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[07:22] <gnomefreak> my launcher panel doesnt work
[07:27] <raymond_> gnomefreak, what is it doing exactly?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> raymond_: not launching apps
[07:28] <gnomefreak> i have to go into dash to launch apps
[07:33] <raymond_> gnomefreak, hmm.. haven't run into that problem consistently.  Tried reinstalling unity?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> raymond_: ill be back but im doing updates atm than try restarting
[07:52] <mn2010> is anyone active currently?
[07:57] <zekoZeko> somewhat.
[07:58] <mn2010> well... its 4am EST... i dont expect many people to be active, even less... ~ but i have a issue with package updates from last night.
[07:59] <zekoZeko> the world is round, you understand that, right? :)
[07:59] <zekoZeko> it's not EST everywhere
[07:59] <mn2010> Not actually sure what caused/is causing the issue. But it deffinitely was from the main repo. and it was last night... - Xorg is acting stupid with Specifically the Radeon/ATI driver
[07:59] <zekoZeko> no idea there, sorry.
[08:00] <zekoZeko> everyting still works for me, but I have one nvidia card and one intel.
[08:00] <mn2010> Lmao, ofcourse Zeko... But i learn GMT -5 = -0 , Daytime is most active
[08:02] <zekoZeko> are you using fglrx or the free driver?
[08:02] <zekoZeko> try changing if it's possible.
[08:02] <mn2010> Free. ABI 11 not supported yet
[08:02] <mn2010> not to mention a issue with Kernel 3.x+ still with FGLRX
[08:03] <zekoZeko> you'll have to wait for someone else then, I won't be much help with this.
[08:03] <zekoZeko> good luck.
[08:04] <mn2010> is there a changlog for xserver-xorg-common?
[08:05] <zekoZeko> on your system it should be in /usr/share/doc/
[08:05] <zekoZeko> but online too, just a sec
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[08:08] <mn2010> brb, need to try and ident
[08:16] <zekoZeko> mn2010, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xorg-server_1.13.0-0ubuntu1/changelog
[08:16] <mn2010> zekoZeko: Thanks!
[08:17] <mn2010> zekoZeko: more i think about it, it may be a Conf issue...
[08:19] <BigWhale> Is quantal daily build broken at the moment? All I get is a question about video modes and that's it ...
[08:19] <BigWhale> when trying to boot live image
[08:20] <mn2010> now im really starting to wonder...
[08:22] <BigWhale> ok, nomodeset seemed to help
[08:22] <BigWhale> I can restore my grub now ... *bursts into tears of joy* :>
[08:26] <mn2010> lol, grub or "Grub2"... -_-
[08:26] <BigWhale> Grub2 :)
[08:27] <BigWhale> ok, I guess I'm back...
[08:28] <BigWhale> thanks :)
[09:36] <raymond_> Upgrade finished.. and now.. everything with opengl crashes
[09:36] <raymond_> I can't even run glxgears... coming from 12.04 -> 12.10
[09:36] <raymond_> using open source ati drivers.
[09:38] <Streamstormer> raymond_: report a bug
[09:39] <raymond_> Streamstormer, will do.  I'm just going to try reinstalling libgl first
[10:18] <raymond_> Streamstormer, back... got unity working
[10:19] <raymond_> and glxgears too. :)
[10:22] <zekoZeko> how?
[10:23] <Streamstormer> raymond_: great :)
[10:25] <raymond_> zekoZeko, a symlink.  The dri module I needed was in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri, but libgl didn't know to look there.  So I had to symlink the libraries in that folder to /usr/lib/dri
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[12:23] <jtaylor> hurray grub2 finally installed after 12 hours of moving stuff around on my disk :)
[12:24] <jtaylor> note to self, partition your disk properly to begin with
[12:34] <davi> Is Ubuntu quantal KDE desktop already usable, that is to say, stable?
[12:35] <davi>   I ask because I am thinking about using that distribution as desktop, because it includes some tools which are not on Precise
[12:35] <davi> Else I will go with Precise I use backports, manual compilation and so on
[12:37] <BluesKaj> davi, is this for home use or work ?
[12:37] <davi> I am going to give it a try. I have looked at the quantal tagged bugs at launchpad.net
[12:37] <davi> Bluefoxicy, work
[12:37] <davi> from home
[12:38] <BluesKaj> davi, alpha and beta releases aren't recommended for work situations
[12:38] <davi> I on Debian squeeze since 6 years ago. Previously I was on Debian sid
[12:38] <davi> I know
[12:39] <davi> I was thinking about get a freeze with stable KDE state
[12:39] <davi> Well, I will go with Ubuntu precise and backport compile if needed some new tool
[12:39] <davi> thanks
[12:40] <BluesKaj> well ,12.04 is a good choice since i's also a LTS release
[12:40] <davi> yes
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 12.10 will be released officially in about 5-6 weeks
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !schedule
[12:42] <ubottu> A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[12:42] <davi> cool, cool
[12:43] <davi> 12.10 = quantal?
[12:43] <davi> oops, I see
[12:43] <BluesKaj> October 18th
[12:43] <davi> So, I think it is more or less stable
[12:43] <davi> Is there a ISO or similar to download and install?
[12:44] <davi> Let me look myself
[12:44] <BluesKaj> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[12:44] <BluesKaj> davi,^
[12:45] <davi> thanks. I was getting only the Precise one
[12:46] <tsimpson> davi: if you just want the latest KDE (4.9.1), just grab it from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[12:47] <davi> tsimpson, Which one is included in the current Quantal?
[12:48] <tsimpson> the same version, but it saves you having to upgrade the entire OS just to use a newer KDE version
[12:48] <davi> ack
[12:55] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, good suggestion ! :)
[13:16] <davi> I am going to use the server ISO, because my CD is 700MB max.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> davi, which releas are you on ?
[13:21] <davi> I am burning Quantal sever ISO
[13:21] <davi> I am on a Debian squeeze desktop (amd64)
[13:23] <davi> later
[13:58] <alex285> Gnome-Shell screencasting in Quantal with Ricotz PPA?
[14:52] <aljosa> anybody knows when amd/ati drivers will be available? all i'm getting is that xorg-video-abi-11 is required for fglrx but not available
[14:59] <BluesKaj> aljosa, the fglrx driver is available in the repos
[15:04] <aljosa> BluesKaj: yes it is but it's not installable (for me) and i just did update/dist-upgrade. i thought that new fglrx release is required, fglrx is working for other users?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> aljosa, i assume so , but don't know for sure
[15:09] <trijntje> Hi all, after upgrading to Quantal I can no longer boot into windows. The partition is still present, but it does not show up in grub
[15:09] <trijntje> I've already ran update-grub, but that didn't help
[15:12] <BluesKaj> trijntje, sudo os-prober ' then run 'sudo update-grub , again
[15:13] <trijntje> BluesKaj: thanks, that seems to have done the trick. Phew, that gave me a bit of a scare :P
[15:57] <Wizard> Hi, could somebody press super+s?
[15:58] <Wizard> Do you have ugly lol_i_learned_open_gl gray frame around desktop previews?
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[18:04] <user82> !info gcc
[18:04] <ubottu> gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.117ubuntu1)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0-5ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB
[18:41] <PvandeWyngaerde> hi, is it normal that i get a grub  in the last step when trying to install kubuntu 12.10 beta to an ssd ?
[18:42] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: What do you mean 'get a grub'?
[18:42] <PvandeWyngaerde> i forgot error
[18:42] <PvandeWyngaerde> a grub error
[18:42] <penguin42> hmm, so no you shouldn't get an error (what ever it was)
[18:42] <penguin42> did it actually boot or just stop at an error prompt ?
[18:44] <PvandeWyngaerde> it doesn't boot afterwards
[18:44] <PvandeWyngaerde> where can i find logfiles of the installation ?
[18:45] <penguin42> ok, that shouldn't happen - the logs should be in /var/log/installer
[18:45] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: Other than having an SSD is there anything else about your machine?
[18:46] <PvandeWyngaerde> its a dual socket opteron 248, brand new ssd
[18:46] <PvandeWyngaerde> when booting again in live cd modus i see the partition and files
[18:47] <PvandeWyngaerde> oh, and i used the toram option
[18:47] <prodnix> hi all, can anyone enlighten me on the situation with fglrx on 12.10?
[18:48] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: 'toram' option?
[18:48] <DrHalan> prodnix: doesnt work with current XServer yet
[18:48] <DrHalan> hopefully it will work soon before the release
[18:49] <PvandeWyngaerde> toram kernel option during boot,   first place my dvd installation medium completely in my 4 GiB ram,   then in runs faster
[18:49] <prodnix> who's side is the fault on, amd or canon?
[18:49] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: Oh haven't seen that one - hmm where there any options during the boot?
[18:50] <penguin42> prodnix: With a closed source driver you have to wait for the closed source provider to update
[18:50] <PvandeWyngaerde> penguin42: well, its a well hidden option, not documented during boot, you have to know it
[18:50] <PvandeWyngaerde> maybe its a papercut issue ?   but its for powerusers ?
[18:50] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: Were there any errors during the install?
[18:50] <prodnix> ok, im not very confident with AMDs efforts so i wont hold my breath
[18:51] <penguin42> prodnix: They normally manage it by release
[18:52] <prodnix> whats release for quantal?
[18:52] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: Well is the grub problem you're getting related to that option or is it just a different screw up?
[18:52] <prodnix> whens*
[18:52] <penguin42> prodnix: October 18th apparently
[18:52] <PvandeWyngaerde> penguin42: i'm checking, please hold
[18:52] <prodnix> thank you
[18:58] <PvandeWyngaerde> i can see files on the current ssd partition,    but /var/log/installer does not exist,  or was not copied to this partition, i might have to perform a new installation
[18:59] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: What was the state of the machine before you installed - was it an empty ssd? Is that the only disk?
[19:00] <PvandeWyngaerde> yes, empty ssd (during first try, not during second),   only disk
[19:01] <penguin42> hmm
[19:01] <PvandeWyngaerde> i choose my own disk layout,  single partition full ssd /  ext4
[19:01] <penguin42> how big is the disk?
[19:02] <PvandeWyngaerde> in that screen i can choose the device for boot loader
[19:03] <PvandeWyngaerde> 60 G  Model Number:       INTEL SSDSC2CT060A3
[19:04] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: Hmm that should work, please report a bug on it; I'd try with a separate /boot partition
[19:04] <PvandeWyngaerde> boot loader i can choose /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[19:05] <penguin42> I'd go for sda
[19:05] <banished> Hi, I want to do a bisect according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection but I don't know where to get the debnian/ folder
[19:07] <bjsnider> apt-ge source linux-image
[19:11] <PvandeWyngaerde> hmm, now i dont get that error,   must have been because i tried another workaround by putting grub on the disk first,   i saw the system now running update-grub
[19:14] <PvandeWyngaerde> nothing about grub in installer log...
[19:17] <PvandeWyngaerde> ok, it worked now
[19:17] <PvandeWyngaerde> man, that ssd is fast
[19:18] <PvandeWyngaerde> i guess the cause was that grub was not on the system
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> PvandeWyngaerde, did you check how the ssd was being read, ie sda sdb and were you using a usb for install, sometimes these get switched.
[19:20] <PvandeWyngaerde> only keyboard an mouse usb connected
[19:20] <PvandeWyngaerde> sda for sure
[19:20] <penguin42> PvandeWyngaerde: I wonder if it installed the grub on the ram disk it had created for it to be from ram?
[19:21] <PvandeWyngaerde> i used toram again this time, and no conflicts now
[19:21] <penguin42> hmm ho well
[19:43] <lapion> when installing a newer quantal over a previously installed quantal the installer allways crashes upon trying to create the new user
[19:43] <penguin42> please report that!
[19:44] <lapion> it has been hapening consistantly
[19:45] <lapion> the first time I reported it it happened to be with an older version, and thus it was discarded.
[19:45] <lapion> I will check in a moment, it is a scratch system after all..
[19:52] <lapion> busy reinstalling..
[19:52] <lapion> I hope the instaler doesn't freeze this time..
[20:01] <lapion> it crashed yet again, now it's gathering data
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[20:14] <lapion> penguin42, I reported it
[20:15] <penguin42> good
[20:18] <lapion> penguin42, do you want the bug number ?
[20:18] <penguin42> sure
[20:19] <lapion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051400
[20:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1051400 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installing over old installation crashes installer" [Undecided,New]
[20:20] <lapion> what ubottu said ;-P
[20:21] <penguin42> lapion: You don't say at what stage it crashes or when you say crash what you see exactly?
[20:32] <lapion> penguin42, during the installation slideshow at some point.. I am installing to see what the installer was busy doing..
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[20:39] <lapion> The installer says: creating user...
[20:41] <lapion> a new window opens telling me that you(we) are sorry the installer crashed etc, etc..
[20:41] <lapion> penguin42, g
[20:42] <lapion> or should I add that to the bug report ?
[20:49] <penguin42> lapion: Yeh just add to the bug report
[20:49] <penguin42> (I think you might be able to edit the text)
[20:49] <mchoaib> I have Kubuntu 12.10b1 installed and my Computer have an Nvidia 6200 video card (not onboard). I tried to install video drivers and always gave me the "activated but not in use". Anyone knows how to solve it? Sorry if not this way to ask...
[20:49] <mchoaib> Hi, before all
[20:55] <lapion> mchoaib, after installing the drivers and activating them you need to reboot.
[20:58] <mchoaib> yes, of course
[20:58] <lapion> penguin42, shall I post the one that just happened ?
[20:58] <mchoaib> i did it
[20:58] <mchoaib> but still not in use
[20:59] <lapion> mchoaib, did you use the ubunutu instaaler? or did you get the driver from the vidia site ?
[20:59] <mchoaib> ubuntu installer
[21:00] <mchoaib> in fact i use the "Aditional Drivers" windows
[21:00] <mchoaib> and use the nvidia-current, the one is 304.43
[21:00] <mchoaib> i still have it activated but not in use
[21:01] <lapion> are you using quantal ?
[21:01] <mchoaib> yeap
[21:01] <mchoaib> 12.10b1
[21:01] <mchoaib> updated to today
[21:02] <mchoaib> kernel 3.5.0-14-generic
[21:09] <lapion> well either create a bug report, or wait for the next daily release.
[21:11] <mchoaib> ok... one last question. Have the URL to send the bug report?
[21:47] <zekoZeko> gee, now i'm the one with broken grub. I'll fix it tomorrow.
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[23:49] <zoktar> hmm qt applications dump me back to console all of a sudden, anyone know whats up?
[23:49] <penguin42> all qt apps?
[23:50] <zoktar> virtualbox and 2 other clients
[23:52] <penguin42> do they output any diagnostics on the console you ran them from?
[23:53] <zoktar> heh i forgot how to push xapps into into X from console accually
[23:53] <zoktar> xhost + didnt seem to work
[23:54] <penguin42> I mean a terminal rather than a real console
[23:54] <zoktar> ah yes will do
[23:57] <zoktar> http://pastebin.com/nZkAzPni
[23:57] <zoktar> gonna try vbox now
[23:59] <penguin42> hmm, never seen the resource temporarily unavailable on an X server