| drupin | I want to install the OS what i should keep the partition sizes on 8GB flash drive | 00:52 |
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| ailo | drupin: Not sure what you mean.. | 01:01 |
| ailo | Are you asking about minimum partition size? | 01:01 |
| ailo | 8GB will work, but you may quickly run out of space, if you add stuff | 01:02 |
| drupin | to install on 8Gb flash | 01:02 |
| ailo | 8GB is fine, for default install | 01:02 |
| ailo | I have a 8GB USB stick, I use. 1GB is for SWAP, but you may not need it. I did run out of space, but I was installing a lot of things | 01:03 |
| ailo | I actually used the LXDE desktop, since the machine I was using was very old | 01:04 |
| ailo | But, I guess, there's not that much difference when using XFCE | 01:05 |
| drupin | ohhh | 01:05 |
| drupin | swap=ram in comp | 01:05 |
| ailo | drupin: SWAP is not a must. You can turn swap off, even | 01:05 |
| ailo | /etc/sysctl.conf | 01:06 |
| ailo | wm.swappiness = 0 | 01:06 |
| ailo | Probably, no need to set, if there's no swap partition | 01:07 |
| drupin | actually my studio freezez | 01:09 |
| drupin | i have 1 GB swap | 01:09 |
| drupin | i reduced it to 476 | 01:10 |
| ailo | drupin: You need at least 1 GB RAM, preferably 2GB | 01:10 |
| ailo | With LXDE, I can cope with 1GB | 01:10 |
| ailo | Firefox uses a lot | 01:11 |
| drupin | system ram is 2.5 GB | 01:11 |
| drupin | i use chrome | 01:11 |
| ailo | chrome, same story | 01:11 |
| Unit193 | Chrome may need a tad more. | 01:11 |
| ailo | drupin: when does your system freeze | 01:11 |
| ailo | ? | 01:11 |
| ailo | Mine freezes more or less when I install software. Haven't yet checked variables, so I have no idea why this happens. Never happened on any other machine | 01:12 |
| drupin | after a lot of loading means chrome with 10 tabs two terminals and and two file explorers | 01:12 |
| ailo | drupin: Sounds like you use up the RAM then | 01:13 |
| ailo | drupin: Did you check RAM usage? | 01:13 |
| drupin | un #ubuntu they told me swap should be equal to the ram | 01:13 |
| drupin | no | 01:13 |
| ailo | SWAP can be double the RAM, but it doesn't really matter | 01:13 |
| ailo | If you have enough RAM, you don't need SWAP | 01:14 |
| ailo | However, I actually have never worked with 0 swap | 01:14 |
| ailo | Should try it | 01:14 |
| ailo | drupin: When you run out of RAM, swap starts to be used a lot. And that makes everything really slow | 01:15 |
| drupin | how like 2.5G ram is low | 01:15 |
| drupin | some time it was freez even without apps | 01:16 |
| ailo | drupin: Well, on modern web browsers, if you use them for a long time, it's not much | 01:16 |
| drupin | i was on call with skype | 01:16 |
| ailo | drupin: When you say freeze, what exactly do you mean? Slow, or full stop? | 01:17 |
| drupin | stop completely.. | 01:17 |
| ailo | drupin: And you are forced to reboot? | 01:18 |
| ailo | drupin: System freeze is not happening because of the partition size, anyway | 01:19 |
| drupin | yes i need hit reset on cpu | 01:19 |
| ailo | drupin: System freeze can be caused by many things. Faulty RAM, bad graphic drivers, or other bugs | 01:20 |
| ailo | It's not because of hard disk space, anyway | 01:20 |
| ailo | Not like Windows, in that respext | 01:20 |
| drupin | ya graphic driver is default | 01:21 |
| drupin | i tried to install the ATI cataylist but it failed to install | 01:21 |
| ailo | Well, I don't think Windows freezes completely, either, but LXDE at least does not get slow | 01:21 |
| drupin | check pm | 01:21 |
| ailo | drupin: I'd rather you continue here :) | 01:22 |
| ailo | drupin: Use paste.ubuntu.com | 01:22 |
| drupin | can you see if i need to change any thing on the file size structure | 01:22 |
| drupin | only the paste | 01:22 |
| drupin | ya | 01:22 |
| ailo | drupin: Again, I don't think it's because of hard disk space. | 01:24 |
| ailo | It's very hard to know why, for me, at least | 01:24 |
| drupin | u means the size of flash | 01:24 |
| ailo | drupin: Maybe you can find the answer in system logs | 01:24 |
| ailo | drupin: I would ask on other channels to find more info, like #ubuntu. It's something not specific to Ubuntu Studio, anyway | 01:25 |
| drupin | where | 01:25 |
| ailo | There's /var/log&syslog | 01:25 |
| ailo | /var/log/syslog* | 01:25 |
| drupin | ya they told me to run mem test in recovery | 01:26 |
| drupin | will do this now | 01:26 |
| ailo | That's to find out if the RAM is faulty or not | 01:26 |
| drupin | let me check logs | 01:26 |
| drupin | ok | 01:26 |
| ailo | drupin: Another way to check RAM is to take one out, and see how things go. | 01:26 |
| drupin | is there any way i can remove the swap and merge in main partition | 01:27 |
| ailo | Never tried that, but maybe? Again, not our experise | 01:27 |
| drupin | right | 01:27 |
| drupin | ok | 01:27 |
| ailo | drupin: I don't think you need to, unless you really need the space | 01:50 |
| ailo | Cause, again, I don't think the hard disk space has anything to do with the system freeze | 01:50 |
| drupin | ok | 01:50 |
| ailo | System freeze is usually either a grave system bug, faulty RAM, or something bad with the graphic card | 01:51 |
| ailo | Not hard disk space | 01:51 |
| drupin | ok | 01:52 |
| drupin | let me see the log | 01:52 |
| ailo | Reading the backscroll, just wanted to clarify that looking at /var/log/syslog was not a way to find out about faulty RAM, while doing a memory test would be | 01:54 |
| drupin | some where EISA: Cannot allocate resource for mainboard | 01:55 |
| ailo | I think if the system freeze is really critical, there may be no valuable syslog | 01:55 |
| drupin | ok | 01:55 |
| ailo | drupin: That did sound like a clue, but I wouldn't know | 01:56 |
| drupin | right | 01:56 |
| drupin | is i safe to post sys log in public | 01:56 |
| ailo | I'm not an expert in network security by any means, but I would say as long as you don't post passwords you're pretty safe. There's also ip adress and username, but those are usually a bit harder to keep secret | 01:58 |
| ailo | Especially IP adress | 01:59 |
| ailo | drupin: I can't decipher most of that anyway, but you only need to post whatever happened just before the crash | 02:01 |
| ailo | And there are other logs you can look into as well | 02:01 |
| ailo | Like xorg, or whatever. I can't really tell you | 02:02 |
| drupin | right | 02:02 |
| drupin | check this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ&hd=1 | 02:12 |
| drupin | i want to do some real work on studio | 02:12 |
| drupin | if it gets working | 02:12 |
| ailo | drupin: Blender? | 02:13 |
| drupin | yes | 02:14 |
| ailo | Ah, I saw that in the text under it | 02:14 |
| ailo | Pretty cool | 02:14 |
| drupin | you do any of the stuff | 02:14 |
| drupin | go to sintel.org | 02:14 |
| ailo | Mostly audio. I've been very interested in 3d, games and such, and I've done a bit of that, but nothing worth mentioning | 02:15 |
| ailo | If I know anything, it's music | 02:15 |
| drupin | yes the ardour studio | 02:15 |
| drupin | try it its amazing | 02:15 |
| drupin | so many kool apps to learn and create music | 02:16 |
| ailo | Well, I don't acutally use Ardour so much | 02:16 |
| ailo | Or any of the sequencers | 02:16 |
| ailo | I used to use Cubase a lot, on Windows | 02:16 |
| ailo | Recently, I've mostly been using puredata | 02:16 |
| ailo | Which is also great for video | 02:16 |
| ailo | I use Ardour mostly, out of the sequencer | 02:17 |
| ailo | drupin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuJkE789ag | 02:18 |
| ailo | I'm not as crazy as him | 02:19 |
| drupin | ok | 02:20 |
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| sticky1 | Hello folks. It may sound stupid, but I'm a total noob when it comes to MIDI in Xubuntu... but how do I get my XMIDI1x1 to work with Xubuntu? | 21:23 |
| sticky1 | I have some apps in Wine that need dat MIDI | 21:23 |
| sticky1 | It is 37 minutes later and still no reply... | 22:01 |
| len-dt | sticky1, you may have to wait longer than that. | 22:02 |
| sticky1 | It is fine. | 22:02 |
| len-dt | It is Saturday, the people who may know an answer might be in a part of the world where it is night time... | 22:02 |
| sticky1 | I'm leaving now. | 22:02 |
| len-dt | better to leave it open | 22:03 |
| len-dt | if someone happens along who does know they may even answer. | 22:03 |
| sticky1 | Here, where I am, it's exactly 00:03 | 22:03 |
| len-dt | Just leave the computer running | 22:03 |
| sticky1 | I'm going to sleep now | 22:03 |
| len-dt | Have a great night. | 22:03 |
| sticky1 | Thank you. Have a good day/night where ever you are | 22:04 |
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