[11:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:58] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1024424] debug packages not available for kwin @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024424 (by ill)
[14:07] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1051575] KDE's systemsettings.desktop contains an invalid argument in Exec= @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051575 (by TK)
[15:33] <afiestas> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=107798
[15:45] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that some PPA breakage due to 4.9.1 being copied over?
[15:45] <Riddell> ^^
[15:47] <maco> Riddell: seen apachelogger?
[15:49] <Riddell> maco: not online today no
[15:50] <maco> Riddell: ok. im migrating to a new server and wanted to switch my quassel core from sqlite to postgresql while i'm at it, but when i try to convert the db, it tells me postgresql is unsupported, which is pretty interesting given what quassel's website says. so now i'm suspicious that harald left psql support out in his packaging
[15:51] <Riddell> would Sput know?
[15:51] <maco> Riddell: idk? harald's the packager
[15:53] <Riddell> maco: looking at the sources there's nothing build time specific about postgres
[15:53] <Riddell> it might be runtime, have you got it installed?
[15:53] <maco> yes
[15:53] <maco> i think i do. i can double check
[15:54] <maco> oh hmm or maybe not.
[15:54] <maco> i thought i had it installed for diaspora
[15:54] <maco> oh. looks like i had it installed and lost it on upgrade to 12.04
[15:57] <maco> well now i have to stop the quassel core to try again
[15:57] <maco> thanks Riddell
[16:05] <maco_> Riddell: didnt work with either postgresql 8.4 or 9.1 installed :(
[16:06] <Riddell> maco_: time to ask in #quassel I guess
[16:07] <maco_> trying :-/
[16:09] <Riddell> maco_: hmm it's a qt issue
[16:09] <Riddell> maybe
[16:10] <Riddell> got qt postgres plugin installed?
[16:10] <maco_> there's a qt postgres plugin?
[16:12] <Riddell> maco_: try installing libqt4-sql-psql
[16:12] <maco_> Riddell: i was just told in #quassel
[16:12] <maco_> thans
[16:12] <maco_> *thanks
[16:14] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1050776] kde4-window-decorator crashes when starting up @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1050776 (by Iven Hsu)
[17:17] <Riddell> maco: patches to make that more user friendly welcome :)
[17:17] <maco> Riddell: i gave up and started over with a clean database
[17:18] <maco> it turns out if the database migration fails, you dont get a second try.
[17:18] <maco> it just says it's already initialized so there must not be anything to migrate
[17:18] <maco> the only thing i could think of on the psql and qt front is having quasselcore depend on them
[17:19] <maco> Riddell: see the "if your migration stops" part on http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/projects/quassel-irc/wiki/PostgreSQL ?
[17:19] <maco> i ran into that, despite using the --configdir= argument
[17:20] <maco> so all i can conclude is that i shouldve started with psql not sqlite because converting later is futile
[18:01] <afiestas> do we have any iso size limit now?
[18:02] <afiestas> would be awesome to install samba by default I think
[18:20] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1024424] debug packages not available for kwin @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024424 (by ill)
[18:44] <Riddell> afiestas: an arbitrary 1GB
[18:45] <Riddell> afiestas: there should be a simple installer for samba in the file share dialogue anyway
[19:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: possibly due to lp not publishing everything together
[19:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah that's why I always test the PPA after copying before I announce it
[19:24] <shadeslayer> well ... it worked just fine via ninjas and via staging, so I went ahead and asked the story to be published
[19:24] <shadeslayer> didn't realize that publishing delays might have caused issues
[19:25] <shadeslayer> hm
[19:25] <shadeslayer> lwn has a article on bzr and bzr development
[19:25] <shadeslayer> and ... whoa, Martin Pool left Canonical? 
[19:27] <Riddell> yeah, same time as me
[19:28] <Riddell> and sladen
[19:28] <maco> i learned spiv left a year ago
[19:28] <maco> dropping like flies
[19:29] <shadeslayer> ^
[19:29] <shadeslayer> maco: hi!!
[19:29] <maco> hi
[19:29]  * shadeslayer hasn't seen maco around for quite some time
[19:29] <maco> i have been in the channel!
[19:29] <maco> just.....lurky
[19:29] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:30] <maco> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/422858_4110827182390_668532742_n.jpg i got a bit sunburned doing this yesterday
[19:31] <Riddell> maco: spiv left bzr at the same time as me
[19:31] <Riddell> maybe I'm a bad influence on the bzr team :)
[19:31] <maco> (my back is to the camera)
[19:31] <shadeslayer> darn, I wish they had these kind of things here :(
[19:31] <Riddell> maco: your own clothing creation?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> All I did today was watch Prometheus and eat junk food
[19:31] <maco> Riddell: yes
[19:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you wish you had a recreation of medaeval england?  that would put you on the losing side I fear
[19:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw, the canal where you go canoeing, are the waters as choppy as they were in Estonia?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> well .. ok .. not that entirely, I wish I there was a archery here
[19:33] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well no, it's a canal, inland and narrow, only thing scary is the swans
[19:33] <shadeslayer> aw
[19:33] <shadeslayer> no rapids or such?
[19:34] <maco> hey im dressed italian, and the woman next to me goes by Ingeborg, so i think she's Swedish or something
[19:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: not in my back garden alas, takes a drive to get to the rapids and surf but I do that whenever I get a chance (not too often since I can't drive currently)
[19:34] <shadeslayer> oh ... hmm
[19:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: this slalom I ran a few weeks ago had plenty of rapids http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/7887852562/in/photostream
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ooohhh
[19:36] <shadeslayer> that looks awesome
[19:37] <shadeslayer> "Version 2.7 of the GNU patch utility — the first release in almost three years — is out." < haha
[19:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: quick, get a FFe!  can't be behind on that!
[19:38] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:39] <shadeslayer> I .... don't feel like doing anything
[19:39] <shadeslayer> just talking and listening to this song over and over and over and over again
[19:39] <shadeslayer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R091mdTkrF4 < this one
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there was someone in #kubuntu a day or two ago who was asking if we were going to provide paid support ... so there does seem to be a market for that :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> would be nice if the company that you were talking about comes out with something soonish
[19:42] <Riddell> hope so!
[19:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hah, that's a great fiddle tune
[19:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:51] <maco> while i was at pennsic, one of the bards let me try his fiddle
[19:52] <maco> i never played an instrument with a bow before
[19:54] <Riddell> maco: did you play some diddly dee and start a ceilidh or did you just screetch like a grumpy cat?
[19:56] <maco> Riddell: somewhere in the between?
[19:56] <maco> i made lots of long notes
[19:56] <maco> the guy showing me how to play it was impressed that i was able to play one string at a time on the first try
[19:57] <maco> but of course i dont know where the notes are on the fingerboard so thatd take practice (and/or some strips of tape on the fingerboard) to get
[20:09] <Riddell> maco: I've always found stringed instruments tricky to play, and with the fiddle you need excellent alexander technique to not get a cricked neck
[20:09] <maco> alexander technique?
[20:15] <Riddell> when my mum does, teaches you how to use minimal muscle tension for positions you spend lots of time in
[20:16] <Riddell> like sitting at an office desk or holding a fiddle to your head
[20:16] <maco> oh
[20:17] <Tm_T> maco: heh, I'm too heavy-handed with string instruments, which leads muscle pains on fingers rather quickly
[20:18] <Riddell> Tm_T: alexander technique!
[20:18] <Tm_T> which is why I've been practicing more gentle holding, not playing really anything, just trying to do as little as possible (:
[20:18] <Riddell> cheap lessons from my mum :)
[22:52] <afiestas> rbelem: yay!
[22:53] <afiestas> can't wait to see kubuntu active runnign there!
[22:53] <afiestas> is the performance any good?