[00:15] kubuntu beta 1 is *amazingly* responsive even from the usb stick [00:16] great for you, but off-topic here ;) [00:16] why? [00:17] szal: ? [00:17] !quantal | gbz <- because [00:17] gbz <- because: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [00:18] i dont like the way it autodects my small screen though. its been annoying ever since that was introduced [00:19] no kubuntu+1? [00:29] i like the new calligra. better than libreoffice [00:30] gbz: ;) [00:31] gbz: calliga + kile [00:31] i think im actually going to install tomorrow. really impressed. hope it doesnt break that much until final. im not good with dpkg mambo jumbo [00:32] maybe grab a daily iso [00:33] geowany_: i dont use latex sorry [00:33] * szal sees no hope for Calligra until it works w/ OOo/LO ODF files properly [00:33] KWord 2.1 couldn't even open my letter templates from LO [00:34] and if it did, they looked like garbage [00:38] hmm one instance of braindump is stuck on memory. and its icon looks really horrible in task switching. its really low quality [00:40] and it cant be killed for some reason [00:45] maybe vlc would be a worthy addition. there is space :p [00:46] hmm favourites in classic menu has a kopete shortcut which naturally doesnt work [00:46] bug^ [00:48] it says favorites. i guess thats en-us. damn violators [00:52] hmm libreoffice is in upgrades. are you gonna ship 2 office suites? [00:54] ok, times up. gonna install tomorrow. good night [02:54] apachelogger: does kubuntu's version of quassel-core only support sqlite? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208124/ === TheMaster is now known as Unit193 [06:28] trying to install 12.10 was a bad idea after all. even though the beta worked fine. after applying the upgrades it all went up in smoke. ill do 12.04.1 + 4.9.1 ppa for now [06:29] too bad kopete will stay [06:31] gbz: and kde-telepathy? [06:31] and kdm too. lightdm is better === geowany_ is now known as Geowany [06:31] Geowany: what about it? [06:32] telepathy is better than kopete. anything is [06:32] gbz: I read anyplace that kopete will be changed to kde-telepathy [06:32] yes. it will. its better and well integrated in system settings as well [06:33] gbz: I don't like when kopete update (kde3 -> kde4) lose the irc protocol [06:34] you'll get it back in 12.10. i dont know if kde-telepathy is available for 12.04 [06:35] didnt check all the updates from the ppa im getting now but i dont think its in there [06:36] are upgrades from version to version reliable? 12.04-> 12.10 for example [06:49] now i have some weird entries in the menu [06:49] and muon is gone from the menu. wtf [06:50] WTF! [06:51] does anyone know whats up with that? [06:53] i have an about plasma active icon which does nothing. an adjust date and time. and a widget strip. and myon is gone! [06:57] http://paste.kde.org/549740 [06:57] wtf! [06:58] it removed myon on its own. i was told that it was just gonna remove a libkdegamessomething [06:59] how the hell did that happen? any ideas anyone? [07:03] is myon reliable? [07:03] or the ppa is broken [07:04] is anyone providing support here? [07:06] hi all. in which file is it stored the history of all the commands i gave in my terminal window? [07:08] maybe in /var/tmp/kdecache-* not sure though [07:08] might want to ask in #kde. noone is here [07:11] ok thanks. i thought there is a file in my /home [07:11] maybe there is. i dont know [07:11] akis: oh wait . bash keeps a history too [07:12] i thought you meant an internal kde file [07:12] look for a ~/.bash_history === kish_ is now known as kish [07:12] yeah, should be there [07:16] i will have a look [07:17] no /.bash in my /home [07:17] oh wait there is a file [07:17] not a dir [07:17] thats what you want i misunderstood your question at first. i think konsole keeps a log somewhere too [07:18] yes a file called ~/.bash_history [07:18] yesss. everything is here. is it sure there is everything from the start of my distro? [07:19] probably [07:19] ok. thanks ! [07:19] np [07:19] i wish someone would help me too [07:23] gbz, what is your problem? [07:24] Graf_Westerholt: i installed 12.04.1 and tried to upgrade to the 4.9.1 ppa. this is what happened: http://paste.kde.org/549740 [07:24] it removed myon among other important things [07:26] Muon? [07:26] the only change i did that might have some effect to anything was removing all sources repos and the cdrom from software list [07:26] yea, muon [07:28] when prompted about some packages being unselected for the upgrade i chose all. the dialog said that only a libkdegames lib was about to be removed [07:29] Sorry, I have no idea, that is to much for my Linux skills. [07:29] probably libkdegames5a which is in removal output [07:30] maybe i should install aptitude [07:30] even though i doubt thats gonna fix anything now [07:32] now i get this: [07:32] The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: [07:32] plasma-active-mobilecomponents share-like-connect-data libqtwebkit-qmlwebkitplugin share-like-connect plasma-active-data [07:32] what the flying fucj [07:33] i used this command "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-filter-so52" to make OO to read StarOffice files. Do you think this command will work with a newly install LibreOffice or is any other similar command available? [07:33] those were the crap that appered in my menus [07:34] I do not know. [07:35] I suggest you reinstall the complet system. [07:35] me? [07:35] Yes, gbz. [07:36] i ve already done two installations. and since i dont know what caused this, since i didnt do anything weird, whos gonna guarantee thats not gonna happen again? [07:36] You did not say that. [07:37] So you should not upgrade Kubuntu to KDE 4.8 [07:37] *4.9 [07:37] isnt the ppa supposed to work? its almost official [07:37] I guess not. [07:38] heh, change your license to mit/x11 [07:38] ffs [07:38] Sorry? [07:38] nothing [07:38] im pissed off [07:39] Why? [07:39] cause the cat has one ear [07:40] gbz, my KDE is 4.8.5, so I guess 4.9 is not finished yet, it is beta. [07:40] 4.9.1 has released [07:41] and you have no idea what you're talking about. are you even using kubuntu? [07:41] Do you want me to ignore you? [07:41] 12.04 has 4.8.4 [07:41] there is no 4.8.5 upgrade [07:42] and 4.9.1 is much better than 4.8.x. its not 4.0.1, that was beta [07:42] or even prealpha [07:43] My KDE is 4.8.5. Are you trolling? [07:43] no, is it from a ppa? [07:43] Sure. [07:44] ok, that explains it [07:47] oh damn, back to the basics [08:04] Good morning === paolo is now known as faLUCE [09:23] hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic === IdleOne is now known as Guest92513 === pem is now known as Guest63075 === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox === Guest82737 is now known as epzil0n [10:54] with lsusb I see that none of the usb units are marked with "high speed". Only "full speed", for 2.0 too. why? [10:55] faLUCE: high speed i guess is fr 2.0 [10:55] Peace-: ? [10:58] Peace-: ? [11:17] Howdy all === Vito_away is now known as Vito === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE [12:17] wo bin ich?? [12:27] shadeslayer: is kdevelop 4.4rc packaged for precise somewhere? === dark is now known as Guest28729 [12:40] @dilo§ [13:04] hi, i may be retarded, but can someone tell me how to start telepathy, or is empathy and telepathy the same thing? [13:06] hi [13:06] hi [13:07] I wanted to try kde-sc v4.9.1 and did a 'apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa' [13:07] oneadvent, the quick method is alt+f2 , type telepathy [13:07] * dileks follows http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491 [13:08] BluesKaj: I did that and looked in my menu and it doesn't seem to find telepathy (telepathy: command not found in cli) but I have kde-telepathy is already the newest version. [13:08] but I only see v4.8.5 packages available [13:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208839/ [13:09] oneadvent, ok then type kde-telepathy :) [13:10] :D i did..same thing, command not found [13:10] kde-telepathy: command not found [13:11] oneadvent, sudo apt-get install kde-telepathy [13:11] just the kde-telepathy is already the newest version. [13:11] http://paste2.org/p/2230542 specifically [13:12] did you look in the kmenu>apps>internet, oneadvent [13:12] BluesKaj: yea and i dont see it there either :/ [13:13] dileks, I think you have to upgrade 4.9.0 , then 4.9.1 [13:13] oneadvent, have you updated/upgraded lately ? [13:13] umm, ktp-contactlist ? [13:14] um nothing out of the ordinary, on 12.04, and i can try that avihay [13:14] i think i did but i'll try again [13:15] ah there it is! avihay you found it... [13:15] I was wondering bout that myself, but I always got distracted when I tried to find the solution [13:15] telepathy was broken on my system the last time I tried it ... don't care for all in one clients anyway [13:16] avihay: do you know the indicator applet too? [13:16] odd that typing the name of the app doesn't launch it [13:16] I think it's ment to be used as a plasmoid something? [13:17] anyway, the repository's version is 0.4 which is supposed to be of beta quality [13:17] 0.5 is deemed a reasonable replacement for keopete [13:18] well KDE Telepathy Contact List [13:18] Version 0.5 [13:19] that is what i'm on [13:19] but idk how to make it minimize so gots work to do on it [13:20] can minimize via the taskbar [13:20] WARNING **: Failed to register the approver: Name 'org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.IndicatorApprover' already in use by another process [13:20] that is the error i get trying to make it an indicator. might have to reboot :/ [13:20] lemme try and reboot x and see if that helps [13:23] hmmm i think it is empathy getting in the way === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [13:41] Hello, What is the bets programmes that is KDE based for DVD ripping? i've tried k3b but nothing happens when i clcik ripDVD it just jumps to the folder in DVD. i added (installed) transcode but again nothing happens. currently using Handbrake, but i was wondering if an easy to use KDE app can do it. [13:41] best [13:42] maybe Amarok has something [13:45] Boffy, what's the file extnsion /file type you are trying to rip with k3b? [13:46] Boffy, make sure you kubuntu-restricted-extras installed as well [13:55] anyone has any luck authenticating telepathy with ICQ? also with SIP? [14:04] avihay: I do with icq [14:06] mck182: no particular issues? [14:06] nope [14:06] avihay: do you have kwallet enabled? [14:06] maybe not authing on some networks [14:06] yes [14:06] avihay: and what's your exact problem? [14:07] both the msn and ICQ I had from before are non-functional [14:07] hm [14:07] well you can try either readding the accounts [14:07] I've managed to readd msn and gtalk successfully though [14:07] no luck with icq? [14:07] icq, still no dice :-< [14:08] what does it say when you try to connect? [14:08] ppl actually still use icq ? [14:08] * mck182 wish people wouldn't, but understands why.. [14:10] * Garheade has never logged into icq [14:12] BluesKaj: you'd be surprised mck182: authentication failure [14:12] avihay: can you open kwalletmanager and look if the password there is correct? [14:13] BluesKaj: how to upgrade to v4.9.x? [14:13] or even try removing it from there, it should ask you for the pass again [14:13] I retyped them, but TBH, I'm not sure of it anymore... [14:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#Commandline_method [14:13] I followed this... so [14:14] dileks, did you add the backport ppa to your repositories , then update and upgrade ? [14:15] of course [14:15] lemme check the auto-added sources.list [14:15] dileks, and then do dist-upgrade [14:16] nope nope nope [14:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208974/ [14:16] hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic [14:17] fgg [14:18] kubuntu-ppa-ppa-precise.list === vsrao_ is now known as vsrao [14:18] shouldnt that be blablubbs backports? [14:18] 你好 [14:18] hello [14:18] hehe [14:18] grrr [14:18] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491 [14:18] dileks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:18] ...says... [14:19] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [14:19] dileks, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:19] looks like wrong repo [14:20] lemme through away the added one [14:21] no no no [14:21] no auto-upgrade wanted [14:21] apt-pinning dance again [14:22] updated the ubuntu pinning-howto some days ago [14:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Pinning_the_ubuntu-x-swat.2BAC8-q-lts-backport-precise_PPA [14:22] dileks, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa [14:23] it works. was wrong repo [14:23] # cat kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list [14:23] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main [14:23] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main [14:24] hello [14:24] dileks, which one works? [14:25] the last quoted [14:25] I do a paste of both... sources.list and apt-pinning-file [14:27] the launchpad ppa ..odd , [14:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208998/ [14:28] is there a meta-package I can reference to upgrade to kde-4.9.1? [14:28] kde-standard, -full whatever [14:29] kde-standard seems to exist [14:29] there is no kde-minimal anymore? [14:30] guess its same situation as with debian [14:30] apt-pinning works [14:32] FloodBotK1: flood? [14:35] good, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209017/ [14:36] there exist a kde-greeter for lightdm? [14:36] lightdm-kde-greeter - LightDM KDE greeter [14:36] nice when I answer your own question :-) [14:36] thanks [14:37] dunno if I wil really upgrade to kde-sc v4.9.1 or not [14:38] dileks, I have the same repos/ppas already listed in my sources.list but 4.9.1 doesn't install from them either [14:39] thats why I asked for the meta package [14:39] think I'll stick with 4.9.0 [14:40] try... apt-get install kde-standard (optionally with -t $distribution) [14:40] I can do a simultated upgrade [14:42] I'm running 4.9.1 on 12.10 , there isn't much diff to a home user compared to 4.9.0 [14:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209031/ [14:43] 12,04 here is very similar '] [14:43] takes the 4.8.5 pkgs [14:47] yupp, as pointed already... -t precise gives you v4.9.1 pkgs [14:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209037/ [14:47] apt-get install -t precise kde-standard --simulate [14:47] BluesKaj: ^^ [14:49] 63 upgraded, 216 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded. [14:50] no data for disc-usage [14:53] hmm, this would install lightdm-kde-greeter and kdm === paolo is now known as faLUCE [15:03] -d gives some numbers... 278 MB of archives... 413 MB of additional disk space will be used === kris_ is now known as Guest60394 === ruben is now known as Guest21692 === clansman is now known as steel`afk === andrea is now known as Guest10351 [15:36] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Examples [15:36] Example #2: Pinning the kubuntu-ppa/backports PPA [15:37] thanks for your help [15:37] have fun :-) [15:37] bye === Guest92513 is now known as IdleOne [15:53] Hi, I have no idea what happened but my sister did some stuff and her laptop boots to busybox and nothing beyond that. its supposed to have kubuntu 12.04.1 [15:53] Files from the home partition are accessible via a live cd [15:56] GirlyGirl: do you have experience with wacom tablets in kubuntu 12.04 [15:56] ? [15:56] Roey: No sorry [15:57] GirlyGirl, can the / partition be mounted ? [15:57] aye [15:57] BluesKaj: Under a livecd yes [15:58] BluesKaj: I got my tablet to work finally. Turns out I had installed this pre-production PPA wacom kernel driver six months ago, and it kept overriding the stock driver. [15:58] GirlyGirl, wonder if grub was wiped somehow [15:59] Can't be, you get a grub loader screen to select os to boot, windows or Ubuntu, after chosing Ubuntu it goes to busybox [15:59] Roey: I have some experience with Wacom, do you still have a problem? [16:00] not anymore [16:00] just gestures [16:00] in Krita. But that's an issue for the Krita developers [16:00] ok GirlyGirl , then try running the recovery kernel , and in the dialog "choose repair broken packages " [16:00] Roey: Ah, that is a generation after my tablet... [16:00] BluesKaj: I tried, that loads busybox too [16:01] lordievader: hee, intuos5 here :> [16:01] though unusable for a few months while I was resolving that issue. [16:02] Hi I have a question, I've gotten my Genius EasyPen i405X graphics tablet to work on my machine but unfortunately I'm unable to limit it to use only one of my three screens. This causes a terrible scaling weher the vertical axes is about 3-4 times as sensitive as the horizontal axis rendering it almost impossible to use.. [16:03] Tried the transformation matrix but that ended up with the pointer jumping around like crazy when I draw vertical lines.. [16:04] GirlyGirl, did try typing exit at the prompt ? [16:04] No [16:05] GirlyGirl, do you get any errors when it drops to busybox? [16:05] No, but I do not see a splash screen or anything, [16:07] do you have an initramfs prompt ? [16:08] if so type exit and see if the boot continues [16:08] Roey: Are you running a single- or multi-monitor setup? [16:08] single [16:09] Darn, I was hoping someone with a graphics tablet was having similar difficulties. [16:10] BluesKaj: Typing exit makes the laptop go off [16:11] It instantly goes of and the laptop makes a click noise like it normally does during an improper shutdown e.g press power for 5s === Vito is now known as Vito_away [16:12] PeterME: Perhaps post #3 of the following thread can help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393775 [16:13] ok GirlyGirl , once you get back to grub choose the kernel then to edit the file with "e" , then remove the "quiet" and "splash" options from the boot arguments , that might work [16:13] PeterME: Or perhaps this: http://bensimonds.com/2011/05/25/setting-up-dual-monitors-with-a-wacom-tablet-on-ubuntu-11-04/ [16:13] lordievader: Unfortunately it's not a wacom tablet so it's not running on the wacom drivers.. [16:14] I've tried this approch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656089 [16:14] Without luck [16:15] I'm able to limit it to one screen but it jumps between it's actual position and the edge of the sreen [16:16] BluesKaj: Still busybox [16:18] PeterME: Ah I see, I assumed too much. [16:18] then GirlyGirl , I don't have a suggestion , except reinstall to / , it shouldn't take too long , just make sure your home partition mountpoint is selected , without formatting [16:19] GirlyGirl, , but you'll need to format / mountpoint [16:22] BluesKaj: Any ideas on how to install, the dvd drive is broken and its usb ports don't work well [16:22] I've just kept upgrading Kubuntu on it since the drive broke [16:22] replace the parts on your system? [16:23] GirlyGirl: Get a new dvd drive? [16:23] TheLordOfTime: I guess dvd could be replaced but her laptop is old so it might be a waste [16:24] GirlyGirl, so buy an external CD/DVD reader [16:24] THe usb works but ever 10 mins or so it behaves as if the usb device was unplugged and replugged [16:24] they run, oh, about $45 but its a decent investment [16:24] GirlyGirl, you could upgrade to 12.10 over the internet if you feel adventurous [16:24] ehh, right, your USB is glitchy [16:24] BluesKaj: from busybox? [16:24] lordievader: Do you have a tablet in a multi-monitor setup? [16:24] GirlyGirl, i'd say replace the system, if its that old and its not working USB or DVD, you might be in for the ending of that system [16:25] PeterME: No, simply a laptop with, at times, an older Wacom tablet. [16:25] I have a live cd working on it though from an image boot thing I set up in grub [16:25] Its a 11.04 live cd I think [16:26] lordievader: Aah, have you ever tried the Coordinate Transformation Matrix thing? [16:26] GirlyGirl, oops ..sorry too much going on here ..got confused for a minute [16:26] PeterME: Never even heard of that. Rarely use it with Linux. [16:29] isnt 11.04 EOL soon? [16:29] !11.04 [16:29] Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104 [16:29] !eol [16:29] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [16:29] yep its EOL in october [16:30] lordievader: Okay, my tablet works so much better under windows. Don't really want to have to switch back and forth though.. [16:30] hi [16:31] PeterME: Oh well, I don't mind switching back and forth. [16:31] Hey sekisushai, how are you? [16:31] i've got a problem to run a usb dongle with r8191su driver [16:31] lordievader : fine thanks :) [16:32] lordievader: It's just annoying to keep both up to date.. [16:33] this dongle is run by r8712u driver under my kubuntu x86_64 12.04.. no detection problem, idem scanning the network, but impossible to associate the dongle to an essid [16:33] i read on the web this is a bug with r8712 module and kernel 3.2.x .. i don't really know === julian is now known as Guest95269 === steel`afk is now known as clansman === Franek is now known as Cmokas === maco is now known as Guest70288 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [17:45] i am trying to get the best 3d performince from my ati x1400 and i just installed Gallium3d and i still cant get a game to run [17:48] i am trying to get the best 3d performince from my ati x1400 and i just installed Gallium3d and i still cant get a game to run [17:49] kensuaga: What games are you trying to run? [17:49] these are the errors i get SDL Initialized [17:49] libGL error: failed to load driver: r300 [17:49] libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details. [17:49] libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast [17:49] libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details. [17:49] kensuaga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [17:49] SDL_net Initialized [17:50] the game is called coldest [17:50] kensuaga: And what are the system requirements? Is it a windows game btw? [17:50] in is the linux version [17:51] http://www.lgdb.org/game/coldest [17:52] kensuaga: Hmm is the x1400 on par with the 8800gt or an x300 mobile? [17:53] its has 256 mb dedicated [17:54] i have run guildwars on this system [17:55] kensuaga: Seems to be a lot slower than an 8800M GTS, not sure if it will run. [17:57] should it still let me get into the game? i cant even get that far? [17:58] kensuaga: Yes it should, how did you install the game? And did you install the drivers for you video card? [18:02] this is all i did on a fresh install sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa [18:02] sudo apt-get update [18:02] sudo apt-get upgrade [18:02] kensuaga: What does the kde-jockey give? [18:10] ati redeon - License free [18:15] kensuaga: Is that the recommended driver? If so, did you install it? [18:17] not sure where that came from? i was using the one that comes with kubuntu never tried anything until now. i am guessing that is from gallium [18:18] kensuaga: You mean the closed-source driver? I assume it was always there, however is it installed? [18:20] i believe that ati does support this card on 12.04. they dropped support for it a long time ago [18:20] kensuaga: Can you answer my question please. [18:20] no closed-source to install? [18:21] kensuaga: The jockey has no options? [18:21] jockey has ati redeon - License free activated [18:22] kensuaga: Ah, thank you. So there is a driver for it installed. How did you install the game? Through apt-get? [18:23] i just manual downloaded it - extract - and click on a script [18:24] no install [18:28] kensuaga: Unfortunately I don't know how to proceed. [18:29] thank you very much for your help [18:30] kensuaga: No problem, too bad we couldn't resolve the problem. [18:30] i am not able to find much documentation on Galluim and it just semed too easy [18:31] kensuaga: Never hear of Galluim. [18:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D [18:36] kensuaga: I got to go. Hope you will find a solution. === eric_j_viking is now known as NeuralKernel [19:30] seems like every time I turn around there's a new kernel [19:33] hallo [19:33] german here ? [20:03] BluesKaj the file i am trying to rip with k3b is a DVD video file from DVD camera (.vob extension) [20:04] however nothing happens when selecting RipDVD [20:07] sorry got a Quassel crash before and then had to do some other things... [20:07] recap: Hello, What is the bets programmes that is KDE based for DVD ripping? i've tried k3b but nothing happens when i clcik ripDVD it just jumps to the folder in DVD. i added (installed) transcode but again nothing happens. currently using Handbrake, but i was wondering if an easy to use KDE app can do it. [21:33] is anyone around? [21:34] yes, but don't expect fast replies [21:35] upgrading to the 4.9.1 ppa removes these files: http://paste.kde.org/549962/ which includes muon and kubuntu-desktop. why? [21:35] mck182: I believe it was a wrong password issue , also, seems like ICQ is pushing Login with email over UIN [21:36] glad it works :) [21:36] it also installs these: http://paste.kde.org/549968/ which are uneeded [21:37] and i have obviously removed [21:37] Kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it shouldn’t bother you, and maybe they decided muon isn't fit for production environment after a few years where it failed miserably? [21:38]