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gypsybloodsry went to living room to get the iso for ubunto copying onto flashdrive..gonna be 5 min...and it was a couple years ago i got this laptop00:02
gypsybloodits a toshiba sattelite A665-S6094 quad core00:04
histogypsyblood: you won't ahve a problem with a two year old laptop00:05
histogypsyblood: i've run ubuntu on much older hardware00:05
meditatingfrogyeah, mine is older than that00:06
gypsybloodhisto: yeah i got it on here now...it runs good, i like ubuntu alot so far, just cant get my burner to work, had problem in windows too00:06
meditatingfrogdoes your dvd-rw burn cds okay?00:07
gypsybloodthats what im bout to try with cdrecord with the ubuntu install softwar, making an iso image on this comp00:08
meditatingfrogah00:08
gypsybloodim gonna need help with the command line tho for it...that still confuses the hell outa me00:09
meditatingfroghaving the hell out of you is a good thing00:09
gypsybloodlol yeah i dont believe in hell...but the common belief of hell is definitely a good thing to have out of you lol, so i cant argue there00:10
meditatingfrogreminds me of an alice in chains "heaven beside you, hell within"00:11
meditatingfrogalice in chains song00:11
gypsybloodok should i put the .iso in my home folder? where would be the easiest place to put it to try this with cdrecord?00:11
meditatingfrogpeace to us all00:11
meditatingfrogyeah, home folder00:11
gypsybloodyeah alice in chains is awesome00:11
gypsybloodok its in my home folder now...can you give me the command line that i need to type to make it burn to the cd00:13
gypsybloodthe file name is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso00:14
meditatingfrogcdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0 /home/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso00:14
meditatingfrogyou may want to increase the speed00:14
gypsybloodk im gonna try it on the low speed first tho for this first test run00:15
meditatingfrogoh, it should be /home/username/ubuntu...iso00:15
meditatingfrogassuming you put it in the root of your home folder00:15
gypsybloodok...and the username is the account that im logged into? like on the login screen?00:16
meditatingfrogyeah00:16
gypsybloodk just making sure00:16
meditatingfrogin the terminal you can use the "cd" command to change to the directory that has the file00:17
gypsybloodok so what directory do i need to change to? i put it in home folder00:19
meditatingfrogcd /home/username00:21
meditatingfrogtry that00:21
meditatingfrogthen type "ls" to see if it's there00:21
meditatingfrogif it's there, then run the cdrecord command00:22
gypsybloodok...it says in properties that the location is home/gypsy ....but when i type "cd home/gypsy" in the terminal it says"bash: cd: home/gypsy: No such file or directory"00:23
gypsybloodok nvm...i was doing it wrong...got it there now00:24
gypsybloodit is00:25
gypsybloodthere i mean00:26
meditatingfrogoh, then you're already there00:26
meditatingfrogwhat happens when you type ls?00:26
meditatingfrogdo you see your file?00:26
gypsybloodyeah its there...i entered the command line and it gave me this00:27
gypsybloodcdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Assuming -sao mode. cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 J�rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '2,0' scsibus: 0 target: 2 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 cdrecord: No such file o00:27
gypsybloodcdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'00:28
gypsybloodthe rest of it00:28
gypsybloodcdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso <---what i typed as for the command00:29
meditatingfrogmaybe i should try to ssh in00:30
meditatingfrogotherwise you have to type cdrecord -scanbus00:31
meditatingfrogand see what dev= should be set to00:31
meditatingfrogyou should get something like this: scsibus3:00:31
meditatingfrog3,0,0300) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-U10N ' 'TS05' Removable CD-ROM00:31
meditatingfrogyours is probably 3,0,0 too like mine00:32
meditatingfrogso try cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=3,0,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso00:32
gypsybloodnope same msg00:34
gypsybloodCdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 J�rg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.00:34
gypsybloodscsibus1: 1,0,0100) 'ATA     ' 'ST1000LM010-9YH1' 'CC9F' Disk 1,1,0101) * 1,2,0102) * 1,3,0103) * 1,4,0104) * 1,5,0105) * 1,6,0106) * 1,7,0107) *00:34
meditatingfroghow about cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=3,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?00:34
gypsybloodscsibus4: 4,0,0400) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7703S ' '1.T0' Removable CD-ROM 4,1,0401) * 4,2,0402) * 4,3,0403) * 4,4,0404) * 4,5,0405) * 4,6,0406) * 4,7,0407) *00:35
gypsybloodscsibus8: 8,0,0800) 'CBM     ' 'Flash Disk      ' '5.00' Removable Disk 8,1,0801) * 8,2,0802) * 8,3,0803) * 8,4,0804) * 8,5,0805) * 8,6,0806) * 8,7,0807) *00:35
gypsybloodthats all the infor -scanbus gave me00:35
meditatingfrog!paste00:35
ubot2For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:35
meditatingfrogit's quiet so it probably doesn't matter, but i don't want a bot kicking you or something00:36
meditatingfrogso it's 4,1,000:36
meditatingfrogor 4,100:36
gypsybloodoh...i didnt know about that00:36
meditatingfrogoh, no, wait, 4,0,000:36
meditatingfrogno worries00:36
gypsybloodhow do i that paste.ubuntu.com thing?00:36
meditatingfrogjust go to the site, paste what you have, then it gives you a link after you submit it00:37
meditatingfrogthen paste the link00:37
gypsybloodoh ok...yeah, leme write that down...i have a feeling im gonna need it lol00:37
gypsybloodok got that wrote down...now use the 4,0,0 for the dev?00:39
gypsybloodok yeah that was it00:40
gypsybloodbout to find out if its gonna work00:40
meditatingfrogcool00:40
meditatingfrogso you're making a movie disc to watch on a dvd player?00:41
meditatingfrogi had this old dvd player i cracked open, i wanted to see if there was someway i could route video from an old computer through it to a tv or something somehow00:42
meditatingfrogi dunno, it was a silly idea00:42
meditatingfrogironically, the new dvd players have like usb ports on them and wifi and junk00:42
meditatingfrogor, well, perhaps not ironically00:43
meditatingfrogcoincidentally00:43
gypsybloodyeah..i use to burn alot of dvd's...now tho i primarily use a flashdrive and my ps3 instead of using so many blank disks00:43
gypsybloodi had a car once that someone stole my cd player out of...i wired in a portably dvd player to the speakers lol00:44
gypsybloodportable*00:45
gypsybloodso far so good...its about halfway done00:45
gypsybloodso i use the same command line for dvd's as well?00:45
meditatingfrogi think so, there doesn't appear to be a dvd option00:47
meditatingfrogat least that i saw00:48
gypsybloodk...i think ill try that next, its almost done with this00:49
gypsybloodcould i get you to put the command line for turning something into and .iso again plz?00:50
gypsybloodinto *an*00:50
gypsybloodand then after that im just gonna do alot of studying as far as the different commands go...i like using the terminal, just need to learn it better00:51
gypsybloodi remember when i was a kid, on my dads old computer we had to use the command prompt for everything, so i wasnt half bad at it...but thats been about 15 years or so since i had to use that00:52
meditatingfrogmkisofs -R -o cdimage.raw /path-to-certain-VIDEO_TS folder00:53
gypsybloodand the /path-to-certain..etc is like the /home/gypsy/ubuntu......iso right? same thing just to whatever the VIDEO_TS is?00:55
meditatingfrogyes00:56
meditatingfroghere's a command-line i've kept up over the years: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208021/00:56
meditatingfrogcommand-line file00:56
gypsybloodok cool, thnx so much for all your help00:56
meditatingfrog\o00:56
meditatingfrogi mean, see you00:57
gypsybloodand yeah...that iso did burn onto the cd doing it that way00:57
gypsybloodok im off to experiment with trying a dvd now, take it easy, and again, thnx alot00:59
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omfghelphello?13:05
omfghelpanyone hee?13:06
omfghelphere13:06
omfghelplol...13:06
__pem__Just arriving13:06
omfghelpmy windows is crapped out13:07
omfghelpso this ubuntu was on it13:07
omfghelpnow i have no idea how to use linux13:07
omfghelpor install a program13:07
__pem__you should be able to hop on your CD or USBstick that you used for your install13:08
omfghelpno i had this cpu giving to me13:10
omfghelpwith this stuff already installed13:10
Sidewinder1omfghelp, What version on ubuntu?13:10
omfghelpi think 6.1013:11
omfghelpim not sure i dont know much how to navigate around13:11
bagusexit13:11
omfghelpthis is my first time in linux13:11
Sidewinder1omfghelp, Well, if you're correct, 6.10 went "End of Life" 7/14/2009 and is no longer supported; the current versions are 10.04 and 12.04. Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%2913:13
__pem__how did you started your installation?13:14
omfghelpok thanks i will check it out13:14
omfghelpbut i dont know how to install it13:14
gsteinertomfghelp: you'll need to download and burn a live CD for a newer version13:15
Sidewinder1omfghelp, In terms of learning about ubuntu in general, this is a great place to start: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index13:15
gsteinertthe boot from the cd and follow the instructions13:15
omfghelpoh ok13:16
omfghelpso i can update anything till then13:17
omfghelpim trying to get a wireless manager13:17
omfghelpso i dont have to be connected direct13:17
gsteinertomfghelp: your best bet is to start with a fresh install. 6.10 is almost 6 years old. a lot has changed in that time13:17
omfghelpi have no idea13:18
omfghelpi never used linux13:18
Sidewinder1omfghelp, Since you're coming from the windows environment, you might find Lucid Lynx - 10.04 easiest to learn; even though it will go EOL April 2013.13:18
omfghelpwindows took a crap so thatas why i am on this13:18
omfghelpok well thanks guys13:18
Sidewinder1Good luck!13:19
omfghelptake care cyaz13:19
gsteinertomfghelp: or you could try Kubuntu. it's a version of ubuntu that uses the KDE desktop. the KDE desktop is the most similar to windows imho13:19
DiNgL3Anyone able to offer some assistance locking down shared memory19:25
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: i will if i can19:27
DiNgL3Oh brilliant thanks19:27
DiNgL3im trying to secure some of my websites so have been doing some reading and came across this guide http:/​/​www.thefanclub.co.za/​node/​50 I have created a test lamp server updated to 12.04.1 and started following the guide didn't want to do it on my live sites.  I have got to securing the shared memory and im stuck.  I add tmpfs     /dev/shm     tmpfs     defaults,noexec,nosuid     0     0 to the end of /etc/fstab. Once I 19:28
DiNgL3done that I reboot and receive errors upon reboot  - mount: unknown filesystem type tmpfs mountall: mount /dev/shm [312] terminated with status 32 mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted /dev/shm fsck from until-linux 2.20.119:28
DiNgL3I've been getting ddos lots the last few days and need to get my live servers secured ASAP19:29
meditatingfrogi haven't done that before, have you tried #ubuntu-server ?19:29
DiNgL3Hmmm no ill try there and serif I have any luck thank you for looking and trying ;)19:30
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: well give them a shot, and if they can't come back here, someone probably has a lamp server they are setting up.  oh, and try #ubuntu-security19:31
DiNgL3Ah nice one thank you so much19:32
DiNgL3It won't let me in the security one for some reason19:33
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: yeah, it redirects to #ubuntu-hardened, same thing19:34
DiNgL3Cheers19:36
meditatingfrog:) \o19:36
meditatingfrogCheers19:36
DiNgL3No one seems to want to help me with this and I can find very much nine about it either. I really struggle with Linux it's my least confident operating system by a long way I really wish I had become more familiar with it 5 or so years back19:38
DiNgL3meditatingfrog: I'm not getting any luck in the other channels ;(19:54
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: you may have to be patient, it's a weekend :|19:56
DiNgL3meditatingfrog: Yeah that's true I suppose19:56
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: just looked at the error, can you run the mount command that fails in a terminal to see if it works?  maybe it's a "rights" issue19:58
DiNgL3What is the mount command if you look at the guide I was following all I did was add a line of code to /etc/fstab20:06
DiNgL3Sorry if that sounds really noobish but to be honest I am a Linux noob really20:07
meditatingfrogwho isn't?20:09
meditatingfrogno, i'm saying to try the mount command outside of /etc/fstab just to troubleshoot20:09
DiNgL3Ah right what would I type for the command then if I'm putting this at the end of /etc/fstab tmpfs     /dev/shm     tmpfs     defaults,noexec,nosuid     0     020:15
meditatingfrogsudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs20:18
meditatingfrogmake sure there's a "tmpfs" folder20:19
meditatingfrogin fact, i don't think that will work, the 2nd tmpfs *i think* should be a path20:19
meditatingfrogassuming a mount command is the same @ a terminal as in /etc/fstab20:19
DiNgL3One sec I'll try that now and let you know20:27
DiNgL3mount: mount point tmpfs does not exist20:29
meditatingfrogyeah, the 2nd tmpfs needs to be the path to a directory20:30
meditatingfroglike ~/tmpfs or something20:30
meditatingfrogor /home/username/tmpfs20:30
DiNgL3Ok so I need to create a directory?20:57
meditatingfrogany ideas on how to prevent my fluxbox menu from disappearing?  it's fine on a boot, but after i've been working for awhile, suspending and stuff it appears to revert back to the gnome desktop20:57
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: yeah20:57
DiNgL3meditatingfrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209763/21:09
meditatingfrogDiNgL3:  why did you paste that?21:13
DiNgL3So it looks like tmpfs is at /run so I presume I change the line in /etc/fstab21:14
meditatingfrogtmpfs is a type of file system21:20
meditatingfrogi *think*, i mean, that's what the mount -t is doing, -t is type21:21
meditatingfrogDiNgL3: i think what should be the path at the end of the mount command is /run21:22
meditatingfrogso sudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs21:23
meditatingfrogshould be sudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm /run21:23
meditatingfrogbbl21:28
yeehiHello! I need help - I am trying to get an ubuntu server to automatically power up and reboot after a power out21:54
yeehiThe bios settings are ok21:54
yeehibut the system doesn't boot - it just gets to the select a boot option screen21:54
yeehithen it waits21:54
yeehiI thought I would just have to go into Grub and change the timeout settings21:55
yeehibut grub is not installed!21:55
yeehiHow does it ever launch itself?21:55
yeehianyway, should I install grub? or will that interfere with whatever is in there already for starting the system...21:56
meditatingfrogyeehi: it boots under normal conditions though?22:33
yeehiHi meditatingfrog23:06
yeehiI have solved the problem23:06
meditatingfroghi yeehi23:06
yeehiI installed grub!23:06
meditatingfrogcool23:06
yeehiI don't know how I got it to go into the the desktop before...23:07
meditatingfrognever installed grub (i mean, aside from a new install)23:07
yeehiwhat version of ubuntu are you running, meditatingfrog?23:08
meditatingfrog12.0423:10
meditatingfrogwhy?23:10

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