[06:19]  * Kilos waves 
[06:59] <Kilos> toods chanserv
[07:54] <Kilos> superfly, must that script drop into ibid.plugins.txt or ibid.plugins.html
[07:54] <Kilos> morning
[07:55] <superfly> Morning Kilos
[07:56] <superfly> Kilos: you need to find a directory called ibid, and then another directory inside it called plugins, and then you drop it in there as greeter.py
[07:56] <superfly> if it's not a .py file, ibid will not pick it up.
[07:57] <superfly> Then you need to run ibid, and tell it, "load greeter"
[07:59]  * Kilos looks
[08:00] <superfly> Kilos: where is your ibid.ini?
[08:00] <Kilos> in home superfly 
[08:00] <Kilos> with ibid.db
[08:02] <superfly> right, then make a directory called "ibid" in there.
[08:02] <Kilos> done
[08:04] <Kilos> and one called ibid.plugin in that one?
[08:05] <superfly> No, one called "plugins"
[08:05] <Kilos> ah ty
[08:05] <Kilos> and drop the script into it?
[08:06] <superfly> And then put your greeter.py in there
[08:06] <Kilos> ok so lemme just make sure
[08:07] <Kilos> in the folder ibid i put the one called plugins, and drop the script into plugins
[08:07] <superfly> Yes
[08:07] <Kilos> what about the files ibid.ini and ibid.db
[08:08] <superfly> What about them?
[08:08] <Kilos> must they stay as is or also go into ibid folder?
[08:09] <superfly> I don't recall talking about them, only you mentioned them.
[08:11] <Kilos> lol. i just wondered if they should also go in the ibid folder
[08:11] <Kilos> ty very much
[08:11] <Kilos> apartheid is dead you know
[08:14] <superfly> bwahahaha
[08:14] <Kilos> hi amanica
[08:20] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed , i see debdelta is in the repos. must it be configured or just installed and everything is auto from there
[08:28] <tumbleweed> Kilos: it's been in the repositories for a long time, but nobody is providing a debdelta server, that I know of
[08:29] <Kilos> aw. 
[08:30] <Kilos> we need to speak to Symmetria 
[08:34] <Kilos> Symmetria, ping
[08:37] <Kilos> hmm
[09:46] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[09:46] <Cantide> hello '-'
[10:03] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[10:03] <Kerbero> dag
[10:06] <Squirm> hello
[10:28] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:29] <Kilos> ChanServ, wb
[10:30] <Cantide> :D
[10:45] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:45] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[10:45] <sakhi> afternoon 
[10:46] <magespawn> how everyone's sunday?
[10:46] <Cantide> hi magespawn :)
[10:46] <Kilos> cool
[10:46] <Cantide> awesome so far :) :) :)
[10:46] <Cantide> and yours?
[10:46] <Kilos> max 16°c today
[10:46] <sakhi> max 32 in cpt
[10:47] <Kilos> aw swop sakhi 
[10:47] <sakhi>  *2 
[10:47] <magespawn> was raining a bit here, had break so took the family down to the river, so pretty awesome too
[10:47] <sakhi> I think its going to rain tomorrow though.
[10:48] <magespawn> let me check the weather here brb
[10:49] <Kilos> hehe
[10:50] <Kerbero> 33 in stellenbosch
[10:50] <Kerbero> lekker temperatuur
[10:50] <Kilos> lovely
[10:51] <Kerbero> http://weather.sun.ac.za/?p=webcam
[10:51] <magespawn> http://www.iweathar.co.za/display.php?s_id=79
[10:51] <Kilos> lol
[10:52] <Cantide> nice and cool in Durbs for a change :p
[10:52] <Cantide> i even got covered head to toe in mud :)
[10:52] <Kilos> haha
[10:53] <Cantide> hill2hill
[10:53] <magespawn> good for the skin
[10:53] <Cantide> was fun :)
[10:53] <Cantide> yeah, haha
[10:57] <magespawn> typical geeks, can't just talk about the weather, have to put up links.
[10:57] <Kilos> rofl
[12:20] <superfly> feels in the 30s here in the deep south too
[12:59] <smile> :)
[15:08] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[15:09] <not_found> hi uncle Kilos 
[15:29] <Kilos> Squirm, you here?
[15:48] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[15:48] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:00] <Kilos> what does one use to start kubuntu from the terminal
[16:00] <Kilos> sudo gdm start on gnome
[16:00] <Kilos> old gnome
[16:01] <Kilos> ians kubuntu 11.10 wont get past entering password
[17:05] <Trixar_za> You hear what GNOME is planning?
[17:05] <Trixar_za> To create their own OS named GNOME OS
[17:05] <Trixar_za> To fix issues they have with their API
[17:05] <Trixar_za> Somehow their logic is questionable...
[18:01] <superfly> hehehe
[18:03] <superfly> gnome needs to rewrite gtk in C++ and then rewrite all their apparently in C++ to match in order to fix issues in their API - C was never meant to have objects
[18:11] <nuvolari> I loved gnome... but I don't know what on earth they are doing at the moment. Keeping distance for a while :P
[18:11] <Cantide> i like the gnome stack
[18:11] <Cantide> that's about it
[18:13] <Kilos> sighs
[18:19] <Kilos> greeter works kiff superfly ty
[18:20] <Kilos> naand nuvolari 
[18:22] <superfly> if you ever have to look at the code required to do GTK apps, you'll want to run and hide. it is hideously awfully painfully disgusting. it offends the developer in me.
[18:22] <superfly> by contrast, working with Qt's flavour of C++ is like living the dream
[18:25] <Squirm> Kilos: I am now
[18:26] <Kilos> lol i just wanted to check if there was anything else to add in to sudo passwd
[18:27] <Squirm> 'spose you figured it out?
[18:28] <Kilos> nope the password didnt change
[18:28] <Kilos> its kubuntu by ian
[18:28] <Kilos> wouldnt get past password
[18:28] <Squirm> sudo passwd would change root's password, sudo passwd <username> would change username's password and passwd would change your user's password
[18:29] <Kilos> ty Squirm 
[18:30] <Squirm> if you're unsure
[18:30] <Squirm> sudo passwd <username>
[18:31] <Kilos> ty Squirm 
[18:31] <Kilos> hi Banlam 
[18:31] <Banlam> heya Kilos
[18:31] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos  :)
[18:31] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed vanaand oom?
[18:32] <Kilos> ja dankie en daar
[18:32] <Squirm> bed time for me
[18:32] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom :>
[18:32] <Kilos> sleep tight Squirm 
[18:32] <nuvolari> night Squirm 
[18:32] <Squirm> I should consider twice when I go out on a Sunday evening
[18:34] <Kilos> still wanna try ibid on jabber
[18:38] <superfly> Kilos: a login screen is a login screen. if he can log into gnome he should be able to log into kde
[18:38] <Kilos> he has kubuntu
[18:39] <Kilos> but it keeps wanting password and wont go past that
[18:39] <Kilos> starts the gui then stops i think he said
[18:39] <superfly> Kilos: kubuntu or Ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package installed?
[18:40] <Kilos> kubuntu 11.10 from a cd
[18:40] <superfly> Kilos: I need more info than that
[18:40] <Kilos> he hasnt updated yet no connection
[18:40] <Kilos> he is running it alongside xp
[18:41] <superfly> what do you mean "stops"
[18:41] <Kilos> im trying to find out now
[18:41] <Kilos> i also asked him if it goes back to prompt but he never answered
[18:43] <superfly> Kilos: how long is a piece of string?
[18:43] <Kilos>  Iany: it starts to load, going into the loading page before the desktop, then gets half way, I see that by the icons that appear and kicks back to user name password page
[18:45] <superfly> Kilos: he can try dropping down to the command line and reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package
[18:45] <Kilos> it says package not found
[18:47] <superfly> it does, kubuntu doesn't exist without it
[18:48] <superfly> spell it right
[18:48] <Kilos> or latest one installed i think
[18:48] <Kilos> he is trying again
[18:48] <Kilos> we tried lots of things
[18:48] <superfly> and "reinstall" not install
[18:49] <Kilos> he hasnt installed aptitude  so it apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall hey
[18:50] <superfly> uh, maybe. I'm not at my over right now
[18:50] <superfly> PC not over
[18:50] <superfly> stupid autocorrect
[18:50] <Kilos> it is already the newest version
[18:51] <Kilos> im sure it is reinstall after package
[18:51] <Kilos> --reinstall
[18:52] <Kilos>  not possible, it cannot be downloaded
[18:52] <superfly> it comes on the cd
[18:53] <Kilos> and then how we do it
[18:53] <Kilos> is there a gdebi goody in kubuntu
[18:53] <superfly> and you can reinstall it, I just did it the other day when I had those problems, remember?
[18:54] <Kilos> the reinstall command wants to go online superfly 
[18:54] <Kilos> not net at home there
[18:54] <superfly> put the cd in 
[18:54] <Kilos> yes
[18:55] <superfly> make sure you have the CD in your sources.list file (it's usually the firs line)
[18:56] <Kilos> how will he see that if he cant boot
[18:57] <superfly> he *can* boot, he just can't log into kde. there's an option on the login screen to log in on the console
[18:58] <Kilos> ah ok ill tell him
[18:58] <superfly> this is not windows!
[18:59] <Kilos> its his work server he is trying to add kubuntu to to check if he can get the dvr cards working
[19:00] <magespawn> evening all
[19:00] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[19:01] <Kilos> go see QP
[19:01] <superfly> hi magespawn 
[19:01] <magespawn> hey superfly, Kilos
[19:02] <magespawn> Kilos your channel is in my core, so i never leave with out disconnecting
[19:02] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:03] <Kilos> you mean you dont disconnect
[19:03] <Kilos> just go away
[19:03] <Kilos> grayed out
[19:03] <magespawn> yup
[19:03] <magespawn> brb
[19:04] <Kilos> well sometime go there as koos or something
[19:06] <Kilos> any: log in screen is the page where you put username password correct?
[19:06] <Kilos> (21:05:45) Miley: ya
[19:07] <Kilos> if yes there is an arrow pointing down
[19:07] <Kilos> default
[19:07] <Kilos> kde plasma work place
[19:08] <Kilos> fail safe previous
[19:09] <Kilos> eish
[19:09] <Kilos> can't find my 11CD I put it somewhere today
[19:09] <Kilos> never mind superfly sorry for the hassles
[19:10] <superfly> Kilos: there is more than one menu... there's another one that says to do a console login
[19:10] <Kilos> maybe they hidden superfly 
[19:10] <Kilos> need to do the 10 second bit
[19:20] <Kilos> superfly, Iany: yes and I'm in the console prompt
[19:23] <Kilos>  Iany: right I've logged in
[19:23] <magespawn> back
[19:24] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[19:26] <superfly> Kilos: he needs to edit his /etc/apt/sources.list file (he can use nano) and make sure it contains a line at the top for the CD
[19:27] <Kilos> whew
[19:27] <Kilos> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:27] <Kilos> is that right
[19:31] <Kilos> he remembers min. he only got 20% of his lungs left so brain runs on min oxygen
[19:34] <Kilos> he says the top line is for cdrom superfly 
[19:54] <superfly> Kilos: eish, does he have one of those asthma pumps? I think you can get them over the counter
[19:54] <superfly> Kilos: he can put a # in front of the http lines, and then apt-get update with the CD in and it'll index the CD
[19:54] <Kilos> he is on meds now but the doc says it will take 2 years to heal
[19:54] <superfly> eish, OK
[19:55] <Kilos> some bird virus that destroyed his lungs
[19:56] <Kilos> been there for years
[19:56] <Kilos> but he left it till he could hardly breathe before going to doc
[19:56] <Kilos> breathes in little puffs
[20:00] <Kilos> ok he is doing that
[20:00] <Kilos> Iany: there are hundreds of these http lines, on how many must I do it?
[20:00] <Kilos> hehe
[20:01] <Kilos> and can I do it from 12.04 CD? using 11.10 installation
[20:01] <Kilos> eish
[20:01] <Kilos> 11.10 cd is at work
[20:01] <Kilos> i give up
[20:04] <magespawn> hectic stuff
[20:04] <magespawn> bit hard to conjure the right cd up
[20:04] <Kilos> ya he sukkels to remember what to put where
[20:05] <Kilos> its the work server so he thought he would take it home and try the dvr cards while he has time
[20:05] <Kilos> days too hectic
[20:07] <magespawn> i forget things all the time and i think i healthy
[20:07] <magespawn> so it is understandable
[20:07] <Kilos> hehe
[20:07] <Kilos> now his shift key dont work
[20:07] <Kilos> grrr
[20:07] <magespawn> write things down make a list and still get distracted
[20:08] <Kilos> yeah he loses where he wrote things down to do
[20:09] <Kilos> how you make a hash without the shift keys working
[20:09] <Kilos> that pc be sick methinks
[20:09] <magespawn> i am off to bed night all good luck Kilos
[20:10] <Kilos> ty magespawn sleep tight
[20:14] <Kilos> changed keyboard
[20:21] <Kilos> hes falling asleep too. he says ty superfly . will do it at work if he gets time
[20:21] <Kilos> . sleep tight all