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| smartboyhw | Quantal meeting coming right? | 14:58 |
| skaet | yup | 14:58 |
| skaet | just waiting for top of the hour to start it. | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | start 1 | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | ! | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | :) | 14:59 |
| skaet | :) | 14:59 |
| * ogra_ is sitting on the autobahn, half way to berlin | 14:59 | |
| mdeslaur | \o | 15:00 |
| skaet | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Fri Sep 14 15:00:05 2012 UTC. The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:00 |
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| smartboyhw | \o | 15:00 |
| didrocks | \o | 15:00 |
| skaet | Weekly Release Agenda (and minute location): | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-09-14 | 15:00 |
| skaet | . | 15:00 |
| skaet | Upcoming dates: | 15:00 |
| skaet | 12.10 | 15:00 |
| skaet | 2012/09/20: 12.10 Beta 2 Freeze, DocString Freeze at 2100 UTC | 15:00 |
| arosales | \o hello | 15:00 |
| skaet | 2012/09/27: 12.10 Beta 2 | 15:00 |
| skaet | 2012/10/04: Kernel Freeze and Desktop Infrastructure Freeze at 2100 UTC | 15:00 |
| skaet | 2012/10/09: Translation Deadline at 1030 UTC and Final Freeze at 2100 UTC | 15:00 |
| skaet | . | 15:00 |
| skaet | Bugs: | 15:00 |
| skaet | Development teams are trying to fix: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 15:00 |
| skaet | To be considered for fixing: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 15:00 |
| brendand | \o | 15:00 |
| skaet | . | 15:00 |
| skaet | Work Items: | 15:00 |
| skaet | 2012/09/14 - 2996 (was 3025 - 2012/08/31): Thank you for the recent push to clean up the feature status. :) | 15:00 |
| skaet | We are still behind the trendline for some of the projects. Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks. If something is clearly not going to make it this cycle, please mark it POSTPONED. | 15:00 |
| skaet | . | 15:00 |
| skaet | Weekly Status Received: | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001926.html - QA - gema | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001927.html - desktop - didrocks | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001928.html - security - mdeslaur | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001929.html - HWCert - brendand | 15:00 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001930.html - kernel - ogasawara | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001931.html - ubuntu one - joshuahoover | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001932.html - community - balloons | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001933.html - server - arosales | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001934.html - linaro - fabo | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001935.html - Unity - popey | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001936.html - foundations - ogra_ | 15:01 |
| skaet | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001938.html - kubuntu - RIddell | 15:01 |
| skaet | ?? - edubuntu - stgraber | 15:01 |
| skaet | ?? - xubuntu - knome | 15:01 |
| skaet | ?? - Ubuntu Studio - ScottL | 15:01 |
| skaet | ?? - Lubuntu - gilir | 15:01 |
| skaet | #topic Comments and Questions | 15:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Comments and Questions | ||
| Riddell | hi | 15:01 |
| skaet | hello arosales, brendand, didrocks, ogra_, smartboyhw - who else is around? | 15:01 |
| gema | o/ | 15:01 |
| skaet | hiya Riddell, gema | 15:02 |
| stgraber | skaet: nothing exciting happened for Edubuntu since beta-1. | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | scott-work is missing completely... | 15:02 |
| skaet | stgraber, ack. | 15:03 |
| skaet | anyone have any burning questions to raise before I start into my set? | 15:03 |
| skaet | (if so, 'o/' to let us know) | 15:04 |
| skaet | To make sure we’re all as efficient as possible in this critical bug fixing/polishing up time, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 15:04 |
| skaet | should be kept as close to 0 as possible. Teams with more than 5 in their queue right now are: | 15:04 |
| skaet | desktop: 16 | 15:04 |
| skaet | dx (product strategy): 8 | 15:04 |
| skaet | foundations: 11 | 15:04 |
| skaet | didrocks, popey, ogra_ - can you work with your teams to get these sorted by monday? | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | sure :) | 15:04 |
| didrocks | skaet: sure, I already taken down the number, but will continue | 15:04 |
| * jbicha waves | 15:04 | |
| popey | yup | 15:05 |
| skaet | thanks ogra_ , didrocks, popey. :) appreciate the efforts so far. | 15:05 |
| skaet | gema, I was working through: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qa/qa-open-bugs-quantal.html, and finding some bugs without rls-q-incoming tag or being targetted to a series. Could you do a pass through the bugs to make sure that the tag is present, on all those that are NOT already targetted to a series, so they get into the development team’s triaging flow? | 15:06 |
| gema | skaet: sure, I can do that on Monday european morning | 15:06 |
| skaet | thanks gema. :) | 15:06 |
| skaet | didrocks, not spotting bug: 927168, bug: 1047306 or bug: 966744 on your working on list, and they’re indicated as critical in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html, can you look into them? | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 927168 in Compiz "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in memmove() from drisw_update_tex_buffer() from dri_set_tex_buffer2() from drisw_bind_tex_image() from __glXBindTexImageEXT() from TfpTexture::enable() from enableFragmentOperationsAndDrawGeometry()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927168 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 966744 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Quantal) "[i965] Resume from suspend leaves me with black screen or a screen of the desktop before it suspended. Compiz hung in intel_update_renderbuffers() from intel_prepare_render() from brw_draw_prims()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966744 | 15:07 |
| didrocks | skaet: yeah, it's a bug between PS and us, people are already working on it, but not trivial | 15:07 |
| skaet | popey, ^ can you help from your side too on those? | 15:08 |
| popey | sure, but I think our "best minds" are on it | 15:08 |
| didrocks | skaet: bug #1047306 isn't relevant right now, as I reverted mesa because of it last week (so not impacting us, just in case if we reupload mesa without doing anything) | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1047306 in mesa (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Quantal] [Intel Atom] Mesa 2012/09/07 updates broke it all" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047306 | 15:08 |
| didrocks | skaet: not sure how it should be marked then? | 15:09 |
| skaet | didrocks, if its not relevant, probably marking it INVALID for the moment, but keeping note of it in case it shows up again later? | 15:09 |
| didrocks | skaet: yeah, or I will change the bug title for now, tjaalton is working on it to reupload the new mesa without the regression | 15:10 |
| jibel | skaet, it's not invalid because it is a real bug that have been reverted and being worked on | 15:10 |
| skaet | popey, just wasn't seeing them listed in the working on lists, so wanted to make sure they actually were being "worked on" :) | 15:10 |
| popey | sure, will make sure they are | 15:11 |
| skaet | jibel, what do you recommend then? | 15:11 |
| * didrocks adds "[Mesa reverted, not impacting quantal right now]" in front of the bug title | 15:11 | |
| jibel | in progress seems right to me | 15:11 |
| * skaet likes that. Thanks didrocks. | 15:12 | |
| didrocks | yw :) | 15:12 |
| skaet | ok jibel, looks like we've got a way to denote it for now then. probably need to ponder conventions on how to denote bugs of things not in the current archive at some point. | 15:12 |
| skaet | bug in upstream, but not in the ubuntu portion. | 15:13 |
| skaet | .. | 15:13 |
| skaet | didrocks, any concerns about the timing of the landing of ubuntu one’s FFe (bug: 1042343)? | 15:14 |
| skaet | bug: 1042343 | 15:14 |
| * skaet wonders what happened to ubottu | 15:14 | |
| didrocks | skaet: depends if it lands next week or not. I'll get ken checking on the status again | 15:15 |
| popey | Launchpad bug 1042343 in Ubuntu One Client "[FFE] Ubuntu One integration with Q sync indicator" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042343 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1042343 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042343). The error has been logged | 15:15 |
| popey | pfft | 15:15 |
| didrocks | thanks popeybuttu :) | 15:15 |
| popey | /nick popeybot | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:16 |
| skaet | thanks didrocks, popeybot :) | 15:16 |
| skaet | .. | 15:16 |
| skaet | mdelaur, re: FF16 landing on Final Freeze date, if it can be reviewed and included before 2100 that would be best. Is this possible? | 15:16 |
| skaet | hmm... not seeing him for now, moving on to next question | 15:19 |
| skaet | popey, are the unity development teams keeping the Features separated from the bug fixes until after the FFE’s are approved? | 15:19 |
| skaet | mdeslaur, ^ sorry, typo in your nick. see question re: FF16 | 15:20 |
| mdeslaur | one sec | 15:21 |
| mdeslaur | skaet: ah, I'll see with micahg if that's possible | 15:21 |
| skaet | thanks mdeslaur. | 15:22 |
| mdeslaur | if not, no biggie, we can just do a day 0 security update | 15:22 |
| skaet | ok. | 15:22 |
| skaet | .. | 15:22 |
| * skaet wondering if popey is still around? | 15:23 | |
| skaet | moving on for now then. | 15:23 |
| skaet | rosales, spotted a FTBFS that’s been lurking for a bit, updated its milestone https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/genshi/+bug/935516 - will this get fixed before beta 2? | 15:23 |
| popey | sorry, someone just arrived at my house | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Quantal) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged] | 15:23 |
| * skaet having serious trouble with nick's today. | 15:23 | |
| skaet | arosales, ^ | 15:24 |
| arosales | skaet: I'll take a look. | 15:24 |
| skaet | thanks arosales. | 15:24 |
| skaet | :) | 15:24 |
| arosales | should be able to get resolved before beta2 :-) | 15:24 |
| skaet | .. | 15:25 |
| arosales | .. | 15:25 |
| skaet | popey, do you know if we'll have the ability to revert FFe's if they cause problems or not? (ie. mixing in features with bug fixes, could make it *interesting* :P ) | 15:26 |
| popey | hmm | 15:26 |
| popey | not something I'd considered, I'll have to admit, and we'll have to figure a plan for that if it happens | 15:26 |
| popey | the plan being, not to mix in the first place I imagine ;) | 15:27 |
| popey | .. | 15:27 |
| didrocks | yeah, but that's not really the case unfortunately :/ | 15:27 |
| popey | ok | 15:27 |
| didrocks | skaet: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1kiVPg0U7VJpHt21y-Qm9VtnLxsTmKHfBmA2B16yLGzc/edit# if you want to have the trunk status of FF violation | 15:27 |
| didrocks | (and most of fixes are melt with features) | 15:27 |
| didrocks | PS do now have a separate unity and nux trunks | 15:27 |
| didrocks | but that's only from yesterday, so the melting is already quite large in trunk "quantal" | 15:28 |
| didrocks | and that doesn't cover all the rest of the stack | 15:28 |
| didrocks | (lenses in particular and libunity for now) | 15:28 |
| didrocks | .. | 15:28 |
| skaet | didrocks, thanks for that summary, not sure its going to make me sleep much better at night though. | 15:28 |
| skaet | popey, who should we meet with to see if we can get some risk mitigation going> | 15:29 |
| skaet | ? | 15:29 |
| popey | olli/pat i think | 15:29 |
| skaet | popey, ok, you want to set something up, or me to? | 15:30 |
| popey | I can, after the meeting, I'll grab you | 15:31 |
| skaet | thanks :) | 15:31 |
| * skaet looks around for any one else having questions on the other teams status' | 15:32 | |
| skaet | balloons, for the new test cases, can I assume that the development teams have reviewed and signed off on the new ones added? | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | skaet: Isn't balloons not coming to the meeting? | 15:33 |
| smartboyhw | That's what he said in the weekly status report | 15:33 |
| skaet | thanks smartboyhw, missed that. | 15:33 |
| smartboyhw | NP:) | 15:34 |
| skaet | ScottK, Riddell - can you provide a bit more background on taglib FFE - bug #? | 15:34 |
| Riddell | amarok requested it | 15:35 |
| Riddell | some bug fixes and new formats supported | 15:35 |
| Riddell | needs testing | 15:35 |
| Riddell | bug 1050463 | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1050463 in taglib (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFe update to 1.8" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1050463 | 15:36 |
| Riddell | so if you use any out of `apt-cache rdepends libtag1c2a` then please test it | 15:36 |
| skaet | when do you think it will be ready to land? (enough testing to be sure?) | 15:36 |
| Riddell | it's ready, it's in my ~jr PPA | 15:37 |
| Riddell | just needs testing to get the FFe approved | 15:37 |
| Riddell | it works find for me in amarok | 15:37 |
| Riddell | xnox was testing the russian version but I've not heard back | 15:37 |
| Riddell | there's two builds of taglib which is pretty inelegant | 15:37 |
| xnox | well.... i have them installed, but didn't test yet =) | 15:38 |
| marek_ | hi all, im newbie ;) | 15:38 |
| marek_ | and sorry for my bad enlish | 15:38 |
| skaet | thanks for the background, Riddell | 15:38 |
| skaet | .. | 15:39 |
| marek_ | i ve got lenovo z580, i want to configure my touchpad, i use this script: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Configuring_the_touchpad_with_xinput | 15:39 |
| marek_ | but now right touchpad button works like left | 15:39 |
| marek_ | do You know how i can repair it? ;) | 15:40 |
| jbicha | o/ | 15:40 |
| jbicha | or I could just discuss on #ubuntu-release if this meeting's over | 15:41 |
| skaet | marek_, best place for those sort of questions is in #ubuntu, could you please ask there? | 15:41 |
| skaet | go ahead jbicha, I've gotten most of my questions asked. | 15:41 |
| marek_ | ok thanks | 15:41 |
| skaet | (well almost ;) ) | 15:41 |
| jbicha | I've seen a bunch of UIFE's in the past couple of days, but with docs freeze very soon, there's not much time to get those done | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | marek_, wrong channel, there is a meeting in progress here, try #ubuntu | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | (oh, skaet was faste) | 15:42 |
| jbicha | let me know if there's UIFEs that haven't been looked at yet | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | r | 15:42 |
| jbicha | are the approved Unity UIFE's in the unity-staging PPA? because I can use that for screenshots | 15:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I know there are some PS side, unfortunately the design is not finished yet and still tweaking (they are on a sprint) | 15:43 |
| skaet | jbicha, ok, I'm building up a list as I encounter them. Will share it with you, and you can see if I've missed some you're aware of too. | 15:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: and not everything is yet merged, but I would let popey answering more | 15:43 |
| jbicha | didrocks: they should do their sprint before UIFe if it involves UI tweaks ;) | 15:44 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I more than agree… | 15:44 |
| skaet | +1 from me as well! | 15:44 |
| didrocks | jbicha: most of the changes are in the preview space, so you can mostly do the rest safely I think | 15:45 |
| didrocks | jbicha: the other tweaks are shadow which doesn't really worth if it changes and the doc screenshot is not up to date | 15:45 |
| didrocks | (this is from what I know) | 15:45 |
| skaet | ..? | 15:46 |
| popey | jbicha, if you need assistance getting screenshots from latest features, let me know if I can help.. | 15:46 |
| jbicha | ok, we probably won't even discuss the previews feature this cycle | 15:46 |
| popey | .. | 15:46 |
| didrocks | skaet: sorry, not used to .. ;) yeah .. | 15:46 |
| skaet | thanks popey, jbicha, didrocks. :) | 15:47 |
| jbicha | popey: ok, I wrote a script last cycle to semi-automate the screenshots so updating them is a bit easier than it used to be | 15:47 |
| jbicha | thanks | 15:47 |
| gema | o/ (different topic) | 15:48 |
| jbicha | .. | 15:48 |
| skaet | popey, ogra_, didrocks, arosales - could I ask you to take a careful review through gema's QA status after meeting and decide what to do with the obsolete configs that seem to be lurking? | 15:49 |
| skaet | gema, ^ was that it? or something different | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | not right after meeting, but yeah, tonight i can | 15:49 |
| gema | skaet: different | 15:49 |
| skaet | thanks ogra_ | 15:49 |
| didrocks | will have a look as well (not after meeting, but for monday) | 15:49 |
| skaet | .. | 15:50 |
| arosales | skaet: will take a look and discuss with the team. | 15:50 |
| skaet | ok gema, go ahead. | 15:50 |
| gema | skaet: I just wanted to let everyone know that from next week onwards, plars will be attending this meeting | 15:51 |
| gema | he is taking over old jibel's responsibilities | 15:51 |
| plars | well I'm here today too... so this week onward I suppose :) | 15:51 |
| skaet | thanks gema. welcome plars. :) | 15:51 |
| plars | thanks! | 15:51 |
| gema | yep, I may be sitting on the background but will keep quiet from now on :D | 15:51 |
| gema | .. | 15:52 |
| skaet | :) | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | plars, ! good to have you back ! | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:52 |
| * skaet looks if anyone else has comments/questions before EOM? | 15:52 | |
| didrocks | o/ | 15:53 |
| didrocks | just a small warning: next week, GNOME 3.5.92 release (RC) | 15:53 |
| didrocks | should be a minor 3.5.91 -> 3.5.92 update and be on time for beta2 freeze | 15:54 |
| didrocks | .. | 15:54 |
| skaet | thanks didrocks. | 15:54 |
| skaet | ok, feeling like EOM time... | 15:54 |
| skaet | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Sep 14 15:54:55 2012 UTC. | 15:54 |
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| stgraber | thanks! | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | thanks | 15:55 |
| mdeslaur | thanks skaet! | 15:55 |
| popey | thanks | 15:55 |
| arosales | thanks skaet for chair'ing | 15:55 |
| didrocks | thanks | 15:55 |
| skaet | Thanks popey, arosales, didrocks, gema, plars, jbicha, jibel, ogra_, Riddell, mdeslaur, brendand - have a good weekend! | 15:55 |
| gema | you too, thanks for chairing :D | 15:56 |
| didrocks | thanks skaet :) | 15:56 |
| skaet | thanks stgraber (belated ;) ) | 15:56 |
| highvoltage | thanks everyone | 15:56 |
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