[03:10] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'll get track and room data from Marianna once she has it
[03:10] <mhall119> actually I can do tracks now, I know that
[03:11] <mhall119> same tracks as last time, plus "App Development"
[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[07:20] <czajkowski> morning
[10:21] <czajkowski> http://front.moveon.org/this-is-how-you-beat-the-tea-party/  is rather cool
[11:15] <daker> hi
[11:47] <czajkowski> dpm: yay making progress on that code :)
[11:48] <dpm> czajkowski, yeah, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to implement all they're asking me. I'm doing it on spare time and every time I do something they requested, they come up with something new. It is a bit frustrating, TBH
[11:49] <czajkowski> :/
[11:49] <czajkowski> not easy I know
[11:49] <czajkowski> which reminds me
[11:49] <dpm> and it also is highly dependent on who you ask
[11:49] <czajkowski> I need to organise some lp workshops at UDS
[11:49] <czajkowski> dpm: well they do have a daily reviewer schedule as they are also working on other bits
[11:50] <dpm> I know, I know, I was working quite closely with the LP translations team for 2 years, and I know they do an awesome job. I was just venting my frustrations, sorry...
[11:51] <czajkowski> no I understand
[11:51] <czajkowski> it is hard
[11:51] <czajkowski> but they do also hold sacred the LoC
[11:51] <czajkowski> learnt that early on
[11:52] <dpm> yep, but I would have also appreciated someone from the few people I already talked to to have mentioned it to me before having spent several hours on it :/
[11:52] <czajkowski> :/
[11:52] <dpm> anyway, let's talk UDS ;-)
[11:52] <czajkowski> I guess they also just know it and didnt think
[11:53] <dpm> anyway, no worries, it's all good, just good to vent every now and then ;)
[11:53] <czajkowski> nods
[11:53] <czajkowski> I totoally understand
[11:54] <czajkowski> I have my channels for that too :)
[11:54] <dpm> :)
[11:55] <czajkowski> hah win! lifeless to the rescue!
[11:56] <dpm> \o/
[11:56] <czajkowski> see we're really not that bad :)
[11:56] <czajkowski> we;re just awkward
[11:56] <dpm> awesome
[12:19] <akgraner> jcastro  - awww  :-)
[13:27]  * dpm <- late lunch
[14:22] <jcastro> http://twitter.com/castrojo/status/246614724123447296
[14:22] <jcastro> can I get some RT folks?
[14:29] <jcastro_> https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/TbiXkWaLVtq
[14:30] <jcastro_> reshares on this please!
[14:31] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I'll RT it as soon as I get home, T is blocked here at school D:
[14:34] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/zvldk/remember_papercuts_someone_wants_to_revitalize_it/
[14:34] <jcastro> need upboats too!
[14:36] <cjohnston> make sure to upboat it!
[14:36] <JoseeAntonioR> all social networks except for fb are blocked here :P
[14:42] <daker> hhh JoseeAntonioR
[14:42] <daker> Use TOR :)
[14:43] <JoseeAntonioR> can't
[14:44] <daker> ah i see, the school PC's, right ?
[14:46] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[15:07] <dpm> hi bkerensa, around?
[15:12] <jcastro> hey AlanBell
[15:12] <jcastro> http://blog.bigdinosaur.org/node-dot-js/
[15:12] <jcastro> check this out wrt. redis as a backing store for etherpad-lite
[15:12] <jcastro> Daviey, ^^ you might care about this too
[15:14] <jcastro> anyway, I mailed the guy and thought it might be an interesting relationship to add a redis option to the etherpad-lite charm
[15:25] <JoseeAntonioR> should I put the information about public transit that is in Bella Center's webpage into the wiki?
[16:09] <AlanBell> hi jcastro
[16:13] <AlanBell> interesting article
[16:15] <jcastro> indeed
[16:16] <jcastro> bkerensa, hey, so what's your opinion on vanillaforums?
[16:16] <AlanBell> I will probably do some more summit hacking this weekend to get pad-lite api in it
[16:16] <jcastro> http://vanillaforums.com/
[16:16] <AlanBell> the redis thing is just a deployment option
[16:16] <jcastro> it looks quite slick
[16:18] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:18] <dholbach> have a great WE everyone
[16:19] <pleia2> have a nice weekend dholbach :)
[16:20] <dholbach> :)
[17:31] <Daviey> jcastro: good stuff
[18:07] <bkerensa> jcastro: its open source so its better than vbulletin to some degree?
[18:07] <bkerensa> jcastro: I am a fan of phpBB though.
[18:07] <jcastro> mozilla seems to use it for their forum
[18:07] <bkerensa> yes
[18:07] <bkerensa> and O'Reily
[18:07] <jcastro> I was just wondering if you had experience with it
[18:07] <bkerensa> I have not used it for any production but I have installed it before
[18:08] <bkerensa> jcastro: you guys giving up on vbulletin? :)
[18:08] <jcastro> I dunno
[18:09] <jcastro> I personally wonder why we're still on it
[18:09] <jcastro> and then I ran into this looking at some charm stuff
[18:09] <pleia2> phpbb can't handle the size of ubuntuforums
[18:09] <jcastro> and I was wondering if you had seen it
[18:10] <bkerensa> pleia2: I think it could... Gaia uses PHPBB and they definately dwarf Ubuntu Forums
[18:10] <pleia2> bkerensa: heh, well, I suppose if you had the hardware to handle it
[18:11] <bkerensa> well yeah
[18:11] <pleia2> but vbulletin can handle it with much lower requirements
[18:11] <bkerensa> yeah
[18:11] <bkerensa> I have no idea what kind of hardware canonical has UF on
[18:11] <bkerensa> I imagine multiple web fronts and a dedicated mysql server?
[18:12] <pleia2> and honestly I've had terrible experiences with phpbb, particularly with plugins blowing up in really imaginative ways upon upgrades
[18:12] <bkerensa> sounds like unity
[18:12] <bkerensa> :D
[18:12] <pleia2> so I think we'd have the same openid upgrade problems regardless
[18:12] <bkerensa> yeah
[18:12] <bkerensa> imho if vanilla forums were an option
[18:12] <bkerensa> I would suggest Canonical let Vanilla do managed hosting
[18:13] <bkerensa> and pay them to do the integration
[18:13] <bkerensa> since they know their framework better than anyone
[18:20] <AlanBell> so going from non-free to saas :(
[18:22] <AlanBell> then again, it is GPL v2
[18:25] <bkerensa> :D
[18:26] <bkerensa> I mean its just right now Forums Upgrade progress is set at "Stalled"
[18:26] <bkerensa> https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=16733
[18:26] <elfy> that's more or less constant and has been regularly for a long long time
[18:38] <pleia2> the CC emailed everyone about it yesterday to see if we can get it nudged along (again)
[18:39] <elfy> I know - saw that :)
[18:39] <elfy> thanks
[20:22] <bkerensa> jcastro: Do you know what size web front ends OMG uses by chance? I am likely moving to AWS soon :)
[20:23] <jcastro> I want to say smalls
[20:23] <jcastro> imbrandon knows for sure
[20:29] <jcastro> bkerensa, a small for your needs should be more than enough
[20:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: we dedicated mysql instance too right?
[20:31] <bkerensa> with*
[20:34] <jcastro> pretty sure you can just plop mysql on there too, the latest charm is like cache-city so I bet it'll be totally fine
[20:34] <jcastro> marcoceppi: what do you think?
[20:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: Unfortunately the provider does not use Juju
[20:35] <bkerensa> in fact they use CentOS
[20:35] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:35] <bkerensa> shh!
[20:36] <marcoceppi> jcastro bkerensa the wp charm does. Just also deploy memcached on that machine as well. That way if you /do/ scale out you can easily share the cache load
[20:36] <bkerensa> kk
[20:36] <bkerensa> Anyone has experience with Cloudways?
[20:36] <bkerensa> I am moving from WPEngine sponsored to Cloudways Sponsored
[20:37] <jcastro> bkerensa, you can sort of just take the wp charm and "translate" it for your old, broken, OS.
[20:37] <jcastro> :p
[20:37] <bkerensa> jcastro: I might have to talk to them about this whole CentOS thing :)
[20:38] <marcoceppi> going to bunk off early and get a jump on the weekend o/
[20:40] <jcastro> cya!
[20:40] <jcastro> bkerensa, cloud-init bro, it's a cloud provider's dream, does all their work for them
[20:40] <jcastro> ok not all of it
[20:40] <jcastro> but it's jawesome.
[21:53] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: RTd and upvoted
[22:34] <daker> pleia2: thanks for sharing your slides :) http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/
[22:34] <pleia2> sure :)