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smartboyhwQuantal meeting coming right?14:58
skaetyup14:58
skaetjust waiting for top of the hour to start it.14:58
ogra_start 114:59
ogra_!14:59
ogra_:)14:59
skaet:)14:59
* ogra_ is sitting on the autobahn, half way to berlin14:59
mdeslaur\o15:00
skaet#startmeeting15:00
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smartboyhw\o15:00
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skaetWeekly Release Agenda (and minute location):15:00
skaethttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-09-1415:00
skaet.15:00
skaetUpcoming dates:15:00
skaet12.1015:00
skaet    2012/09/20: 12.10 Beta 2 Freeze,  DocString Freeze at 2100 UTC15:00
arosales\o hello15:00
skaet    2012/09/27: 12.10 Beta 215:00
skaet    2012/10/04: Kernel Freeze and Desktop Infrastructure Freeze at 2100 UTC15:00
skaet    2012/10/09: Translation Deadline at 1030 UTC and Final Freeze at 2100 UTC15:00
skaet.15:00
skaetBugs:15:00
skaetDevelopment teams are trying to fix: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:00
skaetTo be considered for fixing: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:00
brendand\o15:00
skaet.15:00
skaetWork Items:15:00
skaet2012/09/14 -  2996 (was 3025  - 2012/08/31):   Thank you for the recent push to clean up the feature status.  :)15:00
skaetWe are still behind the trendline for some of the projects.  Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks. If something is clearly not going to make it this cycle, please mark it POSTPONED.15:00
skaet.15:00
skaetWeekly Status Received:15:00
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001926.html - QA - gema15:00
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001927.html - desktop - didrocks15:00
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001928.html - security - mdeslaur15:00
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001929.html - HWCert - brendand15:00
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001930.html - kernel - ogasawara15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001931.html - ubuntu one - joshuahoover15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001932.html - community - balloons15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001933.html - server - arosales15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001934.html - linaro - fabo15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001935.html - Unity - popey15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001936.html - foundations - ogra_15:01
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001938.html - kubuntu - RIddell15:01
skaet?? - edubuntu - stgraber15:01
skaet?? - xubuntu - knome15:01
skaet?? - Ubuntu Studio - ScottL15:01
skaet?? - Lubuntu - gilir15:01
skaet#topic Comments and Questions15:01
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Riddellhi15:01
skaethello arosales, brendand, didrocks, ogra_, smartboyhw  - who else is around?15:01
gemao/15:01
skaethiya Riddell, gema15:02
stgraberskaet: nothing exciting happened for Edubuntu since beta-1.15:02
smartboyhwscott-work is missing completely...15:02
skaetstgraber, ack.15:03
skaetanyone have any burning questions to raise before I start into my set?15:03
skaet(if so,   'o/' to let us know)15:04
skaetTo make sure we’re all as efficient as possible in this critical bug fixing/polishing up time,  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:04
skaetshould be kept as close to 0 as possible.   Teams with more than 5 in their queue right now are:15:04
skaetdesktop: 1615:04
skaetdx (product strategy): 815:04
skaetfoundations: 1115:04
skaetdidrocks, popey, ogra_ - can you work with your teams to get these sorted by monday?15:04
ogra_sure :)15:04
didrocksskaet: sure, I already taken down the number, but will continue15:04
* jbicha waves15:04
popeyyup15:05
skaetthanks ogra_ ,  didrocks,  popey.   :)   appreciate the efforts so far.15:05
skaetgema,  I was working through: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qa/qa-open-bugs-quantal.html,  and finding some bugs without rls-q-incoming tag or being targetted to a series.   Could you do a pass through the bugs to make sure that the tag is present, on all those that are NOT already targetted to a series, so they get into the development team’s triaging flow?15:06
gemaskaet: sure, I can do that on Monday european morning15:06
skaetthanks gema.  :)15:06
skaetdidrocks, not spotting bug: 927168, bug: 1047306 or bug: 966744 on your working on list, and they’re indicated as critical in  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html,   can you look into them?15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 927168 in Compiz "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in memmove() from drisw_update_tex_buffer() from dri_set_tex_buffer2() from drisw_bind_tex_image() from __glXBindTexImageEXT() from TfpTexture::enable() from enableFragmentOperationsAndDrawGeometry()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92716815:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966744 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Quantal) "[i965] Resume from suspend leaves me with black screen or a screen of the desktop before it suspended. Compiz hung in intel_update_renderbuffers() from intel_prepare_render() from brw_draw_prims()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96674415:07
didrocksskaet: yeah, it's a bug between PS and us, people are already working on it, but not trivial15:07
skaetpopey,  ^  can you help from your side too on those?15:08
popeysure, but I think our "best minds" are on it15:08
didrocksskaet: bug #1047306 isn't relevant right now, as I reverted mesa because of it last week (so not impacting us, just in case if we reupload mesa without doing anything)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1047306 in mesa (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Quantal] [Intel Atom] Mesa 2012/09/07 updates broke it all" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104730615:08
didrocksskaet: not sure how it should be marked then?15:09
skaetdidrocks,  if its not relevant,  probably marking it INVALID for the moment,  but keeping note of it in case it shows up again later?15:09
didrocksskaet: yeah, or I will change the bug title for now, tjaalton is working on it to reupload the new mesa without the regression15:10
jibelskaet, it's not invalid because it is a real bug that have been reverted and being worked on15:10
skaetpopey,  just wasn't seeing them listed in the working on lists,  so wanted to make sure they actually were being "worked on"  :)15:10
popeysure, will make sure they are15:11
skaetjibel,   what do you recommend then?15:11
* didrocks adds "[Mesa reverted, not impacting quantal right now]" in front of the bug title15:11
jibelin progress seems right to me15:11
* skaet likes that. Thanks didrocks.15:12
didrocksyw :)15:12
skaetok jibel,  looks like we've got a way to denote it for now then.    probably need to ponder conventions on how to denote bugs of things not in the current archive at some point.15:12
skaetbug in upstream, but not in the ubuntu portion.15:13
skaet..15:13
skaetdidrocks,  any concerns about the timing of the landing of ubuntu one’s FFe (bug: 1042343)?15:14
skaetbug: 104234315:14
* skaet wonders what happened to ubottu15:14
didrocksskaet: depends if it lands next week or not. I'll get ken checking on the status again15:15
popeyLaunchpad bug 1042343 in Ubuntu One Client "[FFE] Ubuntu One integration with Q sync indicator" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104234315:15
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1042343 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042343). The error has been logged15:15
popeypfft15:15
didrocksthanks popeybuttu :)15:15
popey /nick popeybot15:16
ogra_heh15:16
skaetthanks didrocks,  popeybot  :)15:16
skaet..15:16
skaetmdelaur,  re: FF16 landing on Final Freeze date,  if it can be reviewed and included before 2100 that would be best.  Is this possible?15:16
skaethmm... not seeing him for now,  moving on to next question15:19
skaetpopey, are the unity development teams keeping the Features separated from the bug fixes until after the FFE’s are approved?15:19
skaetmdeslaur, ^  sorry,  typo in your nick.   see question re: FF1615:20
mdeslaurone sec15:21
mdeslaurskaet: ah, I'll see with micahg if that's possible15:21
skaetthanks mdeslaur.15:22
mdeslaurif not, no biggie, we can just do a day 0 security update15:22
skaetok.15:22
skaet..15:22
* skaet wondering if popey is still around?15:23
skaetmoving on for now then.15:23
skaetrosales, spotted a FTBFS that’s been lurking for a bit,  updated its milestone https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/genshi/+bug/935516 - will this get fixed before beta 2?15:23
popeysorry, someone just arrived at my house15:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Quantal) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged]15:23
* skaet having serious trouble with nick's today.15:23
skaetarosales, ^15:24
arosalesskaet: I'll take a look.15:24
skaetthanks arosales.15:24
skaet:)15:24
arosalesshould be able to get resolved before beta2 :-)15:24
skaet..15:25
arosales..15:25
skaetpopey,  do you know if we'll have the ability to revert FFe's if they cause problems or not?  (ie. mixing in features with bug fixes, could make it *interesting* :P )15:26
popeyhmm15:26
popeynot something I'd considered, I'll have to admit, and we'll have to figure a plan for that if it happens15:26
popeythe plan being, not to mix in the first place I imagine ;)15:27
popey..15:27
didrocksyeah, but that's not really the case unfortunately :/15:27
popeyok15:27
didrocksskaet: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1kiVPg0U7VJpHt21y-Qm9VtnLxsTmKHfBmA2B16yLGzc/edit# if you want to have the trunk status of FF violation15:27
didrocks(and most of fixes are melt with features)15:27
didrocksPS do now have a separate unity and nux trunks15:27
didrocksbut that's only from yesterday, so the melting is already quite large in trunk "quantal"15:28
didrocksand that doesn't cover all the rest of the stack15:28
didrocks(lenses in particular and libunity for now)15:28
didrocks..15:28
skaetdidrocks,  thanks for that summary,  not sure its going to make me sleep much better at night though.15:28
skaetpopey,  who should we meet with to see if we can get some risk mitigation going>15:29
skaet?15:29
popeyolli/pat i think15:29
skaetpopey,  ok,  you want to set something up, or me to?15:30
popeyI can, after the meeting, I'll grab you15:31
skaetthanks :)15:31
* skaet looks around for any one else having questions on the other teams status'15:32
skaetballoons,  for the new test cases,  can I assume that the development teams have reviewed and signed off on the new ones added?15:32
smartboyhwskaet: Isn't balloons not coming to the meeting?15:33
smartboyhwThat's what he said in the weekly status report15:33
skaetthanks smartboyhw,  missed that.15:33
smartboyhwNP:)15:34
skaetScottK, Riddell - can you provide a bit more background on taglib FFE - bug #?15:34
Riddellamarok requested it15:35
Riddellsome bug fixes and new formats supported15:35
Riddellneeds testing15:35
Riddellbug 105046315:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1050463 in taglib (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFe update to 1.8" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105046315:36
Riddellso if you use any out of `apt-cache rdepends libtag1c2a` then please test it15:36
skaetwhen do you think it will be ready to land?   (enough testing to be sure?)15:36
Riddellit's ready, it's in my ~jr PPA15:37
Riddelljust needs testing to get the FFe approved15:37
Riddellit works find for me in amarok15:37
Riddellxnox was testing the russian version but I've not heard back15:37
Riddellthere's two builds of taglib which is pretty inelegant15:37
xnoxwell.... i have them installed, but didn't test yet =)15:38
marek_hi all, im newbie ;)15:38
marek_and sorry for my bad enlish15:38
skaetthanks for the background,  Riddell15:38
skaet..15:39
marek_i ve got lenovo z580, i want to configure my touchpad, i use this script: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Configuring_the_touchpad_with_xinput15:39
marek_but now right touchpad button works like left15:39
marek_do You know how i can repair it? ;)15:40
jbichao/15:40
jbichaor I could just discuss on #ubuntu-release if this meeting's over15:41
skaetmarek_,   best place for those sort of questions is in #ubuntu,   could you please ask there?15:41
skaetgo ahead jbicha,   I've gotten most of my questions asked.15:41
marek_ok thanks15:41
skaet(well almost ;) )15:41
jbichaI've seen a bunch of UIFE's in the past couple of days, but with docs freeze very soon, there's not much time to get those done15:42
ogra_marek_, wrong channel, there is a meeting in progress here, try #ubuntu15:42
ogra_(oh, skaet was faste)15:42
jbichalet me know if there's UIFEs that haven't been looked at yet15:42
ogra_r15:42
jbichaare the approved Unity UIFE's in the unity-staging PPA? because I can use that for screenshots15:43
didrocksjbicha: I know there are some PS side, unfortunately the design is not finished yet and still tweaking (they are on a sprint)15:43
skaetjbicha,  ok,  I'm building up a list as I encounter them.   Will share it with you, and you can see if I've missed some you're aware of too.15:43
didrocksjbicha: and not everything is yet merged, but I would let popey answering more15:43
jbichadidrocks: they should do their sprint before UIFe if it involves UI tweaks ;)15:44
didrocksjbicha: I more than agree…15:44
skaet+1 from me as well!15:44
didrocksjbicha: most of the changes are in the preview space, so you can mostly do the rest safely I think15:45
didrocksjbicha: the other tweaks are shadow which doesn't really worth if it changes and the doc screenshot is not up to date15:45
didrocks(this is from what I know)15:45
skaet..?15:46
popeyjbicha, if you need assistance getting screenshots from latest features, let me know if I can help..15:46
jbichaok, we probably won't even discuss the previews feature this cycle15:46
popey..15:46
didrocksskaet: sorry, not used to .. ;) yeah ..15:46
skaetthanks popey, jbicha, didrocks.  :)15:47
jbichapopey: ok, I wrote a script last cycle to semi-automate the screenshots so updating them is a bit easier than it used to be15:47
jbichathanks15:47
gemao/ (different topic)15:48
jbicha..15:48
skaetpopey, ogra_, didrocks, arosales - could I ask you to take a careful review through gema's QA status after meeting and decide what to do with the obsolete configs that seem to be lurking?15:49
skaetgema, ^ was that it?   or something different15:49
ogra_not right after meeting, but yeah, tonight i can15:49
gemaskaet: different15:49
skaetthanks ogra_15:49
didrockswill have a look as well (not after meeting, but for monday)15:49
skaet..15:50
arosalesskaet: will take a look and discuss with the team.15:50
skaetok gema,  go ahead.15:50
gemaskaet: I just wanted to let everyone know that from next week onwards, plars will be attending this meeting15:51
gemahe is taking over old jibel's responsibilities15:51
plarswell I'm here today too... so this week onward I suppose :)15:51
skaetthanks gema.   welcome plars.  :)15:51
plarsthanks!15:51
gemayep, I may be sitting on the background but will keep quiet from now on :D15:51
gema..15:52
skaet:)15:52
ogra_plars, ! good to have you back !15:52
ogra_:)15:52
* skaet looks if anyone else has comments/questions before EOM?15:52
didrockso/15:53
didrocksjust a small warning: next week, GNOME 3.5.92 release (RC)15:53
didrocksshould be a minor 3.5.91 -> 3.5.92 update and be on time for beta2 freeze15:54
didrocks..15:54
skaetthanks didrocks.15:54
skaetok,  feeling like EOM time...15:54
skaet#endmeeting15:54
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stgraberthanks!15:55
ogra_thanks15:55
mdeslaurthanks skaet!15:55
popeythanks15:55
arosalesthanks skaet for chair'ing15:55
didrocksthanks15:55
skaetThanks popey, arosales, didrocks, gema, plars, jbicha, jibel, ogra_, Riddell, mdeslaur, brendand - have a good weekend!15:55
gemayou too, thanks for chairing :D15:56
didrocksthanks skaet :)15:56
skaetthanks stgraber (belated ;) )15:56
highvoltagethanks everyone15:56
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