21] <beast_> ActionParsnip, oh duh. i did know that.
[21:21] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  most likely not.  seems you need to start X in a way that it dosent use the 'nolisten tcp' option from the url i posted above
[21:21] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi, do you guys have an idea as to what to use to do regular, incremental backups?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[21:21] <fris> is it possible to run identd only on localhost, but it still do ident replies kinda like how mysql has skip networking
[21:21] <baronobeefdip> I have seen that link already and it didn't work
[21:21] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  so i guess you would have to explore the X configs and scripts and see what one is applying that option
[21:22] <beast_> ActionParsnip, what would i edit to make the system load the module at boot?
[21:22] <baronobeefdip> I have been exploring some websites where people have pulled this off, here at the university of tennessee they were able to setup their tile display wall with xdmx
[21:22] <baronobeefdip> here is the config file
[21:23] <baronobeefdip> http://seelab.eecs.utk.edu/powerwall/dmx-config.php
[21:23] <nshbrown> when I mount a shared folder, I try using the "sudo mount -t vboxsf shared.com /d/shared.com -o rw,exec,uid=33,gid=33,dmask=022,fmask=133" command, and I can't seem to get the group and other to get write permissions, only read. I've tried multiple variants of the mask #'s such as 777. Any ideas how to get the mount to have ugo+rw on the entire mount?
[21:23] <baronobeefdip> and here is the command(s) that they ran to get the dmx console on the server machine and control what gets displayed on each screen on each node
[21:23] <baronobeefdip> http://seelab.eecs.utk.edu/powerwall/dmx-run.php
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> beast_: /etc/modules or a command in /etc/rc.local to load the module
[21:23] <baronobeefdip> the only thing that i am unable to do is to get x server to listen on port 6000
[21:24] <baronobeefdip> is there a step by step guide on how to do this, and if so is this easier to do in red hat distributions or are they equal in difficulty
[21:24] <carlo> Hello guys, I got problem with overlapping subtitles when I use Mplayer. Any idea how to fix it ?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> carlo: do other players work ok?
[21:25] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  ->    grep nolisten /etc/X11/*/*
[21:25] <beast_> ActionParsnip, i put "modprobe ndiswrapper" right above exit 0 in rc.local
[21:25] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc:exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp "$@"
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> beast_: that'll do it
[21:26] <_d4vid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97dDR0n0yY& howto fix that? i use command from comment but that dosnt help me
[21:26] <baronobeefdip> just ran that command and this is what came up
[21:26] <baronobeefdip> Binary file /etc/X11/X matches
[21:26] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  that option causes X to ignore port 6000 from what im reading..
[21:26] <baronobeefdip> I just tried to open it in gedit and gedit was unable to display it
[21:26] <dr_willis> im on 12.10 so my stuff may be differnt.
[21:27] <dr_willis>   /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc    is a text file...
[21:27] <beast_> ActionParsnip, its also in the modules file
[21:27] <dr_willis> with 2 lines in it. ;)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> beast_: should give the desired result
[21:27] <baronobeefdip> just lost those command you posted in my client, can you post them again
[21:27] <LibertyTrader> If I install Ubuntu beta, can I use that to update to full release?
[21:27] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:       grep nolisten /etc/X11/*/*
[21:28] <dr_willis> LibertyTrader:  thats how the package system works.. yes.
[21:28] <carlo> ActionParsnip yep everything works fine with VLC but I use Mplayer because there is option to move subtitles on the bottom of the screen
[21:28] <baronobeefdip> nothing appeared after running that command
[21:28] <baronobeefdip> I also want to know how to do this in debian
[21:29] <baronobeefdip> but lets focus on ubuntu for now
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> carlo: can you give the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; apt-cche policy mplayer
[21:29] <nydel> recently i apt-get installed a package, it was all the audio bits from ubuntustudio -- anyone know that package name? it installed too much stuff, i need to remove all of it & start from scratch
[21:29] <_d4vid> people help me please
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> carlo: use a pastebin to host the text please
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: ask and see
[21:29] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  No idea if that file dosent exist for you.. i would think its a fairly standard file for X.
[21:29] <LibertyTrader> I am absolutely desperate for a really recent linux distro I can install
[21:29] <_d4vid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97dDR0n0yY& howto fix that?
[21:29] <LibertyTrader> Ubuntu is too old, I get crashes
[21:29] <LibertyTrader> Suse installer doesn't even boot
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> LibertyTrader: there was a release in April, very new
[21:29] <LibertyTrader> I guess I might have to turn to arch
[21:30] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  whats lsb_release -r   say for your system? what version are you using
[21:30] <LibertyTrader> ActionParsnip, I have ivy bride  ultrabook... Ubuntu just hard freezes on my
[21:30] <LibertyTrader> me
[21:30] <LibertyTrader> even on livecd
[21:30] <nydel> dr_willis: & ActionParsnip: could either of you weigh in on what i just said?
[21:31] <baronobeefdip> Just looked up how to do it in redhat and all there is to it is just running the gedit on the /etc/gdm/custom.conf and change the DisallowTCP=true to DisallowTCP=false, I am confused as to the name of the config file's location, gdm, I thought this was suppossed to be an X configuration
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> LibertyTrader: thats not due to the OS being old then , thats systm config
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> LibertyTrader: why did you think it was old, and taht even 'oldness' ws the issue?
[21:31] <LibertyTrader> I think maybe touchpad driver is out of date
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: I don't see an issue there, what is the issue?
[21:31] <LibertyTrader> or some driver is out of date so I want newer kernel
[21:31] <dr_willis> nydel:  those meta-packages make it easy to pull in stuff.. but harder to remove it again. :) it may have been ubuntu-studio perhaps?
[21:31] <zykotick9> baronobeefdip: are you using GDM?  lightdm is default.
[21:32] <LibertyTrader> I can't even install ubuntu because the livecd desktop freezes
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> LibertyTrader: try Quantal then it will have newer versions of the drivers
[21:32] <_d4vid> ActionParsnip, scaling problem with latest ati driver on 12.04
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> LibertyTrader: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[21:32] <dr_willis> ubuntustudio-audio - Transitional Package for the Audio Seed
[21:32] <baronobeefdip> not sure, I can tell you that I am using lucid lynx
[21:32] <dr_willis> ubuntustudio-desktop - Ubuntu Studio Desktop Package
[21:32] <_d4vid> ActionParsnip, is not possible to scale window maximize
[21:32] <zykotick9> baronobeefdip: lucid used GDM
[21:32] <LibertyTrader> ActionParsnip, How do I set that option? On liveusb it just boots straight to destkop. No time for parameters
[21:32] <nydel> dr_willis: it wasn't - it was close, but it had "audio" or "sound" in there, specifically audio things & not video
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | LibertyTrader
[21:33] <dr_willis> nydel:   ubuntustudio-desktop - Ubuntu Studio Desktop Package
[21:33] <baronobeefdip> How do I open the port then
[21:33] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  what does   cat /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[21:33] <dr_willis> say?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: so when you maximize an application window, what happens?
[21:33] <baronobeefdip> #!/bin/sh
[21:33] <baronobeefdip> exec /usr/bin/X "$@"
[21:33] <dr_willis> opening port 6000 from the forums -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1682462
[21:33] <baronobeefdip> that what it shows
[21:34] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  now thats interesting... have you edited that file befor?
[21:34] <baronobeefdip> yes
[21:34] <_d4vid> ActionParsnip, not application windows .. dispay resolution
[21:34] <dr_willis> etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc:exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp "$@"    is the normal
[21:34] <nydel> dr_willis: the package is ubuntustudio-audio -- but when i do apt-get remove, it only wants to remove that package, 44kb. it pulled gigabytes of packages!
[21:34] <beast_> ActionParsnip, any other tips on how to get the module to load at boot?
[21:34] <dr_willis> so when you reboot  X should start and listen then to port 6000
[21:34] <dr_willis> nydel:  because its a meta-package that just pulls in other packages
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: is the resolution too low?
[21:35] <derekv> fastest way to clone an ubuntu install ? both are on network , don't want to wait for dd however
[21:35] <nydel> dr_willis: is there a way to wipe away a meta-package
[21:35] <dr_willis> nydel:  those meta-packages make it easy to pull in stuff.. but harder to remove it again. :) <<<<   why i said this earlier
[21:35] <mike__> nydel: unfortunately that's because it's a meta-package, it just lists other packages to install.
[21:35] <nydel> dr_willis: or should i -s install it, copy the list & remove all that?
[21:36] <dr_willis> you could look at what depends it pulled in i guess..  i rarely uninstalls tuff.
[21:36] <hwkiller-netbook> canonical should patch apt to support properly removing metapackages
[21:36] <_d4vid> ActionParsnip, no look at video .. monitor resolution is not correct .. amd catalyst driver want save setting of scaling window
[21:37] <dr_willis> with that logic removeing gedit, would remove ubuntu-desktop which would remove most everything.......
[21:37] <nydel> hwkiller-netbook: i think i will write a script that does it, just a few regex running a -s install to get the package names then a big apt-get remove every single package that it installed
[21:37] <derekv> can I get everything with rsync and then restore grub and boot, or will rsync miss anything important ?
[21:37] <baronobeefdip> so with what I just posted, will the contents of the configuration file I just posted be able to listen to port 6000
[21:37] <baronobeefdip> and when you reply to me, include my name its easier for me to read that way
[21:37] <nydel> dr_willis: if i get the list of packages it pulled, then uninstall them, do i run the risk of uninstalling something important
[21:37] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  from what im reading you just need to edit that one file. restart X, and of course make sure the firewall is not blocking.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: how am I supposed to know the correct resolution for your disaply?
[21:38] <dr_willis> nydel:  if a package overlaps with the depends of ubuntu-desktop its possible
[21:38] <baronobeefdip> how do you restart x now that the nolisten piece is gone
[21:38] <dr_willis> baronobeefdip:  one way - reboot.. another way. 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[21:38] <baronobeefdip> because i think that if i restart the computer itself it won't be available to recieve x requests
[21:38] <nydel> dr_willis: sigh, i guess it was pretty irresponsible of me to blindly install a metapackage then.
[21:38] <dr_willis> so you edited that file then never tried restarting X?
[21:38] <baronobeefdip> i am seeing that this is a little easier to set in red hat
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: the screen has a res of 1920x1024
[21:39] <dr_willis> GDM just happens to have a config for it.. port 6000 is considered a big security hole.
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[21:39] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: 1920x1080
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: at 75hz
[21:40] <mike__> *as not are
[21:41] <dr_willis> You can install the old gdm on ubuntu i belive..
[21:41] <_d4vid> ActionParsnip, the problem is not a resolution .. borderless display is not complete
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> _d4vid: is there an OSD on the screen to stretch it out?
[21:43] <ancient_> Hello, Anyone know how to use a  device called G-raid, i can get it  to mount  and  see the  folders in the drive  but when i try to  write to it I get  I/O error
[21:46] <mike__> ancient_: Have you mounted the device with write permissions?
[21:46] <ancient_> yes , i think i did  will check
[21:47] <unknow> hi
[21:47] <gd515> does anyone know a easy fix for this http://askubuntu.com/questions/36820/how-to-make-youtube-fullscreen-actually-fullscreen  I tried something things there but im not understanding or getting it ?
[21:48] <ancient_> it  has permissions to  read  / write
[21:49] <unknow> I have a laptop with win7 and ubuntu 10.4. I installed ubuntu 12 and had to create partition. It asked for "Root mount point" and I choose "/" is this correct? also the new ubuntu does appear on grub menu. thaks
[21:49] <excelsior> help! I need to get the monitor preferences on my laptop screen, for some reason it started up on the extended screen
[21:49] <gd515> yes thats right unknow
[21:49] <unknow> *doesn'y***
[21:49] <gd515> try easyBCD
[21:49] <unknow> doesn't***
[21:52] <dr_willis> excelsior:  if using unity the workspace switcher icon shows the desktops in a grid, you can drag windows around with that to other desktops/monitors i belive
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> unknow, Are you having a problem?
[21:52] <excelsior> dr_willis: I closed it, unplugged the cable, started it, and it came up fine
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> unknow: you will need to set the partition  you want to use as / to be formatted and set to Ext4
[21:53] <dr_willis> unknow:  / is known as the 'root' of the os. yes.
[21:53] <dr_willis>  / = root partition.
[21:53] <dr_willis> not to be confused with roots home which is /root/
[21:53] <mike__> ancient_: Sorry I should have asked my previous question better. Does the mountpoint and filesystem (shares/folders etc) have write permissions. P.s. I'm assuming we're talking about one of these? http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-raid.cfm
[21:53] <excelsior> Now IRCcasting LIVE from Google, It's the New York Linux User Group, featuring Python for Big Data!
[21:53] <ancient_> from term :   drwxrwxrwx   1 root root  4096 Nov 28  2011 ExtRaid/
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: do you have a support question?
[21:54] <gd515> sent you a PM unknow
[21:55] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: I'll let you know when I do! :) In the meanwhile I'll take it to ubuntu-offtopic!
[21:55] <ancient_> not shure how to read pm
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: thanks :)
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> !cookie > gd515
[21:57] <gd515> how can i get stuff fullscreen on videos i have multi monitor and im having no luck ?
[21:57] <dr_willis> gd515:  whats your video chipset/drivers and what player?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> gd515: if you click the fullscreen button, what happens?
[21:57] <OerHeks> gd515 on that link you gave, try the HTML5 optin, enable it @ http://www.youtube.com/html5
[21:58] <gd515> i have a nvidia card , its actually like youtube or any other website wont work
[21:58] <gd515> OerHeks that works but how about other sites ?
[21:58] <mike__> ancient_: OK, I presume that's the directory that the device is mounted to (i.e. under /mnt or /media). What does the "mount" give you? Is option "rw" against the device.
[21:59] <OerHeks> gd515, only @ youtube, not on other sites AFAIK
[21:59] <gd515> actionparsnip it stretches it out horizontal cuz of the resolution on my second monitor
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> gd515: does it affect all browsers?
[22:00] <zykotick9> gd515: i have issues with fullscreen webvideo with my multi-monitor setup as well :|  (i have 2 different resolutions, and i believe that is the source of many of my issues.  btw, web video works ok fullscreen on my smaller monitor - but not the big one.  WEIRD half-screen playback and craps on the big one...
[22:00] <dr_willis> gd515:  you are using the nvidia drivers? You have twinview enabled?
[22:00] <gd515> it does that in firefox and chromium
[22:01] <dr_willis> gd515:  I tend to use a 'flashvideoreplacer' extension for firefox that plays flash in vlc or totem or mplayer. ;) so i may have just never noticed the issue..
[22:01] <gd515> same here zykotick9
[22:01] <mike__> ancient_: sorry that was supposed to read ..."mount" command...
[22:02] <gd515> im using seperate x
[22:02] <dr_willis> ive never seen a need for seperate X.. odd that its having any issues at all really with Seperate X displays
[22:03] <zykotick9> gd515: if you're using sepeartex it should work.  i never use seperate, only twinview.
[22:03] <gd515> mmm just a min
[22:05] <gd515> where do i go to check if i have seperate X or twin im sure im on seperate
[22:06] <zykotick9> gd515: what's your video card?
[22:06] <dr_willis> gd515:  can you drag a window from one monitor to the other?
[22:06] <gd515> Nvidia geforce 9800 GTX
[22:06] <gd515> yes
[22:06] <zykotick9> gd515: use nvidia-settings
[22:07] <dr_willis> then you are either using twinview, or just xinerama
[22:07] <dr_willis> NOT seperate X displays
[22:07] <gd515> ok its TwinView
[22:07] <dr_willis> run nvidia-settings and be sure twinview is enabled. ;) not just xinerama.
[22:07]  * zykotick9 notes that twinview is nvidia's propritary version of xinerama
[22:07] <gd515> says configuration Twinview
[22:08] <tudrom> my 8gb mini-sd cannot be unmounted, i tried to format it with mkfs, but the feedback is unable to open /dev/sdc
[22:08] <gd515> dr_willis so will that flashvideoreplacer fix that web video issue?
[22:09] <dr_willis> gd515:  i watch all my flash videos in vlc. no hassles here.
[22:09] <zykotick9> tudrom: FYI! you format partitions (sdc1) not drives sdc
[22:09] <gd515> is that a extension ?
[22:10] <dr_willis> https://github.com/webgapps/flvideoreplacer
[22:10] <dr_willis> yes...
[22:10] <dr_willis> or i use the various flash-downloaders to just download flash and watch them that way
[22:10] <dr_willis> i rarely watch them in the browser with flash  these days
[22:11] <Offlein> I am using xbindkeys to rebind my audio play/pause key to send a custom command to a program that doesn't catch it by default. I also want it to do the original command as well, but I don't know how to make it send the "default" command -- does anyone know?
[22:11] <tudrom> ok, now it's /dev/sdc1 contains a mounted file system - by the way its not unmountable with gparted and disk utility
[22:12] <gd515> dr_willis what do i do with it when i download it ? i went to the mozilla site and its bn removed
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Offlein: its one or the other, You could add the windows key to your shortcut
[22:12] <jrib> Offlein: what's the default command?
[22:13] <zykotick9> tudrom: from terminal "mount | grep -i sdc"
[22:13] <Offlein> ActionParsnip: I would just make a script that does the new command plus the old ... whatever-it-is. (Ideally there's a "command" being executed by default, but I don't really know.
[22:13] <Offlein> jrib: I don't know. But it play/pauses all normal media players
[22:13] <jrib> Offlein: it's probably just some other daemon catching it
[22:13] <Offlein> By default in Ubuntu if I download Banshee, Clementine, Rhythmbox, or whatever, they all automatically respond to that.
[22:14] <Offlein> jrib: Right! Is there any sort of way to trace down what is catching it?
[22:14] <jrib> Offlein: I don't know of a good way offhand.  But maybe try having your xbindkeys command emit that button press again (I think this will put it in some infinite loop, but hey might as well try)
[22:15] <tudrom> '/dev/sdc1 on /media/y>' is shown
[22:15] <Offlein> jrib yeah I suspect that will happen. But maybe if I have it emit that key first! And then do the next command.
[22:15] <zykotick9> tudrom: from terminal "sudo umount /media/y"
[22:15] <Offlein> jrib: I guess the next question is how to trigger a keyboard command via a script
[22:15] <dr_willis> gd515:  have firefox install it...
[22:15] <gd515> its bn removed from firefox
[22:15] <gd515> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/
[22:16] <jrib> Offlein: there are a few options.  You can use xmacroplay or xvkbd for example
[22:16] <dr_willis> gd515:  yes.. thats why i gave the download url...
[22:17] <Offlein> jrib: Right on. Thank you. Seems like there are a ton. I'll try it!
[22:17] <jrib> Offlein: an xvkbd example: /usr/bin/xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[Control_L]\[Page_Up]    And an xmacroplay example: echo ButtonPress 2 | xmacroplay -d 0 :0.0   (I don't know if either will work for you)
[22:18] <ZL1SH> ..
[22:19] <gd515> ok i need to figure out how to get firefox to install it i have it downloaded
[22:19] <jrib> Offlein: and yeah I'd be surprised if it doesn't start looping.  If it does the only thing I can think of doing is looking at all the running programs you have for your user, guess which one might be handling key presses, and then looking for documentation.  I haven't used unity/gnome in a while though, so I'm not sure.  It may even be cooked into the window manager or something which would make it more of a
[22:19] <dr_willis> gd515:  double click it.. drag drop onto firefox.. or use ff menus..
[22:19] <jrib> pain. Also, check if maybe the daemon just ends up using dbus somehow to communicate with the media players.  If such a thing exists, then you could just communicate through dbus yourself.
[22:19] <tudrom> zykotick: ok thats it - thanks for you help - but i dont understand why its not working with the gui programms
[22:19] <Offlein> jrib: Understood. I bet it's cooked into Unity or Compiz.
[22:19] <dr_willis> ff's add on page has a install from file item in
[22:20] <zykotick9> !tab | tudrom
[22:20] <jrib> Offlein: reading through http://wiki.videolan.org/DBus-spec might give some hints on the dbus front
[22:20] <Offlein> jrib: danke
[22:20] <shihan> anyone know how you disable ipv6 privacy extensions on 12.04?
[22:21] <gd515> ok i opened it and went to firefox folder and i draged the install.rdf onto firefox plugin window and it said it cant be installed it was currupted
[22:21] <Elvano> Hey guys, I know I've asked something simular before, but I have installed the Gnome3-shell on my Ubuntu 12.04. Can I remove the Unity-shell without ruining my ubuntu?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Elvano: the amount of space it uses is minimal, why not just leave it?
[22:23] <Elvano> I'm just curious, really.
[22:23] <nsaquatics> can the regular Ubuntu12.04LTS iso be used as a live CD?
[22:23] <dr_willis> Elvano:  just select the gnome-shell at the login screen and leave unity alone is the best way
[22:23] <iceroot> nsaquatics: yes
[22:23] <dr_willis> nsaquatics:  the desktop iso is a live cd.
[22:24] <jrib> Offlein: also, check out the mpris-remote package.  It may not be exactly how the media players are controlled now, but it may let you accomplish the same thing (control a bunch of media players in a uniform way (which is actually the goal of mpris))
[22:24] <Offlein> jrib: I think I may have it!
[22:24] <nsaquatics> iceroot, dr_willis thanks..
[22:24] <Offlein> jrib: I will look into that if not
[22:24] <daddyalvey> I can't seem to get unityshell to stop crashing.
[22:25] <Offlein> jrib: seemingly if I do this command: dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.clementine /org/mpris/MediaPlayer2 org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.Player.PlayPause specifically Clementine will play/pause. So I may be able to work with this
[22:25] <jrib> Offlein: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1797848 script for controlling dbus that may give additional hints
[22:25] <jrib> s/dbus/spotify
[22:25] <jrib> Offlein: ok, I will stop spamming you now :)
[22:25] <Offlein> jrib: .......Well this last script does 100% exactly what I wanted.
[22:25] <daddyalvey> I believe its subpar hardware but Im not sure
[22:26] <Offlein> I'm trying to control both Spotify -- which has no interface -- and everything else
[22:26] <Offlein> and so .. here we are.
[22:26] <Offlein> The new way I just figured is simpler, but this looks more elegant.
[22:26] <jrib> Offlein: I'd still check out mpris-remote though
[22:26] <gd515> Thanks Dr_willis that solved it
[22:27] <Offlein> it could be very edifying
[22:27] <gd515> thats a nice extension
[22:27] <Elvano> Thanks @ dr_willis, ActionParsnip
[22:28] <qaz> hi
[22:29] <gd515> hi qaz
[22:29] <daddyalvey> well that was helpful.
[22:30] <lorddelta> Greetings, I've just temporarily recovered from an internet outage problem. I don't know what cause the issue, but I suspect it has something to do with dnsmasq and bad configuration scripts. I'm leaving soon, but if anyone might know of a solution I can look into...I'll try updating packages etc obviously, but my solution involved passing a parameter by hand to dnsmasq inorder to get nslookup to work correctly. =/
[22:31] <lorddelta> Anyways I've got 465 MB of updates to download apparently, and somewhere to be in half an hour.
[22:31] <lorddelta> Guess I'll come back later
[22:31] <daddyalvey> lorddelta: good luck with that
[22:34] <Elvano> I'm having a real problem as well, when I run the update manager it says "Not all updates can be installed" and gives me th option of 'partially upgrade'. When I choose this he'll give me an error 'Could not calculate the upgrade'
[22:34] <gd515> is it necessary to run a firewall in ubuntu or a virus protector ?
[22:34] <tsimpson> gd515: short answer: no
[22:34] <Elvano> A firewall is always recommended, no?
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[22:34] <gd515> i herd firestarter was good but wasnt sure
[22:34] <silverslimer> gd515, no
[22:35] <blackshirt> gd515, its depends on your need
[22:35] <gd515> Thanks
[22:35] <silverslimer> gd515, nothing is necessary but a firewall is always a good idea
[22:35] <silverslimer> anti-virus isn't
[22:35] <tsimpson> you only need a firewall when you have things that listen over the network. nothing that listens over the network is installed by default
[22:35] <tsimpson> *stuff that listens over the network that you don't want to be accessible from the outside
[22:36] <gd515> still trying to get the hang off dropping windows
[22:37] <blackshirt> gd515, make community as a friends would help you much
[22:39] <qaz> I havea debian server with a usb printer , I can print no problem from windows, debian and mac os x and in the last 2 I use  the dnssd but in ubuntu i need to use the http://ip:631/printers/myprinter .Is the dnssd bronken in 12.10?
[22:39] <onekstag> hi
[22:39] <gd515> i know when im installing something in ubuntu i use the apt-get install command but is there a way to search for the install script or is that something you have to know ? Like if i want to install TOR and i dont know the apt-get install for it can i use the terminal to find the name of its package its under . Hope that makes sense
[22:40] <jrib> !apt | gd515
[22:40] <qaz> @ gd515 apt-cache search
[22:40] <jrib> gd515: apt-cache search
[22:41] <gd515> thanks
[22:41] <blackshirt> hi onekstag
[22:42] <qaz> np
[22:43] <silverslimer> gd515, apt-cache search
[22:43] <silverslimer> oh whoops. excuse my lateness
[22:44] <gd515> ;-) that helps knowing that cuz i search for the apt off the net when i dont know it
[22:44] <qaz> anyone got problem with dnssd in 12.10?
[22:45] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:45] <blackshirt> WeThePeople: hi
[22:46] <gd515> ok well im heading out , thanks for the help and talk to you all later
[22:46] <Harlingen> Hey guys
[22:47] <nsaquatics> ok, so if my system won't boot from the live Cd I made (Ubuntu 12.04LTS ISO) can I format a harddisk, boot to it then repair the grup install on my mirror?
[22:47] <Harlingen> Is unbuntu worth it on a HP Mini?
[22:49] <silverslimer> nsquatics: if ubuntu doesn't boot the live cd, i get the impression ubuntu in general won't work on your system
[22:49] <Harlingen> Does anyone know what I'm saying here?
[22:49] <Harlingen> lol
[22:50] <i7c> Harlingen: naah, what do you mean "worth it" ?
[22:50] <silverslimer> harlingen: what are the specs on your hp mini?
[22:51] <jim__> hello, im having some issues with what apears to be compiz on a fresh install. X is not really useable at the moment, i was wondering if someone could help?
[22:51] <jenia> hello everyone. im using the find command as such:
[22:51] <jenia> find . -newer barrier.file
[22:51] <jenia> and barrier.file is this:
[22:52] <jenia> touch -t 09131700 barrier.file
[22:52] <dr_willis> Harlingen:  ubuntu works well on my 2 netbooks
[22:53] <drupin> i installed ubuntu on flash drive...
[22:53] <nsaquatics> silverslimer, it does work on my system, it's been running so far. I cloned the OS disk to a Mirror array and now I am trying to get to boot from it.
[22:53] <drupin> it just freezes to blank
[22:53] <drupin> after some time
[22:55] <silverslimer> nsaquatics so what are you trying to do then?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> jim__, Can you use the 2d option in the login and update and check for any graphic references in additional drivers
[22:55] <silverslimer> aw nevermind
[22:56] <jim__> wilee-nilee: the current session is set to auto login, current prorietary drivers are updated
[22:56] <nsaquatics> silverslimer, was that nevermind geared at me? Customer brb.
[22:56] <jim__> wilee-nilee: is there a way i can get the apport log in a pastebin without X?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> jim__, Ah, well that is about all about anything graphic, my stuff always just runs.
[22:57] <jim__> wilee-nilee: or a way to disable auto login via CLI?
[22:58] <tking> hi guys, if i hold ctrl key for some seconds and release i get an animation in round dangling around the pointer of my mouse on screen how do i stop it?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> jim__, web link suggests gnome-session-quit http://askubuntu.com/questions/15795/how-can-you-log-out-via-the-terminal
[23:01] <jim__> wilee-nilee: thank you, cant exactly click a link atm though. ill give it a shot
[23:02] <drupin> i installed ubuntu on flash drive... it just freezes to blank after some time
[23:02] <tking> if i press control key for 4 seconds and release i see a round circle around the mouse pointer like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-13%2023%3A59%3A45.png
[23:02] <jim__> wilee-nilee: no luck... im gonna brb
[23:03] <bytesaber_work> how do i restart cinnomonbun on the commnd line (ctrl alt F2)
[23:03] <bytesaber_work> it's says can't find display
[23:03] <dr_willis> whats cinnomonbun ?
[23:03] <bytesaber_work> cinnamon
[23:03] <bytesaber_work> (whatever it's called0
[23:04] <bytesaber_work> i want to run "cinnamon --replace"
[23:04] <dr_willis> its your X desktop.. restart X... and its not really supported here. ;)
[23:04] <bytesaber_work> it's X that failed, not cinnamon?
[23:04] <dr_willis> No idea if it supports the --replace option
[23:04] <jim__> back, anyone able to help disabling auto login?
[23:04] <jim__> via command line
[23:04] <dr_willis> if X failed you wouldent be seeing anything except the login screen restarting
[23:04] <dr_willis> jim__:  its in the lightdm.conf file i belive
[23:04] <jrib> jim__: I guess check ~/.dmrc and /etc/lightdm/*
[23:04] <bytesaber_work> i can see everytong.  mouse moves and all.   just can't click on anything
[23:05] <jim__> ty, checking now
[23:05] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  easiest would be to log out/restart X   'sudo service lightdm restart'
[23:05] <jrib> jim__: it's probably in the file dr_willis pointed out
[23:05] <bytesaber_work> but i don't wanna lose my save
[23:05] <bytesaber_work> normally when cinnomon hangs, i just press ALT F2
[23:05] <bytesaber_work> and it goes back
[23:05] <nsaquatics> ok, back
[23:05] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:   you could  just try running 'metacity' via alt-f2
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cinamomon isn't supported here
[23:06] <dr_willis> we dont know about cinnimon since its not an ubuntu app
[23:06] <bytesaber_work> ok
[23:06] <dr_willis> jim__:  my normal lightdm.conf -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203705/
[23:07] <nsaquatics> so it boots to the old harddrive but not the new so I was wondering why I can't just tell the old system (/dev/sda) to install the MBR and Grub onto the Mirror (/dev/sdb).
[23:07] <jim__> dr_willis: i appreciate that, but im in tmux and irssi atm due to lack us x usability... im reading the file right now
[23:07] <jamie_> help
[23:07] <dr_willis> jim__:  lynx works as a browser. in text mode. ;)
[23:07] <jamie_> i need halp
[23:08] <jrib> jamie_: we can only try to help you if you ask a question
[23:08] <jamie_> how do i find the inf file for my driver?
[23:08] <jim__> dr_willis: should it be "autologin-user=false" as oppsed to "=<username>"?
[23:08] <jrib> jamie_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:08] <jamie_> get my wireless working
[23:09] <dr_willis> jim__:  i imagine you can set it to false or just remove the line. I dont have the line in my config
[23:09] <jrib> !wireless | jamie_
[23:09] <jim__> dr_willis: ty, ill try commenting it out
[23:09]  * jrib wonders what happens if his username is "false"
[23:09] <jamie_> Guide didn't work, it told me to find the driver which I couldn't do
[23:09] <jamie_> I downloaded one from realtek but there's no inf file
[23:10] <jim__> dr_willis: gonna give her a reboot, be back soon
[23:11] <dr_willis> jrib:  i recall a bug in earlier ubuntu installers that let you make a user named 'root' ;)
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jrib: haha
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: what wifi chip are you using?
[23:11] <jrib> dr_willis: ha, hadn't seen that one
[23:11] <jamie_> Realtek 8723e
[23:11] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: hi
[23:12] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: how to activate sound before login screen
[23:12] <Dice-Man> ?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: that is default, pulse has already started
[23:13] <dr_willis> Dice-Man:  ive noticed i dont have any login sounds  or any sounds untill i login either. :) I consider that a feature.
[23:13] <jim__> dr_willis: that did work, I am now in unity2D
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network    and give the product line of the wifi adapter please
[23:13] <dr_willis> somthing to do with me using HDMI, i noticed i do get sound when not using hdmi audio
[23:13] <jim__> dr_willis: i'm going to try to make sense of the compiz crash now
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2017622&highlight=8723&page=3  maybe..
[23:14] <jamie_> I don't understand any of that
[23:15] <jamie_> It says it's unclaimed and by Realtek\
[23:15] <jim__> anyone have an idea how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1203715/
[23:16] <dr_willis> jim__:  looks to me like those lines just say. 'its compiz that crashed'
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> jim__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:17] <jim__> ActionParsnip: precise
[23:17] <jim__> dr_willis: i got that far :P
[23:17] <jamie_> ActionParsnip_: I found the file from realtek that is supposed to contain the driver but there's just a bunch of .h and .c files in it
[23:17] <dr_willis> thats all it says jim__  any actual error messages would be somewhere else i imagine
[23:18] <jim__> ah, loading the crash report
[23:19] <jenia> hello when i use find with -regex it doesnt work as i expect it to
[23:19] <jrib> jenia: ok
[23:19] <jenia> for example find . -regex "[a-z]*"
[23:19] <jenia> should probably return files like hello.txt
[23:20] <jenia> and so on
[23:20] <jenia> why doesnt it work
[23:20] <jamie_> Can anyone halp me?
[23:20] <jamie_> with wireless driver issues?
[23:20] <jrib> jenia: the . I guess
[23:21] <lotuspsychje> jamie_:describe your problem please
[23:21] <jenia> i mean this:
[23:21] <jenia> for example find . -regex "[a-z].*"
[23:21] <jenia> this mean any letter followed by anything
[23:22] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: I can't find the inf file needed to use with Windows Wireless Drivers
[23:22] <jenia> now i have a file called hello.txt there
[23:22] <jenia> and it normally should be returned
[23:22] <lotuspsychje> jamie_:this is an ubuntu support channel here
[23:22] <jrib> jenia: there are two things I think you don't understand.  One you need to match the ./ (find will match against the whole path I believe) and 2) [a-z]* will not match .txt because it doesn't match '.'
[23:22] <lotuspsychje> jamie_:join ##windows
[23:22] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: I know, I am on ubuntu
[23:23] <qa_> Cannot umount . Please help
[23:23] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: Wireless is fine on windows but right now on Ubuntu it does not work
[23:23] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: the only files in the folder for Realtek 8723e are .h and .c
[23:23] <dr_willis> [0-9a-z_]   or  \w    Matches any alphanumeric character including underscore
[23:23] <jenia> find . -regex "[a-z].*"
[23:23] <magicalChicken> jamie_: you need to compile the driver
[23:23] <lotuspsychje> jamie_:did you download the linux drivers from realek website?
[23:23] <jrib> jenia: why do you keep repeating that?
[23:24] <qa_> root@Dell-R210:/# umount 10.25.11.221:/SHARE1
[23:24] <qa_> umount: cannot umount 10.25.11.221:/SHARE1 -- 10.25.11.223:/SHARE1 is mounted over it on the same point.
[23:24] <jenia> because i've put a .* there
[23:24] <jenia> it will match anything
[23:24] <jrib> jenia: you're still not matching the initial "./"
[23:24] <the8thbit> In Transmission, is it possible to kick peers that aren't uploading at a certain speed, either manually or automatically?
[23:24] <jamie_> I have the folder which contains the drivers for other chips including mine, so yes
[23:24] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: how do i compile it?
[23:24] <jenia> haha
[23:24] <jenia> thanks
[23:24] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:set upload speed to 0
[23:24] <jenia> highly appriciated, but -name doesnt work like that i think
[23:24] <dr_willis> wow - find has some fancy features. ;)
[23:25] <dr_willis> find -regextype posix-extended -regex '.*[1234567890]'
[23:25] <jrib> jenia: right.  But see the man page, it gives some examples about using regex
[23:25] <battlehands> how do I uninstall matlab from my computer?
[23:25] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje: Why would that help me?
[23:25] <dr_willis> battlehands:  how did you install it?
[23:25] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:after the torrent completed it wont upload (with speed 0)
[23:26] <jrib> dr_willis: I'd really love to see the revision history of some of these core programs with a million features (like find)
[23:26] <lotuspsychje> jamie_:maybe magicalChicken can help you?
[23:26] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: Where is this person?
[23:26] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje: That's not what I want to do, though. I want to only connect to peers that ARE uploading, and are uploading at a certain minimum speed (say, 10 kbps, not that much, but something)
[23:26] <battlehands> dr_willis: through terminal using the dvd.  However, I screwed up the directories and just want to uninstall and reinstall.
[23:27] <warddr> Hello all, I've got a strange problem, I just installed my laptop and everything works fine, except my wireless network doesn't work. If I, however, run sudo iwlist scan I can see all wireless networks in the neightbourhood. Anyone any idea?
[23:27] <dr_willis> battlehands:  then you should check its docs and see if whatever installer app you used 'trough the terminal' has an uninstall feature
[23:27] <WeThePeople> the8thbit, see #trnasmission
[23:27] <jamie_> magicalChicken: how to compile driver?
[23:27] <WeThePeople> #transmission*
[23:27] <the8thbit> WeThePeople: Thanks, I asked in there as well. :)
[23:27] <warddr> so the problem is I don't see them in the network-manager
[23:28] <battlehands> dr_willis: I just used ./install_matlab.sh, but there is no uninstall file to be found
[23:28] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:so you mean you want to download yourself only to seeding peers?
[23:28] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje: I don't mind downloading from leachers as well, as long as they're throwing something back up
[23:28] <the8thbit> but yeah, essentially
[23:29] <the8thbit> Im essentially saying that I only want to seed to people who are also seeding back
[23:29] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:not sure thats possible as the peers are random
[23:29] <dr_willis> battlehands:  its a bit beyond the scope of this channels support. the matlab docs/faq/forums most liikely say how to Uninstall it.. or the installer may even have the option
[23:29] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:you can click the torrent asking for more peers, but i dont think it will choose only seeding ones
[23:29] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje: Yes, but after I acquire them I can see their up/down speed, right? I just dont know how to kick them
[23:29] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje: yeah, I know about that
[23:30] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit:i think your best bet is grab newest torrents that go fast
[23:32] <warddr> Hello all, I've got a strange problem, I just installed my laptop and everything works fine, except my wireless network doesn't show up in network-manager. If I, however, run sudo iwlist scan I can see all wireless networks in the neightbourhood. Anyone any idea?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> warddr: if you use a wired connection and get fully updated, does it help
[23:32] <warddr> ActionParsnip, I did that, there were no updates to be installed (installed them during the installation)
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> warddr: what wifi chip do you use?
[23:33] <silverslimer> (if they installed during the install, the wifi clearly worked)
[23:33] <warddr> some intel chip, I have used it with ubutnu before
[23:34] <warddr> and indeed, it is working
[23:34] <silverslimer> did you install more than once with the same result every time?
[23:34] <jamie_> ActionParsnip: how do I compile a driver
[23:35] <abhinavmehta> I've a folder named 'xyz', trying to make a tar…so I did: $ tar -cvzf myTar.tar xyz/.….and got the myTar.tar………….but now if I do $tar -zxvf myTar.tar, it returns folder named "xyz 2"…why???
[23:35] <abhinavmehta> there is no folder named xyz in the tar directory.
[23:35] <warddr> silverslimer, I had a running installation, now bought an SSD and installed again. With the other disk it is still working.
[23:36] <warddr> and even using commandline I can scan for networks just fine
[23:36] <abhinavmehta> or better, before untar-operation I manually removed(rm -rf) xyz-folder.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: the link I gave tells you
[23:38] <fn0rd> I have a multi-monitor set up. Using unity on 12.01 here. When I draw a window to the top of the left monitor, presumably to maximize it, it maximizes into the right monitor instead.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> warddr: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network    and tell us the chip please
[23:39] <fn0rd> How can I change the behavior so it maximizes into the monitor I intended?
[23:39] <lotuspsychje> warddr:what ssd brand on wich ubuntu version?
[23:39] <bazhang> fn0rd, 12.04 or 12.10
[23:39] <fn0rd> oh wait
[23:39] <fn0rd> 12.04
[23:40]  * fn0rd checked lsb-release
[23:40] <fn0rd> s/draw/drag/
[23:40] <qa_> Please help! unable to umount
[23:40] <qa_> root@Dell-R210:/# umount /IONFS1
[23:40] <qa_> umount.nfs: /IONFS1: device is busy
[23:40] <qa_> umount.nfs: /IONFS1: device is busy
[23:40] <qa_> umount.nfs: /IONFS1: device is busy
[23:40] <qa_> umount.nfs: /IONFS1: device is busy
[23:40] <FloodBot1> qa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <fn0rd> qa_: lsof
[23:41] <warddr> lotuspsychje, kingston V-series 64GB, ActionParsnip: Centrino Advanced-N 6205
[23:41] <lotuspsychje> warddr:happy with ubuntu boot speeds on kingston?
[23:41] <fn0rd> The weird part is, the window outline is drawn on the appropriate screen.
[23:41] <qa_> hi
[23:41] <fn0rd> He maximize however, happens on the wrong screen.
[23:42] <warddr> lotuspsychje, It's quite ok
[23:42] <warddr> but I am only testing it for a couple of hours
[23:42] <jamie_> ActionParsnip: I keep getting "E: unable to locate package linux-headers-uname -r"
[23:42] <warddr> *i've only been
[23:42] <fn0rd> Of course, until I've maximized one on the other monitor. Weird.
[23:42] <dr_willis> jamie_:  i think you are misstyping the line, missing some ` (backticks)
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> warddr: using the iwlagn driver?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[23:45] <fn0rd> ah ha, but when I use a keybinding, via compiz config settings manager
[23:45] <fn0rd> it maximizes to the appropriate screen
[23:45] <jamie_> ActionParsnip: I got that to work but "cd ~/realtek/etc...." doesn't work
[23:45] <warddr> ActionParsnip, I fixed it, found on some forum to edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  , changed managed to true
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> warddr: nice :)
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: did you download the source package?
[23:46] <jamie_> ActionParsnip: Yes, it's in archive manager
[23:47] <fn0rd> omg
[23:48] <fn0rd> try this:ctrl + super + alt + <numpad keys>
[23:48] <fn0rd> in unity
[23:48] <fn0rd> :)
[23:51] <nydel> dr_willis: fyi, the only solution i found to meta package removal is to search http://packages.ubuntu.com & remove them manually.
[23:52] <bazhang> nydel, there's also the purexfce etc links
[23:52] <bazhang> !purexfce | nydel
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: you'll need to extract it to where you can work with the files
[23:55] <nydel> bazhang: thanks i was not aware of these. i am trying to remove the meta package ubuntustudio-audio
[23:55] <battlehands> I would like to get an icon/shortcut for matlab for lubuntu.  I followed the steps on the website and It got an icon, but the icon is for 2011, not 2010, and doesn't work
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: copy one of the desktop files from ~/.config/autostart   and modify it to how you want
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: you can modify the lines to run the command as well as the other details
[23:57] <Presonus_Probs> Hi roomies :) first time user here, sorry if im in the wrong channel, I'm trying to find support for firewire with UbuntuStudio, already asked #UbuntuStudio with no love
[23:59] <phyrexianslug> Tried this already? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire