[03:27] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you awake at this time?
[03:29] <Kilos> thought so
[03:29] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[03:29]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[03:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[03:33] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[03:33] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[05:25] <Kilos> inetpro, morning, how are the kids?
[05:35] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[05:35] <Kilos> morning magespawn 
[05:36] <magespawn> the greeter program is working on iTwinkle in #linux-studies
[05:36] <Kilos> magespawn, i think i dreamed it. did you or kbmonkey give a link for the greeter script
[05:36] <magespawn> kbmonkey did.
[05:36] <Kilos> lol
[05:37] <Kilos> i came on too late to get it
[05:37] <magespawn> hold on
[05:37] <Kilos> did he link or mail it to you
[05:38] <Kilos> have you put it in GC yet
[05:39] <magespawn> he put the link in the channel
[05:39] <magespawn> i took gc down so i will reinstall today maybe
[05:39] <Kilos> wow thats cute
[05:40] <magespawn> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18686471/scripts/greeter.py
[05:41] <Kilos> ty sir
[05:41] <magespawn> np
[05:41] <Kilos> if i miss him tell him to give it to the ibid guys
[05:42] <Kilos> im sure the weed will like it
[05:42] <Kilos> tell / ask
[05:45] <magespawn> superfly has it on iTwinkle
[05:46] <Kilos> i mean for them to add it to ibid
[05:47] <magespawn> will mention it
[05:48] <magespawn> gotta run for work bbl
[05:48] <Kilos> go well
[06:04] <Kilos> eish
[06:24] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[06:24] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[06:32] <magespawn> so whats up Kilos?
[06:33] <Kilos> im trying to remember what all i had installed. did a clean install just before 8ta crashed
[06:33] <Kilos> now qp doesnt wanna auth me
[06:34] <Kilos> and i didnt save how to set up everything
[06:36] <magespawn> i think that might be because of the change of os version
[06:37] <magespawn> changes the computer id
[06:38] <Kilos> ah
[06:38] <Kilos> 12.04 really runs well with mate installed
[06:38] <Kilos> very fast
[06:39] <magespawn> cool
[06:39] <magespawn> what are the machine specs?
[06:39] <Kilos> ig ram
[06:39] <Kilos> 2.8g cpu
[06:39] <Kilos> 1g ram
[06:40] <magespawn> have that old laptop, but it is much lighter than that
[06:40] <Kilos> cant use more ram, i dont think you get 1g ddr cards
[06:40] <Kilos> i have mate on my old pc too
[06:41] <Kilos> 1.7g cpu and 640m ram
[06:42] <magespawn> the lappy only has 512kb
[06:42] <magespawn> sorry
[06:42] <magespawn> mb
[06:42] <Kilos> will work
[06:43] <Kilos> mB
[06:46] <magespawn> running vanilla 9.04 at the moment
[06:47] <Kilos> youre pcs in the shop, do they run windows?
[06:47] <Kilos> peeps wont understand linux will they
[06:49] <magespawn> they run ubuntu and kde with xfce as the desktop
[06:50] <Kilos> ah
[06:50] <magespawn> brb
[06:50] <Kilos> i go sort sheep
[06:57] <superfly> it's actually mildly irritating
[06:57] <Kilos> what superfly ?
[06:57] <nuvolari> eek, I have to hit the road
[06:58] <Kilos> run nuvolari 
[06:58] <nuvolari> going to be late for the DLUG get-together
[06:58] <nuvolari> I'll slip oom Kilos 
[06:58] <nuvolari> it's raining
[06:58] <Kilos> eish
[06:58] <superfly> we need to do the same...
[07:13] <magespawn> whats up superfly? you not finishing your sentances
[07:14] <Kilos> hehe
[07:15] <superfly> the greeter is irritating, it needs per channel config and to store its configuration in thed database
[07:15] <superfly> and we need to get going as well, a long day ahead of us
[07:16] <magespawn> i am sure the problem with the greeter can be sorted
[07:17] <magespawn> as for long day, cannot help much there except to say 'sterkte'
[07:38] <magespawn> Kilos how did you set up auth on QP?
[07:39] <Kilos> i have just purged her and starting again
[07:40] <magespawn> superfly another idea for the greeter is to have it respond to users /away and /back commands
[07:40] <magespawn> for those who use quasselcore 
[07:40] <magespawn> well that is one way to do it Kilos
[07:40] <Kilos> hehe
[07:42] <magespawn> looks like the amount of users for the channel have gone down again
[07:42] <Kilos> yeah 
[07:43] <magespawn> you watching the rugby?
[07:43] <Kilos> yeah
[07:44] <magespawn> just got the live scores set up on the the other pc
[07:45] <magespawn> i really would like them to stream this over the net
[07:45] <Kilos> there are sites that do it
[07:45] <Kilos> tara did it till she got a decoder
[07:45] <magespawn> you usually have to pay
[07:47] <Kilos> http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline=rugby
[07:47] <Kilos> http://www.supersport.com/rugby
[07:47] <Kilos> hope one is free
[07:48] <magespawn> will check it out ty
[07:48] <Kilos> yw
[07:50] <magespawn> cool the first one has a free live link
[07:52] <Kilos> great
[07:56] <magespawn> the sound runs without a problem but the video has to buffer
[07:56] <magespawn> internet not fast enough
[08:11] <Kilos> eish
[08:11] <magespawn> not bad have it buffered now
[08:11] <Kilos> ah
[08:12] <Kilos> our kickers are sick today
[08:12] <Kilos> both steyns
[08:12] <magespawn> also took my streaming radio offf
[08:12] <magespawn> off
[08:12] <magespawn> seems like it
[08:12] <magespawn> but at least they seem to miss as well
[08:12] <Kilos> 4 or 5 missed already
[08:12] <Kilos> sigh
[08:22] <superfly> magespawn: I think one of the big needs of the greeter is per-channel configuration and nick memory
[08:23] <magespawn> what do you mean by nick memory?
[08:23] <superfly> magespawn: the greeter remembers nicks so that it doesn't greet them again
[08:24] <magespawn> mm might be good to have expiry on that
[08:27] <kbmonkey> hello all, from dbn software freedon day meeting :D
[08:27] <magespawn> hey kbmonkey
[08:27] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey 
[08:29] <nuvolari> righto
[08:29] <nuvolari> welcome from Durban :D
[08:29] <magespawn> hey nuvolari
[08:30] <nuvolari> Welcome to Softwarefreedomday as well
[08:30] <kbmonkey> apologies for not being able to connect again last night
[08:30] <magespawn> no worries these things happen
[08:30] <nuvolari> ugh, freakin vodacom is down on data
[08:30] <nuvolari> I can't do anything
 magespawn: I think one of the big needs of the greeter is per-channel configuration and nick memory
[08:31] <magespawn> some ideas from the fly
[08:32] <superfly> it also needs to use the db, and not rely on memory which gets wiped every time the plugin is loaded and every time the bot goes down
[08:34] <magespawn> where is the sfd taking place?
[08:35] <nuvolari> Gloria Jean's, Davenport
[08:35] <nuvolari> magespawn: are you going to join us? :p
[08:36] <magespawn> no up in hluhluwe unfortunately
[08:37] <nuvolari> ag no c'mon magespawn :P we're here untill 14:00
[08:38] <magespawn> 3 hour drive each way? if i leave now i will only get there at 14:00
[08:41] <nuvolari> hrr
[08:42] <nuvolari> fine, be like that
[08:42] <Kilos> hehe
[08:42] <nuvolari> we won't judge
[08:42] <magespawn> why not bring it all up here?
[08:42] <nuvolari> :P
[08:43] <nuvolari> we can do that on a long-term-planned stage, sounds good?
[08:44] <magespawn> think that would limit the number of people who would come
[08:45] <magespawn> i would like it 
[08:47] <magespawn> is there a channel for sfd?
[08:53] <Kilos> empangeni magespawn 
[08:53] <Kilos> no good in hulehule
[08:53] <magespawn> thats a compromise
[08:53] <magespawn> why not?
[08:54] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[08:56] <Kilos> hluhluwe too tiny man
[08:57] <kbmonkey> there is a channel at #sfd :D
[08:58] <magespawn> not many ppl there though
[09:29] <kbmonkey> is it also raining that side magespawn?
[09:34] <Kilos> kbmonkey, when i get control of my bot i will ask you how to get your plugin going
[09:34] <Kilos> stupid thing tells me im not her boss
[09:35] <Kilos> will purge the cow again now now
[09:42] <magespawn> pouring kbmonkey
[09:43] <kbmonkey> icow? lol Kilos 
[09:43] <Kilos> hehe
[09:46] <kbmonkey> our internet is very very slow here. everyone is struggling. magic times!
[09:47] <Kilos> sigh
[09:49] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:50] <Kilos> hi inetpro whats news
[09:50] <inetpro> Kilos: just got prescription from the doc
[09:50] <Kilos> what is it
[09:51] <inetpro> based on the symptoms gave stuff for scarlet fever
[09:51] <inetpro> she didn't even see the kids
[09:51] <Kilos> isnt he even sure?
[09:51] <Kilos> she eish
[09:51] <Kilos> wonderful doc you got
[09:51] <inetpro> eh
[09:52] <inetpro> well the small one was there on Wednesday
[09:52] <Kilos> what antibiotics inetpro ?
[09:52] <Kilos> write it down
[09:52] <inetpro> and based on the fact that the other kid in school was diagnosed yesterday
[09:53] <inetpro> Kilos: write down what?
[09:53] <Kilos> whats in the meds
[09:53] <inetpro> ahh
[09:53] <Kilos> strengths etc and what types
[09:55] <inetpro> amoxicillin tryhydrate
[09:55] <inetpro> amoxicillin trihydrate
[09:55] <Kilos> penicillin yeah
[09:55] <inetpro> sounds like you know the stuff?
[09:56] <Kilos> had to learn a lot about meds  for stock farming
[09:56] <Kilos> and breeding dogs
[09:56] <inetpro> sjoe
[09:57] <inetpro> at least it seems that the fever has broken for now
[09:57] <Kilos> when you can get a bottle of pure aspirin pills
[09:58] <Kilos> very good for fighting fever and safe for kids
[09:58] <inetpro> the girl was on 40°C last night
[09:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:58] <Kilos> funny they all got it together
[09:58] <inetpro> yep
[09:59] <inetpro> well, three of them
[09:59] <inetpro> my oldest daughter not really
[09:59] <Kilos> eat lotsa onion in everything
[09:59] <Kilos> the rest of you
[09:59] <inetpro> just signs on the tong 
[09:59] <Kilos> weird that
[09:59] <inetpro> but not lots
[09:59] <Kilos> the bugs are mutating
[10:00] <inetpro> well I guess even a healthy person can be a carrier
[10:00] <Kilos> yeah
[10:01] <Kilos> well as long as fever is broken thats a good sign
[10:01] <inetpro> well I just hope it stays away
[10:01] <inetpro> son was ok yesterday afternoon but then got it later again
[10:02] <Kilos> they must complete the course of meds hey
[10:02] <inetpro> yep
[10:02] <Kilos> on time as well 
[10:02] <Kilos> gotta keep the drugs level up in the blood
[10:03] <Squirm> hi
[10:03] <Kilos> thats how bugs mutate, peeps stop meds as soon as they feel better so bug only half dead and builds resistance to the drug
[10:03] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:03] <Kilos> oh ya Squirm !
[10:04] <Kilos> what was your sound prob
[10:04] <Kilos> ac97
[10:04] <Kilos> in bios
[10:04] <Squirm> no
[10:04] <Squirm> don't know how I fixed the first part of it
[10:04] <Squirm> the 2nd problem I had was a permissions issue
[10:04] <Squirm> sound worked as root but not as a user. once I fixed that all was good
[10:04] <Kilos> permissions to get sound going?
[10:05] <Kilos> wow
[10:05] <Squirm> yep
[10:05] <Squirm> /dev/snd
[10:05] <Kilos> did you chown that file
[10:05] <Squirm> tried adding myself to the audio group which owned the file, never worked
[10:05] <Squirm> so just made it world readable
[10:06] <Kilos> i dont understand that
[10:06] <Squirm> now I just need to find out how to make it that more than one application can access the sound as well
[10:06] <Kilos> chown the snd file
[10:06] <Squirm> I set the permissions on /dev/snd/* to 666, the last 6 is so that everyone can read/write to it
[10:06] <Squirm> chmod
[10:06] <Squirm> chown changes ownership
[10:06] <Squirm> chmod changes permissions
[10:07] <kbmonkey> hi Squirm 
[10:07] <Kilos> oh dont you wanna own the whole thing
[10:07] <Kilos> hehe
[10:07] <Squirm> Kilos: if I create a new user sometime(which I probably won't though), then said user won't have sound
[10:08] <Kilos> ah
[10:11] <Kilos> my xchat doesnt bloep anymore it goes pong
[10:11] <Squirm> I turn xchat sound off
[10:12] <Squirm> find it annoying. if I get hilighted the icon flashes
[10:12] <Kilos> then i miss when someone talks to me if im on pidgin or so
[10:12] <Kilos> dont see everything happening on the screen
[10:12] <Kilos> and look what im typing so easy to miss
[10:15] <Squirm> ok
[10:16] <Squirm> needs to stop raining now
[10:16] <Squirm> :/
[10:17] <Kilos> hasnt started here yet
[10:22] <Squirm> rained yesterday, stopped at about 3/4pm. started again this morning
[10:22] <Squirm> terrible weather in Durban too
[10:23] <Kilos> hi acherv Cantide 
[10:23] <Cantide> hello '-'
[10:23] <Kilos> wish we had some of that water 
[10:23] <Squirm> guys were meant to play water polo in Scottburgh and that was rained out
[10:23] <Cantide> watching Arg vs Aus now >_<
[10:23] <acherv> Kilos: hi
[10:24] <acherv> Kilos: i didnt go out
[10:24] <Kilos> out where acherv 
[10:25] <acherv> Kilos: no matter................. mistake
[10:25] <acherv> Kilos: how are u?
[10:25] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[10:26] <Squirm> actually
[10:26]  * Squirm turns heater on
[10:26] <Squirm> hello acherv, Cantide 
[10:26] <Cantide> hey Squirm '-'
[10:26] <Kilos> ya very cold here as well;
[10:26] <acherv> hi Squirm
[10:26] <Kilos> evil wind
[10:28] <acherv> I am asking if that winter don't want to kill us 
[10:28] <Kilos> yeah been a cold one
[10:29] <acherv>  u are in winter or in spring?
[10:29] <Kilos> supposed to be spring but a cold front hit us
[10:29] <Kilos> but no rain here
[10:29] <Squirm> woop
[10:29] <Squirm> I
[10:29] <Squirm> get to
[10:29] <Squirm> bath in brown water
[10:29] <Squirm> fantastic
[10:30] <Squirm> owe, playing my music too loud for my head
[10:30] <Squirm> s/owe/ow
[10:30] <Kilos> lol
[10:43] <Kilos> magespawn, you gotta go auth password
[11:07] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[11:07] <Kilos> you well?
[11:07] <not_found> uncle Kilos , hello... 
[11:07] <not_found> just got to the big city, working here for the next two weeks... get to the hotel and my booking is only from tomorrow and they are full >:(
[11:08] <Kilos> ai
[11:08] <not_found> in another one now...
[11:08] <not_found> at least here are lots :p
[11:08] <Kilos> no b+b's there
[11:08] <Kilos> hehe
[11:08] <Cantide> which city?
[11:08] <Kilos> lol
[11:08] <Kilos> arab land
[11:08] <Cantide> >.<
[11:08] <not_found> Oh Abu Dhabi
[11:08] <Cantide> aha
[11:09] <not_found> hi Cantide 
[11:09] <Cantide> hello :p
[11:10] <Cantide> what are you up to in Abu Dhabi?
[11:10] <Cantide> 'o'
[11:11] <not_found> Oh, just work... got to help out a new plant being built... doing a "Factory Acceptance Test" ... or helping out in any case...
[11:16] <Cantide> :)
[11:16] <Cantide> sounds like fun
[11:16] <Cantide> how is Abu Dhabi? Hot and dry i'd imagine :p
[11:17] <Kilos> ya they drink camel milk there and live on dates
[11:17] <Kilos> dates you eat not you go out on
[11:18] <Cantide> haha
[11:18] <Cantide> i've had neither for a long time
[11:18] <Kilos> haha
[11:18] <Kilos> me too
[11:18] <Cantide> was supposed to have some in Korea...
[11:19] <Cantide> not sure what's happening there now -.-
[11:20] <not_found> :p
[11:22] <Kilos> hows the family not_found ?
[11:22] <not_found> fine thanks uncle Kilos 
[11:23] <Kilos> meeting monday hey
[11:24] <Kilos> nothing new to discuss i think but to stay inna good books well go on
[11:24] <Kilos> inetpro, als reg vir maandag aand
[11:24] <Kilos> ?
[11:27] <not_found> :) I should be there if the net connection here holds out and I remember :p
[11:27] <Kilos> hehe
[13:04] <magespawn> Kilos thanks for the update on the ibid auth
[13:10] <Kilos> np magespawn 
[13:10] <Kilos> i struggled till i did that first then it all worked
[13:10] <Kilos> now i have made a note of it
[13:20] <inetpro> Kilos: ai, ek was so afwesig hierdie maand en selfs langer, kan nie sommer net so weer inspring nie
[13:20] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:21] <Kilos> die agenda is nog daar soos dit was
[13:21] <inetpro> anyone here attending SFDZA at Wits today?
[13:21] <Kilos> niks anders om te doen nie ek dink
[13:21] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[13:21] <inetpro> sal moet kyk hoe dinge loop, kan nie nou al belowe nie
[13:21] <Kilos> ok
[13:22] <Kilos> voel die kinders al beter?
[13:22] <inetpro> Kilos: net nog my seun is so bietjie af en  lusteloos
[13:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:23] <inetpro> die ander is almal weer vol lewe en goed ge-eet
[13:23] <Kilos> mooi hy het later begin ne
[13:23] <Kilos> more is hy reg
[13:24] <Kilos> net nie skiep op die meds nie
[13:24] <inetpro> nee, hy't Donderdag begin terwyl die middelste ene Vrydag begin het
[13:25] <Kilos> oh so syne het verder gevorder voor hy meds gekry het
[13:25] <inetpro> ja kan wees
[13:26] <inetpro> maar nog steeds geen uitslag nie
[13:26] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:26] <Kilos> sy gestel is sterker miskien
[13:27] <inetpro> sal maar net dophou 
[13:27] <inetpro> en hoop dat hy gou weer beter voel
[13:27] <Kilos> hy sal more
[14:15] <Kilos> magespawn, ?
[15:08] <nuvolari> hrr, anyone tried to downlead ubuntu recently?
[15:09] <nuvolari> I seem to have the same issues on all mirrors
[15:09] <nuvolari> it downloads a couple of mb's then it refuse to go on
[15:09] <nuvolari> eg. 729067520 (695M), 717598340 (684M) remaining
[15:09] <nuvolari> no matter how many times I break the connection and try to continue
[15:09] <nuvolari> (using wget)
[15:10] <Squirm> try a different mirror?
[15:11] <nuvolari> the same issue
[15:11] <nuvolari> and with different versions
[15:11] <nuvolari> 11.10/12.04.1
[15:11] <nuvolari> and http/ftp
[15:13] <Squirm> 696M Apr 19 03:57 ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:13] <Squirm> ok, I did download that while back
[15:16] <nuvolari> hmm, downloaded over 30mb on a different network, copied  that file over, and now the download resumes...
[15:16] <nuvolari> awkward
[15:16] <nuvolari> I hope it completes
[15:17] <Squirm> seems like your network was somehow timing out
[15:52] <inetpro> nuvolari: I would try it with the --no-cache option
[15:53] <inetpro> could be a upstream transparent proxy caching issue 
[15:53] <magespawn> hi Kilos got disconnected
[17:41] <Kilos> hi smile Trix[a]r_za 
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:41]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:45] <Kilos> m
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:46] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:50] <smile> :p
[17:50] <smile> hi Kilos :p
[17:51]  * smile listens to Whitesnake - All I Want All I Need
[17:55] <Kilos> hi superfly is it a big job to put that plugin in an ibid
[18:09] <smile> brb
[18:14] <superfly> Kilos: no, it's very easy
[18:15] <Kilos> ah can you help me sometime with it please
[18:15] <Kilos> during the week maybe
[18:16] <Kilos> or have you a link i can follow to do it
[18:18] <superfly> Kilos: you just drop the file into the plugins directory
[18:18] <Kilos> can i change the greeting just by removing that greeting and adding mine?
[18:27] <superfly> yes
[18:27] <Kilos> ty 
[18:31] <smile4> bye :)
[18:32] <Kilos> toods smile4 
[18:32] <smile4> see ya
[18:32] <superfly> OK, I seriously need to go to bed before I fall asleep on the keyboard
[18:32] <superfly> night all
[18:32] <Kilos> night superfly sleep tight
[18:52] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:14] <cesar> whos there?