[00:00] <Kentos> anyone knoww how this might be done?
[00:16] <ChmEarl> Kentos, did you configure the 2nd NIC in */interfaces?
[00:29] <Kentos> Earl- yes i did, but im not sure what the proper settings are
[00:29] <Kentos> ive tried many things, even gone through some dhcp set ups to autconfigure the ip for the machine im trying to connect to it. however i dont seem to be making progress
[00:31] <Kentos> the machine has a remote access controller, maybe i need to configure this?
[01:03] <savid> Hi, I've adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to add a sub-interface to eth0.  When I run "sudo restart networking", I get "restart: unknown instance:".  When I run "sudo start networking", I get "networking stop/waiting".  Any ideas how I can find out what's going on?
[01:25] <ae01> Hi,
[01:25] <ae01> I'm need some help about ubuntu server.
[01:25] <ae01> Could you help me please.
[01:25] <patdk-lap> I would, but I have no idea what you need cause you forgot to include that info
[01:25]  * patdk-lap hands ae01 a lolipop
[01:26] <ae01> thank
[01:26] <ae01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057140
[01:26] <ae01> that my problems
[01:26] <ae01> I'm need to modify ubuntu server for OpenERP
[01:27] <patdk-lap> dunno anything about erp or python
[01:28] <ae01> I'm need to modiyf like a shell script.
[01:28] <ae01> I'm will modify preseed again.
[01:28] <ae01> I'm ready for install a pre-package.
[01:32] <ae01> Could someone help me pls?
[01:36] <ae01> I will leave.
[02:09] <nov503> Hi, is there any way to automatically sync time with a ntp server when node commission?
[03:04] <ruben23> hi guys how to check the version of my kernel headers on my ubuntu server.?
[03:04] <ruben23> how to display it..?
[03:05] <Kobayashi> http://www.ubuntuka.com/how-to-find-out-ubuntu-version/
[03:06] <Kobayashi> uname -a
[04:36] <Kentos> anyone able to help me with some networking issues?
[04:42] <linocisco> hi all
[04:42] <linocisco> good morning
[04:45] <mvp> morning
[04:46] <linocisco> mvp,MVP= microsoft most valuable professional ?
[04:47] <mvp> not exactly. im working as barista ;)
[04:51] <linocisco> mvp, so what do you do with ubuntu server at your coffee bar?
[04:51] <Kentos> is there a way to set my second NIC to act aas a gaeway to the internet connection on my firsst nic?
[05:09] <ChmEarl> Kentos, is the box in datacenter?
[05:18] <ChmEarl> ko
[05:31] <linocisco> i think most of here are from USA. It is sleep time
[07:20] <spidernik84> Hello, I need some suggestions regarding the virt-install script when installing a vm partitioned with LVM on top of a kvm host as well partitioned with lvm. There seems to be some conflict going on, because the ubuntu installer fails complaining that the lvm is already in use, which is not true. Anyone with the same scenario?
[08:13] <balboah> Anyone happens to know how you can set rabbitmq-server not to only listen on ipv6?
[08:34] <sebrock> what should I expect when doing a network upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS? A world of hurt?
[08:34] <sebrock> and why the .04 all the time? :)
[08:34] <utnubu> weet iemand hoe je je internet settings op de server weer reset zoals bij een verse installatie?
[08:35] <lordievader> utnubu: It is English here though.
[08:35] <utnubu> does anyone knows howto reset the network settings on ubuntu server? im can't connect to the internet anymore, after adding a second network card
[08:35] <lordievader> sebrock: Because it was released the 4th month.
[08:35] <sebrock> ah :)
[08:52] <ae01> I have some question about ubuntu server
[08:52] <ae01> Could you plsใ
[08:53] <Kentos> gogo ahaed and ask,  nno sure if i can help bu someone might be able o
[08:54] <ae01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057140
[08:54] <ae01> that my problems
[08:54] <ae01> I will customize ubuntu CD
[08:57] <Kentos> no familiar with script writting, doing what your trying to do i beyond me at leat, someone else might be able to help, its late though
[08:59] <lordievader> Kentos: That depends on where you are, for me it is still morning.
[08:59] <tsimpson> ae01: 1) don't chmod +x a .deb, it's not required. 2) #ubuntu-installer is better for the d-i stuff
[08:59] <ae01> I'm living in Thailand.
[09:00] <ae01> help me for develope my country.
[09:00] <ae01> In Thailand is 4:00 pm.
[09:00] <lordievader> ae01: I'd say follow tsimpson's advice.
[09:03] <ae01> d-i preseed/late_command string ubuntu-installer openerp; in-target chsh -s /bin/zsh
[09:03] <ae01> right or not?
[09:11] <ae01> How to making automatics installation?
[09:17] <ae01> next time will ask a question.
[09:17] <ae01> bye.
[09:20] <spidernik84> sebrock: I'm trying that upgrade procedure
[09:21] <sebrock> spidernik84: tell me how it went
[09:21] <spidernik84> it worked quite well but in 2 cases out of 3 the machine could not boot autonomously
[09:21] <sebrock> I remember doing this way bay, and it was a headache
[09:21] <spidernik84> I had to press shift and instruct grub to pick the kernel
[09:21] <sebrock> elaborate please
[09:22] <spidernik84> after you reboot, the machine randomly halt before booting, apparently when running grub
[09:22] <spidernik84> if, instead, I intercept the boot by pressing shift
[09:22] <spidernik84> I can see the grub menu
[09:22] <spidernik84> pressing then enter
[09:22] <spidernik84> the machine boots
[09:22] <spidernik84> yet, sometimes it fails even by doing this. Could be a race condition or some hardware incompatibility
[09:23] <sebrock> mmm
[09:23] <spidernik84> this behavior happened two times after an upgrade
[09:23] <spidernik84> one of the upgrades did not show this issue
[09:23] <spidernik84> same machine
[09:23] <sebrock> but grub instantiates before any kernel loads... so this has to do with your boot stuff alone
[09:23] <spidernik84> exactly
[09:24] <sebrock> yeah, I will probably hold of to the next LTS and do a complete reinstall
[09:24] <spidernik84> yeah well, a clean install is always safer but not always feasible
[09:24] <spidernik84> I'm about to upgrade 6 kvm hosts
[09:24] <spidernik84> with around 20 vms on each
[09:24] <spidernik84> not very happy at the idea of having a non booting machine
[09:25] <spidernik84> 6x20... an easy calculation
[09:25] <spidernik84> :P
[09:34] <sebrock> hmmm
[09:34] <pramodns> Hello All, I am trying to package apache 2.4 .. but i need to get it to use the same directory structure as the apache 2.2 ubuntu installation does
[09:34] <pramodns> is there any place with a apache 2.4 package already? or is there a simple way to get it packaged that way?
[09:39] <xnox> pramodns: debian experimental has apache 2.4 use that, as that is the future
[09:39] <xnox> pramodns: and they changed the structure slightly. beware php is not compatible with apache 2.4
[09:39] <pramodns> yes, i read about it..
[09:40] <pramodns> I was hoping a recompile would fix it..
[09:40] <pramodns> ill check the debian experimental , thanks xnox
[09:42] <xnox> pramodns: no, 'recompile' will not fix it. mod_php needs porting & writing code. if you need php forget about apache2.4
[09:42] <xnox> or use something like external fcgi
[09:42] <xnox> but then you are better of with uwsgi and/or nagios
[09:42] <xnox> nginx
[09:42]  * xnox giggles at nagios
[09:42] <pramodns> ok..
[09:43] <pramodns> :) thanks
[10:22] <RoyK> xnox: heh - nagios hasn't evolved much since the last seven years or so
[10:23] <RoyK> !icinga
[10:23] <xnox> RoyK: well icinga, kensai, shensai or whatever that japanese "multi-stuff" thing.....
[10:23] <xnox> !nagios
[10:23] <xnox> meh
[10:24] <RoyK> xnox: I know, I've been using nagios/icinga/etc for 10+ years ;)
[10:44] <feisar> hi, using kvm and vmbuilder on precise for the first time, is there any reason not to use amd64?
[10:45] <feisar> (when building a new vm)
[10:45] <Kentos> amd64 as the virtual proceor?
[10:45] <feisar> yeah
[10:46] <feisar> the vm is going to be a webserver
[10:46] <Kentos> depend on your needs and what physical hardware you have
[10:46] <feisar> I can't see it needing more than 3gb or ram any time soon
[10:47] <feisar> just wondered if there is any reason _not_ to use amd64
[10:47] <Kentos> i can't think of a great reaon not to, unless your hardware on the host is a 32bit proc, im not sure 64bit vcpu will be any more or less demanding on your proc though, I have heard webservers arent entirely demanding on proc but i'd ay if you want 64bit go for it
[10:47] <feisar> thanks
[10:48] <Kentos> just make sure to DL the 32bit libraries if you run 32 bit proceses
[10:49] <feisar> right ok
[10:49] <Kentos> i've run into some problems with that on a desktop version before, server might come with the library though
[10:49] <alexlist> just installing my first maas instance. awesome job, server team! I've done manual cobbler instances for RH/Fedora in the past, and this service just rocks ...
[10:50] <alexlist> however, I'm running my maas on a public IP, you might want to secure maas before q is released ...
[10:50] <alexlist> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/975462
[10:50] <Kentos> what is maa used for?
[10:50] <Kentos> maas*?
[10:50] <alexlist> maas is machine as a service
[10:51] <alexlist> it runs an os provisioning service, you can pxe boot physical machines or VMs from it and they get the os installed that you configure in maas ;)
[10:51] <Kentos> ahh, yeah ive heard it referenced but wasnt sure what hte application was
[10:51] <alexlist> internally, it's using cobbler (I'm using 12.04 atm)
[10:51] <Kentos> ahhh awesome
[10:52] <alexlist> basically dhcp, dns, pxe, plus a very nice management interface
[10:52] <Kentos> i was thinking about setting up some VMs, but i don't have a use for more 'servers' yet as far as webserving goes
[10:53] <alexlist> You might want to consider LXC for that, but I haven't tried yet how well that works with Ubuntu Cloud (i.e. maas and juju)
[10:53] <Kentos> but maas might be a nice thing to consider when i have multiple VMs i need to set up
[10:54] <alexlist> the problem is that when you have multiple VMs, you have to manage them all. configurations, software updates (security is paramount on publicly exposed servers), ....
[10:54] <Kentos> yeah, not really understanding of the whole 'cloud' thing, im just getting started in working with a server here, but I dont know what i would need a cloud for
[10:54] <alexlist> In particular if you run dynamic stuff inside Apache modules ...
[10:54] <alexlist> well... it's just  a nice marketing term for doing things right :P
[10:54] <Kentos> lol
[10:55] <alexlist> imagine you want to have failover in case your hardware dies
[10:55] <alexlist> or reshuffle the load between physical servers
[10:55] <Kentos> what sort of security should i look into for some webserver?
[10:55] <alexlist> with a proper virtualization environment, you can migrate VM instances from one physical host to another with almost no downtime
[10:56] <alexlist> but honestly, unless you're really big or have an established customer base, I doubt you have the economies of scale to compete with commercial cloud providers like Amazon EC2, Rackspace, ...
[10:56] <Kentos> basically a multiple machine load balancing and failover to keep it running
[10:56] <alexlist> it's more than that
[10:56] <alexlist> from the user perspective, all data is stored somewhere on the net
[10:57] <Kentos> ahh well i will look into the clouds more when the sun rises
[10:57] <alexlist> I see it more from an admin perspective... the ideal sysadmin is like an insurance policy: it's best if you don't need him, and it's best if you don't notice his work ...
[10:57] <alexlist> sun was bought by oracle ;)
[10:57] <Kentos> lol
[10:58] <alexlist> re webserver security - I guess there are many many articles on that, way better than what I can tell you ;)
[10:58] <alexlist> The most important thing is to isolate different environments and keep software up to date I think ...
[10:58] <Kentos> right on, ill take a look around, im justt trying to get some basic stuff going currently and figure my way around the linux server platform
[10:58] <alexlist> What have you been using so far?
[11:00] <Kentos> just basic stuff, im using ubuntu 12.04, on a dell poweredge 2800, set up a bit of a test on the server for websites, and ttried messing around to get my main pc's internet to go through the dual NIC on the server and into the router(didnt figure it out )
[11:01] <Kentos> I'm thinking about trying some other thimg but right now the cpu cant handle all too much
[11:01] <Kentos> might upgrade the proc and add a second one
[11:50] <alexlist> @Kentos you should definitely look into application sandboxing using LXC. I don't know if your PE2800 has proper virtualization support to run real VMs efficiently. What's the CPU model in that box?
[12:36] <feisar> hi, following this walk though: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html (jeos and vmbuilder) I'm wondering if it's possible to build a vm and instruct it to use LVs instead of creating disk files?)
[12:50] <SpamapS> feisar: probably. Honestly though, you're probably better off just booting the cloud image than trying to build your own jeos vm
[12:50] <SpamapS> feisar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images#Ubuntu_Cloud_Guest_images_on_Local_Hypervisor_Natty_onward
[12:51] <thierry_> hi everyone
[12:51] <thierry_> i'm trying to make wifi works on my ubuntu-server on my pandaboard, and i'm following instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[12:52] <thierry_> when i restarted networking service, i got some error with resolv.conf file
[12:52] <thierry_> and wlan0 is not up, rebooting pc does not change anything eithert
[12:52] <SpamapS> feisar: if you follow those steps, you can just create an LV, and dd if=blah.raw of=path/to/lv
[12:52] <feisar> SpamapS: thanks but this terminology is fairly new to me, I don't quite follow you. I have a metal box with 12.04 installed and I want to run a few 12.04 VMs - I was using 'vmbuilder' to do this
[12:53] <SpamapS> feisar: vmbuilder doesn't really run vms. It just builds the disk images.
[12:53] <SpamapS> feisar: kvm or xen or vmware actually run the vm
[12:53] <thierry_> it says resolv.conf is not a symlink n, not doing anythign
[12:54] <feisar> sure, I'm using KVM and using vmbuilder to put my vm together - does that make sense?
[12:55] <thierry_> ifup wlan0 returns, ioctl[SIOCSWENCODEEXT] : Invalid argument$
[12:55] <feisar> ah ok this 'dd if=blah.raw of=path/to/lv' implies that switching to LVs is easy - even if the VM has been up and running, is that correct?
[12:56] <SpamapS> thierry_: perhaps this is a simpler way: http://www.finnie.org/2012/04/19/wifi-on-an-ubuntu-server/
[12:57] <SpamapS> feisar: yes. The cloud images are pre-made by the ubuntu project, so you don't need to build your own...
[12:57] <feisar> ah I see
[12:57] <SpamapS> feisar: but if you already went through the trouble of building one, you can just put the disk image on an LV with dd
[12:58] <feisar> thanks, I haven't built it yet but written a script with all the options in
[12:59] <feisar> SpamapS: is it possible for me to get a lot wrong in building my own image?
[13:00] <feisar> i mean, it seems fairly straight forward so far
[13:01] <thierry_> SpamapS:  i'm trying it now , thanks
[13:04] <SpamapS> feisar: wrong is not the right term. The cloud images are uniform, and building vms is busy work... so building your own is, IMO, quite a waste of your time.
[13:05] <thierry_> SpamapS:  thanks , Great :!)
[13:28] <hallyn> jdstrand: will you have a chance to test bug 1040033 with the qemu 1.2.0 version in ppa?
[13:28] <jdstrand> hallyn: hey-- I will, and I'm sorry I haven't yet, I've been sprinting this week
[13:29] <hallyn> jdstrand: ok, just trying to make sure I don't forget about it.  thanks.  (well, and if we're going to ask for FFE to get 1.2 into quantal it should be soon :)
[13:29] <jdstrand> hallyn: I can kick off the tests when I get back home
[13:29] <hallyn> jdstrand: thanks
[13:30] <jdstrand> hallyn: understood. I won't forget-- it is on my high priority todo, which unlike my ever-expanding todo, actually means something
[13:30] <hallyn> jdstrand: thanks :)
[13:30] <jdstrand> :)
[13:33] <med_> what's supposed to start openstack-dashboard (horizon)? manage.py runserver doesn't seem to be in an upstart
[13:38] <feisar> SpamapS: thanks
[13:52] <hallyn> zul: can you check whether https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2012-September/msg00843.html applies to q?
[13:55] <zul> hallyn:  looks like it
[13:57] <hallyn> zul: ok, did you have any other changes to push?
[13:57] <zul> hallyn:  nope
[13:57] <hallyn> zul: have you had any openstack bugs seemingly caused by libvirt in q?  You'r ehappy with it overall?
[13:58] <zul> hallyn:  yeah im ok with
[13:58] <hallyn> zul: groovy
[13:58] <hallyn> tyhicks: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2012-September/msg00843.html  libvirt cve for q.  is it ok if we just push the fix, or is the security team already handling it?
[14:05] <aandy> is there any apt/aptitude way of getting clang 3+ on ubuntu 10.10? (apt-get install clang gives 2.8, even after apt-get update of sources)
[14:18] <feisar> Hi, I'm using vm-builder and it seems to have stopped on 'Calling hook: bootstrap' can anyone give me an idea of the time it takes to build? I mean hours or minutes?
[14:28] <Firefishy> Newbie here, how best to get this resolved? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amd64-microcode/+bug/1036618 Request to backport amd64-microcode to precise
[14:29] <Firefishy> Without the updated microcode some recent AMD's run overly hot + likely other issues
[14:30] <micahg> Firefishy: this is a new source, right?
[14:30] <SpamapS> Firefishy: new hardware support in precise is handled by backporting the current stable release's kernel usually.
[14:30] <SpamapS> Firefishy: if this is something else, it can be done as an SRU https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[14:30] <Firefishy> SpamapS: It is a package, just like intel-microcode, support is already in kernel.
[14:31] <Firefishy> micahg: Yes new package, Quantal package builds fine on precise.
[14:32] <micahg> Firefishy: in the future, you might want to consider using the requestbackport tool from ubuntu-dev-tools as it will fill in the information about required testing and sucj
[14:32] <micahg> *such
[14:32] <Firefishy> micahg: noted.
[14:33] <SpamapS> micahg: I don't know that this is a requestbackport thing. Hardware enablement is SRU worthy
[14:33] <micahg> SpamapS: sure, but it's a new source package
[14:34] <micahg> as in we had nothing like this in precise before
[14:34] <micahg> and backports are enabled by default, so anyone who needs it should see it
[14:35] <Firefishy> The package is in debian squeeze-backports.
[14:35] <micahg> Firefishy: I've updated the bug with the testing needed (you already said it builds, did you install/run the package as well)?
[14:35]  * micahg also wonders why this is related to server
[14:51] <Firefishy> micahg: Opterons ;-)
[14:57] <micahg> Firefishy: can you please comment in the bug as to the testing you've done with the package built on precise?
[14:58] <Firefishy> Yip will do
[15:11] <tyhicks> hallyn: Feel free to push that into q
[15:15] <phunyguy> Hello, I have tried Ubuntu server 12.10 beta1 in a virtualbox VM, and after running updates, the network card no longer shows up.  I tried on a physical box thinking maybe it was just kernel issues with virtualbox virtualized hardware, and sure enough, after updates, I can't get in.  I am assuming it is the same issue.  Is this a known issue?
[15:15] <phunyguy> My wife on the other end says that a login screen is there, so no kernel panic or anything preventing boot, it's just not responding on the network
[15:21] <yeats> phunyguy: you've tried bringing up the card manually? (e.g., 'ifup eth0')?
[15:22] <phunyguy> i'm trying to duplicate the issue again in virtualbox.  I have since reinstalled and not ran updates yet.
[15:45] <phunyguy> OK I have duplicated the issue.  There doesn't seem to be any network devices listed in /dev
[15:46] <phunyguy> yeats, ^^^
[15:46] <ogra_> in /dev ?
[15:46] <phunyguy> although one shows up in lspci
[15:46] <phunyguy> yes ogra_
[15:46] <ogra_> you mean /proc/net/dev ?
[15:47] <ogra_> there have never been network devices in /dev
[15:47] <ogra_> ;)
[15:48] <phunyguy> hmm yeah there is the issue I think.  I changed p2p1 in /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 and it came up
[15:49] <phunyguy> must be a bug?
[15:49] <phunyguy> and thanks ogra_  I didn't know that.
[15:53] <phunyguy> or maybe it was a fixed bug? Sounds more like it.
[15:54] <phunyguy> but it really should change the entries in /etc/network/interfaces when the update happens....
[16:10] <phunyguy> yep, it was the same issue on the physical box, wrong device name in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:12] <phunyguy> just lost half a day waiting for my wife to wake up so I could walk her through changing it, lol!  =D
[16:31] <smoser> security/apparmor person...
[16:32] <smoser> after maas lays down a file into /etc/apparmor.d/dhcpd.d/maas does it's packaging have to explicitly call 'apparmor update' ?
[16:32] <smoser> or is there some magic triggers
[16:34] <sbeattie> smoser: no, something will need to reload policy, preferably just for dhcp.
[16:34] <sbeattie> smoser: that said, I haven't looked at what dh_apparmor provides, whether there's magic in there to do the right thing.
[16:35] <smoser> sbeattie, thanks.
[16:36] <sbeattie> jdstrand: you know more about dh_apparmor, any tips for smoser?
[16:38] <phunyguy> Oh man I love upstart.  Where has it been all my life?
[16:44] <smoser> sbeattie, so you think i should just always call on install ?
[16:50] <sbeattie> smoser: yes, I guess so. I was looking to see if there was an existing apparmor hook in the dhcpd upstrart job
[16:50] <smoser> right
[16:50] <smoser> and i shoudl call on remove also i think
[16:50] <smoser> right?
[16:56] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205157/
[16:56] <smoser> sbeattie, does that look reasonable ?
[16:57] <AaronMickDee> Any reason why NFS server speeds would drop?
[16:58] <sbeattie> smoser: yeah, that looks good
[16:59] <sbeattie> (based on visual inspection, nothing more :) )
[16:59] <smoser> AaronMickDee, i'm sure there are lots of reasons.
[16:59] <smoser> :)
[17:01] <AaronMickDee> I meant, any specific reasons or bugs that are eye glaringingly noticeable. :)
[17:19] <hallyn> stgraber: for bug 942862, it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to trap failure in the attempt to update the container, and, if that fails, flush and re-download.
[17:22] <hallyn> hm, actually, we install python-software-properties before we apt-get update.
[17:24] <hallyn> i'm gonna try and address that one
[17:25] <stgraber> hallyn: resolvconf on lucid was unsupported, I fixed that in quantal and precise with a change to lxc-ubuntu
[17:27] <hallyn> stgraber: ?  is that related to the out-of-date-lucid-cache bug in lxc-create?
[17:27] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, I noticed you mentioned the part about debootstrap re-trying the install of resolvconf multiple times
[17:27] <hallyn> no i wasn't really worried about that
[17:28] <hallyn> but sometimes lxc-create fails, when lxc-create -- -F succeeds
[17:28] <hallyn> I'm just going to, if that happens, output a msg suggesting trying -F
[17:28] <hallyn> I was going to automatically do that, but that gets too hairy i think and is more likely to break something else :)
[17:30] <stgraber> yeah, wiping the cache automatically might surprise some users ;) printing a msg seems better
[17:51] <savid> Hi, I've adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to add a sub-interface to eth0.  When I run "sudo restart networking", I get "restart: unknown instance:".  When I run "sudo start networking", I get "networking stop/waiting".  Any ideas how I can find out what's going on?
[18:02] <savid> When I run "ifup eth0:2" I get the error "RTNETLINK answers: File exists".  Any ideas?
[18:23] <nov503> hi, does when I install a node in MAAS, i have to sync the time with root first…does anyone know how to automatically do that?
[18:47] <hallyn> stgraber: do you mind checking ubuntu:lxc (last two revisions)?  Kind of tough to device a good test for the upgrade failures (i'm only trying to protect against dist-upgrade failing;  if they've corrupted their own cache that's a different problem)
[18:48] <stgraber> hallyn: will look in a sec
[18:59] <nov503> solved, thanks!
[19:26] <stgraber> hallyn: change in ubuntu:lxc looks reasonable
[19:31] <hallyn> stgraber: thanks,  will run one more test and push
[19:32] <hallyn> yay!  my utah lxc testcase works.  the mysterious failures?  timeouts!
[19:33] <stgraber> hmm, so lxc was somehow slower under utah? :)
[19:34] <hallyn> no, it gives like a 5 minute timeout by default for the whole suite
[19:34] <hallyn> so utah timed it out and said the tests failed
[19:35] <stgraber> ah
[19:36] <hallyn> jamespage: lp:~serge-hallyn/utah/utah-lxc is a branch on top of your server-tests branch which adds lxc tests.  I"ll do a mp in a bit to get yoru review
[19:36] <stgraber> yeah, all the tests including the various lxc-creates can take way longer than 5 minutes ;)
[19:36] <hallyn> yup :)
[19:37] <stgraber> hallyn: can you also push your ubuntu:lxc changes to your git branch? I'll then push them to the staging branch (I'm mostly interested in the clear fix for the hooks)
[19:39] <hallyn> stgraber: yup
[19:43] <hallyn> stgraber: what the heck?  how come, once in awhile, bzr seems to drop my dep-5 comments at top of a patch??
[19:44] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, never seen that yet (though I tend to put only very minimal comments, so maybe I never noticed ;))
[19:44] <hallyn> the first time if igured i must have forgotten.  but now i'm sure i had put the comments in
[19:46] <Lavvy> Hello, i am runing into problems here, i am testing the ubuntu cloud live, it is quite simple and automatic. I used the username/password (ubuntu/ubuntu123) from the get started guide, but i could not get into openstack. Please is there any  username/password for openstack? Or what am i missing?
[19:46] <hallyn> stgraber: pushed to github.com/hallyn/lxc #staging
[19:47] <stgraber> thanks
[19:47] <hallyn> pushing 0.8.0~rc1-4ubuntu35 in a few mins (barring test failures)  have a good weekend
[19:49] <Lavvy> Hallyn you have an idea?
[19:49] <hallyn> Lavvy: 'ubuntu/ubuntu' maybe?
[19:50] <hallyn> Lavvy: smoser probably knows
[19:50] <stgraber> hallyn: thanks, you too. (I cherry-picked your two commits and pushed to staging)
[19:50] <smoser> what know do i?
[19:51] <Lavvy> Smoser the openstack username password in ubuntu cloud live
[19:52] <hallyn> smoser: ^ Lavvy is trying 'ubuntu cloud live'
[19:52] <Lavvy> Smoser help am stuck
[19:52] <smoser> Lavvy, ubuntu:ubuntu maybe ?
[19:52] <smoser> med_, ?
[19:53] <smoser> Lavvy, you're saying on an instance?
[19:53] <hallyn> Lavvy: what is this getting started guide you're talking about?
[19:53] <smoser> inside it?
[19:53] <med_> smoser, ?
[19:53] <med_> maybe ubuntu:ubuntu
[19:54] <Lavvy> Ge started said ubuntu; ubuntu123
[19:54] <Lavvy> But not working
[19:54] <med_> Lavvy, you mean for the openstack dashboard?
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> Lavvy:  what "getting started" guide?
[19:54]  * med_ hasn't run cloud-live since November
[19:54] <Lavvy> Yes med , openstack
[19:55] <med_> Lavvy, the dashboard?
[19:55] <med_> I think it's admin...
[19:55] <med_> maybe admin:admin
[19:55] <Lavvy> Thelordoftime, it comes with the ixo
[19:56] <Lavvy> Not working though
[19:56] <hallyn> jamespage: actually, that seemed to want to push to lp:utah, so i pushed straight to your tree.  hope you don't mind!
[19:57] <med_> Lavvy, I'm taking a look. Sorry for the delay.
[19:58] <Lavvy> Ok med
[20:06] <Lavvy> Hi med
[20:08] <med_> Lavvy, confirmed it is ubuntu/ubuntu123
[20:09] <Lavvy> But i have used it med, am i missing anytin
[20:09] <med_> Lavvy, it will take me a bit longer to actually run this version. I've just examined the code so far (and mostly had to shake off a lot of cobwebs.)
[20:10] <med_> I'll boot it and get back to you in 10-15 minutes.
[20:10] <Lavvy> Ok, med
[20:22] <med_> Lavvy, hmmm, seems to work fine. I launched the included browser and it automatically brings up 3 tabs.
[20:22] <med_> The 3rd one goes to the localhost dashboard instance and ubuntu/ubuntu123 works fine.
[20:22] <med_> please restate your problem as I'm not having issues and we must have confused something.
[20:23] <Lavvy> Wow, may i got something wrong in my case
[20:23] <Lavvy> Ok
[20:23] <Lavvy> Hello, i am runing into problems here, i am testing the ubuntu cloud live, it is quite simple and automatic. I used the username/password (ubuntu/ubuntu123) from the get started guide, but i could not get into openstack. Please is there any  username/password for openstack? Or what am i missing?
[20:24] <med_> that is the username for openstack.
[20:24] <med_> when you say "for openstack" tell me PRECISELY what you are trying to do.
[20:24] <med_> ie, is that a login, a web page, etc that you're trying to access.
[20:24] <Lavvy> I want to login into openstack dashboard
[20:24] <med_> Lavvy, ^
[20:25] <med_> and what URL are you using?
[20:25] <med_> and did you run the start-openstack.sh?
[20:25] <Lavvy> Yea the third tab
[20:25] <med_> well, ubuntu/ubuntu123 does work there.
[20:25] <med_> four steps:
[20:25] <med_> 1) boot the image
[20:25] <Lavvy> Localhost
[20:25] <med_> 2) run the nova-setup.sh
[20:26] <med_> 3) run the start-openstack.sh
[20:26] <med_> 4) go to the 3rd tab and login as ubuntu/ubuntu123
[20:26] <Lavvy> Ok let me reboot now again
[20:27] <med_> Good plan.
[20:27] <med_> the only issues I'm aware of is if there is some networking issues.
[20:27] <med_> be aware, it may not work (COMPLETELY) if you only have a wlan
[20:27] <Lavvy> Like?
[20:27] <med_> (but I think all those steps will work)
[20:28] <med_> I think wlan fails when you are inside an instance and try and do networking
[20:28] <Lavvy> Ok am rebooting
[20:28] <med_> due to some intentional limitations on network spoofing ie promiscuousity on wlan interfaces.
[20:35] <jamespage> hallyn, thats fine
[20:36] <Lavvy> Med, when i ran nova-setup.sh. It said cant create database 'nova' : database exists
[20:37] <med_> Lavvy, I think you've done a persistent boot then
[20:37] <med_> Lavvy, are you booting from a USB thumb drive? a CD or a hard disk?
[20:37] <Lavvy> Please how do i resolve that?
[20:37] <med_> and are you booting cloud-live on bare metal or inside a virtual machine?
[20:38] <Lavvy> From harddisk
[20:38] <med_> that's not really the main idea with cloud-live.  I suspect you've made some persistent changes then.
[20:38] <Lavvy> With underlying window7
[20:38] <med_> Lavvy, I'm going to private message with you for a bit if that's okay
[20:39] <Lavvy> Ok thanks
[21:16] <hallyn> zul: tyhicks: note i think precise's libvirt also needs that CVE fix that i pushed to q.
[21:16] <hallyn> if someone wants to SRU that...  i probablywon't get to it tonight
[21:17] <tyhicks> hallyn: It will need to go through -security
[21:18] <hallyn> tyhicks: then i leave it in your capable hands :)
[21:19] <tyhicks> hallyn: We have it marked as a "low"
[21:19] <tyhicks> hallyn: Does it require an authenticated remote attacker or can anyone DoS libvirtd remotely?
[21:19] <hallyn> tyhicks: makes sense.  thanks!
[21:19] <hallyn> tyhicks: hm, well i thin kanyone can.  more to the point, at the moment i don't think there are any gaps in the list.
[21:20] <hallyn> so IIUC (which i may not) it should not yet apply to us.  it's more of a 'if someone backprots and does it wrongly' thing
[21:20] <hallyn> but, i could be wrong about that
[21:21] <hallyn> tyhicks: see first paragraph in https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2012-September/msg00843.html.  so technically i don't believe it's exploitable right now.
[21:21] <tyhicks> hallyn: Ok, thanks. libvirt will be getting updated by us since CVE-2012-3445 is a medium. We'll apply the fix for CVE-2012-4423 at that time.
[21:21] <hallyn> tyhicks: great
[21:22] <tyhicks> I read it the same as you
[21:22] <hallyn> cool.  then - have a good weekend
[21:22] <tyhicks> you too!
[21:22] <pythonirc101> does anyone know of benchmarks between opteron 6272 vs barcelona 8378 for fpu computations percore?
[21:24] <pythonirc101> anyone running good multi-core servers here?
[21:24] <patdk-wk> what is a good multicore server?
[21:25]  * patdk-wk can't EVER remember running a single core server
[21:26] <pythonirc101> patdk-wk:  I was hoping to get some help on deciding on CPUs -- 6272 vs 6274 vs Intel -- and how they compare with my older CPUs -- 8378
[21:26] <patdk-wk> no idea, I only run intel servers
[21:27] <pythonirc101> patdk-wk: I've a budget of 10k, what would you recommend for me as the intel cpu I should look for? If I want 32-cores -- probably I can't afford intel?
[21:28] <patdk-wk> I dunno why you would want 32cores
[21:29] <patdk-wk> if you wanted fpu power
[21:29] <patdk-wk> atleast I don't think fpu power is increases as cores increase
[21:29] <patdk-wk> you would need to know what your looking for, and find benchmarks that relate to it
[21:29] <pythonirc101> patdk-wk: Each core has an FPU -- at least for my current 8378
[21:30] <patdk-wk> ya, I don't know much about fpu's, I try never to use them :)
[21:30] <patdk-wk> but I thought at some point, they where shared between cores
[21:30] <patdk-wk> maybe not these days
[21:30] <pythonirc101> the new opterons do that
[21:31] <patdk-wk> I know cpu speed doesn't match for amd vs intel
[21:31] <patdk-wk> but I normally look at it if you need ram cache or not
[21:31] <patdk-wk> as amd has a very small cache
[21:31] <chronos> Good night.
[21:31] <patdk-wk> and intel has large caches
[21:32] <patdk-wk> and that is mainly what makes the intel cpu much more expensive
[21:32] <chronos> Some dev here have a idea of why this serious bug isn't worked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/992842
[21:32] <patdk-wk> so if cache is useless, likely stick with amd
[21:32] <chronos> this break a server being updated
[21:32] <pythonirc101> can one put a E5-2690 in a 4 cpu config?
[21:32] <patdk-wk> unless you can benchmark it and fine intel is better
[21:32] <patdk-wk> pythonirc101, nope
[21:32] <patdk-wk> e5 is dual cpu only
[21:33] <pythonirc101> so E7-4807
[21:33] <patdk-wk> yes
[21:34] <patdk-wk> it must be a e7-4xxx not sure if any of those are limited to 2 cpu, but normally if not all do 4 cpu
[21:34] <pythonirc101> so $1k per processor
[21:34] <pythonirc101> how much is the MB?
[21:35] <patdk-wk> a lot
[21:35] <pythonirc101> so can't build it under 10k?
[21:36] <patdk-wk> not too bad
[21:36] <patdk-wk> 3k for case+mb
[21:36] <patdk-wk> could, but would be tight
[21:37] <patdk-wk> atleast 1k in ram likely
[21:38] <pythonirc101> patdk-wk: seems like intel is not selling it to general system builders -- that cpu!
[21:40] <patdk-wk> everyone is reselling them via ibm
[21:41] <patdk-wk> http://www.provantage.com/ibm-88y6070~7IBM9X4T.htm
[21:41] <patdk-wk> or serversupply if you want alittle cheaper
[22:34] <pythonirc101> patdk-wk: what's a good chasis + mb for E7-4807?