[04:49] <akheron> cjohnston: ok, thanks
[04:49] <akheron> erm
[04:49] <akheron> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[04:50] <akheron> cjwatson: I tried three times, the last time without checking the "download updates while installing" box
[04:51] <akheron> every time I got the same error, and tried to ping the apt server right after the error, and it resolved just correctly
[10:39] <alkisg> Hi, could someone check LP bug #978654 to verify if I correctly did a branch merge proposal?
[10:43] <ogra_> hmm, hasnt aptdaemon been ported to py3 yet ?
[10:49] <ogra_> oh, pkcompat.py defaults to /usr/bin/env python in the shebang
[10:50] <ogra_> alkisg, is python 2.7 installed alongside py3 on that system ?
[10:51] <ogra_> (python3 should actually handle strings in utf-8 without having to decode them, the issue looks more like a python version issue)
[11:02] <alkisg> ogra_: default precise system
[11:03] <alkisg> When is python3 becoming the default? In 12.10?
[11:05] <ogra_> oh, precise, yeah, ignore me then :)
[11:05] <alkisg> ogra_: dbus.String('Γεια') fails in Quantal as well
[11:05] <ogra_> right py3 should eb the default in 12.10
[11:06] <alkisg> python -c 'import dbus; dbus.String('Γεια');'
[11:06] <alkisg> ==> traceback etc etc
[11:06] <ogra_> python3 -c ....
[11:06] <ogra_> the binary has a version suffix
[11:06] <alkisg> But aptdaemon doesn't have #!python3 in its headers...
[11:06] <alkisg> *shebang
[11:07] <ogra_> ogra@horus:~/devel/packages/aptdaemon-0.45+bzr861$ grep -r python3 *|wc -l
[11:07] <ogra_> 73
[11:07] <ogra_> ogra@horus:~/devel/packages/aptdaemon-0.45+bzr861$
[11:07] <ogra_> ogra@horus:~/devel/packages/aptdaemon-0.45+bzr861$ grep -r bin/python3 *|wc -l
[11:07] <ogra_> 4
[11:07] <alkisg> head -n 1 pkcompat.py => #!/usr/bin/env python
[11:07] <ogra_> thats what i meant :)
[11:08] <ogra_> aptd and aptcon are py3 already
[11:08] <ogra_> pkcompat.py isnt
[11:08] <ogra_> for precise your fix is fine
[11:09] <alkisg> While for quantal they're going to port pycompat.py to python3 after ff?
[11:09] <ogra_> from quantal on the proper fix would be to port pkcompat
[11:09] <ogra_> not sure anyone is on it atm though
[11:10] <alkisg> Also I'm wondering what happens when a python2 module imports a python3 module
[11:10] <ogra_> given its nearly 3000 line i doubt we'll see a port in time
[11:10] <alkisg> So, if pkcompat.py is python3, and it's imported from a python2 script...
[11:11] <ogra_> there are compatibility layers for imports
[11:11] <alkisg> Ah, nice then
[11:12] <ogra_> i dont have the links to the porting guide here but google should help if yu want to look
[11:12] <alkisg> Nah, we have major bugs to work on, this is just so that we don't have to disable apport completely
[11:12] <ogra_> in any case you should try to get a signoff from glazor ...
[11:12] <alkisg> (it's annoying to have all students complain about crashes they see all the time)
[11:13] <alkisg> How do I do that?
[11:13] <ogra_> hope that he comes around on IRC or mail him
[11:13] <alkisg> OK
[11:13] <ogra_> (sebastian heinlein, his name and address is all over the code )
[11:13] <alkisg> The most pressing bug we need to solve is the keyboard layout problem... I wonder why it remains broken for so much time, even before 12.04...
[11:14] <ogra_> well, does it occurn in non ltsp setups ?
[11:14] <alkisg> Yeah
[11:14] <alkisg> In all default multilingual setups
[11:14] <ogra_> oh, i thought it was just ltsp
[11:14] <alkisg> So, maybe in half of the ubuntu installations
[11:14] <ogra_> did you talk to colin about it yet ?
[11:15] <alkisg> No, I didn't know who to ping, I asked here a couple of times but got no response
[11:15] <ogra_> well, it often helps to look at the changelog and ping the person that did the most uploads there ;)
[11:15] <alkisg> Btw the bug does _not_ occur in LTSP ;)
[11:15] <ogra_> ah :)
[11:15] <alkisg> Only in the server, which doesn't use LDM
[11:16] <ogra_> so we should just convert all ubuntu installs to localhost ltsp loopback sessions ;)
[11:16] <alkisg> Haha, or replace lightdm with ldm :D
[11:16] <ogra_> yeah, easy fix
[11:16] <ogra_> :)
[11:16] <ogra_> people wouldnt even notice you replaced the DM ... their names are so close ;)
[18:48] <alkisg> pitti: hello... since you were the one to help us (=greeks, russians etc) with gdm and LP bug #460328, I wonder, could you do the same for lightdm and LP bug #1051288? Same bug, different DM... :(
[20:28]  * penguin42 just wonders whether bug 1040557 has been discussed with Samsung