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mhall119cjohnston: I'll get track and room data from Marianna once she has it03:10
mhall119actually I can do tracks now, I know that03:10
mhall119same tracks as last time, plus "App Development"03:11
dholbachgood morning07:04
czajkowskimorning07:20
czajkowskihttp://front.moveon.org/this-is-how-you-beat-the-tea-party/  is rather cool10:21
dakerhi11:15
czajkowskidpm: yay making progress on that code :)11:47
dpmczajkowski, yeah, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to implement all they're asking me. I'm doing it on spare time and every time I do something they requested, they come up with something new. It is a bit frustrating, TBH11:48
czajkowski:/11:49
czajkowskinot easy I know11:49
czajkowskiwhich reminds me11:49
dpmand it also is highly dependent on who you ask11:49
czajkowskiI need to organise some lp workshops at UDS11:49
czajkowskidpm: well they do have a daily reviewer schedule as they are also working on other bits11:49
dpmI know, I know, I was working quite closely with the LP translations team for 2 years, and I know they do an awesome job. I was just venting my frustrations, sorry...11:50
czajkowskino I understand11:51
czajkowskiit is hard11:51
czajkowskibut they do also hold sacred the LoC11:51
czajkowskilearnt that early on11:51
dpmyep, but I would have also appreciated someone from the few people I already talked to to have mentioned it to me before having spent several hours on it :/11:52
czajkowski:/11:52
dpmanyway, let's talk UDS ;-)11:52
czajkowskiI guess they also just know it and didnt think11:52
dpmanyway, no worries, it's all good, just good to vent every now and then ;)11:53
czajkowskinods11:53
czajkowskiI totoally understand11:53
czajkowskiI have my channels for that too :)11:54
dpm:)11:54
czajkowskihah win! lifeless to the rescue!11:55
dpm\o/11:56
czajkowskisee we're really not that bad :)11:56
czajkowskiwe;re just awkward11:56
dpmawesome11:56
akgranerjcastro  - awww  :-)12:19
* dpm <- late lunch13:27
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jcastrohttp://twitter.com/castrojo/status/24661472412344729614:22
jcastrocan I get some RT folks?14:22
jcastro_https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/TbiXkWaLVtq14:29
jcastro_reshares on this please!14:30
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JoseeAntonioRjcastro: I'll RT it as soon as I get home, T is blocked here at school D:14:31
jcastrohttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/zvldk/remember_papercuts_someone_wants_to_revitalize_it/14:34
jcastroneed upboats too!14:34
cjohnstonmake sure to upboat it!14:36
JoseeAntonioRall social networks except for fb are blocked here :P14:36
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dakerhhh JoseeAntonioR14:42
dakerUse TOR :)14:42
JoseeAntonioRcan't14:43
dakerah i see, the school PC's, right ?14:44
JoseeAntonioRyeah14:46
dpmhi bkerensa, around?15:07
jcastrohey AlanBell15:12
jcastrohttp://blog.bigdinosaur.org/node-dot-js/15:12
jcastrocheck this out wrt. redis as a backing store for etherpad-lite15:12
jcastroDaviey, ^^ you might care about this too15:12
jcastroanyway, I mailed the guy and thought it might be an interesting relationship to add a redis option to the etherpad-lite charm15:14
JoseeAntonioRshould I put the information about public transit that is in Bella Center's webpage into the wiki?15:25
AlanBellhi jcastro16:09
AlanBellinteresting article16:13
jcastroindeed16:15
jcastrobkerensa, hey, so what's your opinion on vanillaforums?16:16
AlanBellI will probably do some more summit hacking this weekend to get pad-lite api in it16:16
jcastrohttp://vanillaforums.com/16:16
AlanBellthe redis thing is just a deployment option16:16
jcastroit looks quite slick16:16
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day16:18
dholbachhave a great WE everyone16:18
pleia2have a nice weekend dholbach :)16:19
dholbach:)16:20
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Davieyjcastro: good stuff17:31
bkerensajcastro: its open source so its better than vbulletin to some degree?18:07
bkerensajcastro: I am a fan of phpBB though.18:07
jcastromozilla seems to use it for their forum18:07
bkerensayes18:07
bkerensaand O'Reily18:07
jcastroI was just wondering if you had experience with it18:07
bkerensaI have not used it for any production but I have installed it before18:07
bkerensajcastro: you guys giving up on vbulletin? :)18:08
jcastroI dunno18:08
jcastroI personally wonder why we're still on it18:09
jcastroand then I ran into this looking at some charm stuff18:09
pleia2phpbb can't handle the size of ubuntuforums18:09
jcastroand I was wondering if you had seen it18:09
bkerensapleia2: I think it could... Gaia uses PHPBB and they definately dwarf Ubuntu Forums18:10
pleia2bkerensa: heh, well, I suppose if you had the hardware to handle it18:10
bkerensawell yeah18:11
pleia2but vbulletin can handle it with much lower requirements18:11
bkerensayeah18:11
bkerensaI have no idea what kind of hardware canonical has UF on18:11
bkerensaI imagine multiple web fronts and a dedicated mysql server?18:11
pleia2and honestly I've had terrible experiences with phpbb, particularly with plugins blowing up in really imaginative ways upon upgrades18:12
bkerensasounds like unity18:12
bkerensa:D18:12
pleia2so I think we'd have the same openid upgrade problems regardless18:12
bkerensayeah18:12
bkerensaimho if vanilla forums were an option18:12
bkerensaI would suggest Canonical let Vanilla do managed hosting18:12
bkerensaand pay them to do the integration18:13
bkerensasince they know their framework better than anyone18:13
AlanBellso going from non-free to saas :(18:20
AlanBellthen again, it is GPL v218:22
bkerensa:D18:25
bkerensaI mean its just right now Forums Upgrade progress is set at "Stalled"18:26
bkerensahttps://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=1673318:26
elfythat's more or less constant and has been regularly for a long long time18:26
pleia2the CC emailed everyone about it yesterday to see if we can get it nudged along (again)18:38
elfyI know - saw that :)18:39
elfythanks18:39
bkerensajcastro: Do you know what size web front ends OMG uses by chance? I am likely moving to AWS soon :)20:22
jcastroI want to say smalls20:23
jcastroimbrandon knows for sure20:23
jcastrobkerensa, a small for your needs should be more than enough20:29
bkerensajcastro: we dedicated mysql instance too right?20:31
bkerensawith*20:31
jcastropretty sure you can just plop mysql on there too, the latest charm is like cache-city so I bet it'll be totally fine20:34
jcastromarcoceppi: what do you think?20:34
bkerensajcastro: Unfortunately the provider does not use Juju20:35
bkerensain fact they use CentOS20:35
bkerensa;p20:35
bkerensashh!20:35
marcoceppijcastro bkerensa the wp charm does. Just also deploy memcached on that machine as well. That way if you /do/ scale out you can easily share the cache load20:36
bkerensakk20:36
bkerensaAnyone has experience with Cloudways?20:36
bkerensaI am moving from WPEngine sponsored to Cloudways Sponsored20:36
jcastrobkerensa, you can sort of just take the wp charm and "translate" it for your old, broken, OS.20:37
jcastro:p20:37
bkerensajcastro: I might have to talk to them about this whole CentOS thing :)20:37
marcoceppigoing to bunk off early and get a jump on the weekend o/20:38
jcastrocya!20:40
jcastrobkerensa, cloud-init bro, it's a cloud provider's dream, does all their work for them20:40
jcastrook not all of it20:40
jcastrobut it's jawesome.20:40
JoseeAntonioRjcastro: RTd and upvoted21:53
dakerpleia2: thanks for sharing your slides :) http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/22:34
pleia2sure :)22:34

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