[01:21] <thafreak> how long does vista print usually take...when they say 14 days is it 14 business days?
[01:29] <jrgifford> thafreak: 14 business days
[01:29] <jrgifford> or shipping days
[01:29] <jrgifford> i had to wait an effective 3 weeks before i got mine.
[01:30] <jrgifford> paultag: sunlight has nice android apps.
[01:30] <paultag> jrgifford: thanks!
[01:30] <jrgifford> was starting to wish I had moved to android sooner.
[01:31] <jrgifford> paultag: even on a tablet they look good, and afaik none of them are designed for a tablet, right?
[01:31] <paultag> jrgifford: we made sure the layouts were ractive
[01:32] <jrgifford> paultag: ah, gotcha.
[01:32] <paultag> jrgifford: they handle landscape / port with the same code, so it just adapts to what it sees
[01:32] <paultag> some hot code in there
[01:32] <jrgifford> so are they really just an HTML frame, or are they native?
[01:33] <paultag> native
[01:33] <jrgifford> </end stupid questions i could the answers to by looking on github>
[01:33] <paultag> 100% native
[01:33] <paultag> nah, fire away
[01:34] <paultag> jrgifford: https://github.com/sunlightlabs/congress ← code if you care to play with it
[01:34] <paultag> but I'm happy to answer questions, I reviewed some of it
[01:34] <paultag> (going to fork it for Open States shortly)
[01:37] <jrgifford> LOL. nice one - http://politwoops.sunlightfoundation.com/
[01:37] <paultag> hahaha
[01:37] <paultag> that's one of my favs
[01:38] <paultag> I tweeted a good one last weekend
[01:38] <paultag> jrgifford: http://politwoops.sunlightfoundation.com/tweet/241374356276645888
[01:38] <paultag> Nothing like 80's coke addicted James Brown to close out a Republican convention #GOPconvention
[01:39] <jrgifford> http://publicmarkup.org/ - like github but for congress, but not?
[01:39] <jrgifford> hahahah. nice one. :D
[01:39] <paultag> oh lordy, http://publicmarkup.org/
[01:39] <paultag> people can comment on legislation, etc
[01:40] <jrgifford> so it's almost like open congress/govtrack, but not?
[01:40] <paultag> lotta crazies
[01:40] <paultag> it uses govtrack
[01:40] <paultag> but it lets people comment on important bills
[01:40] <paultag> it's largely defunct
[01:40] <jrgifford> oh i'm sure. but there has *got* to be some people who ocassionally make sense. ;)
[01:40] <paultag> http://publicmarkup.org/bill/superpac-act/3/301/#comments_start
[01:41] <paultag> SO MUCH SPAM
[01:41] <paultag> ok, wow, that's bad
[01:41] <paultag> yeah that site is old
[01:41] <paultag> jrgifford: anything with our old logo is defunct these days
[01:41] <jrgifford> paultag: fair enough
[01:42] <jrgifford> i need me a disaster recovery plan bro!
[01:42] <paultag> :)
[01:42] <paultag> brb, top gear
[01:44] <jrgifford> upwardly.us is pretty interesting. says i should move to boulder, CO, or ann arbor. not bad. i'll stick with cleveland, thanks though. :)
[02:45] <thafreak> my new disaster recovery plan...dump everything to removable disks, keep them stored in anti-shock carrying cases
[02:45] <thafreak> dump copies of those disks to amazon glacier periodically
[05:31] <canthus13> Whee.. Someone from china has connected to my MOO several times.  They never actually created an account.. I assume they were rather confused as to what it was. (And why the heck were they connecting to a random IP on 8888 anyway?)
[12:41] <snap-l> canthus13: MIght just be a random probe.
[13:05] <canthus13> snap-l: the same IP logged in 6 or 8 times. Never got past the login screen.
[13:06] <canthus13> Besides.. port 8888 isn't exactly a commonly probed port.
[13:07] <paultag> challah alle
[13:07] <paultag> canthus13: hahaha, awesome.
[13:47] <dzho> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2205462/idf-intel-says-clover-trail-will-not-work-with-linux
[13:47] <dzho> so, is that "Linux" as in GNU/Linux or is that as in, the kernel that powers Android?
[13:55] <snap-l> I'd hope Intel isn't that short-sighted.
[13:55] <snap-l> I'd rather believe shoddy reporting than Intel putting artificial barriers on a chip
[13:56] <paultag> SAN FRANCISCO: CHIPMAKER Intel has confirmed that it will not provide support for Linux on its Clover Trail Atom chip.
[13:56] <paultag> when have they ever?
[13:57] <snap-l> And if they don't support Linux, there's less of an onus for folks who know better to buy them
[13:57] <dzho> http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature/279817.htm haha Mandriva
[13:58] <snap-l> Making a pariah is a perfectly valid business decision
[14:34] <thafreak> looks like I'll be sticking with AMD cpus then
[14:35] <thafreak> not that I was planning on buying any intels anyway...well I may have bought an atom in the near future
[14:35] <thafreak> guess it will be an amd fusion instead
[14:37] <thafreak> is it just me, or does it seem sad that Micro$oft needs all this help from various vendors to even have a chance with it's phone and tablet ventures?
[14:37] <thafreak> First they get nokia to ditch linux...now intel is making a chip just for them...
[14:38] <canthus13> seems to me like Intel isn't much into the tablet market anyway..
[15:33] <thafreak> yeah, but I think they wish they were
[15:33] <thafreak> I think arm chaps their asses
[15:34] <thafreak> I'm thinking they wish they would have bought arm out back in the day
[15:37] <canthus13> ...and they're too proud to license the manufacturing rights from ARM. :)
[15:46] <thafreak> http://gigaom.com/cloud/open-source-champ-mark-shuttleworth-invests-1m-ceph-storage-startup/
[15:46] <thafreak> good news for ceph...
[15:47] <thafreak> the backend part of which, the rados storage nodes...are really easy to set up
[15:47] <thafreak> which is a nice change from most clustered things