/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/14/#ubuntu-za.txt

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magespawngood morning05:33
Squirmmorning05:40
magespawno/05:41
inetprogood morning05:57
superflymorning magespawn, Squirm, inetpro06:42
magespawnme o/ waves to inetpro and superfly06:43
magespawnlol06:43
* magespawn o/ waves to inetpro and superfly06:43
magespawnbetter06:43
superflyhaha06:43
Squirm»» Received a CTCP ACTION from magespawn (to #ubuntu-za)06:43
Squirmyou did it wrong06:44
Squirmwhat did you beak06:44
magespawnmm i see06:44
magespawnbeak?06:44
inetprolol06:45
jrgnsmorning all07:03
superflyhi jrgns07:04
sflrmorning all07:36
jrgnsmosrning sflr08:06
SquirmI found a job post open08:20
SquirmYou will be the only onsite IT expert to this agency of marketers and administrators who needs their small network of a Server, 8 PCs and a Mac to be connected and working at optimum level 24/7! 08:20
Squirmwhat would the new 'IT expert' do all day?08:21
Kerberotech support08:22
Squirmyeah, but it's 8 machines08:22
Squirmimo, it'll be boring08:22
Kerberofor their home pc's which they will bring in for you to have a look at08:22
sflrMac is full of problems08:29
sflryou can always convince them that they need to upgrade and get some funky hardware you can play with :)08:30
Squirmconvince them they need a few bonded uncapped, unshaped lines08:38
Squirmthen I'd be happy :P08:39
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smilehoi :p15:47
Cantide^^15:48
smileCantide: you are in love, aren't you :p15:53
Cantidesmile ?15:53
Cantidehaha15:53
Cantidewhat kind of question is that?15:53
smilea weird one :p15:54
Cantidewith whom do you think i am in love? :D15:55
Cantide=_=15:59
Cantide<Cantide> with whom do you think i am in love? :D16:00
Cantidesmile ^16:00
smileo.O16:02
smilelol I don't know xD16:02
Cantidemeh16:11
Cantidesmile ?16:11
smilelol I don't know xD16:11
smilei said16:11
smile:p16:11
Cantideoh16:11
Cantidei didn't get the message because my PC crashed... twice -.-16:11
Cantidewhat makes you think i'm in love?! 'o'16:12
magespawnevening all16:28
smilebye :p16:29
smilenothing :p16:30
smile^^16:30
smilejust guessing16:30
smilebye bye16:30
kbmonkeyhello16:36
kbmonkeymagespawn, :)16:37
magespawnhey kbmonkey 16:37
magespawnwhat up?16:38
Cantidehmmmmmmmmmmmm16:43
kbmonkeytfig, that's what ;D hmm16:43
kbmonkeytgif* 16:43
kbmonkeydo you still have that ibid dev setup magespawn? I finally got that greeter script here :)16:44
kbmonkeyI don't have ibid or irc server setup on this pc, but can give you the ibid plugin: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18686471/scripts/greeter.py16:45
magespawnno I took it down awhile ago, I will set up again now though16:45
magespawnty16:45
magespawnhow to change the default idle time? i have it open in a editor now.16:48
kbmonkeythe default can be changed via the ibid plugin commands16:52
kbmonkeyI cant remember the specific Ibid commands to configure a plugin. sorry :/16:52
kbmonkeyhang on, maaz will know...16:53
kbmonkeyit should place the plugin under the 'monitor' category.16:55
kbmonkeymaaz, help me with monitoring things16:56
Maazkbmonkey: I use the following features for monitoring things: coffee, http, icecast, meeting and ping16:56
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.16:56
kbmonkeygreet will show in there when it is loaded16:56
kbmonkeygreeter*16:56
magespawnahh cool16:58
magespawnhello Maaz16:58
magespawnMaaz hello16:58
MaazSup magespawn16:58
magespawnMaaz coffee on16:58
* Maaz starts grinding coffee16:58
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee please17:01
Maazkbmonkey: Okay17:01
superflyhome at last17:02
kbmonkeymagespawn, the default timeout is 5 mins. that is okay?17:02
MaazCoffee's ready for magespawn and kbmonkey!17:02
magespawnyeah should be17:02
kbmonkeyfigured we can adjust this after a trial run17:03
magespawnMaaz ty17:03
MaazYou are welcome magespawn17:03
kbmonkeyMaaz, ty17:03
MaazYou are welcome kbmonkey17:03
magespawnhow do you exit vi?17:03
kbmonkey:q17:03
magespawnhey superfly17:04
superflyyo magespawn, kbmonkey17:04
kbmonkeyhi sup:D17:04
kbmonkeysuperfly, welcome17:05
superflykbmonkey: heh. i'm here way more than you :-P17:05
magespawnseriously i opened the file in vim on my tablet and now cannot close it17:05
kbmonkeyexcuse that, not sure what happened there17:05
magespawnlol17:05
kbmonkeyuse ":q!" to quit discarding changes17:05
superflymagespawn: press escape, then type :q17:05
kbmonkeyor ":wq" to write changes and quit17:06
magespawnahh found it, line of touch commands on the top ty17:06
kbmonkeyvi on a tablet? now that is hardcore XD17:07
magespawni was learning how to use it through some website so when i saw going through thr play store i downloaded it17:08
magespawnthr=the17:08
superflybad kbmonkey... IndentationError: unexpected indent17:09
magespawnnow i just need to use it enough to get used to it17:09
magespawnwhere superfly?17:10
kbmonkeysorry superfly :(17:10
superflykbmonkey: that's why we always use spaces17:11
kbmonkeyI copied the file off my other pc, I made a change without testing. No Ibid on this system17:11
kbmonkeylet me fix it..17:11
magespawni thought you were supposed to use idents17:11
* magespawn goes to reread the python style guide17:12
superflykbmonkey: try joining #linux-studies17:12
superflymagespawn: yes, but only use spaces, not tabs17:12
magespawnsorry i meant tabs17:12
magespawnfour spaces if i remember correctly17:13
superflyyes17:13
kbmonkeyah, this new system had vi set to use tabs. I fixed it. apologies.17:13
kbmonkeyyes, 4 spaces :)17:14
magespawni cannot remember the reason at the moment, but you should never mix them17:14
superflykbmonkey: also, take a look at PEP817:14
magespawnthats the one i meant too17:14
kbmonkeyI have PEP8 bookmarked, always17:14
superflymagespawn: "IndentationError: unexpected indent" is the reason17:14
kbmonkeyI have removed the tab, and replaced it with spaces. the updated file is still at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18686471/scripts/greeter.py17:15
magespawnis is on a specific line?17:15
superflykbmonkey: also, investigate using the DB to store the list of known nicks17:15
superflymagespawn: line 7217:15
magespawnbrb17:16
superflylet's try this...17:16
iTwinkletonberryE352: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinklebarns_: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleTonberry: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleCantide: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleubuntulog_: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinklesimeon_: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkledrussell: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinklemrs_fly: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleHodgestar: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleconfluency: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkledrubin: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleSuperhuman: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinkleSubOracle: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
iTwinklesakhi: Hello, I am a robot greeter. Our channel is a bit quiet at the moment, but say hi anyway and hang around. Someone is bound to respond :)17:16
superflyouch17:16
kbmonkeyand line 8817:16
drussellrofl17:16
superflykbmonkey: bad kbmonkey17:16
cocooncrashHahaha17:16
kbmonkeyno please test in a private channel first17:16
magespawnlol17:16
superflykbmonkey: I tried, no one complied17:17
kbmonkeylol17:17
magespawn#magespawn and ##kilos17:17
kbmonkeycomplied?17:17
kbmonkeyah, did not see those messages17:17
superfly<superfly> kbmonkey: try joining #linux-studies17:17
superflykbmonkey: did what i asked17:18
superflykbmonkey: to comply is to do what somewhat asks you to do17:18
kbmonkeyit's not supposed to trigger the message on load though.17:18
magespawnwell theoretically the bot would be here first, and it only tiggered for those inactive nicks17:19
Cantideo___o;;;17:19
kbmonkeytrue. but in cases (example netsplit) we need to test for those cases17:19
kbmonkeycould not finish testing before I last worked on it. with your help magespawn we can fix it :)17:20
magespawncould get flooded with greets if the splits happen like before lol17:20
magespawnbrb17:23
magespawnright17:32
magespawnhow do we go about testing this?17:33
superflymagespawn: like i did :-P17:39
magespawnright17:39
Kilosevening guys17:46
Cantidehey Kilos 17:46
Kilos8ta fixed again17:46
Cantidegreat :)17:46
Kilosyo Cantide 17:46
Cantidelet's hope it stays fixed :)17:46
Kilosyeah im smiling. was worried about monday nights meeting17:46
Cantideheh17:47
nuvolarihello :)17:48
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 17:48
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:48
magespawnhey Kilos17:48
nuvolarilo magespawn, Cantide, superfly, kbmonkey 17:48
Kilosdie netiquette ding pla jou ne17:48
nuvolariapie, is jy reg vir m^ORE17:48
nuvolariffs :/17:48
Kiloshey magespawn 17:48
Cantideheya nuvolari '<17:48
superflyhi nuvolari17:48
nuvolari*môre17:48
Kiloshey kbmonkey are you actually here17:48
magespawnwow ppl this channel has been really quite17:48
Kiloshi superfly 17:49
nuvolari*quiet17:49
Kiloslol magespawn because i was offline17:49
nuvolarioom Kilos, he left a trail about 30 minutes ago :P17:49
Kilosi bet theres lotsa sighs of relief when my net crashes17:49
magespawni really thought so17:49
Cantidei save on bandwidth17:50
Cantide:p17:50
magespawnnot really17:50
nuvolariit's the *weeeekeeeeend* :D17:50
Cantideweekend has been long overdue!17:51
CantideKilos, conversation is welcome :)17:51
Kilosyeah a whole week17:51
nuvolarifor sure17:51
CantideKilos, i worked the last two weekends17:51
Cantideso more like 3 weeks for me ._.17:51
Kilosdoing what Cantide ?17:51
Cantidethe bank never sleeps17:51
Cantideokay, except Sunday17:51
Kilosworked or studied17:51
Kilosah17:52
Cantideworked.... and studied a little17:52
Kilosyou gotta study lots lad17:52
Cantide6 weeks to go :)17:52
magespawnty nuvolari 17:52
Cantidei can't wait17:52
nuvolariwe never stop learing oom Kilos :-/17:52
nuvolarione of the quirks of beeing geek17:52
Cantidetrue that17:52
Cantidelearning is great though '-'17:52
nuvolarithis week I hit a flat spot17:53
Kilosya nuvolari but Cantide likes to jol in between and leave things to the last minute17:53
nuvolariit didn't feel like I achieved anything at all17:53
Kilosaw why nuvolari ?17:53
Cantidelast minute is best - pressure ensures i get it done while wasting little time :)17:53
Kiloshehe17:53
nuvolaridunno oom17:53
nuvolariI just get such times17:54
Cantidenuvolari, that's how i've felt for the last two days ._.17:54
Cantidejust in a slump17:54
Cantidegotta crawl out of it and carry on17:54
Kilosi only slump when my internet crashes or i run outa data17:54
Cantideand the best way to do that is to start doing something :)17:54
nuvolariCantide: yeah, and no matter how hard you try, the harder you try the worse the results turns out17:54
Cantidelol17:54
Cantidenuvolari, sometimes, but persistence pays off in the end17:55
Kilosmagespawn, hows things there by you?17:55
Kilosi actually missed you buncha geeks the last 4 days17:55
magespawngood and you kilos?17:55
Kilosgood ty magespawn 17:56
nuvolariat least someone missed us17:56
nuvolarisjoe, ek gaan eers skoene uitskop17:56
Kiloshehe17:57
magespawnwill that greeter trigger if we stay logged in but go 'away' and come back?17:59
Kiloswhat greeter17:59
Kilosgrrr17:59
Kiloshas the monkey come to life17:59
magespawnkbmonkey finished it18:00
Cantide>_>18:00
Kilosit only greets new nicks i think18:00
Cantideoh18:00
inetprogood morning18:00
Kilosyo inetpro 18:00
Kilos8ta fixed18:00
Cantidegood evening18:00
inetproeh Kilos18:00
inetpromooi18:00
inetprowat was fout?18:01
nuvolarihowdy inetpro18:01
Kilosdie fout is by hulle. maar hulle wil nooit luister nie18:01
nuvolarihrrr! IRC always starts to lag as soon as I need to type18:01
inetprohi nuvolari18:01
Kilostoe kom hulle tk en sy lappy was die selle18:01
inetprowhat time did they come Kilos?18:02
Kilos11am18:02
Kilos2 mins to18:02
inetproyou only connected like 19:4618:02
Kilosbut he had to write a report and send that in18:02
Kilosi didnt see the missed calls on the fone18:02
bakumanhalooeee18:03
Kiloslo bakuman 18:03
inetprobakuman: eh18:03
bakuman\o/18:03
* inetpro wishes to turn back the clock18:03
inetproneed to go back to the days when the doctors used to jump on horseback to visit the family18:04
Kilos13.32 was the missed call inetpro 18:04
* bakuman is happy that The Doctor is back18:05
Kiloswhats wrong inetpro ? who's sick18:05
inetproKilos: I'm suspecting scarlet fever with all four my kids18:05
Kilosoh my18:05
inetprotwo of them having terrible fever18:06
magespawnare you sure inetpro?18:06
inetpromagespawn: not sure but very likely18:06
Kilosnot german measles18:07
Kilosscarlet fever has been dead for donkeys years18:07
inetproKilos: no signs on the body yet, just the tong having red spots 18:07
inetproon all four kiddies18:08
Kilosand fever18:08
inetproand fever18:08
Kilosi think its german measle time about now18:08
inetproeish18:08
* inetpro will have to control the fever and tonight and see the doc tomorrow18:09
Kilosand spots behind the ears and inside the cheeks18:09
inetprowill have to control the fever tonight18:09
Kilosaspirin18:09
inetpropenicillin 18:10
Kilosno man18:10
magespawnpanamor 18:10
Kilosdisprin18:10
inetproai18:10
inetpromagespawn: you a doc?18:10
Kilosand rub vicks under the feet and colddrink18:10
Kilosnot coke etc18:11
magespawnno 18:11
Kilosdrink lots as cold as possible and feed them icecream and/or jelly18:11
magespawnbut it is like voltaren supositeries18:11
magespawnwill break almost any fever18:11
Kilospanamor and panado same18:12
magespawnspelling is out the window18:12
Kilosaspirin is the best for fever18:12
Kilosdisprin not as good18:12
inetprosurely one should even be able to let a doctor see the symptoms with our modern technology of these days?18:12
magespawnthe sups work very quickly18:12
Kiloseeew18:12
Kilosi dont like that done to me but yes they are good18:13
magespawnhave two kids so habe experience18:13
magespawnand last longer tha 9ral medicine18:13
Kilosmethinks the doc doesnt even give anything for german measles, you wait it through18:13
magespawntypong going now too18:13
Kiloslol18:13
Kilosyou sick too magespawn ?18:14
inetproKilos: with scarlet fever you have to notify the authorities or something like that18:16
magespawnno fish 2 is though18:16
magespawncontagious disease18:16
Kiloshttp://www.freemd.com/german-measles/home-care.htm18:16
Kilosyeah its a bad thing inetpro but i havent heard of it for years18:17
Kilosgoogle german measles18:17
Kilosyou ous are germans18:18
inetproKilos: one of the kids in school was diagnosed with it this afternoon 18:18
Kilosoh my then doc first thing inna morn inetpro 18:18
magespawnwow not something you hear everyday18:18
inetprobut let me not start rumors here18:19
inetproI shall have to verify tomorrow18:19
magespawnvery short incubation period, caused by a varity of streptoccos18:19
Kilossteps die from oxytet antis hey18:20
inetproeish18:20
Kiloswhat eish18:20
inetprowatse taal praat jy nou?18:20
Kilosstrepto cocci 18:20
Kilosstrep and staffs18:21
Kilosoxytetracycline\18:21
Kilossuch as terramycin18:21
magespawnbut is easily cured18:21
Kilosarithromycin etc18:21
Kiloserithro18:21
Kiloswhew i forget spelling18:22
KilosScarlet fever shows up as a rash of little red bumps, which starts on the chest and belly but might spread all over and feel rough like sandpaper. Usually the rash is darker inside elbows, arm pits, and groin areas. It goes away after 2 to 7 days. Once the rash goes away, the tips of the fingers and toes begin to peel.18:24
Kilosinetpro, check18:25
Kilosbellies and chests18:25
superflyinetpro: webmd is a good site18:26
superflyeven doctors use it to look up symptoms18:26
inetproKilos: there are no signs on the body yet, already checked18:26
inetprobeen reading up on scarlet fever since about 17:0018:26
Kilosthen we hope its german measles18:26
inetprosuperfly: site?18:27
superflyinetpro: yup18:27
inetproahh http://www.webmd.com/18:27
superflyinetpro: and, in my experience, most doctors don't actually care to listen to your symptoms, they just diagnose you with their preconceived idea of what you have18:28
inetprosuperfly: yep, it's really sad18:29
superflywe've learned to do our own research, and to only go to one particular doc who *does* listen18:30
inetprooh and they have headaches18:31
inetprojust looks very very strange to me, if I look at all articles, that we see signs on the tongue first18:33
Kiloswhy not fone the parent of the kid you heard was diagnosed with it this morning18:34
Kilosthey musta seen a doc18:34
inetproKilos: yep I did18:34
Kilosand?18:34
inetproI haven't exactly seen the kid18:35
Kiloswhat meds did doc prescribe18:35
inetprobut apparently the signs are on the body18:35
Kilostheres also strepmouth or something18:35
magespawnthings do not always present the same way18:36
inetprooh well, we'll see tomorrow18:36
magespawncaused by the same bacteria18:36
Kiloseish not lekker when kids be sick18:38
magespawnnot at all18:42
inetpronow I would just love to know how to keep it from infecting the grown ups in the family18:47
inetprothe adults18:47
inetprowhich includes me mother in law at 8118:48
Kiloseat lotsa vit C pills18:48
Kilosand raw onion sarmies and red grape juice18:48
magespawnremove physical contact18:49
Kilostoo late18:49
inetproKilos: exactly18:49
Kilosevery cough or sneeze spreads them germs18:50
Kilosi cant member if germans like raw onion18:50
magespawnraw onion sarmies would stop the physical contact18:50
Kiloschopped fine on sarmy its not bad and keep bugs away18:51
inetproKilos: I really don't mind it with tomatoes 18:51
Kilosno man magespawn 18:51
Kiloswith tomato is fine18:51
magespawni liked it with cheese18:51
Kilosyeah18:51
magespawnKilos you never been around me after eating raw onion18:52
Kiloseven just bread and butter with finely chopped onion is ok18:52
Kilosnope magespawn what does it do18:52
Kilosdoesnt make breathe smell18:53
magespawnnot good even for me but does clear a room18:53
Kilosthats garlic18:53
Kilosthats you farting man18:53
magespawnonion too18:53
magespawnright18:53
Kiloslol18:53
magespawnfrom the onion18:53
Kilosnext day or hours later18:53
magespawnminutes sometimes18:54
magespawndepends how empty i am18:54
Kiloswow tyou a sick kinda pewrson18:54
Kiloswhew typos18:54
magespawnmm was something that came on with age 18:58
magespawnlol18:58
Kilosha ha ha18:59
Kilosmagespawn, do you get heartburn and or jippo guts easy19:00
magespawnno just certain foods produce certain reactions19:01
Kilosdid it start after a course of antibiotics19:02
magespawnno not that i noticed19:02
Kilosdo you eat yoghurt19:02
Kiloswith them live goodies in19:03
magespawnoften19:03
Kilosstink poops normally are a sign of an unhappy digestive system19:03
Kilosinetpro, good luck with the kids and doc tomorrow19:05
Kiloshi charlvn 19:05
charlvngood afternoon19:05
charlvnevening i mean19:05
inetproKilos: thanks19:05
charlvnhi Kilos 19:05
charlvnhi inetpro 19:05
Kilosinetpro, let us know hey19:05
inetprowill do19:05
Kilosty\19:05
magespawnhey charlvn19:05
charlvnhi magespawn 19:05
charlvnhow's it going with you all19:05
charlvni have been scarce :)19:06
Kiloswe all ok. except inetpro s kids19:06
charlvnshame, what's up?19:06
Kilosme too charlvn 8ta tower crashed19:06
inetprohi charlvn19:06
charlvnKilos: ah no, sorry to hear19:06
Kiloshe thinks maybe scarlet fever19:06
* inetpro kids are showing signs of scarlet fever19:06
charlvnlooking it up19:07
Kiloswas off for 4 days but fixed now again19:07
inetprowill have to confirm tomorrow19:07
charlvnah, a bacterial infection?19:07
charlvnthat's terrible, sorry to hear!19:07
charlvni had one of those too, was on an antibiotics drip for a week19:07
charlvnand then on pills for two more weeks19:08
Kiloscharlvn, i found a way to be happy with 12.0419:08
charlvnso you have my sympathy :(19:08
charlvnKilos: ah, how so? which desktop are you using now?19:08
Kilosmate19:08
charlvndesktop environment i mena19:08
charlvn*mean19:08
Kilosvery lekker19:08
charlvnah, this one? http://mate-desktop.org/19:08
Kilosya much faster  than unity19:09
charlvnah, very interesting19:09
charlvnhaven't tried it yet, i should give it a go19:09
charlvni like minimalist desktop environments19:09
Kilosand same as maverick19:09
Kilosfork of gnome219:09
charlvnah, i see now19:10
charlvnyeah was just reading the about page19:10
Kilosthey even have a channel on irc19:10
charlvnwell good, interesting19:10
Kilosnight guys. sleep tight19:11
charlvnnight Kilos 19:11
magespawnsuperfly how did you find those indent errors so quickly?19:27
superflymagespawn: I have my own ibid instance, and when I tried to load the plugin, there was an exception in the log file19:28
magespawnahh19:28
superflyit told me there was a problem loading the plugin19:28
magespawnit could not use it correctly because of the indent errors?19:29
superflyindeed not19:31
magespawnwow did not realise it would stop something in its tracks19:31
magespawnnight all inetpro good luck20:16
inetpronight magespawn, thanks20:17
charlvnnn21:30
charlvninetpro: best of luck with the infection!21:30
charlvndoesn't sound like anything too serious that some antibiotics can't fix21:30
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