[06:00] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: no, it means "declare the variable with this name in the current scope".. sure you don't have to without "use strict;" but with strict you need to declare a variable 'our', 'my', 'local' or 'state'
[06:37] <pinky-> coffee time
[06:40]  * pinky- whispers to Azelphur "psst got any parsley?"
[06:40] <MartijnVdS> atomic parsley?
[06:40] <pinky-> I was just referring to the video clip he posted yesterday
[06:40] <pinky-> :)
[08:05] <AlanBell> bug 950160
[08:06] <AlanBell> woot, HUD stealing alt from VMs might get fixed
[08:30] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:31] <TheHustle> Hello, please could someone tell me, how to get an md5sum of a cd in the cdrom drive, thank you.
[08:33] <pinky-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[08:34] <TheHustle> thank you pinky-
[08:44] <pinky-> more coffee required.
[08:47] <popey> +1
[08:48] <Laney> getting out of bed required first
[09:53] <Seeker`> No! Coffee bad! Tea good!
[09:54]  * Seeker` ponders which sort of tea to have this morning
[09:54] <brobostigon> new Dr Who, and new QI XL, tonight, :)
[09:56] <MartijnVdS> *\o/*
[09:57] <brobostigon> o/
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> there was a program on trains last Thursday
[09:59] <pinky-> I need a slave to send to the shop for cake as "Time Team" marathon is on More 4
[10:22] <pinky-> oh it's quite sunny here today so I'm off in garden, back later
[10:24] <popey> :)
[10:34] <bittin> might not go to UK until next year
[10:38] <popey> is that good or bad?
[10:38] <MartijnVdS> for you or for him?
[10:40] <Seeker`> good. means more tea for us!
[10:40] <bittin> popey, its okay i guess
[11:10] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: hah, I have 2 trips to the UK planned already ;)
[11:15] <bootinfdsds> AlanBell, Hi there ... love your G+ posts ...
[11:15] <AlanBell> really?
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> All the chicken ones?
[11:17] <bootinfdsds> Yep ... I like Alan Pope more though ( he's addicted to it !)
[11:17] <AlanBell> yeah, I like popey's posts more too
[11:17] <popey> O_O
[11:18] <czajkowski> lol
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> popey: you do post quite a bit on G+ :)
[11:18] <bootinfdsds> Are there any others that I dont know  about that do regular posts ?? - I could add them ...
[11:18] <popey> I do?
[11:18] <AlanBell> speaking of which, did you know that popey only has one facial expression? http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/popey.jpg
[11:18] <popey> haha
[11:18] <bootinfdsds> opening....
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: http://wolk.vandestreek.net/~martijn/lolpopey.jpg
[11:19] <bootinfdsds> Christ .. I always wondered what the guy with the ball was ...
[11:20]  * bootinfdsds has struth moment
[11:21] <bootinfdsds> MartijnVdS, Looks like he goes to my local college .. Hahaha.
[11:23] <bootinfdsds> I wonder what happened to this guy ???? http://goo.gl/m9nlm
[11:26] <bootinfdsds> Some ppl !
[11:26] <bootinfdsds> Anyway , did everyone vomit at the apple keynote ?
[11:26] <AlanBell> did anyone watch it?
[11:26] <bootinfdsds> Oh its software freedom day today !
[11:29] <bootinfdsds> #sfd looks decidedly roomy with only 12 people in the channel...
[11:33] <bootinfdsds> representing .. at least 450 people ... ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Day )
[11:41] <bootinfdsds> Anything good on the radio at the moment ?
[11:42] <bootinfdsds> .
[11:42] <bootinfdsds> .
[11:42] <bootinfdsds> .
[11:42] <bootinfdsds> .
[11:42] <MartijnVdS> bootinfdsds: stop flooding, please
[11:43] <bootinfdsds>  I have to say when-ever I think of the UK Ubuntu group I think of dad's army ... Is that an Apt description ?
[11:44]  * bootinfdsds realises he's just insulted the entire room ... oh dear me
[11:55] <bootinfdsds> lots of 3pm games on today .. thought that was a tradition lost ?
[12:33] <popey> davmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1049890
[14:06] <jacobw> bootinfdsds: kinda accurate, see 'the wing commander'?
[14:06] <popey> http://images.plurk.com/2ApwVlEkIAt00qVcckJ5pg.jpg
[14:06] <popey> hong kong airport apparently uses ubuntu
[14:07] <jacobw> :D
[17:25] <AlanBell> upgraded my OLPC to the latest image with Gnome 3
[17:26] <AlanBell> fallback mode only but it is nice
[18:00] <jacobw> AlanBell: how is compositing on an OLPC?
[18:01] <AlanBell> well it all seems fine, no llvmpipe so it is just fallback without 3d stuff
[18:02] <AlanBell> rhythmbox on it won't talk to my phone in exactly the same way it doesn't on Ubuntu
[18:02] <jacobw> :)
[18:04] <AlanBell> think I might take this to the office as an IRC machine
[19:12]  * penguin42 wonders if there are any shortcuts in chrome to select a link within a webpage
[19:16] <jacobw> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dbepggeogbaibhgnhhndojpepiihcmeb
[19:18] <penguin42> jacobw: Ah yeh, I've been thinking of trying one of the vi plugins, what do you do in that to select a particular link?
[19:21] <jacobw> in vimium, press f, each links will be subscripted with letters and you can use those letters to follow the link
[19:22] <jacobw> vimium is quite unintrusive compared to the firefox extensions, which IMO are cumbersome
[19:23] <penguin42> jacobw: I'm a bit worried though that since I use ff and chrome it'll be a pain to learn both
[19:23] <penguin42> nice thing about vi is it works everwhere
[19:23] <jacobw> they're the same
[19:23] <penguin42> ah ok
[19:26] <jacobw> vimium is kind of a limited implementation compared to the firefox extensions, the firefox extensions try to make it possible to use everything accessible to an extensions with a consistent keyboard scheme
[19:27] <jacobw> there's more bugs in the FF extensions that in vimium
[19:32] <penguin42> hmm nice, seems a bit odd to use HL for history forward and back and JK for tabs; tabs are horizontal
[19:33] <jacobw> vim doesn't make a great deal of sense if you ask why everything is how it is, but it's just easier that way :)
[19:34] <penguin42> jacobw: No, I mean vimiums use of HL/JK doesn't make sense to those of us who've used vi for about 50% of our lives
[19:35] <jacobw> which do you do more often?
[19:36] <jacobw> in my experience, vim prioritizes the things you have to do all the time
[19:37] <jacobw> like all the things that are bound to capital letters
[19:39] <penguin42> jacobw: I use vi all the time, and quite often use hjkl to move around
[19:43] <penguin42> jacobw: My point was purely that I'd have expected vimium to use HL to move between tabs, rather than JK since tabs are typically horizontal and there is the association of hl to move horizontally
[20:09] <brobostigon> QI XL :)
[20:14] <Azelphur> pinky-: nah I don't sell parsly, I don't want the police to take my car xD
[20:14] <pinky-> haha
[20:15] <pinky-> that's tickled me
[20:16] <pinky-> quite funny
[20:23] <Azelphur> pinky-: did you see the one about the washing machine? :P
[20:23] <Azelphur> police documentaries are funny xD
[20:23] <pinky-> no doesn't ring any bells
[20:24] <Azelphur> pinky-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh1asOpDZxk&t=58m20s
[20:24] <pinky-> lol
[20:25] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:26] <pinky-> yeah like you watch that docu for one hour then at end they say that....
[20:27] <Azelphur> indeed \o/
[20:28] <pinky-> I just laughed so hard it hurt
[20:28] <Azelphur> xD
[20:29] <Azelphur> I have another one which is funny somewhere, trying to find it xD
[20:31] <Azelphur> pinky-: http://www.splicd.com/c_ZBlMM7qlI/2410/2420 is a good one
[20:31] <Azelphur> proactive policing right there.
[20:31] <pinky-> yeah lol I saw that one the other day
[20:31] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:32] <Azelphur> did you see the one where the police were making funny noises?
[20:32] <Azelphur> that's the one I'm trying to find xD
[20:32] <pinky-> no not seen it
[20:33] <Azelphur> yay here it is xD http://www.splicd.com/hOX_CJVh2uA/8/21
[20:33] <pinky-> Bling!
[20:33] <Azelphur> lol
[20:34] <pinky-> actually I have a younger sister who is a copper from Durham and she writes on her facebook account all the time about gypsies:P
[20:34] <pinky-> true
[20:34] <Azelphur> fun
[20:35] <pinky-> you can choose your friends but not your family heh;)
[20:35] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:47] <mattt> pinky-: did my first "fast" day today, bloody hungry :P
[20:50] <pinky-> when I'm really hungry and there's nothing I fancy I just sleep it off
[20:50] <mattt> i'm not used to feeling hungry, as sad as that sounds
[20:52] <pinky-> yes if you are a regular eater, fasting is hard to do
[20:53] <mattt> <-- regular eater :P
[20:54] <pinky-> it's public logged in here and I can't really chat fully, but I take meds and when I do take them it's only time I eat.. when I don't take them I can't eat at all and can goes days and days
[20:55] <mattt> ah, that sounds tough
[20:55] <hamitron> never heard a better reason to pop more pills ;D
[20:55] <pinky-> I'm addicted to coffee with sugar and that is what keeps my body weight up
[20:55] <pinky-> I have curtain health problems
[20:55] <pinky-> certain*
[20:56] <pinky-> my meds rule my life so I tend to try and not take them if I have to
[20:56] <pinky-> but there comes a time when I must
[20:57] <pinky-> that's all I can really say in public
[20:57] <mattt> fair enough
[21:00] <pinky-> I'm a bit shy:)
[21:00] <lanboy> i used to be shy
[21:01] <pinky-> with virtual strangers in the Ubuntu world where nobody really knows who everybody is:)
[21:01] <lanboy> but after i was forced to work with the public i became more open
[21:06] <pinky-> I'm really bad at food shopping as I tend to always buy everything in tins! .. If I buy freash produce for the fridge it always spoils before I get round to thinking about eating it
[21:07] <pinky-> so I stopped buying freash aprt from milk
[21:07] <lanboy> buy stuff thats easy to add into stuff
[21:07] <lanboy> peppers and onions etc
[21:07] <pinky-> I tend to drink a lot of fruit smoothies in place
[21:07] <pinky-> in place of
[21:08] <lanboy> i've got peppers, tomatoes, spring onions and chinese cabbage right now
[21:08] <mattt> or frozen veggies
[21:10] <pinky-> if the Mylan calandar is correct and the world ends on December 21st at 10:30pm get to my place cos I've got all the tins!
[21:12] <Seeker`> erm
[21:13] <Seeker`> just
[21:13] <Seeker`> no
[21:13] <pinky-> also incase of Zombie outbreak
[21:13] <lanboy> dont frozen vegetables negate the reason for having vegetables
[21:13] <lanboy> i had a canned soup today and it was pretty awful lol
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> *cue canned laughter*
[21:14] <lanboy> oh you
[21:17] <pinky-> Mayan*
[21:28] <lanboy> what're you guys up to tonight anyway?
[21:31] <pinky-> take over the world like we try to every night
[21:33] <lanboy> olol
[21:34] <lanboy> i'm having a discussion on the internet with some enraged girl on youtube
[21:49]  * popey hugs pinky- 
[21:56] <mattt> lanboy: frozen vegetables are perfectly good :D
[21:58] <lanboy> i thought they lost a lot of their vitamins and good stuff through being frozen an unfrozen
[21:58] <lanboy> and*
[22:12] <guest72446> hii
[22:12] <guest72446> i have issue with my webcam
[22:22] <lanboy> whats the issue?
[22:55] <brobostigon> nos da everyone, sleep well.
[22:57] <lanboy> cheers
[22:57] <brobostigon> o/
[22:57] <Azelphur> anyone know how I'd change the application that opens magnet links?
[22:59] <lanboy> opening from browser?
[22:59] <lanboy> or system?
[23:02] <Azelphur> lanboy: browser
[23:03] <lanboy> firefox?
[23:03] <Azelphur> chromium
[23:03] <lanboy> oh
[23:03] <lanboy> then i dont know :P
[23:03] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:03] <Goshawk> Hi guys, is there a linux version of windows 'scan disk' and if so, how do I do it?
[23:03] <Azelphur> no idea what windows scan disk does, elaborate :P
[23:03] <ali1234> scandisk does a lot of things
[23:04] <ali1234> !fsck
[23:04] <Goshawk> ah ok, cheers
[23:04] <ali1234> that's more like chkdisk though
[23:05] <ali1234> or dskchk or whatever it's called
[23:07] <penguin42> Goshawk: So the question is what do you want to check/fix - fsck checks for inconsistencies in the fileystem structures, not anything to do with say a bad physical disk or fragmentation say
[23:07] <Goshawk> actually all of the above
[23:08] <penguin42> Goshawk: Well for physical disk issues I'd use smartctl to ask the drive to do a self test and see the error logs
[23:08] <penguin42> Goshawk: And generally on Linux you don't need to do any fragmentation fixing
[23:09] <Goshawk> ok cool
[23:10] <lanboy> penguin42: you seem to be quite knowlegable, could you explain why i only get disk space back when i ctrl+del, del only removes the file visably
[23:10] <lanboy> penguin42: sorry shift+del
[23:10] <penguin42> lanboy: That shouldn't happen unless there is some program that has the file open
[23:10] <penguin42> lanboy: If a program has the file open then it won't really be freed up until the program ends
[23:11] <lanboy> penguin42: does nautilus count?
[23:12] <penguin42> lanboy: Not for a directory normally - but if it's say a tar or iso that has actually been mounted/unpacked to view it by nautilus then probably yes
[23:14] <lanboy> penguin42: i seem to have just lost disk space from deleting things in the past, is there anything i can do to sort it out /defrag?
[23:14] <penguin42> lanboy: No, because it shouldn't happen
[23:15] <penguin42> lanboy: Are you sure you've not just moved it to a trash can somewhere you haven't emptired?
[23:15] <lanboy> penguin42: i deleted the files then emptied the trash
[23:16] <penguin42> that should work
[23:16] <Azelphur> aha, got it
[23:16] <Azelphur> chrome uses xdg-open, so I did a little hack to make xdg-open do what I wanted \o/
[23:16] <lanboy> niceee
[23:18] <lanboy> penguin42: thanks for the info
[23:19] <Azelphur> now I click magnet links and it ssh's my torrent box and adds them, automagically \o/
[23:19] <lanboy> penguin42: heh i should probably reboot, havent done in 120 days :P