[00:00] <jrib> jenia: when I say "install", I mean "install using APT"
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> sharpy, sda loads the mbr and gives the OS that is run in control of the boot, sda5 would not.  If you are referring to the command I ran a correct on refrence this please, we are already way out on a limb in explaining this.
[00:00] <jenia> okay thanks.
[00:01] <jenia> now, i 'm running i python3 and it uses pyton 2.7 as its interpreter. ill try to uninstall it and re-install it to see if it'll use the 3.3 interpreter instead
[00:03] <andreb> jrib looking at the screen here seeing some err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise/universe amd64 packages
[00:03] <andreb> its almost to the point at which it stops
[00:03] <abby_j> is there a location type manager for ubuntu?
[00:06] <pepee> andreb, you could try editting the sources.list manually while upgrading
[00:06] <pepee> but I'm not not sure how to do that :/
[00:06] <xangua> pepee: don't suggest thing like that please
[00:06] <skorket> d'oh, included an include directory I shouldn't have
[00:07] <pepee> xangua, qué?
[00:07] <xangua> andreb: if us servers don't work try to change to the main server: software center, edit, sources
[00:07] <pepee> xangua, why? what's wrong with that?
[00:07] <pepee> really...
[00:08] <pepee> xangua, you should try to understand the problem before talking
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[00:08] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <andreb> xangua to what server
[00:09] <NickWeber> Hi.
[00:09] <xangua> andreb: to the Main server
[00:09] <NickWeber> Does anyone know why i can't install ubuntu 10.10 on my IBM Aptiva?
[00:09] <andreb> its an the main server atm with those errors
[00:09] <andreb> i am using kpackagekit as the software manager
[00:10] <NickWeber> Does anyone know why i can't install ubuntu 10.10 on my IBM Aptiva?
[00:10] <jrib> NickWeber: 10.10 is no longer supported
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> NickWeber, 10.10 is end of life.
[00:10] <NickWeber> Oh.
[00:10] <andreb> jrib i cant seemt o copy andf paste the whoe output :(
[00:10] <NickWeber> I'm downloading 12.04.1, But it will take a long time
[00:11] <andreb> xaguna i have it looking for the best servers by doing a "select best server"
[00:11] <NickWeber>  Sadly
[00:11] <jrib> andreb: copy as much as you can, starting from the end
[00:11] <NickWeber> You could use pastebin, Also
[00:11] <NickWeber> andreb: you could paste in on pastebin then paste the link here
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> NickWeber, Are you sure that computer has enough you need a gig of ram at the least and the kernels are pae, I don't think it will run on that unit.
[00:12] <andreb> jribguys i have been posted the paste bin links .
[00:13] <Fernest> how can I remove the last three characters ".py" from a variable in the shell?
[00:14] <jrib> Fernest: ${var%.py}
[00:15] <sstan_at_home> basename ?
[00:16] <sstan_at_home> basename /u/dee/desktop/cns.boo .boo
[00:16] <sstan_at_home> results in : cns
[00:16] <Fernest> jrib: thanks!
[00:17] <Fernest> jrib: what language is it, so I can search for further questions?
[00:18] <jrib> Fernest: bash substring removal I guess.  Try #bash for some good bash resources (see topic there)
[00:18] <Fernest> Ok
[00:18] <jrib> Fernest: note that sstan_at_home gave  you an alternative
[00:19] <sstan_at_home> jrib: not as specific as yours ... but certainly valid, and potentially more useful
[00:19] <Fernest> yes. but you gave me the universal solution :-)
[00:20] <sstan_at_home> Fernest: are you new to Bash ?
[00:21] <Fernest> Before today I did not knew about the use of it.
[00:21] <kraetzja> my xorg.conf just got messed up and i lost all resolutions but minimum, whats the fix?
[00:21] <Fernest> but now I am amazed!
[00:21] <jrib> !cli | Fernest
[00:21] <Dr_willis> kraetzja,  see if theres a backup xorg.conf in /etc/ but in most cases the system should auto configure if there is no xorg.conf
[00:21] <sstan_at_home> Fernest: it can do wonders :)
[00:22] <Fernest> Yes. Very useful. I wrote some git short-cuts some hours ago.
[00:22] <Fernest> something like:
[00:22] <Fernest> ftodo load_database do_calculations write_files (which creates three new feature branches and such)
[00:23] <Fernest> or some other f____ commands for all those git commands I use dayly
[00:23] <sstan_at_home> Fernest: a tip : find how to use the "source" command. Useful if your scripts become too huge
[00:24] <oren_> Hey guys big problem here (hope you don't mind a lot of text) : I had dual booted Ubuntu and Linux before but my Windows partition got that new Java exploit trojan thing and it got completely trashed so I thought I'd try and reinstall windows, tried that but it didn't work at all (kept resetting itself as soon as it loaded windows) so I thought "bugger it, I'll just install Ubuntu as the only OS", so I got my usb key, loaded up
[00:24] <oren_> ubuntu and reinstalled it over my old Ubuntu (which I could no longer get into because the windows installation ruined the grub thing) and it installed on my 350gb drive or whatever it was and all was fine for a while until I reset my computer and nothing loaded at all, until I booted from the same USB key that I had to install ubuntu. Now I can only load my ubuntu via that usb key (but! you might think that I installed it on the
[00:24] <oren_> USB, but I obviously didn't because I remember reinstalling Ubuntu over my old existant ubuntu that I just could no longer get into because grub was dead and even when I take the key out, it's absolutely fine). What is going wrong here? Any help would be greatly appreciated
[00:24] <FloodBot1> oren_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <Fernest> sstan_at_home: ok I will. Although I will start learning with small things. Like "Run a certain python function in the current document of gedit"
[00:25] <sstan_at_home> cool! good luck
[00:25] <chaterz> Naz
[00:25] <jrib> !grub | oren_
[00:25] <oren_> that doesn't help at all
[00:25] <jrib> oren_: try just restoring grub, though it's not clear what your situation is exactly
[00:25] <oren_> I can only load my ubuntu via the usb key
[00:25] <jrib> oren_: so you've reinstalled grub to your hard drive?
[00:26] <oren_> no
[00:26] <oren_> I just want ubuntu as my sole OS
[00:26] <jrib> oren_: well that's what the first link tells you.
[00:26] <pepee> oren_, I think you installed grub on the USB drive. when you do that, the old grub install doesn't work anymore
[00:26] <burnt> hi, can I get some command line help? its probably pretty simple ... in a bash script, if the command line ... youtube-dl --get-title (url) gets a title of a youtube video ... how can I assign that to a variable
[00:26] <Dr_willis> that boot-repair tool is very handy to have also. it can fix a lot of grub issues
[00:27] <Fernest> sstan_at_home: ok. finished :-D
[00:27] <oren_> okay
[00:27] <oren_> I'll try that guys
[00:27] <oren_> thanks for the advice
[00:27] <Fernest> here the code for it:
[00:27] <Fernest> f=${GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_NAME%.py} a=`zenity --entry --title="Run Python Function - gedit" --text="Function to run"` python -c "import $f; test.$a"
[00:27] <j`ey> is it possible to get a newer gcc on 9.04 *easily*?
[00:27] <pepee> oren_, make sure you are installing in the hard drive
[00:27] <Dr_willis> burnt,     You mean use a variable  for 'URL' ?
[00:27] <Fernest> ups. typo
[00:27] <Fernest> f=${GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_NAME%.py} a=`zenity --entry --title="Run Python Function - gedit" --text="Function to run"` python -c "import $f; $f.$a"
[00:27] <burnt> no a variable for what it returns
[00:27] <burnt> eg, it returns "nasa talk"
[00:27] <sstan_at_home> burnt: variable=` some command here `
[00:28] <jrib> Fernest: since you are a "newborn" in linux (what a wonderful time), I will also send you the rute book which, although some parts are outdated, is very comprehensive and gives you a preview of many powerful aspects of linux: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[00:28] <arand> burnt: or VARIABLE=$(youtube-dl --get-title <url>)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> burnt,  MYVAR=$(thecommand)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> bash basics ;) well not basics.. but rather fundamental
[00:28] <arand> burnt: either `*` or $(*) works interchangably
[00:29] <Dr_willis> $() is a little differnt then `` but i cant recall how.. but it definatly IS easier to read. :)
[00:29] <burnt> thanks ... im trying to edit this script ... http://jeffreyv.hubpages.com/hub/Youtube-to-MP3-on-Ubuntu-Linux ... so typing the url only downloads the mp3 and renames the mp3 on title of video
[00:29] <jrib> j`ey: 9.04 is not supported anymore, time to upgrade
[00:29] <jrib> !upgrade > j`ey
[00:29] <jrib> Dr_willis: afaik the only difference is you can't nest ``
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> oren_, So you are in the ubuntu install via the usb booting you in?
[00:29] <j`ey> I dont want to go through the hassle of doing that
[00:29] <Fernest> jrib: Thank you. I will look into it. Although I am not new to linux. Before today I never had enough time to experiment with all the stuff like bash scripts (I often used python to do the stuff which could be done with bash scripts, just because I had no time to learn the syntax)
[00:29] <j`ey> (at this point in time)
[00:29] <jrib> j`ey: well 9.04 is not supported, so there's no support...
[00:30] <j`ey> jrib: no *official* support
[00:30] <jrib> Fernest: ah
[00:30] <oren_> wilee-nilee: I installed ubuntu to my hard drive (350gb) over my old ubuntu (apparently that's what the install said) but I can only run it when the USB live ubuntu thing is inserted
[00:30] <oren_> for whatever reason
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> oren_, So you are booted to the install right?
[00:30] <oren_> yeah
[00:31] <andreb> xaguna i got it to work
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> oren_, run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the results, we can load the mbr from the desktop.
[00:31] <oren_> alrighty
[00:31] <jrib> andreb: by the way, when you post a pastebin, you need to give the link in the channel
[00:32] <oren_> a link to the channel?
[00:32] <Pazzie> d
[00:33] <andreb> jrib i figured it out.. the http: link it was using had an extra "/" ... its passed the point it was sticking at
[00:33] <oren_> the fdisk thing isn't very big, is is possible to paste here?
[00:33] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> oren_, is it showing sda as the HD?
[00:34] <jrib> andreb: cool... but how/where did you remove the extra "/"?
[00:34] <oren_> I'm not sure, I'll just pastebin it
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> oren_, cool
[00:34] <resno> im trying to setup appletv remote with ubuntu, anyone know how?
[00:34] <oren_> (sorry not so good with this stuff)
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[00:36] <nevada>  i am lord nikon slackware server1 it is me nevada smith
[00:37] <oren_> here we go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205944/
[00:38] <oren_> though, I thought my HD was 500gb in total...
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> oren_, cool so from that install not a live cd open a terminal and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda   then sudo update-grub    yoiu should be able to boot from the HD then.
[00:38] <pepee> andreb, could you upgrade ubuntu?
[00:39] <oren_> wilee-nilee, thanks man - Do you have any idea where the rest of my hd went though?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> oren_, not really install gparted and have a look.
[00:39] <oren_> is that in the repositories?
[00:40] <oren_> ah apprently it is
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> oren_, yeah sudo apt-get install gparted  looks like 320 gigs though as read
[00:40] <ryty> anyone recall the command to remove parentship of a terminal to a process started from that terminal?
[00:41] <oren_> wilee-nilee, ah okay... I'll install gparted and see what I can do about this bad boy
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> oren_, cool have fun. ;)
[00:42] <oren_> alrighty, lets look at this gparted thingo
[00:42] <oren_> very interesting
[00:43] <oren_> it just shows those ones that fdisk did
[00:43] <oren_> but I know this HD is 500gb
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> oren_, you can take a screenshot of gparted and put it in a imagebin if you would like us to look at it.
[00:44] <oren_> alright
[00:44] <jrib> ryty: disown
[00:44] <unless__> How do I figure the distribution name of the Ubuntu version I am running at my computer now?
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[00:44] <jrib> unless__: lsb_release -c
[00:44] <unless__> jrib, thank you.
[00:45] <oren_> http://imagebin.org/228468
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> oren_, looks like 320 gigs from here.
[00:45] <oren_> yep
[00:46] <resno> anyone know much about lirc around?
[00:46] <oren_> hmm
[00:46] <oren_> ah wait
[00:46] <oren_> apparently it is 320gb
[00:46] <ryty> jrib, thank you
[00:46] <oren_> ...that was my other laptop
[00:46] <oren_> *slaps head*
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> oren_, hehe.
[00:47] <bekor> hi using ubuntu 12.04 after update lost my compiz windows effects on my gnome classic desktop, any suggestions?
[00:47] <oren_> wilee-nilee, alright I'll reset my laptop now and see what happens
[00:47] <oren_> thanks for your help man
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> oren_, cool you must mean reset the bios, no problem.
[00:48] <WeThePeople> bekor, can you access the compix gui
[00:48] <pepee> resno, there is a lirc channel:  #lirc
[00:48] <bekor> sorry how do i do that?
[00:48] <WeThePeople> bekor, maybe use the hud and type  compiz
[00:48] <WeThePeople> i am on lucid
[00:49] <bekor> sorry what is hud?
[00:49] <resno> pepee: haha, why didnt i think of that?
[00:49] <unless__> Is it too bad if I add a line at /etc/apt/sources.list in order to upgrade virtualbox since it moved from non-free to contrib?
[00:49] <Dr_willis> you can use the command 'compiz --replace' or 'compiz --restart' to restart compiz if it crashes
[00:50] <Dr_willis> unless__,  normally one uses the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/files one per new repo.
[00:50] <pepee> resno, I remember using lirc, but I don't remember what I did :(
[00:50] <Dr_willis> the vbox guide shows how to install it from the vbox homepage i belive
[00:50] <Dr_willis> !vbox
[00:51] <unless__> Dr_willis, yes, and thats exactly what it says.
[00:51] <drupin> I want to install the OS what i should keep the partition sizes on 8GB flash drive
[00:51] <unless__> Dr_willis, "Add one of the following lines according to your distribution to your /etc/apt/sources.list: "
[00:51] <Dr_willis> they may have ppa instructions also. Ive not needed the vbox from their homepage in ages.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> why do you need it?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> drupin, a full install?
[00:52] <drupin> yes wilee-nilee
[00:52] <unless__> Dr_willis, what do you mean? VB?
[00:52] <Dr_willis> unless__,  its in the repos last i looked..
[00:52] <Rezzah> wilee-nilee, hey it's Oren here - it works!
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> drupin, I would make one partition for the OS one for swap if you need a swap.
[00:52] <Rezzah> thanks so much for your help
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> Rezzah, cool.
[00:52] <unless__> Dr_willis, yes, it is but not updated.
[00:52] <Dr_willis> the extension pack is about the only extra thing i needed.
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> no problem Rezzah
[00:53] <Dr_willis> unless__,  so what newer feature does it have that you need?
[00:53] <drupin> wilee-nilee: and boot?
[00:53] <Rezzah> wilee-nilee, much much appreciated
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> drupin, boot will go to the mbr.
[00:54] <drupin> ok wilee-nilee so i dont keep a seperate /boot partion .. what is good swap size
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> drupin, YOu want to do a manual something other install make sure grub is pointed at the usb like sdb etc whatever it is no partitions for grub.
[00:54] <unless__> Dr_willis, good question.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> drupin,  if using suspend/sleep = about the size of ram + a littlebit  is common.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> drupin, The swap normally is equal to the ram if you want to hibernate, what is your ram and do you need a hibernate?
[00:56] <drupin> dr_jesus_: wilee-nilee: hibernate ya means keep idle
[00:57] <drupin> ohh that the reason current install is freezing now... swap is now 1GB and ram is 2.5GB
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> suspend does not y=use the swap I believe only hibernate, which I think now has to be turned on.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> I got less then 10 sec boot times. :) i dont use any of them.
[00:58] <drupin> my current install crashes if too much apps loaded
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, you left out the nah nah nah nah nah
[00:58] <Dr_willis> swap=ram is a safe bet. if you have 'just' 2.5 gb of ram.. you may want  3gb of swap
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Its amuseing when the POST testing takes longer then the OS booting
[00:59] <drupin> will then 5 GB good for the rest of OS
[00:59] <Dr_willis> 5gb for / ? thats way tiny.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> perhaps doable.. but i wouldent think you would get much work done
[00:59] <drupin> coz flash drive is 8GB
[01:00] <unless__> Is it possible to download Ubuntu using wget command?
[01:00] <blackshirt> it was enought if other part reside on another partition
[01:00] <blackshirt> Unless, yes
[01:00] <jagginess> unless__,  is it possible to walk on water? :)
[01:00] <Dr_willis> You can put swap file or partion on a hard disk on the internal drives. :)
[01:00] <unless__> blackshirt, and how do I figure the URL ?
[01:00] <Dr_willis> or a seperate USB
[01:00] <drupin> unless__: there is pozilla better than wget to resume also and it splits files also
[01:01] <Dr_willis> drupin,  picked up a 32gb usb flash just today on sale for $20
[01:01] <unless__> jagginess, well, haven't minded over it, right?
[01:01] <blackshirt> unless, you can copy link address from ubuntu iso
[01:01] <blackshirt> And pass it to wget
[01:01] <jagginess> drupin, if you load alot of apps in memory and your system freezes. Try running a memory test.
[01:01] <unless__> drupin, where do I find more info about it?
[01:02] <blackshirt> Unless_ i have doing that more than twice
[01:02] <drupin> i never did that jagginess but i went the recovery mode so many times
[01:02] <jagginess> drupin, well if you never done that, then I guess everybody says something not worthy :).. SO TRY IT :)
[01:02] <VinnyAtaide> hey, is this the place recommended for resolving ubuntu instalation problems?
[01:03] <MonkeyDust> VinnyAtaide  yes
[01:03] <VinnyAtaide> okay, can I just type it here? it`s pretty simple
[01:04] <VinnyAtaide> I've just installed windows, it took all my HD (600gb) so I've shrinked 100gb for linux, but my ubuntu instalation isn't recognizing
[01:04] <VinnyAtaide> It says that I dont have any SO installed
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> VinnyAtaide, can you boot to anything?
[01:05] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, um.. i hope you used a simple gui tool to shrink your partitions, like gparted live cd..
[01:05] <VinnyAtaide> Yeah I boot windows normally
[01:05] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, well you must of chosen the option of using the whole drive for ubuntu
[01:05] <Dr_willis> VinnyAtaide,  is that 100gb partion unallocated? or in a ntfs filesystem?
[01:05] <tao> hi, all https websites are not working for me, bank, fb, etc please help
[01:05] <tao> i am using wifi connection
[01:05] <drupin> unless__: a min
[01:05] <VinnyAtaide> I've used the windows built-in partition manager
[01:05] <unless__> drupin, ok
[01:06] <ryty> tao, which browser?
[01:06] <VinnyAtaide> its unnalocated
[01:06] <tao> ryty,  fire fox
[01:06] <Dr_willis> VinnyAtaide,   use the custome/somthing else   item in the installer to delete that 100gb partion and partion it how you want.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> VinnyAtaide, you resized ubuntu with the windows partitioner?
[01:06] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, when you use-> fdisk -l<enter> does it say "loopback" anywhere?
[01:06] <ryty> tao, when you say not working, what do you mean exactly?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> VinnyAtaide,  also be sure you dont have more then the 4 primary partions limitation
[01:07] <VinnyAtaide> I've installed windows first, so I've used the windows built-in partition manager to shrink 100gb from my HD
[01:07] <VinnyAtaide> What's strange is that Ubuntu doesn't even recognize the windows at all, it's just a big 600gb partition
[01:07] <VinnyAtaide> ok
[01:07] <Dr_willis> fdisk -l information may shed some light on it
[01:07] <MonkeyDust> VinnyAtaide  are you now in windows or in a ubuntu live session?
[01:07] <VinnyAtaide> ubuntu live session
[01:08] <drupin> unless__: http://ashu-geek.blogspot.in/2012/01/how-to-install-prozilla-download.html
[01:08] <tao> ryty,  for example when i try to go to https://www.chase.com, i get the prompt, firefox can't establish a connection to server at www.chase.com
[01:08] <blackshirt> vinnyataide, i think you shouldn,t format shrinked partition
[01:08] <unless__> drupin, reading. Thank you.
[01:08] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, wubi?
[01:08] <MonkeyDust> VinnyAtaide  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit andd paste the url here
[01:08] <drupin> unless__: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/10/install-prozilla-download-accelerator.html
[01:09]  * jagginess thinks VinnyAtaide  is using wubi.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> you did boot the cd? or what exactly VinnyAtaide ?
[01:09] <VinnyAtaide> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1205976/
[01:10] <VinnyAtaide> I've booted from my usb driver
[01:10] <VinnyAtaide> using unetbootin
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> the ppa:tldm217/tahutek.net drupin is only supported up to oneric
[01:10] <drupin> ok
[01:10] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, so you ran the ubuntu installer before from the windows desktop or from cd?
[01:11] <Dr_willis> /dev/sda2          206848  1039132671   519462912    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT   is not unallocated. ;)
[01:11] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide,  it's normal to have linux installers running from fat32
[01:11] <VinnyAtaide> I had Xubuntu before I deleted all my data to put windows
[01:11] <jagginess> um.. ok VinnyAtaide boy
[01:11] <jagginess> !xubuntu
[01:11] <jagginess> ^
[01:12] <VinnyAtaide> okay
[01:12] <VinnyAtaide> thanks bye
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> to many helpers here hehe on one problem.
[01:13] <derekv> anyway to finish booting if i'm in initramfs shell due to wrong root uuid
[01:14] <derekv> I tried setting root= and then exit but it just loops
[01:14] <drupin> unless__: http://ashu-geek.blogspot.in/2012/05/prozilla-download-accelerator-and-apt.html
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> derekv, just reinstall grub or use suprgrub to get in and fix it.
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> reinstall to the mbr that is
[01:16] <derekv> I did resintall grub but it copied a in a config from a different machine
[01:16] <derekv> bah i'll just reboot
[01:16] <derekv> just wondered if there was a way to fix it from inside ash
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> derekv, you can manual boot yes.
[01:16] <VinnyAtaide> nobody is answering on xubuntu channel...
[01:16] <Dr_willis> !grub2
[01:17] <unless__> drupin, sounds cool, thank you.
[01:18] <VinnyAtaide> does anyone saw the fdisk that I've posted here? any highlights?
[01:18] <whoever> does k9copy stil use libdvdcss2 for decoding dvds or some other lib, using ubuntu 12.04 and i loose audio but can play the dvd that i am tring to copy . can someonee iassist
[01:18] <Dr_willis> VinnyAtaide,  i saw 1 drive with 2 ntfs partions. none unallocated.
[01:18] <blackshirt> vinnyataide, i don't see anything
[01:18] <drupin> ok unless__ tey it
[01:19] <VinnyAtaide> wow, but windows says its unnalocated
[01:19] <VinnyAtaide> ok
[01:19] <VinnyAtaide> gonna run gparted
[01:19] <drupin> unless__: use torrent prolly if its available
[01:19] <Dr_willis> or is windows saying its UNFORMATED
[01:19] <VinnyAtaide> ohhhh
[01:19] <VinnyAtaide> Idk, ill check now thanks brb
[01:20] <Dr_willis> delete the partion from ubuntu/fdisk/gparted. and restart theubuntu installer.. it should auto partion theunllocated space
[01:21] <jnix> hey guys.. anyone particularly good with grub2?
[01:22] <bekor> hi friends, using ubuntu 12.04 i have gnome classic as well as ubuntu standard desktop environments recently my windows effects stopped working after a update it seems compiz works, everything but windows effects like magic lamp for example. but everything works fine with the ubuntu unity environment i would rather have all the effects working on gmome classic because i hate unity. any advice?
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> jnix, many are ask your question
[01:22] <jnix> i've cloned my OS disk to the 2nd hard disk in my server. installed lvm2, and redid the partitions and copied the os back over to the newly created lvm.. now i can't get it to boot!
[01:22] <blackshirt> jnix, just ask here,someone with respectable capability would try to help you
[01:22] <jnix> is there something special i have to do to get grub2 to boot from lvm?
[01:22] <unless__> drupin, I can find jigdo and zsync at repositories.
[01:22] <jnix> i'm not using the uuid in grub.cfg, using the /dev/mapper node for mountpoint
[01:23] <unless__> drupin, what do you mean with tey it?
[01:23] <drupin> unless__: i never use it though found this morning only
[01:23] <jnix> i'm just trying to boot into the lvm container now, once i get that i'll get grub2 sorted
[01:24] <unless__> drupin, I also like the idea of torrent format.
[01:24] <jnix> im a RHEL guy, but ubuntu has better openstack support....
[01:24] <drupin> yes
[01:24] <blackshirt> jnix, you were right
[01:24] <blackshirt> Debian too
[01:25] <jnix> course i intend to use rhel vm's but.. :P
[01:25] <jnix> stick with what i know..
[01:25] <asgoo1> looking for some security advice, alright to post a question?
[01:26] <blackshirt> asgoo1, what the problems
[01:26] <MK`> Is there a command to list all folders I am sharing over a network?
[01:28] <drupin> is there any way i can remove the swap and merge in main partition
[01:28] <sankey> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso   <-- is that a liveCD? It's certainly a CD (700MB), but does it have a live environment?
[01:28] <drupin> try unless__
[01:29] <blackshirt> sankey, usually that was live cd
[01:29] <MK`> drupin, you can repartition your drive, yes
[01:29] <jnix> ha! did a chroot, ran update-grub and it fixed itself
[01:30] <drupin> MK`: how?
[01:30] <jnix> well, thanks anyway! :D appreciate it nonetheless
[01:30] <drupin> will i need go to live mode again MK`
[01:30] <asgoo1> just moved into a house with a load of gamers, already got the internet set up. just wondering to what extent they can monitor my browsing and how private easypeasy is keeping it for me...
[01:31] <MK`> drupin yes, you can't alter a partition you are using.
[01:33] <drupin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206004/ MK`
[01:33] <asgoo1>  whats the best program to keep my wifi data encrypted?
[01:33] <WeThePeople> asgoo1, ssh
[01:34] <WeThePeople> with auth
[01:34] <MK`> you made the first partition extended, drupin?
[01:35] <MK`> in any event you should be able to merge it with the partition after it, just make sure to back up that partition
[01:35] <drupin> i dont know what i did MK`
[01:36] <drupin> point me any article MK`
[01:37] <asgoo1> any1 know about 3d acceleration with poulsbo chipset
[01:37] <MK`> drupin: look up gparted, that's an excellent partitioning tool. It's on the liveCD
[01:38] <drupin> i used it the swap was 1 Gb i reduced it to 500 MB to merge in main partition
[01:38] <drupin> was unable but
[01:38] <drupin> i just want to remove the swap now
[01:38] <drupin> it is freezing my OS
[01:39] <drupin> how i fix this extended one
[01:40] <VinnyPotter> hey, sorry for the time I took, I'm on windows now
[01:40] <VinnyPotter> http://i.imgur.com/dE2o8.png
[01:40] <VinnyPotter> this is the situation of my partition by Windows
[01:40] <VinnyPotter> ops
[01:41] <MK`> drupin you'd need to repartition the whole drive, you can't really move an extended partition around, it'd be a bit risky.
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> dancing_bananas, can you fix your client to stay with nine nick.
[01:41] <drupin> MK`: means mount and all stuff
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> one* nick stringlau
[01:42] <drupin> its not freezing so far
[01:42] <drupin> or the system freezes
[01:45] <bin_bash> Hi there. I have a Crapbook Pro 8,1 and it says on the website that the Thunderbolt port "won't work"
[01:45] <bin_bash> but that's not true
[01:45] <Dr_willis> 'on the website'  meaning......
[01:45] <bin_bash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty
[01:46] <Dr_willis> if its a wiki page. you can correct/change things.. it maybe for older releases
[01:46] <Dr_willis> theres also a ubuntu docs channel i belive
[01:46] <bin_bash> It's not a wiki page
[01:46] <bin_bash> But the information is incorrect no matter what version you're using.
[01:47] <usr13> bin_bash: It says, "You can contribute to this wiki, see Wiki Guide for details"
[01:48] <bin_bash> Well I'm not going to explain how it works
[01:48] <bin_bash> I just wanted to tell you it was wrong
[01:48] <bin_bash> I don't even use Ewbuntu
[01:48] <usr13> bin_bash: What DO you use?
[01:48] <bin_bash> Arch
[01:48] <Dr_willis> etch-a-sketch? ;)
[01:48] <usr13> Ok, I'm lost....
[01:48] <bin_bash> Already?
[01:49] <bin_bash> That was quick.
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> maybe you could change the wiki to say crapbook
[01:49] <bin_bash> Not everyone thinks Apple is shit
[01:49] <usr13> wilee-nilee: excellent
[01:49] <bin_bash> It might be offensive to some of the hipsters in here.
[01:50] <TorpedoSkyline> <3 Apple
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> no just your rhetoric is all
[01:50] <bin_bash> TorpedoSkyline, your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
[01:51] <usr13> bin_bash: certainly not me.  (I was being facetious.)
[01:51]  * TorpedoSkyline shanks bin_bash with a paper towel holder.
[01:51] <bin_bash> usr13, you asked me what I was using. I said "Arch".
[01:51] <bin_bash> What is so confusing about that
[01:52] <TorpedoSkyline> Arch is like so 1979.
[01:52] <usr13> bin_bash: This is the #ubuntu channel.
[01:52] <bin_bash> TorpedoSkyline, what
[01:52] <bin_bash> usr13, I came in here to correct your data.
[01:52] <TorpedoSkyline> no one in here wants to deal with an OS you have to piece together to run.
[01:52] <usr13> bin_bash: Usually, people here are discussing ubuntu systems.
[01:52] <TorpedoSkyline> bleh.
[01:52] <zester1> Isn't this a support channel? Shouldn't we I don't know...... Talking about support related stuff and not apple bs?
[01:52] <usr13> bin_bash: It is not my data.
[01:52] <TorpedoSkyline> zester1 we should be.
[01:52] <TorpedoSkyline> Take this to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:53] <ratcheer> TorpedoSkyline: +1
[01:53] <bin_bash> zester1, it /is/ a support issue because someoe might come in quoting that page and you all will cling to it like some kind of bible
[01:53] <moxie> or #ubuntu-losers
[01:53] <bin_bash> and it's blatantly incorrect.
[01:53] <bin_bash> I use the thunderbolt port to output to my LCD TV
[01:54] <jrib> bin_bash: and you're on natty?
[01:54] <TorpedoSkyline> bin_bash then change it and contribute to society.. stop complaining. xD
[01:54] <TorpedoSkyline> jrib, no Arch.
[01:54] <jrib> TorpedoSkyline: ...
[01:54] <TorpedoSkyline> ikr
[01:54] <usr13> jrib: He is not a Ubuntu user.
[01:54] <bin_bash> jrib, it doesn't matter what I'm using, because it's a kernel issue and it was updated with the 3.4 kernel
[01:55] <jrib> bin_bash: verify it works on the *natty* version of ubuntu (which doesn't have 3.4 iirc), then feel free to fix the page.  Not sure what else you expect here.  This channel is for ubuntu support.
[01:55] <bin_bash> jrib, there's literally no reason that apt-get update shouldn't update the kernel
[01:55] <bin_bash> and if it doesn't
[01:55] <Celso> Hi there! Does sommeone has a bug on the ubuntu 12.04.1 on the left bar that isn't showing the app name when we put the mouse on top of the icon?
[01:55] <bin_bash> then your distro is bad and you should feel bad.
[01:55] <jrib> !sru | bin_bash
[01:55] <Dr_willis> we all feel bad for you bin_bash.
[01:55] <jrib> bin_bash: thanks for your opinion.  Do you have an ubuntu support issue we can help you with?
[01:56] <TorpedoSkyline> bin_bash. Thank you for the information. Your job of notifying the Ubuntu community is complete.
[01:56] <bkc_> bin_bash: stop bitching... you're giving Arch-users a bad reputation! -.-
[01:56] <zester1> I just don't want to see any more fighting ;) I see enough of it other places.
[01:56]  * wilee-nilee loves the ignore
[01:56] <TorpedoSkyline> loser.
[01:57] <Celso> Does sommeone has a bug on ubuntu 12.04.1 on the left bar that isn't showing the app name when we put the mouse on top of the icon?
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Celso,  just a few apps or all apps?
[01:58] <Celso> almost all but its random
[01:58] <zester1> Celso: What graphics card and driver are you using? Intel, Ati, Nvidia. OSS or Binary Blob?
[01:58] <delinquentme> cp is the copy/paste command ja???
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Celso,  ive not heard anyone else mention it.  was wondering if it was just Java apps. :)
[01:58] <Dr_willis> delinquentme,  cp copies..
[01:59] <Dr_willis> delinquentme,  man cp    for details of it.
[01:59] <Celso> with the intel 3000HD card and intel i3 processor
[01:59] <Dr_willis> paste - is more of a 'move/rename' operation.
[01:59] <zester1> Do they flicker?
[01:59] <Celso> hum...  weird....
[01:59] <Celso> nope
[02:00] <Celso> if i put the mouse, sometimes it shows, sometimes not....
[02:00] <Celso> but with the 2D version i am not having it
[02:00] <Celso> anny problem
[02:01] <zester1> Try upgrading your ubuntu, sounds like a bug with compositing.
[02:01] <Celso> i am using ubuntu 12.04.1 full updated
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Celso, You might try resetting the unity desktop, have you tweaked it in any way?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> test with a newly made user.
[02:02] <Celso> nop. just installed the pc, and installed the updates and the language. nothing more.
[02:03] <Celso> maybe something related to a bug on language pack?
[02:04] <zester1> No that wouldnt be it.
[02:05] <zester1> Its more than likely a bug in unity's compiz. I have no idea why they choose that as a foundation for unity it has always been extreamly buggy.
[02:07] <Celso> showld i report it?
[02:07] <zester1> Yes I would
[02:07] <VinnyAtaide> hello, it's me again, sorry for bothering you guys for so long
[02:07] <Celso> ok. i will report it.
[02:08] <Celso> thanks for the help
[02:08] <zester1> Sorry we could be more help ;)
[02:08] <VinnyAtaide> I have a screenshot from my windows partition manager showing all my partitions. I hope this way the situation could be better for me. I don't wanna delete my windows files
[02:08] <zester1> could = couldn't
[02:08] <Celso> no problem
[02:09] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, well backup your stuff.. cuse the xubuntu installer is not something i ever tried (you should try #xubuntu if you're using xubuntu)
[02:09] <Celso> i was searching for this bug but didn't find anything so, i was wondering if anyone here would hear something about it
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> VinnyAtaide, the windows partitioner will leave out actual partitions, you want to post a gparted view here.
[02:09] <Celso> or experienced the same bug
[02:09] <zester1> I have experanced it before.
[02:09] <VinnyAtaide> I'm not using Xubuntu, xubuntu was before I formatted with windows
[02:09] <jagginess> VinnyAtaide, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:09] <Celso> really?
[02:09] <usr13> jagginess: It is not different from the Ubuntu installer.
[02:10] <zester1> A few times I just switched to using a differant window manager.
[02:10] <jagginess> usr13, maybe, but I never used it.
[02:10] <VinnyAtaide> yeah, ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu share the same installer
[02:10] <VinnyAtaide> http://i.imgur.com/dyBXN.png
[02:10] <Celso> and how you got it fixed?
[02:11] <VinnyAtaide> can you see the link that I've posted?
[02:11] <zester1> Ummm I bought a Nvidia card and used the binary drivers from nvidia or you could try a differant wndow manager like xfwin
[02:12] <Gycklarn> When I use apt-get upgrade, are my nvidia drivers updated as well? I never thought about it until now.
[02:12] <zester1>  VinnyAtaide: How do you propose your going to backup 400+GB of data?
[02:12] <zester1> Yes
[02:13] <blackshirt> gycklarn, no,you should reinstall nvidia driver again
[02:13] <VinnyAtaide> I would, but it's funky, thanks guys I'll learn by myself and if I find the answer I'll post here =)
[02:13] <zester1> No one here installed when you upgrade if there is an avalable update its installed.
[02:14] <allan_> Hi, I has installed Xubuntu on my PC but I Like Ubuntu Desktop
[02:14] <zester1> blackshirt: What makes you think you have to re-install NV drivers when you update. I
[02:15] <usr13> allan_: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:15] <allan_> How I can Install the Ubuntu Desktop?
[02:15] <zester1> Download normal ubuntu would be the easyest way.
[02:15] <chrisward> Running apt-get upgrade on x64 ubuntu, and a few packages are being held back and no reason is provided anyone know how to fix/isn't a problem? Apt output: http://pastebin.com/FBxeMKCy
[02:15] <Celso> ok. i will report it. thanks guys!
[02:15] <jagginess> allan_, you mean um unity?
[02:15] <allan_> Ubuntu Desktop or GNome, What is the best?
[02:15] <jagginess> allan_, again here with ya man.. I have no idea if unity is on xubuntu!!!!!
[02:16] <VinnyAtaide> xubuntu have xfce
[02:16] <usr13> jagginess: Sure it is.  The repos are same.
[02:16] <allan_> yes Xubuntu have Xfce,but I like Ubuntu Desktop
[02:16] <allan_> My PC no support PAE
[02:16] <zester1> allan: Try both and you decided it comes down to preferance there is no one is better than the other.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> allan_, Here is a lionk for removing xubuntu and installing unity.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> link*
[02:17] <allan_> I hate Xfce,Lde and Kde
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> allan_, check the release is the same if you use it.
[02:17] <allan_> is ugly
[02:17] <usr13> xfce4 rocks!
[02:17] <VinnyAtaide> allan_ xfce is fast and clean, unity is slow"er" and prettier, and have some accesibility advantage
[02:17] <zester1> There all ugly ;)
[02:17] <allan_> 12.04 Xubuntu x64
[02:17] <allan_> xfce is ugly
[02:17] <chrisward> Running apt-get upgrade on x64 ubuntu, and a few packages are being held back and no reason is provided anyone know how to fix/isn't a problem? Apt output: http://pastebin.com/FBxeMKCy
[02:17] <allan_> Sorry is x86
[02:17] <trism> chrisward: the openjdk-7 update added new dependant packages, you need to: apt-get dist-upgrade; to pull them in
[02:18] <chrisward> thank you
[02:18] <delinquentme> SOOoooo I've got a rather large copy/paste operation going on ... on a server I'm SSHed into .. and I'm wondering about the progress
[02:18] <allan_> Gnome is best for me?
[02:18] <allan_> I have 1GB RAM
[02:18] <delinquentme> is there a better way to have done a cp operation ... something perhaps a bit more transparent as to what happening?
[02:18] <delinquentme> ALSO .. is a CP operation a heavy thing in an ubuntu OS?
[02:19] <chrisward> trism, worked, thanks *gives cookie*
[02:19] <natw1ck> exit
[02:19] <trism> chrisward: yum
[02:19] <zester1>  You guys want to see my Desktop Environment?  Its my own custom creation everything written from scratch by me :)
[02:19] <zester1> From the window manager on down.
[02:19] <allan_> What is the best for me?: Unity or Gnome Desktops?
[02:20] <VinnyAtaide> the best way is just reinstall ubuntu, if you install ubuntu on xubuntu you're gonna have a bad time with the many options of softwares that do the same thing (my opinion =p)
[02:20] <Wildbat> is there a log for crontab ~ i have set one to auto update but it don't seems to working ~ how should i debug it ?
[02:20] <bball-> how can I install gcc-3 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:20] <allan_> In 1GB RAM, 1.7GHz Processor
[02:20] <allan_> I have other Question
[02:20] <OerHeks> bball-, install build-essentials
[02:20] <bball-> that installs gcc-4.6
[02:21] <bball-> and the oldest version in the repo seems to be gcc-4.4
[02:21] <Gycklarn> Wildbat, You could always check /var/syslog
[02:21] <allan_> Ubuntu 12.10 requires PAE?
[02:21] <OerHeks> bball-, why do you need that old stuff ?
[02:21] <bball-> gcc-4.x can't buidl wireshark
[02:21] <bball-> the compielrs crash
[02:21] <Gycklarn> Wildbat, What command have you set it to run?
[02:22] <bball-> I've tried both 4.4 and 4.6 with the same result
[02:22] <OerHeks> !info wireshark
[02:22] <OerHeks> it is in the repo's
[02:22] <bball-> I need to build it from source
[02:22] <allan_> Help Me!!
[02:22] <bball-> I'm making modifications to the code..
[02:23] <bball-> and I need a recent version (cloned from the git repo)
[02:23] <OerHeks> bball-, if the compiler 'crash' or end with an error, the error inclides the solution
[02:23] <OerHeks> &includes
[02:23] <bball-> the compiler is not erroring due to a problem with the source code.. the compiler itself is crashing
[02:24] <MK`> Is there a command to list all folders I am sharing over a network?
[02:24] <zester1> This is what 1-1/2 years of work looks like writing a "Window Manager, Desktop, Desktop Panel" from scratch using Qt https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NqwiT4QUODs/UFPmcBMZcdI/AAAAAAAAAaI/wk9Q21h4kTE/s747/Untitled.png
[02:25] <zester1> Fastest/Most responsive Linux DE that exists to date ;)
[02:25] <bball-> the solution is to install gcc-3.x :-)
[02:26] <VinnyAtaide> http://i.imgur.com/3vZva.png !!! look at this, the system itself see all my files but the installer don't!
[02:28] <OerHeks> VinnyAtaide,  the installer does not see windows files.
[02:28] <zester1> It should detect that window is installed.
[02:28] <allan_> thanks for the link
[02:28] <VinnyAtaide> I mean not the files, just the partition, it should have the option to install next to windows
[02:29] <allan_> Ubuntu Requires kernel PAE?
[02:29] <allan_> 12.10
[02:29] <OerHeks> VinnyAtaide, did you select the right hdd ?
[02:29] <zester1>  VinnyAtaide: Correct it should.
[02:30] <VinnyAtaide> 0erHeks, what you mean? there's no option for that before. And there's only one HDD
[02:30] <allan_> How I can Uninstalla Xfce Desktop when I have Ubuntu desktop?
[02:30] <maverick> hello all
[02:30] <maverick> am having this peculiar problem with my ubuntu 11.10
[02:30] <zester1> Vinny: Try restarting the ubuntu install cd can act funny sometimes.
[02:30] <OerHeks> VinnyAtaide, then is must be something else, like your Sata hdd is set in the bios to IDE mode. change it to AHCI
[02:31] <VinnyAtaide> I just did 3 times
[02:31] <morgan> how do I remove 3d unity and install 2d unity D:
[02:31] <OerHeks> morgan, log out, change gdm to unity 2D and log back in again.
[02:31] <zester1> morgan: You dont 2D unity is discontinued do to a bunch of problems
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> morgan, 2d is already there in a dropdown at login, you can't just remove the 3d.
[02:31] <morgan> i tried that, I don't see the 2d
[02:32] <zester1> I wouldnt do it ;) Trust me its even worse than 3D
[02:32] <morgan> there is only 'Ubuntu' in the drop down thing
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> may be gone not sure really
[02:32] <morgan> I dono all of a sudden everything is kinda laggy and I've just re-installed the nvidia drivers
[02:32] <VinnyAtaide> I'm gonna check what 0erHeks said
[02:33] <VinnyAtaide> brb
[02:33] <maverick> http://imageshack.us/a/img819/7590/84991358.png
[02:33] <maverick> am a new ubunru user
[02:33] <maverick> i get the menu sccreen in this way
[02:33] <maverick> *ubuntu
[02:34] <solifugus> I lost my irc password.. how can I have it mailed to me?
[02:34] <OerHeks> maverick, click the 3 pencils next to the white house, for more programs
[02:34] <morgan> should I try using the driver from nvidia.com or should I use whatever is recommended in system settings > additional drivers ?
[02:34] <maverick> it's not that :)
[02:34] <OerHeks> morgan, use additional drivers, so you get updates
[02:34] <maverick> i used to get in full screen
[02:35] <IdleOne> solfijoin #freenode and ask them to send a reset email.
[02:35] <IdleOne> solifugus: ^
[02:35] <maverick> now only half of the screen
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> maverick, see the 3 buttons in the top left corner.
[02:37] <maverick> thanks wilee.. :) solved
[02:37] <Gycklarn> If I want to discuss unity vs cinnamon on ubuntu, is this the place? Or should I go somewhere else, like #ubuntu-offtopic ? I'm still trying to figure out my bearings.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> maverick, no problem.
[02:37] <maverick> it didn't occur to me that we can minimize that too XD
[02:37] <maverick> it's not in windows :P
[02:38] <Denilton_santos> Finalmente Entrei
[02:38] <zester1> Gycklarn: Ill talk custom desktops but im not interested in eather of those ;)
[02:38] <maverick> can any one tell me how to  add my oracle drivers to ubuntu?
[02:38] <Denilton_santos> Kd geovanny?
[02:40] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206068/
[02:40] <maverick> please check this :)
[02:41] <chew> I see no progress in the bar I think measures progress.  I see it saying "copying files" but how do I check to make sure it works?
[02:42] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206068/
[02:42] <chew> (I tried it without installinng then install with programs running alongside)
[02:42] <maverick> please check this ppl :)
[02:42] <L1> I'm writing a shell script = how can I put the output of a command into a variable? I have:   status = $(sudo service mysql status)  echo $status     but it doesn't seem to be working
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> maverick, This might help there is also a ppa for installing the oracle java 7 as well.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:43] <maverick> i have the oracle java :)
[02:43] <maverick> i can run java programs
[02:43] <maverick> but while connecting to DB i get this error
[02:43] <trism> L1: you shouldn't need sudo on: service name status;
[02:43] <Gycklarn> L1, I
[02:43] <Gycklarn> um
[02:44] <Gycklarn> I'd remove the spaces
[02:44] <Gycklarn> surrounding the =
[02:44] <VinnyAtaide> oh cmon, the HDD was already AHCI
[02:44] <L1> trism: Thanks. Gycklarn: That was the issue - working now, thank you very much :)
[02:45] <OerHeks> VinnyAtaide, then i have no explanation why the installer does not see your windows partitions.
[02:46] <maverick> i think i need to add a class path..
[02:46] <VinnyAtaide> haha, I will find brother
[02:46] <VinnyAtaide> It has to do with the Xubuntu I had before installing windows. It changed my HDD forever =p
[02:47] <Nullzero> Hi guys, anyone feel like being tech support for me?
[02:47] <bazhang> Nullzero, ask the channel
[02:48] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206068/
[02:48] <Nullzero> I've got a broadcom wireless  issue.  Everything I'm seeing is talking about drivers, but mine isn't even showing up in the lspci
[02:48] <maverick> anyone?? :)
[02:48] <Nullzero> So i'm not sure where to go from there if I can't even see the hardware
[02:48] <maverick> which broadcomm drivers are you using NullZero
[02:49] <Nullzero> right now none are installed as far as I can see
[02:49] <maverick> post your lspci output
[02:49] <OerHeks> Nullzero, is it a laptop, with a FN key to disable wireless ?
[02:49] <Nullzero> physical slider
[02:49] <maverick> or a hardware key
[02:49] <Nullzero> its in the on position
[02:49] <Nullzero> let me jump on here from the laptop
[02:49] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/   : post lspci o/p here
[02:50] <xcervo> hello guys what is the best ftp client for ubuntu?
[02:50] <peepsalot> how do i configure what happens when i plug in my android phone.  it opens file browser and media player and i don't want either, i just want to charge it
[02:50] <phyrexianslug> @maverick: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8103725/java-lang-classnotfoundexception-when-executing-java-code
[02:50] <tucemiux> anyone seeing flash videos even though the web page is minimized? o.O
[02:50] <bazhang> peepsalot, plug in where
[02:51] <maverick> thanks phyrexianslug
[02:51] <peepsalot> plug in USB to charge it
[02:51] <bazhang> peepsalot, how does this connect to ubuntu support
[02:51] <maverick> Nullzero post your lspci o/p
[02:51] <Gycklarn> peepsalot, I think you do that on the phone?
[02:51] <Nullzero-laptop> i'm trying one second
[02:51] <VinnyAtaide> tucemiux, like creating a new window?
[02:51] <peepsalot> bazhang, i'm plugging into my ubuntu laptop, and ubuntu is opening file browser and rhythmbox
[02:52] <Nullzero-laptop> 00:00.0 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM 
[02:52] <tucemiux> VinnyAtaide, no, i minimize the browser then open up the command prompt and i can see the flash video in the terminal o.O
[02:53] <maverick> all u are getting is ur gfx card o.O
[02:54] <Nullzero> one second it locked up on me
[02:54] <VinnyAtaide> Okay I'm gonna format my pc and install windows first, but how can I assume this isn't gonna happen again? can I have a real format option that will make my hdd really new?
[02:54] <miraj> VinnyAtaide : yes
[02:55] <VinnyAtaide> okay, how is it
[02:55] <miraj> VinnyAtaide : from the linux "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1m count=?"
[02:56] <Nullzero-laptop_> lspci -nn 00:00.0 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02f0] (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 [10de:02fa] (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 [10de:02fe] (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 [10de:02f8] (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Cont
[02:56] <deanfx> Question -- Everytime I am connected to my ubuntu box via VNC, I freeze up alot and Compiz freezes. Any ways of fixing this?
[02:56] <miraj> VinnyAtaide : replace the question marks with appropriate values
[02:56] <Nullzero-laptop_> 00:00.4 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 [10de:02f9] (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02ff] (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 [10de:027f] (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory [0500]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 [10de:027e] (rev a2) 00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: NVIDIA Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge [1
[02:56] <VinnyAtaide> whats the value for count?
[02:56] <miraj> VinnyAtaide : that will make your harddrive really like new
[02:56] <OerHeks> Nullzero-laptop_, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[02:57] <miraj> VinnyAtaide : use a count value of however many megabytes your hardrive is
[02:57] <VinnyAtaide> ok thanks miraj
[02:58] <VinnyAtaide> bye all
[02:58] <Nullzero-laptop_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206083/
[02:59] <Faithful> Hey guys VirtualBox looks real ugly in 12.04.1 Desktop.  The screen draws are terrible
[02:59] <Nullzero-laptop_> No broadcom coming up which is what this latptop uses from all the other pavillion dv6000
[02:59] <Nullzero-laptop_> posts i've been seeing
[02:59] <jamesw> what is overhead of an encrypted home folder? i see my home folder taking up as much space as th e encrypted version, is it as simple as that, the price is that you have to have an encrypted copy of everything? or am i misreading?
[03:00] <Nullzero-laptop_> I found one post from someone who had the same issue but it was never solved.
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> Nullzero-laptop_:whats the default Os on that laptop?
[03:04] <Nullzero-laptop_> Vista
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> Nullzero-laptop_, Here is a 12.04 link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/125529/wireless-doesnt-work-on-a-broadcom-bcm4312
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Nullzero-laptop_:did you install broadcom drivers correclty?
[03:06] <Nullzero-laptop_> There are no drivers installed at all, I don't know which ones to use because it doesn't show up in lspci
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Nullzero-laptop_:try the additional drivers section, or software centre or synaptics
[03:07] <Nullzero-laptop_> All I know is that this laptop normally uses a broadcom wireless card
[03:07] <miraj> must not count as pci, maybe it counts as pcmcia or cardbus?
[03:07] <Nullzero-laptop_> any way I can find out?
[03:07] <miraj> pcmciautils
[03:08] <Nullzero-laptop_> command not found, not part of the standard install?
[03:08] <miraj> I thought it was a standard package
[03:09] <Nullzero-laptop_> yeah it says its installed
[03:12] <Nullzero-laptop_> found it lspcmcia
[03:12] <Nullzero-laptop_> no output
[03:12] <miraj> sorry, it was just an idea
[03:13] <bekor> hi using ubuntu 12.04 gnome classic. some how compiz not fully functional somehow, windows animations  not working anymore
[03:13] <xkill> somehow
[03:14] <Nullzero-laptop_> so that's basically where I am at.  If i had anything in lspci i'm pretty sure I would have had this working, but since its not in there at all I'm out of ideas
[03:15] <bkc_> Nullzero-laptop_: tried lsusb?
[03:15] <miraj> has anyne else with that model got it working with any distro of linux?
[03:15] <Nullzero-laptop_> bkc hub and camera
[03:16] <Nullzero-laptop_> yes, from what i'm reading in the forums everyone else has a broadcom wireless adapter
[03:16] <Nullzero-laptop_> and then they just have to install the correct drivers
[03:16] <xkill> ndis wrapper?
[03:17] <miraj> you said the wireless had a physical switch?
[03:17] <Nullzero-laptop_> Only one thread I saw had someone without anythign in his lspci output and there was no solution on that one
[03:17] <Nullzero-laptop_> yep
[03:17] <Nullzero-laptop_> first thing I checked was to make sure it was in the on position
[03:17] <miraj> what happens if you jiggle the switch a little?
[03:18] <xkill> is the card PnP compliant? is this a super old card? is the cardbus? is the laptop ancient?
[03:18] <Fernest> not a question about ubuntu, but does one know, why I can't send messages to channels like #python and #c++ ?
[03:19] <xkill> are you registered and identified?
[03:19] <bkc_> Fernest: are you registerd with NickServ?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> !register | Fernest
[03:19] <Fernest> This was quick! I love this channel :-) Thanks guys
[03:19] <peepsalot> how do i configure the actions that ubuntu takes when my phone is plugged in over USB
[03:19] <bkc_> peepsalot: udev-rules?
[03:19] <Nullzero-laptop_> laptop isn't ancient, like I said there are a lot of threads with people having driver issues on this laptop but they just needed to correct their drivers, all of them had the card show up in the lspci and it was a broadcom
[03:20] <Nullzero-laptop_> I've cycled the physical switch a few times to see if that was the issue
[03:21] <miraj> is there any chance the power-saving controls has it turned off?
[03:21] <drupin> i am now on the persistence live system
[03:21] <peepsalot> bkc_, i don't see anything related in /etc/udev/rules.d
[03:21] <drupin> i can keep using this?
[03:21] <Nullzero-laptop_> hmm let me check miraj
[03:22] <Nullzero-laptop_> i would have thought even if that were the case it would still see it on the bus
[03:22] <bkc_> peepsalot: nothing there because you havn't put anything there... defaults and so on...
[03:22] <peepsalot> bkc_, rhythmbox automatically opens up, i don't want it to
[03:22] <peepsalot> also nautilus, i don't want anything to open automatically
[03:23] <peepsalot> i actually uninstalled rhytmbox thinking that would stop it.  now vlc opens up
[03:23] <bkc_> peepsalot: that has nothing to do with udev... it's default applications
[03:23] <bkc_> under settings
[03:23] <bitbarron> My Mozilla Thunderbird has started to become unresponsive when I start it up in Ubuntu.  How can I troubleshoot this problem?
[03:24] <miraj> bitbarron : unresponsive in what way(s)?
[03:25] <Nullzero-laptop_> I don't see anythign in the power settings that would point to the wireless
[03:25] <Nullzero-laptop_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206115/
[03:25] <bitbarron> miraj, When I open it, it immediately "hangs", and when I try to quit by clicking the "x", it says it is not responding and asks if I desire to "force quit"
[03:26] <xkill> drupin: you can not re-use disk space. deleting files just gets them out of your face but you dont regain the space
[03:26] <zester1> OMG have you seen the new Redmond Linux Distro!!!!!!!
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> bitbarron, try opening it with the terminal running thunderbird and look for errors
[03:26] <miraj> Nullzero-laptop_ : don't know, it's a mystery. If you have any wifi pc-cards, you could use one of them
[03:27] <bitbarron> miraj, by "hangs", I mean I cannot navigate around the user interface of the program such as move from one email to another, or even open the menus
[03:27] <xkill> it works till you run out of disk space
[03:27] <DracoDanLRPC> how do I set the default runlevel with upstart?
[03:27] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, good idea
[03:27] <drupin> xkill: means once place is blocked so its permanant
[03:27] <peepsalot> bkc_, thanks i found the settings
[03:27] <Nautilus__> anyone familiar with K3b?  How do I make it show hidden files so I can select them?
[03:27] <bkc_> peepsalot: np :)
[03:27] <bkc_> Nautilus__: Alt+.
[03:28] <Nullzero-laptop_> @miraj ok, thanks for the help, I'll have to see if I cna get a usb or pcmcia card
[03:28] <DracoDanLRPC> nevermind
[03:29] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, No errors seem to be coming up in terminal.  Also, the screen dims????
[03:29] <Nullzero-laptop_> exit
[03:29] <xkill> it is very simple to over come the 4GB filesystem limit. use a linux partitioner to partition the drive into a 2GB FAT16 partition and a second ext2 partition as large as you like labeled "casper"  (or "live-rw" if it is debian)
[03:29] <Nautilus__> bkc_: hm, doesnt seem to do it, and I hit refresh after
[03:29] <Nautilus__> bkc_: Is it in the GUI anywhere?
[03:29] <miraj> bitbarron : something must have got corrupted, maybe a virus. mozilla products are bad for that.
[03:29] <bkc_> Nautilus__: 2sec...
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> bitbarron, same look as well? Not sure here really if it was me I would purge it and reinstall, but I keep nothing in my thunderbird.
[03:30] <danmichel> wow, congrats to the folks at Ubuntu. I havent touched Linux in like 5 years. This is amazing
[03:30] <miraj> bitbarron : sylpheed is a pretty good email program ...
[03:30] <danmichel> back in the wobbly windows days
[03:31] <bkc_> Nautilus__: Alt+. works just fine for me... K3b 2.0.2... you have to select the filemanager-part thou
[03:31] <bitbarron> miraj, Really?  Well, what you say is what it seems likely.  I didn't know viruses took hold on mozilla distros running on linux
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> miraj, mozilla products are bad for what?
[03:31] <drupin> xkill: plz i need article on it
[03:31] <xkill> corruption
[03:31] <bkc_> wilee-nilee: memory-leaks... it has more holes than a swiss cheese ...
[03:32] <miraj> mozilla products can be corrupted with specially crafted xml files
[03:32] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, By purge, you simply mean uninstall and reinstall, correct?
[03:32] <Nautilus__> bkc_: huh I just installed this and it's 1.91.0
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> bitbarron, sudo apt-get purge thunderbird   then reinstall
[03:33] <bkc_> Nautilus__: note, that I said <alt>+<dot> as in the key between / and , :)
[03:33] <bkc_> Nautilus__: I'm also assuming you're talking about K3b, the cd/dvd-burner app in KDE :)
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> memory leaks possibly a xml crafted unlikely
[03:34] <Nautilus__> bkc_: I missed the dot!
[03:34] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, Since I am running Thunderbird as IMAP, my emails should all be uneffected, correct?
[03:34] <bkc_> Nautilus__: ;)
[03:34] <Nautilus__> bkc_: that works just fine, thanks!
[03:34] <bkc_> np :)
[03:34] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, By that I mean, I am not deleating all my prior emails.
[03:34] <Nautilus__> wish I could set it as default
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> bitbarron, AS long as they are on the original server no
[03:35] <bitbarron> wilee-nilee, I think that is the case.  It's gmail.
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> bitbarron, I have university address used this way myself.
[03:35] <bkc_> Nautilus__: poor default-value actually :)
[03:36] <Nautilus__> bkc_: nah, if it's off I won't know if I missed something
[03:37] <bkc_> Nautilus__: also... that value is remembered for that directory by the KDE framework... just so you know ;)
[03:37] <miraj> it could be gmail's fault, bad network packets causing tbird to lockup
[03:37] <Nautilus__> bkc_: just the one tho? ugh
[03:38] <bkc_> yes
[03:38] <Nautilus__> bkc_: now I have a symbolic link warning and don't know what to do...4 options :(
[03:38] <bkc_> it's awesome actually :)
[03:38] <bkc_> xD
[03:38] <morgan> what can I do to make the desktop less laggy? D:
[03:38] <bkc_> Nautilus__: you probably want to copy the files then :)
[03:38] <bkc_> morgan: what graphicscard are you using?
[03:38] <blackshirt> morgan, disable some desktop effects
[03:39] <morgan> nvidia gtx 460
[03:39] <morgan> i7 930 @ 4.2 ghz
[03:39] <bkc_> what driver? nouvoue or nvidia?
[03:39] <Nautilus__> bkc_: "Add link to project", I think?
[03:39] <bkc_> morgan: (open source or propeitary)
[03:39] <xkill> dupin; http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/
[03:40] <morgan> proprietary
[03:40] <blackshirt> i thinks, nvidia user gets more trouble compared to intel or ati one
[03:40] <bkc_> Nautilus__: I'm guesing not... that will keep it as a link...
[03:40] <morgan> bkc_, the recommended one
[03:40] <bkc_> morgan: then turn of a few (or many) desktop effects...
[03:40] <morgan> bkc_, ok I'll try that. where/how do I do that please?
[03:41] <bkc_> blackshirt: because Ubuntu havn't up'ed the driver-version yet to >302 -.-
[03:41] <bkc_> >304*
[03:41] <blackshirt> morgan, maybe related to compiz effect
[03:41] <Nautilus__> bkc_: Options: "Follow link now" then? Actually I just have 2 choices, then rest of the 4 add "Always" to the action
[03:41] <blackshirt> bkc_ you are right
[03:41] <morgan> I'd like to turn off all effects etc
[03:41] <bkc_> morgan: I'm guessing you're using unity? then I have no idea :/
[03:42] <bkc_> Nautilus__: yes, that one :)
[03:42] <morgan> correct
[03:42] <blackshirt> morgan, maybe better and test them step by step
[03:42] <bkc_> I'd turn of compiz entirely then, if you're not gonna use it anyway :)
[03:42] <Pedrolito> I'm trying to enable the html 5 mode in youtube, but youtube claims that the firefox 15 in ubuntu doesn't have WebM.  Is that correct?
[03:42] <blackshirt> i mean,add some effect step by step
[03:42] <Nautilus__> bkc_: Thanks!  Looks like it's going now
[03:42] <morgan> i dono what compiz is D: how do I turn it off and on to see the difference
[03:43] <bkc_> Pedrolito: that major BS ^^
[03:43] <bkc_> !compiz
[03:43] <morgan> btw I've been windows user for last 10 years, I've been on Ubunutu for about 5 days now
[03:43] <Pedrolito> bkc, does that mean that the html 5 mode should work without any modifications?
[03:44] <bkc_> morgan: try this in a terminal: metacity --replace
[03:44] <blackshirt> morgan, forf firts time using, you should familiarize your new environment :d
[03:44] <bkc_> Pedrolito: yes
[03:44] <morgan> been trying but I have no idea what stuff is called lol took me a while to fighre out dnome was the GUI
[03:44] <xangua> bkc_: morgan do not
[03:44] <morgan> gnome*
[03:45] <xangua> morgan: bkc_ if you don't want to use compiz log out and select unity 2d in the little ubuntu icon next to your username
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> xangua, good catch I saw that and said what?
[03:45] <morgan> I don't see unity 2d
[03:45] <bkc_> morgan: I'd goto http://wiki.ubuntu.org and http://help.ubuntu.org and pay good attention at the Beginners-section :)
[03:46] <bkc_> xangua: what's wrong with metacity --replace?
[03:46] <roothorick> I'm having an issue where some font glyphs get corrupted when I resume from suspending to RAM. Where do I even begin on this?
[03:46] <blackshirt> morgan what version ubuntu are yoy
[03:46] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: I had trouble getting the YouTube player embedded on a page as HTML5, is that what you're doing?  Have a good reference URL?
[03:46] <blackshirt> morgan what version ubuntu are you  usi ng?
[03:46] <bkc_> xangua: refering to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Window_Managers_.26_The_Commands_To_Start_Them_Manually
[03:46] <morgan> 12.04
[03:46] <blackshirt> Morgan, then you arw using unity desktop
[03:47] <Pedrolito> Nautilus__,  yes, I'm trying to have youtube play the videos in html 5 mode, but it doesn't work, I always get the flash mode
[03:47] <morgan> I'm looking in synaptic and unity 2d is not installed
[03:47] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: that was my problem :(
[03:47] <Pedrolito> Nautilus__, how did you fix it?
[03:47] <morgan> is unity like gnome? or they are different?
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> bkc_, unity is a plugin in compiz.
[03:47] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: I haven't.  And it's not just firefox
[03:47] <blackshirt> morgan, they are different thing
[03:48] <bkc_> Pedrolito: actually, html5 is only available to a sub-section of all videos... try another one :)
[03:48] <Nautilus__> bkc_: really? maaaan
[03:48] <bkc_> wilee-nilee: ooh... didn't know that... stoped using ubuntu when they switched to unity ^^
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> bkc_, hehe I used it for awhile. ;)
[03:49] <bkc_> Nautilus__: Pedrolito: however they pop the number by a few thousand each day :)
[03:49] <bkc_> wilee-nilee: I said "s**** this, I'm moving to KDE..." and then "s**** this, I'm moving to Arch" ^^
[03:49] <morgan> as long as I can use Synapse I don't care about unity or launcher or dash or any of that stuff
[03:50] <Nautilus__> bkc_: what about apple users with the many NO Flash devices?
[03:50] <miraj> morgan, you can try other window managers in ubuntu
[03:50] <xangua> !language | bkc_
[03:50] <morgan> miraj, which would you say is the 'lightest'
[03:50] <bkc_> Nautilus__: guess why youtube are moving towards html5 & webm :)
[03:50] <bkc_> xangua: hence the censuring...
[03:51] <xkill> xfce
[03:51] <miraj> morgan, the absolute lightest windows manager would be twm, but you probably wouldn't want to use it
[03:51] <Nautilus__> bkc_: thanks, I've been wondering about that for months
[03:51] <bkc_> xangua: or were you refering to Arch ;)
[03:51] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: we may be out of luck until YT does their thing
[03:52] <miraj> morgan, somewhere in the middle are compromise solutions, like xfce or afterstep
[03:52] <morgan> oh I think I tried xfce in xubuntu and hated it, it was super choppy and laggy for me
[03:52] <Pedrolito> bkc_, you're right, I found a video which allows to use the html5 player, and it's working fine
[03:52] <bkc_> :)
[03:53] <miraj> morgan, don't know what xfce would be choppy and laggy, ubless you've got hw problems. it's got no eye candy extras really
[03:53] <bkc_> morgan: how can xfce be laggy and unity not? ... that is physically impossible...
[03:53] <xkill> xfce on ubuntu w/ USB flash 4 hard drive = smooth and nice  (weird thing though, other laptop that is 10 years older, runs faster. faster USB flashdrive maybe?)
[03:53] <Nautilus__> is there a way to tell which ones work, without embedding them one by one? Some field on the YT page for the video?
[03:54] <nexusguy59> you around shaladore?
[03:54] <morgan> I dono but video and stuff etc was super choppy
[03:54] <bkc_> Nautilus__: not to my knowledge no... havn't looked into it :)
[03:54] <jamesw> what is overhead of an encrypted home folder? i see my home folder taking up as much space as th e encrypted version, is it as simple as that, the price is that you have to have an encrypted copy of everything? or am i misreading?
[03:55] <Pedrolito> morgan, xfce is super smooth for me, it makes my netbook usable, unity was wayyyyyy to slow
[03:55] <bkc_> morgan: bad configuration then... or just not installed the correct nvidia-driver :)
[03:55] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: what specific YT video did you fid that does HTML5, and how did you find it?
[03:55] <Nautilus__> find*
[03:55] <xkill> the overhead depends on the encryption strength and if it's padded
[03:55] <Pedrolito> Nautilus__, I search for the 'html5' keyword in youtube, and the first video I tried used the html5 mode
[03:56] <xkill> what alg?
[03:56] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: ok, heh
[03:56] <morgan> everything was default
[03:56] <Pedrolito> Nautilus__,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzPxo7Y6JyA to be specific
[03:56] <Nautilus__> ty!
[03:57] <bkc_> morgan: then there's your problem... you need to install the nvidia-driver :)
[03:57] <morgan> that was definitely installed
[03:57] <xkill> thats like bitching about progman or explorer when you where running on standard vga driver
[03:58] <jamesw> xkill how can i find the alg?
[03:58] <morgan> I'm not that noob D:
[03:59] <machiolat> what does it mean if i'm superuser and yet an .sh script won't run, i.e. permission denied
[03:59] <jamesw> whatever was default alg xkill
[03:59] <machiolat> i've tried su, su sudo, sudo
[03:59] <machiolat> changed permissions and everything and still get permission denied
[03:59] <xkill> then it would be very small international 56bit non padded encryption
[03:59] <WeThePeople> machiolat, try sudo i
[03:59] <WeThePeople> sudo -i
[04:00] <Nautilus__> Pedrolito: Interesting, I'm on that video's YT page and it's embedded via flash.  I wonder if they show Flash by default if the browser supports both? (I'm in FF).   bkc_: any thoughts there?
[04:00] <xkill> idk what ubuntu uses by default but i assume its about as easy to crack as wep
[04:00] <machiolat> with sudo -i it says no such file or directory now? wtf...
[04:01] <machiolat> madness
[04:01] <machiolat> after telling me permissoin denied for a hundred other things
[04:01] <WeThePeople> machiolat, reset terminal and type sudo -i
[04:02] <bkc_> Nautilus__: If you're in the beta-program for html5 then no, it should default to html5/webm and revert to flash if and only if the video isn't converted to webm yet...
[04:02] <machiolat> -bash: ./Fritzing: No such file or directory
[04:02] <machiolat> again
[04:02] <machiolat> and yet, there it is
[04:02] <WeThePeople> sudo -i isnt a file or dir.
[04:03] <bkc_> machiolat: paste the output of "ls -alF"
[04:03] <Dr_willis> You are spelling it right? ;)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> case matters.
[04:04] <Pedrolito> Nautilus, maybe you're using an extension that changes your user agent string.  That is my case, and I had to make it send my real user agent to youtube for html5 to work
[04:04] <machiolat> http://bpaste.net/show/xrZrqxSC3Sghz3d8eYwS/
[04:04] <machiolat> yeah i'm using Tab, so it's spelling it for me
[04:04] <Dr_willis> machiolat,  try 'file thatfilename'
[04:04] <Dr_willis> if its a 32bit binary.. and you are on a 64bit os...
[04:05] <Nautilus__> bkc_: 10-4, thanks _again_
[04:05] <Dr_willis> or visa-versa
[04:05] <bkc_> Pedrolito: has nothing to do with user-agent... it's a javascript-thingy that checks for html5-support
[04:05] <machiolat> this is the 64 bit package, but ok... let me check
[04:05] <machiolat> and i've tried with the 32 as well
[04:05] <machiolat> same issues
[04:05] <Pedrolito> bkc, I'm just saying that on my firefox, I'm not getting the html 5 if I block my user agent
[04:06] <machiolat> Fritzing: POSIX shell script text executable
[04:06] <Dr_willis> also you said it was a 'sh' script. so whats the first few lines.. the #!/bin/whatever  lines
[04:06] <bkc_> machiolat: and you do have the #!/bin/bash line at the top... right...
[04:06] <bkc_> and not just #!/bash...
[04:06] <WeThePeople> machiolat, you cd into a dir. >>
[04:06] <WeThePeople> fritzing-0.7.7b.linux.AMD64
[04:06] <Pedrolito> so maybe Nautilus has some kind of interfering extension such as noscript or the like
[04:07] <machiolat> contents of the actual script http://bpaste.net/show/rbNd7vFLP0W5f384ZkVf/
[04:07] <bkc_> machiolat: change the first line to #!/bin/bash instead...
[04:07] <machiolat> ok
[04:07] <bekor> compiz windows animations not working any suggestions?
[04:07] <bkc_> also... what does that script accomplish? o.O
[04:07] <Dr_willis> ive also seen where you get weird messages like this when your bash script encoding/end of lines get messed up with  the dos encoding..
[04:08] <bkc_> ^ true
[04:08] <Dr_willis> had a script once someone edited in notepad.exe that got extra cr/lfs on the end.
[04:08] <bkc_> and a break-line at the end of the file :)
[04:08] <Dr_willis> took us forever to figure it out.
[04:08] <bkc_> hexedit <3
[04:08] <xkill> its not a windows fs is it?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I think 'geany' and 'fte' can also show the whitespace/eol characters
[04:08] <WeThePeople> bekor, do you know how to access compiz gui
[04:09] <Dr_willis> night all.
[04:09] <bkc_> xkill: has nothing to do with fs...
[04:09] <machiolat> -bash: ./Fritzing: No such file or directory , :-( .. same thing
[04:09] <lime> Does anyone know of good techniques to link pdfs with notes/files that may be associated with them.  I'm running into the issue, that if I create folders to put all my hundreds of pdf into, or start trying to organize them become unmanagable.
[04:09] <bekor> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO DO THAT?
[04:09] <machiolat> the install instructions for this program are basically just extract and run from CL or double click on filename in folder, and i've tried both
[04:09] <blackshirt> machiolat, what are you try to search?
[04:10] <WeThePeople> bekor, idk 12.04
[04:10] <lime> Maybe a way to link files together?
[04:10] <machiolat> when i double click nothing happens
[04:10] <bekor> what is idk?
[04:10] <WeThePeople> i dont know
[04:10] <bekor> oh
[04:10] <WeThePeople> in the terminal type compiz
[04:10] <WeThePeople> orth hud
[04:11] <WeThePeople> or the
[04:11] <blackshirt> machiolat, this is not windows :d
[04:13] <xkill> right click on the file -> properties -> mark as executable -> apply & ok  -> then try clicking
[04:14] <WeThePeople> machiolat, in Lucid its under apperence
[04:14] <nicekiwi_> how do I share files and folders between 2 computers on the same network in ubuntu?
[04:16] <bkc_> !samba > nicekiwi_
[04:20] <lime> Anyone have some smart techniques to organize files in ubuntu?
[04:20] <lime> Oh maybe index files so there are more quickly and easily searchable?
[04:21] <nicekiwi_> how do I share files and folders between 2 computers on the same network in ubuntu? NOT WINDOWS NETWORKS
[04:21] <m4k4r0n3> hi
[04:21] <xkill> samba
[04:21] <bkc_> !nfs | nicekiwi_
[04:21] <m4k4r0n3> Como instalo o Unity no Xubuntu?
[04:21] <bkc_> !sshfs | nicekiwi_
[04:21] <ricochet> I'm trying to install google-earth-stable on 12.04 amd64.  searching google shows tons of reports of problems with ia32-libs.  anyone familiar with the issue?  also lsb-core says its dependencies don't want to install.
[04:22] <bkc_> !es | m4k4r0n3
[04:22] <xkill> sudo apt-get install unity
[04:22] <bkc_> I just guessing here thou...
[04:23] <sin_tax> Is there an easy way to aggregate/concatenate several folders into a single read only samba (or other?) share? For example I might have /media/movies/ on two disks, but I would like to share /media/ as one share that aggregates those two disks /media/ folders together.
[04:23] <bkc_> xkill: actually... ubuntu-desktop...
[04:23] <m4k4r0n3> yeah...
[04:23] <xkill> really? theres a seperate unity package
[04:23] <m4k4r0n3> ubuntu-destop its better.
[04:23] <xkill> k
[04:23] <nicekiwi_> bkc_: seems a lil ultra complicated..
[04:23] <xkill> its linux
[04:23] <m4k4r0n3> what you prefered? Ubuntu or Xubuntu??
[04:23] <bkc_> xkill: unity-package is unity *only* ... ubuntu-desktop has nautilus or whatnot and the rest...
[04:24] <gnar_Killer13> Hi guys I need help with my wlan0
[04:24] <bkc_> nicekiwi_: it really isn't...
[04:24] <gnar_Killer13> not showing up on ifconfig
[04:24] <xkill> xubuntu cuz im homeless and dont have nice computers
[04:24] <bkc_> m4k4r0n3: I prefer ArchLinux... but it's just a preference...
[04:24] <WeThePeople> gnar_killer13, type lshw in terminal and copy paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <m4k4r0n3> ArchLinux ? I never use Arch.
[04:25] <m4k4r0n3> its complicated.
[04:25] <bkc_> It isn't... if you know linux like your back-pocket ^^
[04:25] <m4k4r0n3> xubuntu is very sad. kkk
[04:25] <m4k4r0n3> dont have effects. =(
[04:25] <xkill> thats not what it's for
[04:25] <bkc_> effects... -.-
[04:26] <Janos> sin_tax, nothing exactly like that comes to mind, but how about you create /shared and create two links under it to each of your media dir and then share the /shared directory with you favorite file sharing protocol
[04:26] <xkill> xfce is a lightweight no thrills run on anything windows manager
[04:26] <bkc_> sin_tax: just share /media? o.O
[04:26] <m4k4r0n3> i think what Unity is a better xfce.
[04:26] <sin_tax> Janos, that would sort of work, but I have similar subfolders in many of the drives so I would still have to 'hunt' for the content I want unless I know ahead of time which drive it is on
[04:27] <jessers> Hello guys
[04:27] <sin_tax> bkc_, because I have a /media folder on multiple drives
[04:27] <xkill> untill you try running unity on a pentium I
[04:27] <Janos> sin_tax, sorry, didn't quite get that last part
[04:28] <m4k4r0n3> but my computer is a intel i3, ram memory 4gb and memory hard disk  tb
[04:28] <jessers> I need help with my wlan0 not showing up on ifconfi
[04:28] <m4k4r0n3> its a configuration good. really good. kkk
[04:28] <david> what is the best way to install gnome 3 in ubuntu 12.04 without breaking anything?
[04:28] <jessers> Yet. I am able to connect to wirless networks
[04:28] <xkill> then why are you using xfce if you have a nice comp and what eye candy? thats not what it's for!
[04:28] <bkc_> david: sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:28] <xkill> want*
[04:29] <bkc_> jessers: don't use ifconfig... use ip
[04:29] <WeThePeople> iw
[04:29] <bkc_> jessers: also, try ip addr show wlan0
[04:29] <Janos> sin_tax, you still have to figure out what you want to share no matter what
[04:29] <david> in this command what does gnome represent. Someone else told me sudo apt-get install gnome-shell so I am a little confuse
[04:29] <WeThePeople> ip no work in linux
[04:29] <m4k4r0n3> Correct. i go to the install ubuntu-desktop
[04:29] <m4k4r0n3> and now, i very happy. hAhaehea
[04:29] <jessers> bkc_ ok let me try it
[04:29] <jessers> Thanks
[04:30] <bkc_> WeThePeople: it does... ip addr show, ip link etc...
[04:30] <WeThePeople> ipconfig
[04:30] <bkc_> WeThePeople: wasn't referring to ipconfig... -.-
[04:30] <WeThePeople> yeah i know
[04:30] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to build a C++ code and link it against /usr/lib/libmysqlpp.so but always get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llibmysqlpp error I'm using -L /usr/lib -llibmysqlpp does this have something to do with ldconfig?
[04:30] <bkc_> ifconfig is depricated and should be killed with fire imho...
[04:31] <xkill> david; "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"  will download and install the Gnome window manager (Ubuntu uses the Unity window manager by default)
[04:31] <sin_tax> Janos, basically, I have multiple drives (3 now, more later) with a similar /media structure.  So disk 01 might have /media/television/show_a and disk 02 might have /media/television/show_b and I would like to have a 'concatenated / aggregated' /media share that shows both subfolders from disk 01 and 02... Otherwise I have to guess which disk (or sub-share if I do a /allmedia share which has all my disks in it) the content is on...
[04:31] <bkc_> MeXTuX: it's -lmysqlpp
[04:31] <bkc_> sin_tax: glhf ^^
[04:32] <david> so I want to try gnome 3. which command do I use
[04:32] <david> ?
[04:32] <xkill> press the Tab key to show your options
[04:32] <bkc_> david: is it installed?
[04:32] <m4k4r0n3> thanks guy!!
[04:32] <sin_tax> Thanks bkc_ ^__^;   It seems greyhole is close to what I want but I don't care about redundancy
[04:32] <xkill> Tab key autocompletes or presents options
[04:32] <david> how can I check?
[04:33] <david> im on Ubuntu 12.04
[04:33] <bkc_> david: sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:33] <bkc_> it should either install it, or tell you it's already installed
[04:33] <xkill> in that shell while you are typing the command gnome-
[04:33] <jessers_> bkc_  I got this
[04:33] <jessers_> o command 'ipconfig' found, did you mean:
[04:33] <jessers_>  Command 'tpconfig' from package 'tpconfig' (universe)
[04:33] <jessers_>  Command 'iwconfig' from package 'wireless-tools' (main)
[04:33] <jessers_>  Command 'ifconfig' from package 'net-tools' (main)
[04:33] <jessers_> ipconfig: command not found
[04:33] <Janos> sin_tax, raid0 or raid5 might be more what you need
[04:33] <m4k4r0n3> gnome is better what unity?
[04:34] <bkc_> david: if it's already installed you can select it at the login-screen :)
[04:34] <jessers_> This is my output fro ifconfig :
[04:34] <jessers_> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 78:ac:c0:cc:14:8b
[04:34] <jessers_>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:34] <jessers_>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:34] <jessers_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[04:34] <jessers_>           Interrupt:44 Base address:0xc000
[04:34] <jessers_> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ac:81:12:41:5b:9a
[04:34] <jessers_>           inet addr:192.168.1.69  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[04:34] <jessers_>           inet6 addr: fe80::ae81:12ff:fe41:5b9a/64 Scope:Link
[04:34] <xkill> i like KDE better than Gnome
[04:34] <jessers_>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX packets:196436 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1457926
[04:34] <bkc_> m4k4r0n3: unity is more effects than gnome
[04:34] <jessers_>           TX packets:136242 errors:62 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:34] <jessers_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX bytes:216281810 (216.2 MB)  TX bytes:20388219 (20.3 MB)
[04:34] <jessers_>           Interrupt:16
[04:34] <bkc_> !enter | jess
[04:34] <jessers_> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[04:34] <bkc_> !enter | jessers_
[04:34] <jessers_>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[04:34] <jessers_>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[04:34] <xkill> KDE and Unity has the most effects
[04:34] <jessers_>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX packets:6748 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:34] <bkc_> jessers_: PASTEBIN!
[04:34] <jessers_>           TX packets:6748 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:34] <jessers_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[04:34] <jessers_>           RX bytes:664594 (664.5 KB)  TX bytes:664594 (664.5 KB)
[04:34] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:34] <jessers_> No signs of wlan0 , yet I am connected wirelessly
[04:34] <jessers_> Sorry
[04:35] <sin_tax> Janos, yeah, that would do it but I have a fear of catastrophic data loss in the case of losing some drives in a RAID array.  And it is difficult to grow the array by adding drives with some RAID solutions.  Thanks for you help though
[04:35] <bkc_> anything more than 2 lines... paste it on a pastebin-service -.-
[04:35] <WeThePeople> jessers_, use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <WeThePeople> no flood bots, hmm
[04:35] <bkc_> jessers_: it's there... eth1
[04:36] <jessers_> cool!  thanks bkc_
[04:36] <bkc_> jessers_: iwconfig should tell you the same...
[04:36] <jessers_> iwconfig  output this : lo        no wireless extensions.
[04:36] <Pinkamena_D> hi guys
[04:37] <jessers_> I have a network adapter and a wireless network adapter
[04:37] <bkc_> jessers_: iwconfig should also say something about eth0 and eth1...
[04:37] <MeXTuX> bkc_: thank you
[04:37] <bkc_> Pinkamena_D: o/
[04:37] <bkc_> MeXTuX: np
[04:37] <jessers_> I'm connected wirelessly though   : /
[04:37] <Janos> sin_tax, all linux raid solutions are easy to grow, and if you are worried about data loss, the more reason to use a raid configuration, just make sure you don't use raid 0 for that
[04:37] <M4k4r0n3> Hi...
[04:38] <M4k4r0n3> Im back using Unity.
[04:38] <M4k4r0n3> who?
[04:39] <sin_tax> Janos, is it possible to create an array (using mdadm or whatever) without obliterating the data already on the drives?
[04:39] <Janos> sin_tax, yes sir
[04:39] <M4k4r0n3> whats better language of programation: php or python?
[04:39] <xkill> #web
[04:39] <jessers_> Does anyone know if there a way for UBUNTU to download and install the drivers for my wireless adapter through terminal?
[04:40] <bkc_> M4k4r0n3: not related to ubuntu
[04:40] <Pinkamena_D> i know the chances anyone has done this here are rather slim, but anyway, i am trying to install halo (the first one) on ubuntu. I got wineinstalled and followed the online guides fully. I have seen some other people are having the same problem i am, but no one seems sto have found a solution for them
[04:40] <bkc_> jessers_: not that I know of
[04:40] <Pinkamena_D> the problem is that after you start the programs and the intro videos pass, you can hear the background muchs but its just a black screen
[04:40] <Janos> sin_tax, also, i don't know what software do you use to play your media, but i know that xbmc can create a library to which you can just add file system paths and it will scan them, every now and then for changes, this keeps everything in one place even if you have files all over the file system
[04:40] <Pinkamena_D> i am guessing only some people have it because its something with the video driver or video card
[04:41] <bkc_> Pinkamena_D: you need to install DX-support through winetricks
[04:41] <Janos> sin_tax, i'm pretty sure other media players have this functionality
[04:41] <bkc_> and select it in winecfg
[04:41] <jessers_> It is weird it all started after I partitioned my HDD for a dual-boot with   Ubuntu \ Windows
[04:41] <M4k4r0n3> guys
[04:41] <sin_tax> Janos, I use Plex, which does the same, but I have been having some issues with it so was looking for a fall-back plan that just allows me to browse media via a samba share
[04:41] <M4k4r0n3> i want to program in python on Ubuntu
[04:41] <M4k4r0n3> anyone know any really good IDE?
[04:41] <joejack> wifi not connecting. ifconfig shows only inet6 address but no intet addr does that help to debug the problem?
[04:41] <bkc_> M4k4r0n3: sudo apt-get install python
[04:42] <M4k4r0n3> python 3.2?
[04:42] <glassresistor> have this weird problem with bluetooth headset in 10.04 but can't think of a way to google for it
[04:42] <Pinkamena_D> do you know where that "dx support" option is located offhand?
[04:42] <bkc_> M4k4r0n3: yes
[04:42] <M4k4r0n3> thanks
[04:42] <jessers_> joejack i f you do ifconfig on terminal do you see a wlan listing?
[04:43] <Janos> sin_tax, well then you have at least 3 options, raid, fix your current media player or get a new one that :)
[04:43] <bkc_> Pinkamena_D: not of the top of my head no, but it's under install programs... give me a sec and I'll have a look
[04:43] <xkill> sudo apt-get install bluefish
[04:43] <M4k4r0n3> how to respond like you?
[04:43] <joejack> yeah wlan0 that is the listing that is not showing a inet addr just an inet6 addr
[04:44] <glassresistor> basically whenever I switch the program using sound saw going from hulu to youtube or just changing pages or changing the sound/movie im watching the A2DP high fedelity sound stars clipping and sounding bad..
[04:44] <joejack> jessers_ that comment was for you
[04:44] <sin_tax> Janos, thanks again =]
[04:44] <bkc_> joejack: the inet6-address is probably the default address...
[04:44] <glassresistor> ... but if i toggle to hsp then back to a2dp it works great
[04:44] <jessers_> Try this joejack go to Terminal & type : dhclient eth0
[04:45] <glassresistor> anyone have any ideas? i've noticed similar problems with multicast and pulse audio
[04:46] <jessers_> It is the same as ipconfig/ renew in Windows OS
[04:46] <jessers_> Did it work?
[04:46] <Janos> sin_tax, just one piece of advice, if you decide to go with raid, try to simulate the procedure on a VM first, wrong step here and you loose you data :P
[04:46] <joejack> jessers_ it came back operation not permitted
[04:46] <bkc_> Pinkamena_D: winetricks -> Select the default wine-prefix -> Install a Windows DLL or component -> dx<something>
[04:46] <glassresistor> so bluetooth audio works but i have to toggle the sound between each track change, any ideas?
[04:46] <jessers_> Try it as root
[04:46] <jessers_> sudo dhclient eth0
[04:47] <Pinkamena_D> thank you very much, i will try it out now
[04:47] <joejack> ok true haha
[04:48] <joejack> jessers_ it seems to be just hanging now
[04:48] <glassresistor> its it pulseaudio or the bluetooth drivers I should be looking at?
[04:49] <joejack> yeah jessers_ that command is just hanging
[04:49] <zed_> hi I am using kubuntu 12.04 on this laptop and >I am having problems with the wireless
[04:49] <jessers_> So it did not renew your address
[04:49] <zed_> there is no network manager app on the taskbar, and I can't find it in the menus
[04:49] <jessers_> Hi zed_
[04:49] <zed_> hey jessers_
[04:49] <jessers_> Welcome to the club!!  LOL
[04:50] <zed_> why is this a common problem ?
[04:50] <zed_> there is no icon or app anywhere for accessing the net
[04:50] <joejack> jessers_ no ifconfig still only shows an inet6 addr for wlan0
[04:50] <vkas> does anybody have an idea about this weird problem -  working in gnome-classic session and had a panel in the right side of the screen which i deleted. now i cannot reach in the area that was covered by the panel. the area is kind of cut-off from the desktop - even on the login screen. screenshot of the whole screen also omits the area
[04:50] <jessers_> I don't know man...my netbook was working fine and I connect wirelessly yet my wireless adapter doesn't show up on terminal
[04:51] <Pinkamena_D> theirs a whole bunch of d3dx9 and d3dx10 ones
[04:51] <jessers_> ok hang on joejack
[04:51] <joejack> aight
[04:51] <Pinkamena_D> ill start with a generic dx9...
[04:52] <jessers_> zed_ so if you are already connected to a network all you need is a browser, correct?
[04:53] <jessers_> joejack , let's try flushing your DNS cache
[04:53] <jessers_> type this on terminal :  /etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart
[04:53] <glassresistor> is anyone using bluetooth headsets without the problem?
[04:56] <joejack> jessers_  it says no such file or directory
[04:58] <joejack> jessers_ what now
[04:59] <jessers_> I'm searching
[05:01] <jessers_> joejack try this :  sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[05:02] <joejack> ok
[05:03] <jessers_> So nothing seems to happen but we cleared your DNS cache
[05:03] <jessers_> Now try restarting your wireless adapter, porfavor
[05:04] <joejack> jessers_ ok did the command and still nothing
[05:04] <Janos> joejack, sorry, what's the issue again ?
[05:04] <joejack> my wifi is not connecting and ifconfig does not  show in inet addr for wlan0
[05:05] <Janos> joejack, network manager working ?
[05:05] <david> in trying to install gnome3 i get an error: Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:05] <david>  man-db
[05:05] <david> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:05] <david> what does this mean
[05:05] <david> ?
[05:05] <joejack> Janos yeah it shows all the available wifi etc
[05:06] <Janos> joejack, paste the output of 'sudo dhclient wlan0' somewhere please
[05:06] <joejack> Janos it is flaky too, sometime the wifi works for a while, then it stops for a while, right now it is not working of course
[05:06] <duckDuckGoose> hey all, I am trying to create a freenas VM on a ubuntu server install (12.04) with virt-manager, when I specify eth0 for the shared device (bridge) I get this error: Unable to complete install: 'Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported'
[05:06] <duckDuckGoose> any help?
[05:06] <joejack> Janos ok
[05:06] <kermoo> joejack, paste the output of 'sudo dhclient wlan0' somewhere please
[05:06] <kermoo> Janos it is flaky too, sometime the wifi works for a while, then it stops for a while, right now it is not working of course
[05:08] <kermoo> hey all, I am trying to create a freenas VM on a ubuntu server install (12.04) with virt-manager, when I specify eth0 for the shared device (bridge) I get this error: Unable to complete install: 'Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported'
[05:08] <twig> during installation scratches heard, no inpur response, so what can I do
[05:08] <twig> INPUT
[05:08] <joejack> kermoo and Janos that command is just hanging
[05:08] <Janos> joejack, no output at all ?
[05:09] <kermoo> any help?
[05:09] <kermoo> Janos ok
[05:09] <joejack> Janos just hanging i do not get the promp back gotta crl C it
[05:09] <jessers_> What about this one  guys?  sudo lshw -C network
[05:09] <jessers_>   
[05:09] <Janos> joejack, iwconfig wlan0
[05:10] <joejack> Janos ok did that command
[05:10] <joejack> it does not come back with much
[05:10] <joejack> what do you want to know about its response
[05:10] <twig> ubuntu turned my computer into a doorstop
[05:11] <drupin> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1206194/ i am not able to update
[05:11] <evilytwisted> Hi, my friend has a 64 bit pc, it is a laptop curently we are trying to get rid of linux and switch back to windows... IS it possible to install windows as 32 bit.. then upgrade it to 64 bit later?
[05:11] <jessers_> twig what type of install you used?
[05:11] <Janos> joejack, ESSID, Mode, Access Point ?
[05:11] <twig> dvd edubuntu
[05:11] <jessers_> evilytwisted you can only install Win 64 bit if the processor support x64 OS
[05:12] <IdleOne> evilytwisted: Windows support in ##windows
[05:12] <jessers_> Did you format the HDD ?
[05:12] <joejack> Janos ESSID:off/any
[05:12] <drupin> evilytwisted: no you cannot both 32bit and 64bit are diff architecture
[05:12] <twig> i got it going and then i come back, no response, going to check again for further inights perhaps
[05:12] <joejack> Janos Mode: Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx=Power=20 dBm
[05:12] <jessers_> Your install is stuck, right? Can you tell me at which point?
[05:13] <joejack> Janos what now
[05:13] <Pinkamena_D> well i installed everything possible directx related but still no luck
[05:13] <mactruck> does dual display still not work on Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:14] <jessers_> joejack I forgot to ask you a question, are you able to connect wirelessly without any issues using other devices?
[05:14] <cloudy_nz> mactruck: I know of 2 people who have had persistent dual-monitor problems in Unity
[05:14] <black_13_> what does hdmedia mean when related to a preseed file?
[05:14] <joejack> jessers_ yes or example right now I am using my mac
[05:14] <duckDuckGoose> hey all, I am trying to create a freenas VM on a ubuntu server install (12.04) with virt-manager, when I specify eth0 for the shared device (bridge) I get this error: Unable to complete install: 'Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported' anyone familiar with proper bridge setup?
[05:15] <mactruck> lame, yeah I can't get it to work
[05:15] <Janos> joejack, iwlist wlan0 scan should show the available access points, is this correct ?
[05:15] <cloudy_nz> mactruck: what we fixed it with was eventually a whole new PC with different graphics card, etc.
[05:15] <Janos> joejack, sudo that
[05:16] <cloudy_nz> for me, however, the dual-monitor freezing went away after several weeks of ubuntu updates
[05:17] <twig> i didi not format the hard drive disk instead i wanted edubuntu & slackware together on the same disc.  i have run the procedure for installing over and over and i just have it overwrite and install over the same partition
[05:17] <twig> I reinitialized the installation procedure
[05:17] <twig> brb
[05:17] <jessers_> ok
[05:17] <kermoo> ok
[05:18] <Janos> joejack, does sudo iwlist wlan0 scan shows the available access points including the one to want to connect to ?
[05:18] <kermoo> joejack, does sudo iwlist wlan0 scan shows the available access points including the one to want to connect to ?
[05:18] <jessers_> joejack I looked in an Ubuntu forum and found this :
[05:18] <kermoo> joejack I looked in an Ubuntu forum and found this :
[05:18] <jessers_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/149411/iwconfig-usage-for-wep-access-point
[05:18] <kermoo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/149411/iwconfig-usage-for-wep-access-point
[05:19] <jessers_> lol
[05:19] <kermoo> lol
[05:19] <jessers_> omg
[05:19] <kermoo> omg
[05:19] <jessers_> damn it
[05:19] <kermoo> damn it
[05:20] <jessers_> o_O
[05:20] <kermoo> o_O
[05:20] <nikozzzzzz> o.o
[05:20] <kermoo> o.o
[05:20] <mactruck> cloudy_nz: lame... my mobo doesn't have built in video card
[05:20] <kermoo> cloudy_nz: lame... my mobo doesn't have built in video card
[05:20] <evilytwisted> Kermoo..
[05:20] <kermoo> Kermoo..
[05:20] <jessers_> x_X
[05:20] <kermoo> x_X
[05:20] <nikozzzzzz> anger misery your blood belongs to me!
[05:20] <evilytwisted> quit! lol
[05:20] <kermoo> anger misery your blood belongs to me!
[05:20] <kermoo> quit! lol
[05:20] <NeoNiks> leave #ubuntu
[05:20] <kermoo> leave #ubuntu
[05:21] <joejack> Janos the iwlist command returns unknown command
[05:21] <kermoo> Janos the iwlist command returns unknown command
[05:21] <cloudy_nz> wtf
[05:21] <kermoo> wtf
[05:21] <jessers_> T_T
[05:21] <kermoo> T_T
[05:21] <evilytwisted> wheres the op when we need one?!
[05:21] <joejack> well it said unknown command for the wlan0 part
[05:21] <kermoo> wheres the op when we need one?!
[05:21] <kermoo> well it said unknown command for the wlan0 part
[05:21] <jessers_> aaaaaah
[05:21] <kermoo> aaaaaah
[05:21] <mactruck> he is fast
[05:21] <kermoo> he is fast
[05:22] <evilytwisted> hes immitating all of us :/
[05:22] <kermoo> hes immitating all of us :/
[05:22] <nikozzzzzz> kermo makes me wonder:o
[05:22] <kermoo> kermo makes me wonder:o
[05:22] <nikozzzzzz> hes a bot
[05:22] <kermoo> hes a bot
[05:22] <evilytwisted> yeah we know
[05:22] <kermoo> yeah we know
[05:22] <IdleOne> Alright people, just ignore it for now.
[05:22] <kermoo> Alright people, just ignore it for now.
[05:22] <evilytwisted> just stop talking and itll go away :P
[05:22] <kermoo> who the hell is a bot?
[05:22] <kermoo> just stop talking and itll go away :P
[05:22] <jessers_> damn it
[05:22] <kermoo> damn it
[05:22] <jessers_> sob
[05:22] <kermoo> sob
[05:23] <nikozzzzzz> hey you are not a bot then why do you do what you do
[05:23] <kermoo> hey you are not a bot then why do you do what you do
[05:23] <evilytwisted> lol
[05:23] <kermoo> lol
[05:23] <kermoo> what I do?!
[05:23] <evilytwisted> what do you mean what did you do?!
[05:23] <kermoo> what do you mean what did you do?!
[05:23] <IdleOne> kermoo: please stop
[05:23] <kermoo> kermoo: please stop
[05:23] <nikozzzzzz> you repeat ppl messages
[05:23] <kermoo> you repeat ppl messages
[05:23] <kermoo> what is wrong?!
[05:23] <evilytwisted> Now hes trolling..
[05:23] <kermoo> huh?!
[05:23] <kermoo> Now hes trolling..
[05:23] <jessers_> TROLL
[05:23] <kermoo> TROLL
[05:24] <nikozzzzzz> funny funny yeah
[05:24] <kermoo> funny funny yeah
[05:25] <nikozzzzzz> a pro
[05:25] <kermoo> a pro
[05:25] <Janos> joejack, does iwlist works or not ? command not found sounds like if it was not installed
[05:25] <kermoo> joejack, does iwlist works or not ? command not found sounds like if it was not installed
[05:25] <cloudy_nz> kermo is a bot, doo-dah, doo-dah...
[05:25] <kermoo> kermo is a bot, doo-dah, doo-dah...
[05:25]  * mactruck thinks he can truck him
[05:25] <nikozzzzzz> how do we know you are not kinda sophisicated bot chat
[05:25] <kermoo> how do we know you are not kinda sophisicated bot chat
[05:25] <mactruck> trick
[05:25] <kermoo> trick
[05:25] <daklan> that is extremely annoying
[05:25] <kermoo> that is extremely annoying
[05:25] <machicola> what is the typical way to go about handling a 'symbol lookup error' when trying to run a program.... the error i'm getting is symbol lookup error: /home/thetentmaker/fritzing-0.7.7b.linux.AMD64/lib/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so: undefined symbol
[05:25] <kermoo> what is the typical way to go about handling a 'symbol lookup error' when trying to run a program.... the error i'm getting is symbol lookup error: /home/thetentmaker/fritzing-0.7.7b.linux.AMD64/lib/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.so: undefined symbol
[05:26] <cloudy_nz> script kiddies who write bots suck x 2
[05:26] <kermoo> script kiddies who write bots suck x 2
[05:26] <zed_> hi I have a acer 5755G-6620    can't get the wireless to work....
[05:26]  * mactruck just us the me command he cant copy that
[05:26] <kermoo> hi I have a acer 5755G-6620 can't get the wireless to work....
[05:26] <zed_> help
[05:26] <kermoo> help
[05:26] <zed_> using kubuntu 12.04
[05:26] <kermoo> using kubuntu 12.04
[05:26] <nikozzzzzz> try googling your wireless card
[05:26] <kermoo> try googling your wireless card
[05:26] <joejack> Janos it is thinking the wlan0 part is a command
[05:26] <kermoo> Janos it is thinking the wlan0 part is a command
[05:26] <zed_> not even sure what it is
[05:26] <IdleOne> kermoo: I want you to know have earned yourself a 3 month ban soon as I can gain ops
[05:26] <kermoo> not even sure what it is
[05:26] <kermoo> kermoo: I want you to know have earned yourself a 3 month ban soon as I can gain ops
[05:27] <TheDrums> /quit
[05:27] <kermoo> /quit
[05:28] <gogeta> friggin yaaic isnt working have to use webcat
[05:28] <kermoo> friggin yaaic isnt working have to use webcat
[05:29] <daklan> \b/quit
[05:29] <kermoo> \b/quit
[05:30] <luckysmack> anyone willing to help? i cant fix a broken install. I tried to install java7 using a ppa from these instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html which has worked before. but my internet died in the middle, and now i cant recover. here is what I have tried: http://bpaste.net/show/6JksJM2aZVpv6dgyN9zT/
[05:30] <kermoo> anyone willing to help? i cant fix a broken install. I tried to install java7 using a ppa from these instructions http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html which has worked before. but my internet died in the middle, and now i cant recover. here is what I have tried: http://bpaste.net/show/6JksJM2aZVpv6dgyN9zT/
[05:30] <luckysmack> ive also tried `sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a` which appeared to help some, but I still cant fix it. I am on ubuntu 12.04
[05:30] <kermoo> ive also tried `sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a` which appeared to help some, but I still cant fix it. I am on ubuntu 12.04
[05:30] <daklan> \\b
[05:30] <kermoo> \\b
[05:31] <ankur> hey guys
[05:31] <kermoo> hey guys
[05:32] <nydel> anyone here use vimprobable?
[05:32] <ankur> what's that
[05:32] <nydel> ankur: it's a vi improved editor-like web browser
[05:32] <nydel> http://www.vimprobable.org
[05:32] <ankur> nydel, lemme see
[05:33] <IdleOne> thank you
[05:33] <ankur> nydel, you know shell scripting?
[05:33] <daklan> that bot sure was annoying
[05:33] <nydel> ankur: sh, bash, lush, a bit of csh, lisp, perl, php
[05:33] <random777> Anyone here use a Steelseries sensie mouse?
[05:34] <nydel> ankur: lisp & bash mostly
[05:34] <zed_> Intel Centrino  Advanced-N 6205
[05:34] <zed_> can't get that to work
[05:35] <ankur> nydel, why are you using vimprobable? O.o
[05:35] <nydel> zed_: what can't you get to work exactly?
[05:35] <bkc_> wifi-card
[05:35] <zed_> nydel: well I have kubuntu 12.04 installed. and
[05:35] <zed_> the network app doesn't give me the option to enable wirelesss
[05:35] <zed_> its greyed out
[05:35] <daklan> driver not loaded?
[05:35] <zed_> hardware drivers shows nothing
[05:36] <nydel> ankur: i look at a lot of textual websites and am on a minimal kick right now. it's actually a really great browser, vimprobable is. much faster than any other browser i've used.
[05:36] <zed_> not sure where to get the drivers from i guess i have to manually install them from the manufacturers website ?
[05:36] <ankur> nydel, yeah if you're reading text then it's great.
[05:37] <luckysmack> anyone know how I can fix apt-get in 12.04 ? my router crashed when installing java, and now i cant install or recover apt-get. http://bpaste.net/show/6JksJM2aZVpv6dgyN9zT/
[05:37] <nydel> zed_: that's really unfortunate, i'm sorry to hear that didn't work automatically. you'll have to install the drivers, are you able to find them?
[05:37] <daklan> zed_: should be supported out of box, it seems. what does lspci say about it?
[05:37] <ankur> nydel, but then when it comes to multimedia it would suck
[05:37] <bkc_> nydel: what's the difference between vimprobable and say luakit? :)
[05:38] <ankur> luckysmack, try reopening your terminal
[05:38] <zed_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (rev 34)
[05:38] <daklan> luckysmack: tried "apt-get install -f"?
[05:38] <ankur> luckysmack, it usually works for me
[05:38] <nydel> ankur: i really dislike how multimedia www/http has become. i miss the old days. i wanna meet with my friends on a telnet bbs or shell, not facebook. ideas, not identity.
[05:38] <daklan> zed_: so the kernel recognizes it. Try lsmod|grep iwlagn
[05:39] <nydel> bkc_: i know vimprobable is built on lua.. i'm not sure how to answer your question in full
[05:39] <zed_> daklan: absolutely no output from that command
[05:39] <bkc_> nydel: luakit is the same, just that all config-files are written in lua... also all plugins/whatnot :)
[05:39] <daklan> zed_: modprobe iwlagn
[05:39] <luckysmack> daklan: yea tried that. did some stiff but didnt work.
[05:39] <daklan> you'd need sudo privileges for that, zed_
[05:39] <zed_> daklan: nothing
[05:39] <ankur> nydel, haha i don't think that's gonna happen.
[05:39] <zed_> \ahhh
[05:39] <zed_> \brb
[05:40] <luckysmack> ankur: something that simple seems to have worked...
[05:40] <daklan> luckysmack: what errors are you getting?
[05:40] <TheMinimalist> What is the difference between the Minimal CD and the regular 12.04 LTS if the Minimal CD will still result in a 5GB install? I ask because I'll be getting a netbook ( 1.6GHz processor dual-core, 1GB RAM ) and am looking for the smallest install and memory footprint
[05:40] <nydel> ankur: it will! you'll see! (i don't even believe me)
[05:40] <zed_> daklan: nothing
[05:40] <ankur> luckysmack, haha i know :D
[05:40] <zed_> no output
[05:40] <nydel> bkc_: i never learned anything about lua. should i?
[05:40] <bkc_> TheMinimalist: If you want small... don't go for ubuntu...
[05:40] <ankur> nydel, let us hope soo. I hate multimedia taking too long to load up :P
[05:40] <daklan> zed_: try lsmod|grep iwlagn again
[05:40] <bkc_> nydel: yes, it's a nice language :)
[05:41] <zed_> daklan: sudo ?
[05:41] <luckysmack> daklan: i pasted them in my link. but closing and reopening the terminal after those were run, seems to have fixed it.
[05:41] <daklan> zed_: nope
[05:41] <daklan> luckysmack: good! :)
[05:41] <zed_> daklan: nothing no output
[05:41] <nydel> ankur: and 99.(loop for i from 0 to (get-universal-time) do (format t "9")% of the media is crap
[05:41] <TheMinimalist> bkc_: What would you personally recommend then? Ubuntu seems amazing for a server ( 500MB total install? ) but seems bloated for a desktop ( 5GB? )
[05:41] <daklan> zed_: interesting
[05:41] <zed_> daklan: http://pastebin.com/Re3R6H1x
[05:42] <ankur> nydel, didn't understand a word :\ not much of a geek
[05:42] <nydel> ankur: 99.99999999% of the media that takes so long to load is crap
[05:42] <bkc_> TheMinimalist: I'd recommend xubuntu, if at all ubuntu...
[05:42] <ankur> nydel hahaha true that
[05:42] <TheMinimalist> bkc_ May I PM you?
[05:42] <bkc_> TheMinimalist: sure
[05:43] <nydel> bkc_: nice for what, or, what sort of programming do you do? is lua easy to use for gui?
[05:43] <bkc_> nydel: lua is something you use for embedded scripting... not as a separate program :)
[05:43] <ankur> guys i want to create my own operating system as my final year engineering project, i'm clueless from where to start. Any ideas?
[05:43] <daklan> zed_: sudo modprobe iwl4965
[05:43] <bkc_> ankur: GLHF, you'll need it ^^
[05:43] <nydel> ankur: do you use any of the popular web servers, like facébook, twiddler etc
[05:44] <zed_> daklan: nothing
[05:44] <zed_> remmber this is kde
[05:44] <daklan> zed_: then look it up using lsmod. If no output, you may need to Google exactly what package provides that module
[05:44] <daklan> zed_: won't matter if it's kde. looks like you're just missing the driver
[05:44] <nydel> bkc_: could it be useful for collecting a program written in different scripting languages?
[05:45] <nydel> bkc_: often i write a portion in lisp & a portion in ba/sh or perl, my methods of combining them are messy
[05:45] <daklan> zed_: i wonder if the shipped kernel includes that module. It may not
[05:45] <zed_> daklan: yeah I don't know
[05:46] <daklan> zed_: sorry, which version are you running?
[05:48] <pupil> hello everyone, my x server is error
[05:48] <zukirep> does anyone know if its possible for me to have switched my f2 button at boot to go to boot loader instead of the bios menu?
[05:48] <Janos> zed_, i think the module for that card is iwlwifi, try sudo 'modprobe iwlwifi'
[05:49] <pupil> is there anyone can help?
[05:49] <pupil> my xserver won't start
[05:50] <drupin> Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[05:50] <drupin> how i remove this
[05:50] <Rootbrian> there seems to be an issue with Cheese. It just will not start at all. All I get is it crashing all the time and I'm curious as to when a fix will be released soon.
[05:50] <thufir_> I'm using DAR to create DVD backup slices.  How large should the slices be?   There's a slight problem with large files:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/187954/dar-slice-size-for-dvds  because ISO 9660 doesn't allow for large files.  I'm looking for the most space efficient slice size.
[05:50] <dax> drupin: check in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* for a duplicate entry that looks like that
[05:50] <bkc_> thufir_: just use split and cat :/
[05:51] <drupin> ok dax a min
[05:52] <thufir_> bkc_:  heh.  wow, that sounds quite painful.  it's just that everytime I do the arithmetic to minimize wasted DVD space, it's either too large or too small.
[05:53] <bkc_> how hard can it be? just divide the files into parts that together completely fills up a DVD :/
[05:53] <ankur> bkc_, you mean the magazine?
[05:53] <ankur> nydel, i use fb twitter g+
[05:53] <nydel> cool i'm running awesomewm for the first time
[05:53] <ankur> nydel, helps me stay connected and updated
[05:53] <thufir_> bkc_: I'm not sure that you understand my question, thank you, though.
[05:54] <bkc_> ankur: magazine? o.O
[05:54] <ankur> bkc_, what's glhf?
[05:55] <nydel> ankur: me too, but i don't like any of them. they don't help me stay connected or updated at all. if anything they create distance between myself & friends i might make an effort to see (& vise versa) if these social bits didn't exist
[05:55] <Rootbrian> I'm using gnome-fallback. Usually I have gnome-panel running within fluxbox. It's just brilliant. No need for compiz.
[05:55] <bkc_> thufir_: I think I do... you can't put files bigger than 2GB on an iso9660-fs, so you have to split the files to be less than 2GB but at the same time use al available space on the disk...
[05:55] <bkc_> ankur: Good Luck, Have Fun
[05:55] <phyrexianslug> GLHF -> Good Luck,  High Five
[05:55] <luckysmack> ankur: ok maybe it didnt work.
[05:55] <ankur> bkc_, haha, tq
[05:55] <ankur> luckysmack, what didn't work
[05:56] <bkc_> thufir_: correct?
[05:56] <luckysmack> it will download and attempt to install a package, then beore it finishes, it wil tell me: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:56] <thufir_> bkc_: yes, that's the problem.  1024MB perhaps?
[05:56] <ankur> nydel, it surely makes you lazy and not get you to meet them, but then everything has it's pros and cons
[05:56] <nydel> of course, yeah, you're right ankur
[05:56] <luckysmack>  `sudo dpkg --configure -a' will again try to install them, but give the same error.
[05:57] <nydel> brb switchign back to cinnamon
[05:57] <ankur> luckysmack, umm are you on live session or what?
[05:57] <luckysmack> nope
[05:57] <bkc_> thufir_: how is 1024*4 4.7? that would be 4GB... you have to divide them at a npot value... 1604MB would almost completely fill each DVD...
[05:57] <rootbrian> figured the /name command didn't work in chatzilla.
[05:58] <ankur> luckysmack, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642173
[05:58] <daklan> luckysmack: try to uninstall the package that's causing the issue (using -f)
[05:58] <bkc_> thufir_: actually, just remembered that most DVDs are only 4.5GB, so that would be 1536MB / splice
[05:58] <luckysmack> i get: E: Could not get lock /var/lock/aptitude - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:58] <bkc_> thufir_: I'd go for 1500, to be on the same side :)
[05:59] <ankur> anyone here aware of shell scripting and stuff?
[05:59] <daklan> luckysmack: you have a stale aptitude process
[05:59] <Janos> ankur, i know about stuff :)
[05:59] <ankur> daklan, yeah that can be the case, luckysmack are you using software centre to maybe download or maybe ubuntu is updating
[05:59] <daklan> luckysmack: look for any aptitude processes using ps
[06:00] <daklan> luckysmack: then kill that sucker :)
[06:00] <luckysmack> the only thing i have been using is terminal and chrome
[06:00] <ankur> Janos, i wanted to make an operating system for my final year engineering project i don't know where to start
[06:00] <hfic> !lock
[06:00] <thufir_> bkc_:  ok, thanks
[06:00] <ankur> Janos, mind tipping?
[06:01] <Janos> ankur, at the beginning ? :P
[06:01] <ankur> Janos, yeah and where is that? :P
[06:02] <luckysmack> ankur: in regards to the link you sent me :http://bpaste.net/show/PPj4IUPs7jNlG680XiuX/
[06:03] <hfic> if ur having issues with /var/lock why don't u just delete the file from lock?
[06:04] <thufir_> if you leave out the -p flag for DAR (Disk ARchive), and the hard drive fills up, will DAR pause and prompt you to remove files, press enter, and then continue after user input?  Or, is it not quite that smart?
[06:05] <daklan> luckysmack: some proc is using that config.dat. lsof|grep <whatever> file and see if that process is something that should be running
[06:05] <bkc_> thufir_: I've never used DAR... I use dd, split and cat
[06:05] <luckysmack> i tried killing aptitude and its still shows up with ps. not doing it right? I tried 'sudo killall aptitude' and 'sudo kill 21704' (the pid)
[06:05] <daklan> luckysmack: kill -9 <pid>
[06:05] <hfic> kill -9 pid
[06:05] <thufir_> bkc_: ok, thaks I'm trying that slice size you suggested.  I think it will be close enough for gov'mt work.
[06:05] <drupin> /etc/apt/sources.list.d two enteries of dvd.list
[06:05] <bkc_> thufir_: also, for an automated backup-system, that's a really bad idea...
[06:06] <thufir_> bkc_: why is that a bad idea?
[06:06] <bkc_> thufir_: the pause-and-wait-for-user-input-thingy that is...
[06:07] <thufir_> oh, yeah, I'm just backing up an entire hard drive in order to format it.  It's a one-time backup.
[06:07] <bkc_> thufir_: then I'd suggest a removable harddrive instead :)
[06:08] <thufir_> lol, yes, that would make more sense. I'm not always known for doing things the sensible way...
[06:08] <luckysmack> daklan: `lsof | grep config.dat` doesnt come up with any results
[06:08] <bkc_> thufir_: have a look att clonezilla, it's a live-distro built for exactly this purpose :)
[06:08] <thufir_> will do, thanks :)
[06:08] <bkc_> !clonezilla
[06:08] <xkill> redo is easier
[06:09] <luckysmack> daklan: kill -9 pid killed aptitude, but still same error.
[06:09] <Janos> so i have not been paying much attention to file systems lately and suddenly i find this /run directory, ls -lid tells me it shares the same inode as /var/run which leaves me with two questions: first, is it possible to hard link directories on ext4 ? and more importantly, why the hell do we keep putting more stuff in / ? :P
[06:09] <ankur> luckysmack, i am no expert bro, sudo apt works when i restart my terminal
[06:09] <luckysmack> would a simple restart fix this?
[06:09] <xkill> http://redobackup.org/
[06:09] <ankur> luckysmack, from what i can see it's the half installed program that' causing the problem, try uninstalling it
[06:09] <daklan> luckysmack: tried to uninstall the package you were trying to install?
[06:09] <Pazzie> hi all, i want to add my additional hdd (existing one) i can see him but if i want to mount it it keeps saying in correct filesystem, what happend was i reinstalled my system and now i want to add the harddrive again
[06:09] <daklan> ankur: good insight :)
[06:09] <luckysmack> yea i have tried.
[06:09] <bkc_> thufir_: http://clonezilla.org/ :)
[06:10] <Pazzie> i my previous configuration it was a lvm
[06:10] <luckysmack>  ill post the output
[06:10] <drupin> the double enteries not moving out
[06:10] <drupin> in the PPA
[06:10] <xkill> sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:10] <ankur> daklan, how much of coding do you know on linux?
[06:11] <daklan> Pazzie: specify the correct file type using -t parameter
[06:11] <xkill> thufir_: http://redobackup.org/
[06:11] <daklan> ankur: by "coding", you mean scripting?
[06:11] <ankur> yep
[06:11] <Pazzie> daklan: in the fstab file?
[06:11] <daklan> ankur: run of the mill shell scripting, python, some other stuff
[06:12] <daklan> Pazzie: mount -t
[06:12] <daklan> Pazzie: add your special ingredients to that command
[06:12] <luckysmack> i closed my terminal, and tried again. here are my results, still broken: http://bpaste.net/show/1sltGB5f9h5og1qouRYL/
[06:12] <daklan> Pazzie: in fact, "man mount"
[06:13] <daklan> luckysmack: sudo apt-get remove --purge man-db
[06:13] <Pazzie> well what i did was this, i put the uuid in the fstab file (since i can see the harddrive) and then i do sudo mount -a
[06:13] <daklan> luckysmack: it's getting stuck at that point
[06:13] <daklan> Pazzie: try it first using "mount", then modify your fstab according to what worked with mount
[06:14] <thufir_> xkill: thanks. I think DAR will suffice for tonight, but good to know.
[06:14] <alqasmey> sudo apt-get autotremove
[06:14] <luckysmack> trying
[06:14] <ankur> daklan, any tips for a noob aiming to make an OS
[06:14] <Janos> Pazzie, just my two cents, if you had a lvm config on this drive you can't mount it directly AFAIK, you have to assemble the lvm first and then mount the lvm device
[06:14] <alqasmey> hi
[06:14] <daklan> Pazzie: you may be specifying the wrong fs type, or you specified the entire drive when in fact you want to mount a partition
[06:15] <daklan> ankur: an OS? big dreams there, brother
[06:15] <daklan> ankur: and no, you can't clobber an OS together using shell scripting
[06:15] <Pazzie> daklan: yes thats te error message i am receiving
[06:16] <daklan> Pazzie: inspect the partitions on that drive using fdisk -l
[06:16] <daklan> Pazzie: my guess is that your drive is partitioned, and you're trying to mount /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 (as an example)
[06:17] <Pazzie> daklan: if i do fdisk -l nothing happends (do i need to type the hdd behind it?
[06:17] <xkill> should have listed the drives
[06:18] <xkill> sudo fdisk -l
[06:18] <hfic> Pazzie, you need sudo
[06:18] <daklan> Pazzie: yep. "man fdisk" for more info
[06:18] <daklan> yeah, and whatever the other folks said
[06:18] <jmstick> dak is apt-get purge program the same as apt-get remove --purge program
[06:18] <ankur> daklan, yeah i know but i need to start with something. and we need to dream big, haven't you heard? Shoot for the moon, don't worry even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars :P
[06:18] <Pazzie> daklan: yes that is correct, but i have read, that nowdays ubuntu mounts on uuid instead of /dev/sdb for example
[06:19] <luckysmack> daklan: running `sudo apt-get remove --purge man-db` will uninstall my ubuntu-desktop and a lot of other things. : gnome-user-guide* man-db* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntu-docs* ubuntu-standard* yelp*
[06:19] <daklan> Pazzie: yes, that's if you reference the correct uuid
[06:19] <daklan> luckysmack: wow, use dpkg instead
[06:19] <xkill> sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:19] <hfic> Pazzie, blkid will show u UUIDs
[06:20] <daklan> xkill: dpkg is failing on the configure step, that won't work
[06:20] <luckysmack> sudo dpkg --configure -a doesnt work.
[06:20] <Pazzie> daklan: i see the drive with fdisk -l (/dev/sdc1 system GPT) but i dont see the filesystem it is
[06:21] <hfic> Pazzie, sudo blkid
[06:21] <daklan> luckysmack: dpkg -r
[06:21] <luckysmack> dpkg gives me this: http://bpaste.net/show/52q4AYLP288zruBq2lpc/
[06:21] <daklan> i had to man that stupid flag, haven't used dpkg by itself in a while :(
[06:21] <Pazzie> hfic: this is what i now see: /dev/sdc1: UUID="wttki2-9ggl-b4Zx-7dRc-T522-SfFl-BnSHNP" TYPE="LVM2_member"
[06:21] <daklan> Pazzie: oh, it's LVM
[06:22] <hfic> Pazzie, your drive is LVM
[06:22] <Pazzie> yes, i have tried it in my last configuration
[06:22] <Pazzie> but i dont want that anymore
[06:22] <Pazzie> i dont need lvm
[06:22] <jmstick> luckysmack fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat to find out which process is using this file.
[06:23] <luckysmack> sudo dpkg -r man-db gives me this: http://bpaste.net/show/Xj6jfPNpF9TweN4pz79S/
[06:23] <Pazzie> but there is still data on the drive
[06:23] <luckysmack> jmstick: no results
[06:24] <jmstick> sudo dpkg --configure -a doesnt work?
[06:24] <luckysmack> jmstick: no that gives me: http://bpaste.net/show/52q4AYLP288zruBq2lpc/
[06:25] <xkill> no
[06:25] <daklan> luckysmack: tried the -f flag?
[06:25] <Pazzie> hfic: or daklan any idea? i just want to access the data and after that i can repartition the drive if needed
[06:25] <luckysmack> daklan: aptitude install -f  ? yea i have
[06:26] <daklan> Pazzie: never tried mounting lvm on a separate machine. I'm sure there's a way, just haven't tried it
[06:26] <Janos> luckysmack, what's the status of the package ? dpkg --get-selections <package>
[06:26] <luckysmack> if i do that with aptitude, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, since it wants to now remove man-db
[06:26] <hfic> Pazzie, do pvs
[06:27] <Pazzie> anyone? hfic
[06:27] <ankur> daklan, there?
[06:27] <jmstick> luckysmack tryed a restart and or: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <Janos> Pazzie, pvs, vgs and lvs should give you more info
[06:27] <Pazzie> pvs? just as a command?
[06:27] <daklan> Pazzie: tried this? http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux
[06:27] <hfic> Pazzie, type pvs, and it will show the groupname the LVM belongs 2 and mount it by the group
[06:27] <daklan> ankur: yep
[06:27] <ankur> daklan, read my last reply :D
[06:27] <luckysmack> Janos: oracle-java7-installer				purge
[06:28] <luckysmack> i asked about a restart, but people were still feeding me ideas to try and fix. so not not yet
[06:28] <daklan> ankur: hard to do that when you're ssh-ing to a headless server and there's tons of text scrolling in your window
[06:28] <Janos> luckysmack, according to your paste, the package with the problem seems to be man-db, not oracle-java
[06:29] <raymond_> Upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 beta
[06:29] <raymond_> wish me luck ;)
[06:29] <hfic> raymond_, #ubuntu+1 if u have issues :)
[06:29] <raymond_> hfic, thanks :)
[06:29] <hfic> raymond_, gl
[06:29] <daklan> luckysmack: i'd do a dpkg -rf man-db, but i'd make sure it doesn't take the other dependent packages with it
[06:30] <ankur> daklan, anyways any tips as to where i should start??
[06:30] <luckysmack> yea i know. i didnt touch man-db until someone mentioned to see if removing it would help. i didnt install it myself. it either was on the system, or some other package installed it. ubuntu-desktop depends on it.
[06:30] <daklan> ankur: start with robot rtos
[06:31] <Janos> luckysmack, dpkg --get-selections man-db ?
[06:31] <ankur> daklan, what's that
[06:31] <daklan> ankur: you'd learn a lot about the hardware if you start with robot kits. I mean you need an in-depth knowledge of hardware for you to delve into OS programming
[06:32] <luckysmack> Janos: man-db						deinstall
[06:32] <ankur> i know about computer organization
[06:32] <daklan> ankur: you know those robot kits that they sell? they come with RTOS development environments - real time operating system
[06:32] <ankur> daklan, yeah iknow
[06:32] <luckysmack> but i think thats because i was asked to try and remove it. the reason its on deinstall
[06:32] <Janos> luckysmack, sudo apt-get install man-db ?
[06:33] <Pazzie> daklan: hfic  i am now a little bit futher
[06:33] <daklan> Pazzie: great!
[06:33] <Pazzie> now i get this if i want to mount it: sudo mount /dev/s-ftp/Data /media/Downloads mount: special device /dev/s-ftp/Data does not exist
[06:33] <luckysmack> Janos: that didnt break. looked like it worked. but man-db status is still deinstall
[06:34] <Yifu> ？
[06:34] <luckysmack> Janos: http://bpaste.net/show/1TFEjyhz1rtmJIhntsMc/
[06:35] <Janos> luckysmack, echo 'man-db install' | sudo dpkg --set-selection, and then try to update or whatever you were trying to do in there first place
[06:35] <Pazzie> daklan: /dev/s-ftp/Data is the lv name i get when i did:sudo lvdisplay /dev/s-ftp
[06:36] <luckysmack> ok ill try
[06:36] <Janos> Pazzie, can you pastebin the output of pvs, vgs and lvs ?
[06:36] <ankur> daklan, how to start with that?
[06:37] <Pazzie> Janos: yes gimme a sec
[06:39] <daklan-away> g'night, boys and girls
[06:40] <Janos> daklan-away, take care
[06:40] <Pazzie> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206265/
[06:40] <daklan-away> Janos: will do, you do the same :)
[06:40] <Marzata> good morning from Europe!
[06:40] <blackshirt> marzata, good afternoo from asia :d
[06:41] <luckysmack> Janos: i think that may have worked. not getting any errors with some of the other commands anymore. trying again.
[06:41] <blackshirt> where do you come from marzata
[06:41] <Marzata> now in Oslo, Norway
[06:41] <Marzata> blackshirt: you?
[06:41] <blackshirt> marzata, amazing country :d
[06:41] <newbie> I just did a bleachbit as root.  Since then, aMule doesn't work any more.  How could I fix that?
[06:41] <Pazzie> Marzata: i am from the netherlands :D
[06:42] <blackshirt> i'm from indonesia marzata
[06:42] <Janos> Pazzie, you are missing a physical disk, don't think it's possible to start and lvm like that
[06:42] <Marzata> blackshirt: ah, a Java developer?
[06:42] <Marzata> and the Netherlands are to low
[06:43] <blackshirt> marzata, ah.. You make a joke :d
[06:43] <blackshirt> i come from java island :d
[06:43] <luckysmack> ok it looks like this fixed it: echo 'man-db install' | sudo dpkg --set-selection
[06:43] <blackshirt> But it was not related to java programming languages
[06:44] <newbie> And aMule worked before that, so bleachbit did something
[06:44] <luckysmack> thanks for the help Janos jmstick daklan-away
[06:44] <luckysmack> i appreciate it very much.
[06:44] <Janos> luckysmack, you got it
[06:45] <nbubuntu> I need a  bit help , I can't get galaxy tab mount on ubuntu , not sure the reason was , installed gmtp and it doesn't get connect
[06:45] <Pazzie> Janos: what happend is, when i first installed ubuntu, i choose to use lvm, (i had 4 disks, 1 os and 3 data) but i sized my os disk to small, and i needed to extend it, but with gparted it was not possible so i then thought to reinstall my system with a bigger hdd. (since it is a vm, i removed my os disk and i have kept my 3 data disks) but now i want to add my hdd disks but the system is not allowing me
[06:46] <hfic> newbie, bleachbit overwrites data rendering it complete garbage that can't be recovered. If you did something to a program try reinstalling
[06:47] <Janos> Pazzie, pastebin cat /proc/partitions
[06:47] <newbie> hfic: I was hoping that I could just remove something or do a command and recover the program.  I remember with Thunderbird I had a similar problem and I had to delete something and it worked after that
[06:48] <Pazzie> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206274/
[06:48] <hfic> newbie, without knowing what was deleted or changed reinstall is the quickest option.
[06:50] <msmith0957> have a new install of ubuntu on an old laptop, but can't get audio working :/ the card is shown under aplay -l but not shown in the vol control as a 'hardware output device' :/
[06:50] <Janos> Pazzie, now i need sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:51] <msmith0957> It is indeed selected properly from alsamixer, but otherwise isnt seen from vol control or heard
[06:51] <Pazzie> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206277/
[06:52] <Janos> Pazzie, did you reinstall ?
[06:52] <Pazzie> Janos: yes
[06:54] <Janos> Pazzie, well bad news, you erased one of the partitions of your LVM Physical Volume i don't know how to recover that, not sure it's even possible without recovering that partition
[06:55] <Pazzie> no... sda is empty that is okay the data i need is on sdb1 and sdc1
[06:57] <MK`> Is there a command to list all folders I am sharing over a network?
[06:57] <Janos> yes but sdb1 and sdc1 along with sdaN where the components of the Volume Group named s-ftp and now the sdaN is no more, so the Volume Group s-ftp won't start, which means the Logical Volumes Data and Software won't start either :(
[06:58] <Pazzie> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206285/
[06:58] <blackshirt> mk' , what the share you was used?
[06:58] <MK`> blackshirt: samba
[06:59] <hfic> MK`, smbtree
[06:59] <MK`> thank you
[06:59] <Janos> Pazzie, what's wrong there ?
[07:00] <Pazzie> Janos: that is the disk that i am trying to mount
[07:00] <Asad2005> i am getting this error "postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory"
[07:01] <Pazzie> Janos: but you are saying, i cannot access the data anymore on the drives? and i need to wipe them, to be able to mount them?
[07:01] <Janos> Pazzie, the error you are seeing there is just because fdisk doesn't support GPT, you can use parted to list the partitions of that disk like this, sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[07:03] <Janos> Pazzie, but there is nothing wrong with sdb or sdc according to LVM, the problem is a missing physical partition that is no longer on the system and i assumed was on sda and got erased, and like i said, if all the parts of a Physical Volume are not available, this volume won't start
[07:03] <random777> Can anyone help me a mouse problem ?
[07:04] <buhman> so I'm not understanding why ubuntu archive mirrors have the ubuntu -> . symlink
[07:04] <buhman> seems rather stupid
[07:06] <nbubuntu> I need a  bit help , I can't get galaxy tab mount on ubuntu , not sure the reason was , installed gmtp and it doesn't get connect
[07:07] <bkc_> nbubuntu: did you set the tab to usb-drive mode?
[07:08] <nbubuntu> bkc_: how to do that ?
[07:08] <bkc_> settings->application->usb-something
[07:09] <Pazzie> Janos: is there any way that i can just read the disk with some sort of livecd, like knoppix?
[07:09] <nbubuntu> bkc_: doesn't have that . Using Honeycomb android 3.1
[07:09] <Pazzie> Janos: i just need to copy some files
[07:09] <bkc_> nbubuntu: then no idea... google :)
[07:11] <Janos> Pazzie, sorry man, the physical partitions right now have data that only LVM understand, they don't have any conventional file system that you can mount directly, if lvm does not read it, no one else can, so i have no idea what else to do here
[07:12] <Pazzie> Janos: and what about install a new ubunutu system with lvm? (with the same name i used before and then try to mount it? )
[07:13] <nbubuntu> bkc_: weird case , bot hare under linux kernal , libmtp panic , dont know why :-/
[07:14] <blackshirt> pazzie, i think you were familiar with lvm setup on ubuntu
[07:14] <Pazzie> no i am a expert with windows, but a newbie with ubuntu i just installed it with the default options
[07:15] <blackshirt> i don't play bit a deep with lvm, but if you familiar with lvm,i think you can recover
[07:16] <drupin> I am installing on 8GB USB there is something Casper I read some where for persistence...... and suggestions
[07:18] <moah> hello #ubuntu, i have 12.04 on my laptop, everyting works except the terminal window is not updating really well, do you have an idea what might be causing this?
[07:18] <Janos> nbubuntu, i don't think it's possible with ubuntu stock, my S3 won't work either, work is on the way, but to get it working right now you would have to do some compiling, here is a link that came up on google http://research.jacquette.com/jmtpfs-exchanging-files-between-android-devices-and-linux/
[07:20] <nbubuntu> Janos : thanks . will try that
[07:20] <alkisg> I've set up contacts syncing between thunderbird and gmail, but ...I don't remember how I did it, or how to add new google address books. I suspect I've set them up in evolution in previous Ubuntu versions, and thunderbird is seeing them via the preinstalled EDS (evolution data server) Contact Integration plugin.
[07:20] <alkisg> So, my question is, is it true that thunderbird by default on Precise has no way at all to sync with google contacts without manually installing a plugin?
[07:20] <RPG-Master> I aught not ask general networking questions here, should I?
[07:21] <Janos> Pazzie, that would not work but you can always try :)
[07:21] <bkc_> RPG-Master: shoot
[07:22] <RPG-Master> I have this cheap but supposedly decent wireless router I got from Monoprice, which I use as a bridge from my parent's room (source of the cable) to the rest of the house. It works great... but it drops it's connection to the main router at what seems to be random. What could the problem be, and how can I troubleshoot it?
[07:22] <RPG-Master> I hear that the monoprice router runs some sort of Tomato, if that helps
[07:23] <bkc_> RPG-Master: It propably overflows in a buffer somewhere... start by checking if UPnP is turned on in the router-config (both of them), and if it's on turn it off :)
[07:23] <RPG-Master> bkc_: checking now
[07:23] <bkc_> UPnP is garbage, right up there with Avahi and ZeroConf...
[07:26] <Elthommo> hi, anybody here good with dual boot ?
[07:26] <bkc_> Elthommo: shoot
[07:27] <Elthommo> cool. win 7 with ubuntu. I have set up 4 primary partitions
[07:28] <Elthommo> win, ubuntu, shared space and swap
[07:28] <Janos> bkc_, they ideas behind them are quite nice, the implementations not so much :P
[07:28] <Janos> s/they/the
[07:28] <RPG-Master> bkc_: Ah, the main router, a Netgear, has UPnP turned on. What will happen if I turn it off?
[07:28] <bkc_> Janos: ofc. as usual then ^^
[07:29] <Janos> bkc_, yeah nothing new there ...
[07:29] <bkc_> RPG-Master: unless you have it to open up ports and backdoors, nothing :)
[07:29] <Pazzie> Janos: thnx for all your help, and off the record, i hate lvm... it just cost me my keepass database and my document with al my license keys....
[07:29] <RPG-Master> bkc_: Hmm... seems I remember using it for my torrents...
[07:29] <RPG-Master> checking
[07:30] <bkc_> RPG-Master: just manually open the port you use for torrents... UPnP is a _*huge*_ securityrisk anyway...
[07:32] <Elthommo> I have Windows in place, now doing ubuntu. questin - do I put bootloader on /dev/sda or on /dev/sda2  - the partition I have formatted ext4 for ubuntu ?
[07:32] <bkc_> Elthommo: /dev/sda :)
[07:33] <bkc_> bootloader should always be in the MBR, Win7 has it's garbage elsewhere :)
[07:33] <Elthommo> thanks
[07:34] <Janos> Pazzie, glad i could help or not help :(, anyway lvm is really useful, just got a remember to remove the physical partition from the lvm before wiping out the disk next time, if it makes you feel any better we all have our "LVMs" mine was with solaris meta devices :)
[07:34] <RPG-Master> bkc_: OK, I turned it off... now I'm wondering how to test it out on the bridge router.
[07:35] <bkc_> RPG-Master: put some huge load on it, preferable with lots of new connections (connect/disconnect much) :)
[07:35] <bkc_> some kind of network benchmark :)
[07:35] <bkc_> for ~6-8h ^^
[07:35] <bkc_> netpref is nice :)
[07:35] <Pazzie> Janos: well no more lvm for me... i also dont need it, since i have all my data allready organised on my different drives
[07:36] <Pazzie> Janos: it also makes things more difficult
[07:36] <RPG-Master> bkc_:  Hmmm.... would several linux iso torrents be a good test?
[07:36] <bkc_> RPG-Master: sure :)
[07:37] <Janos> Pazzie, agree with that, usually extra functionality brings extra complexity
[07:37] <bkc_> RPG-Master: add some regular surfing onto that and you're done :)
[07:41] <Janos> so bkc_, any idea what's up with this new /run dir and if it actually is a hard link to /var/run ?
[07:42] <bkc_> no idea... havn't used ubuntu in ~6months now :)
[07:42] <sir-me> part
[07:43] <Janos> ahh, i see, tinkering with something new ?
[07:43] <bkc_> ArchLinux
[07:44] <buhman> s/L/ L/
[07:44] <bkc_> buhman: what ever ^^
[07:45] <Janos> nice, i have to take Arch for a spin one of these day, been reading a lot of docs from their wiki lately and at least that part is really good, somehow everything i look up about linux shows up in their wiki :P
[07:45] <buhman> Janos: arch sucks by the way
[07:45] <buhman> Janos: just not quite so much as ubuntu :P
[07:45] <auronandace> !ot
[07:45] <bkc_> Janos: their wiki is god-like :3
[07:46] <Janos> yeah, it actually reminds of the gentoo docs, i love gentoo doc
[07:46] <buhman> Janos: ^ generally oversimplified, and even outdated or just completely inaccurate in places.
[07:46] <bkc_> auronandace: there's no-one here with a question so give it rest will ya :)
[07:47] <bkc_> buhman: not oversimplified... just enought for a novice->advanced user to understand ^^
[07:47] <bkc_> S/advanced/experienced/
[07:47] <msmith0957> Anyone know anything about alsa audio drivers ? Need help debugging my no-audio issue :/ http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=093cfd18ead70526bc477a48d6aad53f84a74d99
[07:48] <buhman> Janos: gentoo docs: so old and crusty they grow varities of fungus that have been extinct elsewhere for several thousand millenia.
[07:48] <RPG-Master> So, while still working on my network, I notice most of my torrents are paused due to an error. My external, named "Main Drive" is being called "Main Drive1" by several apps. Come to find out, under /media/ their is both a Main Drive and a Main Drive1, with Main Drive having a gray x in the corner of it.
[07:48] <buhman> bkc_: yes oversimplified.
[07:49] <bkc_> RPG-Master: it probably disconnected and the connected the harddrive kinda fast :)
[07:49] <bkc_> msmith0957: I'll need more than "no sound" to help you :)
[07:49] <buhman> Janos: not to mention the elderliness of the portage tree itself.
[07:49] <Janos> RPG-Master, remove the drive, remove both dirs if they still exists, connect it back again
[07:50] <RPG-Master> gonna try
[07:50] <Janos> buhman, wait Arch uses partage as in gentoo portage ?
[07:50] <buhman> Janos: no, you mentioned gentoo
[07:50] <mn2010> Is there a ubuntu Development Channel(i forget) i need assistance on a dev release issue
[07:50] <buhman> I'm talking about gentoo
[07:50] <msmith0957> bkc_: aplay -l lists my sound card, alsamixer also allows me to mess with levels, but the actual vol control only shows the 'dummy output' hardware playback device, not my REAL card
[07:50] <auronandace> !12.10 | mn2010
[07:51] <root_micro_mac> hello
[07:51] <Janos> buhman, ahh ok, so the oversimplified docs, were about gentoo too ?
[07:51] <msmith0957> bkc_: someone had a similar issue here, with very similar hardware: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/190509 but their solution did not appear to help me
[07:51] <buhman> Janos: no, that was archlinux
[07:51] <Janos> lol ok
[07:51] <mn2010> thanks auronandace, i never use IRC...
[07:52] <buhman> Janos: I apologize my "gentoo docs:" transition was not explicit enough
[07:52] <auronandace> mn2010: no worries :)
[07:52] <bkc_> msmith0957: I'm guessing you're using regular ubuntu 12.04? then it's probably PulseAudio's fault...
[07:52] <buhman> msmith0957: agreed ^
[07:52] <msmith0957> yes, i've heard some very negative things about PA :?
[07:52] <msmith0957> So, what to do ?
[07:52] <buhman> msmith0957: speaking of cruft...
[07:52] <bkc_> Damn Lennartware... -.-
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> !gksudo > lotuspsychje
[07:53] <buhman> msmith0957: 1) disable it 2) profit
[07:53] <RPG-Master> woo, fixed that :D
[07:53] <Janos> so elder huh, well can't really say at this point, haven't use gentoo in around 10 years, but back then they actually had all the new toys, and they easiest package manager i have ever build a package for
[07:53] <RPG-Master> Thanks Janos :)
[07:53] <msmith0957> buhman: i believe i've actually killed it once, and made sure auto spawning was disabled. but didnt see any immediate benefit, would a reboot be necessary ?
[07:53] <alkisg> Is gnome-contacts used at all in Ubuntu?
[07:54] <Janos> RPG-Master, sure thing
[07:54] <msmith0957> Im guesing yes.
[07:54] <buhman> msmith0957: you'll essentially want to stop the pulseaudio daemon, remove it from update-rc.d or however ubuntu does things. Then you need to change your asoundrc/asound.conf
[07:54] <buhman> msmith0957: "change" meaning "make your default output device plug:dmix rather than pulse"
[07:54] <auronandace> !info gnome-contacts | alkisg
[07:54] <buhman> msmith0957: reboot: absolutely not
[07:55] <msmith0957> buhman: i'll give it a go, I think I tried this same thing yesterday, sans the asound.conf change
[07:55] <buhman> msmith0957: modifying asound.conf is the most important part :P
[07:55] <buhman> msmith0957: without it, you'll then be trying to send audio to a daemon that no longer exists.
[07:56] <alkisg> auronandace: ah, it was installed in my setup because I did an upgrade, I just saw that it's not preinstalled by default. So, why is evolution-data-server still preinstalled? Thank you.
[07:56] <Janos> anyway the only bad thing about gentoo were actually the things that made it shine, packaging for it very fun, having to compile firefox and X from source, not so much
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Janos
[07:56] <auronandace> alkisg: thats optional too
[07:57] <buhman> msmith0957: pulse will likely have control of hw0.0; but once you stop it, you can even specify dmix/hw0.0 manually.
[07:57] <auronandace> alkisg: thunderbird is default in 12.04
[07:57] <alkisg> auronandace: so it's not needed by any core components like ubuntu one, and I can remove it... Thanks :)
[07:58] <dzup> who gives floodbots channel op if services are down?
[07:58] <alkisg> auronandace: yeah, the problem was that thunderbird got my contacts from evolution-data-server, and I couldn't find any ways to add new eds addressbooks
[07:58] <buhman> msmith0957: if that still doesn't work, likely your mixer is still mis-configured, and pastebinning the output of "amixer" would be beneficial.
[07:58] <alkisg> Switching to gcontactssync :)
[07:58] <msmith0957> buhman: ok, i'll try all that and see what happens
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> dzup: try #freenode for this kind of questions
[07:58] <VinnyAtaide> hello, anybody here
[07:58] <VinnyAtaide> ?
[07:58]  * buhman switches to gmailfs
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !ask | VinnyAtaide
[07:59] <buhman> msmith0957: if it doesn't work you're doing it wrong
[08:00] <buhman> msmith0957: it is unlikely you have hardware that is completely unsupported and/or are encountering a legitimate alsa bug.
[08:00] <VinnyAtaide> Is there a way to hard format all my HDD? because my partitions where harmed by windows, and I can't install ubuntu next to windows.
[08:00] <buhman> (with the exception of those winmodem sound card pieces of crap from 1997)
[08:00] <buhman> (but nobody has that hardware anymore)
[08:00] <msmith0957> buhman: yes, i completely agree lol
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> VinnyAtaide:you can choose wipe whole hd and install ubuntu in the installer
[08:02] <bkc_> buhman: I have that hw! ^^
[08:03] <bkc_> my old IBM 760 has it >.<
[08:04] <JustAlice> Does anyone know how I can fix my trackpad. I installed Ubuntu on my macbook but the trackpad wont work anymore.
[08:04] <msmith0957> buhman: i can't seem to locate any 'asound.conf' or 'asoundrc' files/folders on my system
[08:04] <bkc_> msmith0957: it's a hidden file in /home/$USER
[08:05] <VinnyAtaide> lotuspsychje : but will Ubuntu do a hard format? I'm worried about future changes, because I can't install windows and linux next to each other now so I want to fix this issue on the future. That's why I asked to do a really hard format.
[08:05] <msmith0957> yeah, thats what i found online, but i dont have a .asoundrc
[08:05] <bkc_> msmith0957: create one?
[08:05] <Janos> msmith0957, just create it
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> VinnyAtaide:is your purpose to install ubuntu alone on 1 hd?
[08:05] <msmith0957> Oh, ok.
[08:05] <random_> how can i remove a program and all its dependencies ?
[08:06] <VinnyAtaide> lotuspsychje no, I want to install windows after
[08:06] <bkc_> VinnyAtaide: don't... Windows first, Linux second
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | VinnyAtaide
[08:06] <bkc_> always
[08:06] <auronandace> VinnyAtaide: you should do windows first
[08:06] <hfic> random sudo apt-get purge pkage
[08:07] <VinnyAtaide> ok. I know about the grub issue, but when I formatted with windows my linux can't see my HDD now.
[08:07] <Janos> VinnyAtaide, use ubuntu live cd to "format" your drive with the disk utility, install windows and then install ubuntu
[08:07] <VinnyAtaide> I'll do it again
[08:07] <VinnyAtaide> ohh
[08:07] <VinnyAtaide> thanks Janos
[08:07] <bkc_> o.O
[08:07] <hfic> services must be back
[08:07] <bkc_> ossum!
[08:08] <bkc_> \o/
[08:08] <LostMonk> lol
[08:08] <Janos> VinnyAtaide, don't create any partitions, just create a new disk label, or "format" as you call it
[08:09] <VinnyAtaide> Janos ok
[08:09] <random_> hfic,  thanks that helped. i was having a problem with a package not install for some reason, and then constanly causing errors.
[08:09] <mikk0> where can i download older versions of ubuntu?
[08:09] <Romance> hello help me !!, I have dualboot Ubuntu 32bit from Windows 7 64bit, and it works fine, but when i tried to boot into Windows 7 (in GRUB it said windows 7 loader /etc/sda3/ something like that) , but it gave me error "Windows failed to start. Please insert your installation disc blabla" , help me !
[08:09] <buhman> mikk0: older than?
[08:09] <buhman> 8.04 is still being circulated iirc
[08:10] <bkc_> mikk0: why would you want old software?
[08:10] <mikk0> older than 12.045LTS
[08:10] <zal> hi
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> Romance:try that update-grub
[08:10] <mikk0> err 12.04LTS
[08:10] <buhman> mikk0: yeah, normal cdimage mirrors have up to 8.04
[08:10] <Janos> mikk0, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases
[08:10] <zal> how do i tell cmake to make psp xor ps vita dev suite studio project and makefiles
[08:10] <mikk0> Janos: thanks
[08:10] <zal> and
[08:10] <zal> 07:09.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder [1131:7133] (rev d1) Subsystem: Creatix Polymedia GmbH Device [16be:0010] Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[08:10] <zal> how to install that so it works with a tvserver ?
[08:10] <hfic> !pastebin | zal
[08:11] <VinnyAtaide> Janos when I created a label it just says "unallocated" is that right?
[08:11] <bkc_> !xmbc | zal
[08:11] <zal> how do i link hw to the tv tuner ?
[08:11] <zal> tvtime
[08:12] <zal> got xbmc
[08:12] <Janos> VinnyAtaide, correct, now boot windows and do the rest
[08:12] <bkc_> zal :tvtime should pick it up automagically :/
[08:12] <zal> how ?
[08:12] <zal> no signal !
[08:12] <VinnyAtaide> Janos ok thank you very much sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar!
[08:12] <bkc_> press I for input-selection
[08:12] <VinnyAtaide> bye
[08:12] <bkc_> input-switching*
[08:13] <zal> television no signal
[08:13] <Janos> VinnyAtaide, welcome
[08:13] <bkc_> zal: have you plugged in the cable? :)
[08:13] <zal> i think so last time i checked
[08:14] <bkc_> check it again ;)
[08:14] <bkc_> If it says "no signal" then it finds the card...
[08:14] <zal> i have no software signal but cable is connected
[08:14] <Romance> lotuspsychje : update-grub ?
[08:14] <bkc_> rest is up to you and not relevant to ubuntu :)
[08:14] <zal> how does it finds the card ?
[08:14] <bkc_> related*
[08:15] <zal> howto install the card in ubuntu
[08:15] <bkc_> it is installed
[08:15] <zal> i dunno
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> Romance: yes from ubuntu terminal try sudo update-grub
[08:15] <zal> maybe i messed it up
[08:15] <bkc_> no... I mean "it is already installed"...
[08:15] <zal> its not as thers no signal
[08:15] <bkc_> the card *is* installed, otherwise tvtime would give you an error-message and quit...
[08:16] <zal> [ 3206.604517] [drm] nouveau 0000:02:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on tmds encoder (output 3)
[08:16] <bkc_> you have to tune the channels thou to make it work
[08:16] <zal> [ 1863.296213] tda827xa_set_params: could not write to tuner at addr: 0xc0
[08:16] <zal> how do i tune the channels then ?
[08:17] <bkc_> in tvtime...
[08:17] <bkc_> in the menues
[08:17] <bkc_> zal: Channel Management -> Scan Channels for signal
[08:18] <zal> i have saa7135 and 7133 is installed
[08:18] <bkc_> same driver
[08:19] <xkill> Romance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[08:21] <zal> bkc_: ther must be some way to troubleshoot
[08:21] <Romance> I think i messed up with the partition, i installed the ubuntu into the Windows 7 partition, and i set another empty partition as a windows 7 loader
[08:21] <Romance> xkill
[08:21] <zal> medion hyvbrid
[08:21] <Romance> because i tried to find/mount the Windows partition , but it is not there
[08:22] <liran> let there me much rejoicing, for i am back
[08:22] <zal> any clues for tvtuner ?
[08:23] <xkill> romance: sudo fdisk -l
[08:25] <Romance> you want me to pastebin it xkill?
[08:25] <xkill> do you see any ntfs partitions?
[08:26] <msmith0957> bkc_: buhman: i'm not exactly sure what belongs in this new asound.conf file i had to create.
[08:28] <Romance> xkill : http://pastebin.com/a5ty9k7d
[08:29] <bkc_> msmith0957: here's mine, I have dual soundcards thou and is set the card #2... : http://codepad.org/GXGUmC08
[08:29] <bkc_> msmith0957: also, it's .asoundrc, not .asound.conf :)
[08:29] <Janos> zal, i have one of those at home and in 10.04 i had to pass some manual parameters to the module because it was been detected as something else, had to do something like, modprobe card=x tuner=y
[08:30] <Janos> zal, here is a list if cards/tuners you can use http://www.techsupportteam.org/forum/linux-alternative-os/5417-saa7134-pci-tv-tuner-cards-linux.html
[08:30] <Janos> zal, i'm sure there is a complete list somewhere in the kernel docs, still looking for a link, but you get the idea
[08:31] <msmith0957> bkc_: its not ~/.asoundrc/asound.conf ?
[08:31] <bkc_> no
[08:31] <bkc_> ~/.asoundrc
[08:32] <idefix> my clipboard seems broken, I can only paste with the middle mouse button but copying won't work with ctrl-c
[08:32] <xkill> romance: you will need to run some recovery software. it looks like your ntfs partition is broken
[08:33] <bkc_> idefix: in the terminal? that's normal :)
[08:33] <xkill> all the stuff is there, but only recovery software can get to it
[08:33] <bkc_> linux has 2 clipboards :)
[08:33] <idefix> bkc_ well I got an error window of some program
[08:33] <zal> Janos: but cableguy installer passed by was watching prime
[08:33] <xkill> photorec is a good linux option that is easy to use
[08:33] <zal> and now no more watching
[08:33] <zal> o_0
[08:34] <msmith0957> bkc_: hmm. Neither .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf is normally required. You should be able to play and record sound without either (assuming your mic and speakers are hooked up properly). If your system won't work without one, and you are running the most current version of ALSA, you probably should file a bug report. lol, should i file a bug report ??
[08:34] <idefix> bkc_ with the request to e-mail it to the makers and it says to cut and paste so it should work
[08:34] <Janos> zal, found it, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134 basically you have to modprobe saa7134 card=x tuner=y to manually tell the module which card you have in case the autodetect breaks, once you find it you can add it to /etc/module with the parameters you found to work
[08:34] <Romance> xkill : are you sure i didnt formatted my windows 7 partition? :(  ,what do you recommend for recovery software
[08:34] <zal> i isnt it saa7135 ? cuz thats what it is in lspci ?
[08:34] <xkill> the filesystem is listed as "unknown" yes. formatting it would have put it into a known filesystem
[08:35] <bkc_> a tip to any op in here... set mode to -q $a, just incase ChanServ/NickServ goes down again... they seem unstable atm
[08:35] <zal> whats the command i should issue for tuner card settings ?
[08:35] <Janos> zal, yes but the kernel driver saa7134 also handles 7135 cards
[08:35] <zal> ah
[08:36] <pentagonpie> just installed ubuntu 12.04, the screen image is out of my screen
[08:36] <Romance> xkill : thanks ^^ , any recommendation for recovery software , i told you i have Windows 7 bootable usb, tried to repair/recover from it, but failed
[08:36] <VinnyAtaide> Hello, I am back, just installed windows and then came here to the live cd, linux still didn't found my windows partition
[08:36] <VinnyAtaide> It's like windows and linux are seeing two different devices.
[08:37] <zal> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206397/
[08:37] <xkill> well if you are to recover you data, you will need a drive that is as big as all the data you wan to recover (either connected to that machine or to a networked computer)
[08:38] <zal> what does every pony do ?
[08:38] <Janos> zal, sudo rmmod saa7134, then sudo modprobe saa7134 card=x tuner=y, where x is a value from the list i just gave you and y is a value from this list http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.tuner
[08:38] <xkill> and stop using that drive immediately. make a bootable USB that has a live linux on it so you dont write anything more to that disk
[08:38] <Romance> xkill : i dont get it, any tutorials
[08:38] <zal> ERROR: Module saa7134 is in use by saa7134_alsa
[08:39] <Janos> zal, remove that other module then
[08:39] <pentagonpie> just installed ubuntu 12.04, the screen image is out of my screen
[08:39] <zal> same error
[08:39] <idefix> bkc_ what could be the matter with my clipboard?
[08:40] <bkc_> idefix: nothing... linux works that way...
[08:40] <Janos> zal, sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa
[08:40] <zal> from tvtime videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: Invalid argument
[08:40] <zal> sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa
[08:40] <zal> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[08:40] <Janos> zal, close all program that might be using the card before trying to remove the modules
[08:41] <zal> tvserver ?
[08:41] <VinnyAtaide> http://i.imgur.com/mD2Go.png tihs is my windows, and http://i.imgur.com/RPwFC.png this is my linux live-cd
[08:41] <pentagonpie> ubuntu 12.04 is out of range for my screen, what should I do?
[08:41] <Janos> zal, i would say something with a tv in it's name applies :)
[08:41] <zal> i have no clue tho
[08:42] <zal> nothing is running but its busy
[08:42] <Janos> close everything you can, it wont let you remove it otherwise
[08:42] <zal> only have terminal and firefox open
[08:42] <Janos> try it again
[08:42] <zal> try what again ?
[08:43] <zal> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[08:43] <zal> findout whouses saa7134_alsa
[08:45] <msmith0957> bkc_: so my .asoundrc file simply reads "pcm.card0 { type hw  card 0 }" . also, only reason why i was mentioning asound.conf earlier is because buhman mentioned earlier the change i would be required to make would be in there. After adding those few lines above, is there anything i have to restart?
[08:45] <Janos> zal, you can try sudo rmmod -f saa7134_alsa
[08:46] <bkc_> msmith0957: buhman was refering to 2 separate files, not a file in a directory :) and no, nothing has to be restarted :)
[08:47] <msmith0957> bkc_: so, there is an 'asound.conf' i have to create/modify somewhere ? Still no audio :/
[08:48] <bkc_> asound.conf is just an optional name for .asoundrc
[08:48] <msmith0957> oh ok
[08:48] <VinnyAtaide> exit
[08:48] <mote> How do i in mount a disk in fstab if theres Spaces in the label: "WD 1Gb RED"
[08:49] <Lantizia> Hey, I know you can make an image file, partition the file, install DOS in to it - and have GRUB boot it.  (useful for BIOS updates)
[08:49] <Lantizia> In theory could I do the same with Windows (useful for other firmware updates)
[08:50] <msmith0957> bkc_: what's next? i'm not sure what i should be trying here
[08:52] <xeli> Hi, I've got a laptop with 12gb ram, and I'd like to be able to hibernate. But I don't want to lose 12gb of my ssd all the time, is there a way for ubuntu to only use 12gb when im hibernating?
[08:53] <xeli> 12gb would be used by swap obviously
[08:53] <Janos> msmith0957, can you pastebin, aplay -L and aplay -l
[08:54] <Janos> msmith0957, and cat /proc/asound/cards, sorry
[08:56] <msmith0957> Janos: with pleasure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206424/
[08:59] <Janos> msmith0957, so your problem is, you can't select your card in sound gui right ?
[08:59] <synfin1> I've been trying to install 12.04 onto a Dell 14z-5423 (Inspiron).  The computer has an SSD for windows, and a 500gb sata.  Ubuntu can see the 500gb sata via fdisk.  But it cannot see it from the installation menu when selecting partitions.  Any ideas?
[08:59] <Wizard> Hi.
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:did you change BIOS to ahci?
[08:59] <msmith0957> Janos: yes, that was the original problem, the actual hardware device for the card wasnt being populated in the vol control gui
[09:00] <msmith0957> But since then, the gui is disabled now that PulseAudio has been killed
[09:00] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I will try that and see what happens.
[09:01] <onto> Hi! I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and I tried installing rstudio (http://rstudio.org/) and the installation went fine but when I run rstudio, it gives the following error:
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:ok mate good luck
[09:02] <onto> symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_key_file_unref
[09:02] <Janos> msmith0957, well pulse is a bit resilient and i think it's still running, pactl info ?
[09:03] <msmith0957> Janos: sorry, not familar with pactl, but you wanted me to run 'pactl info' ?
[09:04] <Janos> msmith0957, right
[09:04] <msmith0957> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206424/
[09:04] <msmith0957> nvm that..
[09:04] <msmith0957> mike@MikeM7700:~$ pactl info
[09:04] <msmith0957> Connection failure: Connection refused
[09:04] <msmith0957> pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[09:04] <FloodBot1> msmith0957: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:05] <msmith0957> eh, "Connection FailureL connection refused. pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused."
[09:05] <Janos> onto, that sounds more like a rstudio issue
[09:05] <onto> Janos: so it's not libgobject?
[09:08] <Janos> msmith0957, ok, it's dead then, let's try to start it again and make it work, pulse might suck, but at this point is probably easier to remove ubuntu than pulse :P, do 'pulseaudio --start'
[09:08] <krababbel> doesn't the pulse daemon start automatically when needed?
[09:09] <msmith0957> had it killed temporarily ;)
[09:09] <msmith0957> but, its started now
[09:09] <synfin1> Ok, I tested ahci for sata, and it can still only see the ssd.
[09:10] <bkc_> synfin1: are you using raid?
[09:10] <Janos> onto, well it's weird that rstudio u suppose to work with ubuntu 10.04+ and yet it's looking for a symbol that does not exists in the libgobject library that comes with your ubuntu 10.04, so my guess here is, that it probably needs a newer version of this lib, try it with 12.04 and if it works, report a bug to rstudio
[09:10] <Janos> msmith0957, ok, now pactl info again pls
[09:11] <krababbel> msmith0957: when you do pulseaudio -k to kill it, it will start itself when any program needs audio, like pavucontrol for example. Btw. I always started it wit pulseaudio -D
[09:11] <msmith0957> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206456/
[09:11] <onto> Janos: for the record, I had upgraded libgobject manually once because it was a dependency of some software (and the repository didn't have it)
[09:11] <synfin1> bkc: No.  The SSD is 32gb, sata is 500gb.  I believe teh ssd is just for windows to boot quickly.  If I run fdisk I can see both hard drives, but the Ubuntu installation screen only sees /dev/sdb (ssd)
[09:11] <msmith0957> krababbel: yes, it would normally, but not if you disable autospawning
[09:11] <krababbel> you can also do 'pacmd list' msmith0957
[09:12] <krababbel> of course msmith0957
[09:12] <Janos> onto, then i think we found the problem :)
[09:12] <bkc_> synfin1: try checking "partition manually" and continue :)
[09:13] <msmith0957> Janos: krababbel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206459/
[09:14] <krababbel> msmith0957: what is the issue, you only got dummy output?
[09:14] <msmith0957> yes sir
[09:14] <synfin1> bkc_: There isn't any such icon on the screen.  It is the "Installation Type" screen.  It has options to create new partition table, add, change, delete, revert, as well as boot loader installation choice.  But none of the new/add/change buttons work
[09:14] <onto> Janos: so what's the solution? :)
[09:14] <synfin1> they are just "frozen"
[09:14] <MonkWithTheFunk> hello channel. ubuntu 11.10 for intel64 installed on my desktop doesnt work well. ubuntu freezes on my acer ax1700
[09:15] <bkc_> MonkWithTheFunk: upgrade :)
[09:15] <MonkWithTheFunk> it works fine on my laptop though
[09:15] <krababbel> msmith0957: I got that using xdm, or lightdm too maybe, at boot something takes control of the audio device before pulse can, that's what #pulse told me. For me slim login manager worked. I guess it is a bug in boot process.
[09:16] <makro_> hi, I have a asrock ad2700 itx board (Cedarview). Running 12.04.01 LTS, the graphicscard is not supported / not accelerated. Installing the proprietary drm driver and rebooting results in 1/4 screensize, the rest of the screen is black/white pixel. Installing the 3d acceleration driver results in black screen after rebooting.Currently I have deinstalled both drivers. Searching the web had no helpful hints for me so far. What can I do to get my g
[09:16] <makro_> raphics running?
[09:16] <msmith0957> krababbel: i'm running a fairly stock install of ubuntu. its been a no-go ever since installation, which was only a few days ago
[09:16] <MonkWithTheFunk> well eset security wouldnt currently support an upgrade. 12.04 LTS is to new
[09:17] <synfin1> MonkWithTheFunk: ESET being antivirus software?
[09:17] <MonkWithTheFunk> yes
[09:18] <Janos> onto, reinstall the library package from the ubuntu repo and that should work, probably the other stuff will break though
[09:18] <synfin1> MonkWithTheFunk: You don't need antivirus software with Linux.
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:did you correctly installed sata cables to mainboard?
[09:19] <MonkWithTheFunk> i prefer to use it
[09:19] <krababbel> msmith0957: mine is a minimal installation, and the others had the standard too probably. Also some, including me, had problems getting xdm or lightdm to load automatically sometimes too. msmith0957: Is the card in /proc/asound/... ? Some generic onboard I guess?
[09:20] <synfin1>  lotuspsychje: It is a notebook computer.  Windows boots fine.
[09:20] <onto> Janos: Thanks for the help!
[09:20] <ucbs>  i am texting now
[09:20] <ucbs> can u see my text
[09:20] <bkc_> ucbs: yes
[09:20] <ucbs> ty are u here
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:thats really odd, the ssd dont show then hmm
[09:21] <ucbs> hi bkc
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:whats default Os the notebook?
[09:21] <ucbs>  hi all
[09:21] <msmith0957> krababbel: its an ALC880 (Intel HD) on an alienware m7700 aka clevo d900t laptop
[09:21] <synfin1> MonkWithTheFunk: They are you CPU cycles and money.
[09:21] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: Windows 7
[09:21] <krababbel> msmith0957: ALC880 sounds like realtek, I had 888 and 889, they should work great
[09:21] <SunSunny> hello all..am facing problems trying to make a home ftp server
[09:22] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I'm trying for dual boot.  I'm running out of ideas though.  Fdisk does see the disks.  The installatio menu does not
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:you trying singleboot ubuntu?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> ah
[09:22] <msmith0957> krababbel: i wish it worked great =p, yes realtek, and on board
[09:22] <bkc_> msmith0957: found your problem... it's a Dell ^^
[09:22] <synfin1> I could chroot I guess and pull something off, but I really didn't want to do that
[09:22] <msmith0957> bkc_: NO! this was before it was dell ;)
[09:22] <ucbs>  hi hiost do  u know some interesting room for me thanks
[09:22] <MonkWithTheFunk> i prefer to use ESET for linux synfin1
[09:22] <SunSunny> will really appreciate if anyone can help me out
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:there are several known issues with dualboot and win7, i think if you try singleboot it will show
[09:22] <ucbs> i aM CHATING with someoone in irssi u can try it
[09:22] <SunSunny> is this the right room to ask for ftp server help ?
[09:23] <bkc_> !ask | SunSunny
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !test | ucbs
[09:23] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: OK, I'll try dd'ing the partition to blank it out and then try booting with linux alone
[09:23] <SunSunny> lol ok :)
[09:23] <maxxxxx> hi
[09:23] <cute_bettong> hi i have a samsung series 7 chronos and it has an odd sound problem, if i plug the microphone jack in all the way there's no sound, but if i pull the jack out just a tad both laptop speakers and external speakers run, alsa-hda-dkms_0.201209142343~oneiric1_all.deb seems to fix the problem but interfears with IDJC, can anyone help me find a proper solution?
[09:23] <maxxxxx> i need help
[09:23] <maxxxxx> pls
[09:23] <ucbs> can u see me ty
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:many dualboots with win7 also cant grub into win7 anymore either
[09:23] <krababbel> msmith0957: you could install another login manager and get it working I'd guess
[09:24] <synfin1> ah
[09:24] <ucbs> are u here ty2001hk
[09:24] <ucbs> yes
[09:24] <ucbs> windosxp
[09:24] <ucbs> do u like this color
[09:24] <krababbel> msmith0957: there are bugs in plymouth with the boot process they told me here
[09:24] <maxxxxx> i have BT5r3 on my mac,  and the updates center tells me that i could update ubuntu to 12.04.
[09:24] <msmith0957> krababbel: so you're saying someone else got a lock on the audio prior to login, so now pulse can't access the resource ?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:your ssd contains also part with win7 my guess right<?
[09:24] <jp_Hranice> Hallo. There is some curious behaviour of online accounts on my machine. It doubles accounts amounts. But nex time launch is averithing all right. Have I raise bug on launchpad ?
[09:24] <maxxxxx> will this erase my bt ?
[09:25] <krababbel> msmith0957: yes
[09:25] <maxxxxx> heyyy
[09:25] <maxxxxx> can any1 help me please ?
[09:25] <richyoungrush> help what
[09:25] <bkc_> !backtrack | maxxxxx
[09:25] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: yes, just part of the OS
[09:25] <cute_bettong> whats your question maxxxxx
[09:25] <Janos> msmith0957, ok next thing here would be to increase logging to almost pornographic detail and see if we can find something there, from now on this is what i would do to find the problem, no idea what it's though :P
[09:25] <user82> hi. can i install kde without installing the kubuntu boot screen?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> maxxxxx:join #backtrack-linux
[09:25] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I was trying to install it on the sda (sata), but it wouldn't see it.
[09:25] <maxxxxx> i have BT5r3 on my mac,  and the updates center tells me that i could update ubuntu to 12.04.
[09:25] <richyoungrush> yes
[09:25] <maxxxxx> will it erase bt ?
[09:26] <richyoungrush> but i like a dos system i like it
[09:26] <cute_bettong> so does anyone have any idea as to my issue?
[09:26] <richyoungrush> aNs
[09:26] <msmith0957> Janos: that does sound graphic. are we talking something along the lines of launching pulseaudio -vvvv ?
[09:26] <richyoungrush> and u ?ty
[09:26] <krababbel> msmith0957: I guess the livecd did have sound?
[09:26] <SunSunny> i've setup a local ftp server on my Windows 7 machine using ftpzilla server...i can access the ftp server from the LAN but not from WAN :( however if i try to access my local ftp server from net2ftp.com I can access it but not the usual way of ftp://xx.xx.xx.xx from wan..please help
[09:26] <msmith0957> krababbel: i dont recall it having any, no :/
[09:26] <maxxxxx> i cant't post in backtrack-linux
[09:26] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I will try flushing the drives and see if it works
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:i think the netbook is designed to run the Os from ssd default
[09:26] <msmith0957> krababbel: it did in XP before the reinstall !
[09:26] <synfin1> k
[09:26] <richyoungrush> no i am chatting with u in irssi by cam
[09:26] <cute_bettong> im having a sound issue with my laptop's headphone jack, it works fine in win 7 but dosen't work right in ubuntu 12.04, anyone have any ideas?
[09:27] <bkc_> SunSunny: did you open the ports in the router?
[09:27] <bkc_> SunSunny: also, not related to ubuntu :/
[09:27] <SunSunny> yes i did that
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:maybe its the time to loose the windows for good :p
[09:27] <jp_Hranice> There is some curious behaviour of online accounts on my machine. It doubles accounts amounts. But nex time launch is averithing all right. Have I raise bug on launchpad ?
[09:27] <SunSunny> ok can you suggest me the right room to ask sorry
[09:27] <richyoungrush> how can i split windows thanks
[09:27] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I can't, I'm building this for a friend :( .  I already did that on my personal notebook.
[09:28] <maxxxxx> heyy
[09:28] <MonkWithTheFunk> windows is a pretty good platform
[09:28] <bkc_> SunSunny: try #ftpzilla, or check their website for any irc-channels :)
[09:28] <maxxxxx> i cant't post in backtrack-linux
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !register | maxxxxx
[09:28] <SunSunny> thanks bkc
[09:28] <bkc_> SunSunny: np
[09:28] <cute_bettong> maxxxxx, whats your problem?
[09:28] <krababbel> msmith0957: pulse -vvvv may just tell you it loaded the dummy sink, since pulse can just act as a server without any card I think
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> MonkWithTheFunk:thats not really the channel for that
[09:29] <Janos> msmith0957,  i was thinking pulseaudio --log-level debug not sure if -v does the same thing here
[09:29] <krababbel> msmith0957: just replacing the login manager worked for me
[09:30] <Janos> msmith0957, can you pastebin the output pls
[09:30] <maxxxxx> thanks
[09:30] <msmith0957> krababbel: i'll look at that if none of this works :/
[09:31] <richyoungrush> how can tell me where do i rush for chatter
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:i think it might help if you would install win7, and make new partition from there to use for ubuntu afterwards
[09:31] <richyoungrush> who
[09:31] <cute_bettong> so does anyone know the answer to my question?
[09:31] <msmith0957> Janos: anything I should do besides just running it, and then killing it ?
[09:32] <synfin1> lotuspsychje: I don't think I was clear.  THe problem is the installation procedure does not see the disks.  Ubuntu itself (via fdisk) can see it just fine.  But when I double click on "Install 12.04 to hard drive" (sic), that tool cannot see the drive
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong:maybe a driver needed install?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> synfin1:yes i understood it good, i think the drive not showing means the drive belongs to win7..try single boot at first
[09:33] <msmith0957> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206483/
[09:33] <cute_bettong> lotuspsychje, well i installed alsa-hda-dkms_0.201209142343~oneiric1_all.deb and it did fix the issue, but it made IDJC audio all choppy, the minute i removed it it went back to being geeky with the headphone jack, plug the headphones in all the way and no sound, pull the plug out just a tiny bit and there's sound but it's low quality
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong:any var/log errors that can help us?
[09:34] <cute_bettong> lotuspsychje, i don't know what you would need or how to get the log
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong: you can try /var/log/syslog to see if audio got issues
[09:34] <joshmc> Testing for an irc plugin. Hi, ubottu.
[09:35] <joshmc> ... and here I was hoping for a response.
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and start messing with it to see whats happening
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !test | joshmc
[09:36] <cute_bettong> lotuspsychje, there's alot of stuff in there, what am i looking for? or do you want me to paste the entire log to pastebin?
[09:36] <Janos> msmith0957, do you have any wav file around we can use for testing ?
[09:36] <joshmc> ty lotuspsychje. Looks like I have to tweak the triggers again.
[09:37] <Janos> msmith0957, if not, get one on google, no matter what
[09:37] <msmith0957> Janos: i'm playing pandora continuously as ive been debugging this. but need a wav specificaly ?
[09:37] <msmith0957> speaker-test ?
[09:37] <Janos> msmith0957, sounds good, also give me, ls -l /dev/snd/
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong:maybe kernel msges about audio card
[09:38] <msmith0957> Janos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206489/
[09:39] <houman> Hi, I have just compiled git (with make) and it created lots of git related directories into my home (e.g. bin, lib, libexec, share and each includes git related files)  Do I have to run 'make' with a prefix to avoid this mess? Why didn't it keep everything in the /usr/local/src as expected?
[09:39] <houman> The idea is to commpile it in to a debian package
[09:40] <bekks> houman: You have to run configure with a specific prefix to avoid that.
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> cute_bettong:did you take a look in 'additional drivers' if your audio card got an alternate driver?
[09:40] <drupin> do i partition my flash drive ....before to install the live on in it to gain more than  4Gig of space as mentioned here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/
[09:41] <cute_bettong> lotuspsychje, yes, there's one for my video card, but im using the drivers from ATI website
[09:41] <xkill> you can do it before or after
[09:41] <drupin> or it should have the live OS persistant from before
[09:41] <cute_bettong> lotuspsychje, also nothings showing up when i insert or remove the headphone jack
[09:41] <joshmc> drupin: I'm not sure, but I think the pendrivelinux articles are fairly old. Is that dated?
[09:41] <jrib> houman: why compile git?  It's in the repositorise
[09:41] <houman> @bekks: ah I see. but there is no ./configure in git's source. What shall I do then?
[09:41] <xkill> dupin: best to partition before hand so you dont need another live disk to do it later
[09:41] <bekks> houman: Best thing is to use git from the official repos.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> cute_betong:maybe this can help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting
[09:42] <houman> jrib: I was just feeling I could do it. ;) I was wrong
[09:42] <Janos> msmith0957, now kill pulse and do aplay -L and tell me if there is anything other than null
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> !triggers > lotuspsychje
[09:42] <drupin> xkill: so with what sizez i assign the drives.. xkill
[09:43] <drupin> joshmc: no date given?
[09:43] <xkill> the system will be installed onto a !!2GB Fat16!! partition and the rest of the disk as an ext2 partition labeled casper
[09:43] <drupin> primary partion i give fat16 how much space?
[09:43] <houman> http://git-scm.com/ kind of intrigues you into installing the latest version. :)
[09:43] <msmith0957> Janos: the Pulse Audio Sound Server is still there, but I belive it is affectively killed. vol controls wont open bc "unable to connect to Pulse Audio"
[09:44] <drupin> 2Gb is enuff xkill
[09:44] <xkill> 2GB cuz thats the most you can get with fat16, and fat16 cuz it a lot faster than Fat32
[09:44] <drupin> ok
[09:44] <drupin> what i name this partition
[09:45] <Janos> msmith0957, and aplay -L ?
[09:45] <xkill> that fat16 partition; it doesnt matter, the USB creator will name it. the ext2 must be labeled casper
[09:45] <drupin> ok i make it 2 gigs a min
[09:45] <msmith0957> Janos: null,  Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)..... pulse, PulseAudio Sound Server
[09:46] <xkill> 2 gigs cuz thats all Fat16 can do. you want Fat16 cuz it is a lot faster than Fat32.
[09:46] <drupin> xkill: do i align to cylinders
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[09:47] <xkill> dont mess with that (what are you using that it's asking you te mess with the cylinders?)
[09:47] <drupin> lol ... its gparted.... xkill
[09:47] <xkill> k
[09:48] <drupin> cylenders looks cool but...
[09:48] <drupin> but i wont try it
[09:48] <msmith0957> drupin: if you're formatting a flash drive (?) i dont believe there are any real 'cylinders' anyway ;)
[09:49] <drupin> yes ... its just flash memory
[09:49] <drupin> ok now primary is fat16 with 2 Gigs...
[09:52] <drupin> now the second drive mu make casper or casper-rw as per this article http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/ the live persistant usb usb i am on now also has file named casper-rw
[09:53] <Janos> msmith0957, well, pulse does see your card, and according to the log, it's able to get a lock on the card, so what krababbel mentioned should not be the issue, al i see is pulse trying to open devices that do not exists, and not trying the devices that do exist
[09:53] <xkill> yup thats right
[09:53] <drupin> ok
[09:53] <drupin> casper-rw
[09:54] <drupin> ext2 or ext4
[09:54] <xkill> etx2
[09:54] <xkill> ext2
[09:54] <drupin> ext4 will be faster ?
[09:54] <msmith0957> Janos: when I was reading through the log output that i pasted, it seemed like there were a ton of errors relating to opening the devices via a particular format
[09:55] <drupin> and is swap good or bad to keep
[09:55] <msmith0957> and then eventually failed that the card had failed to load the module
[09:56] <drupin> my previous install used to freez when the swap was there
[09:56] <Janos> msmith0957, i'm going to take a wild guess here, but i think this might be related to udev not naming devices correctly, this should definitively be reported at launchpad
[09:56] <xkill> if you are going to use swap, its better to have it on a diff USB
[09:56] <drupin> i dint get .. diff usb?
[09:56] <msmith0957> Oh noes :/
[09:57] <drupin> means one usb dedicated to swap itself
[09:57] <xkill> if you are going to have a swap partition, do it on a second USB flash drive. or dont do it at all
[09:57] <msmith0957> Janos: was it you earlier that said this was almost definitely not a bug ? lol
[09:57] <Janos> msmith0957, now to fix it, yes i would try to remove pulse and wait to see if ppl at launchpad find anything, but removing pulse is not a task i should be doing at 4 am in the morning, so i think i'm going to call it for today
[09:57] <drupin> ok i dont do it
[09:57] <msmith0957> Janos: yes i concur.. 6am over here ! time for bed..
[09:57] <Janos> msmith0957, mm don't remember that :P
[09:58] <msmith0957> well, anyway, thanks a lot, appreciate your kind support
[09:58] <drupin> this casper is extended or primary... the first fat16 was primary
[09:58] <xkill> primary is better but it wont care either way
[09:59] <drupin> both can be primary?
[09:59] <xkill> they can be
[09:59] <drupin> ok i keep primary
[10:00] <krababbel> msmith0957: it should be easy trying a different login manager, you can add another, and set it as default
[10:00] <msmith0957> krababbel: yeah, i might give that a try as well tomorrow, but it seems like that may not be the issue ?
[10:01] <krababbel> msmith0957: it is an easy try, I did not see that log Janos mentioned
[10:01] <hicham> hi
[10:01] <drupin> xkill: primary->noname-fat16 / primary->casper-rw -ext2 .... correct
[10:01] <hicham> i have a problem
[10:01] <msmith0957> which log, from running pulseaudio debug output ?
[10:01] <krababbel> msmith0957: if that won't work, you just remove the login manager you added
[10:01] <hicham> i want to install ubuntu with windows 7
[10:01] <xkill> drupin; correct
[10:01] <krababbel> msmith0957: not sure, the one where Janos saw pulse getting lock on the card
[10:01] <Janos> msmith0957, no problem, good news is, your audio device is working, so all you have to do now is get rid of pulse, hint, start here /usr/share/alsa, make sure you backup everyything in there and simply start breaking apart everything that has to do with pulse :P
[10:01] <hicham> how i can protect windows directory when i using fedora
[10:02] <krababbel> msmith0957: but I am really new to linux and ubuntu too
[10:02] <xkill> hicham; so do it
[10:02] <drupin> ok i apply it now
[10:02] <Janos> krababbel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206483/ there, look for lock
[10:02] <krababbel> msmith0957: and removing pulse would be the last thing I'd do
[10:02] <msmith0957> Janos: that sounds terrifying haha
[10:02] <hicham> Xkill when i using fedora may be a malware download to my pc if i run windows so gonna infected
[10:02] <hicham> how to protect windows directory when i using ubuntu
[10:03] <krababbel> Janos: it locks Audio0, could be the dummy output, I don't know
[10:03] <hicham> sorry not fedora i mean ubuntu
[10:03] <xkill> ubuntu isnt going to give windows a virus
[10:04] <hicham> Xkill i don't mean that ubuntu give windows a virus i mean when im using browser may be a malware or virus download to my pc and ubuntu don't read it but if i start windows it very danger ?
[10:04] <Janos> krababbel, check the rest, it's trying to open devices that don't exist and the device is working on is "alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0" that name looks a lot like a sound card to me
[10:04] <xkill> no winows is safe no matter how many viruses ubuntu downloads
[10:04] <drupin> ok xkill now i install selecting the f16 partition
[10:05] <hicham> thank you bro :) happy life for and i hope everything good for you bro
[10:05] <drupin> full install
[10:05] <hicham> you are good man :)
[10:05] <zal> 99-oh scam
[10:05] <xkill> ddrupin; using a usb creator that supports live mode right? (like linuxl live usb creator)
[10:05] <zal> no still cant scan channels
[10:06] <Janos> msmith0957, it's terrifying, last time i did it was because i needed digital pass through on my xbmc and it work, but never had to courage to do apt-get upgrade ever again :P
[10:06] <hicham> about me i will install it with webi :
[10:06] <hicham> :)))
[10:06] <zal> if i can scan can i then server to ?
[10:06] <zal> howto scan ?
[10:06] <msmith0957> Janos: so with the device names being mismatched, youre saying that because pulseaudio is trying to open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p which doesnt exist?
[10:06] <xkill> hicham; that'll be just fine.
[10:07] <krababbel> Janos: pulse will always try to open devices automatically as far as I know
[10:07] <zal> ?.?
[10:07] <xkill> hicham; but if windows breaks, so will your linux
[10:07] <drupin> xkill: i am inside the persistent installed usb in live mode
[10:07] <zal> cmake for ubuntu win psp psvita ps3 ?
[10:07] <msmith0957> Janos: bc I only have pcmC0D6c, and pcmC0D6p , along with controlC0 / hwC0D0/1 but doesnt appear to be trying to acces those
[10:08] <Janos> msmith0957, correct, i have no idea where pulse is getting that info from, apparently is from udev but, should be udev the same that name the device files under /dev in the first place
[10:08] <krababbel> Janos: could be it tried opening the real card first, and then trying "others"
[10:08] <xkill> ive never done it that way. i always end up with junk a blank screen instead of booting
[10:08] <drupin> I used the startup disk created to make this live persistent USB
[10:09] <krababbel> msmith0957: Janos got to go now too
[10:09] <xkill> cool. its never worked 4 me
[10:09] <jeremyst> i have trouble loging in to ubuntu 12.04, i have to login to unity2d first before i can login to unity.
[10:09] <msmith0957> krababbel: its only trying 1 though
[10:09] <Janos> msmith0957, exactly, dunno why it tries that ones that don't exists, and not the ones that do exist
[10:09] <drupin> ok
[10:09] <Guest40241> ok
[10:09] <krababbel> msmith0957: you could try asking that in #pulseaudio maybe
[10:09] <Janos> krababbel, kk thanks for the help
[10:09] <msmith0957> yeah, i'll have to take a look
[10:09] <zal> thank u come back gain
[10:09] <krababbel> good luck :)
[10:09] <jeremyst> i have trouble loging in to ubuntu 12.04, i have to login to unity2d first before i can login to unity.
[10:10] <msmith0957> but yeah, i'm out of here as well, peace
[10:10] <jeremyst> that was before and after installing fglrx.
[10:10] <zal> howto tuner install tvtime autoscan.xml ?
[10:10] <Janos> night everyone
[10:11] <Kira-T> Is it possible to keep a widget above all windows?
[10:11] <Kira-T> under kubuntu
[10:11] <zal> TvTunerAutoAIO.Sh
[10:11] <drupin> download updates while installing select or deselect
[10:12] <zal> impossible
[10:13] <jeremyst> i have trouble loging in to ubuntu 12.04, i have to login to unity2d first before i can login to unity.
[10:13] <jeremyst> that was before and after installing fglrx.
[10:13] <zal> how does one install and login to unity gain ?
[10:13] <t4b> I've got a software RAID with two 1TB drives. There is one partition on it, which I've encrypted with Truecrypt. Now suddenly the RAID stopped being assembled automatically on boot, but "mdadm --assemble --scan" works fine. According to "mdadm --detail /dev/md0" it should be working fine. But when I try to mount the partition with Truecrypt it claims the password would be wrong; or there would be no truecrypt volume (or, I assume, the truecrypt vo
[10:13] <t4b> lume could be broken). What could have happened and what can I try to fix it?
[10:14] <bekks> t4b: Which raid level diod you use?
[10:14] <zal> maybe a node surveillet some probs
[10:15] <t4b> bekks: It's mirrored. 1.
[10:15] <tingazik> How do i disable this annoying resize the window when you drag it to the sides thing?
[10:15] <xkill> drupin; i've only done this with unetbootin, linux live usb creator, and universal usb installer.
[10:15] <drupin> ok
[10:15] <blackshirt> how
[10:16] <zal> µxkilTinyLinuxUb plz
[10:17] <blackshirt> keep polite zal
[10:17] <zal> USBLinux or ubuntu for psp ps3 xbox psvita xor mum
[10:18] <N03L> Hey guys
[10:18] <N03L> Any of you experts on PS3s?
[10:18] <blackshirt> maybe someone
[10:19] <jeremyst> i have trouble loging in to ubuntu 12.04, i have to login to unity2d first before i can login to unity.
[10:19] <jeremyst> that was before and after installing fglrx.
[10:19] <blackshirt> jeremyst, maybe you need reinstall your graphic card
[10:19] <drupin> it is saying no root file defined in fat16
[10:20] <jeremyst> but it also happened before i have installed ati driver.
[10:20] <tingazik> How do i disable this annoying resize the window when you drag it to the sides thing?
[10:20] <drupin> root file system
[10:20] <jeremyst> that was fresh install.
[10:20] <blackshirt> drupin, fat16?
[10:20] <drupin> install on fat16 USB
[10:21] <drupin> blackshirt: primary->noname-fat16 / primary->casper-rw -ext2 ....
[10:22] <drupin> the options in change is /dos /windows
[10:24] <zal> like /linux /autowindow or lindows ?
[10:24] <jhker> hello :)
[10:24] <zal> hi
[10:24] <drupin> mount point of fat16 i kept as /
[10:24] <zal> just came to say hello
[10:24] <jhker> hoping someone can give me some simple advice... i think i stuffed my VM
[10:24] <N03L> I got ylod for my ps3 recently, and all my data (save files) are stuck on the drive.
[10:24] <drupin> and for ext2 home is fine?
[10:25] <N03L> I've heard that there's no way to read the files from your ps3 hdd via PC.
[10:25] <zal> USBBoot Linux or ubuntu for ps3 :)
[10:25] <zal> UsbCobra Ubuntu loader ?
[10:25] <N03L> But was wondering if there was anyway to try a DIY repair to, hopefully; bring my ps3 back to life, long enough at least, to retrieve all my data via usb plugin.
[10:26] <drupin> xkill: ?
[10:26] <zal> its dead ?
[10:26] <zal> N03L: what about putting it in service mode by holding power button a minute for servecie mode
[10:27] <zal> ik ben met jou nie getrouw
[10:27] <jhker> It would seem I'm chown'd my files from /etc/ to myself... not i can't sudo at all... i can't change it back either..
[10:27] <zal> niet van je houden je eiegen
[10:27] <zal> dit en dat
[10:27] <jrib> jhker: reinstall
[10:27] <zal> dat je gaat
[10:27] <jhker> really?
[10:27] <zal> lol
[10:27] <jhker> its a remote machine...
[10:28] <jhker> jrib: what are my options here?
[10:28] <jrib> jhker: yep.  That's the fastest way since otherwise you'd need to get some reference for what the ownership of each file /should/ be and then apply it.  If you choose to go this route, it will take you more time, but you could use any other working system (with at least all the packages that the broken system has) and the setfacl command with --restore
[10:29] <zal> hjHKER the universe
[10:29] <esing> Hello.
[10:29] <esing> Is there something similar to Autoit/AutohHotkey in Linux?
[10:29] <jhker> jrib: you mean reinstall ubuntu... i.e. scratch!
[10:29] <N03L> zal: Cheers for that. I'll give it a try.
[10:29] <zal> :)
[10:30] <jrib> jhker: if you don't have sudo access, don't have root access, and don't have physical access then there's not much you can do anyway
[10:30] <N03L> Can the 'hairdryer' fix help?
[10:30] <zal> cant cobrausb ?
[10:31] <jhker> jrib: what does "Su" do ?
[10:31] <xkill> drupin; to use the ext2 partition, first delete the casper-rw file then boot from the drive
[10:31] <jrib> jhker: "su" by itself will attempt to change to the root user
[10:31] <bekks> jhker: It makes you the "_s_uper _ u_ser"
[10:32] <jhker> hmm - so is there a chown function for SU?
[10:32] <jrib> jhker: functions are not different when you are root.  Are you root?
[10:32] <jhker> i.e. su --> chown --> /etc/ --> root
[10:32] <drupin> xkill: primary->mount point "/" -fat16 ...... primary->label-casper-rw mount point /home -ext2 ....
[10:32] <ardian_> Hi how do I know what graphic driver I am using
[10:32] <jrib> jhker: by the way, it's a good idea to use "su -" instead of "su"
[10:32] <zal> drop.sh
[10:33] <drupin> xkill: this is completely new install no file on this flash drive to delete
[10:33] <jhker> not and don't seem to be able to get root anymore since I chowned /etc/
[10:33] <zal> maybe ur removed from active suid
[10:33] <jrib> jhker: chowning /etc should not affect your ability to do "su -" if you've set a root password for some reason
[10:33] <xkill> you are using a different tool. i cant help you with a tool i've never used
[10:33] <zal> sudo su
[10:33] <timposey> I am having trouble getting a Nexxt USB 54 G wireless device connected to my ubuntu 10.04 machine.  I used the ndiswrapper and it has detected the device, however in the NetworkManager Applet, no wireless devices are listed.
[10:33] <zal> su root
[10:33] <drupin> ok let me try
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> timposey  you may need usb-modeswitch
[10:34] <N03L> zal: just read up on cobrausb, thing is I have to bring my ps3 to life before I'm able to transfer data.
[10:35] <jhker> yes - luck i set a root password... i 'su root' now have root access
[10:35] <jhker> so i might be good.
[10:36] <bekks> jhker: Thats not supported, since sudo is the preferred way to get root access on Ubuntu.
[10:36] <bekks> :)
[10:36] <jhker> bekks: what's not supported?
[10:37] <bekks> jhker: Using su onstead of sudo :)
[10:37] <bekks> jhker: But what did you do with /etc/ so far?
[10:37] <jrib> jhker: it's still going to take you longer than a reinstall, and you should use "su -" not "su" or "su root"
[10:37] <bekks> jrib: You cant use su at all on Ubuntu be default, since by default, there is no root pw set.
[10:37] <bekks> So sudo is the only way to goi :)
[10:37] <jrib> bekks: yes...
[10:37] <bekks> *go
[10:38] <jhker> bekks; jrib: I just chown'd /etc/ by accient to modify a single file... ideally i'd like to chown back to root (?)
[10:38] <jrib> bekks: jhker has messed up the ownership of his /etc/sudoers so he can no longer use sudo
[10:38] <drupin> xkill: let me show you screen shot.. i am now on Ubuntu installer http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_09152012_-_10_34_47_AM-8bsu8tDi.png
[10:38] <jhker> jrib : correct
[10:38] <jrib> jhker: I assumed you had recursively chowned all of /etc.  If that's not the case (you just chowned /etc itself), then you should be good
[10:39] <jhker> chown -R jhkier /etc/
[10:40] <jhker> i figure not i have root i can: chown - R root:root /etc/ (?) and all good?
[10:40] <esing> if I click alt+F2 I get into a terminal
[10:40] <esing> how do I go back to normal desktop?
[10:40] <jrib> jhker: nope, not all things have root: ownership
[10:40] <bekks> jhker: What was the command you issued to change ownership?
[10:41] <bekks> jhker: So you messed it up.
[10:41] <jhker> bekks: sudo chown -R yourusername /var/www/
[10:42] <jhker> sorry / etc/ was my actual directory
[10:42] <timposey> MonkeyDust  I looked at modeswitch but it seems to just be for devices that have the driver onboard the device, I actually have the driver installed and the driver in ndiswrapper is actually saying the device is present, when I remove the device it says that it is not available, but nothing in the network manager applet.
[10:42] <xkill> drupin; sorry. looks like everything should be in the fat16 partition but you may need to add a --persistence to the boot
[10:43] <ripdisk_> hey, I'm trying to help my buddy get his stuff back from his ntfs partition, and for some reason it says th efile type is unknown....it's a win7 partition
[10:43] <ripdisk_> so
[10:43] <xkill> drupin; this is absolutely NOTHING like how i make my live USB drives
[10:43] <ripdisk_> i figured i'd mount with -t ntfs or wahtever
[10:43] <jhker> wooo hooo... i think it worked.
[10:43] <ripdisk_> but it's like
[10:43] <xkill> so i cant help any further
[10:43] <ripdisk_> THIS ISNT A VALID NTFS
[10:43] <jhker> i just changed back to root, and now i can sudo again.
[10:43] <ripdisk_> so
[10:43] <drupin> it wont get more than 4 GB if i put to use all of one partition
[10:44] <ripdisk_> why would it say UNKNOWN when i know it's NTFS
[10:44] <jrib> jhker: yes, but like I said, not all files in your /etc may be owned by root...
[10:44] <ripdisk_> cuz now it won't let me mount
[10:44] <jhker> jrib: can you please clarify this further - i'm not sure i understand
[10:44] <jrib> jhker: there are files in your /etc that have ownership other than root, not sure what else I can say
[10:44] <xkill> drupin; right cuz its not making a normal .iso that you would download from the website
[10:45] <drupin> i am doing a full install to the USB from the live usb in in now
[10:45] <jhker> jrib: 'other than root' do you mean I've created another problem by making them all 'root' ?
[10:45] <ripdisk_> I'M trying to mount an ntfs partition..... but it looks broken because the informationa bout the partition says it's an unknown filesystem..... but it's a win7 partition so it should be ntfs.....when I mount using the -t ntfs or wjhatever it says not a valid ntfs, but when I Take that part away, it says I have to specifi the type of filsystem.
[10:45] <jrib> jhker: it depends on what you have installed.  Some packages will install files in /etc that have different ownership
[10:46] <jrib> jhker: most (and I think all the default files in /etc) will be owned by root
[10:46] <ripdisk_> anybody have any clue why it would say UNKNOWN when I Know the filesystem of the partition is NTFS?\
[10:46] <xkill> you said you just wanted to overcome the 4gb limit for persistent live mode. if all you wanted to do was install all you had to do was install to a blank USB and be done with it
[10:46] <jhker> jrib: understood - well this has definitely been a lesson in being loose at my fingertips...
[10:47] <jhker> jrib: you mentioned something about using 'su -' instead of 'su' whats the reason for this?
[10:47] <jrib> jhker: su - will simulate a login and reset the environment
[10:50] <andornaut> I'm connected to two networks - LAN and Wireless (using gnome network manager). With both connected i can only connected to devices via the LAN connection, not to the Internet which is through the wireless connection. Anyone know how to get internet requests to route through the wireless instead?
[10:50] <jhker> jrib: many thanks for the help. I seem to be back on the move...
[10:52] <nikozzzzzz> i didnt understand your question.. you need to go to the internet over wireless not over lan cable ?
[10:53] <nikozzzzzz> then you try to remove the default route from your lan connection
[10:53] <nikozzzzzz> just an ip address and a netmask to be left for your lan
[10:53] <thufir_> is it still "startx" to start the GUI?
[10:54] <nikozzzzzz> yep it starts XSERVER
[10:54] <andornaut> nikozzzzzz: yep
[10:54] <andornaut> nikozzzzzz: ah, so remove the gateway from the lan connection settings ?
[10:54] <nikozzzzzz> open your network properties a
[10:54] <nikozzzzzz> yep
[10:55] <nikozzzzzz> try this. i think it should help
[10:56] <nikozzzzzz> when a OS sees two gateways it has no idea through which one to go
[10:56] <systemclient> As a user I can enable the wifi card using `nmcli nm wifi on`. How can I enable the wifi card as root?
[10:56] <nikozzzzzz> so we should deprive itfrom one gateway
[10:56] <nikozzzzzz> sudo
[10:56] <nikozzzzzz> type sudo in front of yiur command
[10:57] <nikozzzzzz> sudo ifup wlan0 up
[10:57] <nikozzzzzz> this could also do the trick
[10:57] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: there is no wlan0 interface at that point
[10:58] <thufir_> nikozzzzzz: I dunno, I thought there was something which changed a few years ago about that.  it wasn't deprecated?
[10:58] <thufir_> nikozzzzzz: startx I mean
[10:58] <nikozzzzzz> no startx runs ok as i know it.
[10:59] <nikozzzzzz> then insert your wlan instead of wlan0
[10:59] <andornaut> nikozzzzzz: I couldn't get it to work via network manager, so I just disabled hotplug for eth0 and set it up via /etc/network/interfaces (left wlan0 managed by netman). Works now, thanks.
[10:59] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: if I type ifconfig, it only shows eth0 and lo
[10:59] <nikozzzzzz> or type  'sudo' in front of your command
[10:59] <sivizius> hi
[11:00] <thufir_> nikozzzzzz: thanks
[11:00] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: I just did sudo -s
[11:00] <nikozzzzzz> systemclient yes it should do it. nomatterhow you obtain root previligies)
[11:01] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: the thing is: if I call that nmcli command from my user, it works. When I call it as root, it works. But if I as root call `bash -c 'nmcli …' me`, it does not work
[11:02] <nikozzzzzz> pity i dont have a pc for 6 month already.. i cant feel all the fun in finding new questions and new things in linux
[11:03] <nikozzzzzz> what does it say when it doesnt work ?
[11:03] <nikozzzzzz> what error
[11:03] <ardian_> Hi All how do I know what graphic driver I am using, my card is nvidia
[11:03] <nikozzzzzz> maybe you should write a full path to the program you run from root
[11:04] <nikozzzzzz> you are using nouveau if you installed ubuntu
[11:04] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: it works now … that is strange …
[11:05] <nikozzzzzz> it works when? you did somth or it just worked?
[11:05] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: I entered it into the console and it worked …
[11:05] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: but my udev script does not work yet …
[11:05] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: at least I did not see it work yet …
[11:05] <AceKing> I installed 12.04 onto a HP Pavillion DV-5500 laptop, and it keeps freezing. I think it's the graphics card that's causing it, which is a Nvidia GeForce Go 7150M. Anyone have any ideas on getting this to work?
[11:05] <nikozzzzzz> that is strange o.o
[11:06] <nikozzzzzz> it may be the kernel
[11:06] <nikozzzzzz> that freezes your notebook. or the fancontrol.do your fans spin?
[11:07] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: well udev call script A as root, which then calls script B via `su -c B --login me`
[11:07] <esing> Hmm
[11:07] <esing> How can I switch audiospeakers in Ubuntu by key
[11:08] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: oh … I tested it with bash -c, not with su -c …
[11:08] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: so yeah: su -c 'nmcli nm wifi on' me does *not* work
[11:08] <systemclient> although as me, I can run that command
[11:08] <nikozzzzzz> script calls script..hm
[11:08] <nikozzzzzz> did you try searhing google for the problem?
[11:08] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: since udev is root, and my script should run as the logged in user
[11:09] <systemclient> nikozzzzzz: I guess I just call nmci from A, that would work
[11:10] <nikozzzzzz> sorry cant help you with that(( i dont have a deep enough understanding
[11:10] <nikozzzzzz> there must be other ways for udev to run as user
[11:11] <nikozzzzzz> if this one dosent wok
[11:12] <cyberorg> hi, i've just added ubuntu live iso support to https://github.com/cyberorg/live-fat-stick so spamming here just in case it is useful to any of you
[11:12] <nikozzzzzz> goodbye people thatks for chat. i have togo , a new client arrivedto my office
[11:14] <zap_> hi. it seems that lc_collate=C ls does not sort files as it used to do, namely dot files and directories first
[11:14] <zap_> anyone with the same experience?
[11:16] <zap_> ls --group-directories=first is not what i want as the dot files appear after the non-dot directories
[11:18] <Plecto> How can having a harddrive plugged in make the xbmcbuntu stall indefenitly even before ever choosing to install anything to the drive?
[11:19] <acer> hi all ! can anyone tell me if I should have in hosts file at line 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost domain.com domain  ?
[11:22] <drupin> i have primary->mount point "/" -fat16 ...... primary->label-casper-rw mount point /home -ext2 ....
[11:23] <drupin> it says files system cannot be mounted on / as its not a fully-functional unix file system
[11:24] <gordonjcp> drupin: / being fat16 does sound pretty much insane
[11:24] <gordonjcp> how on earth did you get to this situation?
[11:24] <drupin> some one told be here its fast
[11:25] <gordonjcp> pouring a gallon of petrol on the floor and lighting it is a fast way of warming your house up
[11:25] <gordonjcp> it doesn't mean that's a good idea
[11:25] <drupin> so i make fat 32
[11:25] <gordonjcp> no
[11:25] <gordonjcp> fat filesystems are too limited to use for Linux
[11:26] <gordonjcp> needs to be ext2, ext3 or ext4
[11:26] <gordonjcp> there's no good reason not to use ext4 on modernish disks
[11:26] <drupin> ok i use ext2 then
[11:26] <gordonjcp> no, use ext4
[11:26] <gordonjcp> ext2 is ancient
[11:26] <gordonjcp> drupin: unless your root filesystem is on an SD card or similar, use at least ext3
[11:27] <drupin> flash drive 8 GB
[11:27] <gordonjcp> drupin: not an SSD, just flash?
[11:27] <drupin> ok i make ext3
[11:27] <drupin> yes
[11:27] <gordonjcp> yes what?
[11:27] <drupin> flash
[11:27] <systemclient> what about btrfs?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> right, use ext2 then, the journal will hammer your write cycles
[11:28] <acer> I get (may be forged) did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA
[11:28] <drupin> yes
[11:28] <systemclient> btrfs should have the nicest load balancing …
[11:29] <gordonjcp> drupin: ext2 is dangerous because if you don't unmount cleanly you can lose data
[11:29] <gordonjcp> drupin: the solution is, try not to do that
[11:29] <drupin> then ext3
[11:30] <drupin> what mount point i give to casper-rw drive
[11:30] <acer> I get in the mail.log ...(may be forged) did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA... when I try to send a email from my mail client
[11:30] <acer> anyone could help me see what is the problem please ?
[11:31] <drupin> primary->mount point "/" -ext3 ...... primary->label-casper-rw mount point /home -ext2 ....
[11:31] <drupin> is this correct
[11:31] <metti_> hello together
[11:32] <flokati> hello. i need some help .. i ve changed some seetings on samba yesterday. and since then my pc restarts all the time cause i ve "lost" my root passwd. im on LiveCD now and i cant acceess my mounted HDD. thanks in advance .
[11:33] <metti_> hmm
[11:33] <Troy^> I'm getting some weird buffering streaming media over my samba server to xbmc.. Server is wired and the HTPC is 802.11n but i was even testing with 720p media.. Most of the time with 1080p DTS stuff it is flawless then it goes into these spurts of buffering while even watching 720p content. Is there any setting to put in the smb.conf that would help performance for this?
[11:33] <metti_> do u need to recover ure pw first?
[11:34] <metti_> @flokati?
[11:35] <flokati> yes :/ i had a message like "who are you?" and ofc all permissons denied
[11:35] <metti_> yes yes
[11:35] <iqualfragile> hi, im trying to follow the instructions given at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html but i get some error at the very beginnig: when entering ‚ldapsearch -Q -LLL -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b cn=config dn‘ it returns ‚ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2)‘
[11:36] <metti_> everything is possible on ubuntu or better to say on linux but it shouldnt to be just as simple as count from one to thre
[11:37] <metti_> I would guide you through the process but I just have not the time
[11:37] <flokati> aww :/
[11:38] <flokati> but there is a way right?
[11:38] <metti_> afurthermore I can not be shure its just realy youre pc
[11:38] <metti_> but!
[11:38] <metti_> try google
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> metti_  don't sya 'try google' please
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> say
[11:38] <metti_> I think just this problem is solved in over hundreds of blogs
[11:39] <metti_> kkk
[11:39] <gordonjcp> !password | flokati
[11:39] <metti_> I am just new here
[11:39] <flokati> i havent forgot my psw
[11:39] <gordonjcp> flokati: I thought you said you had...
[11:39] <metti_> what happened exactly
[11:39] <iqualfragile> are you referring to my problem? i have allready used google
[11:39] <metti_> ?
[11:39] <flokati> the problem is it just started by saying "UI=1000
[11:40] <metti_> @flokati
[11:40] <flokati> and "unknown user"
[11:40] <ukebane> Hello, I've got a problem with my gnome-shell, I edited my /usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/panel.js and messed up, now my panel won't load.
[11:40] <ukebane> I tried reinstalling gnome-shell but that didn't work
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <flokati> i was folloiwng a post in ubuntu forums to make visible my ubuntu to a windows network
[11:41] <iqualfragile> apt-get purge gnome-shell && apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:41] <ukebane> iqualfragile: I did that, thanks though
[11:41] <flokati> and now.. im on LiveCD and my hdd is mounted but i cant access it
[11:41] <Romance> i really need Microsoft office 2007, which one is the best option - use WINE or use virtualbox to install Windows and Microsoft office on it
[11:42] <gordonjcp> flokati: from your livecd, mount the hard disk and check all the changes you made
[11:42] <iqualfragile> use wine
[11:42] <gordonjcp> flokati: what do you mean, you can't access it?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> Romance  try both, see which you prefer
[11:43] <Plecto> How can having a harddrive plugged in make the xbmcbuntu stall indefenitly even before ever choosing to install anything to the drive? I really wan't to make this work :(
[11:43] <gordonjcp> Plecto: "stall" before it even boots?
[11:43] <Plecto> gordon: It boots the cd, then it stalls where it says "xbmc" with some dots moving back and forth
[11:43] <Plecto> Before any options occur
[11:43] <gordonjcp> oh, okay
[11:43] <flokati> i cant acceess "root" folder  to /dev/sda1 from LiveCD cause it says "permisson denied" a
[11:43] <metti_> sorry need to go now
[11:44] <flokati> ok
[11:44] <metti_> see another time
[11:44] <gordonjcp> flokati: go root and try it
[11:44] <esing> What is the name of Ubuntu unities Video player?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> flokati: sudo -i
[11:44] <flokati> i did that
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> Plecto  there's also the channel #xbmc-linux, some 170 people there
[11:44] <esing> I want to start it in command line , therefore I would need its exact naming
[11:44] <Calinou> esing: google it?
[11:44] <Calinou> ._.
[11:44] <esing> Calinou I googled 5 minutes and then gave up
[11:45] <ukebane> bbl
[11:45] <flokati> /dev/sda1
[11:45] <gordonjcp> esing: think it's totem
[11:45] <flokati> -su: /dev/sda1: Permission denied
[11:45] <Calinou> totem, esing
[11:45] <esing> Thanks
[11:45] <Plecto> Monkeydust: Ill give that a shot, thx
[11:45] <gordonjcp> flokati: what are you actually typing in?
[11:45] <gordonjcp> flokati: pastebin exactly what is in your terminal
[11:45] <ldiamond_> is it possible to login as someone from a guest session?
[11:46] <esing> Oh I could have clicked Info in the video player itself
[11:46] <gordonjcp> esing: yes, you could ;-)
[11:46] <esing> I'll remember that :)
[11:47] <flokati> root@ubuntu:/# sudo -i
[11:47] <iqualfragile> flokati: you need to mount that drive before you can access it
[11:47] <flokati> root@ubuntu:~# /dev/sda1
[11:47] <flokati> -bash: /dev/sda1: Permission denied
[11:47] <flokati> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:47] <iqualfragile> -.-
[11:47] <gordonjcp> flokati: okay, I'm not sure what you're doing there
[11:47] <flokati> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/761ebb48-ea53-4104-9647-118fa5adf89c busy
[11:47] <flokati> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/761ebb48-ea53-4104-9647-118fa5adf89c
[11:47] <flokati> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:48] <gordonjcp> yup
[11:48] <iqualfragile> well then: cd /media/76…
[11:48] <gordonjcp> so if you do "cd /media/761<tab>"
[11:48] <blackshirt> flokati, your sda1 has been mounted
[11:48] <flokati> yes
[11:49] <flokati> thats my hdd.. but when the system boots it says  No root account blah blah and restarts all the time
[11:49] <flokati> notice that now im on LiveCD
[11:50] <gordonjcp> flokati: yup
[11:50] <gordonjcp> flokati: did you edit /etc/passwd?
[11:50] <flokati> i was trying yesterday to make some settings on samba
[11:51] <flokati> but i didnt change any paswords at all :S
[11:51] <gordonjcp> flokati: sounds like you've hosed /etc/passwd
[11:52] <flokati> sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf    after saving this file.... i lost my root account
[11:52] <blackshirt> flokati, what are you doing on samba?
[11:53] <flokati> and my pc restarts all the time . but i didnt make any changes at all.. i just wrote "workgroup"  in the correct place after following instructions on ubuntu forum
[11:54] <blackshirt> Flokati, you was doing a bad thing
[11:54] <Romance> My friend says the partition is simply not correctly labled as an ntfs, but it IS there, and he did everything he could but we couldn't seem to mount the ntfs partition to ubuntu.
[11:54] <flokati> after that it instantly said to my (after trying to sudo)  "who are you?" and permissons denied... and by the first restart ... poof..
[11:55] <idefix> it test
[11:55] <gordonjcp> flokati: it sounds like you've hosed /etc/passwd
[11:55] <gordonjcp> flokati: open two terminals and open /etc/passwd and /mnt/whatever/etc/passwd
[11:55] <flokati> i never typed that in my terminal :/
[11:56] <gordonjcp> flokati: compare the two files
[11:56] <flokati> ok a sec
[11:56]  * idefix tests
[11:56] <blackshirt> flokati, yoy messed up with running gedit with sudo
[11:58] <random_> I've installed a couple of themes, but have not been able to switch to them, im not to sure what is going wrong
[11:58] <sudhi> I added the equinox ppa `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tiheum/equinox` and then `sudo apt-get update`, but when I try `sudo apt-get install equinox-theme` it says package not found?? any idea?
[11:59] <flokati> root@ubuntu:/# etc/passwd
[11:59] <flokati> -bash: etc/passwd: Permission denied
[11:59] <sudhi> the ppa repo shows the package (checked the launchpad page of the author) though it seems apt-get is not happy with it
[11:59] <flokati> root@ubuntu:/#
[12:00] <random_> Anyone able to help me with themes ?
[12:01] <hjreessa> hello all, can you please tell me what should I type if I want to make the terminal usable without opening new tabs on it after I type a command to open an application
[12:01] <hjreessa> for example if I type gedit it opens it but I can not longer use the terminal without closing gedit
[12:01] <sudhi> random_: same question here, thought it'll be easy, but looks like people dont really care about the theme
[12:01] <hjreessa> there was a sign or some other thing that I used to add to the command to free the terminal but I forgot it
[12:02] <blackshirt> hjreessa, open in new tab
[12:02] <sudhi> hjreessa: add & at the end, e.g. : $ gedit &
[12:02] <hjreessa> man please read what i want to know
[12:02] <hjreessa> sudhi:  THANK YOU
[12:02] <Troy^> where do i set the connection protocol in filezilla client to connect to sftp?
[12:02] <sudhi> hjreessa: welcome, though some debug/stderr might disturb your terminal
[12:03] <blackshirt> flokati, you have been messed up by your self
[12:03] <esing> Um... I found a big bug :(
[12:03] <sudhi> esing: really? how big, I wonder :-?
[12:03] <blackshirt> esing, what bug?
[12:04] <esing> I can't access my data at all through command line on the second HDD each time I reboot.
[12:04] <guntbert_> !bug | esing
[12:05] <sudhi> guntbert_: looks more like mounting issue to me, than a bug
[12:05] <random_> sudhi, yea idk.. i cant see any of the themes i've installed..
[12:05] <blackshirt> esing, that was not bug, but your stupidity..lol
[12:05] <esing> I feel stupid
[12:05] <guntbert_> sudhi: ack :-)
[12:06] <esing> But I see the drive and files in Nautilus
[12:06] <esing> Only accessing it with command line does not work
[12:06] <sudhi> esing: either fix-up your fstab or let nautilus/gnome mount it; then you can use CLI to access (ls /media/MyHDDvolume/blah/blah)
[12:07] <guntbert_> Troy^: open the site manager, there under "protocol"
[12:07] <sudhi> esing: look under /media
[12:07] <sudhi> in fact, browse using nautilus, go to File System -> media
[12:07] <sudhi> then under there you will see your second HDD with partitions and all, and their respective labels
[12:08] <esing> Yes, after I entered the drive with nautilus I can access them with command line but opening it each time first through nautilus is not practical
[12:08] <sudhi> thats the exact path you will be able to access from CLI; cd /media/MyVolume/some/path/file.doc
[12:08] <Troy^> guntbert_: thank you very much
[12:08] <guntbert_> Troy^: You're welcome
[12:08] <sudhi> esing: then fix up your fstab
[12:09] <blackshirt> trying tou mount your disk manually
[12:09] <sudhi> guntbert_: don't we have a botentry for fstab? esing can definitely use some !fstab
[12:09] <esing> sudhi Thanks, I will read about that
[12:09] <sudhi> !fstab
[12:09] <sudhi> esing: ^
[12:10] <sudhi> but be careful, not a good idea to play around with filesystem/partitions; feel free to drop in this channel if you are not sure about any small detail
[12:11] <Dr_willis> backup your original fstab file in any case. ;)
[12:11] <dzup> dominis patris espiritus santi ...
[12:13] <sudhi> the best way is to put their mount location at the install time itself, just use any random /data1 or /windows1 etc. letters
[12:14] <esing> How do I find the UUID of my harddrive out?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> !blkid
[12:14] <esing> oh I could have googled that. sry
[12:15] <iqualfragile> so: does anybody have an idea why that happens? (LDAP)?
[12:16] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, what happens?
[12:16] <sudhi> Dr_willis: is ntfs-3g installed by default? or the kernel support for ntfs(RW) has gotten better?
[12:16] <iqualfragile> hi, im trying to follow the instructions given at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html but i get some error at the very beginnig: when entering ‚ldapsearch -Q -LLL -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b cn=config dn‘ it returns ‚ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2)‘
[12:16] <Dr_willis> sudhi,  has been for ages.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> sudhi,  worked fine for the last 3+ years i belive
[12:17] <iqualfragile> blackshirt: i have allready posted that some minutes ago
[12:17] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, you don't describe something
[12:17] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, sorry guys, i just join here for a seconds
[12:17] <iqualfragile> ah, sorry, didnt see that
[12:18] <iqualfragile> im having a fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 server edition
[12:18] <blackshirt> yes, so what happen
[12:18] <blackshirt> ?
[12:19] <iqualfragile> i followeld the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[12:19] <iqualfragile> so i have first changed /etc/hosts
[12:19] <blackshirt> yes, i have read it more a times
[12:19] <iqualfragile> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[12:19] <iqualfragile> 127.0.1.1       name.domain.local name
[12:20] <iqualfragile> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[12:20] <ukebane> iqualfragile: I fixed my gnome-shell problem
[12:20] <yeats> iqualfragile: have you looked at the openldap site?  they have a FAQ page that might help: http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/53.html
[12:20] <blackshirt> But i can't follow your link for now, because i'm on handheld device
[12:21] <iqualfragile> yeats: yeah, but it seems like there could be a fault in the server-guide, so im asking here
[12:21] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, so ...?
[12:21] <ukebane> I downloaded gnome-shell-3.4.2.tar.xz and extracted the panel.js, fixed my problem :)
[12:21] <iqualfragile> now i have installed the open-ldap-server
[12:21] <iqualfragile> apt-get install slapd ldap-utils
[12:21] <yeats> iqualfragile: this channel is *mostly* desktop support - there is also #ubuntu-server, but it sounds like your problem is with the program not the platform (i.e., the OS)
[12:22] <blackshirt> yeats, it doesn't a matter..
[12:22] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, just to the point what the problem is
[12:22] <esing> Can I put my UUID in here or is that sensible information?
[12:22] <iqualfragile> and then i tried to execute "ldapsearch -Q -LLL -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b cn=config dn " copied 1:1 from the guide (i just removed the sude at the beginnig as im having a root-shell)
[12:23] <iqualfragile> and now it says:
[12:23] <iqualfragile> ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2)
[12:23] <yeats> blackshirt: I'm just trying to direct him to where he might get the best expertise
[12:23] <esing> Is this correct?             UUID=76E8B1B9E8B175C7 /		ntfs         defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0       0
[12:23] <iqualfragile> when runnig it with -vvv it says:
[12:23] <sudhi> iqualfragile: I think #ubuntu-server people or much better #ldap folks will help you out
[12:23] <blackshirt> yeats, sure ... Just suggest him
[12:23] <iqualfragile> ldap_initialize( ldapi:///??base )
[12:23] <iqualfragile> ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2)
[12:24] <yeats> blackshirt: I did
[12:24] <iqualfragile> thanks
[12:24] <esing> Also does it matter how many spaces I have between the words, or does it not matter and the table figures itself out?
[12:24] <sudhi> iqualfragile: try #openldap than #ldap
[12:24] <gsteinert> afternoon all =)
[12:24] <iqualfragile> if blackshirt is unable to help me im gona look there
[12:24] <sudhi> esing: put the mount point in front of /
[12:24] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, that looks you have been something wrong
[12:25] <sudhi> esing: lest you are mounting the ntfs drive as root :P
[12:25] <gsteinert> i'm having some rather odd samba-related issues. i have a couple of samba shares on a linux box. When accessing these shares from my windows 8 machine (and a windows 7 laptop i have lying around) the files display and work correctly, but any folders are shown as zero-length files. I have tried enabling WINS support as found in one forum post, but nothing else I could find on google describes
[12:25] <gsteinert> my particular problem
[12:25] <iqualfragile> but there is not much to do wrong…
[12:25] <gsteinert> has anyone had any similar problems?
[12:25] <esing> sudhi Oh if I would have rebooted like this my PC would have been messed up?
[12:25] <yeats> gsteinert: try #samba
[12:25] <sudhi> esing: prolly yes, but who knows :P
[12:25] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, check your command agains ... Because i can't check them
[12:26] <blackshirt> maybe missing some options
[12:26] <esing> Is this correct?             UUID=76E8B1B9E8B175C7  /media/philipp/		ntfs         defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0       0
[12:26] <iqualfragile> i have copy-pasted them from the terminal
[12:26] <gsteinert> yeats: i have done, it seems to be rather dead in there. no worries, I'll keep trying google =)
[12:27] <esing> Alright i reboot now and see if it works
[12:27] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, i have play with that guide and nothing goes wrong
[12:27] <sudhi> esing: yes, that sounds better, but does the directory /media/philipp exists? why don't you save your fstab and issue "sudo mount -a"?
[12:28] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, your error says some local error
[12:28] <sudhi> that'll tell you if there are any problems
[12:28] <esing> sudhi That directory does not exist. Because the drive is already mounted so mount -a does not work
[12:29] <sudhi> esing: then unmount it (make sure you aren't accessing it from browser/player), and repeat
[12:29] <blackshirt> esing, you should passing remount options to mount command if you want to remount
[12:29] <esing> I created the folder now I will try to unmount now
[12:29] <sudhi> blackshirt: nah, he just wants to check his fstab, no need to remount
[12:30] <demonoid_com> hello
[12:30] <demonoid_com> i need advice
[12:30] <demonoid_com> for ubuntu
[12:30] <demonoid_com> gnome
[12:30] <sudhi> !hello > demonoid_com
[12:30] <sudhi> !hi
[12:30] <sudhi> huh?
[12:30] <demonoid_com> i want install on my pc ubuntu 12.04
[12:31] <demonoid_com> but i have dual core with 4 gb ram
[12:31] <yeats> sudhi: that factoid was removed a while back
[12:31] <demonoid_com> and good nvidia video card
[12:31] <demonoid_com> i need lite gnome
[12:31] <yeats> !enter | demonoid_com
[12:31] <esing> It worked
[12:31] <blackshirt> iqualfragile,
[12:31] <demonoid_com> ubottu ok sorry
[12:32] <sudhi> esing: what does plain 'mount | grep philipp' returns?
[12:32] <esing> /dev/sda1 on /media/philipp type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[12:32] <sudhi> esing: congrats, you just fixed up your fstab, now your "second hdd" will always be mounted on /media/philipp
[12:32] <sudhi> can you read/write to it?
[12:32] <esing> sudhi Thanks!
[12:33] <esing> sudhi yes
[12:33] <sudhi> esing: good, and you're welcome :)
[12:33] <demonoid_com> it is possible install ubuntu 12.04 with classic gnome 2?
[12:33] <esing> sudhi is there a way to copy selected text in terminal without right clicking it ?
[12:33] <esing> ctrl+c does not work
[12:33] <iqualfragile> blackshirt:?
[12:34] <iqualfragile> ctrl+shift+c
[12:34] <esing> thanks
[12:34] <yeats> demonoid_com: no, but there are alternatives like cinnamon and MATE (which are mostly not supported here)
[12:34] <yeats> demonoid_com: most people who want a gnome2-like desktop have moved to xfce
[12:35] <Dr_willis> or Lubuntu/lxde
[12:35] <demonoid_com> yeats:ok 10x becouse i need develop apps for android and i need free resurce
[12:35] <frappy> i want to disable my trackpad while typing. it seems i need to get the trackpad recognised as a trackpad, but xinput lists it as a mouse. how can i get it recognised correctly?
[12:36] <frappy> i'm using xubuntu 12.04
[12:36] <Dr_willis> demonoid_com,  lightest desktop would be Lubuntu, or just using a window manager.
[12:36] <User___> Hello, I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is a wireless driver for my mother board... it's a Asus Maximus V Formula. I have googled and had no luck.... anyone ???
[12:37] <xiaclo> Is there a way to see "hidden" memory usage?  If I total up the memory usage column from ps, I get 44%, but free/top/htop says I am using 65% … what gives?  This is 4GB RAM, so not a small amount
[12:37] <demonoid_com> frappy:and you are pleased with xubuntu
[12:37] <frappy> demonoid_com: it's grand
[12:37] <Guest39504> there is a bottom task bar appearing in ubuntu 12.04 but i also have cairo dock so its getting behind it.. i dont want it how do i get rid of it.. can someone please help
[12:37] <frappy> basically i have this setup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11141211&postcount=1
[12:37] <iqualfragile> blackshirt: i know now what was the problem, i missunderstood one instruction
[12:37] <frappy> i.e. my trackpad is treated as a psmouse
[12:37] <Guest39504> can anyone help me with this one
[12:37] <iqualfragile> you need to append this line to /etc/hosts
[12:37] <iqualfragile> instead of replacing one
[12:37] <Guest39504> there is a bottom task bar appearing in ubuntu 12.04 but i also have cairo dock so its getting behind it.. i dont want it how do i get rid of it.. can someone please help
[12:37] <frappy> but this isn't what i want
[12:38] <User___> Wireless anyone ?
[12:38] <demonoid_com> frappy:10x man!
[12:38] <Guest39504> there is a bottom task bar appearing in ubuntu 12.04 but i also have cairo dock so its getting behind it.. i dont want it how do i get rid of it.. can someone please help
[12:39] <frappy> demonoid_com: huh?
[12:39] <soman> Hi all. Where I can find wxWidgets help files in Ubuntu 12.04?
[12:39] <frappy> man man man man man man man man man man
[12:40] <blackshirt> iqualfragile, congrats
[12:40] <Guest39504> there is a bottom task bar appearing in ubuntu 12.04 but i also have cairo dock so its getting behind it.. i dont want it how do i get rid of it.. can someone please help
[12:40] <iqualfragile> but now im running into problems one line later…
[12:41] <frappy> Guest39504: probably you want to kill gpanel or gnome-panel or something
[12:41] <Guest39504> yes sir frappy...
[12:41] <Guest39504> i think so .. how can i
[12:41] <frappy> Guest39504: find a graphical process manager, find the process and then kill it
[12:42] <Guest39504> how do i do that frappy??
[12:44] <Guest39504> where do i find a graphical process manager frappy???
[12:44] <Guest39504> frappy : where do i find a graphical process manager sir?
[12:44] <frappy> Guest39504: i dunno, it depends which desktop you're using
[12:44] <Guest39504> gnome
[12:44] <Guest39504> Frappy i am using gnome..
[12:45] <frappy> Guest39504: isn't there some sort of search panel thing you can use to find applications?
[12:46] <drupin> ohh know installer just crashed at final stages
[12:47] <Dr_willis> !info htop
[12:47] <Dr_willis> the panels most likely will restart if killed.
[12:49] <Guest39504> Frappy : No its nothing to do like a search panel.. but its just a simple bar which appearing on the bottom of the screen just behind cairo dock and it has 4 tiny desktop windows at the right corner
[12:50] <frappy> Guest39504: oh well
[12:50] <Dr_willis> thats the gnome panel
[12:50] <Guest39504> Frappy: u know what this is??
[12:50] <esing> Searched through compiz and keyboard shortcuts but I do not find the hotkey settings for placing a windows left or right, standard hotkey is: ctrl+SUPER+arrowLEFT/RIGHT
[12:50] <Guest39504> Frappy: how do i get rid of this man!! its so frustrating
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Guest39504,  you can alt-click and drag it to another edge i belive, or set it to auto hide. I dont use the gnme classic mode.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> and guest nicks may want to change to a real nick.. its getting full of guests in here
[12:52] <frappy> Guest39504: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove%20gnome%20panel%20ubuntu%2012.04
[12:52] <Dr_willis> last i looked Cairo Dock added its own entries to the Lightdm login screen to start a session with Just the dock
[12:53] <Dr_willis> or that might have been AWN.
[12:54] <rak4nishu> 1
[13:03] <jamesbond> in which file does the modem manager writes logs in ubuntu 12.0?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> jamesbond, did you look in /var/log ?
[13:10] <mayur> #bmslug
[13:15] <iwert> hi ;y keybeord is set to belgiu; and ;y keybeord is belgiu; however its its qwerty now
[13:15] <njr> Hi, For some strange reason I cant apt-get ruby-redcarpet, even though google tells me it exist... any idea why?
[13:16] <e-v-o> I am trying to convince my gf to install latest Ubuntu alongside her sluggish 4 year old Vista on a laptop. But she says no since I cannot guarantee a 100% risk free install. Help!
[13:16] <tsimpson> e-v-o: use the wuby installer, it allows you to install Ubuntu directly from windows (as if it was an application) and will not touch any partitions etc
[13:16] <tsimpson> !wuby | e-v-o
[13:17] <BluesKaj> !wubi
[13:17] <tsimpson> !wubi
[13:17] <tsimpson> yes, spelling is required :)
[13:17] <e-v-o> tsimpson: where does it install it to?!
[13:17] <jrib> njr: google lies :x
[13:17] <tsimpson> e-v-o: to a file on the disk
[13:18] <tsimpson> e-v-o: it even comes with an easy uninstaller
[13:18] <e-v-o> so it runs virtualised over windows?!
[13:18] <e-v-o> isn't that slow, specially on an old already slow machine?
[13:18] <iwert> sudo apt-get install skype, there is no skype on ubunto?
[13:19] <jrib> !skype | iwert
[13:19] <tsimpson> e-v-o: no, it's fully native, it's just that instead of running from a partition, it runs from a file
[13:19] <truexfan81> ok funny question
[13:19] <tsimpson> e-v-o: the system fully boots into Ubuntu, just from a file located on the windows filesystem
[13:19] <e-v-o> do you still get dual boot?
[13:19] <truexfan81> i'm installing 12.04 minimal on my pc right now
[13:19] <tsimpson> e-v-o: yes, you get the option of Windows (default) or Ubuntu
[13:20] <truexfan81> my question is, if i choose not to install a de, will it automatically install xorg when i add the ppa and install mate later?
[13:20] <tsimpson> e-v-o: it actually uses the windows boot loader, rather than grub, so it's just using the existing windows boot process
[13:20] <e-v-o> what if we decide to wipe windows in the future?
[13:20] <jrib> truexfan81: it should, unless the packager did something weird...
[13:20] <truexfan81> i think that is what i will do then
[13:21] <tsimpson> e-v-o: you can just put the Ubuntu CD in and reboot, then do an install. think of wubi as a test-drive, but without the slow live CD
[13:21] <truexfan81> keep it as minimal as possible for max speed, even tho its a dualcore 2.9 lol
[13:21] <truexfan81> was using mint 13 before, deicded i wanted something lighter/faster
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !xorg | truexfan81
[13:22] <savio> hey pals
[13:22] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, xorg.conf is no longer default afaik
[13:22] <truexfan81> huh?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> but you can generate on if you wish
[13:23] <BluesKaj> one
[13:23] <e-v-o> tsimpson: what's the risk of damage to Windows is I use bi as compared to normal dual boot install?
[13:23] <e-v-o> *if
[13:23] <savio> i having problem on my dell inspiron  15r while chaging my brightness cause system to freez
[13:23] <e-v-o> *wubi
[13:23] <savio> i refer this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/140002/brightness-keys-in-dell-n4010-14r-causing-freezes but not really applied it
[13:23] <truexfan81> oh, yeah it will make one when i run sudo nvidia-xconfig after installing the nvidia drivers
[13:23] <tsimpson> e-v-o: well, as wubi doesn't touch any partitions, there's really no real risk at all
[13:24] <savio> is this helpful or anyone has any solution
[13:24] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, yup
[13:24] <jrib> njr: so where did you read that you could install it with apt-get?
[13:24] <Romance> what does "Block size 18874368" means ?
[13:24] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  i've been running ubuntu/mint for a year and a half so i know a little
[13:24] <e-v-o> so the only downside is that if I want to remove windows in the future Ubuntu will also be wiped and require a fresh installation?
[13:25] <njr> jrib: sorry, I misread... its only available as a package for 12.10. Sorry for the trouble
[13:25] <jrib> njr: no problem
[13:26] <tsimpson> e-v-o: yes, because the Ubuntu "disk" is just hosted on the already existing Windows filesystem, and there's no easy way to get that on to a physical partition
[13:26] <truexfan81> BluesKaj: the fun part will be typing that long mate ppa link in text only mode lol
[13:26] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, I assume ppl  do have some knowledge , but it's difficult to know where and how much
[13:27] <iwert> whats a good IDE on ubuntu?
[13:27] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  i hear ya
[13:27] <e-v-o> ok. how about installing Ubuntu on a USB drive? How does the speed compare to hdd installation?
[13:27] <ChogyDan> iwert: never was able to figure that out myself
[13:27] <rsser> how do you know if your wireless card supports ad-hoc network on ubuntu?
[13:28] <tsimpson> e-v-o: that mostly depends on the hardware, USB 2.0 will be quicker than USB 1, but other than that it's not too different
[13:28] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  i do use a seperate home partition, so this way i will be able to restore my de and app settings with a copy/paste from my mint home folder :)
[13:29] <truexfan81> ok one question, what is UTC?
[13:29] <truexfan81> so i know what to tell the installer
[13:29] <Estragon> hi, im on 12.04 and metacity is crashing every time a launch a fullscreen java swing frame
[13:29] <e-v-o> tsimpson: if I install on a USB drive, can I then plug that drive on any machine and take Ubuntu wherever I want?
[13:29] <prova21> Heyyyyyz
[13:29] <BluesKaj> iwert, eclipse , C++ ...it's up to you to research and choose
[13:29] <prova21> Listen
[13:29] <prova21> I've just updated my ubuntu lucid to Precise 12.04.1
[13:30] <tsimpson> e-v-o: for the most part, yes. as long as the system can boot from USB, and it's configured to do so
[13:30] <DJones> truexfan81: UTC is a a timezone, Universal Co-ordinated Time
[13:30] <truexfan81> hmm
[13:30] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, dual booting mint and ubuntu then ?
[13:30] <truexfan81> nope
[13:30] <truexfan81> wiped out mint, just kept my home folder
[13:30] <hama> ciao
[13:31] <truexfan81> picked a different username for this one
[13:31] <e-v-o> tsimpson: and the differentt system spec is not a problem? I thought Ubuntu got the specific required drivers for machine upon installation.
[13:31] <hama> !lista
[13:31] <prova21> I've noticed there are 2 kernels: one with -pae support, the other without it.  Can I remove the other, because of the uselessness and lack of space too?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> just install ubuntu to / , truexfan81
[13:31] <ChogyDan> truexfan81: why are you switching away from mint?
[13:31] <prova21> !it | hama
[13:31] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  no, had was already partitioned to have a seperate /home partition
[13:31] <Calinou> ChogyDan: it's obvious 8)
[13:32] <truexfan81> ChogyDan:  wanted something lighter/faster
[13:32] <tsimpson> e-v-o: most drivers come pre-installed, so that's not a problem
[13:32] <Calinou> iwert: depends on the language: I recommend codeblocks for C(++) personally
[13:32] <Calinou> nothing forces you to use an ide, you can use a text editor too
[13:33] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, yes but your actual OS install is to / , right ?
[13:33] <prova21> I've noticed there are 2 kernels in Precise: one with -pae support, another without it.  Can I remove the not-pae, because of its uselessness and lack of space?
[13:33] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  correct
[13:33] <rsser> how do you know if your wireless card supports ad-hoc network on ubuntu?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> that's what i was suggesting , truexfan81
[13:33] <e-v-o> sweet! thank you very much for your help. Now on a different topic, how risky is it to install Ubuntu alongside OS X on a macbook pro 2011?
[13:33] <Boffy> hello! does anyone know if Asus Eee PC 1015BX works well with Ubuntu (or one of it's derivatives) and also how strong is actually AMD FUSION DualCore C60-1.0Ghz? Let's say compared to P3 800 or something sicne i dont' know these new CPU much
[13:34] <iwert> what is this gedit window, its a blank window
[13:34] <truexfan81> ok am in the new text only install lol
[13:34] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  i'm about to do this http://askubuntu.com/questions/87040/how-to-install-mate
[13:34] <BluesKaj> e-v-o, any new install comes with risks
[13:35] <truexfan81> actually i think i'm gonna do a apt-get update/upgrade first
[13:35] <prova21> I've noticed there are 2 kernels in Precise: one with -pae support, another without it.  Can I remove the not-pae, because of its uselessness and lack of space?
[13:35] <prova21> I've noticed there are 2 kernels in Precise: one with -pae support, another without it.  Can I remove the not-pae, because of its uselessness and lack of space?
[13:35] <prova21> I've noticed there are 2 kernels in Precise: one with -pae support, another without it.  Can I remove the not-pae, because of its uselessness and lack of space?
[13:35] <FloodBot1> prova21: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <DJones> !repeat | prova21
[13:35] <e-v-o> BluesKaj: I recognise that, hence why I'm trying to get an opinion front he community before jumping in ; )
[13:35] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, well , good luck ...prefer KDE myself :)
[13:36]  * sddddddddddddddd irsso seems to be awful
[13:38] <truexfan81> why is it saying add-apt-repository: command not found?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> e-v-o, there are lots of successful dual boots on macs these days , It's mostly positive from all accounts
[13:39] <truexfan81> halp
[13:39] <blackshirt> what the problem truexfan81
[13:40] <truexfan81> blackshirt:  "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[13:40] <Romance> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[13:40] <blackshirt> are you working on ubuntu truexfant81?
[13:40] <truexfan81> blackshirt:  yes, 12.04 minimal
[13:41] <blackshirt> Romance, i think that was default installed
[13:41] <truexfan81> am in text only mode at the moment
[13:41] <truexfan81> blackshirt:  am attempting to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87040/how-to-install-mate
[13:41] <blackshirt> Oh no... You work on minimal system,and maybe like romance tells was not installed
[13:42] <Romance> he is minimalist
[13:42] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, drop the quotes in that ppa , if that's whatyou're trying
[13:43] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  what Romance said fixed it, installed python-software-properties
[13:44] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, I can't say i've ever seen that command
[13:44] <Josh> Well, How can I restrict application access from multiple users?
[13:44] <truexfan81> it works
[13:44] <Josh> That is, say if I have tmux installed
[13:44] <Josh> (and I am admin) It can be used by anyone (any user on this computer) currently
[13:45] <Josh> How to restrict that?
[13:46] <Josh> is it by doing chmod 700 ?
[13:46] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  now waiting for it to download 468MB of new packages lol
[13:47] <esing> hi
[13:47] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, well, it is a DE
[13:47] <esing> Which Antivirus tool is good to check windows trojans with ubuntu?
[13:47] <truexfan81> yeah, wasn't complaining
[13:48] <truexfan81> its installing them now
[13:48] <pbjorklund> I set shell of a user with chsh -s /bin/bash username. But when I login it doesn't load .bash_profile or .bashrc. When I source .bash_profile it says nothing but doesn't load anything. When I type "bash" it does load everything. Don't really know how to google this. Tips?
[13:48] <Romance> Josh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[13:48] <truexfan81> BluesKaj:  they download pretty quick on my 22megabit connection
[13:48] <Lantizia> Lo, you know how you can make GRUB boot a file disk image that has DOS inside it so you can do BIOS updates?  Well can you do that but with Windows instead? (useful for other firmware updates)
[13:48] <BluesKaj> truexfan81, nice :)
[13:49] <truexfan81> crap
[13:49] <Lantizia> esing, you could give the Linux version of Avast! a go
[13:49] <truexfan81> forgot to turn cool and quiet off in the bios lol ohwell, i can do it next time i reboot
[13:51] <esing> Lantizia My software center does not find AVAST
[13:51] <pbjorklund> Nm, it "magically started working".
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Lantizia,  grub2 can boot ISO images. there may be a freedos/dr-dos iso image out you could use
[13:53] <Dr_willis> Lantizia,  you could try with a windows iso. but i doubt if it will work
[13:53] <DoctorD90> Someone know how force openssh to point to user's home trougth sftp, without disabled ssh?
[13:54] <subcool> question... - ok can i install BIOS updates via Ubuntu and Wine?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> subcool,  i would doubt if that will work
[13:54] <subcool> Dr_willis: so i can only do a bios update via windows??
[13:54] <subcool> thats kinda silly... :/
[13:54] <Dr_willis> subcool,  my pc's have a bios update feature in the bios..
[13:54] <kingnebex> how can i clear youtube cookies on firefox?
[13:55] <Dr_willis> subcool,  totally depends on the pc/bios/mb/hardware
[13:55] <subcool> Dr_willis: im on HP's website, and i only have win.exe update with a crappy bios interface.. -
[13:55] <subcool> ill google it- maybe there is something- thanks..
[13:58] <rsser> where can I find support for RTL8187B driver?
[13:59] <rsser> wireless card
[13:59] <eins11> hi guys, i have a little question: I have an rsync backup script for backing up my vserver. this script should remount my backup drive as rw before running. On system boot it is mounted in fstab as rw,user. Now when the script runs it say that only root can mount the drive as rw. what can i do?
[13:59] <subcool> Dr_willis: ok, can i update the bios via a vmware image?
[13:59] <beboj> alternative for network-manager using wwan connection ?
[13:59] <eins11> no, on system boot it is mounted as ro, user <- sorry ;)
[13:59] <krababbel> subcool: no, no access to real bios
[13:59] <kingnebex> gosh every 1 is bussy in here
[13:59] <subcool> krababbel: didnt think so..
[13:59] <subcool> k- thanks..
[14:00] <iwert> i want to play minecraft
[14:00] <iwert> but i need java6 jdk
[14:00] <Dr_willis> !java
[14:00] <esing> What package should I download: RPM / DEB or TAR GZ . I would guess DEB because Debian and Ubuntu are similar?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> esing,  deb - but what are you downloading?
[14:01] <esing> Dr_willis An Antivirus programm called "Avast"
[14:01] <ChogyDan> iwert: you probably want oracle java
[14:01] <iwert> i have the sdk
[14:01] <esing> Dr_Willis I do not find it through my software center
[14:01] <Dr_willis> esing,  you really need it?  theres clamav in the repos.
[14:01] <Dr_willis> the AVG company has really gotten me annoyed at them lately.
[14:01] <esing> Dr_willis Not sure, if clamAV is sufficient I'd not need Avast
[14:02] <iwert> why is the software senter so outdated
[14:02] <Dr_willis> avast did have a live cd..
[14:02] <Dr_willis> iwert,  its not.. ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle. so every 6 mo stuff gets updated in the n ext release.
[14:02] <esing> Dr_willis I want to check my Windows 7 parition with Ubuntu
[14:02] <iwert> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[14:02] <Dr_willis> esing,  the avast live cd may be worth grabbing.   i find it best to use several av apps.
[14:02] <iwert> isnt there anymore
[14:02] <Dr_willis> iwert,  blame oracle..
[14:03] <Dr_willis> oracle changed their licenses..
[14:03] <iwert> this is the 3rd enconter of software that dousnt work
[14:03] <Dr_willis> that !java factoid details how to install the various javas.
[14:04] <iwert> what do i do with an rpm file
[14:04] <Dr_willis> iwert,  i would delete it.. and find a proper .deb or other tar.gz
[14:04] <yeats> iwert: you don't use it ;-)
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[14:05] <yeats> !botsnack
[14:05] <iwert> great standerdized formot u got there
[14:05] <failingkid> hello all
[14:05] <failingkid> http://gyazo.com/185a628d85f8bc2d1421ac88c78ca5db
[14:05] <jrib> iwert: what do you actually want to know?  How to properly install java?
[14:05] <Doxin> what's the recommended app for using a tv-tuner card?
[14:05] <Rad_Ahemn> Hi there! Pm me if your a networking master. I am attempting to use my Ubuntu laptop and an old Linksys router as a wireless repeater and am having some troubles :-(
[14:05] <Dr_willis> iwert,  totally pointless comment.. deb is the debian package format.. not rpm which is what redhat and otehrs iuse.
[14:05] <failingkid> any reason for this problem?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> !info tvtime
[14:06] <eins11> I have an rsync backup script for backing up my vserver. this script should remount my backup drive as rw before running. On system boot it is mounted in fstab as ro,user. Now when the script runs it say that only root can mount the drive as rw. what can i do?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> failingkid,  at least give a small summary of the problem.
[14:06] <DoctorD90> Someone knows well openssh-sftp? I need a little help
[14:06] <iwert> im just saying theres no straight and easy manual for this
[14:06] <failingkid> i did
[14:06] <failingkid> see screenshot
[14:06] <Dr_willis> iwert,  you have looked at that java url given earlier>
[14:06] <iwert> i got the tar.gz file
[14:07] <Dr_willis> failingkid,  most people will not go to some random url just tro read about a provblem if you cant even give a 3 word summary
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !pm > Rad_Ahemn
[14:07] <behi> hi i need help , for install dvb-t
[14:07] <jrib> iwert: why not read the link Dr_willis had ubottu give you on the wiki?
[14:07] <failingkid> ?
[14:07] <failingkid> its a screenshot
[14:07] <jrib> !java | iwert
[14:07] <failingkid> the file isnt found when its clealry there
 Dr_willis An Antivirus programm called "Avast"
[14:08] <Calinou> are you serious? since when avast exists for linux?
[14:08] <Calinou> also, avast sucks. it's a bunch of privacy invading adware, nothing else
[14:08] <Calinou> use clamav
[14:08] <Dr_willis> Calinou,  been out for some time.. and ive also had issues with clamav.
[14:08] <Calinou> perfectly sufficient and doesn't harm your computer's performance since there is no realtime scan
[14:08] <Calinou> realtime scan is flawed
[14:09] <crancko> hi
[14:09] <jrib> failingkid: your screenshot doesn't indicate the file is "clearly there".  In any case #perl may be a better place for perl questions
[14:09] <blackshirt> hi crancko
[14:09] <crancko> network problems, can not connect to router
[14:09] <Dr_willis> i always suggest using several differnt av apps..ive had false posituves and stuff get overlooked befor.
[14:09] <crancko> tried to ping, network not available it says
[14:09] <blackshirt> crancko, you should check it
[14:10] <crancko> what should I check out?
[14:10] <failingkid> hmm? well im there now
[14:10] <crancko> I have checked cable, and I can connect to router from tablet
[14:10] <failingkid> i thought if i included the location of the file people would see
[14:10] <esing> How do I install Jdownloader on Ubuntu. Instruction says I should activate PPA first "ppa:jd-team/jdownloader" ... do they mean I should put latter command into sources.list ?
[14:10] <failingkid> oh well, thanks anyways
[14:11] <DoctorD90> I use sftp of openssh, but when i try to point to user's home during sftp connection, ssh become unavailable....someone knows how to fix?
[14:11] <crancko> but from buntu I can not connect
[14:11] <iwert> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk
[14:11] <iwert> its not working
[14:11] <tsimpson> esing: either use the GUI to add it, or use the "apt-add-repository" tool (with sudo)
[14:11] <truexfan81> now installing nvidia 304.43 drivers from the xswat ppa
[14:11] <jrib> failingkid: not sure what you are expecting people to see
[14:11] <iwert> none of the comands work
[14:11] <failingkid> @_@
[14:11] <crancko> I tried to restart network-manager, I tried reboot still no network connection
[14:11] <e-v-o> what's the easier way to install Ubuntu on USB pen drive?
[14:12] <failingkid> guess i should have done ll listing
[14:12] <ThinkT510> e-v-o: dd
[14:12] <crancko> unetbootin evo
[14:12] <jrib> iwert: where did you find that link?
[14:12] <Rad_Ahemn>  I have bridged my wireless connection with my Ethernet to use my laptop as a switch between a wireless network I am trying to boost and my wireless router, Linksys wrt110. However I can connect to my router fine, and connect to the original network well. I am having troubles getting my computer to connect to my router while the Ethernet and wireless is bridged, to form a repeater. Any ideas? Please use my name so I can see
[14:12] <|Merlin|> can anyone explain to me why I have LAN network access but no web access?
[14:12] <e-v-o> dd?!
[14:12] <crancko> e-v-o Unetbootin is easy
[14:12] <iwert> they gave me here
[14:12] <esing> tsimpson like this? sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jd-team/jdownloader
[14:12] <crancko> can someone explain why I dont have lan access?
[14:12] <tsimpson> esing: yes
[14:12] <esing> thanks
[14:12] <jrib> iwert: not in this channel
[14:13] <jrib> iwert: in any case, it seems sane.  What is it exactly that you do that doesn't work?  Use a pastebin to show what you type and full output
[14:13] <e-v-o> crancko: isn't there an "out of the box" solution?
[14:13] <iwert> tar: jre-7u7-linux-x64.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[14:14] <iwert> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[14:14] <jrib> iwert: you need to do the first step (download the file)
[14:14] <iwert> i am
[14:14] <Boffy> hello! does anyone know if Asus Eee PC 1015BX works well with Ubuntu (or one of it's derivatives) and also how strong is actually AMD FUSION DualCore C60-1.0Ghz? Let's say compared to P3 800 or something since i don't know these new CPU much
[14:14] <jrib> iwert: then you need to be in the directory where the file is to run your tar command
[14:15] <crancko> hello I can not connect to me old linksys wrt54 router via lan cable, what 2 do?
[14:15] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have a new Canon Pixma MG2140 all in one printer and when I use XSane to try scan documents it says - no devices available, how can I get it working?
[14:15] <BlueWolf> It prints
[14:16] <|Merlin|> Crancko, do you have link lights on your NIC? What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[14:17] <iwert> oke instald 2 things of java
[14:17] <behi> i need help for install driver dvb-t
[14:17] <iwert> its still not working
[14:18] <crancko> Merlin; yes the light turns green when I plug in cable into pc - old 8.04
[14:18] <jrib> iwert: you're being too vague.
[14:18] <crancko> I just put in a brand new cable to router but still can not connect
[14:19] <iwert> yes i am i dotn understand what im doing
[14:19] <|Merlin|> Crancko, open a terminal window, type: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[14:19] <|Merlin|> for dhcp ( if you have a reservation in dhcp server)
[14:19] <|Merlin|> auto eth0
[14:19] <|Merlin|> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:19] <|Merlin|> then save the file and restart your network service, or restart the computer
[14:19] <jrib> iwert: you say you "installed 2 things of java".  What things?  What exactly did you do?  (use paste.ubuntu.com if your reply is many lines).  You also say "its still not working".  What is not working?  How are you determining it is not working?
[14:19] <crancko> tks will try MERLIN
[14:20] <_mike_> crancko: is this 'old linksys' router the only router on your network? Does your PC have an IP address on the NIC connected to the router?
[14:20] <pseudonymous> I *know* I can't be the only one for whom Compiz insists on taking an unreasonable amount of CPU over time. After several hours my compiz process ends up taking 10% cpu steady even if I'm just staring at a terminal screen running htop (ncurses program) and all the real applications are tucked away elsewhere. I'm using an Nvidia card. Anyone found any way of fixing this ?
[14:20] <iwert> jdk and jvm
[14:21] <Calinou> |Merlin|: vi fanboy much? :P
[14:21] <|Merlin|> heck yeah! lol
[14:21] <crancko> Merlin; in terminal I put iface eth0 inet dhcp and return; iface command not found
[14:22] <|Merlin|> Crancko, no, you type those commands when you open /etc/network/interfaces... you have to edit that file
[14:22] <iwert> The file '/home/iwert/Desktop/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[14:22] <blackshirt> crancko, read the guides given carefully
[14:22] <iwert> what dous that mean
[14:22] <|Merlin|> do you know how to use vi?
[14:22] <crancko> Merlin oh ok I will do that
[14:22] <blackshirt> Crancko, i think you can more smart
[14:23] <blackshirt> iwert, that's mean you have been warning
[14:23] <jrib> iwert: which part do you not understand?
[14:23] <iwert> why cant i go past that
[14:23] <iwert> its just minecraft
[14:23] <jrib> iwert: if you right click on the file, you will see the permissions for it.  To execute a file, it must have the execute permissions
[14:24] <jrib> !permissions > iwert
[14:24] <crancko> Blackshirt; must have missed that guide, I will scan the screen to look for the guide
[14:24] <blackshirt> iwert, for some security measure, you should only run and download from trusted sources
[14:24] <iwert> why dint anyone tell me this
[14:25] <iwert> i instaled 2 things i dint need
[14:25] <jrib> iwert: we can only answer the questions asked
[14:25] <prashant_123456> i have multiple files starting with two numbers lik 01 02 03 etc and now i have to rename all removing the numbers any suggestions
[14:25] <iwert> wel i said that mincraft ditn run
[14:25] <blackshirt> crancko, you should open /etc/network/interfaces file and then edit some interface to use dhcp, not paste it on terminal
[14:26] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have a new Canon Pixma MG2140 all in one printer and when I use XSane to try scan documents it says - no devices available, I have got it to print so how can I get it to scan?
[14:26] <jrib> prashant_123456: if you know regex, the "rename" command will be your friend.  See « man rename » for some basic usage and examples.  Also note you should test what your command will do by running it with "-n" (it will do a dry run and only tell you what would happen if you omit the -n)
[14:26] <iwert> is there a video tutorial on ubuntu to know allot from since i dotn want to bother people to much here
[14:26] <jrib> !manual | iwert
[14:26] <prashant_123456> jrib, can u tell me how to do it
[14:27] <jrib> iwert: I don't know of a video tutorial, but that manual along with help.ubuntu.com are good places to start
[14:27] <prashant_123456> jrib, it will be more helpful if u tell me how to
[14:27] <blackshirt> iwert, chmod u+x for that files
[14:27] <jrib> prashant_123456: well... do you know regex?
[14:27] <Guest57289> ?
[14:27] <prashant_123456> jrib, no sir
[14:27] <jrib> prashant_123456: do you want to learn?
[14:28] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes
[14:28] <prashant_123456> jrib, please
[14:28] <jrib> prashant_123456: ok.  Are you in a terminal with the files you want to rename?
[14:28] <jrib> prashant_123456: ok.  Are you in a terminal IN THE DIRECTORY* with the files you want to rename?
[14:28] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes
[14:28] <prashant_123456> jrib yes
[14:28] <crancko> Merlin after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces do I need 2 reboot?
[14:29] <|Merlin|> Yes, either reboot or restart the network service so it scans that file again
[14:29] <crancko> Merlin tried to restart network-manager still no IP
[14:29] <blackshirt> crancko, no..just restart networking scrip
[14:29] <crancko> rebooting old pc now
[14:29] <Guest57289> .
[14:29] <|Merlin|> Roger...
[14:29] <crancko> old pc sloooow
[14:30] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes i m in my directory
[14:30] <|Merlin|> lol...I know that feeling
[14:30] <blackshirt> crancko, you make a misunderstanding
[14:30] <N03L> Any Unix language experts?
[14:30] <rsser> where can I find support for 8189 realtek semiconductore corp. RTL8187B wireless 802.11g 54mbps network adapter?
[14:30] <crancko> blackshirt, ok what did I get wrong?
[14:31] <blackshirt> n03l, what you need?
[14:31] <rsser> the id is 0bda:8189
[14:31] <blackshirt> Crancko, let's me explain
[14:31] <crancko> yes pls
[14:31] <jrib> prashant_123456: alright, well the basic syntax for rename is « rename -n 's/foo/bar/' file1 file2 ... » where "foo" is what you want to replace and "bar" is what you want to replace it with.  Now "foo" is a regular expression which is basically like globbing in the terminal but more powerful.  One example, is you can use character classes to mean "any character of this type".  So for example, "[0-9]" means
[14:31] <jrib> and digit 0-9.  So let's try this for starters and see what the result is: rename -n 's/[0-9]/X/' *  .  It is very important that you remember the "-n" since this command doesn't do what you actually want to do (but is a good start)
[14:31] <jrib> prashant_123456: let me know when you are done with that and if you have any questions
[14:32] <prashant_123456> jrib,  wait please
[14:32] <jrib> prashant_123456: sure
[14:32] <Calinou> N03L: unix is not a programming language, you mean shell?
[14:33] <Calinou> this is not a programming channel
[14:33] <blackshirt> Crancko, for default desktop ubuntu, network was handled by network manager
[14:33] <Cong> is there no way to empty the rubbish bin on a usb storage device?
[14:33] <N03L> What are the benefits of learning Unix?
[14:34] <jrib> Cong: unmounting doesn't do it?  I vaguely remember that suggestion once
[14:34] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes now i get what is foo and what is bar
[14:34] <clamscan> hi
[14:34] <Cong> Nope, jrib.
[14:34] <prashant_123456> but now i want to know that all my files are .mp3
[14:34] <clamscan> anyone using clamav?
[14:34] <crancko> blackshirt; so How can I make needed changes?
[14:35] <fidel> !anyone > clamscan
[14:35] <blackshirt> crancko, and /etc/network/interfaces was typically for server network configuration
[14:35] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes and also i have to remove first 2 characters
[14:35] <andornaut> Im trying to position my external monitor (connected to my laptop) to the left of the laptop screen, but I can't get it to work. It works fine when positioned to the right. Here's my xorg.conf. If I switch the metamodes lines I get a cloned display instead of positioning it with the specified offset: http://pastebin.com/HLaHNUKn Any ideas?
[14:35] <clamscan> how can i get a list of infected files after i 've run "clamscan -l logfile -rvi directory/
[14:35] <clamscan> "
[14:35] <clamscan> ?
[14:35] <crancko> ok, how to get old pc on home network via network manager?
[14:36] <Cong> Aren't there any ways to empty the bin without removing the usb storage?
[14:36] <andornaut> (note if I set it with xrandr --output LDVS-0 --pos XxY it works as expected, but not if those same settings are in xorg.conf
[14:36] <fidel> clamscan: try asking in #clamav aswell ;)
[14:36] <blackshirt> Crancko, if you want to use /etc/network/interfaces files instead through network manager configuration, you should set manage= false to NetworkManager.conf
[14:37] <Doxin> I'm having some trouble receiving tv using my tuner. plugging the cable into a tv finds ~20 channels. plugging it into my pc finds 4. what gives?
[14:37] <clamscan> fidel: ok, so what? have you ever used clamav?
[14:37] <jrib> prashant_123456: cool.  So you see in its current state 's/[0-9]/X' replaces one digit with X.  We want to change that a bit.  First off we want to make sure the digit is at the beginning of the file name.  The '^' character is used to denote the beginning.  The other thing we want to do is match not just one digit, but exactly two.  We could do this by writing our expression as '^[0-9][0-9]', but there's a
[14:37] <jrib> slightly nicer way.  We can use {2} to mean do the last type of match twice.  So our final result will look like '^[0-9]{2}'.  This means match at the beginning, exactly 2 digits (0-9).  And our final command will be: « rename -n 's/^[0-9]{2}//' * ».  Give that a try
[14:37] <crancko> blackshirt I now try lilve cd first, then I will check ur tips
[14:38] <jrib> prashant_123456: check and see if that looks right
[14:38] <clamscan> very helpful -_-
[14:39] <blackshirt> crancko, but if you need your network managed by network manager, you shouldn't configure your /etc/network/interfaces, or just for lo for loopback... And you can configure your network through network manager settings
[14:39] <jrib> Cong: I don't know then :/  What happens when you try to use the GUI to empty trash?  You could always just delete the relevant directory on the usb, but again, I don't know if there is a better way
[14:39] <clamscan> found, the string is 'FOUND'. thanks anyway
[14:40] <blackshirt> crancko, that's you should understand basically
[14:41] <Cong> That's the problem. I have stuff in the system rubbish bin, and the files from the usb get mixed with the ones on the system, and emptying it will remove the others that are in the other rubbish bin aswell, jirb.
[14:42] <jrib> Cong: I see.  Well is just deleting the trash directory on the usb a possibility?
[14:42] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have a new Canon Pixma MG2140 all in one printer and when I use XSane to try scan documents it says - no devices available, I have got it to print so how can I get it to scan?
[14:43] <Cong> I tried that. That still empties the system rubbish bin aswell.
[14:43] <blackshirt> bluwolf, not playing with scan and this devices before,sorry guys
[14:43] <jrib> Cong: that sounds odd.  What did you delete exactly?
[14:43] <Cong> Oh, you mean delete the Trash-xxxx?
[14:43] <jrib> Cong: yep
[14:44] <Cong> No hacks please.
[14:44] <jrib> Cong: ah.  Don't know then :)
[14:44] <Cong> :(
[14:44] <jrib> Cong: you could log in as a new user and then empty the trash, though you probably consider that a hack too
[14:45] <crancko> blackshirt + Merlin thx 4 all the hlp but I could not get it 2 work, my know how is to small - liveCD let me see the files I need
[14:45] <fidel> Cong: you could (however) parse the trash-metadata in Trash/info and select based on that info - as those filescontains the original trash-item path (but that would be another scripted hack)
[14:45] <tim442> BlueWolf: not had experience with that device, but i've found on other printers, the scan button does not properly intiate a scan, but using the scanning application in ubuntu to initiate will properly start the scan
[14:45] <blackshirt> crancko, not a matter ...
[14:45] <|Merlin|> crancko, you are welcome...sorry it didn't work but glad you got what you needed
[14:45] <crancko> I use liveCD 4 now and learn later :)
[14:46] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes thanks
[14:46] <Cong> There should be a standard way to delete files from just the usb storage. For now there doesn't seem to be one.
[14:46] <crancko> Is like stopping 2 smoke, or loose weight - there is always 2 morrow
[14:46] <tim442> Cong, show hidden files, delete .Trash folder?
[14:46] <blackshirt> crancko, you were a greats people
[14:47] <gaelfx> I've got a fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 running here, and my sound doesn't work. I've installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol, and despite those going off without a hitch, still no sound, what else can I do to get sound working?
[14:47] <blackshirt> gaelfx, have you have restricted extras installed?
[14:47] <BlueWolf> tim442: I did use a scanning application called Xsane, simplescan, scanner utility and scan tailor and they all fail to pick up the scanner. I have managed to get the printer to work well now it's just the scanner?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, do aplay -l in the terminal ...need to know your card
[14:48] <tim442> BlueWolf: is it a network attached device?  or direct USB?
[14:48] <BlueWolf> tim442: Direct USB.
[14:51] <gaelfx> er, can someone remind me how to send the output of one command as the input for pastebinit?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> !pastebinit
[14:52] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: thanks
[14:52] <Cong> I've removed the usb storage. The rubbish bin file count is more than the actual files in the rubbish bin. Emptying it still show the filled icon.
[14:53] <Cong> As I recall there files aren't in that rubbish bin, they are in the usb storage.
[14:54] <tim442> BlueWolf:  it seems the german canon website lists a lot of linux related items, but the USA version has virtually nothing.  maybe some searching on the .de site will help you
[14:54] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206950/
[14:55] <BlueWolf> tim442: I'm not familiar with the .de site, Could you possibly paste the URL? I don't have to know German to read it do I?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, looks like you hdmi output is the default..is this what you want , or dom you wnat the analog out as default ?
[14:56] <ogra_> BlueWolf, google translate ;)
[14:56] <gsteinert> BlueWolf: that's what google translate was made for =)
[14:57] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, you can make the choice in pavucontrol
[14:57] <BlueWolf> gsteinert: ogra_: Thanks, I was hoping I would not have to go to that extra effort. ;-)
[14:58] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: definitely don't want the hdmi as the default, since I rarely use it, but I don't see where in pavucontrol I can choose that?
[14:59] <N03L> Anyone know a good site/book to learn about unix?
[15:00] <Cong> N03L, what do you mean by Unix?
[15:00] <ThinkT510> N03L: unix is a very broad term
[15:00] <BluesKaj> gae it should show in the port drop down in output devices
[15:00] <BluesKaj> gaelfx,^
[15:00] <N03L> My bad, unix commands.
[15:00] <Cong> I think he means Posix.
[15:00] <blackshirt> n03l, a lot of book and documentations availables on internet
[15:00] <Cong> I think he means bash now.
[15:00] <ThinkT510> !terminal | N03L
[15:00] <N03L> Any in particular that you could recommend?
[15:01] <blackshirt> n03l, linuxcommand.org
[15:01] <gsteinert> N03L: i know there are people who will disagree with me, but I found the best way was to decide what I wanted to accomplish then google the hell out of it. you'll develop a much deeper understanding of the inner workings of unix/linux/wahtever it is you're using by fixing mistakes and errors that any book could ever teach you
[15:01] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: there's a Set as Fallback button on each device, but I'm not really sure which one is actually set as the fallback, the icons in there are kind of confusing :P
[15:01] <_Trullo> anyone able to help me find this file: jdk-6u5-linux-i586.bin ?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !java | _Trullo
[15:02] <Dr_willis> Linux/Unix can be thought of as being 'tool' focused. where you find what tools used in what order to get to the end goal you want.. windows tends to be 'task' focused. you find the one tool that does exactly what you want.
[15:03] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: I almost feel like something got botched on installation just because I selected to install the third-party mp3 software or whatever
[15:04] <N03L> thanks guys
[15:04] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if there's no output then the right module/driver is loaded
[15:04] <N03L> gsteinert: yeah defs, of course, I'm just using all the resources I can, including this forum.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, no 3rd party packages wouldn't have done that
[15:05] <blackshirt> n03l, good..you make some learning more awesome
[15:05] <gsteinert> N03L: IRC channels such as this are a lot more useful if you have a specific query you need answering, 'How do I learn unix' is about as vague as they come!
[15:05] <gsteinert> N03L: is there anything in particular you want to be able to do with your unix box?
[15:05] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: no output on that command
[15:06] <N03L> I want to learn how to check my emails via terminal.
[15:06] <esing> I want to remove shortcuts of my mounted drives on the starter. I tried to find gconf-editor, but I do not find it
[15:06] <N03L> I've tried a few methods, but always had problems with them.
[15:06] <blackshirt> greats n03l
[15:06] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , sudo alsa force-reload . if there' no output you may have to reboot
[15:07] <gaelfx> esing: sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
[15:07] <esing>  thanks
[15:07] <zal> so howto debug a tvtuner on ubuntu ?.?
[15:07] <blackshirt> n03l, you don't tell what are you doing to check email
[15:07] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: plenty of output on that one
[15:08] <zal> N03L: try to fix ur software with update on usb in service mode ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , now try your audio
[15:09] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: it's a no go
[15:09] <gsteinert> N03L: i guarantee that 90% of methods you try for anything will hit a snag somewhere. the important part is not to give up just becuase it didn't work first time. what problems were you experiencing?
[15:09] <araxis> hey everyone, i have a question regarding ubuntu server if anyone has a moment :)
[15:10] <zal> ubuntu tv server ?
[15:10] <gsteinert> araxis: if you have a question, ask! don't ask to ask
[15:10] <gaelfx> !ask > araxis
[15:10] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, reboot , or try toi set the pavucontrol to the setting with analog in it
[15:10] <blackshirt> araxis, what the problems ?
[15:10] <N03L> gsteinert: I haven't given up. I've just posponed.. LOL! I'll get back to you on that one.,
[15:12] <araxis> blackshirt, i was given a few older servers and i am planning to run 2 of them. i was wondering if its feasible to install ubuntu to both of them
[15:12] <araxis> i guess ermm, thats not a good description of what i want..
[15:12] <blackshirt> how older your server?
[15:12] <dubaco> Hi, a friend has asked me to fix there px, i read an article from someone in a magasine about how they used a bootable usb to clean there windows drive from a virus, have you any idea how i can clean the windows drive on my friends machine. I have booted into a her machine via a usb drive, the graphics wont work can you help me scan the windows drive using clamav on the usb ubuntu?
[15:12] <dubaco> pc*
[15:13] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: I just figured it out, it seems no matter which I set fallback to, it defaults to hdmi
[15:13] <araxis> i wanted to have these 2 servers work together or act as one system, i dont know if thats a reasonable expectation
[15:13] <fidel> araxis: what for? or why?
[15:13] <araxis> they're really old, like, original xeons i believe
[15:13] <blackshirt> araxis, yes..you can
[15:14] <araxis> no particular reason fidel, i just got these servers because i wanted to play around with the hardware and stuff
[15:14] <esing> I followed this instruction but nautilus does not inhabit the options mentioned in the instructions http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/06/how-to-hide-mounted-drives-from-ubuntu.html
[15:14] <blackshirt> duraco, yes,
[15:14] <zal> ubuntu tv server
[15:14] <araxis> i thought it would be cool to explore set up one server, then i thought it would be cooler to have multiple machines be connected together
[15:14] <blackshirt> esing, sorry, i can't follow your link given
[15:14] <esing> solved
[15:15] <araxis> the long term goal isnt much, probably host my mud on it, and maybe others
[15:15] <esing> blackshirt solved, it was because the tutorial was for ubuntu 11 (not unity)
[15:15] <esing> blackshirt instead i need to use this command: gconftool --set /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/devices_option  --type=int 0
[15:15] <blackshirt> araxis, you will learn some great thing...
[15:15] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: any idea how I can change the default?
[15:16] <blackshirt> greats esing
[15:16] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , open this file with root permissions , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:16] <blackshirt> congratulations,
[15:16] <araxis> blackshirt its all about learning for me, and trying complicated stuff. if i break my installation, no worries
[15:16] <araxis> complicated for me anyway
[15:16] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: done
[15:17] <fidel> araxis: you could do similar things with a pair of virtual machines - just as alternative idea
[15:17] <blackshirt> araxis, it doesn't a matter ...
[15:17] <jerrrys> araxis, i use an old server for my desktop machine, noiesy but i like it.  whats the make of yours?
[15:17] <esing> blackshirt thanks
[15:18] <araxis> fidel: well thats why im here! I really dont know what the best approach is, but i have 2 fully working servers with acceptable hardware, so im trying to figure out my options
[15:18] <__mike__> araxis, Have a google for "ubuntu cluster", or have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Clustering
[15:18] <N03L> What other channels can I join besides ubuntu?
[15:18] <N03L> Are IRC like weechat only exclusive to  help forums?
[15:18] <araxis> jerrys: believe it or not, the systems are custom built and the cases are called "red wings"
[15:18] <N03L> Or can I sing into a social forum?
[15:18] <N03L> sign*
[15:18] <blackshirt> araxis, you could make some clustering or load balancing
[15:18] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, then at the bottom , add this line:  options snd_hda_intel index=0
[15:19] <araxis> jerrrys: they are pentium 3 xeons i think, with raid scsi drives and 2gb ram
[15:19] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: haha, I was just gonna ask if that's what I should do :P
[15:19] <ThinkT510> N03L: /join ##linux if you want more broader linux based help
[15:19] <araxis> jerrrys: and each system is dual cpu
[15:19] <blackshirt> araxis, you can maximize your server with linux
[15:19] <fidel> araxis: well if its just about playing with tech AND no need to havethose servicesrunning all day long i would always go the vmway on my desktop. saves energy and isnt that different on the other hand ;)
[15:19] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, save the file , then reboot
[15:19] <ThinkT510> N03L: this channel is only focused on ubuntu support
[15:19] <blackshirt> Especially with full text mode,
[15:20] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: force-reloading alsa again won't fix it?
[15:20] <araxis> blackshirt: clustering is the key, got it
[15:20] <N03L> ThinkT510: Makes sense. Thanks man.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, you can try , but i think whatever you set in pavucontrol is over riding the alsa.conf settings atm
[15:20] <araxis> fidel: do you have a link i could look at? how would i do this for 2 rigs?
[15:21] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: actually, I just tried, and it did work!
[15:21] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok
[15:21] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: thanks heaps, that was truly a wonderful session
[15:22] <BluesKaj> you have audio then , gaelfx? ..a bit surprising actaully , a reboot is usually required
[15:22] <jerrrys> araxis, sounds usable, i just load the ubuntu desktop and play with it for a while.  got a video card?
[15:23] <araxis> jerrrys: indeed i do :)
[15:23] <blackshirt> araxis, maybe better for server edition on it
[15:23] <fidel> araxis: installing a virtual machine software on your desktop, start that vm-software and define 2 virtual hosts/machines. install any os you want in those vms - set the network up for all vm's and there you go. virtualbox or vmware are known vm-solutions. no need for having extra hardware powered up 24x7
[15:24] <fidel> at the end its about what & how you want to play ... both virtual or real machines might do the job depending what you need/want. wasjust trying to point that out araxis
[15:25] <araxis> blackshirt: i currently only have 1 server running and it has server edition installed on it, 12.04. so far all ive done is setup ssh so i can use the command line from my desktop
[15:25] <araxis> jerrrys: my house is turning in to a sauna
[15:26] <blackshirt> araxis, you making a greats step on learning
[15:26] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: yeah, it's definitely working, now I just need to voodoo some media key bindings
[15:27] <araxis> fidel: i see what you're saying, that sounds pretty cool actually. i have this long term vision of hosting my own mud on these servers and perhaps several other muds. or anything really, but that's a long way out
[15:27] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok cool
[15:27] <jerrrys> araxis, oh yes, for about the heat.  what are they, 5u's?
[15:27] <araxis> fidel: ive always wanted to host stuff because its fun, no other reason really
[15:28] <araxis> jerrrys: 4u's
[15:28] <jerrrys> yep
[15:29] <Kryptron> xfe100
[15:29] <Cong> there is no entry for Removal Drives and Media in my system/preferences!
[15:29] <BlueWolf> tim442: I downloaded the package but which one do I install and how do I?
[15:30] <araxis> jerrrys: ive been pleasantly surprised by these servers performance. maybe i had a prejudice against p3's idk, i thought theyd be awful
[15:30] <Cong> I'm reading UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto on help.ubuntu.com/community.
[15:31] <araxis> jerrrys: but when i started them up and they had windows 2003 server installed, they ran really smooth and quickly. im guessing i didnt give the dual cpu thing enough credit, or maybe its the scsi drives
[15:31] <araxis> jerrrys: not sure
[15:31] <jerrrys> araxis, dual p3's sound like a good deal to me
[15:32] <jerrrys> whats the clock?
[15:32] <yadira> is tehre a program thath can clean mount points,,,,or refresh the mount point,,,i have this issue with my terra that was just working fine,,,,,,http://imagebin.org/228518
[15:33] <AntIGlenda> how to change font in alt+f1 console ?
[15:33] <AntIGlenda> c-alt-fN
[15:33] <araxis> jerrrys: if you want to see the case http://imagebin.org/228520
[15:33] <araxis> jerrrys: 1ghz
[15:34] <Cong> AntIGlenda, ctrl + -/+, maybe?
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> ,,,,,
[15:34] <Cong> ......
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> ee doesnt work
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> :D
[15:35] <yadira> i get this when accesing my terra,,,,mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[15:35] <jerrrys> araxis, if i remember right, thats the top of the line p3
[15:36] <araxis> jerrrys: its very close, they may have gone a little faster but not by much
[15:36] <Cong> AntIGlenda, try the ones on the keypad.
[15:37] <_Trullo> need to install this jdk-6u5-linux-i586.bin on my raspberry pi.. anyone wanna help me out?
[15:38] <AntIGlenda> Cong: still doesnt work. this is pure console without X ctrl+alt+f1
[15:38] <ogra_> _Trullo, you are aware that the RPi is an arm based system and that your "i586" file is for x86 systems ?
[15:38] <jerrrys> araxis, good luck, im out of here :)
[15:38] <ogra_> (read: that cant work)
[15:39] <_Trullo> ogra, I have a program that is based on jdk 6u5.. is it possible at all to get this on my arm based system?
[15:39] <Cong> AntIGlenda, is number lock on?
[15:40] <ogra_> _Trullo, no idea, ask the distributor of the RPi image you use, ubuntu doesnt even run on the raspberry
[15:40] <AntIGlenda> Cong: i even dont know how to name it properly, yes number lock is on
[15:42] <Cong> AntIGlenda, on gnome-terminal view/zoom in or out.
[15:42] <faiq> how i can upgrage ubuntu 10.04 lts to ubuntu 12?
[15:42] <AntIGlenda> Cong: its not gnome-terminal
[15:42] <Cong> I don't know what you're on so I can't help.
[15:43] <AntIGlenda> Cong: this is text console
[15:43] <AntIGlenda> Cong: default text console coming with every linux without X11
[15:44] <Cong> How many points do you think the font is?
[15:44] <Cong> 10pt?
[15:44] <AntIGlenda> i wnat to change this font to something else and if it is possible to use regional settings
[15:44] <AntIGlenda> with proper local font
[15:45] <_kud> Hello
[15:45] <_kud> I've got two questions about ubuntu on virtualbox
[15:45] <AntIGlenda> i dont know ;)
[15:45] <_kud> First of all, I don't succeed to mount automatically my shared folder via fstab
[15:45] <truexfan81> why is my sudo password not working for gksu?
[15:45] <esing> Is there already a burning program in Ubuntu 12.04 or should I install one?
[15:46] <esing> (I need to burn an iso )
[15:46] <ThinkT510> !burn | esing
[15:46] <_kud> even with shared_folder /home/user/host vboxsf defaults 0 0
[15:46] <esing> Thanks
[15:46] <_kud> in my fstab
[15:46] <ThinkT510> esing: i like xfburn
[15:46] <andrealto98> hi guys!
[15:46] <_kud> it's weird because sudo mount -t vboxsf shared_folder /home/user/host works perfectly
[15:46] <araxis> blackshirt: thanks for your help
[15:47] <araxis> fidel: thank you for the help!
[15:47] <esing> Oh.. there is already a burning program in ubuntu 12.04 called Brasero ... did not know that!
[15:47] <araxis> !ask gaelfx
[15:47] <araxis> !ask > gaelfx
[15:48] <araxis> shame..
[15:48] <andrealto98> have you install ubuntu 12.10 alpha yet?
[15:48] <truexfan81> anyone?
[15:48] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | andrealto98
[15:49] <truexfan81> ubuntu 12.04 minimal, my password that works for sudo does not work for gksu, i need help
[15:49] <_kud> Okay it works now
[15:49] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: what are you attempting to launch with gksudo?
[15:50] <_kud> The second question is I would like to make my shared folder as /home/user
[15:50] <truexfan81> gdebi
[15:50] <andrealto98> in your ubuntu version have you got Unity Gnome KDE XFCE or LXDE?
[15:51] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: you shouldn't need to, just right click the file and open with gdebi
[15:51] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: any reason you aren't using the repo?
[15:51] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: that works until i click the install button
[15:51] <andrealto98> ping -s 10 www.google.com
[15:52] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: i'm attempting to install inxi, its not in the repos
[15:52] <ogra_> truexfan81, what do you mean by "12.04 minimal" ?
[15:52] <andrealto98> exit
[15:52] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: are its dependencies in the repo?
[15:52] <ThinkT510> !mini | ogra_
[15:52] <andrealto98> freenode join channel
[15:52] <andrealto98> free
[15:52] <andrealto98> opensource
[15:53] <ogra_> ThinkT510, ah, k,. so the mini.iso, i thought he might have used the ubuntu-core tarball (which comes completely unconfigured ... i.e. without the ubuntu sudo setup)
[15:53] <Chewtwig> Trying to install Edubuntu turned my computer into a doorstop >:C anyways I still want to, do I have to completely format my hard drive or do I need to burn another md5summed iso disc or get a new computer
[15:54] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: i got it installed using dpkg in terminal
[15:54] <gigatropolis>  #brewtarget
[15:55] <truexfan81> sigh
[15:55] <truexfan81> System:    Host buntupc Kernel 3.2.0-30-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop N/A Distro Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[15:55] <truexfan81> there we go
[15:55] <Cong> AntIGlenda, do you get those load beeps from the system bell?
[15:56] <Cong> I hate those.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, what is the evidence of a doorstop?
[15:57] <Cong> laud beeps...
[15:57] <Chewtwig> no response as if locked in some sort of endless loop
[15:57] <unperson> When I run the release upgrade from upgrade manager, does it download packages from the mirrors normally used for other updates (specified in /etc/sources.list) or always from the official Ubuntu mirror?
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, do you get grub menu before this?
[15:57] <Chewtwig> installing not running
[15:58] <ChogyDan> unperson: I think from whatever mirror you have setup
[15:58] <Chewtwig> it fouls up jsut at the end :C
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, Ah, I have no idea what this :C means
[15:58] <Chewtwig> it means exaggerated displeasure
[15:59] <Chewtwig> in a childlike way
[15:59] <Chewtwig> :C
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, Ah, have you tried any other linux installs?
[15:59] <Chewtwig> slackware but that wont automatically detect my wifi or auto use it
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, It does  not sound like hardware problem if it has run other OS's, I guess you need one that runs, how old is the computer what is the ram and cpu?
[16:02] <Chewtwig> about nigh old, with about 3 giggles of RAM & a processor of a couple or so gigahertz :3
[16:04] <Chewtwig> not so old rly
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, If it was me I would investigate the graphics and wifi/ethernet card as far as releases I suppose, all you can really do and find a OS that should run. Ubuntu like others have lots of drivers. I assume here as well you are setting up the installs correctly, and know exactly the file and partition types. card
[16:05] <Chewtwig> it ran be4
[16:08] <Anonaly> buna ziua
[16:13] <rsser> how can I know if my system is PAE or NON-PAE?
[16:14] <blackshirt> rsser, your kernel or your cpu?
[16:14] <rsser> my kernel
[16:15] <blackshirt> rsser, usually, your kernel would named with pae on their name
[16:15] <blackshirt> paste your uname -a
[16:15] <xoxo> ciao a tutti  ho nun prolema con la tanstiera
[16:16] <ogra_> !it
[16:16] <blackshirt> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[16:16] <blackshirt> !pae
[16:16] <ogra_> that info smells a bit outdated :)
[16:25] <droxight> what is the topic?
[16:27] <jrib> droxight: ubuntu technical support
[16:28] <viren> sir 4.1 channel speker does not working on my pc
[16:28] <viren> plz give me any solution
[16:28] <_DiviC_> Hello friends!
[16:28] <name_> while checking the signal strength of a CDMA modem, i get following error--> Error reading signal quality: org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.General: Could not parse signal quality results
[16:28] <scarrs> viren: have you tried alsamixer?
[16:28] <name_> any idea what to do?
[16:28] <viren> i hd try sir
[16:29] <_DiviC_> A lost wanderer is looking for help. Anyone available?
[16:29] <viren> but my rear speker not working
[16:29] <scarrs> is it muted?
[16:30] <_DiviC_> I got a P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3 motherboard. Now to the issue. There is no sound driver available from Asus own site, is there other drivers that might be useful?
[16:31] <ogra_> _DiviC_, on linux you usually dont need vendor drivers
[16:31] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: Here's the strategy I used back when I didn't buy thinkpads: type 'lspci' and find the sound card
[16:31] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: then throw the entire line into google, in quotes.
[16:32] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: it'll say something like 'audio device' in lspci
[16:34] <_DiviC_> Oh, I'll try that right away. While I'm doing that you could think of my other problem. Everything freezes in short periods where I can't interact with anything. The mouse and keyboard still works fine, but can't click or write anything.
[16:36] <ThinkT510> _DiviC_: either something is seriously taxing your cpu or its a graphics driver problem
[16:36] <_DiviC_> My CPU is fine. High end computer and from what I know, ubuntu isn't that heavy
[16:37] <_DiviC_> Guess I'll have to dive into the gpu then
[16:37] <gsteinert> _DiviC_, you could try keeping a terminal window open with top or htop running, you'll be able to see the state of your CPU as and when things freeze up
[16:41] <name_> while checking the signal strength of a CDMA modem, i get following error--> "Error reading signal quality: org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.General: Could not parse signal quality results" any idea on how to diagnose? i am using ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <jnb> what is the command to install an autorun package from terminal
[16:44] <iljo> hello, i have a problem setting up ubuntu 12.04 on my newly purchased dell inspiron 17R-5720
[16:45] <iljo> i need a wireless driver, where would one find this
[16:47] <jnb> anyone know the terminal command to install a software
[16:47] <gsteinert> jnb, sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[16:47] <Fuchs> sudo apt-get install packagename
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, note you do need to know the package name
[16:48] <jnb> I downloaded the package from the internet
[16:48] <jnb> I am installing a printer
[16:48] <ohmygoddess> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, each time when I start, it said  no argument specified
[16:48] <jnb> I have the package downloaded to the desktop
[16:49] <gsteinert> sudo dpkg install <filename>
[16:49] <gsteinert> ... i think
[16:49] <gsteinert> its been a while
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> there is a problem with grml-debootstrap on ubuntu:
[16:49] <JyZyXEL>  * Executing: debootstrap --arch amd64 --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg  sid /mnt/debootstrap.14681 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/
[16:49] <fidel> jnb: if possible - you should always try tp install using ubuntus paketmangement
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> I: Retrieving Release
[16:49] <ogra_> if it is a .deb file
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> I: Retrieving Release.gpg
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> E: Release signed by unknown key (key id AED4B06F473041FA)
[16:49] <_DiviC_> During my freeze my CPU didn't get over 1%
[16:49] <jnb> it not available in software center or package manager
[16:49] <jnb> this is the samsung unifed printer drivers for linux systems
[16:49] <ogra_> JyZyXEL, better ask in a debian channel
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> ogra_: grml-deboostrap ON UBUNTU
[16:50] <fidel> jnb: so what file type is itß
[16:50] <jnb> I used cd to browse the folder
[16:50] <jnb> autorun
[16:50] <jnb> file
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> in debian it works just fine
[16:50] <jnb> when I double click on it I dont have administrative priviliges
[16:50] <ogra_> JyZyXEL, and ? the release file comes from the debian server
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> its ubuntu where it does not work
[16:50] <jnb> without enabling the root account
[16:50] <jnb> i would like to run this software
[16:51] <jnb> i am using terminal as sudo su
[16:51] <jnb> is it install or sudo I tried them both
[16:51] <gsteinert> jnb: you wont be able to install without using sudo or being loggedi n as root
[16:52] <jnb> what is the sudo command
[16:52] <gsteinert> what format is the file? does it have a .deb extension?
[16:52] <jnb> no autorun
[16:52] <jnb> I just need the admin command to install the autorun
[16:52] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, what software
[16:52] <jnb> Samsung Unified Printer Driver
[16:52] <jnb> for linux os
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, did they give you installation instructions?
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> they should ahve
[16:53] <jnb> yes
[16:53] <orated> Hello! I'm trying to ssh to my linux system from outside its internal network. My connection setup is as follows - ADSL router followed by wireless router. Both the routers are configured for ssh on port 22. I'm able to ssh within systems in the same network but not from outside. I'm facing this problem only after trying dydns option in the routers. I later changed the config to its previous working state. Now, I always get "ssh_exchange_identification:
[16:53] <orated>  Connection closed by remote host" error. How can I fix this?
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> and are you following them?
[16:53] <jnb> however they advise you log in as root user
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, sudo [command] will do the same thing
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntu has no root user per se
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> !root | jnb
[16:53] <jnb> lol
[16:53] <jnb> Matrix
[16:54] <jnb> what is the command
[16:54] <Matrix> jnb?
[16:54] <Muelli> well. "sudo -s" or "sudo -i" will "log you in as root".
[16:54] <ogra_> lol
[16:54] <jnb> I am aware of sudo
[16:54] <ohmygoddess> Hello, I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, each time I start , there is an error:  no argument specified
[16:54] <gsteinert> orated, seems like a network issue.. is port 22 being forwarded properly by both routers?
[16:55] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: how do you that there is an error?
[16:55] <phyrexianslug> If you ever want to set a root password:  sudo passwd root
[16:55] <ohmygoddess> if I restart my system, the error shows up
[16:55] <ohmygoddess> even the windows system
[16:55] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: where does it show up?
[16:55] <gsteinert> ohmygoddess, does it get past the bootloader?
[16:56] <jnb> I just want to run autorun that came with the samsung package
[16:56] <jnb> simple question
[16:56] <orated> gsteinert: Yes, I checked that back again In the first router its forwarded to 192.168.1.4 for SSH 22 TCP followed in next wireless router for port 22 to 192.168.10.101
[16:56] <gsteinert> ohmygoddess, by that i mean do you ever see anything that say linux, ubuntu or windows when booting?
[16:56] <ohmygoddess> yes, it get past the bootloader, I can press any key or not
[16:56] <jnb> what command allows your to run or install a software
[16:56] <ogra_> jnb, right, just follow the install isntructions they gave you
[16:56] <Muelli> jnb: there is no such thing as "autorun". that doesn't make sense.
[16:56] <jnb> it needs me to log in as root user
[16:56] <orated> gsteinert: Same configuration used to work before
[16:56] <ogra_> jnb, and where is say to do stuff as root you prefix the command with sudo
[16:56] <jnb> sudo and then what install
[16:57] <ogra_> jnb, if they want you to run all commands as root, just prefix all of them with sudo ;)
[16:57] <jnb> will someone just answer the question what is the command to install in terminal
[16:57] <ogra_> jnb, the command from the instructions
[16:57] <Muelli> jnb: use "sudo -s" and you're "logged in as root". done.
[16:57] <ohmygoddess> Muelli: it shows up before the accounts appears
[16:57] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: well, can you make a screenshot or anything, because it's entirely unclear to me where you get "an error".
[16:58] <sklo> hello, grub2 problem - every time i restart, i got messed up disks once is sdB another time sdC any1 has i clue how to fix it or manage it?
[16:58] <gsteinert> orated, it seems like the ssh server isn't responding - or refusing the connection. check the config and make sure it's listening on the right interface
[16:58] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, and what doesnt work for you (apart from you seeing an info message on the screen) ?
[16:58] <Muelli> sklo: you use uuids. Not partition names.
[16:58] <sklo> Muelli i thought i did
[16:59] <sklo> Muelli ty thought
[16:59] <ohmygoddess> orga_: everything works fine, just the message is annoying
[16:59] <Muelli> jnb: In Ubuntu we install software using the software centre or "apt-get install". If third parties do not want to go through the software centre, they need to provide sensible instructions as to how to install it. So I'd ask the vendor.
[16:59] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, i seriously doubt that is an error, its likely just a program telling you it runs without arguments
[16:59] <Muelli> well sklo. If you really want to fix the names, not recommended though, you can write a udev rule.
[17:00] <jnb> if you dont know say you dont know
[17:00] <gsteinert> sklo, your /etc/fstab file should show whether your system is using UUID's. dont go editing it if you dont know what you're doing though
[17:00] <jnb> i dont need opinions
[17:00] <jnb> I asked a simple question
[17:00] <jnb> what is the install command
[17:00] <jnb> if you dont know keep your opinions
[17:00] <ogra_> jnb, Muelli gave you the command to become root above ...
[17:00] <ohmygoddess> ogra_: is there anyway to get rid of the message?
[17:00] <jnb> I am logged in as root
[17:00] <jnb> I am using the terminal
[17:00] <ogra_> jnb, great, so just follow their instructions
[17:00] <gsteinert> jnb, your question is like going into burger king and asking how to make a big mac
[17:00] <fidel> jnb: either read the install instructions - or search the web on how to execute an .autorun file. but dont blame others for offering help ;)
[17:01] <jnb> you dont know because this same file was executed in terminal with LMDE
[17:01] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, depends wheer it comes from ... i woudl start with filing a bug in launchpad and attaching logs you will be asked for by the devs
[17:01] <jnb> in the xchat session they advised to cd to the autorun file and type the following in terminal to execute
[17:02] <ogra_> once it ios clear where it comes from you can likely quieten it
[17:02] <ogra_> jnb, you cant cd to a file
[17:02] <ohmygoddess> ogra_: I am a newbee, where I can find the log?
[17:02] <ogra_> you can cd to a directory
[17:02] <sklo> Muelli I'm just reading about changing all to uuid, grub 1 was way esier in coniguring
[17:03] <jnb> your reading to much into my comment ogra
[17:03] <jnb> i know that
[17:03] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: are you logged in, when the problem appears? If so, you can make a screenshot by pressing the print button.
[17:03] <jnb> i am at the directory with the autorun
[17:03] <jnb> again useless info
[17:03] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, just run ubuntu-bug ... it will do everything for you
[17:03] <ohmygoddess> Muelli, it is just before I logged in
[17:03] <gsteinert> sklo, the assignment of sd* names is done by udev, not grub. udev uses /etc/fstab to decide what to mount on startup
[17:04] <ohmygoddess> Muelli: it is after I choose windows or ubuntu to start, and before I logged in
[17:04] <ogra_> jnb, well, then help yourself, i wont waste my saturday evening for someone who cant express himself right and blames me for giving the proper hints based on that
[17:04] <fidel> ogra_: +1 ;)
[17:04] <jnb> good
[17:04] <Muelli> ack
[17:05] <gsteinert> jnb: if you're just going to criticise the help you are getting, don't bother asking in the first place. people in here do this in their free time, they are not a paid for helpdesk... such is the linux community
[17:06] <nirav> hey
[17:06] <Zuten> jnb: If it is an executable file you could run it with ./<filename>  where you exchange <filename> with the name of the file
[17:06] <gsteinert> hey nirav
[17:06] <Zuten> jnb: that is dot and slash before the filename
[17:06] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT adaptator Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thaank you !
[17:06] <Muelli> nb: the file has to have the executable flag set, i.e. chmod a+x $filename
[17:07] <Muelli> ougogo: how do you know it doesn't work?
[17:07] <IRCMonkey> Hi i am trying to install ubuntu, but it seams doesnot recognice the hard disk. how could i format it, or what can i do? thanks.
[17:07] <danes> hello, anyone knows if its possible to run the musicbrainz music tagger from terminal?
[17:07] <Muelli> IRCMonkey: can you pastebin us the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> danes,  thjat a linux app? windows app? what excatly?
[17:08] <Muelli> danes: probably. You can "locate musicbrainz" to see whether there is an executable at all.
[17:08] <nirav> i am new in ubuntu..i downloaded theme which extention is tar.gz...after extracting ..i try to open with theme manager...it`s show invalid theme package..but now i cannot open any place from short cute...for example when i openhome,it show appearance manager
[17:09] <gsteinert> danes: i did use it briefly and iirc it was a GUI app only... but things may have changed/my memory may be fuzzy
[17:09] <danes> Dr_willis, picard is the app that runs musicbrainz but it is a gui version
[17:10] <danes> gsteinert, yes, it is a gui app as far as I know
[17:10] <gsteinert> nirav, have you tried opening the downloaded file instead of the extracted contents?
[17:10] <nirav> i try both
[17:10] <IRCMonkey> Muelli: how do i get the console?
[17:10] <Muelli> IRCMonkey: Ctrl+Alt+T
[17:12] <gsteinert> danes, http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainzEnabledApplications <-- take a look at that, beets may suit your purpose
[17:15] <ougogo> Bonsoir, j'essaie en vain d'installer une clé tnt Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro ..... J'ai suivi à la lettre ce tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491 Mais cela ne fonctionne pas :s Quelqu'un saurait-il m'aider ?
[17:15] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT adaptator Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thaank you !
[17:15] <gsteinert> !fr > ougogo
[17:16] <gsteinert> nirav, .tar.gz often require building before they can be used. are there any install instructions in the extracted files?
[17:18] <Ecki> Guten Abend
[17:24] <munsking> hello, after installing nvidia drivers for my system(ubu 12.04, nvidia GTX 560ti) my second monitor displays a white screen with black X as cursor, rightclick works like on the desktop though
[17:24] <munsking> does anyone know a solution, or what the problem might be so i can find one myself?
[17:25] <AndroUser> Sss
[17:26] <Boreeas> Is there a way to reload the sound system without restarting the computer? Something crashed it, and all sounds are distorted now
[17:26] <AndroUser> Hello people
[17:26] <AndroUser>  is there any one
[17:27] <ogra_> Boreeas, you coudl try running: pulseaudio -k
[17:27] <ogra_> Boreeas, but that wont help if anything is wrong on the underlying level (alsa)
[17:28] <hfic> Boreeas, or just restart x
[17:31] <munsking> so, does anyone have any idea about the 2nd monitor problem?
[17:31] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT device Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thaank you !
[17:32] <Boreeas> Restarting pulseaudio did the job. Thanks
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> ougogo, I don't know how many here read french I don't can you you give a bit of s description in english.
[17:38] <r3dux> If you're going to call yourself plagiarism, spell it correctly ;-)
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> a*
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> !pm > ougogo
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> ougogo, The channel is better for help, my suggestion of a understandable description does not mean I know the fix, and I don't pm. ;)
[17:44] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT device Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thank you !
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, you didnt read that tutorial then, did you not notice it *lists* what cards it'd work for?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> that device you mentioned isnt on that list.
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> or perhaps it does
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, did you check the ID of the device to make sure it matches?
[17:46] <ougogo> AVerTV HD PRO : it's my device, just less "avertmedia"
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> and check the "ID" field against the list of devices in that post
[17:47] <ougogo> Yes yes, it(s the same ID : http://pastebin.com/0rSVqyHQ
[17:48] <tking> hi please i have opera installed, but it wouldn't load when i try to launch it. From terminal i typed "opera" and i got opera this ------ [crash logging]: CRASH!! opera: error while reading system fonts, /usr/lib/opera/opera got signal SIGSEGV at address 08670986
[17:49] <strawbmx> hola
[17:50] <strawbmx> HolaaaaaA! :)
[17:51] <strawbmx> alguien? :)
[17:53] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[17:54] <gsteinert> !es ? strawbmx
[17:55] <gsteinert> strawbmx, hi strawbmx, this is an english only channel - if you ahve a question ask away
[17:57] <gsteinert> strawbmx, Para los españoles, trate de #ubuntu-es (with thanks to google translate)
[17:57] <black_13_> what doe it mean hd-media in reference to a preseed file?
[17:57] <strawbmx> ok ty
[18:01] <notlrax> hello
[18:02] <notlrax> xbuntu is good to use
[18:03] <Spamicles> So is there a channel to ask questions in that is a bit more populated?
[18:04] <gsteinert> this is one of the busier channels =P what is your question?
[18:04] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[18:06] <gsteinert> Spamicles: judging by the narrow focus of your question, you'll be lucky to get an answer straight away. in this, I think forums may be your friend. a forum post is likely to be viewed far more over a longer time, you have a better chance of finding someone with the same problem
[18:07] <Spamicles> gsteinert, is that the ubuntu launchpad?
[18:08] <gsteinert> launchpad is a bug repoting tool, but could work for you.
[18:08] <Spamicles> gsteinert, so just google ubuntu support forum? =]
[18:09] <gsteinert> i think that's your best bet... and file a bug report too, especially if you can narrow down what is causing the problem at all. a bug report is more likely to be seen by the right people if it is filed correctly.
[18:10] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com  - is worth checking out also.
[18:10] <Spamicles> gsteinert, another quick question. i installed the r statistics package (r-base), but cant figure out how to run it. when i install a package, how do i figure out the command to execute it?
[18:11] <gsteinert> you could check the project website, or run `man <packagename>`
[18:14] <crilly> OK, I have re-installed the nVidia driver and everything goes blurry and crap, even in Fluxbox. Gah
[18:16] <karamel4e_> Question about gddrescue: when specifying the 'output file' should it be /dev/something or /media/somethin?
[18:20] <anon_> How can I kill the session of another user?
[18:20] <anon_> When I login as another user the GUI totally hangs. So I would like to kill it.
[18:22] <lilVaratep> popular terminal music players?
[18:22] <OerHeks> anon_, pkill -KILL -u <username>
[18:24] <anon__> How can I kill the session of another user? When I login as another user the GUI totally hangs. So I would like to kill it.
[18:25] <gsteinert> anon__: see OerHeks message above
[18:25] <maalo> Hi, When I try Ubuntu Live, I lose internet connection because it is with a ".local" domain. What is it, is it fixable? Thanks.
[18:25] <anon__> gsteinert, I can not see it because when he posted it I got disconnected. Could you paste it?
[18:25] <gsteinert> anon__: pkill -KILL -u <username>
[18:26] <miwa_> okay, seriously, how do I make the 'update manager' stop appearing randomly?
[18:26] <gsteinert> maalo: you mean you cant access .local sites but other websites work?
[18:26] <karamel4e_> Question about gddrescue: when specifying the 'output file' should it be /dev/something or /media/somethin?
[18:28] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: a quick gogle suggests its the device, not the mount point (/dev/sd-something)
[18:28] <trism> miwa_: if 12.04, in dconf-editor, com.ubuntu.update-notifier, uncheck autolaunch, then you should get an indicator when updates are available but update-manager won't just pop up
[18:28] <maalo> gsteinert: ethernet and wireless get disconected after some seconds after Unity is loaded because my provider uses a .local domain. I have no access at all to internet then.
[18:28] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: http://onubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/command-line-hard-disk-cloning-with.html
[18:29] <gsteinert> maalo: how do you know it is because your provider uses a .local domain?
[18:29] <miwa> trism: thanks! what does the indicator look like?
[18:29] <lilVaratep> is there a command line visualizer ?
[18:29] <lilVaratep> ya know, the thing that moves up and down as sound changes
[18:30] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I thought it is only for the 'input file'. Thanks, it is written that it would destroy the data in output device. Also it is for ddrescue, do you think it will apply to gddrescue also?
[18:30] <trism> miwa: depends on the update/icon theme, in faenza it is a white blob on normal updates and a red blob on security updates (I think it might be orange for normal and red for security in the default theme), you should notice it when it appears
[18:31] <alecst> gvim doesn't show up when i superkey-a search for it in 12.04. googled the problem and couldn't find anything. anyone have an idea why?
[18:31] <maalo> gsteinert: after some seconds of being connected, unity shows a label for a couple of seconds saying that about .local domain, and I should call my internet provider
[18:32] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, sorry, my mistake for the gddrescue I wrote, thanks, I will take a look at it
[18:32] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: i did miss that difference... the manpage should confirm it for you, run `man gddrescue`. and usually when providing a device as an output any data already on it will be destroyed
[18:32] <gsteinert> maalo: could you post the exact message please?
[18:34] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, so when I try to make an image of a hdd which is 50Gb to a hdd which is 300Gb it will destroy the partition that I have there? I wanted to use only one of the partitions...
[18:34] <maalo> gsteinert: I'll try. It goes away so quick that barely can read it with my bad English. I'll come back in other moment with the complete message. :)
[18:35] <mafiaboy> on installing a package i get this "http://pastebin.com/76Eu5QfA"
[18:35] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: you'll have to check, but it may be possible to write to just one partition (specify /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda for example). but that is just a guess. i'd check the man pages fro confirmation before trying it
[18:36] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I already checked them but it's not that detailed. I will need to do some more research probably :)
[18:37] <gsteinert> the gddrescue website may help... look to see if they have a forum or irc channel
[18:38] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I am trying to find such a channel for days - no success
[18:38] <TheGentleman> Hello everyone. I'm new here.
[18:39] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: it all depends who developed it.. a one-man band has little use for irc, but a team will usually have at least a mailing list
[18:39] <gsteinert> hi TheGentleman
[18:40] <TheGentleman> Me and a friend are comp sci majors, and we would like to contribute to ubuntu as developers. We've read through some of the beginner's team wiki, but are still a little lost.
[18:40] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I was even unable to find an irc channel for rescuing data or whatever :(
[18:40] <DJones> !contribute | TheGentleman Hopefully something here will point you in the right direction,
[18:40] <TheGentleman> And to be honest, our skills are a little lacking. So we also look forward to building up our skills while contributing to the team.
[18:40] <fantaghiro> TheGentleman, I think it is great idea to contribute to this software, I like theat idea, but I m still new to software programming
[18:41] <TheGentleman> Thanks for the links guys :D
[18:41] <fantaghiro> :D
[18:41] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: irc channels usually spring up around specific pieces of software rather than general topics unfortunately =(
[18:41] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I see
[18:43] <fantaghiro> well, do they use some git or something to allow people to contribute to Ubuntu? interesting topic - this contributing
[18:43] <jimi_> how do i fix this? syntax error: unknown group 'postdrop' in statoverride file
[18:44] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, funny, I just found another website where they say the 'output' should be with the mount point. I am confused
[18:44] <cbg0> I've been playing with Ubuntu without installing it. If I choose now to perform the install will I lose any files on it?
[18:44] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[18:45] <gsteinert> cbg0: i depends, where have you been saving your files?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> cbg0,  You mean you have been using the live-cd session? from a cd? or usb?
[18:46] <crilly> Not sure why, but when I install the nVidia driver for my Ubuntu system, the resolution is all crap and blurry. I've tried creating an X11 config, but everything I re-run 'nvidia-settings' my monitor is always disabled in there. Not sure what is going on.
[18:47] <cbg0> I've been using it from a USB, I guess it's like a live CD thing, and I've put some files in /home/ubuntu
[18:48] <Dr_willis> cbg0,  if you do an Install.. it does not move any files over.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> nor will it install any extra apps you installed
[18:49] <gsteinert> cbg0: your best bet is to put the files you ahve onto an external drive or network location before you install
[18:49] <gsteinert> then compy them onto your new install once you are done
[18:49] <gsteinert> *copy
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu One account - is very handy ;)
[18:49] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, reading..
[18:50] <NewUser> so...installing Ubuntu in the VirtualBox will allow me to access Ubuntu; without re-booting my computer?
[18:50] <gsteinert> Dr_willis: i fear my ubuntu experience has been very much server-based lately. I haven't used a desktop version of linux in about a year now
[18:50] <ThinkT510> NewUser: indeed
[18:51] <gsteinert> NewUser: that's the idea... although it will have to share your resources with the host OS
[18:51] <gsteinert> NewUser: great for switching between, but not so good if you want to use linux as your primary OS
[18:51] <ougogo_> Hi all, how can I resolve this error : http://pastebin.com/e5zd90Jk  ?
[18:52] <anon__> Anybody remembers the project where they try to create an uncensorable Internet by connecting all wifi networks around the world?
[18:53] <ThinkT510> ougogo_: what are you trying to compile?
[18:53] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | ougogo_
[18:53] <zykotick9> anon__: freedombox is one such initiative
[18:53] <anon__> zykotick9, thx
[18:54] <ThinkT510> anon__: not sure about wifi. are you thinking of tor?
[18:54] <zykotick9> ThinkT510: "mesh" wireless networks... cool stuff really.
[18:54] <mevvis> anon__: remember idea, but not a name
[18:54] <anon__> ThinkT510, no. Not Tor. Creating an Interet that the government can not shut down. Wifi LAN routers make up the nodes.
[18:55] <TheGentleman> !Contribute
[18:55] <gsteinert> anon__: i remember reading something about it... mesh networking i think it is
[18:57] <ThinkT510> ougogo_: keep it in the channel please, others can see and help then
[18:59] <signornessuno> hi i need to convert a video and i want to use fs option to limit the file size to be sure a dvd is enough but i get a message that ffmeg expect a different file size, what should i do?
[19:00] <ougogo_> I try to install Avertv Volar HD pro : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491
[19:00] <ougogo_> I've make "checkinstall make" but now ? What should I do ?
[19:01] <zykotick9> ougogo_: do you have a DEB file where you ran checkinstall now?  if so, install it.
[19:02] <ougogo_> Noo DEB file ....
[19:02] <ougogo_> Some error : http://pastebin.com/e5zd90Jk
[19:03] <zykotick9> ougogo_: that's what checkinstall is suppose to do, create a DEB.  (FYI i don't go to pastebin.com, if you used paste.ubuntu.com i could see your pastes/links.
[19:04] <ougogo_> Error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207421/
[19:04] <ali_> exit
[19:04] <banished> Hi, I want to do a bisect according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection but I don't know where to get the debnian/ folder
[19:04] <signornessuno> any suggestion?
[19:06] <zykotick9> ougogo_: sorry, i haven't had to compile versions of v4l for a long time.  you're certainly getting some sort of build error, "cc1: some warnings being treated as errors" but i can't diagnose it, hopefully someone else has some better understanding.  best of luck.
[19:06] <ougogo_> Thank you.
[19:06] <anon__> Found it: Uncensorable Internet by wifi routers: https://code.commotionwireless.net/projects/commotion
[19:09] <leto_> whois ryan52
[19:09] <leto_> shit!
[19:11] <Froward> hey kids
[19:11] <chimney> heyo
[19:11] <chimney> extractig an iso got me ";1" suffixes on everything
[19:12] <Froward> in the file explorer (nautilus?) I have three headings, Devices, Bookmarks, Computer, and Network. Only the first two show up in an Open File dialog for chrome/firefox. How do I make Computer show up?
[19:12] <Froward> It has all my mappings for Pictures, Movies, etc
[19:13] <chimney> extractig an iso got me ";1" suffixes on everything, how do I get rid of it?
[19:13] <Froward> does my question even make sense
[19:13] <Froward> googlestumped
[19:14] <chimney> Froward: nope not for me
[19:14] <Froward> dang
[19:14] <Froward> chimney: you mean on the end of the filenames, right?
[19:15] <chimney> yup
[19:15] <zykotick9> Froward: option 1) bookmark what you are interested in.  option 2) don't rely on "computer", use mount points to access data - learn to mount things where you want them.
[19:15] <Froward> zykotick9: now that you say it, it's blatantly obvious
[19:15] <Froward> chimney: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1186621
[19:16] <chimney> zykotick9: ^^ shouldn't ubuntu mount everything in /media that is important?
[19:16] <Hofman> Hello!
[19:16] <zykotick9> chimney: /media is the vfs mount point yes.  i don't use automounting myself.
[19:16] <Hofman> Can I ask for support thehe?
[19:17] <gsteinert> Hofman: only if you don't ask to ask! =P
[19:17] <Hofman> my problem is with Neon programs
[19:17] <chimney> Froward: thx :)
[19:18] <Hofman> but I use kubuntu and KDE
[19:18] <chimney> zykotick9: where are the setting for the autmount rules?
[19:18] <chimney> zykotick9: pardon my writing, its cold here {o.o}~
[19:18] <zykotick9> chimney: not really sure.  udev/fstab/other_ugly_option.
[19:19] <chimney> zykotick9: thx
[19:19] <zykotick9> chimney: if you use Labels then the automounter will show whatever your "foo" label is like /media/foo handy
[19:19] <chimney> zykotick9: I like the automounting
[19:19] <Hofman> Neon updater and other Neon programs disappeared from my 'Start' menu
[19:20] <chimney> Hofman: if you give me $3M then you'll see them alive
[19:20] <zykotick9> chimney: i'm talking about automounting - automating will use whatever the label for the drive is (no relying on changing sdX# or having to use UUIDs)
[19:20] <Froward> I think it might be /etc/fstab
[19:20] <theadmin> Okay, need help. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, *without pulseaudio* (it breaks my sound), and I only get sound in headphones.
[19:21] <Froward> ubuntu shows two partitions on my drive but only mounts them when I use them.. I don't know where that setting is.
[19:21] <muelli> well. pulseaudio shouldn't break your sound and you should use pulseaudio, theadmin.
[19:21] <zykotick9> Froward: /etc/fstab is default mount stuff
[19:21] <theadmin> muelli: That is not an answer.
[19:22] <chimney> theadmin: ok, graphical sufface or cli?
[19:22] <muelli> well theadmin. Not using pulseaudio and then complaining is not right.
[19:22] <Froward> muelli: you're just being a whiny git right now ಠ_ಠ
[19:22] <theadmin> muelli: Okay, example: Someone asks why Flash doesn't work in Firefox, you tell them "Use Chrome, it works fine for me"
[19:22] <theadmin> muelli: Is that "right"?
[19:22] <chimney> muelli: alsa?
[19:23] <chimney> theadmin: alsa?
[19:23] <Hofman> it doesn't exist /etc/fstab . only /etc/fstab.d
[19:23] <Hofman> and it's empty
[19:23] <chimney> muelli: sorry
[19:23] <Froward> muelli: this is you: http://www.xkcdb.com/?5088
[19:23] <zykotick9> Hofman: what?  can someone confirm/deny - does ubuntu still use /etc/fstab for mounting?  OMG
[19:24] <muelli> nope theadmin. That's different. First and foremost because Flash is third pary proprietary software.
[19:24] <theadmin> chimney: Yes, plain ALSA, I have a KDE setup (pretty much default Kubuntu setup, but removed Pulse)
[19:25] <theadmin> muelli: Well, you're not helping either way, you shouldn't tell people what they "should" do.
[19:26] <chimney> does it works now?
[19:26] <theadmin> chimney: It appears that ALSA doesn't realise that I unplug the headphones.
[19:26] <muelli> theadmin: Well. If you remove pulseaudio, you remove a core dependency of "ubuntu-desktop". You can't really expect help for your custom setup.
[19:27] <theadmin> muelli: I don't use "ubuntu-desktop". I use "kubuntu-desktop". I know perfectly well that GNOME/Unity depend on Pulse. KDE, however, does not.
[19:27] <chimney> got this too, tried to change tha audio device in the clicky-menu?
[19:27] <chimney> change it twice and hope, could solve it
[19:27] <theadmin> chimney: Not sure what you mean by "clicky-menu", if you mean KMix I trieed
[19:28] <chimney> hm... muelli pulseaudio isnt a core thing, its alsa?
[19:28] <zal> /home/beheer/Desktop/polaris4/v4l/tuner-xc2028.c:1178:5: error: 'T_DIGITAL_TV' undeclared (first use in this function)
[19:28] <muelli> !kubuntu | theadmin
[19:29] <zal> im not a pupeteer
[19:29] <theadmin> muelli: I know what Kubuntu is. That factoid is useless.
[19:29] <gsteinert> theadmin: you did miss the part where it sid try #kubuntu for support
[19:29] <muelli> theadmin: fair enough. See the channel referenced there? They try to support those setups.
[19:31] <theadmin> muelli: True, I guess I can ask there. Sorry for being kinda rude.
[19:34] <theadmin> Found a potential problem... Will reboot and tell you the solution if this works
[19:34] <muelli> hihi. Installed pulseaudio? ;-)
[19:35] <xkill> i need help with networking. i already have some shares on a windows network and can access them just fine from the file manager, but when i am in an application trying to open or save a document i dont know how to open or save from a network location
[19:36] <gsteinert> xkill: when you access them through the file manager they should be mounted somewhere in the file system, most likely under the /media/ directory.. check there?
[19:37] <xkill> smb://monsterplatinum/Users    is the location i will be using most
[19:37] <xkill> thats all i know of where it is
[19:37] <muelli> xkill: it's somewhere in ~/.gvfs2 or so.
[19:38] <muelli> xkill: you check the output of "mount". Or pastebin it and we'll have a look together :)
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> [LYRICS]
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Open Condom Star
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Condom Star
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> [Verse 1]
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Imagine a dog sat on you Inga. Jogging yoga.
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Go pee on Johnnie. Yo, you are on a poop dog in a no job
[19:39] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <xkill> http://pastebin.com/RngmjWCB
[19:40] <muelli> xkill: your stuff will be in /home/xubuntu/.gvfs
[19:41] <Dr_willis> xkill,  gnome apps may be able to handle the smb:// type path. but the alternative mountpoint is in .gvfs
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> [LYRICS]
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Open Condom Star
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Condom Star
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> [Verse 1]
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Imagine a dog sat on you Inga. Jogging yoga.
[19:42] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Pessimist> Ubuntu software center just shows a blank window. How do I run it from the command line to troubleshoot?
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:45] <muelli> Pessimist: type software-center
[19:46] <bennyprofane> Hej could someone take a look at this and tell me what's wrong with it? http://pastebin.com/DvjTCM4i
[19:47] <Pessimist> http://pastebin.com/fqjG4yv1 here's what happens. The window doesn't even appear now. Should I fill a bug report?
[19:48] <bennyprofane> I'm trying to mount my Data partition in fstab with read/write access, without the need for a pwd. However, It's not working with this fstab. The partition is "LinuxData", /dev/sdb2
[19:48] <jeff_brad> Hi, newbie with GMA3150 problem, poor screen resolution, suggestions?
[19:49] <muelli> bennyprofane: hm. I wouldn't put "defaults" there. Are you sure it's a proper option? man mount will know.
[19:49] <bennyprofane> I think maybe I need to fix the options by inserting "rw", but I don't know if that means to cancel the "auto", and which is the proper syntax
[19:49] <bennyprofane> I actually have the man mount open
[19:50] <bennyprofane> but I'm a bit lost
[19:50] <eins11> you could try adding a ", user" behind defaults
[19:50] <bennyprofane> auto is an option suggested in U-help page for fstab
[19:50] <muelli> bennyprofane: auto,rw will work fine. Options are separated by a comma and no space.
[19:50] <eins11> but without the space i think
[19:51] <bennyprofane> muelli what about the seqeunce?
[19:51] <muelli> bennyprofane: doesn't matter :)
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[19:52] <Dr_willis> if its a ext2/3/4 filesystem - you dont just over ride the permissions and ownership on it with fstab options. You need to chown/chmod stuff as needed
[19:52] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:52] <bennyprofane> the man mount is difficult for me top understand because it contains shell commands, and I don't get how I'm supposed to use those in fstab
[19:53] <Dr_willis> fstab has a similer syntax to the mount command.
[19:53] <yeats> bennyprofane: you can do 'man fstab' too
[19:53] <Dr_willis> when in doubt ise the fstab entries as examples
[19:53] <muelli> bennyprofane: whatever you'd use with "-o" for mount, you'd put in the appropriate options column in your fstab.
[19:53] <Dr_willis> what filesystem is this 'data' partition?
[19:54] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis it's ext4
[19:54] <Dr_willis> then this applies ---->   if its a ext2/3/4 filesystem - you dont just over ride the permissions and ownership on it with fstab options. You need to chown/chmod stuff as needed
[19:54] <Dr_willis> rw option will not allow everyone access to it.
[19:54] <bennyprofane> what is chown/chmod ?
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> !chmod
[19:54] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:54] <Dr_willis> every file has an owner, group and permissions..
[19:55] <Dr_willis> ls -l filename    would show the info for a specific file
[19:55] <bennyprofane> well there is just me on this computer, no one else ever has access to it. So I'd like to arrange things to require as few pwd entries as possible
[19:56] <Dr_willis> then you set the files to be owned by your user.
[19:56] <bennyprofane> in fstab?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:57] <bennyprofane> I want to own the complete partition, if doable
[19:57] <Dr_willis> time to read that wiki page on permissions...
[19:57] <Dr_willis> you do NOT override the r/w/ownership via fstab options for ext2/3/4 or other fs's that can store the permissions.
[19:57] <bennyprofane> where is it? looking for it now
[19:57] <Dr_willis> at least ive never noticed a way to...
[19:57] <Dr_willis> the url has been posted  like 4 times in the last 20 lines..
[19:58] <bennyprofane> I don't see any URL, just this: !permissions
[19:58] <Dr_willis> and if you read what the bot says.....
 An explanation of what file permissions are and how they...............
[19:58] <bennyprofane> here i go
[19:58] <bennyprofane> got it
[19:59] <bennyprofane> sry
[20:01] <bennyprofane> however the problem has been appearing to me not as one of permissions, but of mounting partitions, bcs *if* that partition is mounted in fstab, I'm not asked for a pwd when trying to e.g. save a file there. This is how I got to approaching the problem via fstab
[20:01] <Dr_willis> if you make a fstab entry, it will get mounted at boot time
[20:01] <bennyprofane> ...and?
[20:01] <Dr_willis> if you accesss the disk  with no fstab entry. it mounts 'on the fly'
[20:02] <bennyprofane> ...but rquires a pwd first
[20:02] <Dr_willis> it dosent ask for a password to 'save' files there.. it would be on mounting the system mounting task needs the sudo rights..
[20:02] <Dr_willis> if its in the fstab then it would be mounted befor you even login
[20:02] <bennyprofane> I want to eliminate that. I just want unrestricted r/w access to that partition whenever I boot
[20:02] <Dr_willis> then you mount it.. and chown/chmod it to be owned by your user..
[20:03] <bennyprofane> *that=the need to be root/supply my pwd
[20:03] <Dr_willis> make a fstab entry, then chown/chmod the mountpoint and files to be owned by you.
[20:03] <Dr_willis> after its been mounted
[20:03] <bennyprofane> ok
[20:03] <bennyprofane> then first I need to get the fstab options right
[20:03] <Dr_willis> for ext4 'defaults' is most likely the only option you need.
[20:04] <bennyprofane> well that's how it's mounted right now
[20:04] <bennyprofane> so I only need to change permissions now...?
[20:05] <Dr_willis> You got it.
[20:05] <Dr_willis> ownership,  and perhaps permissions..
[20:05] <Dr_willis> mainly ownership.
[20:05] <rsser> why does ubutun support wpa & wpa2 personal criptography?
[20:05] <rsser> ubuntu*
[20:05] <rsser> why doesn't ubuntu support wpa & wpa2 personal criptography?*
[20:06] <kiyoura> cryptography *
[20:06] <bennyprofane> and how to is explained in that wiki page. got it. I hope this won't involve decrypting another man page. really the average man pages is not my friend
[20:06] <rsser> thank you, kiyoura
[20:06] <kiyoura> np
[20:06] <Dr_willis> !chown
[20:06] <Dr_willis> :0
[20:07] <Dr_willis> chowning/permissions is a rather fundamental thing. thats not to hard to understand.. but windows doswent really do  the same thing the same way.
[20:07] <rsser> bennyprofane, NO. I'm having trouble with wi-fi connection. And ubuntu doesn't support wpa & wpa2 connection here
[20:08] <Dr_willis> I think it can depend on thje hardware and drivers rsser
[20:08] <rsser> I can't connect to wifi network under wpa &  wpa2 cryptography
[20:08] <bennyprofane> rsser I didn't say anything to you
[20:08] <rsser> okay, bennyprofane
[20:09] <rsser> I have impression slightly different
[20:09] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  the thing to rember is you chown the mountpoint AFTER its mounted. :) that way you are changeing the owner of the 'root' of the filesystem.
[20:10] <Dr_willis> assuming you want that one user to have full access to the root of the drive.
[20:11] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis I'm not saying the subject is inaccessible, but man pages usually are. they're written by developers for developers, and not for the average user. I'm all about understanding how things work, but there is a limit to how deep you can/want to get into things on a non-professional level
[20:11] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  when they were written the average user WAS a programmer.
[20:11] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis yes that's what I want
[20:11] <bennyprofane> exactly
[20:12] <bennyprofane> sure there is a good reason for it
[20:12] <kiyoura> miss those days
[20:12] <Dr_willis> man pages syntax has been around for 30+ years.. many of the commands are identical to the way they were back then
[20:12] <Dr_willis> The idea of a 'os you learn as you go with out reading a manual' is a very recent 'idea'
[20:13] <bennyprofane> I'm just saying somedays awareness of that fact (the one I tried to explain) is small in the Linux world
[20:13] <bennyprofane> *sometimes
[20:13] <Dr_willis> of course 'exploreing your os'  to learn it.. is much harder when its a command line only os.  like back then.
[20:13]  * Dr_willis feels old.
[20:13] <kiyoura> your os isn't command-line only still? :x
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Get off my lawn you kids. ;)
[20:14] <bennyprofane> no person I know and who is not an It professional would be willing to venture as far into the mechanics of the OS as I am now
[20:14] <Dr_willis> dont make me get out my 9600 baud serial terminal.
[20:14] <bennyprofane> :-D
[20:14] <Dr_willis> I know quiet a few people that dig into the os deeper then this.. and they are not IT anythings...
[20:15] <rsser> how can I install the support wpa & wpa2 to ubuntu?
[20:15] <Dr_willis> its always good to learn the fundamentals and core of how things work..
[20:15] <bennyprofane> well we could start a discussion about whose acquaintances are more represamtive of the "average user"
[20:16] <Dr_willis> Middle aged factory workers here...
[20:16] <Dr_willis> many are grandfathers..
[20:16] <bennyprofane> cool
[20:16] <Dr_willis> eww.. im a Middle Aged Grandfather... Now you really make me feel old.
[20:16] <muelli> hihi
[20:17] <Dr_willis> whats harder to understand is how WIndows does these permissions and so forth..  ive looked into it and am still baffled at times.
[20:17] <bennyprofane> my dad used to work at IBM, sold the first washer-sized MBs of storage to russian companies. He says he was in development too for 2 years... but now he keeps failing to use windows with the most basic tasks
[20:17] <rsser> ?
[20:17] <rsser> ah tnc
[20:18] <bennyprofane> the point is, to use windows, there is no need to understand how it works
[20:18] <bennyprofane> the average user I'm sure doesn't care. they just want things to work
[20:18] <phyrexianslug> That's an old argument:  should you know how a car works to use it?
[20:18] <bennyprofane> I know it's old
[20:19] <phyrexianslug> if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere, and something trivial breaks:
[20:19] <bennyprofane> but there are people who drive cars and know a lot about how it works
[20:19] <bennyprofane> but I'd bet that a great lot more doesn't know all that much
[20:19] <mrFrog> I have a dedicated server, and I'd like to put a couple vps systems on there. I don't have real stringent requirements, just that I can give someone access (ssh or otherwise) to one vps with a dedicated ip, and that they can't touch/see the rest of the vps machines or server. Is lxc for this? Or openVZ? What options should I look into?
[20:20] <bennyprofane> also you don't need a driving license to use a PC
[20:20] <phyrexianslug> Because using a PC incorrectly is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to kill anyone.
[20:20] <bennyprofane> precisely
[20:20] <phyrexianslug> Not to say that it's impossible however.
[20:20] <bennyprofane> haha
[20:21] <rsser> good point, bennyprofane. Before to lead with computer, get a php in science of computer
[20:21] <rsser> blah
[20:21] <bennyprofane> right
[20:21] <muelli> oh no. He said the P word...
[20:21] <bennyprofane> P?
[20:21] <unless__> dD
[20:21]  * Dr_willis has seen people who fail to understand the basics of 'cars' put Diesle Fuel in their Car......
[20:22] <ubuntu579> hello
[20:22] <rsser> you should thank other people haven't know about computer than you do. It would be bored a lot if everyone know about computers
[20:22] <ubuntu579> can someone help>?
[20:22]  * Dr_willis has seen people who fail to understand the basics of 'PC's try to save a 400mb file to a floppy disk.
[20:22] <ubuntu579> live cd ubuntu tells Initramfs Unable to find a medium with a file system
[20:23] <bennyprofane> I think the comparison doesn't work well, as we sort of have established
[20:23] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  did you check/verify the md5sum of the iso file after you downloaded it? did you also burn at the slowest speed possible. and verify the cd afterwards?
[20:23] <rsser> from their needs, Dr_willis, make your bussiness and you will be the next Gates!
[20:23] <ubuntu579> initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:23] <ubuntu579> yes
[20:23] <Dr_willis> is this a server, desktop, or what iso image exactly you put on cd?
[20:24] <phyrexianslug> http://askubuntu.com/questions/15425/unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-error-when-installing
[20:24] <ubuntu579> Dr_willis:  im using it in a netbook. but no linux version works on my dualcore 64 bits computer
[20:24] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 did you download the 64bit iso?
[20:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  Hmm... i only use 64bit machines and 64bit Linux these days.. no issues on these 5 machines.
[20:24] <bennyprofane> hardly anymore
[20:25] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  this is a cd or a live-usb/flash drive?
[20:25] <bennyprofane> there are still those problems e,g, with printer drivers
[20:25] <bennyprofane> but shouldn't be in newest OSs
[20:25] <wubino> How can I forward a locally accessible port to be externally accessible?: i.e. 8900 is accessible by localhost but not externally eventhough the firewall permits it to be
[20:25] <Dr_willis> be sort of weird that printer 'drivers' would be 64bit or 32bit dependant. :)
[20:25] <bennyprofane> they are
[20:26] <Dr_willis> wubino,  you are behind a router?
[20:26] <ubuntu579> its a good cd. it works im using it at the moment, but its cd version. i tried with usb,,, same error. 64 and the 32 bit version of ubuntu 12
[20:26] <ubuntu579> Dr_willis:
[20:26] <wubino> yes I am, but I am doing this work on an EC2 instance
[20:26] <ubuntu579> its a good cd. it works im using it at the moment,  but its cd version. i tried with usb,,, same error. 64 and the 32 bit version of ubuntu 12
[20:26] <ubuntu579> :(
[20:27] <Dr_willis> ive had differnent machines not like specific cds  - due to wear/goofyness in the optical drives.
[20:27] <ubuntu579> i tried many other cds.. usb drives and linux versions.. cant install
[20:27] <Dr_willis> sounds like deeper issues with the hardware to me. if radically differnt disrtos fail to work.
[20:28] <Dr_willis> test with TinyCoreLinux - its only like 10-40mb in size.. and loads totally into ram at bootup.
[20:28] <Dr_willis> if that also fails.. well. It really would sound like some hardware flakeyness to me.
[20:29] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis you know the section about chown only talks about ownership of files. For ownership of volumes (seems the one relevant for me) it refers to the fstab page...
[20:29] <andreb> quesiton
[20:30] <andreb> whats teh differnece between : cp -r -p and rsync -avH
[20:30] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  if you chown the mountpoint of the fstab, then the root of the filesystem gets owned by whoever.
[20:30] <Dr_willis> 'everything in linux is a file' is a  old timers phrase. :) even directories are special files.
[20:31] <wubino> ok how do I forward a remote port to a localport?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> wubino,  it sounds like the ec2 providers are blocking it. but ive never touched an EC2 thing.
[20:32] <Dr_willis> whats listening to port 8900 anyway?
[20:32] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 did you look at this page? http://askubuntu.com/questions/15425/unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-error-when-installing  it seems to suggest you should check your BIOS settings
[20:33] <wubino> 8900 is just out of the way, its for http access to a psuedo command line
[20:33] <ubuntu579> cant fix "(
[20:35] <OerHeks> ubuntu579, did you try an other usb port?
[20:35] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis, in chown, would I need to use the path, as in e.g. /media/LinuxData, or rather loaction, as in /dev/sdb2?
[20:35] <JoshuaP> What chmod command do I use to let a user be able to view and edit a file or directory?
[20:35] <Dr_willis>  you chown the mount POINT after its mounted bennyprofane   so the path.
[20:35] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 do you know more or less what your BIOS is doing, Boot options, boot sequnce etc.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  or just make a directory on the filesystem and chown that and keep everything in it. :)
[20:37] <Dr_willis> thats how a home partition works.. each user has their own 'username' directory owned by them. they dont own the root of the filesystem
[20:37] <eamon> Does this video play in your browser? It works fine wen I download it but it won't play on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Downloading_pirated_films_is_stealing.ogg
[20:39] <aartist> How I can make installable USB stick  for ubuntu?
[20:39] <eamon> aartist unetbootin
[20:40] <Dr_willis> aartist,  the pendrivelinux website has numerous tools also.
[20:40] <Troy^> !usbinstall
[20:40] <aartist> Basically I like to install ubuntu in my friend's computer.., so that he can 1. try,  2. run from his computer.
[20:40] <eamon> unetbootin is what you want
[20:40] <Troy^> run from his computer? does it bite?
[20:41] <bennyprofane> the mount point is /media/LinuxData, ben is my user, so this should do it, right? ben@Ignaz-bodhi:/media$ sudo chown ben LinuxData
[20:41] <bennyprofane> properties tab still says owner is root though
[20:41] <JoshuaP> What chmod command do I use to let a user be able to view and edit a file or directory?
[20:41] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  i think you want ben:ben thedir
[20:41] <Dr_willis> then use ls -l to see
[20:42] <Troy^> JoshuaP: sudo chmod a+r
[20:42] <wubino> How can I make a portable Ubuntu USB stick that runs in windows?
[20:42] <eamon> JoseeAntonioR: sudo chmod 777
[20:42] <bennyprofane> I don't understand. could you give me the full command?
[20:42] <Troy^> eamon: 777 is never suggested
[20:42] <glady5> LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.15 for windows
[20:42] <Dr_willis> wubino,   you can make oen that boots into linux, but RUNNING in windows. you would need some virtual/vm/setup
[20:42] <aartist> Could some one please walk me in?
[20:43] <wubino> Dr_willis: Qemu
[20:43] <Troy^> JoshuaP: chmod 755 is usually sufficient
[20:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chown  bob:bob  /media/bobshome
[20:43] <Dr_willis> I think i got that right.
[20:43] <aartist> I am currently having ubuntu 12.04 and my friend will have windows Vista/7.
[20:43] <bennyprofane> 'thedir' means the full path? even if I'm already there in terminal?
[20:43] <Troy^> aarcane_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:43] <eamon> Troy^: 755 will only cover root
[20:44] <eamon> I mean JoshuaP
[20:44] <Troy^> eamon: well chown <uname>
[20:45] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/114625/how-to-change-ownership-for-an-external-hdd
[20:45] <Dr_willis> sudo chown -vR angstrem:angstrem /media/exthdd
[20:45] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis yay! it worked! thanks!
[20:45] <Dr_willis> but remeber this is not for vfat/ntfs
[20:45] <bennyprofane> awesome...
[20:45] <JoshuaP> eamon, what will let a user without sudo be able to read and write the file?
[20:46] <Dr_willis> when in doubt use the full path bennyprofane  :) just to be clear
[20:46] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis is permanent though? because that would be the whole point...
[20:46] <bennyprofane> *is it permanent
[20:46] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  the permissions are ON the fileysstem.. so yes.. its permemet
[20:46] <eamon> 777 will but it's insecure if your comy has many user accounts
[20:46] <bennyprofane> cool
[20:46] <eamon> JoshuaP
[20:46] <Dr_willis> if you moved that HD to a differnt linux box.. the ownerships would be the same.. and may  cause confusion  :)
[20:46] <eamon> *comp
[20:46] <Dr_willis> soyou would have to chown them to a useable user again
[20:48] <JoshuaP> eamon, Yes?
[20:48] <eamon>  777 will but it's insecure if your comy has many user accounts
[20:48] <eamon> *comp
[20:48] <JoshuaP> thanks
[20:49] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis will keep that in mind in case I decide to 1. dump this old PC and 2. re-use the HDD for an NAS I don't have yet - but In that case I'd wipe and reformat the HDD anyway, so this problem is unlikely I gues...
[20:50] <Dr_willis> for a NAS - they can have their own quirks. :)
[20:50] <Dr_willis> ive moved USB hds around from linux box to nas and so forth. and had to fix ownership on many an occasion.
[20:51] <bennyprofane> aartist you need 1. the ISO of your new Ubuntu, checksummed 2. a pendrive, wiped and formatted to FAT and 3. a tool for mounting the ISO to the pendrive. You have all these yet?
[20:52] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis this HDD is internal, don't intend to move it unless my pc goes down for good
[20:53] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: about what files in what directory are you asking?
[20:54] <JoshuaP> atheme files
[20:54] <JoshuaP> Like services db and the whole etc dir of etheme
[20:54] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[20:55] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: why should a normal user be able to write there?
[20:55] <guntbert_> !who | JoshuaP
[20:56] <Smackbook> i'm trying to write a script involving this "ping router | grep icmp_req | cut -d'=' -f4" to just get the latency, but it doesn't output anything, then i do "ping router -c10 | grep icmp_req | cut -d'=' -f4" and realize ping is only piping data out after it finishes, and so unlimited count never outputs.  am I doing something wrong ? why isn't ping piping realtime?  I could swear this was working the other day
[20:56] <JoshuaP> guntbert_, it's a user that I switched the directory over to and I'm tryingto give that user read/write privs for it
[20:58] <rgenito_> sadly, i am not enjoying ubuntu 12.04 on my ultrabook ;(
[20:58] <rgenito_> it is most likely my own fault! sooo i has a question
[20:58] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: if the directory and the files are owned by that user then 755 is completely sufficient (as some other process will need to read there...)
[20:59] <rgenito_> ALL i did on this ultrabook was change /etc/resolv.conf's "nameserver" address (because for the location i was at... the DNS information supplied by the wireless router was incorrect)
[20:59] <rgenito_> of course, that file is fine now since it is auto generated
[20:59] <rgenito_> however, my wireless access gets disconnected often. and then after about 2 minutes it reconnects. this is very bothersome
[20:59] <rgenito_> this happens on ALL wireless networks that i have been on (4 separate ones so far)
[20:59] <rgenito_> any ideas what's going on?
[21:00] <rgenito_> it's definitely a software issue, or at least it is hopefully NOT a physical hardware issue with this ultrabook :)
[21:00] <bennyprofane> :-(  Dr_willis! It's not working!
[21:00] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: sounds like the driver
[21:00] <bennyprofane> I forgot to explain what this was all about initially
[21:00] <bennyprofane> ...bcs I actually forgot it
[21:01] <bennyprofane> I need Dropbox to get access to that partition
[21:01] <bennyprofane> I want to place my Dropbox folder there, so it's gonna need r/w access
[21:02] <Troy^> is there a package that installs apache2, php5 and mysql? is it lamp-server?
[21:02] <ThinkT510> !lamp | Troy^
[21:04] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  your dropbox tools run as the user. so if the user has permissions then any apps they run should. UNLESS theres some limition in dropbox to not follow links, or mountpoints
[21:04] <Advocated> i assume, for a cronjob that shows: 0 20 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php  it means 8pm, 15th and 17th?  so if i wanted it to run at 11pm too, it'd be: 0 20,23 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php... ?
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  if the ownership/modes are the same as your users home then they should have same rights there as they do their own home. You could even Put their home on that new filesystem
[21:05] <bennyprofane> Dropbox says target folder is read only
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  or mount the filesystem to /home/yourusername/whatever
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  can you write to it in other ways?
[21:05] <astronaute> hello all
[21:05] <bennyprofane> yes
[21:05] <Dr_willis> so sounds like dropbox is confused. and may need to be restarted
[21:05] <bennyprofane> I can for instance create/rename files and folders in File manager
[21:06] <bennyprofane> it wasn't running
[21:06] <astronaute> can someone please tell me how to set env variable in ubuntu so it is available after reboot?
[21:06] <bennyprofane> *Dropbox I attempted to set it up after chwoning
[21:06] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  for a user, you can put it in their .bashrc or .profile
[21:07] <bennyprofane> maybe a reboot...?
[21:07] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  i dont use dropbox so no idea what its limits/or bugs may be
[21:07] <Dr_willis> I tend to use UbuntuOne
[21:07] <bennyprofane> I'll just reboot real quick
[21:07] <rgenito_> sooo, i wrote a message earlier about how my wifi kept disconnecting and reconnecting...
[21:07] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: sounds like the driver
[21:07] <rgenito_> did anyone happen to see that? :D (i got disconnected immediately)
[21:07] <rgenito_> ahhh
[21:08] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, so i believe all i can do is just run the package updater...and hope that works. right? ;(
[21:08] <Troy^> rgenito_: i prepose it is a realtek chipset
[21:08] <astronaute> Dr_willis do I put it in a block near PATH definition in .profile or else ?
[21:09] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: what wireless do you have?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  depends on the details. could go at the end of the file.
[21:09] <rgenito_> (hopefully these packages download before i get disconnected again...or else i'll have to uncheck many items in the updater before i continue...)
[21:09] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, i'm not sure...whatever wireless that came with this Vizio ultrabook
[21:09] <astronaute> Dr_willis it is for my rails development, unrelated to OS I just need it to be available from command line
[21:09] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: lspci
[21:10] <rgenito_> ah sweet, thanks ThinkT510  :) i'll pastie this
[21:10] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  .bashrc or .profile get read on each new shell launching.. i forget which.. i jump around to many versions/disrtos to be sure what ones the best. but  at the end of the bash init scripts should work fine
[21:11] <astronaute> Dr_willis /etc/environment maybe?
[21:11] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  that would be for ALL users.. which may be overkill
[21:11] <rgenito_> http://pastie.org/private/rwgyp3iazasu1lbetcfmeg
[21:11] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, i don't see anything relating to the wireless device on there
[21:11] <astronaute> Dr_willis I see, I'll play a bit with it, thank you
[21:12] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[21:12] <rgenito_> whoops,
[21:12] <rgenito_> missed that absolute last one :)
[21:12] <aartist> as
[21:12] <aartist> benonsoftware: I found pendrive, have iso. What is the mounting software?
[21:13] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53711/how-to-define-an-environment-variable-systemwide-with-etc-environment astronaute
[21:13] <rgenito_> i am noticing that after i force rebooted my machine... (unity hung) my wireless has been pretty stable...
[21:13] <rgenito_> usually it would disconnect by now
[21:13] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: what version is your kernel at? uname -a
[21:13] <aartist> How do I mount ubuntu iso on pen drive ?
[21:13] <xangua> !usb | aartist
[21:13] <rgenito_> i JUST got back into the linux world as a desktop system. i told myself it'd be a long time before i did that... not sure if linux is ready
[21:13] <rgenito_> ThinkT510,  3.2.0-23-generic
[21:14] <Dr_willis> aartist,  with some of the various tools - like unetbootin, or lili, or the ubuntu drive tool.. or some of the many at the pendrivelinux web site
[21:14] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: update, 3.2.0-30 is the latest
[21:14] <Advocated> i assume, for a cronjob that shows: 0 20 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php  it means 8pm, 15th and 17th?  so if i wanted it to run at 11pm too, it'd be: 0 20,23 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php... ?
[21:16] <aartist> I have unetbootin and have .iso image as well. What should be my next step to put installable linux on usb stick ?
[21:16] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, thanks :)
[21:16] <Dr_willis> aartist,  err... run unetbootin..
[21:16] <sticky1> Hello folks. Completely new to Ubuntu as it comes to MIDI. How do I make my XMIDI1x1 MIDI - USB adapter work with Xubuntu 12.04? I tried to figure out myself but it seemed aconnect was installed but gave me an error while listing MIDI devices
[21:16] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: no worries :)
[21:16] <rgenito_> btw, does anyone know of a unity key-shortcut to activate the "workspace switcher"?
[21:17] <Dr_willis> rgenito_,  press and hold the super key to see a UNITY key shortcut cheat sheet.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> Not on unity so i cant look at it here. ;)
[21:17] <rgenito_> "super" key?
[21:17] <Dr_willis> Top overlooked feature of unity
[21:17] <rgenito_> oooh
[21:17] <rgenito_> nice
[21:17] <rgenito_> i guessed "super" was windows/apple
[21:18] <Dr_willis> They really need to make a 'tip of the day' type thing :)
[21:18] <Dr_willis> way to many people never notice that feature
[21:18] <rgenito_> hehe
[21:18] <rgenito_> ya
[21:18] <sticky1> Does anyone of you work with MIDI in Ubuntu?
[21:18] <rgenito_> and that's pretty aweesome
[21:18] <codysmith> hey guys i need help
[21:18] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[21:18] <rgenito_> they should do what apple did: make a video showing off the features
[21:18] <rgenito_> ...and put it on their homepage
[21:18] <FloodBot1> rgenito_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <Dr_willis> super = cheat sheet. tap alt = the HUD,  the DASH is on.. err.. i forget.
[21:18] <rgenito_> HUD is pretty sweet. i like the name too ;)
[21:19] <Dr_willis> Youtube  has a lot of the examples/tips
[21:19] <codysmith> can someone help me
[21:19] <rgenito_> i wish there was a key combination to input a terminal command ;)
[21:19] <ThinkT510> Dr_willis: dash is super, hold super is the cheat cheat
[21:19] <ThinkT510> sheet
[21:19] <Dr_willis> rgenito_,  thats alt-f2 i thought
[21:19] <rgenito_> Dr_willis, of course, google search has a lot of stuff alone. i dont want the sea of crap on youtube and google tho
[21:19] <sticky1> Nvm, I will return when it's a bit less busy here
[21:19] <rgenito_> that's why it'd be a nice idea for ubuntu to help their community :) i cannot help cause i'm at a low unity level :D
[21:20] <Dr_willis> sticky1,  i find that not a lot of peopel work with midi at all these days.
[21:20] <sticky1> Dr_willis: why?
[21:20] <sticky1> I am a musician
[21:20] <Dr_willis> sticky1,  thres the Ubuntu-studio channels that may have more musicians
[21:20] <sticky1> ok
[21:20] <rgenito_> sticky1, yes, MIDI is still very very commonly used in the music industry. MIDI isn't going to die ... probably never.
[21:20] <sticky1> is there a channel for studio?
[21:20] <stercor> How can I keep the disk reformat from happening on Ubuntu installation?
[21:21] <sticky1> stercor: Advanced installation
[21:21] <sticky1> Dr_willis: is there a separate channel for Studio?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> !studio
[21:22] <stercor> sticky1: Thanks!  Back to the installation.
[21:22] <captainjacksparr> hi, the dist upgrade has reset my resolution settings, the desktop resolution is fine, xorg.conf already the right settings, but the login screen just doesn't cares... it has its own ways it seems.... you know where to set it?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> seems its #ubuntustudio ;)
[21:22] <sticky1> stercor: Np
[21:22] <astronaute> Dr_willis /etc/environment works like a charm, problem fixed! :)
[21:23] <Dr_willis> captainjacksparr,  theres a way i saw once to run the monitors config tool as the lightdm user to tweak it a little.. but i cant recall how to do it off hand.
[21:23] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  thats system wide also. for all users.
[21:23] <aartist> Dr_willis: yeh, I am running it..I have also copied .. the iso file to pen drive.. does that help ?
[21:24] <Dr_willis> aartist,  you do not just copy the .iso to the pendrive like you would a picture file...
[21:24] <Dr_willis> it wont be bootable.
[21:24] <astronaute> Dr_willis yes, thats fine it is a VM for local development
[21:24] <GCW2012> Anyone with knowledge about ITE IT6610 HDMI or Vivante GC860 GPU driver or code knowledge...
[21:25] <aartist> Dr_willis: unetbootin finished the proccess. that means, my pen drive is ready?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> aartist,  i would think so..
[21:25] <Dr_willis> boot it and see
[21:31] <faLUCE2> hi. How can I see how many usb controllers has my laptop? with lsusb I see 6 usb HUBs ....
[21:32] <TJ-> faLUCE2: "lspci -nn | grep USB"
[21:33] <faLUCE2> TJ-: I can see six controllers... does it mean that they are 6 indipendent usb channels?
[21:34] <Troy^> faLUCE2: right but there is different buses.. how many usb inputs do you have? the system may have extra used for things such as webcam etc.
[21:34] <faLUCE2> briefly: I need to connect two webcams to my pc. but they suck much usb bandwidth. I need to connect them both
[21:34] <TJ-> faLUCE2: A controller can have more than one port... and 2 controllers can share the same ports. E.g. an UHCI (USB1) and an EHCI (USB2) controller
[21:35] <L1> Any ideas why this simple bash script isn't working?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207735/    In the txt file I get "start    statusVar-    stop"
[21:35] <MrPopinjay> Heya, I have a problem
[21:35] <TJ-> faLUCE2: When controllers share ports, when you connect a USB2 device the EHCI will claim the port
[21:35] <pc> anyone whois me ?
[21:35] <Troy^> L1: #bash
[21:35] <faLUCE2> TJ-: ok, I have 4 ports.
[21:35] <muelli> L1: You can run with "bash -x" to get a debug like output. Helps me a lot during debugging bash scripts.
[21:36] <TJ-> L1: When you want to refer to the contents of a variable, you must prefix its name with the dollar symbol
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> I just installed 12.04, opened the software centre and attempted to log in. I put in my email and software centre password but the keyring pops up saying "the password you use to log in to your coputer no longer matches that of your login keyring"
[21:36] <L1> Troy^, muelli, thanks
[21:36] <faLUCE2> given that there are 6 controllers, does it mean that I can connect two webcams?
[21:36] <L1> TJ- I have, haven't I?
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> and then asks me for my password, I have no idea what password it wants. Neither the one for the software centre or for my login works.
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> Ideas?
[21:36] <Troy^> faLUCE2: you should be fine
[21:37] <faLUCE2> thnks
[21:37] <TJ-> L1: Sorry, I misread! Are you expecting to see the output from "service mysql status" ?
[21:38] <faLUCE2> ok, but how can I see to which port I have to connect the two cameras?
[21:38] <L1> Yes, I am... hang on. It just ran fine when I executed the script manually. I have cron triggering it every minute, and that's not working, but I just tried bash -x my_script.sh and the if statment evaluated correctly
[21:38] <L1> So I think it's a cron setup problem :) Thanks for your help
[21:39] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[21:39] <ThePendulum> Is it possible to hide a bunch of files with a certain extension using a .hidden file for Nautilus?
[21:39] <TJ-> L1: you need to set a shebang line as line 1 :  "#!/bin/bash"
[21:40] <L1> TJ- Thanks, I'll give that a go
[21:40] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  im not sure it has that feature any more.. they tried somthing like that ages ago.. and everyone hated it. ;)
[21:40] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[21:40] <Dr_willis> !hide
[21:40] <TJ-> L1: otherwise, unless you actually pass the script name to a shell command, the system doesn't know how to deal with it. You'll also need to make the script executable "chmod +x <filename>"
[21:40] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  with a file manager like 'mc' its doable.
[21:40] <ThePendulum> Dr_willis: Well, the .hidden file works, and I don't see how such functionality can possibly be hated
[21:40] <stercor> I'm installing 11.10 to upgrade to 12.10LTS.  Is 'Advanced Installation' available to 11.10?  If so, how do I get to it.  There's 'Expert mode' on the initial screen, but I can't seem to get it to 'take.' by pressing the correct key.
[21:41] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  you mean the use of a . at the start of a file?
[21:41] <ThePendulum> That's a bit impractical, there are a lot of files and I'm afraid that the media center (the device that created all those files) won't recognize them anymore with a '.'
[21:42] <Dr_willis>  .files are not really hidden.. its just a common practice for  apps to not display them by default unless they have a setting.
[21:42] <Dr_willis> set to show them
[21:43] <MrPopinjay> I just installed 12.04, opened the software centre and attempted to log in. I put in my email and software centre password but the keyring pops up saying "the password you use to log in to your coputer no longer matches that of your login keyring"
[21:43] <MrPopinjay> and then asks me for my password, I have no idea what password it wants. Neither the one for the software centre or for my login works.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> .files = any file with a . as the first character of the name. ;)
[21:44] <ThePendulum> Dr_willis: I know that, but you're still renaming the file which causes some applications/devices not to recognize it at all (for it only knows the filename without the .)
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> They'd have to be!
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> oh, well, I can't be excellent at /everything/.
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> you arn't excellent at anything
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> so...
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> what now?
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> Are you really this lonely? Get a dog or something.
[21:45] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <osmosis> any suggestions how I can get a newere version of 'revelation' in ubuntu precise. the include one is old and has a bug
[21:47] <Dr_willis> osmosis,  ppa's or backports, or source  are the common ways
[21:48] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[21:48] <L1> Allright, so still haven't got it working. When I run my script from the teminal (bash my_script.sh) it works fine (echos "statusVar- mysql stop/waiting"). However when cron is running it, the variable is not getting a value set. (echos "statusVar- ")
[21:49] <Dr_willis> instead of bash myscript.sh    you tried  making a #!/bin/bash  line at the start so it always uses bash?
[21:50] <L1> Dr_willis: Yep, I added that to line 1
[21:50] <Dr_willis> then if its executable, you shouldent need 'bash foo.sh'
[21:51] <L1> I think it might be something to do with path not being correct? E.g. the "service mysql status" isn't being found when run from crontab perhaps?
[21:51] <Dr_willis> when in doubt. use full paths
[21:51] <Dr_willis> or set thepath at the start of the script
[21:52] <TJ-> L1: Where precisely are you defining the task for cron?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> i dident think cron scripts/tasks normally printed messages...
[21:52] <L1> Dr_willis: thanks, I'll keep bash-ing away at it
[21:52] <L1> TJ- I'm doing "crontab -e"
[21:53] <TJ-> L1:  and does the user running the script have privileges to run 'service' ?
[21:53] <L1> Dr_willis, TJ- Working great now! Thanks for all you rhelp. I added "PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin" in my crontab right before this cron
[21:54] <TJ-> L1: when you run a script as a user the shell doesn't do a log-in unless you tell it too, so there's a very minimal environment, not including a PATH
[21:54] <L1> I see
[21:54] <L1> Good to know
[22:03] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[22:04] <matterbu1> x
[22:04] <eins11> hit f6 in boot menu and try nomodeset
[22:06] <domtron> eins11: are you refering to grub or bios, because grub is not installed yet
[22:07] <jack_> ciao
[22:08] <ghis> hi
[22:08] <eins11> i mean in the menu where you can choose install or try first...
[22:08] <jack_> ok
[22:10] <cortexman> I have a couple of Xine questions: 1) is there a keyboard shortcut for rewinding? 2) when I rewind with the gui it automatically starts playing, how do I stop this?
[22:11] <osmosis> where do I go to request a newer version of a package be made available?
[22:12] <krababbel> osmosis: you can file a bug for it
[22:12] <TJ-> osmosis: Usually file a bug against the package requesting sync with Debian
[22:14] <domtron> eins11: there was some red text that had a number in [] then said bad target number and now it's at the purple-ish red screen but there isn't any install window...
[22:16] <Randm> was network installing removed from ubuntu?  trying to do remote installs with cobbler.
[22:16] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to make this : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491   But when I type "./build" I've this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207811/     Any idea ?
[22:19] <Ecki> GN8
[22:22] <niadh> Can someone help with some finer details of setting up XBMC, I have the software autostarting, picking up my files and I can control it via my andriod phone, however for some reason it wont download addons or even be able to access the xbmc site, however another laptop on the same network CAN access the site.
[22:24] <niadh> I can't even get a list of available addons from within the XBMC application itself, I did have this working earlier this evening, but addons never appeared to install so after hosing my config and starting again I couldn't even access the website from firefox for some reason
[22:26] <macmartine> I'm trying to get postfix and dovecot running. I had it working, but I inadvertently unstapled some packages. This is the output of ehlo to my mail server: https://gist.github.com/3730109 -- where can i find more info on the bad syntax error?
[22:27] <jrib> macmartine: "unstapled"?
[22:27] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to make this : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491   But when I type "./build" I've this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207811/     Any idea ?
[22:27] <macmartine> jrib: heh, auto-correct. uninstalled
[22:27] <jrib> macmartine: unless you purged the packages, configs shouldn't have been removed
[22:28] <macmartine> jrib: ok, but i still can't figure out why it's not working now then
[22:29] <niadh> Any ideas why I can access the xbmc site on one machine but not the other? Both machines are on the same network and the machine that can't reach it can't ping it, but can reach any other site I try
[22:29] <jrib> macmartine: you may want to try the channels for the particular tool you are having trouble configuring
[22:30] <TJ-> macmartine: which kernel version are you building against?
[22:30] <urgodfather> hello room
[22:31] <macmartine> TJ- : 11.10
[22:31] <wade> Hello
[22:31] <urgodfather> can someone try to help me figure out why the system hangs on reboot
[22:31] <urgodfather> i have a clean install
[22:32] <TJ-> macmartine: The symbol "dev_dbg_ratelimited" wasn't added to the kernel until v3.5
[22:33] <wade> @urgodfather...may need to repartition and reinstall
[22:33] <macmartine> TJ-: Huh? Did I use that somewhere?
[22:33] <TJ-> macmartine: Look at the build log you pasted
[22:34] <trism> TJ-: ougogo ^^
[22:34] <macmartine> TJ-: I think you've got the wrong guy
[22:34] <urgodfather> wade, its a clean install with only 2 partitions... \ and swap
[22:34] <TJ-> macmartine: I apologise... I think my eyes mis-scanned!
[22:35] <TJ-> ougogo: : The symbol "dev_dbg_ratelimited" wasn't added to the kernel until v3.5. If you're going to build the latest linuxtv you need to build against a very recent kernel too, if not the current linux head
[22:36] <Dr_willis> failing to reboot could be some apci/power management issue.
[22:36] <TJ-> macmartine: For postfix. Check its 'recommends' and make sure they're installed
[22:36] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: any way to fix?
[22:37] <macmartine> TJ-: Ok, thanks. How do I do that? :/
[22:37] <wade> @urgodfather...fraid I wouldn't be much help at the advanced stuff. Can you get in debug mode?
[22:38] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  no idea. Its not going to be related to yoyu having just 2 partitions. but more of a chipset/bios related
[22:38] <urgodfather> wade: how to? never needed nor tried before
[22:39] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: if it matters any, i had a clean install of xp on earlier and did not have any issues
[22:39] <wade> @urgodfather...are you running a dual boot?
[22:39] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: leads me to believe software related vs hardware
[22:39] <gogeta> urgodfather: xp lol
[22:39] <urgodfather> wade: negative
[22:40] <TJ-> macmartine: You can check using "apt-cache show postfix | egrep '(Depends|Recommends|Suggests)'"
[22:40] <gogeta> urgodfather: what was the linux issue
[22:40] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  xp has the  the support of the HW makers to do things  just right. things the hw makers may not disclose to the Kernel devs
[22:40] <urgodfather> gogetta unfortunately samsungs ssd tool only works in winblows
[22:40] <TJ-> macmartine: When you got that 500 error... were you telnet-ing manually to the SMTP server?
[22:40] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  so its a matter of  apci bugs in the kernel because the bios makers love to make up their own standards..
[22:40] <gogeta> Dr_willis: like the latest atom prosser ibm whent windows happy with it
[22:40] <gogeta> Dr_willis: intel lol i said ibm
[22:40] <urgodfather> gogetta hangs on reboot
[22:41] <wade> @urgodfather...on mine it gives me a boot screen on startup but I'm set up on a dual boot
[22:41] <gogeta> urgodfather: lots of things can hang is it after it has done everything
[22:41] <TJ-> urgodfather: Reboot immediately after installing?
[22:42] <urgodfather> gogetta it hangs as it is kill modules
[22:42] <urgodfather> TJ-: same issue
[22:42] <urgodfather> had to hard reset
[22:42] <gogeta> urgodfather: even if something does not kill it should movw along it sound like apm isnt sending the reboot command to bios
[22:43] <TJ-> urgodfather: No, I meant... is this a hang immediately after installing, or does this happen after a regular system boot well after it was installed?
[22:43] <macmartine> TJ- yes
[22:43] <gogeta> urgodfather: relly if its that far along nothing bad should happond doing a hard reboot
[22:43] <urgodfather> TJ-:  cold boots fine... reboot hang.. havent tried normal shutdown
[22:44] <TJ-> macmartine: The 500 may have been your using the incorrect syntax. What precisely did you send it for the EHLO ?
[22:44] <Costeelation> hi guys, someone know the command for i know if my cpu support 64bits? thanks
[22:44] <macmartine> TJ- https://gist.github.com/3730186
[22:45] <urgodfather> gogeta: not concerned with doing hard reboot... im a pc tech.. i get new pc's all the time
[22:45] <macmartine> TJ- though the bad syntax message came after pressing enter
[22:45] <gogeta> Costeelation: any core serise does
[22:45] <TJ-> macmartine: I think that 500 error is caused by bad postfix config. You get a 250 for the EHLO
[22:45] <TJ-> macmartine: I'd be having postfix check the config
[22:45] <Costeelation> how?
[22:46] <davetarmac> hey guys
[22:46] <rgenito_> strange... since i updated ubuntu 12, now my trackpad isn't as responsive. when i "tap" the pad, it doesn't always register a click. of course, this is super annoying...any idea how i can get the default trackpad driver back for ubuntu?
[22:46] <rgenito_> or any other ideas?
[22:46] <davetarmac> I wonder if you can help, I've installed phpmyadmin (sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin) and run through the config for it, but when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin, I get a 404
[22:47] <urgodfather> Costeelation: uname -a
[22:47] <gogeta> Costeelation: tell us the prosser serise and we can tell you pretty quick
[22:47] <urgodfather> if its an atom you have 50/50 chance
[22:47] <sambagirl> anyone familiar here with novo builder?
[22:48] <Costeelation> gogeta: yes i know but i have a ubuntu 32bit  but i will want know if my cpu support 64bit
[22:48] <gogeta> urgodfather: n270 atom where not 64bit dispite what linux thinks
[22:48] <gogeta> Costeelation: tell us the cpu
[22:48] <urgodfather> really?
[22:48] <gogeta> urgodfather: later models where the dual cores etc
[22:48] <Costeelation> gogeta: i5
[22:49] <gogeta> Costeelation: yes its 64bit
[22:49] <Costeelation> gogeta: thanks so much :)
[22:49] <gogeta> Costeelation: all i serise are
[22:51] <rgenito_> what port does one use to connect via SSL on freenode?
[22:51] <urgodfather> gogeta the atom n450 is 64
[22:51] <DiscipleOfDante> Hello Can someone help me out? I am trying to run PlayOnLinux and everytime I start it I get a complaint "Missing 32-bit openGL libraries" I have an ATI card using the open source drivers.
[22:52] <TJ-> Costeelation: " grep  flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep -q lm && echo "CPU supports 64-bit"  "
[22:52] <gogeta> urgodfather: yep
[22:52] <gogeta> urgodfather: i said n270 was not
[22:52] <DiscipleOfDante> I know I need a package for it but I do not know what package it is in Ubuntu. Does anyone know what it is called in Ubuntu?
[22:53] <KorvinSzanto> is there something similar to gtkpod that doesn't crash under 12.04?
[22:53] <gogeta> urgodfather: first genration atoms not that there was mutch of a diffrence
[22:53] <KorvinSzanto> I'm trying to export an ipod 80g video
[22:53] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[22:54] <urgodfather> yep, thats what this has... 1st gen atom
[22:54] <TJ-> Spamicles: Examine /var/log/kern.log  for the time you suspend. It'll report any process or kernel module that couldn't suspend
[22:54] <urgodfather> brb gonna test normal shutdown function
[22:54] <gogeta> urgodfather: lol you got a eeepc 900a?
[22:54] <demonoid_com> hello to all
[22:55] <demonoid_com> i need know if i install ubuntu 10.04  and upadate
[22:55] <sambagirl> is there anything more curernt than novo builder?
[22:55] <demonoid_com> what kind of difference will have
[22:56] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com compared to what?
[22:56] <demonoid_com> with ubuntu 12.04?
[22:56] <Spamicles> TJ-, im not sure the last time i tried this. so maybe try to suspend now, cycle power, then look there?
[22:56] <demonoid_com> i like old gnome on ubuntu 10.04
[22:56] <TJ-> Spamicles: or, start a terminal and do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and watch carefully
[22:56] <demonoid_com> but the new ubuntu have gnome 3
[22:56] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com If i'm not completely wrong I think you can have the old one aswell in 12.04. Somoene confirm?
[22:57] <macmartine> TJ- actually things seem to be working. i just a test email. only thing now is that mac mail isn't connecting with the old settings. there must be some configs that need to be reset for dovecot?
[22:58] <demonoid_com> Cheapshot mmm haven't
[22:58] <rajnish> hello everybody
[22:59] <TJ-> macmartine: possibly - make sure the authentication is working. check the log files in /var/log/
[22:59] <rajnish> can anyone help me to setup a mailserver and deployment also
[22:59] <wyominggeezer> If an Ubuntu workstation (12.04 ver) is logged out, is it possible to log in remotely?
[22:59] <rajnish> thanks in advance
[22:59] <Dr_willis> demonoid_com,  you wont keep the old gnome.. if thats what you are trying to do.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> gnome2 is dead.. time to bury it. ;P
[23:00] <Cheapshot> wyominggeezer Do you mean a vnc connection or ssh?
[23:01] <faLUCE> hi. I'm pretty sure that the os mounts an usb 2.0 device as an usb 1.0 one. It's an usb camera. How can I check that, before trying to solve?
[23:01] <urgodfather> gogeta, Dr_willis, system shuts down fine and boots back fine... seems to just be a hang on the reboot command
[23:01] <Cheapshot> wyominggeezer You can always login with ssh remotely if its enabled
[23:01] <Led_Zeppelin> not sure if anyone notices but recently chrome has been getting slower and slower.
[23:01] <urgodfather> Led_Zeppelin: how so?
[23:01] <Led_Zeppelin> urgodfather, like. its something at 100% just freezes.
[23:02] <wyominggeezer> I've tried both vnc and ssh and both report server not found until I log into the workstation locally. After that, my other system can find it.
[23:02] <Spamicles> TJ-, ok thanks im going to try it out
[23:02] <demonoid_com> Dr_willis:yes i wont keep the old gnome :)
[23:02] <urgodfather> Led_Zeppelin: never had that problem and i install chrome on 5-10 systems per day
[23:02] <rajnish> please help me to setup mail server
[23:02] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: is it configured with networking connections for all-users, or per-user?
[23:03] <wyominggeezer> TJ: where do I look for that?
[23:03] <TJ-> rajnish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[23:04] <urgodfather> hey whats the channel for freenode support
[23:04] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: As you mentioned VNC that implies you're using the GUI to log-in. When logged-in, the Network Manager applet configures the network connections. For each connection there's a tick-box to enable a connection for "All users" - if that wasn't ticked, I can imagine once you log-out that networking wouldn't be available and thus no remote connections
[23:05] <davetarmac> Anyone know how to get phpmyadmin working on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:05] <urgodfather> nevermind i got it
[23:05] <davetarmac> Done apt-get install and that seemed to work, but can't reach it at localhost/phpmyadmin in a browser
[23:05] <KorvinSzanto>  /join #gtkpod
[23:05] <davetarmac> just receiving a 404 then
[23:06] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com Not sure if you've tried but you can always use the classic gnome on the 12.04 not the unify, not the same as gnome 2.0 but its something
[23:06] <TJ-> davetarmac: I would imagine you might also need to ensure apache2 has it in its /sites-enabled/ directory
[23:06] <davetarmac> TJ-: thanks
[23:06] <KorvinSzanto> Is there any fix for gtkpod on 12.04?
[23:06] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: demonoid is down
[23:07] <davetarmac> TJ-: how do I find that? :)
[23:07] <Cheapshot> urgodfather ah.. I just turned off the j/ part messages :D
[23:07] <TJ-> davetarmac: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[23:07] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: my bad i see demonoid_com is a user
[23:07] <urgodfather> lol
[23:08] <wyominggeezer> TJ: I checked and "Available to all users" is checked
[23:08] <davetarmac> TJ-: all I have in there is 000-default
[23:08] <Cheapshot> urgodfather Well that makes sense since I tabbed his nick :) was wondering how it could have happened
[23:08] <TJ-> davetarmac: I'm assuming you configured it to work with apache2 during installation?
[23:08] <davetarmac> TJ-: I never got the prompt
[23:09] <davetarmac> TJ-: Is there a way to remove it fully and start over?
[23:09] <shihan> from memory a few days ago, phpmyadmin doesnt actually use the sites-enabled mechanism iirc
[23:09] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: OK, that sounds like that may not be the issue. Next thing - to ensure there is a network connection - is to start a 'ping <hostname>' to the server from one of your other PCs, then log-out of the server and see if the ping dies. If it does, you know there's a network issue with it disconnecting
[23:10] <TJ-> davetarmac: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low phpmyadmin"
[23:10] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: yeah, unfortunately the site is down... dunno if you were aware... but anonymous swore revenge for it
[23:11] <davetarmac> ahh - shiny screens :)
[23:11] <TJ-> davetarmac: something useful happening?
[23:12] <davetarmac> TJ-: seems to be
[23:12] <TJ-> davetarmac: good
[23:12] <davetarmac> Do I want to use unix socket or tcp/ip for the conection method?
[23:13] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, I logged out the remote machine and then did PING from my desk to the remote machine. PINGS OK
[23:13] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: so you have network. Are you trying to connect remotely using VNC to the GUI?
[23:13] <wyominggeezer> TJ: yes
[23:14] <Spamicles> TJ-, so i tried suspending without closing the lid using a pm-suspend, but the computer wakes back up. this is the tail of my kern.log if you don't mind helping me figure out what it means: http://pastebin.com/aEzcWjvr
[23:14] <davetarmac> TJ-: gone through all that, set it all up and it's still returning a 404 page :(
[23:14] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: I've not used VNC in ages (I use SSH) but I do recall in some configurations logging-out would cause the vnc daemon to close if it was started per-user... someone else might be able to help you narrow that down. I'd start by checking the logs in /var/log/ .... maybe syslog and auth.log
[23:14] <Randm> is there a way of doing network installs with ubuntu and cobbler?  I did cobbler import on the image, but the installer is saying the cdrom could not be found (makes sense), but doesn't prompt me for any networking setup so I could do a http/whatever based install.
[23:15] <TJ-> davetarmac: How are you accessing the web-page? from a different PC or the same one that is running apache2?
[23:15] <davetarmac> TJ-: same PC
[23:15] <Cheapshot> TJ- WOuldnt you need a script to start the vnc daemon automatically during bootup?
[23:16] <sevenforall> I've tried Ubuntu on a dozen PCs and several completely different self-built PCs, but everything keeps working just fine. I looked it up on the internet and I'm supposed to get a lot of compatability issues and agonizing UI elements. What am I doing wrong?
[23:16] <KorvinSzanto> how can I clear the settings from gtkpod?
[23:16] <TeslaTony> I'm trying to add a PGP key for an Apt repository via command line, and no matter what I seem to try, it doesn't work. Any help?
[23:16] <davetarmac> I know apache2 is running because I am accessing a Symfony config locally and that is all php and what-not
[23:17] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, I'll sniff around. When I have tried SSH, even when the remote machine is logged in, all I get is an error telling me the connection was closed. Never has worked on that box BUT, I think, it worked on another box. So, I may have something not setup correctly.
[23:17] <TJ-> Cheapshot: I assumed it starts as a system service like everything else - does it not do that?
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> davetarmac, that doesn't mean that apache is running
[23:17] <DiscipleOfDante> Anyone?
[23:17] <Cheapshot> As i remember from the days using vnc connection, i would have to first connect via ssh and start the x11vnc before I could login
[23:17] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: For ssh you must install the server "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> davetarmac, run sudo service apache2 status
[23:17] <ben1u> hello, if I want to stop mount new usb sticks than I should stop udev with "service udev stop" or?
[23:17] <wyominggeezer> TJ: Install on the remote box?
[23:17] <davetarmac> KorvinSzanto: Apache2 is running
[23:18] <KorvinSzanto> how can I clear the settings from gtkpod?
[23:18] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: on the 'server' - the one you want to log-in to
[23:19] <simo_n> hi, i have been trying install some drivers and its seems i ruined my wireless driver, how i can the reset the wireless driver setting to the default ?
[23:19] <TJ-> ben1u: No!! You should add an exception rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/
[23:19] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, will try that. Sound of me going down the basement to relog in to the *$&^# machine. TNK for your help. At least I have something to try.
[23:20] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: hehehe good luck
[23:20] <wyominggeezer> TJ: Also, will make a pit stop at the bar for another Jack Daniel's Single Barrel. That is a requirement of mine if I have to work on software stuff.
[23:21] <davetarmac> all I'm trying to use phpmyadmin for is to create a user and database in mysql
[23:21] <ben1u> TJ-: but if I want do it temporary for read-only mount than I can stop the udev service or?
[23:21] <davetarmac> and the command line one won't let me
[23:21] <Randm> ah, had to use mini.iso to do this.
[23:21] <Randm> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Import
[23:22] <davetarmac> says Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'dbname'
[23:22] <davetarmac> so obviously I need to change the user to one who can create the db
[23:22] <urgodfather> does anyone use konversation?
[23:22] <thomasross> \slap _Brian
[23:25]  * thomasross slaps _DanN around a bit with a large trout
[23:26] <Cheapshot> 3minutes to find the / :)
[23:26] <AndChat160881> Hi there.
[23:27] <ben1u> I want to prevent automatically mount of USB Device for later ro mount. What should I do?
[23:28]  * thomasross tortures Dwith a suspicious iron bar
[23:28] <Manas> hello
[23:28]  * thomasross hurts awith a medium sized axe
[23:28] <hfic> ben1u, why dont u just edit your etc/fstab to mount the device now by UUID and set the mounting to ro
[23:28] <ben1u> I want restore files with extundelete.
[23:29] <OerHeks> !ot | thomasross
[23:30] <ben1u> hfic: this Device is not listed in fstab.
[23:30] <hfic> ben1u, . ...so list it
[23:30] <Manas> hey guys... an off-topic question... can anyone suggest me a good book for database... and also a good website which contains lots of free ebooks... :D
[23:30] <hfic> Manas, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <Manas> alright
[23:31] <Manas> thanku
[23:31] <wyominggeezer> yes
[23:32] <DiscipleOfDante> Does anyone know an IRC that might be able to help me then?
[23:32] <DiscipleOfDante> Since no one seems to know the answer?
[23:32] <ben1u> but I need to know the UUID and when I put the USB Device than will be automatically mounted. I want to prevent this. hfic
[23:32] <Cheapshot> wyominggeezer Your quest was successfull?
[23:33] <Cheapshot> DiscipleOfDante what was your initial question?
[23:34] <DiscipleOfDante> What package I would install for 32-bit OpenGL libraries on my 64-bit install.
[23:34] <DiscipleOfDante> For PlayOnLinux
[23:34] <stercor> What id the dd command to put a downloaded .iso to a CD-ROM?
[23:34] <DiscipleOfDante> It keeps complaining about the missing libraries and it is messing up my games
[23:34] <hfic> ben1u, you have to put the device in to be able to block it from mounting in the first place. So why not just put it in, run sudo blkid and edit your etc/fstab like UUID=<uu> /mount/point ans specify ro instead of rw
[23:34] <DiscipleOfDante> I know what the package is in Arch and Chakra but not in Ubuntu
[23:34] <Spamicles> Can anyone help with my suspend issue? I'll suspend my system with a pm-suspend and it wakes up immediately. Here is the excerpt from my kern.log: http://pastebin.com/WTdS9kWq . Thank you!
[23:35] <wrapids> I'm trying to get ubuntu installed ona laptop with nvidia gfx that is just giving me this broken pixelated screen when it tries to boot from usb
[23:35] <wrapids> Any ideas?
[23:36] <Manas> wrapids, u may want to recreate the bootbale drive
[23:36] <AndChat160881> Run live CD and install female it.
[23:36] <wrapids> Manas: I have, no go.
[23:36] <wrapids> AndChat160881: female it?
[23:37] <AndChat160881> I mean female the live CD;)
[23:37] <Cheapshot> wrapids Use the alternative iso
[23:37] <wrapids> wubi does the same thing also
[23:37] <daviwys> quit
[23:38] <AndChat160881> Frm not female ;)
[23:38] <Cheapshot> DiscipleOfDante Maybe on some wine channel people could help
[23:38] <wrapids> AndChat160881: still lost. frm?
[23:38] <DiscipleOfDante> I tried PlayOnLinux but they couldn't. I will try WINE
[23:39] <Manas> wrapids, that's weird... can u see anything on the screen?
[23:39] <AndChat160881> I mean from the live CD;)
[23:39] <DiscipleOfDante> If I showed you the homepage for the package could you tell me what it is titled in the *buntu repositories?
[23:39] <Manas> wrapids, are u using pendrivelinux for creating the bootable usb?
[23:39] <Cheapshot> wrapids download the ubuntu-alternative.iso and use it to install, you dont live boot at all from it
[23:40] <DiscipleOfDante> http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/
[23:40] <Cheapshot> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[23:40] <Guest19601> ?
[23:40] <Guest19601> Q
[23:41] <AndChat160881> Can it display well on live CD?
[23:41] <DiscipleOfDante> Oh Cheapshot the WINE irc will not help me because this counts as a PlayOnLinux issue, even though it affects WINE too, since I do not know how I would find out about this with WINE I would have to mention PlayOnLinux and then they would tell me to go do bad things to myself
[23:43] <Cheapshot> DiscipleOfDante Then you might use some forum for help, try the ubuntu forums and game section
[23:43] <DiscipleOfDante> I checked the Ubuntu forums but all I found was for NVIDIA cards, and since I am not using Ubuntu itself but a distro based on Ubuntu it wouldn't feel right making an account for the Ubuntu forums
[23:44] <IdleOne> but asking in an Ubuntu channel felt right?
[23:44] <IdleOne> DiscipleOfDante: try the channel for the distro you are using
[23:44] <DiscipleOfDante> I did
[23:45] <DiscipleOfDante> Like 3 days ago all day and all day every day since
[23:45] <DiscipleOfDante> I still am
[23:45] <IdleOne> DiscipleOfDante: Well this channel is for Ubuntu support, not other distros and NOT for taking cheap shots / complaining.
[23:45] <Cheapshot> DiscipleOfDante I'd go and made a new topic on ubuntu forums
[23:46] <DiscipleOfDante> IdleOne:  Well I was asking for help, not taking cheap shots or complaining so I think I was in the right place, and since the distribution still uses Ubuntu repositories I would figure this would be the place to go above anywhere else
[23:47] <IdleOne> DiscipleOfDante: What distro exactly?
[23:47] <DiscipleOfDante> Cheapshot: Thanks I will try my distribution's forums first and if I have no luck I will try the Ubuntu forum. Thanks for the help though
[23:47] <DiscipleOfDante> IdleOne: Bodhi.
[23:48] <Raheem> Anyone here interested in making sketches for an upcoming game???
[23:48] <szal> !ot | Raheem
[23:48] <hfic> pwned
[23:49] <Cheapshot> The problem with smaller distributions is that eventually you have to go for other sources for help, on a specific problems
[23:50] <AndChat160881> @DisciplineOfDante  there are VGA boot options. b4u begin installation ! Hopefully one can work with u r graphics.
[23:50] <shaladore> how to i get my network managed under ubuntu server 12.04.1
[23:50] <shaladore> sorry kinda new still
[23:50] <szal> AndChat160881: proper English please
[23:51] <Cheapshot> shaladore Be a little more specific please
[23:52] <shaladore> Well when I click on the inet icon it  says that my network isn't managed even tho I can connect and all that.. just curious if I forgot to install something when i installed xwindows. running unity desktop and sometimes gnome.
[23:52] <urgodfather> does anyone use konversation for irc client?
[23:52] <AndChat160881> Hi szal Don mind so long as point gets home :)
[23:53] <Cheapshot> shaladore Do you have network-manager installed?
[23:53] <shaladore> that is a mighty good question i didn't watch when it installed xwindows so maybe not.
[23:54] <Cheapshot> shaladore sudo apt-get install network-manager
[23:54] <hfic> !ask | urgodfather
[23:55] <shaladore> says it is already installed
[23:55] <urgodfather> hfic... i never did
[23:55] <Cheapshot> shaladore and I think you need also : sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[23:55] <hfic> urgodfather, I must be the only person in this channel that seen <urgodfather> does anyone use konversation for irc client? .... huh
[23:55] <shaladore> cheapshot: says both are installed.
[23:56] <urgodfather> hfic, i never "asked to ask a question"
[23:56] <AndChat160881> Goodnight people :)
[23:56] <urgodfather> !patience | hfic
[23:57] <hfic> urgodfather, .. Your clearly not intelligent enough to understand the context in which the comment is made. I will go back too scripting now.
[23:57] <szal> !anyone | urgodfather <- hfic: that would have been more fitting
[23:58] <urgodfather> szal did i ever occur that maybe that a preliminary question would be in order that way you can get adequate support from someone who uses/ is experience in that area?
[23:58] <urgodfather> it*
[23:59] <szal> urgodfather: it's mostly superfluous.. ask your support question, and if someone knows an answer you will get on
[23:59] <szal> e
[23:59] <Cheapshot> shaladore You cant chance any settings from the network manager?