[02:55] <ScottK> debfx: Can you go through and very the fixes you included with 4.8.5 for library file overwrite issues over the weekend, so 4.8.5 can go to -updates on Monday?
[06:48] <mah454> Hello 
[06:48] <mah454> I want to change default clock format to jalali calendar . 
[06:48] <mah454> How can do this ?
[07:37] <debfx> ScottK: I don't think I can verify bugs when I'm the uploader
[08:07] <apachelogger> mah454: iff one installs with a language/locale that is supposed to happen automatically
[08:08] <apachelogger> if this is not the case the setting would be in systemsettings' locale configuration
[08:16]  * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger
[08:17]  * apachelogger leaves :P
[08:18] <shadeslayer> aw, don't be like that now
[08:22] <mah454> apachelogger: i need change it for all new users 
[08:23] <mah454> chnage default calendar format to jalali for all new users 
[08:23] <mah454> how can do this ?
[09:34] <mah454> this script is true ? clock.calendarType("jalali");
[09:35] <mah454> I want add this to DefaultLayout.js in KDE templates ...
[09:37] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1051194] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: nicht vollständig gelesen ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051194 (by bssmusic)
[10:14] <shadeslayer> mah454: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js
[10:14] <shadeslayer> read that
[10:14] <mah454> shadeslayer: I want change default calendar for all users to Jalali 
[10:15] <mah454> How can do this ?
[10:15] <shadeslayer> should be doable using plasma desktop scripting
[10:15] <shadeslayer> read the file I just pointed out
[10:15] <shadeslayer> then create something like 01-my-defaults.js
[10:20] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.9.1 packages in staging : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[10:20] <shadeslayer> My upgrade from ninjas went fine last night, so let me know if you have issues
[10:22] <mah454> KDE 4.9 stored in kubuntu-update repository ?
[10:23] <shadeslayer> nope, I've put it in staging atm
[10:24] <shadeslayer> I'll copy it this evening
[10:24] <shadeslayer> ( to kubuntu backports )
[11:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: calendar has nothing to do with plasma
[11:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I thought he was talking about the plasma widget calendar
[11:14] <apachelogger> that also obeys klocale I should hope
[11:15] <apachelogger> mah454: echo $LANG
[11:15] <mah454> apachelogger: en_US.UTF-8
[11:16] <apachelogger> is that intended?
[11:25] <apachelogger> great, now I don't see the painting delay from yesterday in ubiquity anymore
[11:25] <apachelogger> hooray -.-
[11:29] <shadeslayer> dpkg-source: info: applying bypass-braindead-buildsystem
[11:29] <shadeslayer> rofl
[11:31] <mparillo> shadeslayer: When you wrote that the KDE SC 4.9.1 packages are in staging, does that mean you would like somebody to test applying them? I just installed a 10.4.1 virtualized image just in case.
[11:31] <shadeslayer> mparillo: yus :)
[11:31] <shadeslayer> mparillo: see https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[11:33] <mparillo> so I need to add a new repository to Muon?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> temporarily, yes
[11:36] <mparillo> I was going to add under Other Software ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging
[11:36] <mparillo> But it asks for something like deb http://...
[11:37] <shadeslayer> mparillo: use : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu precise main 
[11:37] <mparillo> So, I use:
[11:37] <mparillo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu precise main 
[11:37] <mparillo> ?
[11:37] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:37] <shadeslayer> I just do add-apt-repository via command line
[11:37] <shadeslayer> that's the easiest way
[11:39] <mparillo> So, now I have done it, and Muon shows a TON of Not Installed packages.
[11:39] <shadeslayer> aye, mark all of them for a upgrade
[11:39] <yofel> hm, software-properties *should* support ppa: syntax - or that simply isn't implemented in the KDE one (which sounds likely)
[11:39] <yofel> also, please make sure you disable the PPA again after installing the packages
[11:40] <shadeslayer> ^ that's why I said temporarily ;)
[11:40] <yofel> ah right :)
[11:40] <mparillo> Hmm, there is not the normal mark for upgrades checkbox.
[11:40] <yofel> check for updates first
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <yofel> hi BluesKaj
[11:41] <BluesKaj> hey yofel
[11:43] <shadeslayer> mparillo: yofel ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa worked for me
[11:45] <yofel> hm, someone forgot to take calligra out of the ISO's - with wallpapers and libreoffice added we've hit the size limit
[12:01] <mparillo> Shadeslayer: Hmmm, it did not say re-start required, but I will try anyway.
[12:05] <shadeslayer> wut
[12:05] <shadeslayer> why would you restart :P
[12:10] <apachelogger> no xnox :(
[12:12] <mparillo> shadeslayer: After a re-bot of my VM, opening Dolphin, about KDE, I get: KDE - Be Free!
[12:12] <mparillo> Platform Version 4.9.1
[12:12] <mparillo> I call that a successful test case execution!
[12:13] <mparillo> s /re-bot/re-boot/
[12:14] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:14] <shadeslayer> alright then, I'll copy it to backports
[12:15] <shadeslayer> mparillo: fwiw you can just relogin to get the new KDE
[12:15] <shadeslayer> no need to reboot
[12:16] <shadeslayer> mparillo: I believe you have a release announcement ready somewhere?
[12:20] <shadeslayer> alrighty, debs copied
[12:26] <shadeslayer> !find stylerc
[12:34] <mparillo> shadeslayer: I do. It is written, but not published. I do not know if Riddell has reviewed it yet.
[12:35] <shadeslayer> mparillo: please add the information about backported packages as wel
[12:35] <shadeslayer> *well
[12:45] <mparillo> shadeslayer: I published the news item. It is the lead news item on http://www.kubuntu.org/
[12:46] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[13:09] <tsimpson> anyone can update a news item: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491 <- the link to "KDE SC 4.9.1" has an extraneous double-quote one the end of the link
[13:25] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: sec
[13:25] <ScottK> debfx: You can.
[13:25] <ScottK> The only thing you can't do if you're the uploader is approve/accept the upload.
[13:26] <ScottK> (which only affects SRU team members)
[13:27] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: fixed
[13:28] <tsimpson> thanks
[13:35] <debfx> ScottK: that seems a bit pointless to me since uploading should already imply that it's tested by the one who prepared the package
[13:36] <ScottK> Right, but you would have tested before the upload.  The goal is to test the actual packages in the archive in case something went astray.
[13:36] <ScottK> We're relying on the fact that the SRU team reviews the diff for each upload.
[13:37] <ScottK> For hardware specific stuff we might want more testing, but for something simple like thses, I think it's fine.
[13:39] <ScottK> It would be nice if someone could verify the fixes for phonon-backend-gstreamer too.
[13:48] <debfx> ok, I hope I got all file overwrite bugs
[13:56] <BluesKaj> ScottK, which fixes for phonon-backend-gstreamer ...I've been using the vlc backend 
[13:58] <apachelogger> oh actually
[13:59] <apachelogger> tsdgeos may want to verify one of them
[13:59] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/+bug/1028903/comments/1
[14:02] <BluesKaj> ok , thanks apachelogger
[14:23] <Sentynel> hi folks, looks like there's a minor packaging error with today's 12.04 kubuntu-backports kde update - the kopete package refuses to install due to a conflict with kopete-gcall over /usr/bin/googletalk-call. removing the kopete-gcall package and reinstalling kopete seems to fix things
[14:27] <mparillo> tsimpson shadeslayer sorry about that extra double quote. Innacuarate copying and pasting, I bet.
[14:28] <shadeslayer> mparillo: np
[16:18] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Is the kopete-gcall issue Sentynel mentioned from your update?
[16:18] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[16:18] <shadeslayer> huh? where?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:19]  * shadeslayer looks
[16:20] <Sentynel> kopete-gcall is a really old package apparently, and should have been long gone
[16:20] <shadeslayer> aye
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I can't find it in precise :)
[16:21] <Sentynel> http://pastebin.com/AHgzTaRK here's the exact error
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I did a clean install on my system and ugprade from whaterver was on 12.04.1 to 4.9.1 .. no issues
[16:21] <shadeslayer> 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1
[16:21] <shadeslayer> gosh
[16:22] <Sentynel> yeah, I dunno how the heck that was still there
[16:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If it's an old package, just add conflicts/breaks.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah, that's what I was thinking
[16:22] <ScottK> Obviously if you don't have the old package installed, you won't get the error.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yep ... 
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: should I also add it to quantal packages?
[16:24] <ScottK> It went away after 4.6.
[16:24] <ScottK> So we should add it in precise and leave quantal alone.
[16:24] <shadeslayer> alright
[16:24] <ScottK> Sentynel: Would you please file a bug.
[16:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Would you please prepare an update to the pending 4.8.5 SRU for kdenetworking that fixes it and upload it.  I can accept it then.
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sure
[16:25] <shadeslayer> give me a couple of minutes ....
[16:25] <ScottK> Thanks.  Ping me when it's uploaded.
[16:29] <Sentynel> ScottK: sure, where?
[16:29] <ScottK> bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetworking
[16:30] <ScottK> Or not
[16:31] <Sentynel> it's kdenetwork
[16:32] <ScottK> Yeah
[16:32] <ScottK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork
[16:33] <Sentynel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/1051333
[16:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^
[16:39] <shadeslayer> aye, I'll get to it right after dinner
[16:42] <ScottK> I updated where it was targeted and assigned it to you.
[16:42] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:59] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uploaded
[16:59] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[17:01] <shadeslayer> Sentynel: thanks for pointing that out :)
[17:03] <Sentynel> no worries
[17:53] <bambee> Hi, is it possible to disable the check "scanning for Btrfs filesystems" at bootup ? it's very slow and I have not btrfs partitions...
[17:54] <yofel> bambee: set check pass to 0 in fstab
[17:54] <yofel> as of quantal fsck.btrfs is a noop at boot
[17:55] <bambee> strange :\
[17:55] <yofel> which release are you on?
[17:55] <bambee> I use the development branch
[17:55] <bambee> so quantal
[17:55] <bambee> and it's up to date
[17:55] <yofel> hm... it shouldn't be slow there...
[17:56] <yofel> use the fstab setting then
[17:57] <bambee> yofel: the boot takes... 45s - 1 min... and "scanning for btrfs filesystems" takes... 30s...
[17:58] <yofel> hm
[17:58] <yofel> wait
[17:58] <bambee> on precise the boot was really fast
[17:58] <yofel> not sure why the *scan* would take so long unless you have a weird disk setup. #btrfs might know something
[17:59] <yofel> sorry, have to go now, bbl
[18:01] <bambee> np
[18:01] <bambee> thanks for your help
[18:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: The last version of kopete-gcall in the archive was  4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1, so your versioning is incorrect.  Since we want the package removed, just drop the version and re-upload.
[18:21] <shadeslayer> k
[18:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[18:32] <ScottK> Looking
[18:34] <ScottK> Shouldn't that be Conflicts/Replaces?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> you said Conflicts/Breaks earlier ;)
[18:37] <shadeslayer> Though since we declare Conflicts, I believe dpkg will first remove kopete-gcall
[18:37] <shadeslayer> which in turn will allow kopete to be unpacked without issues
[18:37] <ScottK> Please don't assume I know what I'm talking about.
[18:37] <ScottK> In the good old days (pre-Breaks) it would have been Conflicts/Replaces.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:38] <ScottK> I think this is one of the situations where you still want Conflicts.
[18:38] <ScottK> Since you want the package to go away entirely.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Aye
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: long day ? :P
[18:39] <ScottK> Sorry for the confusion.
[18:39] <ScottK> Long week.  Day will be a lot longer before it's done.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ah .. :)
[18:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uh, rejected again?
[18:43] <ScottK> Didn't we decide it was wrong?
[18:44] <ScottK> Because you made the mistake of listening to me.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> wait, I believe Conflicts removes kopete-gcall, so why the need to add Replaces?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> since the package will have been already removed, there's no file that kopete will be conflicting with
[18:45] <ScottK> No.
[18:46] <ScottK> Conflicts just says they can't both be installed at the same time.
[18:46] <ScottK> It's the Replaces that tells dpkg to resolve the conflict by removing kopete-gcall.
[18:46] <shadeslayer> ahhhh
[18:46] <ScottK> A bare conflicts will just cause one package to fail to install/upgrade.
[18:46]  * shadeslayer read the docs incorrectly
[18:48] <shadeslayer> gosh :P
[18:49] <shadeslayer> uploaded again
[18:51]  * ScottK looks again.
[18:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Accepted.  Thanks.
[18:54] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[18:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Don't forget to fix your PPA packages too.
[18:54]  * shadeslayer goes back to splitting his sources
[18:54] <shadeslayer> ScottK: already uploading
[18:54] <ScottK> Great.
[18:59] <Riddell> bonsoir
[19:00] <shadeslayer> ohai Riddell
[19:00] <Riddell> what's new?
[19:01] <ScottK> Riddell: The fixed LibreOffice is building, so I went ahead and uploaded the new kubuntu-meta that reflects the seed changes from the KC meeting.
[19:01] <ScottK> Last night's images were insanely large because (I think) they had both LO and all of Calligra on them.
[19:02] <ScottK> I may have powerpc hardware soon, so I might be able to start testing that.  Not sure for Beta 2, but almost certainly before release.
[19:06] <shadeslayer> trying to figure out why plasma doesn't read the proper configs that I set :P
[19:07] <Riddell> ScottK: you're getting an old mac?  or some obscure new thing?
[19:07] <ScottK> Old Mac.
[19:08] <ScottK> Circa 2005.
[19:59] <mparillo> shadeslayer: The KDE SCE 4.9.1 PPA for 10.4.x does *NOT* upgrade rekonq, right? I am still at rekonq
[19:59] <mparillo> Version 0.9.1. That is working as designed?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:59] <mparillo> s/10.4/12.04/
[19:59] <kubotu> mparillo: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:59] <shadeslayer> should not upgrade rekonq
[19:59] <shadeslayer> however I see 1.0 in backports
[20:00] <mparillo> but that is a separate additon, right?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> mparillo: http://paste.kde.org/549614/
[20:00] <shadeslayer> nope
[20:05] <Riddell> mparillo: rekonq isn't part of KDE SC
[20:05] <Riddell> it's released separately
[20:10] <mparillo> TY both. I seem to have lost muon entirely. 
[20:21] <mparillo> I re-installed muon, and added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to my Software Sources > Other Software, but it says rekonq is installed, and no change is requested. I added Pre-Released updates to Kubuntu Updates tab, but it still said no change is requested.
[20:29] <Riddell> mparillo: what makes you think it's not installed?
[20:31] <mparillo> Oh, rekonq is installed, but I am wondering how to upgrade it. 
[20:31] <yofel> to which version? precise has 1.0 in backports from what I see
[20:34] <apachelogger> mercy I say
[20:34] <mparillo> Exactly. I have gotten used to the new version in the 12.10 beta and was wondering how to get it on 12.04.
[20:35] <yofel> ah, that'll need a backport first
[20:36] <mparillo> So I added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to my muon.
[20:41] <Riddell> mparillo: nobody has done a backport 
[20:41] <Riddell> oh
[20:44] <Riddell> mparillo: nobody has done a backport 
[20:47] <mparillo> Fine by me. I was getting ready to go back to the daily 12.10 build anyway. I just loaded 12.04.1 because I thought shadeslayer might have liked a quick test of KDE SC 4.9.1 on 12.04.1
[20:55] <mparillo> Wow, the daily images is over a GB. Does it have both LO and Calligra? I saw something about LO menus
[21:03] <Riddell> mparillo: yes I think that'll be why
[22:02] <shadeslayer> night