[09:44] <SkippersBoss> motning, guys af got an anying issue. Lately i cannot maximize a window by clicking on the icon in the windows buttor area anymore. I have to cycle. This is probably a setting somewhere but WHERE ??
[09:46] <baizon> SkippersBoss: try to clear the .cache folder
[09:46] <baizon> and logout
[09:53] <SkippersBoss> baizon, thx did the trick. But what could have caused it
[09:54] <baizon> SkippersBoss: a bug i think :)
[09:55] <SkippersBoss> ok
[09:57] <baizon> you can try to report it to the xfce team :)
[10:32] <xubuntu916> hello, anyone know how i can import my apple tine machine backup to xubuntu 12.4
[10:34] <TheSheep> you are joking, right?
[10:34] <xubuntu916> no
[10:34] <xubuntu916> i think is hard to migrate from imac
[10:35] <xubuntu916> to a pc
[10:35] <TheSheep> it's not possible to use a backup of one operating system in another
[10:35] <v1adimir> epic :)
[10:35] <xubuntu916> so i have to do all files one by one kinda ?
[10:35] <koegs> no progress :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/992579
[10:35] <TheSheep> the systems are completeley different, all the system files and settings are totally different
[10:36] <TheSheep> koegs: try in a few months
[10:38] <koegs> it worked in 11.04, 11.10, but not 12.04 or 12.10 :(
[10:39] <v1adimir> at least i know now that i'm not crazy
[10:43] <Artemis3> oh there was a hotkey to maximize window? :3
[10:43] <koegs> it was in the release-notes/faq for 12.04 :)
[10:44] <koegs> but you were also able to define it yourself in previous versions
[10:45] <Artemis3> alt f10? seems to work for me ^^
[10:46] <v1adimir> yup
[10:47] <xubuntu916> oh in xubuntu 12.4 i don't see the zoom text in terminal
[10:47] <xubuntu916> how can i have a terminal with zooming
[10:48] <xubuntu916> ?
[10:49] <koegs> lol, Default value is ALT+F7, changed it to Super+UP, but the only thing working is ALT+F10 O.o
[10:49] <v1adimir> you can increase the font in the preferences, if that's what you're looking for
[10:50] <xubuntu916> is not same as in ubuntu 10.4 with xfce ctrl + +
[10:50] <knome> xubuntu916, xfce4-terminal doesn't support zooming; try gnome-terminal
[10:51] <xubuntu916> i don't want to use any gnome stuff
[10:51] <knome> you are probably using gnome stuff anyway, since xfce/xubuntu partly needs to depend on that
[10:52] <knome> there might be other terminals too that support zooming too
[10:52] <xubuntu916> i notice i have some gnome things
[10:52] <xubuntu916> is gtk 2 part of gnome ?
[10:52] <Artemis3> xfce has no gnome dependencies, xubuntu brings some.
[10:53] <Artemis3> not anymore, because gnome3 uses... gtk3
[10:53] <xubuntu916> oh i c
[10:54] <Artemis3> gtk is not really part of gnome, but gnome depends on gtk
[10:56] <Sysi> koegs: super B has always worked for me
[10:57] <xubuntu916> i have a question but is might be off topic
[10:57] <Artemis3> there is an offtopic channel for that
[10:58] <xubuntu916> does dungeon of dredmore work with sound on wine steam for anyone?
[10:58] <Artemis3> and i think there is also a wine channel :3
[10:58] <xubuntu916> i ask as i'm not sure if is off topic
[10:58] <xubuntu916> i might go there
[10:58] <xubuntu916> i want my game sound
[10:58] <Artemis3> haven't tried that game... skyrim works here
[10:59] <xubuntu916> i don't have power for skyrim but i have a ps3 waiting for it
[11:00] <Artemis3> runs perfect with a 460 and i5
[11:00] <Artemis3> hmm and 8g of ram
[11:01] <xubuntu916> i have 4gb
[11:01] <Artemis3> should do
[11:01] <Artemis3> actually i have too much memory
[11:01] <Artemis3> mostly unused
[11:02] <xubuntu916> intel core 2 duo at 2.7
[11:02] <xubuntu916> and no good 3d card
[11:02] <Artemis3> thats the problem
[11:02] <Artemis3> you need that
[11:02] <xubuntu916> i didn't buy the pc for games
[11:02] <Artemis3> get a 560 :)
[11:03] <xubuntu916> my intel is 630
[11:03] <Artemis3> you should... see, the game has some bugs, but thanks to ingame console, you can fix the problems.
[11:05] <Artemis3> its fine, you can play other games, but skyrim, use the pc, or you will get angry/pissed :3
[11:11] <xubuntu916> i play dwarf fortress
[11:11] <knome> #xubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue the games discussion please
[11:11] <xubuntu916> simcity 4 , dungeons of dredmore and not sure what else
[11:12] <xubuntu916> oh sorry
[11:12] <knome> np
[11:12] <xubuntu916> i didn'0t know it was over
[12:24] <xubuntu583> which grub version is xubuntu using ?
[12:25] <baizon> xubuntu583: what version?
[12:25] <koegs> xubuntu583: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/grub2
[12:25] <smartboyhw> xubuntu583: Er which version?
[12:26] <xubuntu583> thx guys
[14:33] <DenSeaCaT> Hi guys. Troubles with WinXP/Linux again
[14:39] <DenSeaCaT> Yesterday i've accitentally formatted partitions with linux,and GRUB panicked.Then I've fixed it with boot-repair and xubuntu was back to life. But WinXP on same HDD didn't. What i should do now?
[14:41] <DenSeaCaT> I want both OS working.
[14:55] <bazhang> what version of xubuntu DenSeaCaT
[14:55] <bazhang> please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  DenSeaCaT
[14:56] <bazhang> !paste | DenSeaCaT
[14:56] <DenSeaCaT> last, downloaded yesterday, amd64
[14:56] <bazhang> last meaning what? 12.04?
[14:57] <DenSeaCaT> Yep
[14:57] <bazhang> ok. please provide the pastebin
[14:59] <GridCube> DenSeaCaT, hello :) do what bazhang is asking you to do, but also please pastebin the output of: sudo update-grub
[14:59] <DenSeaCaT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1204922/
[15:00] <DenSeaCaT> I did update grub some mins ago
[15:00] <GridCube> :)
[15:03] <bazhang> DenSeaCaT, holding shift at boot, does that get you to the grub menu?
[15:04] <DenSeaCaT> bazhang for what?
[15:04] <DenSeaCaT> i dont know
[15:04] <bazhang> DenSeaCaT, to be able to select xp/ubuntu
[15:06] <DenSeaCaT> Let me explain situation. I have both Xubuntu/WinXP installed on same notebool,same HDD. Xubuntu boots fine, but when i'm selecting WinXP in grub menu - screen goes black and just minus sign blinking at top left corner. nothing happens
[15:20] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: what was up with windows before you installed xubuntu? maybe windwos is broken?
[15:22] <DenSeaCaT> Nope,it worked perfectly. NOT INSTALLING xubuntu broke it, but formattingg linux partitions from live-usb did(i wanted to reinstall xubuntu)
[15:23] <holstein> maybe you blew out something important by accident :/
[15:24] <holstein> might want to try some windows support avenues... maybe a "recovery install" or whatever that is called... you can always recover grub if the MBR gets blown out "fixing" windwos
[15:28] <DenSeaCaT> =(
[15:28] <DenSeaCaT> That sh!t hppened right when black mesa soure released =(
[15:29] <DenSeaCaT> Bud luck.
[15:30] <DenSeaCaT> I don't have disk with WinXp...Is the other way to fix it,using only xubuntu?
[15:31] <bazhang> to restore xp without an xp disk?
[15:31] <holstein> you can check the partition and see that things "seem" ok...
[15:31] <bazhang> sounds like you wrecked the xp install
[16:24] <DenSeaCaT> holstein how can i do this?
[16:29] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: if you have a legal license, i would request a disc
[16:30] <DenSeaCaT> holstein no,unfortunately,i don't. I've bought used laptop...
[16:31] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: sure.. and you should be entiled to a recovery disc from the manufacturer
[16:49] <xubuntu367> hi
[16:50] <Marzata> hæ
[16:50] <GridCube> hi
[16:51] <bluesabre> hi
[16:53] <Mathias> hø
[16:55] <GridCube> !ot | ħ↑
[17:13] <DenSeaCaT> holstein,sorry, but i cant, i bought laptop without any documents/labels on it. But i have fast internet connections, so, can i download and install some trial XP on USB to repair? (Pirate face)
[17:17] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: i would explore some windows support avenues
[17:42] <DenSeaCaT> holstein, I'm russian, duh. What you are talking about? ;) Official software support? Pff, I'm too away from big city with civilization. This is....SYBERIA!
[17:43] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: there are windows IRC channels.. with windows users who migh tbe able to help you
[17:46] <DenSeaCaT> can you give me link please>
[17:47] <Pici> ##windows
[17:47] <DenSeaCaT> Is it official?
[17:48] <Mathias> no
[17:48] <DenSeaCaT> Thanks(pirateface)
[17:48] <DenSeaCaT> join ##windows
[17:48] <holstein> DenSeaCaT: the "official" avenues of support are as i mentioned before.. contacting the manufacturer, or microsoft
[18:22] <DenSeaCaT> Attempt failed. That's sad.
[18:23] <DenSeaCaT> So, this forcing me to torrent winxp iso =(
[18:29] <Artemis3> the best windows is no windows :)
[18:31] <DenSeaCaT> 3d max working on windows only. 3d coat also.
[19:05] <martinphone> how do I change chromium proxy settings? it says something of "man chromium-browser"
[19:06] <GridCube> martinphone, set global variables
[19:07] <GridCube> http_proxy=http://path.to.proxy:port/ chromium-browser
[19:07] <martinphone> GridCube, where? in the borswer or somewhere in xubuntu?
[19:07] <GridCube> in global
[19:07] <GridCube> !proxy
[19:07] <GridCube> no thats not ubottu
[19:07] <GridCube> !find proxy
[19:08] <GridCube> !search proxy
[19:08] <GridCube> no thats not either
[19:08] <GridCube> martinphone, check global variables
[19:09] <martinphone> GridCube, set global variables = use the command you pasted?
[19:14] <martinphone> [9420:9420:4432344414:ERROR:advanced_options_utils2_x11.cc(52)] Could not find XFCE network settings in $PATH
[19:14] <martinphone> thats for http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:8118/ chromium-browser
[19:15] <GridCube> mmm
[19:16] <GridCube> martinphone, that command is just to set that global variable to that particular program
[19:20] <GridCube> martinphone, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6943/how-can-a-proxy-be-set-for-the-whole-xubuntu-system
[20:06] <drc> hmmm...Main Menu in 12.10-not-yet-beta :) doesn't appear to be functioning like that in 12.04...1) Some items that I uncheck do not get removed from the menu and when I look again they are still checked; and 2) When I try to add items (File Manager or Terminal) to the top-level xfce-menu, they are placed in Other.  Is this the way of the future or a temporary aberation?
[20:08] <Pici> drc: Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:13] <pgib_> Hello everyone. I'm trying to make a bootable USB drive in order to install Xubuntu on my friend's laptop.  I tried using usb-creator, but it always hangs around halfway through "copying files"  So, I'm trying to use unetbootin, but it doesn't provide an option for xubuntu-12.04, only up to 11.10.  When I tried to use i with 11.10 selected it resulted in media that didn't seem to boot.  Any suggestions?
[20:13] <holstein> pgib_: i just point unetbootin to the iso i choose... xubuntu or whatever
[20:14] <pgib_> Oh crap! now I see, there is are radio buttons for choosing between two vastly different options
[20:14] <drc> pgib_: 1) Don't use the supplied option, find the iso directly
[20:14] <drc> 2) dd also works
[20:15] <holstein> drc: all the iso's are dd capable now right? all the live ones?
[20:15] <drc> As far as I know all th 'buntu isos are dd friendly, other distros (bodhi come to mind), not so much.
[20:16] <pgib_> dd actually works? Interesting.. with all of these custom tools I sort of assumed that the usb device had some binary incompatibility WRT MBR, partition table, etc..
[20:16] <drc> pgib_: Works For Me (tm) :)
[20:17] <pgib_> well, it is done.  Time to test it.  Thanks
[20:24] <pgib_> well, darn.  I made sure every "USB *" device was selected in the BIOS and had highest priority, but no go.  I think I may just try the dd approach now.  Did you iso -> block device or iso -> partition, drc? I guess if partition, then a mbr needs to be copied too?
[20:24] <xubuntu083> xenome
[20:27] <drc> pgib_: sudo dd if=path-to-iso of=$DEVICE (for me is /dev/sdb)
[20:27] <pgib_> ok, that makes perfect sense
[20:27] <drc> works every time, YMMV :)
[20:28] <Unit193> All ubuntu CDs, you can tell if they are compatible by doing  fdisk -l path/to/cd.iso
[21:03] <DropDead_> Hello Guys, I do have a Question and hopefully anyone of you could help me out ;)
[21:03] <DropDead_> My problem is, i've tried to install Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP G72 Notebook, but once i started the live cd and started the installation process, it shows my whole notebook harddrive as empty. Normally i am running windows 8 on it in 1 Partition, another one is just a Partition for Files and 1 Partition for the system reserved Files. The PartitionTable should be MBR, at least thats what Windows says :P My Notebook didn't came with Wi
[21:05] <DropDead_> be the problem, i don't think my notebook does support it. The Live CD Starts just fine, but only the Hard Drive shows as empty, i've already tried xubuntu 11.04 too to make sure it's not a version problem, but it doesn't work either :/ Hopefully anyone can help me out here
[21:08] <echonize> Im not an expert, but my computer had same issue with Windows and problem vanished after i checked bios and fixed hdd mode.
[21:10] <DropDead_> ok thanks a lot so there was an hdd mode option in your bios? i am working at the notebook at the moment, so i will check it as soon as i can, but thats something i could try ;) i was having xubuntu some time ago already installed, but when i installed it, i was erasing everything, but it seems its not an xubuntu problem, mint was having the same issue
[21:12] <echonize> I have just simple Hdd mode setting in bios, ACHI and Compatibility. For some reason Windows doesnt work with ACHI but All Ubuntus works with both. I dont know could that do the job for you but dont hurt to try.
[21:14] <DropDead_> ok thanks a lot, i will have a look if my bios does allow me to change that setting or if it does even exist :D
[21:15] <DropDead_> thanks echonize, i don't know what else could be the problem, cause normally it should at least recognize my 500 gb file partition with ntfs, because it doesn't have any system or boot flags.. i will look for the setting and if it is not there, i will be back in 10 minutes ;)
[21:16] <echonize> Hmm by searching with google i found few similar problems to yours. I suggest you try that too and see if you can find any solutions.
[21:18] <DropDead_> i've already tried searching for it, maybe i haven't used the right keywords.. because i haven't found one person with the same problem, there were some guides to show you how to install it next to windows 8 but there was no differences to dual boot installation of xubuntu to windows 7 or xp, their guides always have shown the ntfs partitions, i will at first try the bios setting method
[21:38] <DropDead_> Ok echonize, i am back, sadly i have to hate my notebooks bios because i only have 5 options to change and thats it, mainly the boot order, the passwords for the bios and virtualization technology and thats it
[21:38] <DropDead_> no AHCI or HDD Settings
[21:41] <echonize> Oh. Well i can try to search something from web, but as i said before im not an expert, but i know it aint cool when that sort of problems occur either. :)
[21:44] <echonize> Btw do you have Windows disk? If so, does it boot and show your hdd? If not did you see any disk management tool in bios, like hard dist test?
[21:44] <echonize> *hard disk. :)
[21:45] <DropDead_> i you have found anything relevant to my problem it would be great if you could send me a link or something, because i really don't know what to do next, i realized i was hating the bios before when i've tried to install ubuntu before after i opened it :P but it is also the latest bios so there is no update, but thats a crappy bios if i can't even change that stuff :D i do have a windows disk and it does show my hard drives, becau
[21:45] <DropDead_> and no there is no disk test, but i could try an disk check tool under linux live cd or directly under windows to see if there are some errors
[22:45] <DropDead_> Hey echonize, i now scanned the drive for erros, but it found nothing, so that seems to not be a solution either :/ i can't believe that it is so hard to find a solution, maybe i somehow have to check if linux does support my partitiontable? but it should support MBR :D
[22:48] <echonize> I found problems about hdd's generally in G72's, but not much like your, that Win does show hardware properly and can install os, but Xubuntu cant.
[22:52] <DropDead_> thats kind of ... unconvinient :D i am also trying to troubleshoot the problem, but i think if i could change some settings in bios it could work, but there is nothing i could change in there :/ andit couldn't be a linux driver issue either right? xubuntu should also work with MBR and GUID right?
[23:02] <cgtdk> How to configure a compose button?
[23:04] <cgtdk> nvm, I think I've finally found it
[23:13] <DropDead_> Is there any Linux Tool that can read the partition table and show the partitions? i was thinking about something like gparted or a simple command line tool ;) maybe i can find the error in there