[00:36] <theater-dreamer> I see Xubuntu 12.10 will no longer have an alternate CD release: Is it going to have the same unified installer as Ubuntu (LVM and FDE as options)?
[00:37] <Unit193> Xubuntu has been using Ubiquity, so that'd be good.  Otherwise, you can use the !mini and install xubuntu-desktop in 12.10.
[00:39] <theater-dreamer> mhm... doesn't sound too bad.
[00:40] <theater-dreamer> We'll see how Ubiquity is in creating complex LVM/RAID/FDE configurations like debian-installer could.
[01:36] <gurrag> If I download a pre-release of 12.10 now, will it run the same later [with updates] as if I waited until the October release?
[01:37] <GridCube> no
[01:37] <GridCube> its a beta, stuff might be broken
[01:37] <GridCube> in fact, stuff is broken
[03:07] <johnscam> Can anyone tekk me how to connect wirelessly using 64WEP KEY?
[03:07] <johnscam> I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 and it doesn't allow me that option
[07:54] <ronin> I'm getting this kind of graphics errors in xubuntu http://imgur.com/8RRxg . It only comes sometimes in specific windows, and not just wine, but any software. Sometimes some icons on the desktop
[07:55] <ronin> does it sound like a software problem?
[09:03] <Mathias> topic should start with something like "no answers? please idle here"
[09:04] <bazhang> if you have a question, then ask it Mathias
[09:05] <Mathias> i don't but i saw ronin's question
[09:08] <shpank> normally you don't put such things in the topic
[09:08] <shpank> because it's usually the same everywhere
[09:11] <Marzata> topic, what topic?
[09:11] <bazhang>  /topic
[09:12] <Sysi> like anybody reads topic
[09:12] <bazhang> part of which reads: No one around? See the complete support methods list at http://xubuntu.org/help
[09:12] <bazhang> Marzata, ^
[09:19] <pimperle> is there a way to install xubuntu fully encrypted using the xts-plain cipher? the alternate install cd's kernel doesn't seem to support it.
[09:19] <pimperle> will the live cd installer be able to open the disk?
[09:23] <longwuyuan> hi. thanks tons to xubuntu, i got fglrx for my dell vostro 3450. but outlook in a vm is gentle on the eyes compared to thunderbird (even with theme & font sizer addon). does anyone have good suggestions for me to try
[09:25] <pimperle> longwuyuan: you might try evolution, ubuntus default client
[09:25] <ochosi> or claws-mail (although you probably won't like it if you want outlook-style)
[09:28] <longwuyuan> nothing to do with style. am having to deal with at least 300-400 emails everyday. so need more real-estate quality on 14" laptop screen
[09:29] <longwuyuan> the windows drivers in a vm seem to be able to render outlook more efficiently in a 1280x800 resolution of the vm
[09:30] <longwuyuan> native 1366x#### resolution on xubuntu is gret in xterm but painful on thunderbird
[09:31] <longwuyuan> i placed both windows one below another and compared real-estate. thunderbird fonts are less crisp :-( and anyone can guess how that feels having to use outlook
[09:32] <Sysi> change antialiasing settings in settings -> appearance
[12:22] <zloyded> hello
[12:24] <zloyded> why i install vmware workstation and after reboot my system has crashed... and cant load fro read logs...
[16:15] <martian> I just installed nautilus in xubuntu 12.04 and wish to change some advanced settings. I installed gconf-editor, but there is no nautilus node in there. Any suggestions?
[16:16] <Pici> martian: check dconf
[16:18] <martian> Pici: ahh, moved to xubuntu, or just idling in both channels?
[16:19] <martian> check it in what sense? it was not installed either, so upon installing it I should...
[16:19] <Pici> hm.
[16:19] <Pici> I was under the impression that stuff was being moved from gconf to dconf.
[16:19] <martian> ahh, dconf-editor :)
[16:20] <martian> Thanks!
[17:55] <DenSeaCaT> Hi guys. Would someone help me in tet-a-tet chat? WinXP + Xubuntu, formatted xubuntu partitions, and now grub not working
[17:56] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, explain further
[17:56] <GridCube> do you still have xubuntu installed? how do you formated? why you need grub if there is no xubuntu (in that case)?
[17:58] <DenSeaCaT> Ok. 1 Hdd. 2 NTFS partition(C with WInXP  \ and Dwith files ) , and 3 linux partitions, ext3 / , ext3 /home , swap
[17:58] <DenSeaCaT> formatted all ext 3 and swap
[17:58] <DenSeaCaT> and now my Winxp cant boot
[18:00] <GridCube> thats something to expect, you delete the /boot area that grub uses
[18:00] <DenSeaCaT> I want: WinXP, barter partiton(D) for files, and xubuntu PROPERLY installed
[18:00] <DenSeaCaT> I have 2 USB sticks with latest backtrak linux and xubuntu.
[18:01] <DenSeaCaT> What should I do now?
[18:01] <GridCube> you need a live cd, boot from it, edit your partitions using gparted, if wanted install xubuntu, else install boot-repair from its ppa and use it to create a new grub install
[18:01] <DenSeaCaT> Sorry, noob in linux, cant understand
[18:02] <DenSeaCaT> I'm now running  live usb xubuntu on this notebook.
[18:02] <GridCube> open gparted and edit the partitions you want to the way you want them to be
[18:02] <DenSeaCaT> can someone guide me step-by-step in PM please?
[18:02] <GridCube> its like using partition magic
[18:02] <DenSeaCaT> Ok, sec
[18:05] <DenSeaCaT> Opened gparted. another question. when i've  formatted linux partitions, and re-created them, i've installed xubuntu. but it didn't booted. I've broke somthing or what?
[18:07] <DenSeaCaT> just black screen appears, and  says: unknown file system, grub rescue
[18:08] <DenSeaCaT> Is it means that grub installed on C drive?
[18:09] <tsimpson> grub should be installed on the disk itself, not any particular partition
[18:09] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, :) wait a moment
[18:09] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, grub is a boot loader that installs itself and depends on grub config files that are at /boot, you formated the drive that had /boot on it
[18:09] <GridCube> so grub cant know whats going on
[18:10] <GridCube> you need to a) choose where to place grub b) make such place c) install grub
[18:10] <tsimpson> you need to stop using the word "drive" when you mean "partition" ;)
[18:10] <DenSeaCaT> tsimpson, it means, that grub installs himself not to one of partitions e.g. c/d/e, but on hided sector of hdd?
[18:10] <GridCube> tsimpson, good call
[18:11] <tsimpson> DenSeaCaT: yes, it should be on the physical hard drive, rather than one of the partitions on that hard drive
[18:11] <DenSeaCaT> wait. Drive - means HDD, right? And partitions means some sector on it?
[18:12] <tsimpson> windows like to pretend that partitions and hard-drive-disks are the same thing
[18:12] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, c/d/e are windows names, you need the /dev/paths to them on grub or even the hd(0,0) nubers
[18:12] <tsimpson> when you partition your HDD in windows, it shows those as different "drives" with letters
[18:13] <DenSeaCaT> C/D/E in windows are sdb/sdc/sde in linux?
[18:13] <GridCube> no
[18:13] <tsimpson> no, they can be, but usually not
[18:13] <GridCube> it depends
[18:14] <tsimpson> windows does not distinguish between a physical HDD and partitions on a HDD
[18:14] <v1adimir> DenSeaCaT: all you needed was empty space and the installer could've done it
[18:14] <DenSeaCaT> Russians O_o?
[18:15] <v1adimir> at large :P
[18:15] <DenSeaCaT> Private please?
[18:15] <v1adimir> uh i'm not really here- sorry! :S
[18:15] <DenSeaCaT> What it means?
[18:16] <v1adimir> no time, if you wanted to see about the issue, gotta leave the house any minute
[18:17] <DenSeaCaT> Oh. k. So. Wht i should do to fix all stuff, that i've broke?(format all HDD,install WinXP and forget about linux is not an option:) )
[18:18] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, you can install xubuntu again
[18:18] <GridCube> that will fix grubn
[18:18] <DenSeaCaT> already installed, but wont boot
[18:18] <GridCube> or you can install grub-repair and make it install it again
[18:18] <GridCube> !boot-repair
[18:18] <GridCube> mmm
[18:18] <DenSeaCaT> I can google that)
[18:19] <tsimpson> "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" usually, assuming your disk is called /dev/sda
[18:19] <GridCube> boot on a live cd and install this: https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[18:19] <GridCube> then run sudo boot-repair, fix the boot area, reboot, be happy
[18:20] <DenSeaCaT> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[18:21] <DenSeaCaT> I'm running live usb xubuntu right now, on this notebook that i've broke
[18:21] <GridCube> well, thats because you formated it
[18:21] <DenSeaCaT> But i've reinstalled xubuntu?
[18:21] <GridCube> apparently you didnt
[18:23] <DenSeaCaT> http://i008.radikal.ru/1209/ac/61e184b6b147.png
[18:24] <DenSeaCaT> xubuntu on sda7
[18:26] <DenSeaCaT> sudo apt-get install grub-repair won't work
[18:29] <GridCube> no
[18:30] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, did you add the ppa?
[18:30] <daxis> what's the deal with 12.04.1 not automounting usb drives? is there a quick fix for this?
[18:32] <Mathias> is there a quick way to switch between windows and xubuntu? rebooting takes too long time :P
[18:32] <daxis> virtualbox?
[18:33] <daxis> virtual machines are a bit slower, but they don't take as much time as rebooting
[18:33] <DenSeaCaT> GridCube yes
[18:33] <Mathias> daxis: playing games in VM's sucks :P
[18:34] <DenSeaCaT> terminal says E: Unable to locate package grub-repair
[18:34] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, :( well i dont know then
[18:34] <GridCube> !grub
[18:34] <GridCube> see the restore grub tutorial DenSeaCaT
[18:35] <daxis> Mathis: get two computers and a kvm. one mouse, one keyboard, one monitor (or two), two computers
[18:35] <daxis> perfect solution :P
[18:36] <Mathias> daxis: that would kind of work
[18:36] <daxis> Mathias: what are you needing to do?
[18:36] <Mathias> it would though be kind of unpractical to take a screen, a keyboard, a mouse, a kvm switch, two laptops and a generator everywhere :P
[18:37] <daxis> oh i was thinking of desktops
[18:37] <daxis> nvm then
[18:37] <daxis> hmmm
[18:37] <Mathias> playing world of tanks in wine doesn't go so well :P, and i don't like any media players in windoze :P
[18:37] <Mathias> and i switch a lot
[18:38] <daxis> well if you do gaming on windows, why not run linux in the vm?
[18:38] <Mathias> i actually haven't tried playing 1080p in xubuntu in a vm
[18:39] <Mathias> that could be tomorrows project :P
[18:39] <daxis> sounds like a plan!
[18:39] <Mathias> :P
[18:39] <daxis> well i've got class... i guess i'll be back later
[18:40] <Mathias> 13:40? :o
[18:40] <DenSeaCaT> i've did sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda1 and on sda2 , but it says  Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[18:40] <daxis> you got it
[18:40] <Mathias> 8 hours behind me :S
[18:40] <daxis> central time
[18:41] <daxis> later all
[18:45] <DenSeaCaT> Wow, looks like it works
[18:46] <DenSeaCaT> hmm. brb.
[18:49] <DenSeaCaT_> Worked. thanks guys)
[18:50] <DenSeaCaT_> Now i know, how matter usb stick with live xubuntu installed on it :D
[18:54] <DenSeaCaT_> I have some questons. what better for slow notebook(1ggz cpu/ 1gb ram, integrated videocard) xfce/lxde/ or something? because my noebook is SO slow. i want more speed
[18:56] <Mathias> lubuntu might be a better option
[18:57] <pcroque> After attempting to set some keyboard options, I get an error message everytime I start a terminal: "Illegal map name '(+v)+' in symbols name 'pc+us(+v)+inet(evdev)+compose(ralt)'" Any ideas on how to fix? I've purged xfce4-xkb-plugin already, set xfce4-keyboard-settings to let X manage the keyboard.
[18:57] <pcroque> I'm out of ideas.
[18:59] <DenSeaCaT_> I've tried to install it today, but it wont work. installer just showed me bunch of errors
[19:00] <DenSeaCaT_> failed to run partition manager blah blah blah, failed to run something else, blah blah. so i decided to install xubuntu
[19:02] <DenSeaCaT_> Mathias is there any other way to replace my xfce to lxde enviroment?
[19:02] <Mathias> don't know, i'm not an expert :P
[19:02] <DenSeaCaT_> tht's sad
[19:02] <Mathias> ask me next year :P
[19:02] <DenSeaCaT_> at next year hope i'll gonna know it by myself ;0
[19:12] <DenSeaCaT_> What name of xubuntu default network manager? ANd can I replace him with Wicd network manager?
[19:55] <blizzow> I downloaded the 12.10 alpha3 iso and installed it on a USB disk using usb-creator-gtk.  I told it to install the bootloader but when I try and boot a laptop from the usb drive, the laptop shows "This is not a boot disk....Remove the disk and reboot."  Is there something special that needs to be done to make the 12.10 iso functional?
[20:37] <knome> blizzow, shouldn't be anything special comparing to the other releases.
[22:42] <xubuntu269> i have a computer
[22:42] <knome> congratulations
[22:42] <xubuntu269> thank you
[22:43] <xubuntu269> my mom put a few games on there
[22:44] <knome> right...
[22:45] <Unit193> Left...
[22:45] <knome> middle
[23:10] <pcroque> \q