[09:16] <rmg51>  Morning
[12:05] <InHisName> morning
[13:44] <InHisName> I see I am booting from vmlinuz-3.0.0-19-generic, while /boot contains 18 thru 25.    How is grub doing this ?  Is it booting from mount point /boot rather than the mounted drive ?
[13:49] <mikedep333> InHisName, umm
[13:50] <mikedep333> the way grub works is it loads the vmlinux kernels, and possibly other files, from the boot partition
[13:50] <mikedep333> then it tells the kernel what is the root filesystem mount point, which may or may not contain /boot
[13:51] <mikedep333> the /boot parittion & the / partition are both identified by UUID's.
[13:51] <mikedep333> which ensures that it always mounts/uses the correct partition, no matter how you re-arrange your drives
[13:52] <mikedep333> (only sloppy partition/disk cloning could cause 2 partitions to have the same UUID)
[13:52] <mikedep333> as for which vmlinuz kernel it uses
[13:52] <mikedep333> with both GRUB1 & GRUB2, "update-grub" lists all the installed kernels under /boot/
[13:52] <mikedep333> and prepares a menu where you can chose them
[13:53] <mikedep333> there are configuration options, but it should default to either the newest version (in terms of version #),, or the last version you installed
[13:53] <mikedep333> you can of course configure grub (see the ubuntu wiki page) to make you always see the grub boot menu w/ kernel selection for 10 seconds or whatever
[13:54] <mikedep333> or you can hold down left shift during boot to make the grub menu come up manually
[15:06] <ChinnoDog> Morning peeps
[16:09] <InHisName> I've run boot-repair on my machine.
[16:10] <InHisName> It gave me a pastebin of info when it finished.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205044/
[16:10] <InHisName> It seems to know about TWO /boot/ directories.   /dev/sda1/   AND /dev/sdb1/
[16:11] <InHisName> When I update software it updats /dev/sdb1/    BUT when system boots it boots off /dev/sda1/  ......
[16:11] <InHisName> So How to get it to boot off /dev/sdb1/ instead ?
[16:12] <pleia2> hit "e" when you get to the grub screen to edit the boot prompt
[16:12] <pleia2> change it to 1,0 (instead of 0,0)
[16:12] <InHisName> So its buried in the mbr.  I shoulda guessed that.
[16:12] <InHisName> easy to do fix, also.
[16:13] <pleia2> it doesn't persist, so you'll still need to update grub on your system to point to the correct device
[16:13] <InHisName> will that edit be permanent ?
[16:13] <pleia2> no
[16:14] <InHisName> Where to update grub while running ?
[16:14] <pleia2> in /etc/default/grub
[16:14] <ChinnoDog> The BIOS is going to continue bootstrapping from the first hard disk unless there is an option to change it though
[16:14] <pleia2> then run: sudo update-grub
[16:14] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: grub is after the bios
[16:14] <pleia2> with grub you can look at whichever disk you want
[16:15] <ChinnoDog> Yes, but is the goal to eliminate depdendency on /dev/sda or to load the boot sector from /dev/sda1 and boot to /dev/sdb1?
[16:15] <pleia2> (doesn't matter what the bios is doing, as long as it sees both drives)
[16:15] <InHisName> So what app to start to effect the permanent change to grub?
[16:15] <pleia2> the goal is to tell grub that the root filesystem is on sdb1 so it can boot
[16:16] <pleia2> the os
[16:16] <pleia2> InHisName: 09:14:20 < pleia2> then run: sudo update-grub
[16:16] <pleia2> ok, off to work for me
[16:16] <pleia2> good luck :)
[16:17] <InHisName> Ok I guess it was automatic?   It found all the newer kernels in the sdb1 area.
[16:50] <InHisName> One more thing to fix, I needed to adjust bios to boot the 2nd drive first.  Now all is working great again.
[17:17] <InHisName> Working better now.
[18:41] <JonathanD> I found a cell phone.
[18:41] <JonathanD> On the Conshohocken bridge.
[18:41] <JonathanD> Everything on it was in Turkish.
[19:47] <teddy-dbear> Hi peoples
[19:48] <jedijf> JonathanD: sounds like on of my drivers phones
[19:49] <jedijf> JonathanD: look up ekmek in contacts
[19:49] <JonathanD> jedijf: I already returned it.
[19:51] <jedijf> teşekkür
[19:53] <JonathanD> The owner works at the mcds in consh
[19:53] <JonathanD> Google translate helped.
[19:55] <jedijf> haha tell me about it - and i use the android app "Talk To Me" - wish it worked reverse for espionage though
[19:55] <jedijf> i have like 30 word turkish vocabulary and then all my hand gestures
[20:00] <JonathanD> I really just went through the text messages til I found one in english, then texted that guy :P
[20:00] <JonathanD> He said the guy worked at mcd, so I walked over... he was there.
[20:00] <JonathanD> But he speaks almost no english.
[20:01] <JonathanD> This other girl there speaks both englihs and turkish
[21:23] <jedijf> freebase
[21:25] <jedijf> come on waltman - no funky friday?