[02:54] <dglass> Is anyone working on python-evolution? It seems broken in multiple ways in quantal. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-python-desktop/+bug/1041785) I have been using it for talking to evolution in another package (wakeup), and need to know whether I should create a detailed workaround for python-evolution support
[02:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1041785 in gnome-python-desktop "python-evolution evolution.ecal has NoneType" [Undecided,New]
[02:56] <RAOF> dglass: In my experience the evolution bindings tend to be bad; from memory, upstream is not particularly happy with supporting them, as they expose evolution internals.
[02:56] <RAOF> (ie: they're not even API stable)
[02:58] <dglass> RAOF: that is certainly what it seems like.... so the answer is no, nobody is working on them, and yes, I should create a workaround?
[02:58] <RAOF> Yes.
[02:58] <RAOF> As far as I'm aware.
[02:59] <dglass> Okay, well at least that is straightforward. Thanks for the info. It may be almost helpful to remove this package in this case, so as not to confuse people into using this package
[03:00] <RAOF> Yeah; I did the same with something that relied on the C# evolution bindings.
[03:01] <dglass> Okay, well thanks a lot for the info.
[03:34] <pitti> Good morning
[03:44] <ajmitch> morning pitti
[03:44] <RAOF> Hey pitti
[05:33] <didrocks> good morning
[05:43] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[05:44] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti, comment ça va?
[05:44] <pitti> ça va bien, merci! et toi?
[05:45] <pitti> Je suis quatre-vingt-dix-huit % bien :)
[05:45] <pitti> "vais"
[05:45]  * pitti is still amazed by French numbers
[05:46] <pitti> "let's just skip 17, 18, 19, 70, 80, 90, nobody needs those" :)
[05:46] <didrocks> pitti: c'est juste des mathématiques :)
[05:46] <didrocks> pitti: still coughing, but it seems it's stalling like that. So drinking tea + honey
[05:47] <pitti> good luck!
[05:48] <pitti> meh, google accounts are still bothering twice a day
[05:50] <didrocks> pitti: you did restart your session sign yesterday's signon update?
[05:50] <pitti> yes, several times
[05:51] <didrocks> pitti: I didn't get it yet since I restarted, (normally, I got it every day), maybe I'm more lucky? :)
[07:40] <Mirv> desrt / didrocks: patch v2 at https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/gconf/support-s-to-as-migrations/+merge/123744
[07:41] <tjaalton> I should probably unhiglight 'timo' :)
[07:41] <didrocks> tjaalton: heh, indeed :)
[07:42] <didrocks> Mirv: ok, let's wait for his feedback, thanks!
[07:43] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[07:52] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson!
[07:52] <didrocks> how are you?
[07:53] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks, i'm good thanks. how are you?
[07:55] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: still coughing, so tea + honey for the day I think :)
[09:07]  * ogra_ wonders why he isnt capable to find a dmrc spec in fdo 
[09:07] <ogra_> isnt that a freedesktop definition ?
[09:09] <didrocks> ogra_: I was thinking it would be, but I only found the definition on http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en
[09:10] <didrocks> and the lightdm one: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM/Design
[09:10] <didrocks> which more or less push it as a standard :)
[09:10] <ogra_> yeah, thats the one i hit when searching for it on fdo
[09:10] <ogra_> but that doesnt actually have a proper definition
[09:11] <ogra_> seems lxdm completely ignores dmrc ... which has funny effects if you swithc back and forth between DMs
[09:11] <ogra_> (i have a user for whom the alternative was switched to lightdm on a 12.04 upgrade and he has a hard time getting the default session right again)
[09:12] <ogra_> so he asked about an explanation for dmrc ... i cant really belive there is nothing desktop agnostic about it on fdo
[13:19] <Mirv> desrt: thanks! :)
[13:52]  * didrocks is happy to look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html now
[13:52] <didrocks> still some work to go, but we started by far :)
[14:34] <Mirv> didrocks: hi, ok so you think the remaining migration problem is a blocker. I didn't ask anyone yet, so if you or popey can ask desrt or tim or someone to try it out in US timezones today still, I wrote a description at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1204871/
[14:35] <Mirv> my brains are finished for this week now :)
[14:36] <popey> I'll hunt them down Mirv , thanks
[14:38] <didrocks> ok, let's see what would be popey's results
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, native theme rendering in firefox is a PITA
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> do you think anybody would notice if it stopped rendering native styled widgets?
[14:58] <Riddell> is ubuntu desktop staying with language-selector for 12.10 rather than integrating bits with gnome control centre?
[14:59] <mterry> tedg, is that remote-login-service thing ready?  I'd like to push it today
[14:59] <mterry> I can work on the test issue if you're busy today
[14:59] <tedg> mterry, In general yes, getting the fixes through the system.  Turns out what was breaking Jenkins and the PPAs were actually different.
[15:00] <tedg> mterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~remote-login-service-team/remote-login-service/trunk/+activereviews
[15:09] <mpt> chrisccoulson, I would :-)
[15:09] <chrisccoulson> mpt - it's making my life difficult ;)
[15:10] <ogra_> note he didnt say he would complain :)
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:32] <vuntz> jbicha: thanks for the panel fixes!
[15:46] <didrocks> vuntz: just when you wanted to deprecate the fallback session, how sneaky this is :)
[15:48] <jbicha> haha, it was minor tweaks, the fallback session still needs lots of love :)
[16:02] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, this is fun :/
[16:04] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: how fun? :)
[16:04] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, it's the "my head is about to explode" kind of fun
[16:04] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: urgh, you should take some rest then!
[16:04] <chrisccoulson> heh
[16:05] <chrisccoulson> i can't rest until i've finished what i'm working on though ;)
[16:05] <chrisccoulson> starting this at the end of the week probably wasn't the best plan :)
[16:05] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: even if we molest you to force taking a nap? :)
[16:05] <Ursinha> completely understand this ^^^^^
[16:05] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[16:56] <tedg> mterry, I pushed 0.7.0, merge request should update.
[16:57] <mterry> tedg, awesome
[16:57] <tedg> It has a couple of other fixes from tsdgeos as well.
[16:58] <tedg> Okay, I'm going to grab lunch.  ping me if there's issues.
[17:05] <Riddell> does ubuntu desktop have a colord config tool?
[18:25] <mterry> kenvandine, you mentioned having some MIRs almost ready?  Do you expect those to hit today or next week?
[18:26] <kenvandine> not today :/
[18:26] <kenvandine> monday... i hope!
[18:32] <mterry> charles, do you know when a new dbusmenu release might happen?
[18:33] <charles> mterry, I've got a batch of new releases for early next week, mon-tue timeframe
[18:33] <mterry> charles, awesome
[18:33] <charles> I'll make sure dbusmenu's on the list
[18:33] <mterry> thanks
[18:34] <charles> that's for your images fix, yes?
[18:34] <charles> np
[18:34] <mterry> charles, that was my proximate concern, yeah