[00:20] http://pastebin.com/zs4QeEKZ from X.log [00:21] shouldn't happen [00:25] learn by failing :P [00:25] yeh, please file a bug [00:44] zoktar: I notice an old bug but crashing at the same spot, bug 738526 , you don't happen to have xfs installed, do you? [00:44] Launchpad bug 738526 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "crash accessing font info with xfs in fontpath" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/738526 [00:47] hmm long running nasty buf [00:47] g [00:53] i will have a look [01:06] thanks ! [01:28] is there any native app for bug reference? so you dont nessesairly have to have a web page to use it? [02:01] I couldn't really find an answer.. is there is anyway I can downgrade my X server in quantal? [02:02] (by searching the web) I just want to downgrade the X server (preferably without building from source) so that the legacy fglrx drivers will work with it. [04:45] Hi everyone. I can't get Font Viewer to work long enough for me to install a few TrueType fonts without crashing. Where are fonts stored in the filesystem? I'd much rather do this from a terminal. [05:08] Does anyone knows how to activate the window spreader in ubuntu quetzal [05:12] cowsquad: try Super+W === geowany_ is now known as Geowany [09:20] hey everyone [09:20] grub trouble [09:20] i get to the grub rescue prompt and try to load the normal.mod, but it fails [09:20] although it's there [09:20] grub rescue> set [09:20] prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/ [09:20] root=(hd0,msdos1) [09:22] when i ls $prefix/i386-pc/ i see the normal.mod [09:48] anyone alive? I'd really like to know if there's any way to boot from grub rescue other than with a rescue cd ot netboot [09:48] as i can't do either. === IdleOne is now known as Guest92513 === jbicha is now known as Guest21308 === blaze is now known as Guest20426 === bodhizazen is now known as Guest93220 [11:05] hi guys, my close/min/max are on the right. Ubuntu tweak doesn't seem to make it switch, can anyone advise how to switch it back. Thanks [11:17] Howdy all [11:18] yo [11:18] Mornin' [11:19] hey ActionParsnip, penguin42 [11:29] http://wklej.org/hash/316d3ac1011/txt/ - what's wrong? [11:30] Guest20426: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 [11:31] Guest20426: See the note near the top of that; 12.04 sets update to only upgrade to next LTS by default [11:33] Guest20426: you'll need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgradesĀ  and set Prompt=normal [11:33] thaks [11:33] *thanks [12:06] just had an upgrade to kubuntu-desktop , that's a bit unusual [12:08] ? [12:11] usually there are associated packages === Guest21308 is now known as jbicha [12:52] BluesKaj: Changelog shows it was a 'Refreshed dependencies' [12:53] !info wine [12:53] wine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB [12:53] they really stick with wine 1.4 stable until 1.6? [12:57] I think there might be ppa's of latest-wine [13:01] user82: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa there is a few day old wine1.5 package in there [13:04] penguin42, how does one configure the fonts in wine ...they're unreadable on my monitor unless I'm right up close [13:04] BluesKaj: I don't actually use wine, don't know [13:06] penguin42, ok ... I was curious about it again , hadn't used it in many yrs , but it was unreadable [13:24] am i the only one that doesnt have screensavers? does KDE screensavers work? [13:48] penguin42 true...but wine develops really fast i dont like the choice of sticking with 1.4 [13:51] wish there weas a site that told you what win apps work in winethan maybe i might use it [13:52] gnomefreak http://appdb.winehq.org/ [13:52] don't you know that site [13:53] no i didnt :( [13:53] * gnomefreak goes and looks [13:54] you cant use warcraft on ubuntu? [13:56] mostly games [14:47] user82: It's hard to keep up with wine though, if you don't pick the release version which one do you decide to put into a release [14:48] yes sure...but wine is not "ready" in a way so you could just go the firefox way and update to every version [14:49] with most packages i understand they want a stable version...but the wine experience with a so called "stable" 1.4 is not any better than with the newest beta [14:49] user82: not quite, firefox still has intermediates, the Firefox 15 is still there release; now why Ubuntu doesn't have Wine 1.4.1 is a valid question [14:49] it has i think [14:49] !info wine [14:50] wine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB [14:50] ah ok, so it is 1.4.1 - so that's what I'd expect [14:53] Yeah, and Europa Universalis stopped working around 1.3 :/ === Guest92513 is now known as IdleOne [16:08] i just apt-get dist-upgraded my quantal system, now it's stuck at the "grub restore>" prompt, any ideas? [16:09] am i hosed and need to reinstall from scratch? [16:09] or is there a way around this? [16:09] hd1, yes , use the livecd to reinstall grub [16:11] * hd1 doesn't have a liveCD [16:11] though i suppose i could make one [16:11] the computer is a netbook, therefore no CDROM drive [16:15] hd1, it should work from the media/OS installer you used [16:15] usb stick ? [16:15] i installed the system years ago [16:21] hd1, do you have separate/ and /home partitions ? [16:24] nope [16:37] hmm - so on +1 how would I disable the guest login? [16:37] hd1, whatever media that works on your netbook you can use to rescue it , a usb stick with the OS installer will work [16:39] BluesKaj: ok [16:40] well, unity is more stable than last week in a kvm guest - but it's now moving from warm jelly to cold jelly stability [16:44] then when the installer page comes up choose "Try Ubuntu", hd1 , do sudo fdisk -l , then sudo grub-install /dev/sdx , xbeing the name of the OS partition listed in fdisk , hd1 [16:54] ok, cool, BluesKaj [17:04] hello everyone. I'm having some grub trouble :) anyone willing to help? [17:04] basically, i can only boot to grub rescue mode [17:05] from which i can see the root/boot partition, but trying to load normal.mod fails [17:05] with no such file or some such error. [17:05] penguin42: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session [17:05] ls works and i can see all the grub modules in $prefix/i386-pc [17:05] zekoZeko, this the only install or there other OS's [17:06] only install [17:06] happened yesterday when i updated to grub 2.0 [17:06] and the first partition starts at sector 2048, not 63 [17:06] zekoZeko, from grub-legacy [17:06] no [17:06] just a grub update? [17:06] updated to Q a few days ago and it worked well [17:06] yes [17:07] i was updating daily for a few days and it all went tits-up yesterday. [17:08] zekoZeko, here are some reinstalls defaults to a live cd reload of the mbr the next is a chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstall_from_the_LiveCD [17:08] yeah, i could do that [17:08] there's just a few little problems [17:08] i don't have a cd burner and an empty CD/DVD [17:09] and I can't boot from network, because i only have an USB keyboard and it doesn't work in BIOS, so I can't set the machine to boot from network [17:09] zekoZeko, You have a usb thumb that is loadable? [17:09] not handy, but I can get it, that's what I was thinking about [17:09] the strange thing is [17:10] I can load another grub modul [17:10] module [17:10] what's it's name, just a sec [17:11] minicmd [17:12] with insmod (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/i386-pc/minicmd.mod [17:12] but not with [17:12] insmod minicmd [17:12] set shows [17:12] prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub [17:12] root=hd0,msdos1 [17:14] I'm not familiar with that, I have the manual boot saved somewhere, but a live cd on a cd or a thumb is about your best tool you should always have. [17:15] OK, that's what I'll do then, thanks. [17:15] I usually carry a grub rescue thumb drive with me, but it seems I threw it out of the backpack when I was at home :) [17:16] supergrub is another for booting in and fixing grub, I have a multiload usb with both of those and a handful of other tools. [17:17] don't know what happened though, I read here about problems for people that have the first partition starting at sector 63, but I cheched and on this machine it starts at 2048 [17:17] I doubt that is a problem honestly [17:18] there is another thing though [17:19] this drive is on a promise soft-raid IDE controller [17:19] and root id /dev/mappd/pdbsomething1 [17:19] err [17:19] /dev/mapper/pdbsometing1 [17:20] I think I've heard that new grub has some trouble with device mapper root partitions [17:21] I know nothing on raid and grub, always mention anything unusual. [17:36] jbicha: Wow - there's no gui to turn it off; that's pretty amazing for something that a lot of people would want to do for security [17:37] penguin42: the guest login is "jail-boxed", so it's not really much of a security issue [17:37] tsimpson: Experience tells me that every jail box that people have done like that is pretty much useless [17:38] tsimpson: It's an absolute no-no if you've got anything confidential on the box, especially if you're using full disk rather than home encryption [20:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/989295 [20:32] Launchpad bug 989295 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Unable to create bootable USB stick and install properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:33] this bug is clearly misfiled how can i 'fix' it [20:34] for one reason, there's no info about if it's precise or quantal [20:36] Of course there is. [20:36] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 [20:39] click the arrow on the left of "lubuntu-meta" and change the package [20:44] no idea what the problem is really [20:44] i don't want to guess === AlanBell is now known as zAlanBell === zAlanBell is now known as AlanBell === geowany_ is now known as Geowany [22:12] i was looking at system requirements for 12.10-beta1-server and it doesn't mention HDD space, what's the bare minimum needed? [22:22] i would guess 2 or 3 [22:22] genewitch, [22:25] alright, good, anything more than that takes too long to set up on a mechanical HDD (as VHD)