[00:39] my screen hangs after some activity .. i have a usb install [00:40] like after 4 hours [00:40] nothing happens then.. option left is reboot manually from CPU [00:44] what kind of comp have you got? [00:51] Presonus_Probs: its AMD 32 bit [00:51] but my linux is on 8 GB flash [00:52] is there any command so i cand pastebin the system info [00:54] you know dude I only just installed this stuff a few hours ago and im still new as hell to it, but someone told me to use this sudo lshw > ~/Desktop/lshw.txt [00:55] to make a txtfile you can pastebin, its got a hell of a lot of stuff on there [00:55] might be what you're after, someone experienced please jump in and save this guy if I just told him to sell his cc information :) thanks [00:57] ok no probs [00:57] dont worry some may be coming [00:58] so what are you planning on your new box [00:59] Im trying to use my presonus mixing desk from my lounge :P [00:59] and record audio from my drum room from upstairs over the network [01:00] but we're having probs with my firewire card [03:07] hi guys back, still got firewire problems [03:07] its recognising my desk now though [03:23] i use a presonus firepod [03:23] i would start JACK as root to troubleshoot [03:23] some firewire chipsets are just not very good [03:24] not very sure how to do that :P [03:25] tried this in another channel [03:25] ffado test gives me this - http://pastebin.com/hcSDUm0L [03:25] but jackd -d firewire gives me this - http://pastebin.com/DAcxHu2D [03:26] is there a command to start jack as root [03:26] Presonus_Probs: if you feel like you have "broken" something by configuring, you can fire up the live CD [03:26] Presonus_Probs: i usually run "gksudo qjackctl" [03:26] just been told to do this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nae-team/ppa [03:26] i dont think ive broken anything its a clean install [03:27] just installed it this morning, had #jack and #lad poring over it [03:28] now when I set up jack, to use the firewire Im using the freebob driver, right? [03:28] because im getting this D-BUS: ResetParameterValue('driver:device'): [03:28] Invalid container address 'driver':'device':'(null)' supplied to method 'ResetParameterValue'.. [03:28] (org.jackaudio.Error.InvalidArgs) [03:29] Presonus_Probs: the firewire driver is the new ffado driver... if it fails, you can try the older freebob one [03:29] Presonus_Probs: i would do what i listed above [03:29] gksudo qjackctl [03:30] this will start the JACK gui config as root, which will start JACK as root [03:30] Could not connect to JACK server as client. [03:30] - Overall operation failed. [03:30] - Unable to connect to server. [03:30] Please check the messages window for more info. [03:30] Presonus_Probs: select the "firewire" driver [03:30] firewire driver selected [03:30] default interface [03:30] Presonus_Probs: as root? [03:30] as root, copied and pasted into terminal [03:30] http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=presonus&filter1=&op2=OR [03:30] you see the device listed there? [03:31] i would look at the output of lspci and see what chipset the FW device is [03:31] nah i did check that before I installed [03:31] but FFADO recognised it [03:31] i have good luck with texas instruments [03:31] Presonus_Probs: thats just a device id... dont get excited [03:32] damn [03:32] Presonus_Probs: i would check the chipset of the FW card [03:32] link it here if you'l like [03:32] i have a VIA chip that works well too [03:35] https://launchpad.net/~nae-team/+archive/ppa looks as if it might be something someone would learn some information from [03:35] it wont provide support for your device though [03:36] i wouldnt waste time with that [03:37] lspci -vv results http://paste.ubuntu.com/1204042/ [03:38] tripping over my fingers :) [03:38] firewire is there [03:38] 01:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): LSI Corporation FW322/323 (rev 61) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) [03:38] Subsystem: Adaptec Device 0033 [03:38] Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- [03:38] Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 64 (3000ns min, 6000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes [03:38] Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19 [03:38] Region 0: Memory at dffff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] [03:38] Capabilities: [03:38] Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci [03:38] Kernel modules: firewire-ohci [03:39] i use texas instruments whenever i can [03:39] i have had the firepod fail on a few chipsets [03:39] agere hardware [03:40] is that your problem? im not sure, but searching around, it doesnt look like it [03:40] i think this is adaptec [03:40] Presonus_Probs: it is adaptec [03:40] ok [03:40] but, im not familiar with adaptec, so i cant personally say it'll work.... or its the problem [03:40] I just dont really know what the problem is [03:41] if i had my firepod there, we'd take that as a "known good" device, and test the chipset [03:41] now, you have several variables to sortout [03:41] i know the card works in windows, no idea with ubuntu though [03:41] you have a device that you dont know is supported [03:41] and you have a chipset that you dont know will work [03:42] if it were me, i would try and search around and find *anyone* with that device [03:42] ask them to load up an ubuntustudio live CD and see if it works [03:42] i would try some different live CD's and see if the different kernel/ffado versions make any difference [03:43] AVlinux... gnuguitarinx [03:43] whatever you feel like download and burning [03:43] do you have any recommended distros for recording? [03:43] i would email the ubuntustudio list.. the ffado list, and whatever else [03:43] Presonus_Probs: i use ubuntustudio [03:43] Presonus_Probs: you might learn what software will better support your hardware by trying some different live CD's.. thats my idea [03:44] have you ever encountered these sorts of problems with Jack? [03:44] could it be a novice error? [03:44] Presonus_Probs: its not a problem with JACK [03:44] Presonus_Probs: if you want to contact presonus and/or adaptec and ask them to support ubuntustudio, everything will "just work" [03:44] otherwise, this the the issues most folks face [03:45] we are not allowed to support some devices [03:45] my firepod works well [03:45] i say, plan for linux when you are purchasing hardware, as best you can [03:45] damn will have to hunt down a texas instruments chipset [03:46] Presonus_Probs: maybe.. it could be the presonus you have though [03:46] i heard firepod worked and wanted to go with a desk [03:46] i would hunt down a supported FW device to borrow and test hte chip [03:46] Presonus_Probs: it'll be different though... [03:46] the fact that one presonus works is not constructive or helpful necessarily [03:47] i have a friend who runs a presonus 24 with WINE, but i dont know if you can stream the channels over network that way [03:47] Presonus_Probs: JACK connects to what it connects to [03:47] if it shows in JACK, you connect it to whatever you are streaming with, and it works [03:47] i dont use WINE with mine [03:47] maybe you can plug that in and test your chipset? [03:48] channels like #opensourcemusicians can help as well [03:48] im a bit hesitant, presonus drivers are licensed and can only be installed a certain number of times [03:49] thanks for the link, ill drop them a chat too - pounding the net for this solution if it exists [03:49] i dont purchase hardware or software im afraid of, so i cant give any suggestions there [03:49] someone also suggested arch linux as a fix, but i dont really like linux that much.... [03:49] i would just do the normal troubleshooting path... reduce variables [03:50] Presonus_Probs: try some live arch distro [03:50] Presonus_Probs: the kernel and ffado versions are what you are interested in exploring, however you choose to do that [03:50] JACK is JACK.. so is ffado.. all these tools are the same from distro to distro pretty much [03:51] you want to try arch, i say, try something live and easy to load.. otherwise, you'll spend (waste) a lot of time just installing arch [03:52] if arch works, you can either use arch, or learn from that experience what packages are needed to make it work in ubuntu, or whatever distro you want to use [03:53] what do i think? i think ffado isnt able to support that device right now [03:56] ive been google digging, and it seems my user account doesnt have admin priviledges [03:56] Presonus_Probs: thats why, as a troubleshooting step, i suggest starting JACK as root [03:56] this removes that from the list of variables [03:57] ah ok [03:57] cool, just throwing the results around as I find them :) [03:57] you troubleshoot as root [03:57] when it starts as root, you know the hardware is capable of working [03:57] then, you can start as normal user, and troubleshoot permissions errors.. not "is this thing ever going to work" issues === estebian is now known as estebian_nuevo === estebian_nuevo is now known as nuevo === nuevo is now known as estebian === estebian is now known as titeres === titeres is now known as estebian_troll === estebian_troll is now known as estebian_troll^2 === estebian_troll^2 is now known as estebian_machote === estebian_machote is now known as estebian_testost === estebian_testost is now known as titiriestebian [04:10] ok i may have found a workaround [04:10] is there a way to stream jack from a windows machine? [04:11] Presonus_Probs: stream JACK? [04:11] jack is available for windows [04:11] though, i have not tried it [04:11] my presonus and firewire work on my windows machine, but I want to use ardour to record [04:11] can I send all channels through jack to ardour from win7? [04:12] i would just track in windows, and pull the files over into ardour === titiriestebian is now known as estebian [04:12] I need one computer in one room and one in the other, and I was hoping to mintor live with Jack [04:12] via ethernet [04:12] there is net jack [04:13] i dont know how JACK works in windows, but i used to slave software synths off on a machine running JACK === estebian is now known as TROLLebian [04:14] well my presonus desk has remote control, so I could use WINE theoretically to control it from my lounge if it was set up on the windows machine in the studio [04:14] you can use VNC.. or a really long USB cable, or ps2 [04:15] for 8 channels? I need to record drums [04:15] in not sure what you are asking [04:15] VNC will control a remote computer [04:15] i wouldnt send 8 channels of audio over a network [04:15] oops sorry I thought you said VLC for streaming audio [04:16] i would record in windows, and bring the files over [04:16] is there any way to monitor it live? SO I can have the drums playing in the studio and the band playing along with it through the headphones [04:17] there are lots of ways to monitor [04:17] before, and after the software [04:17] i monitor before as much as possible [04:18] cool and thatll work both ways between windows and ubuntu with Jack [04:18] or Net Jack [04:18] ive never used JACK in windows [04:18] awesome Im gonna give it a shot [04:18] i wouldnt personally send audio like that over netjack without gigabit lan [04:19] that can be arranged [04:19] assuming netjack works in windows [04:19] ive got a gigabit switch here [04:19] and the linux version can talk to the windows one [04:19] and the network can handle the traffic [04:20] i mean, im sure, given enough time, you can make it work [04:20] but, you might just want to track in windows, and plan for using linux next hardware purchase [04:20] you can pull the files over and mix in ardour [04:20] :D and enough people to spitball with :P I'd never even heard of half of this stuff before this morning [04:21] ubuntu virgin as of about 5 hours ago [04:21] well, just hold out for native ffado support [04:21] asking as many ubuntu and audio channels as I can [04:21] :) im used to workarounds haha damn you windows [04:21] i tracked in windows for a long time [04:22] its fun Presonus_Probs [04:22] :D I like tracking in windows, I just cant find a Jack equivalent where I can send audio between systems [04:23] I really thought ubuntu studio was my answer, it might still be [04:23] Presonus_Probs: ubuntustudio, ffado, nor JACK are the "problem" [04:23] the problem is the hardware support [04:23] you get hardware that is supported, and it'll all "just work" [04:24] Its the inputs that are the problem, if I can get Jack working I can use a couple of M Audio boxes in the lounge, and my presonus desk for the drums and vocal booth in the studio, and record it all to one place / monitor it from one place and record it all locally [04:25] Presonus_Probs: JACK is working fine.. [04:25] sorry I meant with Windows [04:25] Presonus_Probs: think also about how you would do that in windows [04:25] connect 3 machines and 3 different interfaces together [04:26] how would you do that in OSX? [04:26] linux is not magic [04:26] my presonus software runs fine on my windows box, and tracks fine too, but I need to monitor it from outside [04:27] netjack might let you connect a few things together like that, but i wouldnt expect it to have great latency with the USB devices in the mix [04:27] no usb [04:27] all firewire [04:27] Presonus_Probs: maudio ones? [04:27] still i know its abitious [04:27] apparently [04:27] Presonus_Probs: then, take a supported maudio firewire device and test that chipset [04:28] :) I would but I dont have it here its the bands gear [04:28] well, enjoy! [04:29] hope you can get that presonus working [04:29] its sweet gear i know [04:29] yep! Thanks heaps for all the troubleshooting [04:29] I really appreciate it [04:29] gonna keep this channel up and hopefully post if I get some results [04:29] Presonus_Probs: anytime! [04:30] Presonus_Probs: keep #opensourcemusicians up.. this channel is relatively dead [04:30] :P I didn't want to bother them until I had a firm grasp on what it was I was asking hehe [04:31] #lad seemed really interested ive got that channel up too [04:31] is there ffado support for your device.. all else it a waste.. that and fiding out if the FW chipset is a good one [04:32] Presonus_Probs: yeah, but you got that PPA suggestion from #lad, right? [04:32] the nautilus extension one? [04:32] nope [04:32] drupin shot me it here [04:32] cool... thats a waste of time [04:32] lol [04:32] :P [04:32] sorry drupin [04:32] sorry to drop it on ya drup haha [04:33] it could be for the purpose of collecting information [04:33] :P we're calling in all workarounds here :D [04:33] Presonus_Probs: im just saying that wont add support.. im sure drupin had a plan and that was part of it [04:33] its a clean install so im not afraid to try new things [04:33] havent done anything yet [04:33] apart from tests [04:33] pardon ... [04:33] and running jack as root [04:33] good.. use the live CD too. you can break it [04:34] Presonus_Probs: just run JACK as root for troubleshooting as well.. not all the time [04:34] i saw this #linuxmusicians no one there [04:36] Presonus_Probs: try sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) [04:36] after adding the als ppa i told before [04:36] ALSA [04:36] but the drivers arent going to come from alsa yet [04:37] woops [04:37] unless you are trying to add some alsa firewire support [04:37] which, is coming AFAIK.. but i dont think its working at all [04:37] ffado will be providing the support, if there is any [04:37] otherwise, jumping alsa versions is a good idea drupin [04:38] im gonna try it I scrolled all the way up but I lost your original post drupin [04:38] oh damn its open in my pms [04:38] oops [04:40] Firewire will only work with special configuration [04:41] Currently, firewire devices are not supported by alsa, and may only be used with jack using the ffado firewire driver. But, since we are now able to connect Pulseaudio to jack, using the pulseaudio to jack bridge, we can circumvent this problem. [04:41] stop every thing Presonus_Probs [04:41] try this [04:42] http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204#The_Pulse_Audio_to_Jack_Bridge_-_using_both_at_once [04:43] ok reading and writing slowly [04:46] but the pulse to JACK bridge is for *after* you have JACK running [04:46] that would be a decent way to get all the system sounds going though the firewire device.. assuming it can be supported by ffado [04:47] the ffado version is going to be the key... *if* it can be supported [04:50] so is FFADO the driver for the card or the desk? [04:54] Presonus_Probs: its what we have for firewire audio drivers [04:55] Presonus_Probs: the card is supported by the kernel [04:55] ffado will potentially support the audio device [04:55] Presonus_Probs: basically, if ffado doesnt support you device, and cant support it, it wont work [04:56] Presonus_Probs: thats why a definitive email from that ffado list would really save you some time [04:56] you can fiddle about with arch and add ppa's... but if ffado doesnt support it, it wont work [04:57] I havent figured out how to turn my chat logging on yet ill google the FFADO list again [04:58] Presonus_Probs: you really only need to remember that one thing.. ffado [04:59] you should confirm that that chipset will work with one of those other maudio firewire devices, assuming they are well supported [05:03] drafting up an email, sorry for my slow replies haha [05:05] take your time.. and remember, draft one up to presonus as well, and ask them to support the operating system you are using [05:05] ok... good luck again... im out... [06:42] :) Hey guys any idea if its possible to share the optical drive on the network? [06:42] to windows 7... [06:45] or do I need to make an iso of the disk and transfer it manually [06:45] -head desk- [06:47] reinstalled the firewire in the windows computer, running. switch back to onboard soundcard on ubuntu box, running. Went to install the proprietary presonus software and I don't have a dvd drive on my windows box because Im out of SATA inputs [07:59] Presonus_Probs: I haven't done much of sharing within networks, but how that works should be the same on all Ubuntu variants, so you might find some answers on other ubuntu channels [08:00] Presonus_Probs: Why not use a usb stick [08:00] ? [08:00] Er? [08:00] And if you need to run an image, just use one of those CD emulators [10:49] anyone know how to change the screensaver delay? [10:49] Ive googled it and I cant really find it [10:54] Presonus_Probs: You mean, how long it takes for it to start? [10:54] Should be in one of the system settings [10:57] Presonus_Probs: Menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Screensaver [10:58] The option "Blank After" Decides the idle time value before starting screensaver [11:01] thanks guys :) [11:02] Ive had a rough day with computers :) [11:02] ;) [17:42] hi [20:02] hi, there [20:03] i'm back [20:03] there is anyone here? [20:03] * holstein is here... and others... [20:06] i still have a problem with qjackctl [20:06] yesterday it worked without any problem [20:06] now it is not [20:06] why? [20:07] how can i fix this? [20:08] Berenice: what has changed? did you upgrade? change setttings? [20:08] !paste | Berenice [20:08] Berenice: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:08] the output of "messages" in the jack panel [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10 [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: control device hw:0 [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: control device hw:0 [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio0 error : Cannot allocate memory[0m [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Audio device hw:0 cannot be acquired...[0m [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Cannot initialize driver[0m [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: [1m[31mERROR: JackServer::Open() failed with -1[0m [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:29 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to open server[0m [20:12] Fri Sep 14 21:54:30 2012: Saving settings to "/home/johana/.config/jack/conf.xml" ... [20:12] 21:54:45.929 Non sono riuscito ad avviare JACK come client. - Operazione fallita. - Impossibile connettersi al server JACK. Controlla la finestra dei messaggi per maggiori informazioni. [20:12] Cannot connect to server socket err = File o directory non esistente [20:12] Cannot connect to server socket [20:12] jack server is not running or cannot be started [20:12] Berenice: when you get a chance.. review this link [20:12] !paste | Berenice [20:13] its not a big deal in here really, but in the busy channels, you dont want to spam with lots of lines pasted in like that [20:14] Berenice: i would just double check the device [20:14] ok, I'm sorry [20:14] Berenice: sometimes, if you have multiple alsa devices, the hardware id # can change between boots [20:15] holstein: ok, what you mean? [20:15] Audio device hw:0 cannot be acquired [20:15] could have been hw:0 last boot [20:16] sorry but I don't know too much this program [20:16] if you have multiple devices... sometimes i disable the internal card.. makes life easier [20:16] I only have internal card [20:17] Berenice: OK.. then just double check the device that JACK is using [20:18] or trying to use in this case [20:20] ok, how can I check the device? [20:21] Berenice: i would go in the GUI.. the jack window.. the panel where you set it up before? [20:21] under config.. the device settings [20:21] see that it is using the device you think it shoud be [20:21] see that it is set to "alsa" driver [20:21] just look at the settings [20:22] imagebin them if you want help interpretting them [20:24] i have driver ALSA [20:24] selected [20:24] then real time checked [20:26] are these settings correct? [20:28] Berenice: those few look good [20:30] it says: D-BUS: server jack cannot be started [20:31] then why? [20:31] Berenice: not sure.. thats what we are troubleshooting [20:31] Berenice: i would close everything, and make sure JACK is not running [20:31] maybe even sudo killall jack in a terminal [20:32] i would run gksudo qjackctl [20:32] i would try starting.. reporting errors here... in pastebin if they are verbose [20:35] I have try sudo killall jack in the terminal [20:35] but it says no process found [20:36] what is the pastebin? [20:36] Berenice: cool... so you know JACK is not running in the background [20:36] Berenice: at your leisure, check out [20:36] !paste | Berenice [20:36] Berenice: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:38] ok, I get it [20:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205624/ [20:41] this is what open qjackctl says [20:41] as i open it [20:43] Berenice: as root? [20:43] in the terminal? gksudo qjackctl ? [20:49] i don't understand [20:49] do i have to write it on the terminal? [20:50] Berenice: open a terminal and copypaste, or "write" or type this [20:50] gksudo qjackctl [20:50] try starting jack, report errors... [20:51] from the terminal? [20:51] Berenice: yup.. thats what i mean byt "open a terminal".. click on the terminal in the menu, or however you are comfortable starting a terminal session [20:52] then, input that text.. "gksudo qjackctl" and hit the enter key [20:53] ok, done [20:53] Berenice: report any errors you might have from staring jack as root [20:54] holstein: where do I have to report the errors, here or in the terminal? [20:55] Berenice: you can use the pastebin if the output qualifies [20:55] Berenice: somewhere where you can share it with me [20:56] holstein: a little strange think is happening right now [20:56] jack is working [20:57] and i don't know why? [20:57] Berenice: right.. thats what i need to know [20:57] so you have a permissions error [20:57] maybe you are running as a different user than you were yesterday.. anyways [20:57] no errors, it is running [20:57] stop JACK.. close jack... in the terminal run... [20:58] no, it is the same [20:58] i'm the unique user [20:58] how should I close jack? [20:59] Berenice: click the x in the corner [20:59] Berenice: in the terminal [20:59] sudo adduser yourusername [20:59] i'll be bak in a bit... [21:00] holstein: ok [21:00] Berenice: *dont* change a bunch of settings in JACK [21:00] JACK is fine [21:00] its a permissions issue with your user [21:01] it is? [21:02] Berenice: yes [21:02] Berenice: JACK runs fine as root [21:02] so dont break it.. just fix your user permissions [21:02] sudo adduser yourusername audio [21:02] logout and back in [21:04] ok [21:05] logout from the computer? [21:14]