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SkippersBossmotning, guys af got an anying issue. Lately i cannot maximize a window by clicking on the icon in the windows buttor area anymore. I have to cycle. This is probably a setting somewhere but WHERE ??09:44
baizonSkippersBoss: try to clear the .cache folder09:46
baizonand logout09:46
SkippersBossbaizon, thx did the trick. But what could have caused it09:53
baizonSkippersBoss: a bug i think :)09:54
SkippersBossok09:55
baizonyou can try to report it to the xfce team :)09:57
xubuntu916hello, anyone know how i can import my apple tine machine backup to xubuntu 12.410:32
TheSheepyou are joking, right?10:34
xubuntu916no10:34
xubuntu916i think is hard to migrate from imac10:34
xubuntu916to a pc10:35
TheSheepit's not possible to use a backup of one operating system in another10:35
v1adimirepic :)10:35
xubuntu916so i have to do all files one by one kinda ?10:35
koegsno progress :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/99257910:35
TheSheepthe systems are completeley different, all the system files and settings are totally different10:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 992579 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE4: Hotkey for "Maximize Window" ignored, Application Hotkeys delayed" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:35
TheSheepkoegs: try in a few months10:36
koegsit worked in 11.04, 11.10, but not 12.04 or 12.10 :(10:38
v1adimirat least i know now that i'm not crazy10:39
Artemis3oh there was a hotkey to maximize window? :310:43
koegsit was in the release-notes/faq for 12.04 :)10:43
koegsbut you were also able to define it yourself in previous versions10:44
Artemis3alt f10? seems to work for me ^^10:45
v1adimiryup10:46
xubuntu916oh in xubuntu 12.4 i don't see the zoom text in terminal10:47
xubuntu916how can i have a terminal with zooming10:47
xubuntu916?10:48
koegslol, Default value is ALT+F7, changed it to Super+UP, but the only thing working is ALT+F10 O.o10:49
v1adimiryou can increase the font in the preferences, if that's what you're looking for10:49
xubuntu916is not same as in ubuntu 10.4 with xfce ctrl + +10:50
knomexubuntu916, xfce4-terminal doesn't support zooming; try gnome-terminal10:50
xubuntu916i don't want to use any gnome stuff10:51
knomeyou are probably using gnome stuff anyway, since xfce/xubuntu partly needs to depend on that10:51
knomethere might be other terminals too that support zooming too10:52
xubuntu916i notice i have some gnome things10:52
xubuntu916is gtk 2 part of gnome ?10:52
Artemis3xfce has no gnome dependencies, xubuntu brings some.10:52
Artemis3not anymore, because gnome3 uses... gtk310:53
xubuntu916oh i c10:53
Artemis3gtk is not really part of gnome, but gnome depends on gtk10:54
Sysikoegs: super B has always worked for me10:56
xubuntu916i have a question but is might be off topic10:57
Artemis3there is an offtopic channel for that10:57
xubuntu916does dungeon of dredmore work with sound on wine steam for anyone?10:58
Artemis3and i think there is also a wine channel :310:58
xubuntu916i ask as i'm not sure if is off topic10:58
xubuntu916i might go there10:58
xubuntu916i want my game sound10:58
Artemis3haven't tried that game... skyrim works here10:58
xubuntu916i don't have power for skyrim but i have a ps3 waiting for it10:59
Artemis3runs perfect with a 460 and i511:00
Artemis3hmm and 8g of ram11:00
xubuntu916i have 4gb11:01
Artemis3should do11:01
Artemis3actually i have too much memory11:01
Artemis3mostly unused11:01
xubuntu916intel core 2 duo at 2.711:02
xubuntu916and no good 3d card11:02
Artemis3thats the problem11:02
Artemis3you need that11:02
xubuntu916i didn't buy the pc for games11:02
Artemis3get a 560 :)11:02
xubuntu916my intel is 63011:03
Artemis3you should... see, the game has some bugs, but thanks to ingame console, you can fix the problems.11:03
Artemis3its fine, you can play other games, but skyrim, use the pc, or you will get angry/pissed :311:05
xubuntu916i play dwarf fortress11:11
knome#xubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue the games discussion please11:11
xubuntu916simcity 4 , dungeons of dredmore and not sure what else11:11
xubuntu916oh sorry11:12
knomenp11:12
xubuntu916i didn'0t know it was over11:12
xubuntu583which grub version is xubuntu using ?12:24
baizonxubuntu583: what version?12:25
koegsxubuntu583: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/grub212:25
smartboyhwxubuntu583: Er which version?12:25
xubuntu583thx guys12:26
DenSeaCaTHi guys. Troubles with WinXP/Linux again14:33
DenSeaCaTYesterday i've accitentally formatted partitions with linux,and GRUB panicked.Then I've fixed it with boot-repair and xubuntu was back to life. But WinXP on same HDD didn't. What i should do now?14:39
DenSeaCaTI want both OS working.14:41
bazhangwhat version of xubuntu DenSeaCaT14:55
bazhangplease pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  DenSeaCaT14:55
bazhang!paste | DenSeaCaT14:56
ubottuDenSeaCaT: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:56
DenSeaCaTlast, downloaded yesterday, amd6414:56
bazhanglast meaning what? 12.04?14:56
DenSeaCaTYep14:57
bazhangok. please provide the pastebin14:57
GridCubeDenSeaCaT, hello :) do what bazhang is asking you to do, but also please pastebin the output of: sudo update-grub14:59
DenSeaCaThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1204922/14:59
DenSeaCaTI did update grub some mins ago15:00
GridCube:)15:00
bazhangDenSeaCaT, holding shift at boot, does that get you to the grub menu?15:03
DenSeaCaTbazhang for what?15:04
DenSeaCaTi dont know15:04
bazhangDenSeaCaT, to be able to select xp/ubuntu15:04
DenSeaCaTLet me explain situation. I have both Xubuntu/WinXP installed on same notebool,same HDD. Xubuntu boots fine, but when i'm selecting WinXP in grub menu - screen goes black and just minus sign blinking at top left corner. nothing happens15:06
holsteinDenSeaCaT: what was up with windows before you installed xubuntu? maybe windwos is broken?15:20
DenSeaCaTNope,it worked perfectly. NOT INSTALLING xubuntu broke it, but formattingg linux partitions from live-usb did(i wanted to reinstall xubuntu)15:22
holsteinmaybe you blew out something important by accident :/15:23
holsteinmight want to try some windows support avenues... maybe a "recovery install" or whatever that is called... you can always recover grub if the MBR gets blown out "fixing" windwos15:24
DenSeaCaT=(15:28
DenSeaCaTThat sh!t hppened right when black mesa soure released =(15:28
DenSeaCaTBud luck.15:29
DenSeaCaTI don't have disk with WinXp...Is the other way to fix it,using only xubuntu?15:30
bazhangto restore xp without an xp disk?15:31
holsteinyou can check the partition and see that things "seem" ok...15:31
bazhangsounds like you wrecked the xp install15:31
DenSeaCaTholstein how can i do this?16:24
holsteinDenSeaCaT: if you have a legal license, i would request a disc16:29
DenSeaCaTholstein no,unfortunately,i don't. I've bought used laptop...16:30
holsteinDenSeaCaT: sure.. and you should be entiled to a recovery disc from the manufacturer16:31
xubuntu367hi16:49
Marzata16:50
GridCubehi16:50
bluesabrehi16:51
Mathias16:53
GridCube!ot | ħ↑16:55
ubottuħ↑: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!16:55
DenSeaCaTholstein,sorry, but i cant, i bought laptop without any documents/labels on it. But i have fast internet connections, so, can i download and install some trial XP on USB to repair? (Pirate face)17:13
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holsteinDenSeaCaT: i would explore some windows support avenues17:17
DenSeaCaTholstein, I'm russian, duh. What you are talking about? ;) Official software support? Pff, I'm too away from big city with civilization. This is....SYBERIA!17:42
holsteinDenSeaCaT: there are windows IRC channels.. with windows users who migh tbe able to help you17:43
DenSeaCaTcan you give me link please>17:46
Pici##windows17:47
DenSeaCaTIs it official?17:47
Mathiasno17:48
DenSeaCaTThanks(pirateface)17:48
DenSeaCaTjoin ##windows17:48
holsteinDenSeaCaT: the "official" avenues of support are as i mentioned before.. contacting the manufacturer, or microsoft17:48
DenSeaCaTAttempt failed. That's sad.18:22
DenSeaCaTSo, this forcing me to torrent winxp iso =(18:23
Artemis3the best windows is no windows :)18:29
DenSeaCaT3d max working on windows only. 3d coat also.18:31
martinphonehow do I change chromium proxy settings? it says something of "man chromium-browser"19:05
GridCubemartinphone, set global variables19:06
GridCubehttp_proxy=http://path.to.proxy:port/ chromium-browser19:07
martinphoneGridCube, where? in the borswer or somewhere in xubuntu?19:07
GridCubein global19:07
GridCube!proxy19:07
ubottuSeveral Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak19:07
GridCubeno thats not ubottu19:07
GridCube!find proxy19:07
ubottuFound: haproxy, libproxy-cil-dev, libproxy-dev, libproxy0.4-cil, libproxy1, libproxy1-plugin-gsettings, libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, python-egenix-mx-base-dbg, python-egenix-mxproxy, python-egenix-mxproxy-doc (and 72 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=proxy&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all19:07
GridCube!search proxy19:08
ubottuFound: aptproxy, squid, proxy-#kubuntu-proxy-users*, proxy, apt-proxy, tor-#ubuntu-proxy-users*, proxies19:08
GridCubeno thats not either19:08
GridCubemartinphone, check global variables19:08
martinphoneGridCube, set global variables = use the command you pasted?19:09
martinphone[9420:9420:4432344414:ERROR:advanced_options_utils2_x11.cc(52)] Could not find XFCE network settings in $PATH19:14
martinphonethats for http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:8118/ chromium-browser19:14
GridCubemmm19:15
GridCubemartinphone, that command is just to set that global variable to that particular program19:16
GridCubemartinphone, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6943/how-can-a-proxy-be-set-for-the-whole-xubuntu-system19:20
drchmmm...Main Menu in 12.10-not-yet-beta :) doesn't appear to be functioning like that in 12.04...1) Some items that I uncheck do not get removed from the menu and when I look again they are still checked; and 2) When I try to add items (File Manager or Terminal) to the top-level xfce-menu, they are placed in Other.  Is this the way of the future or a temporary aberation?20:06
Picidrc: Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.20:08
pgib_Hello everyone. I'm trying to make a bootable USB drive in order to install Xubuntu on my friend's laptop.  I tried using usb-creator, but it always hangs around halfway through "copying files"  So, I'm trying to use unetbootin, but it doesn't provide an option for xubuntu-12.04, only up to 11.10.  When I tried to use i with 11.10 selected it resulted in media that didn't seem to boot.  Any suggestions?20:13
holsteinpgib_: i just point unetbootin to the iso i choose... xubuntu or whatever20:13
pgib_Oh crap! now I see, there is are radio buttons for choosing between two vastly different options20:14
drcpgib_: 1) Don't use the supplied option, find the iso directly20:14
drc2) dd also works20:14
holsteindrc: all the iso's are dd capable now right? all the live ones?20:15
drcAs far as I know all th 'buntu isos are dd friendly, other distros (bodhi come to mind), not so much.20:15
pgib_dd actually works? Interesting.. with all of these custom tools I sort of assumed that the usb device had some binary incompatibility WRT MBR, partition table, etc..20:16
drcpgib_: Works For Me (tm) :)20:16
pgib_well, it is done.  Time to test it.  Thanks20:17
pgib_well, darn.  I made sure every "USB *" device was selected in the BIOS and had highest priority, but no go.  I think I may just try the dd approach now.  Did you iso -> block device or iso -> partition, drc? I guess if partition, then a mbr needs to be copied too?20:24
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xubuntu083xenome20:24
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drcpgib_: sudo dd if=path-to-iso of=$DEVICE (for me is /dev/sdb)20:27
pgib_ok, that makes perfect sense20:27
drcworks every time, YMMV :)20:27
Unit193All ubuntu CDs, you can tell if they are compatible by doing  fdisk -l path/to/cd.iso20:28
DropDead_Hello Guys, I do have a Question and hopefully anyone of you could help me out ;)21:03
DropDead_My problem is, i've tried to install Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP G72 Notebook, but once i started the live cd and started the installation process, it shows my whole notebook harddrive as empty. Normally i am running windows 8 on it in 1 Partition, another one is just a Partition for Files and 1 Partition for the system reserved Files. The PartitionTable should be MBR, at least thats what Windows says :P My Notebook didn't came with Wi21:03
DropDead_be the problem, i don't think my notebook does support it. The Live CD Starts just fine, but only the Hard Drive shows as empty, i've already tried xubuntu 11.04 too to make sure it's not a version problem, but it doesn't work either :/ Hopefully anyone can help me out here21:05
echonizeIm not an expert, but my computer had same issue with Windows and problem vanished after i checked bios and fixed hdd mode.21:08
DropDead_ok thanks a lot so there was an hdd mode option in your bios? i am working at the notebook at the moment, so i will check it as soon as i can, but thats something i could try ;) i was having xubuntu some time ago already installed, but when i installed it, i was erasing everything, but it seems its not an xubuntu problem, mint was having the same issue21:10
echonizeI have just simple Hdd mode setting in bios, ACHI and Compatibility. For some reason Windows doesnt work with ACHI but All Ubuntus works with both. I dont know could that do the job for you but dont hurt to try.21:12
DropDead_ok thanks a lot, i will have a look if my bios does allow me to change that setting or if it does even exist :D21:14
DropDead_thanks echonize, i don't know what else could be the problem, cause normally it should at least recognize my 500 gb file partition with ntfs, because it doesn't have any system or boot flags.. i will look for the setting and if it is not there, i will be back in 10 minutes ;)21:15
echonizeHmm by searching with google i found few similar problems to yours. I suggest you try that too and see if you can find any solutions.21:16
DropDead_i've already tried searching for it, maybe i haven't used the right keywords.. because i haven't found one person with the same problem, there were some guides to show you how to install it next to windows 8 but there was no differences to dual boot installation of xubuntu to windows 7 or xp, their guides always have shown the ntfs partitions, i will at first try the bios setting method21:18
DropDead_Ok echonize, i am back, sadly i have to hate my notebooks bios because i only have 5 options to change and thats it, mainly the boot order, the passwords for the bios and virtualization technology and thats it21:38
DropDead_no AHCI or HDD Settings21:38
echonizeOh. Well i can try to search something from web, but as i said before im not an expert, but i know it aint cool when that sort of problems occur either. :)21:41
echonizeBtw do you have Windows disk? If so, does it boot and show your hdd? If not did you see any disk management tool in bios, like hard dist test?21:44
echonize*hard disk. :)21:44
DropDead_i you have found anything relevant to my problem it would be great if you could send me a link or something, because i really don't know what to do next, i realized i was hating the bios before when i've tried to install ubuntu before after i opened it :P but it is also the latest bios so there is no update, but thats a crappy bios if i can't even change that stuff :D i do have a windows disk and it does show my hard drives, becau21:45
DropDead_and no there is no disk test, but i could try an disk check tool under linux live cd or directly under windows to see if there are some errors21:45
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DropDead_Hey echonize, i now scanned the drive for erros, but it found nothing, so that seems to not be a solution either :/ i can't believe that it is so hard to find a solution, maybe i somehow have to check if linux does support my partitiontable? but it should support MBR :D22:45
echonizeI found problems about hdd's generally in G72's, but not much like your, that Win does show hardware properly and can install os, but Xubuntu cant.22:48
DropDead_thats kind of ... unconvinient :D i am also trying to troubleshoot the problem, but i think if i could change some settings in bios it could work, but there is nothing i could change in there :/ andit couldn't be a linux driver issue either right? xubuntu should also work with MBR and GUID right?22:52
cgtdkHow to configure a compose button?23:02
cgtdknvm, I think I've finally found it23:04
DropDead_Is there any Linux Tool that can read the partition table and show the partitions? i was thinking about something like gparted or a simple command line tool ;) maybe i can find the error in there23:13

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