[03:10] cjohnston: I'll get track and room data from Marianna once she has it [03:10] actually I can do tracks now, I know that [03:11] same tracks as last time, plus "App Development" [07:04] good morning [07:20] morning [10:21] http://front.moveon.org/this-is-how-you-beat-the-tea-party/ is rather cool [11:15] hi [11:47] dpm: yay making progress on that code :) [11:48] czajkowski, yeah, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to implement all they're asking me. I'm doing it on spare time and every time I do something they requested, they come up with something new. It is a bit frustrating, TBH [11:49] :/ [11:49] not easy I know [11:49] which reminds me [11:49] and it also is highly dependent on who you ask [11:49] I need to organise some lp workshops at UDS [11:49] dpm: well they do have a daily reviewer schedule as they are also working on other bits [11:50] I know, I know, I was working quite closely with the LP translations team for 2 years, and I know they do an awesome job. I was just venting my frustrations, sorry... [11:51] no I understand [11:51] it is hard [11:51] but they do also hold sacred the LoC [11:51] learnt that early on [11:52] yep, but I would have also appreciated someone from the few people I already talked to to have mentioned it to me before having spent several hours on it :/ [11:52] :/ [11:52] anyway, let's talk UDS ;-) [11:52] I guess they also just know it and didnt think [11:53] anyway, no worries, it's all good, just good to vent every now and then ;) [11:53] nods [11:53] I totoally understand [11:54] I have my channels for that too :) [11:54] :) [11:55] hah win! lifeless to the rescue! [11:56] \o/ [11:56] see we're really not that bad :) [11:56] we;re just awkward [11:56] awesome [12:19] jcastro - awww :-) [13:27] * dpm <- late lunch === jcastro__ is now known as jcastro [14:22] http://twitter.com/castrojo/status/246614724123447296 [14:22] can I get some RT folks? [14:29] https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/TbiXkWaLVtq [14:30] reshares on this please! === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [14:31] jcastro: I'll RT it as soon as I get home, T is blocked here at school D: [14:34] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/zvldk/remember_papercuts_someone_wants_to_revitalize_it/ [14:34] need upboats too! [14:36] make sure to upboat it! [14:36] all social networks except for fb are blocked here :P === james_w` is now known as james_w [14:42] hhh JoseeAntonioR [14:42] Use TOR :) [14:43] can't [14:44] ah i see, the school PC's, right ? [14:46] yeah [15:07] hi bkerensa, around? [15:12] hey AlanBell [15:12] http://blog.bigdinosaur.org/node-dot-js/ [15:12] check this out wrt. redis as a backing store for etherpad-lite [15:12] Daviey, ^^ you might care about this too [15:14] anyway, I mailed the guy and thought it might be an interesting relationship to add a redis option to the etherpad-lite charm [15:25] should I put the information about public transit that is in Bella Center's webpage into the wiki? [16:09] hi jcastro [16:13] interesting article [16:15] indeed [16:16] bkerensa, hey, so what's your opinion on vanillaforums? [16:16] I will probably do some more summit hacking this weekend to get pad-lite api in it [16:16] http://vanillaforums.com/ [16:16] the redis thing is just a deployment option [16:16] it looks quite slick [16:18] alright my friends - I call it a day [16:18] have a great WE everyone [16:19] have a nice weekend dholbach :) [16:20] :) === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [17:31] jcastro: good stuff [18:07] jcastro: its open source so its better than vbulletin to some degree? [18:07] jcastro: I am a fan of phpBB though. [18:07] mozilla seems to use it for their forum [18:07] yes [18:07] and O'Reily [18:07] I was just wondering if you had experience with it [18:07] I have not used it for any production but I have installed it before [18:08] jcastro: you guys giving up on vbulletin? :) [18:08] I dunno [18:09] I personally wonder why we're still on it [18:09] and then I ran into this looking at some charm stuff [18:09] phpbb can't handle the size of ubuntuforums [18:09] and I was wondering if you had seen it [18:10] pleia2: I think it could... Gaia uses PHPBB and they definately dwarf Ubuntu Forums [18:10] bkerensa: heh, well, I suppose if you had the hardware to handle it [18:11] well yeah [18:11] but vbulletin can handle it with much lower requirements [18:11] yeah [18:11] I have no idea what kind of hardware canonical has UF on [18:11] I imagine multiple web fronts and a dedicated mysql server? [18:12] and honestly I've had terrible experiences with phpbb, particularly with plugins blowing up in really imaginative ways upon upgrades [18:12] sounds like unity [18:12] :D [18:12] so I think we'd have the same openid upgrade problems regardless [18:12] yeah [18:12] imho if vanilla forums were an option [18:12] I would suggest Canonical let Vanilla do managed hosting [18:13] and pay them to do the integration [18:13] since they know their framework better than anyone [18:20] so going from non-free to saas :( [18:22] then again, it is GPL v2 [18:25] :D [18:26] I mean its just right now Forums Upgrade progress is set at "Stalled" [18:26] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=16733 [18:26] that's more or less constant and has been regularly for a long long time [18:38] the CC emailed everyone about it yesterday to see if we can get it nudged along (again) [18:39] I know - saw that :) [18:39] thanks [20:22] jcastro: Do you know what size web front ends OMG uses by chance? I am likely moving to AWS soon :) [20:23] I want to say smalls [20:23] imbrandon knows for sure [20:29] bkerensa, a small for your needs should be more than enough [20:31] jcastro: we dedicated mysql instance too right? [20:31] with* [20:34] pretty sure you can just plop mysql on there too, the latest charm is like cache-city so I bet it'll be totally fine [20:34] marcoceppi: what do you think? [20:35] jcastro: Unfortunately the provider does not use Juju [20:35] in fact they use CentOS [20:35] ;p [20:35] shh! [20:36] jcastro bkerensa the wp charm does. Just also deploy memcached on that machine as well. That way if you /do/ scale out you can easily share the cache load [20:36] kk [20:36] Anyone has experience with Cloudways? [20:36] I am moving from WPEngine sponsored to Cloudways Sponsored [20:37] bkerensa, you can sort of just take the wp charm and "translate" it for your old, broken, OS. [20:37] :p [20:37] jcastro: I might have to talk to them about this whole CentOS thing :) [20:38] going to bunk off early and get a jump on the weekend o/ [20:40] cya! [20:40] bkerensa, cloud-init bro, it's a cloud provider's dream, does all their work for them [20:40] ok not all of it [20:40] but it's jawesome. [21:53] jcastro: RTd and upvoted [22:34] pleia2: thanks for sharing your slides :) http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/ [22:34] sure :)