[07:02] <tamotsukun> Good morning! ^^
[07:06] <tamotsukun> Has anyone experience with calling the UO API in Objective-C? :)
[07:13] <tamotsukun> Somehow, after signing in (and receiving the access token and secret) I don't need to pass the token to the API since I get proper responses even without it. oO
[07:14] <tamotsukun> I mean, I sign in (OAuth) and can get my quota via "https://one.ubuntu.com/api/file_storage/v1" without passing the at with the request ...
[08:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[08:15] <tamotsukun> Good morning^^
[08:23] <tamotsukun> jo^^
[08:34] <tamotsukun> If I may repeat my question, has anyone here experience with calling the UO API in Objective-C? :)
[09:01] <mandel> tamotsukun, you will have to wait 'til the morning in the usa, the ios developer do have that experience
[09:07] <tamotsukun> Mandel, thank you. :)
[09:07] <tamotsukun> I thought so, too. But I wanted to try my luck! ^^
[09:11] <keepbro> hi guys - Ive got a small problem - Im trying to setup my ubuntuone accoubt and I entered my email and details but it hasnt sent me a verification code - have I done something wrong?
[09:15] <keepbro> is anyone in here?
[09:15] <keepbro> guess not
[09:15] <tamotsukun> I the USA it's still early in the morning :)
[09:16] <keepbro> oh yeah - sorry uk time
[09:16] <keepbro> ill ask later
[09:16] <keepbro> ciao
[09:16] <tamotsukun> ciao
[11:11] <gatox> good morning!
[13:12] <alecu> hello, all!
[13:12] <alecu> ls -la
[13:12] <alecu> wrong window!
[13:12] <gatox> alecu, hi
[13:13] <gatox> alecu, -rw-rw-r--  1 gatox gatox  3548 Aug  3 11:35 run-tests.bat
[13:13] <gatox> drwxrwxr-x  7 gatox gatox  4096 Aug  3 11:35 tests
[13:13] <gatox> drwxrwxr-x  7 gatox gatox  4096 Aug  8 15:44 ubuntuone
[13:13] <gatox> ...
[13:13] <alecu> hi gatox
[13:13] <gatox> :P
[13:13] <alecu> I've been fighting all morning with my VPS, because quasselcore would not start :P
[13:13] <alecu> gatox: what's that?
[13:13] <gatox> ls -la :P
[13:14] <gatox> from u1-client
[13:15] <ralsina> alecu: want an account on my quasselcore?
[13:16] <alecu> ralsina: it was my burst vps acting weird. It took 3 minutes to login via ssh, and then after trying many things, it took more than 15mins for a reboot
[13:16] <ralsina> alecu: ouch
[13:16] <alecu> ralsina: anyway, I'm moving away from burst. It's been very slow for ages
[13:16] <ralsina> alecu: and since my vps is n the same company, probably not going to be much in the way of redundancy
[13:17] <ralsina> alecu: really? Mine has been nice.
[13:17] <alecu> (and as I type this, it seems to be fast now :P)
[13:17] <ralsina> hehe
[13:17] <alecu> bah, fast.
[13:17] <alecu> not as slow as before.
[13:17] <ralsina> alecu: sometimes it's a matter of changing nodes
[13:17] <ralsina> alecu: you can ask tech support to move you
[13:18] <alecu> ralsina: does that mean pointing my dns to the new ip?
[13:18] <mandel> alecu, did you get my mail?
[13:18] <ralsina> alecu: *maybe*
[13:18] <ralsina> alecu: I think they can move your IP with you
[13:19] <alecu> ralsina: too much trouble :-) I'll probably move out for good :P
[13:19] <mandel> alecu, did an update to your branch with the basic skeleton of the callabacks and with a callback that will give you the password that the user gave
[13:19] <alecu> ralsina: I also have an old tektonic account that's been reliable all this years. It's more expensive, but more it's been more responsive too.
[13:20] <ralsina> alecu: yes, I had my company on tektonic
[13:20] <alecu> mandel: great!
[13:20] <ralsina> alecu: it was reliable
[13:20] <ralsina> also, expensive :-)
[13:23] <alecu> mandel: ping
[13:23] <ralsina> dobey: ping when you are around
[13:24] <tamotsukun> Good morning
[13:25] <mandel> alecu, yes :)
[13:25] <mandel> ??
[13:25] <tamotsukun> Anyone here who has experience with the UO API in Objective-C? :)
[13:25] <dobey> ralsina: hi
[13:25] <alecu> mandel: I can't believe that nobody on that sprint is able to point you at what the problem with that preview that's not getting refresed
[13:25] <alecu> *refreshed
[13:27] <mandel> alecu, yes, they have no clue and other things to work on.. I know the correct generic preview is sent (from the model->title info) but have no idea where is the error, I'll keep digging since that is the last problem to solve, the rest is design
[13:28] <mandel> alecu, and although right now the preview is ugly (getting design specs soon) that is the last bug in the entire lens thing
[13:29] <alecu> mandel: awesome. I'll hook your password callback to the code that does the purchase webcall, and we are ready :P
[13:30] <mandel> alecu, awesome :) let me know if it makes sense, ideally you will get a HashMap with a string gvariant and can use it
[13:34] <tamotsukun> Nobody? :)
[13:35] <mandel> tamotsukun, lets ask urbanape
[13:35] <mandel> tamotsukun, I think we should know
[13:50] <alecu> tamotsukun: both of our iOS developers are on the US, so they probably have not started their work day yet.
[13:51] <alecu> tamotsukun: please try asking here again in a few hours.
[13:53] <tamotsukun> alecu, thank you. I will come back in a few hours! :)
[13:53] <tamotsukun> Have a nice day!
[13:59] <alecu> mandel: I'm getting this: /home/alecu/dash/source/unity/tests/test-gestures/compiz_mock/core/window.h:25:25: fatal error: core/window.h: No such file or directory
[13:59] <alecu> mandel: do you have any idea what I might be missing?
[14:00] <mandel> alecu, which branch?
[14:00] <mandel> sorry, stupid question, unity one
[14:01] <mandel> let me check, did you merge the branch with trunk?
[14:03] <alecu> mandel: yes
[14:03] <alecu> mandel: I updated trunk before doing it
[14:03] <mandel> alecu, let me update my tree and take a look
[14:03] <mandel> alecu, might have been something new that landed in trunk, is a moving target atm
[14:03] <alecu> mandel: I'll try unmerging, to see if trunk has the same issue.
[14:04] <mandel> alecu, ok, did the vala branch compile?
[14:07] <mandel> alecu, I need to update compiz to get trunk building, give me some mins
[14:21] <alecu> mandel: how are you updating compiz?
[14:23] <alecu> via a ppa or compiling from trunk?
[14:23] <mandel> alecu, ppa
[14:24] <mandel> alecu, I've got it compiling yet it was complaining that I was missing /usr/share/compiz/xslt/compiz_gsettings_schemas.xslt
[14:24]  * mandel misses python
[14:24] <alecu> mandel: lolz
[14:24] <alecu> mandel: rotflcopter
[14:24] <mandel> lol
[14:24] <alecu> mandel: I, on the other hand have acquired a fondness for Vala.
[14:25] <mandel> alecu, I'm not surprise compiling and complaining are so similar words..
[14:25] <alecu> mandel: as much as "programador Vala" sounds so awful in argentino.
[14:25] <mandel> alecu, yes, is not cpp!!! I would take vala any time over the::annoying->language.c_str()
[14:25] <alecu> mandel: in fact, I'm preparing a Lightning talk called "Vala for twisted programmers"
[14:25] <mandel> hahahaha
[14:26] <alecu> mandel: you have yield in vala! and something similar to @inlineCallbacks!
[14:26] <alecu> mandel: it's awesome!
[14:27] <mandel> alecu, and lambdas and delegates, so yes, it is a good wrapper around glib :)
[14:27] <mandel> alecu, I also discovered why they use ? when it is not needed (pointers) it generates extra code to ensure that you are ready for null
[14:29] <alecu> mandel: I think that's backwards: it checks for null when there is no ?. When there's a ?, the null check is skipped.
[14:30] <mandel> alecu, when you use ? it knows that it can get a null pointer, else it does not
[14:30] <mandel> and you can also do int?
[14:31] <alecu> mandel: right, and the "checks" for null are only present in the code when there is no "?"
[14:32] <dobey> alecu: in the generated C yes, but valac itself has checks for when you try to pass null into an argument that doesn't have the ?
[14:34] <dobey> alecu: so if you try to pass null in the vala code to something that doesn't allow null, you'll get a compile error from valac, rather than waiting for the program to fail when you run it
[14:35] <mandel> that is why I was trying to explain and failed
[14:37] <mandel> alecu, anyway, getting back to work, I have no problem compiling it with the unity staging ppa and Q
[14:37] <dobey> ralsina: is your internet behaving today?
[14:37] <ralsina> dobey: no, but I am in a very nice bar
[14:37] <ralsina> dobey: it crashes every day ~9AM and comes back ~11AM
[14:38] <ralsina> dobey: and has done that monday-friday for over a week
[14:38] <dobey> ralsina: one of your neighbors hijacking your connection to run a shady business for 2 hours?
[14:39] <ralsina> dobey: it's my working hypothesis, actually
[14:39] <ralsina> or rather, "neighbour doing something evil with an electrical device and fuzzying my phoneline"
[14:41] <dobey> i believe that is called brown boxing, in the official parlance
[14:44] <ralsina> I don't think it's intentional
[14:44] <ralsina> since the adsl modem has no link, it's completely useless for anyone, and you can't just hook another one in that line because it's uplink-locked
[14:45] <ralsina> and if someone managed to crack a adsl modem so it works on my line it would be *much* easier to just connect to my wifi, which has the password on the name as courtesy ;-)
[14:46] <dobey> heh
[14:48] <ralsina> so it would take a strange combination of genius and utter idiocy to steal my internet this specific way
[14:54] <alecu> ralsina: how are we doing the team meeting today? mumble? hangout? skype? teleportation pods?
[14:55] <ralsina> mumble
[14:55] <ralsina> my teleportation pod is at home
[14:55] <ralsina> paradoxical, I know
[14:57] <alecu> ack
[14:58] <mmcc> hi folks. just wrote nice notes for standup, before realizing it's Thursday
[14:58] <alecu> it gets really paradoxical with time machines. With teleportation pods things are usually more stable
[14:59] <alecu> mmcc: you can use them as notes for this meeting!
[14:59] <mmcc> alecu: nah, just gonna wing it
[14:59] <mmcc> gotta get one of those teleportation pods that teleports itself, too
[15:00] <alecu> yo dawg!
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:01] <ralsina> gatox: you mumble
[15:01] <gatox> :P
[15:01] <ralsina> I have exactly 31 minutes of battery left  :-)
[15:02] <dobey> assuming you're not using mumble on it
[15:02] <dobey> joshuahoover, thisfred: mumble?
[15:02] <ralsina> also, you will listen some nice soothing bossa nova, since I am on a cafe
[15:02] <joshuahoover> dobey: yep, let me get my headset on...one min.
[15:02] <thisfred> on my way
[15:03] <dobey> all i hear is line noise from the power supply in my speakers
[15:03] <ralsina> can anyone hear me?
[15:03] <dobey> very noisy
[15:04] <dobey> too much gain or so
[15:22] <dobey> for some reason mumble decided push to talk meant push to do nothing, today
[15:27] <ralsina> dobey: are 6+ hour delays on PPA builds the standard?
[15:27] <ralsina> or did I choose a very bad day to try my hand at packaging? ;-)
[15:29] <dobey> ralsina: which PPA are you building in? your own?
[15:29] <ralsina> dobey: yes
[15:30] <dobey> ralsina: it might have a lower build score, so might take longer; but i had a couple of nightlies builds say "6 hours" yesterday, but didn't take that long
[15:30] <dobey> ralsina: it will take a while still, but it might not actually take 6+ hours
[15:31] <ralsina> dobey: it already has been there 5:30 and says 30 minutes :-)
[15:31] <ralsina> dobey: it's ok, I am not in a hurry at all
[15:31] <dobey> it's not 'normal' i guess, but some of the builders are disabled
[15:31] <dobey> ah ok
[15:32] <dobey> ralsina: part of the problem is also that some jobs which are arch-independent still only build on i386; so all the python-only code and the recipe source package creation, and translation templates imports stuff, all runs on the i386 builders; which can clog them up a bit too
[15:33] <dobey> anyway, need to get lunch here. bbiab :)
[15:34]  * gatox lunch + errands
[15:34]  * ralsina looks at the battery... 3minutes (those are long minutes!)
[15:34] <ralsina> anyway, lunch sounds good
[15:50] <alecu> mandel: did you get past the xslt issue?
[15:50] <mandel> alecu, yes, I compiled everything with no problem, do you have issues?
[15:50] <mandel> alecu, by they way, I simply copied the missing xlt from the compiz src
[16:01] <alecu> mandel: that seems to work. I'll have to wait for an hour for compiz to compile first :P
[16:01]  * alecu grabs his plastic sword. COMPILE!
[16:02] <mmcc> alecu, is that this sword: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Purple_dragon_book_b.jpg ?
[16:03] <mandel> If you see mi going on an off it means that my nvidia drivers are going crazy due to unity
[16:10] <alecu> mmcc: lol. It's this one: http://xkcd.com/303/
[16:11] <mmcc> alecu: oh right. :)
[16:16] <alecu> mandel: I got everything to compile
[16:16] <mandel> alecu, \o/
[16:16] <alecu> mandel: and I even got your screen displayed, with the info gotten from the webservices
[16:16] <alecu> mandel: so \o/ indeed
[16:16] <alecu> mandel: one thing: I can't see the input box for the password
[16:17] <mandel> alecu, yes, that is nux being an ass, I'm in the process of creating decoration so you can see the text entry
[16:17] <mandel> alecu, but is there, click between the two labels
[16:17] <mandel> alecu, that is the default text entry.. is between pathetic and depressing
[16:18] <alecu> mandel: doh, it's there, true!
[16:18] <alecu> mandel: thanks!
[16:19] <mandel> alecu, np, I spent hours thinking it was not there..
[16:19] <mandel> alecu, you should be able to do the full process while I make the preview better looking and show the other previews (cancel shows the last preview for example)
[16:21] <alecu> mandel: yes, I'll have lunch and will work on finishing the purchase
[16:22] <mandel> alecu, awesome then, it seems that we are going to be on time :)
[16:22] <alecu> mandel: we are going to have "something" on time.
[16:23] <alecu> mandel: we are a long bugfixing way of having it on time :-)
[16:25]  * briancurtin lunch + doctor run
[16:25] <mandel> alecu, well, yes, we wanted to have an example on time, bug are to be expected
[16:25] <mandel> alecu, specially when I had to fix a lot of little things within the dash
[16:26] <alecu> mandel: right!
[16:26] <alecu> mandel: got a minute for mumbling?
[16:31] <mandel> alecu, sure, let me reboot to mac os x :)
[16:32] <mandel> alecu, give me some mins, I managed to get from one preview to another \o/
[16:37] <mandel> alecu, mumble?
[16:40] <alecu> mandel: sure, let's
[16:40] <mandel> alecu, ok, launching mumble
[17:39] <mmcc> anyone currently have a mac handy to test creating a new account with the latest build?
[17:39] <mmcc> lisette ran across a problem with PIL loading one of its C modules, but it works fine for me… wondering if anyone else can reproduce
[17:39] <ralsina> mmcc: sorry, no, still at a bar :-(
[17:42] <gatox> backkkkk....... my laptop almost die :P
[18:21]  * briancurtin back
[18:28] <dobey> hmm
[18:31] <dobey> mmcc: do you have a link to the iconutils thing to convert PNG to icns on mac?
[18:32] <mmcc> dobey: a link to the docs? the tool itself is just installed in /usr/bin/iconutil
[18:32] <dobey> mmcc: yes. so i can see what all the arguments are/etc… i don't have a mac to look at :)
[18:33] <dobey> ah, hrmm; may have found a useful PDF from developer.apple.com
[18:33] <mmcc> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/HighResolutionOSX/Optimizing/Optimizing.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012302-CH7-SW2
[18:33] <mmcc> also, "Usage: iconutil --convert ( icns | iconset) [--output file] file"
[18:34] <dobey> thanks
[18:34] <mmcc> the docs say that -c is also OK:
[18:34] <mmcc> iconutil -c icns <iconset filename>
[18:35] <mmcc> and 'icon set filename' is actually a directory named something.iconset
[18:37] <dobey> yeah. thanks
[18:37] <dobey> and with that, brb
[19:58] <briancurtin> although i cant read most of the schedule, PyCon AR looks like it's going to be awesome given the names i recognize :)
[19:58] <ralsina> briancurtin: hopefully!
[19:59] <ralsina> after 15 years speaking in public this is the gig that makes me most nervous in ... about 14 of those years
[20:00]  * ralsina goes check that 15 number... DAMN make that 20
[20:01] <ralsina> looks like I got older while I was not looking
[20:03] <briancurtin> my age calendar often has off-by-one errors. usually the first few months of being some age i end up saying "i'm 27...oh, wait, 28"
[20:03] <ralsina> 27... ok, I am depressed now :-)
[20:03] <mmcc> briancurtin: mine just stopped at 30. I'm actually 33 but I always think I'm 30
[20:04] <chaselivingston> ralsina: if it makes you feel any better, I'm 22 :)
[20:04] <ralsina> chaselivingston: hmmm testing... nope. Now that means there is someone working here that could be my son.
[20:04] <dobey> how old is gatox? 15?
[20:04]  * ralsina feels like he's in Logan's Run now
[20:05] <gatox> dobey, heyyyyy... why? :(
[20:05] <chaselivingston> ralsina: haha, very nice
[20:05] <dobey> ralsina: RENEW! RENEW!
[20:05] <dobey> gatox: haha :)
[20:05] <ralsina> dobey: I think I will run away in my hovercar :-)
[20:05] <gatox> dobey, i'm 26
[20:05] <ralsina> dobey: also, knowing "RENEW, RENEW" means you could RENEW too ;-)
[20:06]  * dobey has Logan's Run on blu-ray
[20:07] <dobey> gatox: i guess it's not as fun to joke about you without mandel here too :)
[20:07] <gatox> dobey, yes jeejejej
[20:07] <gatox> dobey, mandel was really sad when he wasn't the youngest anymore
[20:08] <dobey> yeah
[20:08] <dobey> eh, when i started at HelixCode/Ximian/Novell way back in the day, i was 19.
[20:15] <mmcc> idea: USB punching bag with LCD screen that shows the name of the technology you currently most want to batter
[20:15] <mmcc> presently, ctypes
[20:18] <mmcc> specifically, if you have a ctypes Structure and typo '__fields__' instead of '_fields_', it just silently works…? except, is it the right type or not? argh
[20:31]  * gatox eod!! see you tomorrow people
[20:32] <ralsina> I have to go pickup my mom
[20:32] <ralsina> will be back much later
[20:56] <mmcc> lunch
[20:57] <beast_> hello everyone
[20:57] <beast_> im having a problem in ubuntu 12.04 x86
[20:58] <beast_> its taken me a few days to get wireless internet to work, and now that i did, the system is not loading the ndiswrapper module after a reboot.
[20:58] <beast_> how can i force or make the system load the module after every reboot?
[20:59] <chaselivingston> hi beast_, may i recommend checking out http://askubuntu.com
[21:04] <beast_> chaselivingston, thx ill give it a look see
[21:04] <chaselivingston> beast_: np :)
[21:07] <beast_> chaselivingston, unfortunately, im not finding anything there..
[21:07] <beast_> this is aggravating.
[21:08] <beast_> its taken me a few days just to get wireless to work. and now it doesnt want to work after a reboot unless i manually reload the module.
[21:08] <briancurtin> beast_: are there any other ubuntu channels you could try? this channel is specifically about the Ubuntu One product
[21:08] <chaselivingston> beast_: feel free to ask a question there, giving folks the opportunity to respond. http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask
[21:09] <beast_> briancurtin, i guess ill have to find out the hard way and type out the same question and un-numbered number of times to other people.
[21:09] <beast_> damnit.
[21:09] <beast_> thx anyways guys
[21:09] <beast_> adios
[21:13] <dobey> briancurtin, chaselivingston: if people ask general ubuntu questions in the future, just point them at #ubuntu instead
[21:13] <dobey> doh
[21:14] <dobey> eh, i need to go. gotta cut the grass^H^Hweeds before it gets dark
[21:18] <dobey> later
[23:49] <tamotsukun> Good evening, are there still some iOS developers around? :)