| lanboy | everyone's dc'ing up in here :P | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| penguin42 | ? | 00:26 |
| Monotoko | mornin' all :) | 07:18 |
| guest49026 | hello and good morning! | 08:12 |
| guest49026 | i try to send a "record signal" to zoneminder, but i don't know how. | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | zoneminder? wazzat? | 08:41 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:20 |
| jacobw | hi brobostigon | 09:24 |
| brobostigon | hi jacobw | 09:25 |
| awilkins | I know it's possible to copy packages from one PPA to another, but is it possible to copy packages from normal packaging projects to a PPA targeting a prior release (ie - copy a package from Quantal repository to Precise PPA) | 10:04 |
| === IdleOne is now known as Guest92513 | ||
| popey | awilkins, no | 10:35 |
| awilkins | popey, Thought so, I have taken the alternate tack of making a build recipe targeting Precise | 10:35 |
| awilkins | Which of course, has queued the build I want 8 hours hence :-) | 10:36 |
| Laney | hmm, not sure, the API looks like it allows that | 10:36 |
| Laney | https://api.launchpad.net/devel.html#archive > copyPackage toSeries | 10:36 |
| Laney | to_series | 10:36 |
| popey | wont the packaging need updating? | 10:37 |
| Laney | not necessarily | 10:37 |
| Laney | it breaks if you have something with the same version published already | 10:37 |
| jacobw | not necessarily, if the relationships haven't changed | 10:38 |
| Laney | so won't work to copy to the same PPA :-) | 10:38 |
| popey | yeah, blame czajkowski for the launchpad delays :) | 10:44 |
| popey | (not her fault, but fun to blame her anyway) | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | :( | 10:45 |
| * czajkowski blames popey for taking up all the builds, | 10:46 | |
| czajkowski | ( not entirely true but fun to blane him anyways) | 10:46 |
| === marsilainen_ is now known as marsilainen_work | ||
| marsilainen_work | should it be possible to buy a motherboard with on-board graphics chipset and get ok graphics performance? | 10:47 |
| marsilainen_work | I mean, not ultra-hot gfx performance or anything like that | 10:47 |
| marsilainen_work | but ok enough that e.g. DVD video plays ok | 10:48 |
| marsilainen_work | my current on-board gfx I believe to be Radeon 3000 | 10:48 |
| popey | my desktop is like that, i7 with onboard sandybridge graphics | 10:48 |
| marsilainen_work | ok | 10:48 |
| marsilainen_work | that's good to know | 10:48 |
| popey | it can playback 1080p fine | 10:48 |
| popey | its a crappy msi motherboard | 10:48 |
| marsilainen_work | do you think that intel gfx is the best option if all I want is decent performance? | 10:48 |
| popey | ms-7680 or something | 10:49 |
| popey | decent performance doing what? | 10:49 |
| awilkins | Flatland | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | well, sorry, I mean just ok performance really | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | so that DVD playback works ok etc | 10:49 |
| popey | it runs unity fine :) | 10:49 |
| popey | and video playback is excellent | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | and switching between workspaces is smooth | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | ok | 10:49 |
| AlanBell | intel works fine and is painless | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | sounds good | 10:49 |
| popey | +1 | 10:49 |
| marsilainen_work | think I shall look for something that has intel as replacement | 10:49 |
| popey | i would personally avoid amd/ati onboard | 10:50 |
| AlanBell | nvidea and ati are perhaps better when they work | 10:50 |
| marsilainen_work | yeah, it seems to suck | 10:50 |
| awilkins | Running on the Intel at work (it's an Optimus laptop, but I don't need the GPU performance) | 10:50 |
| AlanBell | but if you are interested in running pre-release ubuntu then you risk ending up with no X for a month or two at a time | 10:50 |
| popey | nah, you can go backwards and make it work | 10:52 |
| * popey dishes up roast dinner | 10:52 | |
| marsilainen_work | I'd forgotten what hell motherboard shopping is like when you haven't kept up with what the latest sockets & CPU types are :) | 10:53 |
| marsilainen_work | wow you can still buy motherboards with parallel ports?? | 10:55 |
| awilkins | Presumably for people who're still rockin' the line printer | 10:55 |
| awilkins | Green stripe fanfold 4tw | 10:56 |
| marsilainen_work | lol | 10:57 |
| popey | in my first proper job i had to operate a burster and a decollator to separate out multi-part carbon-impression print jobs into individual pieces of paper. that was fun | 11:21 |
| penguin42 | that must have been messy at the end of the day | 11:22 |
| popey | the carbon got wound round spindles, which you just yank off and chuck in the bin | 11:24 |
| * penguin42 is liking vimium | 11:39 | |
| popey | quiet today | 15:11 |
| * Laney bangs some pots | 15:12 | |
| * popey makes tea | 15:13 | |
| * pinky- opens a tin | 15:13 | |
| Laney | of baked beans? | 15:17 |
| pinky- | lentil n carrot soup | 15:17 |
| Laney | mm | 15:17 |
| * Laney ponders making soup for dinner | 15:17 | |
| Laney | got some beetroot that i'll never use otherwise ... | 15:18 |
| * popey has tea and digestive biccy | 15:19 | |
| * popey wonders if xbmc can do iplayer | 15:20 | |
| popey | yay, xbmc box upgraded to 12.10 | 15:22 |
| hamitron | only 1 biccy? :/ | 15:22 |
| popey | yeah, nearly tea time | 15:22 |
| * penguin42 just had a couple of choc digestives :-) | 15:22 | |
| hamitron | it must be tea time, if you are having tea? | 15:22 |
| popey | pate for tea i think | 15:23 |
| hamitron | think I'll probably be having a Sunday Roast | 15:24 |
| popey | i did that for lunch | 15:24 |
| popey | nommy stuffed chicken | 15:24 |
| hamitron | :D | 15:24 |
| hamitron | tbh, it wasn't gonna be a great outcome for the chicken whatever you did, when it is getting cooked | 15:25 |
| popey | something very wrong with this acer revo | 15:25 |
| popey | unity wont start | 15:25 |
| hamitron | bonus? | 15:25 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209111/ | 15:26 |
| popey | that doesn't look good | 15:26 |
| popey | oh, that'll be my xorg.conf | 15:26 |
| * popey fixes that | 15:26 | |
| popey | erk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209113/ | 15:27 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1033404 | 15:28 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1033404 in Compiz "[GLES] [nvidia] ./bin/compiz (opengl) - Error: FBO is incomplete: GL::FRAMEBUFFER_UNSUPPORTED (0x8cdd)" [High,Fix released] | 15:28 |
| * popey adds unity staging ppa | 15:29 | |
| popey | 5 is too many computers to be fiddling with at once | 15:30 |
| popey | wheee, new(er) compiz | 15:31 |
| popey | \o/ unity desktop | 15:38 |
| popey | huzzah | 15:38 |
| popey | hmm, xbmc dies when i try to play some content | 15:40 |
| popey | bah, nvidia driver got removed in the upgrade | 15:43 |
| popey | $fun | 15:44 |
| * mattt is watching the reading game and reading about the peewee ORM | 15:44 | |
| penguin42 | popey: Binary drivers (for both nvidia and AMD) seem to have been a bit late to settle down in this cycle | 15:44 |
| === Guest92513 is now known as IdleOne | ||
| popey | yeah | 15:51 |
| penguin42 | oh, which reminds me, I must do an update on my vm and see whether llvmpipe is usable yet | 15:52 |
| popey | virtualbox? | 15:53 |
| penguin42 | kvm | 15:53 |
| penguin42 | popey: I installed the beta in a vm last week, Unity was pretty fast but unusably crashy | 15:54 |
| popey | bah, xbmc on 12.10 just craps out whenever I play a video | 16:01 |
| * popey tries totem/vlc/mplayer/anything else | 16:01 | |
| penguin42 | dragon? | 16:02 |
| popey | so glad we didnt use nautilus/files/whatever 3.6 | 16:02 |
| popey | wow, unity is painfully slow on this ion nvidia thing | 16:04 |
| penguin42 | popey: does that have 3d accel ? | 16:05 |
| popey | glxinfo suggests yes | 16:05 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209191 | 16:05 |
| popey | but the UI is doing like 1fps when doing various effects | 16:06 |
| * penguin42 manages to type blind enough into the corrupted console on his vm to login and sudo apt-get install openssh-server | 16:06 | |
| shauno | trying to convert vm disk images that are almost too big for my laptop, is quite a juggling act :/ | 16:25 |
| penguin42 | popey: It's incredibly slow in llvm-pipe on kvm as well | 16:26 |
| popey | grr. vdpau seems to not work on 12.10 in xbmc, mplayer or vlc | 16:44 |
| popey | ok, this is messed up | 16:48 |
| popey | I'm getting 8fps from glxgears, and the glxgears box is just a black window | 16:48 |
| * popey remembers there's an identical device on his mums network.. | 16:53 | |
| * popey ssh's to get the xorg.conf from it | 16:53 | |
| penguin42 | does it need a config? | 16:53 |
| popey | for nvidia, yeah | 16:53 |
| popey | just want to see what the difference is | 16:54 |
| popey | this is unbelievebly slow | 16:54 |
| popey | like it's using llvmpipe | 16:54 |
| * Seeker` decides to skip 12.10 for now... | 16:54 | |
| penguin42 | nvidia on +1 is supposed to be able to use xrandr isn't it? | 16:54 |
| popey | nvidia on 12.04 can | 16:54 |
| popey | but not the full 1.3 spec aiui | 16:54 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209287/ mums xorg.conf | 16:55 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209289/ mine | 16:56 |
| popey | blagged from online.. | 16:56 |
| ali1234 | nvidia has been able to do xrandr for years | 16:56 |
| popey | nothing odd in there | 16:57 |
| ali1234 | just not any part that involves multiple monitors | 16:57 |
| * popey files a bug | 16:58 | |
| popey | slowly | 16:58 |
| popey | bug 1051640 | 17:03 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1051640 in Unity "Desktop performance unusably slow on nVidia ION" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051640 | 17:03 |
| Laney | phwoar | 17:16 |
| Laney | peeling cooked beetroot under the cold tap and then chopping it up has got to be one of the most pleasing cooking tasks | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | Laney: smelly ? | 17:17 |
| Laney | smells like beetroot | 17:17 |
| Laney | i wouldn't call that smelly | 17:17 |
| Laney | most people are more concerned about the staining :P | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | I dont eat it | 17:23 |
| czajkowski | and avoid the staining | 17:23 |
| Laney | for some reason the veg box and the father keep resupplying me, even though i'm not massively keen on them | 17:26 |
| Laney | the fun of cooking makes it alright though | 17:26 |
| czajkowski | how do you cook them ? | 17:28 |
| pinky- | all you need is parsley! | 17:28 |
| Laney | oven | 17:31 |
| Laney | but the skin just comes off in your hands after they are cooked | 17:31 |
| Laney | it is most delightful | 17:31 |
| czajkowski | lovely | 17:39 |
| czajkowski | purple hands :p | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | Hi peeps | 18:11 |
| christel | hi hi bigcalm | 18:13 |
| popey | yo | 18:14 |
| bigcalm | Hey hey :) | 18:14 |
| bigcalm | 3 day week, not sure if I'll cope | 18:16 |
| bigcalm | popey: fixed your router? | 18:16 |
| popey | rebooted it :) | 18:16 |
| andylockran | hey all | 18:16 |
| andylockran | popey: have you ever had success with that dongle method on a PS3? | 18:16 |
| popey | i dont own a ps3, so no | 18:16 |
| andylockran | ok | 18:17 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 18:17 |
| bootinfdsds | I heard kickstarter was coming to the UK in September ... is this a myth ? | 18:22 |
| zleap | Off topic a bit, does anyone know if MS word 2007 or above can save as PDF in the same way as Libreoffice can | 18:28 |
| zleap | i am doing a poster in libreoffice, to send to local youth centre, i know full well if they send me it back havng been modified in word it gets all messed up at my end | 18:29 |
| popey | why not send it to them as a pdf and ask for comments in an email rather than let them edit it directly? | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | zleap: Generally exporting from libreoffice to Word tends to get messy | 18:35 |
| popey | bootinfdsds, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18780184 | 18:38 |
| popey | hmm, trying to fix a nerf gun | 18:46 |
| popey | which has been left outside, so some of the screws are rusty, hard to get out :( | 18:46 |
| Laney | :( | 18:51 |
| Laney | my blender broke mid soup blending | 18:51 |
| penguin42 | Laney: You beet the life out of it | 18:51 |
| stgraber | /win 40 | 18:53 |
| bigcalm | New channel topic I think is due | 19:06 |
| Azelphur | Here's a fun question. I have game server files on my server, and I run 5 instances of the server all off the same set of files, using command line arguments to change the configuration of each instance of the server, all good | 19:07 |
| Azelphur | but, I want to change a specific file, for one server and none of the others | 19:08 |
| Azelphur | any ideas short of making a copy of the whole thing to change one file? | 19:08 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Depending how many files, you could create a hard linked copy of most of it | 19:09 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: how many files in the server? probably like 400 or something, one of which I want to change xD | 19:09 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: I'd script something to make a hardlinked copy of it | 19:10 |
| Azelphur | fun | 19:15 |
| bootinfdsds | popey, [Kickstarter.co.uk] Yeah I thnk I'll email them about it , and ask. I can't wait to see the British Public videos of online begging begin. | 19:17 |
| Laney | !info hardlink | 19:35 |
| lubotu3 | hardlink (source: hardlink): Hardlinks multiple copies of the same file. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.1 (precise), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB | 19:35 |
| Laney | Azelphur: ^ | 19:35 |
| Azelphur | this concept confuses me xD | 19:35 |
| Laney | or there is cp -l | 19:36 |
| Laney | then make the file you want to change not a hardlink, and profit | 19:36 |
| Azelphur | fun | 19:37 |
| Azelphur | what's the difference between a soft and a hard link? | 19:37 |
| Laney | http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html is probably a better explanation than i can give on irc | 19:39 |
| Azelphur | fun | 19:40 |
| jacobw | a softlink is a link to somewhere else in the path, a hard link is a link to somewhere else in this specific filesystem | 20:25 |
| mattt | jacobw: huh? | 20:38 |
| * christel yawns | 20:46 | |
| brobostigon | /me injects christel with caffeine. | 20:47 |
| * brobostigon injects christel with caffeine. | 20:47 | |
| christel | <3 brobostigon | 20:47 |
| brobostigon | christel: :) | 20:47 |
| === AlanBell is now known as zAlanBell | ||
| zAlanBell | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1906/detail/ farnham \o/ | 21:08 |
| christel | i practised by consuming alcohol in vast quantities yesterday | 21:09 |
| * christel nods | 21:09 | |
| Laney | (very) happy (few) hour(s)? http://www.beerfestival.nottinghamcamra.org/ | 21:09 |
| christel | beerfests \o/ | 21:10 |
| brobostigon | woop :) | 21:11 |
| === zAlanBell is now known as AlanBell | ||
| Azelphur | here's a fun question, Does anyone actually have a nice multiple presence setup on various IM networks? It seems like the networks themselves handle multiple presence poorly, if at all. :( | 21:11 |
| brobostigon | christel: last one, at my local, was meant to only be a weekend, and it lasted 5 days. | 21:12 |
| christel | fantastic | 21:12 |
| brobostigon | christel: definatly, :) | 21:12 |
| brobostigon | christel: he ober bought the beer. | 21:13 |
| brobostigon | over* | 21:13 |
| christel | fantastic | 21:14 |
| christel | bring me to the next one! | 21:14 |
| brobostigon | christel: how does banbury sound, ? | 21:14 |
| christel | excellent! it is not too far away | 21:15 |
| brobostigon | yay o/ | 21:15 |
| brobostigon | christel: i will keep you informed, :) | 21:15 |
| christel | \o/ | 21:15 |
| brobostigon | \o/ | 21:16 |
| brobostigon | christel: in which, you would become, the third genius engineer, including myself and directhex in this area. | 21:20 |
| christel | woop | 21:22 |
| brobostigon | sorry, bad joke. | 21:22 |
| christel | :P | 21:23 |
| brobostigon | :) | 21:23 |
| brobostigon | christel: i was talking of myself. | 21:25 |
| brobostigon | is there a scale, of engineering skill? | 21:27 |
| bigcalm | Is that how many beers you can social engineer out of other people? | 21:32 |
| bigcalm | Why's it gone so quiet? | 21:56 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 21:56 |
| zleap | not sure its getting late here (UK) | 21:57 |
| brobostigon | 22:57 | 21:57 |
| zleap | yeah | 21:57 |
| bigcalm | 23:00 almost. I really don't want to go to work tomorrow | 21:57 |
| bigcalm | I'm still making object classes for a API calls | 21:58 |
| bigcalm | Slow and tedious work | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | http://opensource.apple.com/source/WebKit/WebKit-7533.16/chromium/src/x11/WebScreenInfoFactory.cpp | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | aaaaaaaaaaargh | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | no multimonitor support *at all* | 22:28 |
| brobostigon | nos da everyone, sleep well. | 22:34 |
| ali1234 | chrome determines the screen size by looking into the Display struct using X11 macros. can't patch macros :( | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | however i can probably just change the value in the struct, or patch XOpenDisplay and return something different | 23:54 |
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