[09:16] Morning [12:05] morning [13:44] I see I am booting from vmlinuz-3.0.0-19-generic, while /boot contains 18 thru 25. How is grub doing this ? Is it booting from mount point /boot rather than the mounted drive ? [13:49] InHisName, umm [13:50] the way grub works is it loads the vmlinux kernels, and possibly other files, from the boot partition [13:50] then it tells the kernel what is the root filesystem mount point, which may or may not contain /boot [13:51] the /boot parittion & the / partition are both identified by UUID's. [13:51] which ensures that it always mounts/uses the correct partition, no matter how you re-arrange your drives [13:52] (only sloppy partition/disk cloning could cause 2 partitions to have the same UUID) [13:52] as for which vmlinuz kernel it uses [13:52] with both GRUB1 & GRUB2, "update-grub" lists all the installed kernels under /boot/ [13:52] and prepares a menu where you can chose them [13:53] there are configuration options, but it should default to either the newest version (in terms of version #),, or the last version you installed [13:53] you can of course configure grub (see the ubuntu wiki page) to make you always see the grub boot menu w/ kernel selection for 10 seconds or whatever [13:54] or you can hold down left shift during boot to make the grub menu come up manually [15:06] Morning peeps [16:09] I've run boot-repair on my machine. [16:10] It gave me a pastebin of info when it finished. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205044/ [16:10] It seems to know about TWO /boot/ directories. /dev/sda1/ AND /dev/sdb1/ [16:11] When I update software it updats /dev/sdb1/ BUT when system boots it boots off /dev/sda1/ ...... [16:11] So How to get it to boot off /dev/sdb1/ instead ? [16:12] hit "e" when you get to the grub screen to edit the boot prompt [16:12] change it to 1,0 (instead of 0,0) [16:12] So its buried in the mbr. I shoulda guessed that. [16:12] easy to do fix, also. [16:13] it doesn't persist, so you'll still need to update grub on your system to point to the correct device [16:13] will that edit be permanent ? [16:13] no [16:14] Where to update grub while running ? [16:14] in /etc/default/grub [16:14] The BIOS is going to continue bootstrapping from the first hard disk unless there is an option to change it though [16:14] then run: sudo update-grub [16:14] ChinnoDog: grub is after the bios [16:14] with grub you can look at whichever disk you want [16:15] Yes, but is the goal to eliminate depdendency on /dev/sda or to load the boot sector from /dev/sda1 and boot to /dev/sdb1? [16:15] (doesn't matter what the bios is doing, as long as it sees both drives) [16:15] So what app to start to effect the permanent change to grub? [16:15] the goal is to tell grub that the root filesystem is on sdb1 so it can boot [16:16] the os [16:16] InHisName: 09:14:20 < pleia2> then run: sudo update-grub [16:16] ok, off to work for me [16:16] good luck :) [16:17] Ok I guess it was automatic? It found all the newer kernels in the sdb1 area. [16:50] One more thing to fix, I needed to adjust bios to boot the 2nd drive first. Now all is working great again. [17:17] Working better now. [18:41] I found a cell phone. [18:41] On the Conshohocken bridge. [18:41] Everything on it was in Turkish. [19:47] Hi peoples === Joe_CoT is now known as CoT_Joe [19:48] JonathanD: sounds like on of my drivers phones [19:49] JonathanD: look up ekmek in contacts [19:49] jedijf: I already returned it. [19:51] teşekkür [19:53] The owner works at the mcds in consh [19:53] Google translate helped. [19:55] haha tell me about it - and i use the android app "Talk To Me" - wish it worked reverse for espionage though [19:55] i have like 30 word turkish vocabulary and then all my hand gestures [20:00] I really just went through the text messages til I found one in english, then texted that guy :P [20:00] He said the guy worked at mcd, so I walked over... he was there. [20:00] But he speaks almost no english. [20:01] This other girl there speaks both englihs and turkish === CoT_Joe is now known as Joe_CoT [21:23] freebase [21:25] come on waltman - no funky friday?