[00:52] <drupin> I want to install the OS what i should keep the partition sizes on 8GB flash drive
[01:01] <ailo> drupin: Not sure what you mean..
[01:01] <ailo> Are you asking about minimum partition size?
[01:02] <ailo> 8GB will work, but you may quickly run out of space, if you add stuff
[01:02] <drupin> to install on 8Gb flash
[01:02] <ailo> 8GB is fine, for default install
[01:03] <ailo> I have a 8GB USB stick, I use. 1GB is for SWAP, but you may not need it. I did run out of space, but I was installing a lot of things
[01:04] <ailo> I actually used the LXDE desktop, since the machine I was using was very old
[01:05] <ailo> But, I guess, there's not that much difference when using XFCE
[01:05] <drupin> ohhh
[01:05] <drupin> swap=ram in comp
[01:05] <ailo> drupin: SWAP is not a must. You can turn swap off, even
[01:06] <ailo> /etc/sysctl.conf
[01:06] <ailo> wm.swappiness = 0
[01:07] <ailo> Probably, no need to set, if there's no swap partition
[01:09] <drupin> actually my studio freezez
[01:09] <drupin> i have 1 GB swap
[01:10] <drupin> i reduced it to 476
[01:10] <ailo> drupin: You need at least 1 GB RAM, preferably 2GB
[01:10] <ailo> With LXDE, I can cope with 1GB
[01:11] <ailo> Firefox uses a lot
[01:11] <drupin> system ram is 2.5 GB
[01:11] <drupin> i use chrome
[01:11] <ailo> chrome, same story
[01:11] <Unit193> Chrome may need a tad more.
[01:11] <ailo> drupin: when does your system freeze
[01:11] <ailo> ?
[01:12] <ailo> Mine freezes more or less when I install software. Haven't yet checked variables, so I have no idea why this happens. Never happened on any other machine
[01:12] <drupin> after a lot of loading means chrome with 10 tabs two terminals and and two file explorers
[01:13] <ailo> drupin: Sounds like you use up the RAM then
[01:13] <ailo> drupin: Did you check RAM usage?
[01:13] <drupin> un #ubuntu they told me swap should be equal to the ram
[01:13] <drupin> no
[01:13] <ailo> SWAP can be double the RAM, but it doesn't really matter
[01:14] <ailo> If you have enough RAM, you don't need SWAP
[01:14] <ailo> However, I actually have never worked with 0 swap
[01:14] <ailo> Should try it
[01:15] <ailo> drupin: When you run out of RAM, swap starts to be used a lot. And that makes everything really slow
[01:15] <drupin> how like 2.5G ram is low
[01:16] <drupin> some time it was freez even without apps
[01:16] <ailo> drupin: Well, on modern web browsers, if you use them for a long time, it's not much
[01:16] <drupin> i was on call with skype
[01:17] <ailo> drupin: When you say freeze, what exactly do you mean? Slow, or full stop?
[01:17] <drupin> stop completely..
[01:18] <ailo> drupin: And you are forced to reboot?
[01:19] <ailo> drupin: System freeze is not happening because of the partition size, anyway
[01:19] <drupin> yes i need hit reset on cpu
[01:20] <ailo> drupin: System freeze can be caused by many things. Faulty RAM, bad graphic drivers, or other bugs
[01:20] <ailo> It's not because of hard disk space, anyway
[01:20] <ailo> Not like Windows, in that respext
[01:21] <drupin> ya graphic driver is default
[01:21] <drupin> i tried to install the ATI cataylist but it failed to install
[01:21] <ailo> Well, I don't think Windows freezes completely, either, but LXDE at least does not get slow
[01:21] <drupin> check pm
[01:22] <ailo> drupin: I'd rather you continue here :)
[01:22] <ailo> drupin: Use paste.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <drupin> can you see if i need to change any thing on the file size structure
[01:22] <drupin> only the paste
[01:22] <drupin> ya
[01:24] <ailo> drupin: Again, I don't think it's because of hard disk space.
[01:24] <ailo> It's very hard to know why, for me, at least
[01:24] <drupin> u means the size of flash
[01:24] <ailo> drupin: Maybe you can find the answer in system logs
[01:25] <ailo> drupin: I would ask on other channels to find more info, like #ubuntu. It's something not specific to Ubuntu Studio, anyway
[01:25] <drupin> where
[01:25] <ailo> There's /var/log&syslog
[01:25] <ailo> /var/log/syslog*
[01:26] <drupin> ya they told me to run mem test in recovery
[01:26] <drupin> will do this now
[01:26] <ailo> That's to find out if the RAM is faulty or not
[01:26] <drupin> let me check logs
[01:26] <drupin> ok
[01:26] <ailo> drupin: Another way to check RAM is to take one out, and see how things go.
[01:27] <drupin> is there any way i can remove the swap and merge in main partition
[01:27] <ailo> Never tried that, but maybe? Again, not our experise
[01:27] <drupin> right
[01:27] <drupin> ok
[01:50] <ailo> drupin: I don't think you need to, unless you really need the space
[01:50] <ailo> Cause, again, I don't think the hard disk space has anything to do with the system freeze
[01:50] <drupin> ok
[01:51] <ailo> System freeze is usually either a grave system bug, faulty RAM, or something bad with the graphic card
[01:51] <ailo> Not hard disk space
[01:52] <drupin> ok
[01:52] <drupin> let me see the log
[01:54] <ailo> Reading the backscroll, just wanted to clarify that looking at /var/log/syslog was not a way to find out about faulty RAM, while doing a memory test would be
[01:55] <drupin> some where EISA: Cannot allocate resource for mainboard
[01:55] <ailo> I think if the system freeze is really critical, there may be no valuable syslog
[01:55] <drupin> ok
[01:56] <ailo> drupin: That did sound like a clue, but I wouldn't know
[01:56] <drupin> right
[01:56] <drupin> is i safe to post sys log in public
[01:58] <ailo> I'm not an expert in network security by any means, but I would say as long as you don't post passwords you're pretty safe. There's also ip adress and username, but those are usually a bit harder to keep secret
[01:59] <ailo> Especially IP adress
[02:01] <ailo> drupin: I can't decipher most of that anyway, but you only need to post whatever happened just before the crash
[02:01] <ailo> And there are other logs you can look into as well
[02:02] <ailo> Like xorg, or whatever. I can't really tell you
[02:02] <drupin> right
[02:12] <drupin> check this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ&hd=1
[02:12] <drupin> i want to do some real work on studio
[02:12] <drupin> if it gets working
[02:13] <ailo> drupin: Blender?
[02:14] <drupin> yes
[02:14] <ailo> Ah, I saw that in the text under it
[02:14] <ailo> Pretty cool
[02:14] <drupin> you do any of the stuff
[02:14] <drupin> go to sintel.org
[02:15] <ailo> Mostly audio. I've been very interested in 3d, games and such, and I've done a bit of that, but nothing worth mentioning
[02:15] <ailo> If I know anything, it's music
[02:15] <drupin> yes the ardour studio
[02:15] <drupin> try it its amazing
[02:16] <drupin> so many kool apps to learn and create music
[02:16] <ailo> Well, I don't acutally use Ardour so much
[02:16] <ailo> Or any of the sequencers
[02:16] <ailo> I used to use Cubase a lot, on Windows
[02:16] <ailo> Recently, I've mostly been using puredata
[02:16] <ailo> Which is also great for video
[02:17] <ailo> I use Ardour mostly, out of the sequencer
[02:18] <ailo> drupin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuJkE789ag
[02:19] <ailo> I'm not as crazy as him
[02:20] <drupin> ok
[21:23] <sticky1> Hello folks. It may sound stupid, but I'm a total noob when it comes to MIDI in Xubuntu... but how do I get my XMIDI1x1 to work with Xubuntu?
[21:23] <sticky1> I have some apps in Wine that need dat MIDI
[22:01] <sticky1> It is 37 minutes later and still no reply...
[22:02] <len-dt> sticky1, you may have to wait longer than that.
[22:02] <sticky1> It is fine.
[22:02] <len-dt> It is Saturday, the people who may know an answer might be in a part of the world where it is night time...
[22:02] <sticky1> I'm leaving now.
[22:03] <len-dt> better to leave it open
[22:03] <len-dt> if someone happens along who does know they may even answer.
[22:03] <sticky1> Here, where I am, it's exactly 00:03
[22:03] <len-dt> Just leave the computer running
[22:03] <sticky1> I'm going to sleep now
[22:03] <len-dt> Have a great night.
[22:04] <sticky1> Thank you. Have a good day/night where ever you are