[00:00] <tortib> Hello everyone, how do I restart the network device in ubuntu?
[00:01] <histo> tortib: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:01] <Cheapshot> ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up
[00:01] <histo> tortib: or sudo service networking restart
[00:01] <stercor> can I upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.1?  If so, what´s the command?
[00:01] <histo> !upgrade | stercor
[00:02] <urgodfather> szal, but then how would you know that the response isnt something just easily picked up by a friendly user who took the liberty to search it in google than regurgitated the collected information vs someone who knows the correct answoer from experience
[00:02] <tortib> $ sudo service networking restart restart: Unknown instance:
[00:02] <wrapids> IT's stil doing it with the alt cd
[00:02] <wrapids> imguring a pic of it, gimme a sec
[00:03] <histo> tortib: just sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:03] <tortib> got it thanks
[00:04] <histo> tortib: although either command should work
[00:04] <Cheapshot> tortib do you just want to restart the connectionts or? For that use sudo ifdown -a and to get it up use sudo ifup -a
[00:04] <Cheapshot> that takes down and back up all the network interfaces
[00:05] <tortib> yeah /etc/init.d/networking restart was the better choice
[00:05] <tortib> thanks
[00:05] <szal> urgodfather: if you're so anal about that, you could as well ask in #konversation
[00:06] <shaladore> Cheapshot: sorry was reading emails.. Well Junk mail... But it won't let me edit the connections and it doesn't even say there is a connection when i get in there the hard way
[00:06] <histo> tortib: I think it may have to be sudo service networking --restart
[00:07] <wrapids> I get this: http://tinypic.com/r/14upf4/6 Every time I try to install ubuntu. With/without alternative install disc
[00:07] <histo> tortib: both accomplish the same thing though
[00:07] <urgodfather> szal, my point is... anyone can do a google search. not everyone has experience in that said topic. so maybe a preliminary question would be in order so that you can identify those with experience/ disqualify those without. either way, i resolved the issue thanks to an unnamed user how happened to chat message me purely b/c i ask "does anyone use konversation...?"
[00:07] <shaladore> cheapshot: gives error when i try to see connection info.
[00:07] <histo> wrapids: do you get anything before that such as the grub menu?
[00:08] <wrapids> histo: This is on a new install, I get the menu for "boot from cd, live boot, blah blah". With alt version I get the Ubuntu - - - - splash screen.
[00:08] <urgodfather> szal, clearly you know ALL about the term anal.
[00:08] <wrapids> After those, it goes into this.
[00:08] <histo> wrapids: on the splash screen you can push F6 for more options right?
[00:08] <histo> wrapids: there's a vga safe option I can't remember the name of it
[00:09] <szal> urgodfather: no need to get personal, now stop bragging already
[00:11] <Cheapshot> shaladore try if editing /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and turn "managed=false" to "managed=true
[00:11] <juan_> #ubuntu-es
[00:12] <Cheapshot> and do a sudo service network-manager restart
[00:12] <juan_> hola
[00:12] <szal> !es | juan_
[00:12] <shaladore> I seem to be missing that directory
[00:13] <Cheapshot> you dont find the networkmanager.conf?
[00:13] <DG_> Hey guys, is it possible to have a live wallpaper like on android?
[00:13] <DG_> i heard it was but im not sure if it's true
[00:13] <shaladore> hola juan.. englasho
[00:13] <shaladore> sp?
[00:13] <wrapids> histo: f6 is taking me to a command line that shows \the progress of the splash
[00:13] <shaladore> been a long time since i typed spanish
[00:14] <shaladore> I don't find the directory NetworkManager
[00:14] <DG_> !ot
[00:14] <Cheapshot> wrapids when you boot to the ubuntu menu press f6 and turn acpi=off and add line --vga=791 in the end of the command line
[00:14] <Cheapshot> and then boot it
[00:15] <shaladore> I do think something might not of installed correctly
[00:15] <Cheapshot> shaladore did you type it exactly NetworkManager
[00:16] <airshock> Hello all Ubuntu users, I'm new to getting help in IRC but wanted to see if I could throw my question out there and see if anyone could help. I'm running Ubnut Server 12.04 x86-64 and am trying to build Apache from source, but am getting an error. It reads, "openssl/opensslv.h not found", and "OpenSSL version is too old". But running the command "openssl version" shows 1.0.1 or something like that. Not sure how to solve this issue.
[00:16] <Cheapshot> try cd / etc/
[00:16] <shaladore> tried upper lower and abbrevated.
[00:16] <Cheapshot> and ls
[00:16] <Mitsu> airshock: you need to install the development headers for openssl probably
[00:16] <szal> Cheapshot: you can't put 2 paths in the cd command ;)
[00:17] <shaladore> ahh found it.. hold one
[00:17] <wrapids> Cheapshot: thanks a bunc, acpi workarounds did the trick
[00:17] <Mitsu> airshock: try installing libssl-dev
[00:17] <airshock> Mitsu: Would that be openssl-dev? On CentOS its openssl-devel but not sure what it is on Ubuntu.
[00:18] <Mitsu> it'd be something like that, yeah. i think you need the development headers to build software that depends on it.
[00:18] <airshock> Mitsu: just saw your MSG, trying to install that now.
[00:18] <Mitsu> i think it's libssl-dev if i'm not mistaken
[00:18] <shaladore> that did it.. glad it was something simple.. thanks Cheapshot.
[00:18] <shaladore> I hate being a noob..
[00:19] <Cheapshot> shaladore It worked? nice
[00:19] <airshock> Mitsu: That worked, and now Apache is building without any issues. Thanks for the help. :)
[00:19] <shaladore> Yeppers thanks again Cheapshot.. is there anything that i can find use look up about more on ubuntu and server?
[00:20] <shaladore> or just linux in general?
[00:20] <Mitsu> your welcome airshock, glad i could help!
[00:20] <Mitsu> you're*
[00:24] <Cheapshot> shaladore Ubuntu forums have tons of good tutorials and howto's + a nice wiki for basics
[00:24] <Areckx> In Ubuntu 10.04, I use a logitech m510 wireless mouse. It worked fine, but just now, it isn't really working. It is moving in reverse, and in only small increments. I just replaced the batteries, and the side-buttons work(I have them set to zoom in compiz)
[00:24] <Daniel_> do i need a swap partition if i have 6gb of ram?
[00:24] <shaladore> yeah I went to the ubuntu.com and was checking out things.
[00:25] <Daniel_> i am dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu
[00:26] <firewyre> -s couples seduce 23
[00:26] <Mitsu> Daniel_: by default, hibernate will be disabled if you don't have a dedicated swap partition.
[00:26] <Cheapshot> Areckx Is there anyway you could confirm that the problem only appears on ubuntu?
[00:27] <taixzo> Is it possible to add a directory to $PATH containing the '%' character?
[00:27] <Cheapshot> Areckx Because it sounds a bit like there is a actualy hardware problem with the mouse
[00:27] <Daniel_> Mitsu: can i still suspend?
[00:27] <Daniel_> i have a laptop
[00:27] <Mitsu> Daniel_: yeah, but not hibernate.
[00:28] <Daniel_> Mitsu: by default, when i close the laptop lid does it hybernate or suspend?
[00:28] <Deutopia> suspend
[00:28] <Mitsu> it is possible to hibernate without a swap partition, but it requires extra setup.
[00:28] <Mitsu> Daniel_: ubuntu will only hibernate by default if your battery is about to give.
[00:29] <Areckx> Cheapshot::  I will try next time my room mate is around
[00:29] <Daniel_> ok thanks so basically this is the first time installing ubuntu and i want to dual boot it with windows, but my hp laptop has already 4 paritions
[00:30] <Mitsu> Daniel_: if that's the case you can create an "extended partition"
[00:30] <Cheapshot> Areckx I'd start solving the problem by cleaning the laser lense first
[00:31] <Mitsu> Daniel_: an extended partition can contain sub-partitions.
[00:31] <Daniel_> but i still need to deleter one of the paritions right?
[00:32] <Deutopia> you can use wubi and install linux like a windows app
[00:32] <Mitsu> Daniel_: just make all ubuntu-related partitions "logical" partitions instead of "primary" and make them all side-by-side next to eachother.
[00:32] <Cheapshot> Areckx Also on wireless mouses  a wifi router can actually cause problems if they are close to each other (i know its far fetched but i've seen it happen :) )
[00:32] <Daniel_> yes but can i have 4 primary partitions + and extended parition?
[00:33] <Cheapshot> I mean the receiver and router being close eachother
[00:33] <Mitsu> Daniel_: shrink your windows partition to make room for ubuntu, and then in the free space you created, create the ubuntu partition and the swap partition as logical partitions.
[00:33] <Mitsu> why do you have 4 primary partitions?
[00:34] <Mitsu> MBR-formatted hard drives can't have more than 4
[00:34] <Mitsu> and if you have 4 primary partitions you can't have any logical/extended partitions
[00:34] <Areckx> Cheapshot::  I tested it on my friend's Win7 machine and it had the same problem
[00:34] <Areckx> Cheapshot::  it worked fine until just today, do you thin kit is something wrong with the mouse?
[00:35] <Xubuntu> Hi
[00:35] <Xubuntu> Plis help me
[00:35] <Daniel_> hp_tools, recovery, c, system
[00:36] <Guest8784> Help me please
[00:36] <Guest8784> Algum brasileiro por aqui ?
[00:36] <Cheapshot> Areckx Ok so first clean the lense hole from the bottom with something, if doesnt help swap it to another usb port-> and if nothing works and it doesnt have any warranty left you could always open it and check if the laser module isnt loose
[00:37] <Cheapshot> A single hair on the lense makes the mouse go wild
[00:37] <Guest8784> I installed Compiz and emerald in xubuntu, but i cat drag window
[00:37] <Guest8784> the window is block
[00:38] <Guest8784> Help me
[00:39] <Cheapshot> Guest8784 try #xubuntu
[00:40] <unless__> Hey I just created a ssh-keygen -t rsa and I need it to have open access to localhost, then I 've copied like cat id_rsa.put >> authorized_keys and first time I log it asks my password but it keeps asking always. How do I eliminate the need of password for a localhost user?
[00:40] <Mitsu> Daniel_: what is hp_tools?
[00:41] <Daniel_> i am not sure
[00:41] <Daniel_> i am afraid to delete it though
[00:41] <Mitsu> try looking inside?
[00:41] <Daniel_> i thing i am deleting recovery
[00:41] <Mitsu> do you have windows 7, Daniel_?
[00:41] <Daniel_> yes mitsu
[00:42] <Cheapshot> Daniel_ Im making a wild assumption that you have a prebuild hp computer and the hp_tools contain the recovery files for hp's windows 7
[00:42] <Daniel_> probably
[00:42] <Cheapshot> and you werent shipped with a windows 7 disc
[00:42] <Mitsu> i think you can go ahead and delete the HP partitions. if you want to reinstall windows, just download it and use your activation key printed on the sticker on your computer.
[00:42] <Mitsu> the windows 7 disc is downloadable.
[00:43] <Daniel_> ok after i delete the hp_tools?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> has to be the oem though most likely.
[00:43] <Daniel_> do i create a new primary or extended parition?
[00:43] <bobweaver> unless__,  you need to change /etc/ssh/sshd and ssh conf file's uncomment the lines and put yes for suth
[00:43] <bobweaver> auth *
[00:43] <bobweaver> unless__,  I made a video
[00:44] <Mitsu> create an extended partition, and inside create a 6GB swap partition and fill the remaining space with an ext4 partition.
[00:44] <unless__> bobweaver, where is it ?
[00:44] <Deutopia> don't rely on the HP recovery disk maker. i've seen those things fail time and time again. (Eg; the recovery disks made by my gateway laptop don't work for that laptop)
[00:44] <Guest8784> Help me compiz fusion
[00:44] <Mitsu> then install ubuntu onto the ext4 partition, as /
[00:44] <bobweaver> unless__,  changing to port that is not 22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YzCxBkx6GQ
[00:45] <bobweaver> unless__,  changing to have no auth  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRLzCHkfW8A
[00:45] <Daniel_> what an ext4 parition? how can i create it on widnows
[00:45] <Deutopia> you cant
[00:45] <Deutopia> you do that in the ubuntu setup
[00:46] <Daniel_> so after i delete the hp_tools paritions, i create and extended parition, install ubuntu and create the swap and ex4 parition while installing
[00:47] <Daniel_> right?
[00:47] <Deutopia> do you have backups? do you have a disk to restore windows if everything were to ever melt down?
[00:47] <Mitsu> Daniel_: you will have to shrink and move some partitions, which could take several hours for your computer to complete.
[00:48] <Mitsu> shrink your C partition to make room for logical ext4 and swap partitions
[00:48] <Areckx> Cheapshot::  I think I'll put it aside for now. I have work to do
[00:50] <Cheapshot> Areckx yeah :) i've had plenty of similar problems with logitech mice and usually ended up tearing them apart and putting it back together
[01:01] <airshock> Hi all. Can anyone explain to me why the following warning occurs? I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04 x86-64 and trying to install ProFTPD through apt-get, and get this warning: vd1.airshock.net proftpd[18416]: mod_sftp/0.9.8: compiled using OpenSSL version 'OpenSSL 1.0.0e 6 Sep 2011' headers, but linked to OpenSSL version 'OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012' library
[01:09] <daddy> server -m irc.nevernet.net
[01:09] <Mitsu> airshock: sounds like something to safely ignore
[01:11] <airshock> Mitsu: Why exactly though is it something that should be ignored? I mean it sounds like an OpenSSL version mismatch, shouldn't this be corrected?
[01:12] <jen__> does anyone work with mypaint?
[01:14] <daddy> msg nicksrv identify Kaite4122
[01:14] <BullShark> how do i get gobby 0.4 in ubuntu?
[01:14] <rsser> |samba
[01:14] <rsser> !samba
[01:15] <jrib> daddy: you should change your password now
[01:15] <daddy> that wasn't it anyway
[01:15] <daddy> lol
[01:16] <daddy> wireless keyboard...
[01:16] <jen__> okay every time my updates pop up it says it can only be partially updated
[01:16] <jen__> its been like this for a year now
[01:16] <netturu> hello
[01:17] <netturu> can anybody help ??
[01:17] <Cheapshot> dont ask for help just ask the question netturu
[01:17] <netturu> hello ?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> netturu, not if we don't know the problem form a question.
[01:17] <netturu> can anybody tell me how to fix my ryhtmbox the music cuts in and out
[01:19] <netturu> is their away i can use rythmbox and my ipod
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> jen__, Are you backed up?
[01:20] <jen__> wilee-nilee, doubt it
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> jen__, I would make some suggestions but not being backed up wont allow me really.
[01:21] <WeThePeople> netturu, does music cut in and out on any onther palyers
[01:21] <WeThePeople> players
[01:22] <netturu> i havent tried with banshee because it doesnt recognize my i pod
[01:24] <netturu> how do i get banshee to recognize my ipod
[01:25] <kika_> how come spicctrl cannot be found by apt-get anymore?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> !info spicctrl
[01:27] <kika_> I guess it used to (according to some forums)
[01:27] <kika_> Now I have to manually download the .deb file
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> aww now where is that tiny little violin. ;)
[01:28] <kika_> it actually took me a whole morning trying to revive an old sony vaio
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> http://pkgs.org/download/spicctrl
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> 11.04 is the last release here use at your own risk.
[01:30] <kika_> seems to work in lubuntu 12.04...may depend on the machine though
[01:33] <kika_> fyi, I'm an irc newbie!
[01:41] <argot|pryer> hello?
[01:41] <warm> my ubuntu is getting larger and larger with the auto update. and the 9G volume partition is using up.
[01:42] <warm> how to shrink the size? or is the older version files still in my computer?
[01:43] <Cedy> i have gnome and installed the kde plasma desktop. Is their a gksu to kdesu app
[01:43] <w0rm_x> warm extend the partition
[01:44] <warm> w0rm_x, is there a way to extend the partition without reinstalling the system?
[01:45] <w0rm_x> warm sure is!! why would you re-install the system to only extend a partition?
[01:46] <warm> w0rm_x, my entire system is on that partition except the /home folder
[01:46] <ForSpareParts> Question about C devlopment under Ubuntu: where can I find all the header files so that Eclipse can do proper code completion?
[01:46] <Kryptron> warm try "apt-get clean"
[01:47] <ForSpareParts> I have build-essential installed, if that matters.
[01:47] <warm> w0rm_x, is fdisk able to do such thing?
[01:47] <warm> Kryptron, i tried that and also "apt-get autoclean"
[01:49] <kika_> warm check out http://maketecheasier.com/8-ways-to-maintain-a-clean-lean-ubuntu-machine/2008/10/07
[01:50] <warm> kika_, thanks, i will try
[01:51] <kika_> I'll try apt-get clean myselft, see what comes out
[01:52] <WACOMalt> Anyone have a guide for getting cuda SDK and drivers installed on precise? Trying to build a cuda program from source
[01:54] <kika1> ggrrr, chatzilla died on me
[01:56] <unless__> kika1, why?
[01:56] <nikozzzzzz_> cuda can be obtained on nvidia website. there are also instructions
[01:58] <kika1> cause I'm dumb, did a list on the freenode server and my comp browser crashed
[02:01] <imadam> Good morning guys, sorry if this is a noob question but does anybody know a utility to erase a dvd-r for re-burning?
[02:02] <Cheapshot> imadam there is no such thing on dvd-r
[02:02] <bobweaver> imadam, maybe try k3b ? for dvd-rw
[02:02] <Cheapshot> imadam you need a dvd-rw for rewrite
[02:03] <imadam> Can data not be deleted off DVD-R discs and re-burned?
[02:03] <bobweaver> imadam,  neededs to be vdv-readable writeable aka dvd-rw
[02:03] <violinappren> imadam: from a terminal: wodim blank
[02:04] <violinappren> imadam: the dvd disk has to support erasing
[02:04] <WACOMalt> How do I install cuda/opencl on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <imadam> That sucks.
[02:05] <Deutopia> i saw that either on nvidia or ati's site not too long ago
[02:06] <bobweaver> WACOMalt,  did you try asking that also on #cuda ?
[02:06] <Palace_Chan> I have a GEForce GT 630M on my laptop, and a dell monitor working through vga..but nothing happens when i plug in the second dell with an hdmi cable..if i go to nvidia-settings it says you do not appera to be using the nvidia x driver
[02:06] <Palace_Chan> but running nvidia-xconfig as root did nothing to change this
[02:06] <WACOMalt> I didn't will check there, thanks
[02:07] <Deutopia> download the nvidia hdmi thingy from the app center or synaptic
[02:08] <Palace_Chan> nvidia hdmi yields no results in the software center though
[02:08] <WACOMalt> OK um... In Ubuntu software center if I click to install anything it spits a windows saying I need to authenticate, it shows up for amplit second shaking like crazy then goes away any my software doesn't install
[02:08] <WACOMalt> *a split sefond
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> WACOMalt, try apt-get and see if a missing key shows.
[02:09] <WACOMalt> Ok
[02:09] <Deutopia> im waiting on a synaptic install so i cant check or open a browser at this very second so all i can saw is dont use the search
[02:09] <WACOMalt> Unable to luck install directory
[02:10] <WACOMalt> Because system updates are running
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> are they
[02:10] <WACOMalt> But I've always been able to queue apps to install at the same time
[02:10] <WACOMalt> Yes they are
[02:11] <violinappren> !enter | WACOMalt
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> WACOMalt, you can only use the software center or apt-get individually not at the same time
[02:11] <WACOMalt> I'm aware
[02:11] <WACOMalt> I'm saying just in software center its not queueing apps when system updates are running like it used to
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> there may be conflicts, hard to say I don't use the software center.
[02:12] <WACOMalt> And the authentication box behavior is certainly not working right
[02:13] <WACOMalt> Working now
[02:13] <WACOMalt> Weird...
[02:13] <WACOMalt> Yet another rough around the edges Ubuntu bug
[02:13] <amagee> (if there's a more appropriate place to ask this question, please let me know..) I'm using gparted to create a partition table on a blank 2TB drive, and it's asking me which partition type I want (msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, ...).. which one should I choose?
[02:13] <WACOMalt> OK thanks for the help, bye
[02:13] <violinappren> amagee: msdos
[02:14] <amagee> violinappren: ok, coolio.  what does that actually mean btw?  what are the implications?
[02:15] <unperson> I've just upgraded my 10.04.4 LTS system to 12.04.1 using the update manager.  Now when the system boots I get kicked out into Busybox during booting.  I'm hoping someone can help me get a clue of why this is happening and how to fix it.
[02:15] <unperson> None of the messages on screen before the busybox prompt seem to clearly indicate an error.
[02:15] <violinappren> amagee: its the format of the table at the start of the disk that an operating system reads to find your partitions (regardless of the filesystem on the partition itself, which can be for example NTFS or EXT4)
[02:16] <Palace_Chan> so even though i ran sudo nvidia-xconfig i still get "you do not appear to be using nvidia x driver"
[02:16] <Palace_Chan> how can i get into nvidia-settings?
[02:16] <unperson> Also, if I simply type exit the boot will continue to the GUI without an obvious issue, but rebooting gets me stuck at the busybox prompt again.
[02:16] <amagee> ok, so "msdos" should allow me to create large (1TB) ntfs and ext4 partitions that can be used both in linux and in windows 7?
[02:17] <unperson> I should clarify that I'm not dual booting (which is mostly what was discussed when I did a little nonspecific googling on the problem).
[02:17] <violinappren> amagee: MSDOS is pretty much the standard out there, macs are popularizing a newer more advanced partition table format, GPT
[02:17] <amagee> ok
[02:17] <amagee> thansk
[02:17] <amagee> thanks
[02:17] <violinappren> amagee: you're welcome
[02:18] <amagee> umm, does windows 7 still use ntfs? :$
[02:18] <unperson> Basically my issue here is that I have no idea *why* I'm being kicked to busybox, so I don't know where to begin on troubleshooting.
[02:19] <violinappren> amagee: yes, newer versions
[02:19] <amagee> cool
[02:20] <amagee> thanks again, now going to reboot into windows and use my new partition to install skyrim :P
[02:22] <unperson> I've had problems long ago (with previous configs on previous OS versions) where I got kicked out into busybox, but IIRC they were usually preceded by an error message that gave some clue of what the issue was.  And generally just exiting busybox did not allow boot to continue successfully, so I'm very confused.
[02:23] <violinappren> unperson: save yourself the pain and do a clean install, ubuntu desktop upgrades are still .. not very well tested
[02:23] <rgenito_> anyone here use ubuntu 12 for chinese input?
[02:24] <violinappren> !zh | rgenito_
[02:24] <unperson> violinappren, I may go that way eventually, but given that it seems superficially to work 99% of the way and it took me a while to download the 2.5 GB of packages, I think I won't give up quite that easily.
[02:25] <ohmygoddess> ...
[02:25] <dwarder> hello, i'm trying to NAT my 80 port, so that i could go to my real_static_vps_ip and it would route this request to my vpn adress(tun0 if and 10.8.0.26 ip) this is what i use http://pastebin.com/1sshUZkP what am i missing?
[02:25] <violinappren> unperson: all the best
[02:26] <rgenito_> violinappren, thanks :)
[02:27] <rgenito_> violinappren, i'm gunna be so mad if no one there speaks english!!! ;)
[02:27] <unperson> violinappren, It's funny.  I've been running Ubuntu since warty and for a long time version upgrades went quite smoothly.  One of the things I liked about Ubuntu is that it "just worked".  But recently my experience has been much more buggy (which goes for Ubuntu overall, actually).
[02:28] <szj_> 1
[02:29] <unperson> dwarder, Someone here may have the answer, but you might have better luck in, eg., ##linux
[02:29] <unperson> dwarder, Someone here may have the answer, but you might have better luck in, eg., ##linux
[02:29] <violinappren> unperson: it's a consequence of system complexity growing with new "cooler" features
[02:30] <nikozzzzzz_> BoobleDoo
[02:30] <blackshirt> something maybe here
[02:32] <charlie> really?
[02:32] <unperson> violinappren, I guess that's probably so.  For my part I'd take reliability over cool, but I recognize that's a subjective value judgment. :-)
[02:32] <blackshirt> hey charlie
[02:32] <Guest75628> hey...my name changed
[02:32] <jrib> !register | Guest75628
[02:33] <violinappren> unperson: desktop-wise, i dont see how my any distro out there now is better than  the last install of  mandrake linux  i had in 2004!  it's another story on the server-side though.
[02:36] <blackshirt> i think it was more and more getting better... It was naturally
[02:36] <unperson> violinappren, Assuming more googling doesn't yield an answer, do you think I should take my issue to ubuntuforums or file a bug on launchpad?
[02:37] <violinappren> unperson: perhaps the forums would help, i dont think filing a bug would really help even though you should
[02:38] <unperson> violinappren, I suppose nothing stops me from doing both.
[02:39] <violinappren> unperson: not that i know of
[02:44] <ehlodex> does this channel cover ubuntu derivatives? (e.g. Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Edubuntu)
[02:45] <unless__> Could someone help me about how to change network config file to use DHCP.
[02:45] <Cheapshot> ehlodex In some part yes, but for a distribution specific problems use the right channels #xubuntu #lubuntu etc..
[02:45] <unless__> please?
[02:46] <unless__> I am running Ubuntu Server and it doesn't seems to be default.
[02:46] <Gycklarn> unless__, It should be
[02:46] <Gycklarn> My Ubuntu server uses DHCP by default
[02:47] <unless__> Gycklarn, I've bridged it to my Wifi modem and it is not giving a IP address.
[02:48] <Cristiano_Said> Hello
[02:48] <Cristiano_Said> I need help with iptables
[02:48] <Cheapshot> Gycklarn what does your /etc/network/interfaces say
[02:48] <Cheapshot> unless__ I meant, sorry gycklarn
[02:49] <Gycklarn> np 8]
[02:49] <Gycklarn> Cheapshot, You asked the very question I was going to ask. Except, you asked me.
[02:49] <unless__> What  are you talking about ?
[02:49] <Cristiano_Said> I need to know what really makes this rule (-A PREROUTING -i eth1  -d 187.17.96.84 -s 10.172.13.111 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128)
[02:50] <Cheapshot> unless__ type "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[02:50] <WeThePeople> cristiano_said, use --help
[02:50] <dev___> hey- my usb mouse is all skippy but the touchpad on my notebook works ok
[02:50] <AMrDan> Hi everyone .. does somebody knows why my desktop changes from gnome to xfce everytime... I just installed xfce..
[02:50] <dev___> what could be the problem?
[02:51] <Cristiano_Said> --help
[02:51] <unless__> Cheapshot, it says for primary network interface (but I am not using eth0 here) iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:51] <riex> Hello, i am trying to run this php script http://pastebin.com/RyCsfu6d from cron, but i dosen't work. I use this commando here in crontab: */60 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/antg/traffic.php <-
[02:51] <unless__> Cheapshot, I am using eth2 (wifi)
[02:51] <dev___> i am using a logitech usb mouse
[02:51] <dev___> it's like the mouse resolution is too low or something
[02:52] <Cristiano_Said> kkkkkkkkkkk
[02:52] <Toph2> AMrDan,,, xfce must be your default at login
[02:52] <Cristiano_Said> speaking seriously, I need help
[02:52] <Cristiano_Said> I need to know what really makes this rule (-A PREROUTING -i eth1  -d 187.17.96.84 -s 10.172.13.111 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128)
[02:52] <tenX> Cristiano_Said: qry
[02:52] <dev___> any ideas?
[02:53] <riex> Hello, i am trying to run this php script http://pastebin.com/RyCsfu6d from cron, but i dosen't work. I use this commando here in crontab: */60 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/antg/traffic.php <- please anyone :-p
[02:53] <AMrDan> Toph2 I did that .. my desktop is all gnome, but the entire system is xfce
[02:54] <tenshinoneko> hello ^_^ anyone had made a full ubuntu install on a macbook air before? o.o I'm planning to do that since i dont use OS X but i dunno much of the EFI and all that, i'm scared of killing the system. plus I have to buy a usb superdrive because no matter how many times I tried, i can't boot from USB =(
[02:55] <Cristiano_Said> the channel has 1500 people and nobody can help me?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> Cristiano_Said, many or most are idling.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> and 8 min to get frustrated is less then even your advised to repost
[02:56] <Cristiano_Said> yes
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:57] <nonuby> how can I tell pulseaudio to use my custom convert_mic device http://pastebin.com/ it doesnt show in pavucontrol etc..
[02:57] <AMrDan> can somebody give me some help? :)
[02:57] <nonuby> http://pastebin.com/XTW5BthQ
[02:58] <blackshirt> amrdan,what is your problem?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> AMrDan, what ever DE you boot into will be where you end up at ikf you are auto-logging in.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> if*
[02:59] <Cristiano_Said> qual é seu problema AMrDan?:
[02:59] <AMrDan> blackshirt  my desktop changes from gnome to xfce everytime... I just installed xfce..
[03:00] <Cheapshot> AMrDan Isnt that what you wanted when you installed xfce
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> AMrDan, Are you changing the DE at login or on the DE?
[03:00] <AMrDan> wilee-nilee .. you are saying that i'm auto logging in with gnome?
[03:00] <blackshirt> amrdan, change default login dm on login window
[03:00] <Cristiano_Said> AMrDan: entendo.. desculpe nao serei útil nessa .. rsrs .. mas pode ser que nos canais #planeta-ubuntu-brasil ou #ubuntu-br-seguranca alguem possa
[03:00] <Cristiano_Said> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> AMrDan, I don't know are you is the question, if so logout choose xfce a\nd you should get there on the next reboot and auto login if you are doing a auto.
[03:01] <AMrDan> cheapshot.. I wanted everything xfce .. but my desktop is gnome
[03:02] <AMrDan> wilee-nilee .. sorry but what is DE? :)
[03:02] <OerHeks> !purexfce
[03:02] <Cheapshot> AMrDan You need to logout and chance the session to xfce
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> desktop enviroment
[03:03] <AMrDan> blackshirt I changed in the login window to xfce desktop.. is that it?
[03:03] <Cheapshot> AMrDan http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/xfceoneiric03.png
[03:04] <AMrDan> Cristiano_said . Hhuahuauhahuahu .. agora que eu peguntei um monte de vezes tah todo mundo respondendo .. rsrsrs otimo!! . uhwwll
[03:05] <AMrDan> cheapshot I chose the xfce session .. (my ubuntu does not have the Xubuntu session) ..
[03:06] <AMrDan> wilee-nilee i did it to .. but it seems like a bug
[03:06] <WeThePeople> amrdan, Now I peguntei a lot of times everyone responding tah .. lol great!
[03:06] <Cheapshot> AMrDan So is everything now like you wanted it?
[03:07] <WeThePeople> Now that I asked a lot of times everybody's responding .. lol great!
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> 3 people are not everybody
[03:07] <AMrDan> wethepeople I mean that I ask so many times and I'm finally getting answers...
[03:08] <WeThePeople> thats ok
[03:08] <Cheapshot> AMrDan I personally would just install xubuntu-desktop and use it if you like the xfce
[03:08] <Nikozzzzzz> Hello
[03:08] <AMrDan> cheapshot... how could I do it ..
[03:09] <AMrDan> cheapshot i did it this way: apt-get install xfce4
[03:09] <Nikozzzzzz> You could download xubuntu iso o.o
[03:09] <Toph2> Cheapshot,,, what is the difference between xfce and xubuntu?  I have just installed xfce and it works fine
[03:09] <Nikozzzzzz> Xfce is a desktop enviroment. Xubuntu is ubuntu with this enviroment
[03:10] <black_13> what is casper
[03:10] <Cheapshot> AMrDan "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" But to warn you its a big install so it takes a while
[03:10] <black_13> i am trying to use uck and it chokes because casper is missing
[03:10] <Jhkier> hello :)
[03:11] <Jhkier> wondering if someone can give me some quick advise about apache setup on ubuntu
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> !info casper
[03:11] <Nikozzzzzz> Black, excuse me , what are you trying to do ?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> make a custom cd
[03:12] <domtron> hello is there a way to turn off the gui for the installer. I think it might solve my installation problem.
[03:12] <AMrDan> cheapshot... thank you so much ... i'm gonna try tomorrow .. I come back to feedback you ... heheh :D
[03:13] <Jhkier> I'm just trying to do a very basic install of Drupal - and.. while phpmyadmin is working, I can work out how to configure it to be accessible...
[03:13] <Jhkier> ?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> domtron, you can use the alternative install it is text.
[03:13] <black_13> Nikozzzzzz: i am trying to make an install cd with a custome preseed to allow auto installation
[03:13] <Nikozzzzzz> There is a way to turn off gui. You have to start allover with a TEXT INSTALL
[03:13] <L1> I'm trying to sahre a folder on an NTFS partition (previously owned by a Win7 install). I have done "sudo chown -R MyName/media/myPartition/*". However when I try share it, I get "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/myPartition as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own."
[03:13] <L1> Any ideas?
[03:14] <Nikozzzzzz> oh i see. I thought you had problem with already created live cd. Sory cant help you with that(
[03:14] <domtron> wilee-nilee: I was hoping not to use that because it requires a net connection and mine isn't very good.
[03:14] <Nikozzzzzz> Share it as root. Root owns everything
[03:15] <black_13> Nikozzzzzz: yeah i get a lot of that
[03:15] <domtron> Nikozzzzzz: I want my system to have gui just not the installer
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> domtron, Your best having a net connection if you can, the alternative is not the mini it will do a full install without the net.
[03:16] <Jhkier> i'm pretty sure my phpmyadmin accessibility issue has something do do with /apache2/availables-sites/.....anyone got something they can point me in the right direction?
[03:16] <zymaster> Hello guys I am having a problem with permissions. I can not boot into recovery mode because I am not at my server I am only using ssh. I do however have su to change permissions. First when I try sudo I get sudo: must be setuid root. Second when I try screen -S somethinorother I get Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777. Anyone have a solution that does not involve booting into recovery mode? Also I do not want to run everyt
[03:16] <Nikozzzzzz> Domtron then kill xserver or boot in text mode
[03:17] <Nikozzzzzz> Domron , boot in recovery mode ( selected during booting in grub)
[03:18] <domtron> there is no recovery mode since it's a first install(windows is currently on there)
[03:18] <domtron> @Nikozzzzzz
[03:18] <Nikozzzzzz>   Zymaster did you try just   '  su  '    ?
[03:19] <zymaster> Nikozzzzzz: Yeah I can use su but I can not use sudo or screen while not as root.
[03:19] <Nikozzzzzz> Then kill xserver. Google can tell what key combination to use. I cant tellsimply cos i dont remeber.(
[03:20] <zymaster> Nilozzzzzz wait how would that kelp?
[03:20] <iateadonut> how can i make my settings in compiz the default settings for all users?
[03:21] <Nikozzzzzz> That would run your system in text mode
[03:22] <skraito> hi guys
[03:22] <skraito> is there any shortcut to maximize and minimize windows ?
[03:23] <Cheapshot> skraito try alt+ f9 and f10
[03:24] <skraito> hmm cant
[03:24] <skraito> it show file or something like that
[03:24] <kxtwo> Hey guys, I used the ubuntu software center to download java 7 runtime, but when I type javac -version I am still using the 1.6 compiler and any code I try to r\un in eclipse with the 1.7 compiler wont work?  Am I missing something?
[03:24] <zymaster> Ok some how or another I fixed it. I just chmoded a few things and now it works. Dont remember exactly what I did though
[03:26] <skraito> anyone know how to maximize and minimize windows
[03:27] <Nikozzzzzz> Yeah with the button _
[03:28] <Nikozzzzzz> Or do yiu mean a keyboard shortcut ?
[03:28] <root___> hell
[03:28] <root___> hello
[03:29] <root___> hello from uruguay
[03:29] <root___> anybody speak spanish im a new in this
[03:30] <Nikozzzzzz> Hello from russia
[03:30] <tim442> hola (i don't know much more than that though)
[03:30] <root___> hi
[03:30] <DG_> i speak a little bit of spanish
[03:30] <arand> !es | root___
[03:30] <DG_> hola como estas? me llamo daniel
[03:31] <root___> ok
[03:31] <root___> hola daniel
[03:31] <nexusguy59> root___, spent a bunch of tiem in Guayaquil Ecuador I speak Spanish but can't write it
[03:31] <nexusguy59> oops time I meant
[03:31] <nexusguy59> hole root___ hola mi llamo michael
[03:32] <nexusguy59> oops lol hola
[03:32] <IdleOne> !es
[03:33] <nexusguy59> nice ubottu very nice
[03:33] <nexusguy59> See now I can read that but I can't write it lol
[03:33] <unperson> I'm posting a bug.  I thought perhaps I should include my syslog, but I was wondering what sensitive info might be in there that should be scrubbed.  So far all I've thought of are IP addresses and user names.
[03:34] <nexusguy59> probably passwords even if their encrypted not sure they are actually in there
[03:35] <Cheapshot> skraito did you find the shortcut yet? its ctrl + win + up or down
[03:35] <black_13> did ubuntu stop using casper at some point?
[03:35] <unperson> nexusguy59, It's a good thought, but I don't think they'd be in there under any normal circumstances.
[03:36] <unperson> nexusguy59, More likely in auth.log, but I don't actually think they appear there either.
[03:37] <DG_> are there any good apps?
[03:37] <drupin> i am not able to load the newly installed OS on a flash drive wit two ext3 partitions one for os and other casper-rw. is there any way i can fix what is broken in the OS ... The message i get is no operating system found... first time it was loaded and grub menu came and it took forever so i came in recovery mode and did the update after that its not reading the OS..
[03:41] <Nikozzzzzz> Oh
[03:41] <Petaz> start
[03:42] <Petaz> !start chaterbot
[03:42] <DG_> anyone know some good apps?
[03:43] <Cheapshot> DG_ please be more specific
[03:43] <OerHeks> DG_, for what exactly?
[03:43] <DG_> anything really, everything but developer tools
[03:43] <Petaz> yes give us the details
[03:43] <OerHeks> DG_, softwarecentre is full of "good apps"
[03:44] <msmith0957> Having trouble getting pulse working with a fresh ubuntu install. When i run pulseaudio its trying to open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p when i dont even have a device with that name, the only names i have are controlC0, hwC0D0, hwC0D1, pcmC0D6c, pcmC0D6p, seq, and timer. the output from launching is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206483/
[03:44] <blackshirt> i think not
[03:44] <msmith0957> I spent a lot of time on here last night trying to debug but couldn't come up with a solution
[03:44] <DG_> How about this, useful tools
[03:44] <OerHeks> !best
[03:45] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[03:45] <adam2012> Hello nice folk, would anybody happen to know the command for installing wine in 12.04. sudo apt-get wine won't work for me.
[03:45] <DG_> lmao
[03:45] <DG_> alright thanks
[03:45] <msmith0957> adam2012: sudo apt-get install wine maybe ?
[03:46] <adam2012> software center doesn't seem to be working for me.
[03:46] <mattwj2002> well I bought two new computers today they are el cheapos but I am dual booting them both with ubuntu!
[03:46] <mattwj2002> :D
[03:46] <almoxarife> adam2012: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:46] <adam2012> almoxarife I fail life ): its 5am here. My brain doesn't work in the morning. I love you. <3
[03:47] <skraito> hi guys
[03:47] <skraito> is there any converter for mp3 to youtube video ?
[03:50] <DG_> @skraito listentoyoutube.com
[03:51] <skraito> yeah for punde
[03:51] <skraito> not for a clean website
[03:51] <skraito> stop spreading virus here
[03:51] <DG_> what?
[03:51] <drupin> i cannot load the OS i am so stuck
[03:52] <drupin> only option is a fresh install
[03:53] <mattwj2002> drupin: what happened?
[03:53] <drupin> I am not able to load the newly installed OS on a flash drive wit two ext3 partitions one for os and other casper-rw. is there any way i can fix what is broken in the OS ... The message i get is no operating system found... first time it was loaded and grub menu came and it took forever so i came in recovery mode and did the update after that its not reading the OS..
[03:53] <OerHeks> skraito, ffmpeg can do that >> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/turn-mp3-and-image-into-video-for.html
[03:53] <drupin> i opened the install.. ok i stop
[03:54] <mattwj2002> guys if memory services
[03:55] <mattwj2002> *serves
[03:55] <mattwj2002> won't this just be a grub issue?
[03:55] <drupin> how can i fix?
[03:55] <mattwj2002> I suck at grub but I think it is fixable
[03:56] <drupin> i hope so
[03:57] <drupin> let me ask #grub
[03:57] <mattwj2002> okay
[03:57] <mattwj2002> :)
[03:58] <phunyguy> Is it possible to disable the new scrollbars for a single application only?
[03:58] <drupin> it did the updates in recovery mode
[03:59] <mattwj2002> drupin:
[03:59] <mattwj2002> a couple of questions for you
[03:59] <drupin> yes?
[03:59] <mattwj2002> number one what is on this thumbdrive?
[04:00] <mattwj2002> I mean what happens if you lose the data?
[04:00] <drupin> it has 2 partitions one for OS and other casper-rw
[04:01] <drupin> nothing its fresh install
[04:01] <mattwj2002> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/182440
[04:01] <drupin> no personal data yet?
[04:01] <mattwj2002> good
[04:01] <DG_> drupin, idk if this will help but try typing in grub "sudo update-grub"
[04:01] <mattwj2002> no idea if that'll work but hey that is what the all mighty google told me
[04:01] <DG_> no quotes
[04:02] <mattwj2002> I just hate to give advice if important data is on this device
[04:02] <drupin> DG_: i am on live system now and the .. will this update the grub on flash  drive...
[04:02] <mattwj2002> :)
[04:03] <tenshinoneko> hello ^_^ anyone have any experience full installing in a macbook air?
[04:03] <unless__> I am suffering from lots of spam from my server. I already told the guys but nothing has being made. Now the best option I see is move along to a new server, but I wonder is there isn't a option to install to avoid suck spam issues, is it?
[04:03] <DG_> it should update the bootloader list if you installed it and it doesn't show up thats what it's used for
[04:03] <OerHeks> tenshinoneko, did you have a look at the mactel pages ?
[04:03] <OerHeks> !mac
[04:03] <DG_> i've never tried it with a flash drive but still
[04:04] <tenshinoneko> Oerheks, i did. I have a macbook air 3,1 tried all night long yesterday to create a USB installer but it won't boot no matter what =( and i dont want to go to the cult store to get an expensive cd drive just to cleanse os x away from my macbook air =(
[04:05] <phunyguy> nevermind, answered my own question
[04:05] <mattwj2002> also make sure you don't have two thumb drives stuck in the machine and when it boots it is trying to boot off th other one
[04:05] <mattwj2002> :P
[04:05] <unless__> I mean, is there any anti-spam tool available to Ubuntu?
[04:05] <mattwj2002> or a hard drive with no image etc
[04:06] <mattwj2002> http://spamassassin.apache.org/
[04:06] <OerHeks> tenshinoneko, maybe this howto is any help >> http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-macbook-air-3-1-via-usb-flash-drive
[04:06] <mattwj2002> never done anything with it just heard about it
[04:07] <mattwj2002> unless__: that was for you!
[04:07] <tenshinoneko> OerHeks, ok let me read that, will be back in a bit then ^_^
[04:08] <enix> trying to find a folder on an external HDD, getting pastebin.com/fSJEsGQn   any ideas? i know the folder existes
[04:08] <OerHeks> tenshinoneko, i do not own a macbook, so i cannot walk you trough the installation.
[04:08] <unless__> mattwj2002, well, let me have a look. Thank you.
[04:09] <mattwj2002> your welcome I do have another suggestion one second
[04:10] <kxtwo> I have an epson xp-400 wireless printer.  I can't seem to find any linux drivers for it.  Do I have any options to get this running on 12.04?
[04:10] <smacktalk> I'm trying to create a freenas image on a thumb drive and it's choking... using the command xzcat FreeNAS-8.0.4-RELEASE-x64-img.xz | dd of=/media/0000-001 bs=64k
[04:10] <unless__> matterbu1, in this case I would have to run a mail server?
[04:11] <smacktalk> it's telling me I don't have permissions
[04:11] <mattwj2002> unless__: also take a look at the tldp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/ and maybe http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/
[04:11] <mattwj2002> :)
[04:12] <smacktalk> when I go to SU it gives me password failure
[04:12] <mattwj2002> maybe nothing there but always a good place to check
[04:12] <smacktalk> any suggestions?
[04:12] <drupin> DG_: usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[04:12] <OerHeks> kxtwo, your printer question is answered here, read it trough > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+question/204986
[04:12] <tenshinoneko> OerHeks, thanks for trying to helping me out it's really nice of you =) yes i tried to do a diskdump yesterday into a usb, but then it wouldnt boot into it =/
[04:12] <drupin> but i can see the system file in that mounted drive
[04:12] <din> smacktalk: sudo su - maybe?
[04:13] <ZenGuy> a friend of mine is having trouble screating a udev rule which runs a script when he plugs in his monitor via hdmi .. undev monitor shows devname is card0 so he setkernel=="card0" action=="change
[04:13] <tenshinoneko> OerHeks i'll end up having to get some money borrowed and go to the cult store =(
[04:13] <tenshinoneko> hehe
[04:13] <ZenGuy> what else does he need to do?
[04:14] <OerHeks> tenshinoneko, sorry to hear that. maybe someone else here has experience with macbook air 3.1 ...
[04:14] <mattwj2002> church?
[04:14] <mattwj2002> :P
[04:14] <nexusguy59> kxtwo, did you try these drivers -> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=NL&CN2=&DSCMI=17706&DSCCHK=a29a993708b8d59a6f850f9b0330aff7bdda7b10
[04:15] <mattwj2002> praise be to Steve Jobs to assend the Apple stock price! :P
[04:15] <OerHeks> nexusguy59, that driver is on the launchpad post too, thanks.
[04:16] <smacktalk> Din: That worked thanks!!
[04:16] <nexusguy59> OerHeks, Sorry I didn;t see it I shoulda looked
[04:16] <OerHeks> np
[04:16] <din> yw
[04:17] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002, lol ur funny
[04:18] <mattwj2002> :P
[04:18] <msmith0957> I'm having sound card issues on an older alienware laptop, anyone have any experience dealing with alsa/pulseaudio ?
[04:18] <mattwj2002> man is that stock ever going down? :P
[04:19] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 never!
[04:19] <sl33k_> is canon lide 110 supported for 10.04. on scanimage -L i get this message
[04:20] <mattwj2002> before too long Apple will have more money than the US....which isn't saying much haha
[04:20] <sl33k_> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x1909 [CanoScan], chip=GL843) at libusb:002:005 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by
[04:20] <sl33k_>   
[04:21] <mattwj2002> obviously I am joking
[04:22] <sl33k_> is there a some new update that will support my scanner?
[04:22] <mattwj2002> hp scanner?
[04:23] <sl33k_> canon
[04:23] <mattwj2002> hmmmm
[04:23] <sl33k_> lde 110
[04:23] <mattwj2002> there is something called something like hplib for hp devices never owned a canon
[04:24] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 i know u are :3 but i wish i was joking about this whole dilemma i have with the installation =(
[04:25]  * mattwj2002 scrolls up
[04:25] <andreb> guys i am trying to configure dnsmasq and when i try to start it i am getting "dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address al;ready in use" ./... and no i dont have any other dhcp service running on teh box
[04:26] <mattwj2002> tenshinoneko: can you summarize what is going on?
[04:27] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 trying to install ubuntu 12.04 to cleans the os x away from my macbook air 3,1 without a usb superdrive. tried doing a disk dump of the iso into a usb but no luck
[04:27] <mattwj2002> oh
[04:27] <mattwj2002> hmm
[04:27] <mattwj2002> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[04:28] <DHR> How come $MAIL isn't set when I login?  I've been using Unix and Linux for decades and this has always been set (well, since 7th edition anyway).
[04:28] <mattwj2002> ;)
[04:28] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 yup did that no dice =/
[04:28] <mattwj2002> I truely suck at macs
[04:28] <mattwj2002> what happened?
[04:29] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 when i did that, it will show on the bootscreen but, it wont really boot xD
[04:29] <tenshinoneko> i did that on ubuntu tho
[04:29] <tenshinoneko> let me see if i can do it on os x
[04:29] <tenshinoneko> hold on and i'll report back to ya  :3
[04:29] <mattwj2002> that is from os x I though
[04:29] <mattwj2002> oka
[04:29] <mattwj2002> *ok
[04:30] <Jak_Atackka> Help! My computer keeps crashing!
[04:30] <mattwj2002> hi Jak_Atackka what is going on?
[04:31] <Nikozzzzzz> BSOD :D
[04:31] <Jak_Atackka> Just that, the computer completely freezes, requiring me to hold down the power button until it turns off. I've tried reinstalling it. The RAM is in perfect condition (according to memtest), so I suspect it's a driver issue
[04:31] <mattwj2002> did you do updates and restart receively?
[04:31] <mattwj2002> recently
[04:32] <Jak_Atackka> No. However, on my first install, the first thing I did is install every update, and I still had the crash. This time, I didn't install any
[04:32] <Jak_Atackka> It's been crashing like this since day 1
[04:32] <mattwj2002> hmm
[04:33] <mattwj2002> no idea here
[04:33] <Areckx> SSH into iPhone, no route to host
[04:33] <Jak_Atackka> I'm using Intel HD 4000 graphics, which is the integrated graphics on my processor. Driver support is practically nonexistent
[04:33] <orated> Hello! I've scheduled a command in cron to run in every 10 minutes as - */10 * * * * sh ~/IP_konv.sh - but it is not working. How do I find why its not working?
[04:33] <mattwj2002> if you did updates recently and it started I was thinking maybe a kernel upgrade problem or video card drivers
[04:37] <thomedy> i need to update icedtea
[04:37] <thomedy> can i run apt-get update
[04:37] <DHR> Jak_Atackka: you can play with kernel parameters.  The easiest way to play is to interrupt grub's booting (hit a character) and edit the menu entry you want to run (changes it only for this run).  Go to the kernel line and try adding nomodeset, for example.  That will probably force a vesa video driver, one which is crude but may not be buggy.  Good luck.
[04:38] <imadam> Hello, just upgraded to 12.04, although for some odd reason software centre won't let me install any programs. Any fix?
[04:38] <DHR> imadam: does it say why?  Perhaps you are not an admin user?
[04:39] <Sajan> imadam, what sort of error message are you getting or what is happening when you try to install something?
[04:39] <imadam> No error message, running as admin user. The 'install' button just doesn't work within software centre. Been reading up alot of users have the same issue, although I can't find a fix.
[04:40] <reasearcher123> mp4 videos downloaded rom youtube dont play or dont have sound.what to do?
[04:41] <Areckx> SSH into iPhone, no route to host
[04:41] <Areckx> mt
[04:41] <imadam> Seems like its a reported bug. Would anybody happen to know where I could find the update? sudo apt-get update didn't seem to fix the issue.
[04:41] <blackshirt> e
[04:42] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any IP spoofer for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:42] <reasearcher123> my pc sometimes show boot menu with option for previous linux version.When  restarted  the same menu is seen.When shut off for long time then start properly.How to solve this problem?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | Ann-Mariya
[04:43] <unless__> imadam, type software-center at terminal at terminal and paste it somewhere.
[04:45] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 no luck =(
[04:45] <tenshinoneko> apple 1, linux 0 =(
[04:45] <mattwj2002> so you can't boot off of the usb thumb drive?
[04:46] <tenshinoneko> nop =(
[04:46] <tenshinoneko> i can on 4,2
[04:46] <imadam> unless__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208226/ appreciate your help!
[04:46] <tenshinoneko> but not on 3,1
[04:46] <thomedy> ran the ./configure in the icedtea plugin and it said it couldnt find the ant program
[04:47] <mattwj2002> did you press the alt option key?
[04:47] <ben_ashgrove> Does anyone know how to play pingus?
[04:47] <blackshirt> thomedy, install ant parser
[04:47] <thomedy> okay i can google that
[04:47] <mattwj2002> during bootup?
[04:48] <mattwj2002> like I said I know very little about the new macs
[04:48] <mattwj2002> :)
[04:48] <blackshirt> thomedy, that available on repository
[04:48] <tenshinoneko> haha its ok =) the intention is what matter :3 im just gonna run it from wubi :3
[04:49] <imadam> ben_ashgrove: wine?
[04:49] <thomedy> i hope that wa sright sudo apt-get install ant
[04:49] <mattwj2002> okay
[04:49] <mattwj2002> maybe someone else will know in the future
[04:49] <mattwj2002> sorry!
[04:49] <ben_ashgrove> imadan no for ubuntu
[04:49] <unless__> imadam, try sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu* && sudo apt-get update
[04:49] <blackshirt> thomedy, ensure you update apt databse
[04:49] <ben_ashgrove> I ddi the tutorials ages ago and forgot how to play
[04:49] <imadam> unless__ thanks. Will do.
[04:50] <thomedy> will sudo apt-get update work for that
[04:50] <nexusguy59> apt-get update then apt-get upgrade couldn;t hurt
[04:50] <Jak_Atackka> My computer crashes very frequently. What logs should I check to find out what specifically is causing my computer to crash?
[04:50] <nexusguy59> oops
[04:50] <imadam> unless__: Won't work.
[04:51] <rainchick> Hi everyone. Where are fonts installed in the filesystem? I don't want to use Font Viewer to install a few TTFs.
[04:51] <rainchick> s/installed/located.
[04:51] <imadam> I get: No such file or directory
[04:51] <thomedy> crap i dont know why my machine is missing so many things
[04:51] <thomedy> i am apt-get installing jar now
[04:51] <thomedy> piece o'shit machine
[04:52] <ben_ashgrove> imadan I need gameplay instructions
[04:53] <Richhh> nearest thing to private email?
[04:53] <imadam> ben_ashgrove: is http://pingus.seul.org/faq.html any help?
[04:53] <namespace> I'm having trouble with my path variable.
[04:54] <thomedy> okay now its saying a jdk home cant be found...?
[04:54] <namespace> When I try to add directories to it, my executables still don't run.
[04:54] <Areckx> I am also unable to mount my iphone via usb cable, I just install ifuse but it is ot workin
[04:55] <unless__> imadam, how about sudo dpkg --purge software-center && sudo apt-get install software-center
[04:55] <ben_ashgrove> imadan no it's not sorry. how do I create a bridge builder?
[04:55] <rgenito_> is there any application like "alfred" for ubuntu?
[04:55] <unless__> imadam, or sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude reinstall software-center
[04:56] <rgenito_> i loved alfred's feature where i could hit a key (ie: hit the HUDkey) and then i'd get a screen where i could type in math problems to get quick solutions :D
[04:57] <imadam> unless__: Hmmmm both don't seem to work. Guess I may just giveup trying to fix it and install software via terminal, I'm just so lazy haha.
[04:57] <thomedy> okay in googling the jdk home problem i made a symbolic link for it
[04:57] <thomedy> but its still not working
[04:57] <imadam> Although thank you for your help.
[04:58] <unless__> imadam, :)
[04:58] <imadam> I've tried everything haha. Alot of people seem to be having the same issue with 12.04. I dont really use software centre anyways.
[04:58] <phunyguy> I see xchat on Ubuntu has an indicator plugin for the envelope, but is there a similar feature to display popups when a highlighted message occurs?
[04:59] <unless__> imadam, yeah, after i realize how apt-get works I never used Software Center anymore.
[05:00] <namespace> unless__: Can't help me with my path variable then?
[05:00] <imadam> unless__: apt-get is more fun to be honest with you.
[05:00] <unless__> namespace, what?
[05:01] <blackshirt> thomedy, for first to update apt database, run apt-get update
[05:01] <imadam> unless__, have you got Skype installed?
[05:01] <namespace> unless__: My path variable, when I add paths to it the executables contained therein still don't run. "No such file or directory".
[05:01] <tenshinoneko> mattwj2002 i just erased the os x partition from windows 7 mwahaha is there a way i can choose where to install wubi?
[05:02] <thomedy> blackshirt, i did that thank you
[05:02] <unless__> imadam, no, is there a Ubuntu version for Skype?
[05:02] <blackshirt> thomedy and what exactly the errors showed?
[05:03] <h22turbo> phunyguy: xchat-indicator
[05:03] <imadam> unless__, yeah. Its not as good but it gets the job done. sudo apt-get install skype just won't seem to work.
[05:03] <thomedy> oh so you know im getting errors way to go let me check one sec and also pre thank you
[05:04] <phunyguy> h22turbo, first of all I get the reference with your username (Prelude?), second, A popup happened that time, but didn't before.  Thanks.
[05:04] <unless__> namespace, are you using .bash_alias or /etc/bash.bashrc?
[05:04] <h22turbo> phunyguy: yep... 93 prelude
[05:04] <namespace> unless__: I edited my path variable inside the shell and then used export. Does it need to be done in .bashrc?
[05:05] <mattwj2002> not sure tenshinoneko
[05:05] <mattwj2002> never installed wubi before
[05:05] <thomedy> okay i have a couple so cp past them
[05:05] <thomedy> http://pastebin.com/5TQeEXzS
[05:05] <imadam> Anyways, thank you for all your help today. Going to have to get ready for work ): Take care everyone!
[05:06] <thomedy> my original goal tonight was just to teach myself the math for computer graphics so i can properly aanimate a vector field
[05:06] <thomedy> i ahvent done calc in a while
[05:06] <Cheapshot> unless__ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[05:06] <thomedy> so im refreshing and strengthing my math to make a 3 leveled vector field
[05:06] <thomedy> but i need icedtea
[05:06] <unless__> namespace, well I use to edit the file /etc/bash.bashrc but if you just need to open an application on run you can make a alias also.
[05:06] <thomedy> to get through this online text book
[05:06] <sl33k_> i have scanimage backend 1.0.20. how would i update it to support lde 110 scanner?
[05:06] <thomedy> so now like everything else my machine gives me crap
[05:06] <blackshirt> thomedy, exactly i sit on handheld devices, and can't follow your link... Sorry guys
[05:07] <thomedy> no worries ill put them here
[05:07] <thomedy> 1 at a time
[05:07] <blackshirt> Okey
[05:07] <thomedy> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[05:07] <sl33k_> sane-genesys 5 shows to having supported it http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-genesys.5.html . How would i go about upgrading to it?
[05:08] <thomedy> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:08] <thomedy> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 46830400C4A100CF
[05:08] <thomedy> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/cheleb/blender-svn/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | thomedy
[05:08] <blackshirt> thomedy, look wasn't recognize the gpg sign
[05:08] <h22turbo> thomedy: ur about to be kicked/banned
[05:09] <thomedy> wilee-nilee, i tried that... but blackshirt said he coudn't follow
[05:09] <thomedy> i dont mean to be rude guys im sorry
[05:09] <thomedy> hes handheld
[05:09] <thomedy> im not trying to be a dick
[05:09] <h22turbo> phunyguy: it workz!
[05:09] <thomedy> i actually have a pastebin up there
[05:09] <thomedy> he didn't have a way of linking to it on his hand held
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, blackshirt does not make the rules. run this for each key sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "missing key"
[05:10] <h22turbo> phunyguy: it workz!?!?!?
[05:10] <phunyguy> h22turbo, just as I suspected, it's not xchat-indicator sending balloon popups.  It is the tray icon that is hidden.  I had to check the box to display popups for highlighted messages
[05:10] <thomedy> okay again im not trying to be a dick  and im sorry...
[05:10] <[muttox]> is it done differently between desktop and server version or is the user you create in the install not added to the audio group done for a reason
[05:10] <thomedy> okay so each one of those errors is a key?
[05:10] <h22turbo> phunyguy: my tray icon doesnt work... well, its hidden & I havent had time to mess with it
[05:11] <phunyguy> h22turbo, in the preferences, there are tray icon settings.
[05:11] <thomedy> and your saying i can run the same key with "missing key" as a var with each one
[05:11] <phunyguy> but unity only whitelists certain tray icons
[05:11] <h22turbo> phunyguy: if i minimize to tray... xchat is hidden. i checked the use tray icon thing. a ps aux shows xchat is still active but tray icon is hidden
[05:12] <phunyguy> h22turbo, there is a whitelist file, cant rember where, you can put it in there
[05:12] <phunyguy> but in unity, why worry about it.  The launcher icon works well
[05:13] <h22turbo> phunyguy: yea, i'll get around to it someday. i use gnome fallback... i hate unity
[05:13] <phunyguy> h22turbo, some do, others dont, I like it.  I think it works well!
[05:14] <thomedy> wilee-nilee, if you wouldn't mind going to my pastebin ^^ and helping with the rest
[05:14] <thomedy> i ran the one key
[05:14] <thomedy> and i have it now
[05:14] <thomedy> but i still have errors in my apt-get update
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, run the same command with each key
[05:15] <thomedy> i dont see any more key numbers
[05:15] <thomedy> so i figured it was the only key
[05:15] <thomedy> are the rest of them keys too and if so how do i identify them with ubuntu.com
[05:16] <sl33k_> canon lde 110 is not working on 10.04. could anyone help me?
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, You have two bad keys you ran one run the other and try the update or whatever you were running again afterward.
[05:18] <thomedy> so okay idef only ran one key... let me see if i can recognize the 2nd key and running it
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, 46830400C4A100CF is a key and the first set was this 40976EAF437D05B5
[05:19] <thomedy> cooli ran the 468 ill run 409 right now...sorry for being retarded
[05:19] <thomedy> thank you
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> hehe it is cool.
[05:20] <andreb> guys
[05:21] <andreb> how can i totally remove bind9 ?
[05:21] <andreb> i did sudo apt-get remove bind9
[05:21] <andreb> but the config files for bind and teh bind folder are still there
[05:21] <WACOMalt> Hi, does anyone know how to get the required headers and support files to build OpenCL source code in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:22] <thomedy> please dont hate me i still have errors
[05:22] <thomedy> http://pastebin.com/yLkYEK8F
[05:22] <thomedy> but i did run those keys
[05:22] <thomedy> and it helped
[05:22] <thomedy> jus tthis stuff now
[05:22] <FloodBot1> thomedy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, I would change the mirror Not sure if the ftp might be your problem.
[05:25] <thomedy> crap i just want to learn adva calc for comp graphics ... if your willing.. i would love some help it wasn't my intention to ubuntu tonight if you want me to google... ill do that
[05:25] <blackshirt> andreb, what the problems?
[05:26] <blackshirt> wacomalt, install development packages
[05:26] <marcagio> Hi, could anyone help with an SSD? I can't mount it, hdparm -tT looks good, but -d tells me HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:27] <marcagio> How can I figure out what io control to use and how do I change it?
[05:27] <bonez2046> why does this error come up and how can I resolve it: dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 29887 package 'handbrake-cli': error in Version string 'svn3917ppa1~lucid1': version number does not start with digit
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, I'm not I'm your best help but always paste the commands as well, not everyone come on the channel at the same time and might miss that if posted earlier.
[05:28] <thomedy> okay may i ask specifically what you mean by change the  mirror
[05:28] <blackshirt> bonez2046, i think that was a bug
[05:28] <WACOMalt> blackshirt, thats about as non-detailed as you could be...
[05:29] <mysteriousdarren> skraito?
[05:30] <blackshirt> wacomalt, i don't ply with opencl before, but if you need headers and related thing to included needed files, you should install opencl-dev packages ... Thats way debian/ubuntu naming development packages
[05:30] <bonez2046> blackshirt: that 'bug' has been popping up over the last few months. How can I clean it up for when i use dpkg
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, Sure open the software center-edit-software sources first tab download from drop down then other and check select best mirror or one close by
[05:31] <Floorduck> Hi, I've just installed Lubuntu on my laptop and I am having some issues with the internet connectivity. I am able to access websites but often suffer spikes of latency and/or 137 errors. Could anyone here be of assistance? I am totally new to ubuntu and linux. My laptop is an MSI X Series X460DX-423US and the wireless card is an Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030.
[05:32] <blackshirt> bonez2046... If you want bit a hack, you should edit that files
[05:33] <examancer> mmoebius: thanks for all the raid/lvm tips. 12.04 runs great and this SSD actually makes this underpowered E350 feel usable!
[05:33] <rgenito_> herro
[05:33] <WACOMalt> blackshirt, ok thankyou that's a start
[05:35] <blackshirt> okey
[05:36] <Artemis3> bonez2046, i have that problem in another machine, been too lazy to fix it, problem is update-manager becomes useless, but apt-get and synaptic do just fine (don't use software center)
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, You have a closed ppa as well you can remove it probably in the softwrae sources a swell, here is a link regarding the PPA,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/169542/want-to-install-latest-blender-ppa-does-not-work
[05:37] <bonez2046> Artemis3: thanks... apt-get is working fine
[05:38] <thomedy> your a gem wilee-nilee
[05:38] <thomedy> im still doing the first cuz i was a bit distracted
[05:38] <Artemis3> bonez2046, would like to fix it tho, it's annoying to get update-manager nags about "broken count > 1" errors, silly thing :P
[05:39] <thomedy> i hope that works i picked one is in illinois... which is a state a way does that sound bad or good?
[05:39] <marcagio> I guess nobody can help here?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, run a update after choosing that mirror is probably fine,
[05:41] <WACOMalt> marcagio, I am not sure, but have you tried other SATA ports for it?
[05:41] <thomedy> it seems to be better im doing the 2nd thing now
[05:41] <thomedy> and then runing an apt-get update
[05:41] <WACOMalt> marcagio, I know on my system there are certain ports that dont behave well with ubuntu
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> remove the PPA as well, and use the one suggested on the link page before running the apt-get update
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, ^^^^
[05:42] <WACOMalt> and I have to go, bye folks
[05:43] <thomedy> i went to the link and following the updateing the ppa
[05:43] <thomedy> i havent removed anything yet.... crap i hit enter sorry
[05:44] <marcagio> WACOMalt... strange... this drive has been working very well... This machine here is a hackintosh and my SSD has got OSX on it... since I installed Ubuntu on my secondary hdd... I can't even boot on my SSD...
[05:44] <marcagio> Let me just try to swap the sata port...
[05:48] <loyd1234> hi~~
[05:49] <prodigy> hi
[05:49] <prodigy> When will ubuntu become user friendly like windows, gain wide acceptance and have the support of the major devs?
[05:49] <examancer> ugh
[05:49] <thomedy> im googling how to purge ppa's i have ppa-purge i just apt-get installed it
[05:49] <thomedy> but i dont know what im purging
[05:50] <loyd1234> i am a new people to learn the ubuntu
[05:50] <prodigy> good luck with that
[05:50] <marcagio> prodigy... your question reveals how much you don't know about the pilosophy
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, removing PPA can be confusing the first time, here is a link on adding, removing and purging, and turning them off.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html
[05:50] <thomedy> okay rise to the occasion your amazing wilee-nilee
[05:50] <examancer> prodigy: you are trolling. that is not a very productive activity.
[05:51] <marcagio> WACOMalt, I tried 3 ports and still nothing
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, been there.
[05:51] <marcagio> Gparted detects all the paritions
[05:51] <prodigy> hmmm may be but the unfriendly nature drives me crazy
[05:51] <prodigy> i apologize
[05:52] <examancer> thomedy: why can't you just remove the repos by going into the software and Edit > Software Sources
[05:52] <marcagio> prodigy, take the blue pill and go back to sleep with the rest of the humans
[05:52] <thomedy> i probably can exaem but i have no idea wha tim doing and no one said tha tyet...so let me follow your directions and see if i can
[05:52] <thomedy> one sec thank you by the way
[05:52] <examancer> thomedy: you'll find them under other software and can just remove them in the nice gui
[05:52] <prodigy> no, i am not neo
[05:53] <Floorduck> I don't mean to spam, but does anyone have an idea to solve my internet problem? :l
[05:53] <rgenito_> how do i get information on the processors/cores on a machine?
[05:53] <examancer> prodigy: i'm not sure in what way you find windows easier
[05:53] <marcagio> prodigy, neo did not go back to sleep...
[05:53] <examancer> its certainly easier and more reliable to install software in ubuntu, IMO
[05:53] <examancer> apt beats the hell out of running random EXEs
[05:53] <prodigy> i know but since I don't have that option...i am not him
[05:54] <examancer> and the software center even gives a nice pretty gui for you windows users
[05:54] <marcagio> examancer is right... Windows is for wussies who will never have sex and play fucking games instead of freeing their minds...
[05:54] <prodigy> hmmm let me think...everything about windows is awesome
[05:54] <prodigy> but I want to switch before win 8
[05:54] <examancer> lol. must not be that awesome then
[05:54] <prodigy> but i don't know where to turn to
[05:54] <IdleOne> !language | marcagio
[05:54] <thomedy> it looks like a bunch of checkboxes to click off and that will remove them... and then i have no ppa's
[05:54] <rgenito_> hey you bastards! anyone know how to list the processors on a machine?:D
[05:54] <examancer> well telling ubuntu enthusiasts that their OS sucks is probably not a good place to start, prodigy
[05:55] <prodigy> lol
[05:55] <bazhang> prodigy, thats enough
[05:55] <bazhang> rgenito_, no cursing here
[05:55] <prodigy> i did not mean to do that
[05:55] <prodigy> okay
[05:56] <examancer> rgenito_: `cat /proc/cpuinfo` will give you a wealth of knowledge
[05:56] <examancer> if you want less, the system monitor will let you monitor load on each processor
[05:56] <thomedy> i have clicked off the ppas in the software center but my question is that the ppa in the link suggested seems to be for blender what is the proper ppa
[05:57] <examancer> thomedy: sorry, not familiar with blender ppa's, or blender at all
[05:57] <thomedy> i dont need blender
[05:57] <thomedy> i  need to update my icedtea plugin... sorry i hit enter again
[05:58] <examancer> not even sure what that is... java?
[05:58] <Floorduck> I keep getting Error 137 in chromium... :(
[05:58] <thomedy> yeah im pretty sure right now i jus tneed to apt-get update and i dont have i386 binary packages
[05:58] <thomedy> its kicking out an error
[05:58] <examancer> i can tell you how to manage PPAs, but i don't know dick about any particular ones, except the sublime ppa
[05:59] <thomedy> what ever one you tell me to get ill get... i only just now started reading about them with the link ^^
[05:59] <thomedy> i can run a *nix command but am a bit vague on admin
[05:59] <rgenito_> bazhang, cursing?you mean examancer saying s****s?
[05:59] <rgenito_> btw ty examancer  :)
[06:00] <rgenito_> oh cool! with 4 cpus, it looks like my intel i3 is probably dual core, with hyperthreading... right?
[06:00] <rgenito_> ;D
[06:00] <examancer> i can tone it down. didn't realy consider that cursing, but i have a fowl mouth and could stand to clean it a bit
[06:00] <examancer> rgenito_: that is correct
[06:01] <Floorduck> Can someone at least respond negatively to my question? :p
[06:02] <Floorduck> At least then I'll know that I'm being heard.. haha
[06:02] <phunyguy> how can I start an application minimized (like thunderbird) on launch if it doesnt have a command line parameter to do so?
[06:03] <examancer> Floorduck: I hear you, but I don't use Chromium. I use Chrome, but have no idea what that error would be.
[06:04] <examancer> I think I came in after you detailed your issue, but even still I doubt I can help. I empathize though... broken browsers suck.
[06:04] <Floorduck> Error 137: (net::ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED): Unknown error.
[06:04] <examancer> sounds like a DNS issue right off the bat
[06:04] <Floorduck> I'm pretty sure its not the browser
[06:04] <examancer> can you ping domains?
[06:04] <Cheapshot> Floorduck your problem isnt chrome related
[06:05] <Floorduck> oh hi cheapshot.
[06:05] <Cheapshot> Your wifi is running at 1mb/s rate for some reason
[06:06] <Floorduck> it says 65Mb/s now
[06:06] <thomedy> okay.... i have one last error... i pulled off the ppa's and then ran update and have this error
[06:06] <thomedy> http://pastebin.com/rPT3VkD7
[06:06] <Cheapshot> Is the router far from the laptop?
[06:06] <Floorduck> relatively
[06:06] <Floorduck> upstairs, one room to the right
[06:07] <Floorduck> Now its 1mb/s again.
[06:07] <Floorduck> I'm on my desktop computer, right next to my laptop
[06:07] <dwakar> I've got a bit of a problem, http://imagebin.org/228582
[06:08] <sl33k_> sudo scanimage -L gives device `genesys:libusb:002:005' is a Canon LiDE 110 flatbed scanner. but x-sane cant find any scanners. what gives?
[06:08] <Floorduck> It's running at 130 Mbps
[06:08] <Cheapshot> Floorduck You could try to change the wifi channel from the router for a better signal
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, here of a couple of commands try each individually the instructs are there. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208288/
[06:09] <thomedy> i am pretty married but i think i love you wildc4rd
[06:09] <thomedy> wilee-nilee,
[06:10] <Floorduck> Why would there be such a stark difference between the two computer's ability to access the web?
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> first is a set of commands I think you get it. ;) thomedy
[06:10] <Floorduck> I never have this problem on the windows partition
[06:12] <Cheapshot> Floorduck The wifi drivers for that specific wifi card seem to be bad or bugged, so it is not running as it should. Are you using the latest 12.04 lubuntu ?
[06:12] <Floorduck> I downloaded and installed it 2 days ago
[06:13] <Floorduck> I assume, although I dont have the version number right in front of me
[06:13] <Cheapshot> It is 12.04
[06:14] <Floorduck> windows seems really slow >.>
[06:14] <Cheapshot> Floorduck Disabling the wireless N mode from your lubuntu might help, but I dont know howto do it
[06:15] <thomedy> it looks to have worked wilee-nilee so thank you ... now just to remember why i did it in the first place... scroll up time but again thank you
[06:15] <Floorduck> the boot screen showed two windows options on sda3 and 4
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, Cool I wasn't sure on the bad sig had to google it, hehe, glad its working.
[06:15] <Floorduck> I hope I chose the right one >.<
[06:17] <dwakar> while running update manager i got following error: "failed to  download repository information" here's the snapshot http://imagebin.org/228582
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, I wondered if it was icetea notated after the post errors
[06:18] <thomedy> it is i had to boot around my desktop to figure wtf i was doing when i started
[06:20] <thomedy> jdk... still no home...
[06:23] <thomedy> crap in a hat and call it a lottery i just want to do math
[06:25] <Floorduck> what do you mean by that, cheapshot?
[06:29] <Floorduck> Is there any chance that shrinking a windows partition could cause the OS to run more slowly?
[06:32] <Floorduck> Anyone here? :o
[06:32] <gogeta> nope
[06:33] <Floorduck> in the GNU bootup menu thing I have more than one windows option D:
[06:33] <Floorduck> I dont understand...
[06:33] <david> does anyone here use gnome-shell
[06:34] <Floorduck> is there any way to view my partitions from terminal?
[06:34] <bitcoin_> hi
[06:35] <sdywcd> !
[06:37] <phunyguy> ok let me rephrase my question.  Is there a command to start an app completely hidden, and calling the app again unhides it?
[06:38] <phunyguy> i want thunderbird to launch at startup but only run in the background for notification reasons
[06:38] <phunyguy> devilspie seemed to ignore the fact that thunderbird is runnin
[06:38] <phunyguy> +g
[06:39] <thomedy> okay im running out of ideas
[06:39] <thomedy> cuz i have still no jdk home for my icedtea plugin update
[06:41] <tuffgong> how to configure router dlink
[06:41] <Floorduck> Is it bad that my 4th partition doesnt start on a physical sector boundary?
[06:44] <tuffgong> how to configure router dlink
[06:45] <marcagio> tuffgong you're in the wrong place
[06:46] <andreb> morning all
[06:46] <thomedy> okay im begging now i need my icedtea plugin to learn the math here and i cant update it at all everytime it says  it couldn't run it... but when i apt-get install icedtea 7 plugin it ssays the most current is there
[06:46] <thomedy> i have been doing this for a while now
[06:46] <andreb> i am following the instructions on this page to setup split dns for my emial server on ubuntu 10.04 http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Ubuntu_8.04_LTS_Server_(Hardy_Heron)_Install_Guide
[06:47] <andreb> but when i start the installer for the email it tells me it cant resolve my mx record
[06:55] <yaaic|demo> Guest12039: hi
[06:57] <ezio> why can't i apt-get install openbios-sparc
[06:57] <ezio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/openbios-sparc
[06:58] <ezio> E: Package 'openbios-sparc' has no installation candidate
[06:58] <ezio> Package openbios-sparc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:58] <ezio> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:58] <ezio> is only available from another source
[06:59] <Floorduck> Both windows and linux feel slow since I changed some partitions and installed linux... is that because a "Partition does not start on physical sector boundary?"
[07:02] <lauratika> why does sound settings show more than 100 percent slider chance?...
[07:06] <Smackbook> is there some wierd setting i could have set in 10.04 so that it wont send or recieve pings from any other machine on the network even though all the other machines can ping each other? and it's obviously on the network since http browsing works
[07:11] <gaelfx> I've got a fresh install of lubuntu, but it doesn't seem to have recognized my webcam, how can I get it to see the webcam?
[07:17] <gaelfx> test
[07:20] <prodigy> welcome back everyone
[07:20] <auronandace> !test | gaelfx
[07:20] <prodigy> what happened?
[07:20] <auronandace> !netsplit | prodigy
[07:20] <gaelfx> I've got a fresh install of lubuntu, but it doesn't seem to have recognized my webcam, how can I get it to see the webcam?
[07:20] <prodigy> ty for the info
[07:23] <timfrost> !webcam | gaelfx
[07:25] <thrasher194> !ubuntu
[07:25] <phunyguy> is it possible to tweak the unity launcher bar so it doesn't change colors depending on background?
[07:36] <juss> Hello ppl ! Smart status says that I have 9 dead sectors on my hdd , how can I lock them ? I cant buy I new hdd now . Is it possible to lock dead sectors? Any ideas pleas ?
[07:37] <juss> Sorry ... Typing from phone..
[07:38] <Smackbook> i think the file system does that automatically, the problem is your drive is dying
[07:39] <juss> Well yea hdd is dying, but I don't think that system is locking those sectors
[07:39] <juss> Probably
[07:40] <Floorduck> Is it a problem if my partitions arent lined up with physical sectors?
[07:40] <Floorduck> what does that even mean... :L
[07:40] <auronandace> juss: i wouldn't trust that harddrive with anything important anymore
[07:45] <juss> Hdd is working like this about 6 months , nothing missed, but system lagging a lot... I just thought there is a way to make it work better by locking those sectors..
[07:46] <auronandace> juss: make sure you backup what you need, that harddrive is only going to get worse
[07:47] <juss> Yea, sure
[07:47] <juss> auronandace: Thank you.
[07:49] <Aster|Thing> Hello everyone. I have a slight problem with upgrading from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04LTS. I loaded the 12.04 .iso onto my flash drive, and started installing the normal way. The installer offered an update that let me keep my data, and that' s what I chose. However, the installer froze midway, and I had to restart my computer. When I started the installer again, it no longer offered the 12.04 update, and claimed the partition was runn
[07:50] <Aster|Thing> But it' s not, and I can
[07:50] <Aster|Thing>  t boot anymore.
[07:50] <Aster|Thing> Any idea on how I can resume the update without losing my data?
[07:51] <tuffgong> how to configure router dlink
[07:52] <auronandace> tuffgong: that doesn't really have anything to do with ubuntu
[07:54] <rgenito_> man
[07:54] <rgenito_> you know what would be so awesome?
[07:54] <andreb> hi guys anyone ehre uses dnsmasq ?
[07:55] <tuffgong> auronandace, how can i use it  cuz
[07:55] <rgenito_> if there was a way to "right click" in unity on a single-button mouse. for example... by holding control and then clicking (sort of like on OSX)
[07:55] <szal> !anyone | andreb
[07:55] <tuffgong> auronandace, i want to share  with others
[07:55] <rgenito_> szal why not ... not care if a high %of people do something a certain way?
[07:55] <andreb> lol
[07:56] <rgenito_> seriously what else is s/he going to say? "who uses dnsmasq? :D"
[07:56] <andreb> i was following these instructions
[07:56] <andreb> http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Split_dns
[07:56] <andreb> i follow the steps.. and configured dnsmasq
[07:56] <andreb> but when i run it i got the following error
[07:56] <andreb> dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for 10.0.0.6: Address already in use
[07:57] <tuffgong> auronandace, so how can link pc by this router
[07:57] <auronandace> tuffgong: consult the router documentation
[07:57] <andreb> this is my dnsmasq.conf fiel http://pastebin.com/H3S9FbN8
[07:57] <szal> rgenito_: see? :)
[07:58] <rgenito_> hehehe
[07:58] <Floorduck> Could someone guide me through re-partitioning of my computer and the installation of lubuntu? :l
[07:58] <andreb> any ideas on what can e wrong :(
[07:58] <Floorduck> I installed linux as an auxillary OS on a newly-created partion.
[07:58] <szal> Floorduck: empty disk or dual-boot?
[07:59] <Floorduck> But I also resized the windows one and ended up with a partition that "did not start on a physical sector boundary"
[07:59] <Floorduck> dual-boot, I guess
[07:59] <tuffgong> auronandace, if so how can i access by using terminal  with the help of commands
[08:00] <szal> Floorduck: the physical sector boundary thing isn't important any more these days, the warning is there for historical reasons, I guess
[08:00] <stephans> hello
[08:00] <Floorduck> Perhaps a performance decrease in windows is simply in my head?
[08:00] <ezio> crap
[08:01] <stephans> is there a screen reader for ubuntu (not the one that reads the title bar and the menu items but the one that you can select text and have it read to you)?
[08:01] <ezio> my issue cannot be resolved
[08:01] <szal> Floorduck: depends on how much you've shrunk that Windows partition
[08:01] <Floorduck> I'm just worried that I've done something wrong and somehow tarnished the quality of my OS installs
[08:01] <Floorduck> Its 150 gigs
[08:01] <Floorduck> The laptop is brand new, so I'm not averse to reformatting if it means improved performance/reliability.
[08:02] <Calinou> windows + performance...?
[08:03] <Floorduck> I suppose I could abandon the idea of dualbooting and simply install linux...
[08:03] <szal> Floorduck: in that case: wipe the disk, use a Linux live CD to create one primary partition & format it w/ NTFS, install Windows on said partition, then install Linux & let the installer do the partitioning
[08:03] <Calinou> if you use windows-specific software, maybe not, though you can run windows software using Wine in linux
[08:04] <szal> Floorduck: a partition in the above named size range, that is
[08:04] <szal> leaving the rest of the HDD unpartitioned, the installer can then take care of that
[08:05] <szal> though I'm not entirely positive that this will improve performance
[08:05] <Floorduck> I'd prefer the cleanliness of such an installation :P
[08:05] <Floorduck> maybe that's weird but... oh well.
[08:06] <Floorduck> When I bought the laptop there were already 2 hidden drive which confused me somewhat while installing linux... would it be harmful to do away with them?
[08:07] <stephans> Floorduck, it could be...
[08:07] <ssta> Floorduck: they're usually where the windows reinstall stuff it
[08:07] <ssta> s/it/is/
[08:07] <guest49026> hii all
[08:07] <kevin> Floorduck: yeah, like recovery partitions
[08:07] <guest49026> i need help with camera
[08:07] <stephans> Floorduck, one partition is likely you system restore and the other one is a boot partition that allows you to encrypt the hard drive
[08:08] <guest49026> how i make a trigger with echo to start record
[08:09] <Floorduck> So I suppose I should keep them, then?
[08:09] <stephans> Floorduck, if you are not planning on keeping windows for commercial apps.. then you could simply destroy all the partitions and install ubuntu
[08:09] <Floorduck> I'm a bit afraid of doing that
[08:09] <Floorduck> You see, I know nothing about linux :[
[08:09] <stephans> Floorduck, however the standard i386 dos standard allows you to have 4 primary partition... you need atleast 2 for ubuntu
[08:10] <Wizard> Floorduck: Patient, be patient, my pretty young padawan ;P
[08:10] <ssta> Floorduck: keep them then
[08:10] <ssta> stephans: no, linux doesn't need any primary partitions
[08:10] <stephans> so you will need to create a logial partition with 2 partitions in it
[08:10] <stephans> as linux can boot from any device
[08:10] <Floorduck> It installed itself in an extended partiton I think
[08:10] <guest49026> how i make a trigger with echo to start record?
[08:10] <Floorduck> I already have 3 partitions, so it must have
[08:10] <Floorduck> 5*
[08:11] <stephans> Floorduck, correct
[08:11] <guest49026> i work now with zoneminder
[08:11] <prashant_123456> jrib, got it correctly thanks
[08:11] <stephans> Floorduck, personally I usually have a root partition and a home partition with a swap partition
[08:12] <stephans> Floorduck, this makes it really easy to re install
[08:12] <Floorduck> What are those? :o
[08:12] <stephans> while keeping setings and data
[08:12] <tuffgong> auronandace, if so how can i access by using terminal  with the help of commands
[08:13] <stephans> so does anyone know it there is a screen reader for ubuntu (not the one that reads the title bar and the menu items but the one that you can select text and have it read to you)?
[08:14] <guest49026> someone can help me with zoneminder?
[08:15] <szal> !details | guest49026
[08:17] <Floorduck> Okay, so my hidden partitions and my windows 7 partition are sda 1 through 3. The extended partition, sda4, presumably houses partitions sda 5 and 6, linux and swap. Sda4 "does not start on a physical sector boundary." Will this fact effect my computer negatively?
[08:18] <Deutopia> yes
[08:18] <Floorduck> and why is that? ;l
[08:18] <guest49026> szal, i want to make a buffer of 10 sec in zoneminder and trigger the recording by "signal" that i send to zoneminder,
[08:19] <mzehrer> can someone help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/189300/doubled-auto-start-entry-for-google-chrome?
[08:20] <zal> so anybody knows whats the best way to update on tvtuners ?
[08:21] <szal> zal: update what on TV tuners?
[08:21] <Floorduck> thanks to all who helped me out... ive got to go. bye.
[08:24] <panda> hi all
[08:24] <panda> !!!!
[08:24] <RPG-Master> Am I correct when I say that Ubuntu fully supports 802.11n?
[08:24] <internetN00b> I really hate gimp with so many little windows
[08:24] <internetN00b> :(
[08:25] <RPG-Master> I thought I remember that at one time Ubuntu didn't play well with N wireless
[08:25] <a-l-e> mmm internetN00b, yes, one big big window would be much better...
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> guys lets keep to support questions
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[08:27] <RPG-Master> I ask because I'm trying to move the one desktop off of a stupid CAT5  running through the hall way, and put it on wifi. But right now my speeds have gone from 25mbps to 10 and I'm making sure I get this set up to run as best as possible.
[08:33] <RPG-Master> No advice/answers?
[08:33] <ssta> RPG-Master: 10mbit/s doesn't sound awful.  If you only have one datastream (likely), then that's aroundabout right
[08:33] <blackshirt> sorry rpg-master, i just join here for a seconds,
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> RPG-Master:maybe try to ask a fulled described question
[08:34] <michy> CIAO\LIST
[08:34] <RPG-Master> ssta: Data stream = one connection?
[08:34] <michy> CIAO\ LIST RICHARD GERE
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> !it | michy
[08:36] <michy> join #ubuntu-it
[08:36] <michy> \join #ubuntu-it
[08:36] <RPG-Master> Sorry. My question is, does Ubuntu support Wireless N, or do I need to stick to G?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> michy: use a slash instead of a switch :)
[08:36] <ssta> RPG-Master: it's a bit more complex than that.  .11n achieves its (theoretical) maximum of 600Mbit by using 4 channels at once, and by driving 4 streams along each channel simultaneously (sort of).  Basically ignore that the box says it can do 600mbit, that's an aggregate rate for many devices at once in theoretical optimal conditions...
[08:37] <blackshirt> rpg-master, i think yes
[08:37] <ssta> RPG-Master: ubuntu supports N if your card supports N
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> RPG-Master:ubuntu supports all wifi
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ssta: and if the driver supports it
[08:37] <ssta> RPG-Master: but N isn't all that the box on the N router claims for it
[08:37] <ssta> ActionParsnip: true
[08:37] <RPG-Master> Well, I'm not expecting to full 300mbps on the box, but I do want whatever will get me as close to my wired connection speed.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: is it a centrino wifi chip?
[08:38] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: ath9k...?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: thats the driver module, what is the chip please?
[08:39] <Dyrk> Consulta, tengo una pc corriendo ubuntu 12,04 y window$ xp, la pregunta es si es posible hacer la actualización  xp a w7 sin que borre mi querido ubuntu?
[08:39] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Sorry, let me look for it.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[08:39] <RPG-Master> Thanks
[08:39] <szal> !es  | Dyrk
[08:40] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip:  PCI (sysfs)
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: wait, your PCI bus s slow
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> *is
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: just the product line will do :)
[08:41] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: oh man, one of those :(
[08:41] <Tico> ubottu: !nomodeset | Tico
[08:42] <RPG-Master> I swear, sometimes I wonder if I've learned anything since I started Ubuntu-ing with 8.04
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: thats the Ethernet controller, not wireless
[08:42] <Tico> whats the command to send private message?
[08:42] <RPG-Master> CRAP
[08:42] <RPG-Master> hold one
[08:42] <RPG-Master> *on
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Tico:    /msg username text
[08:42] <szal> RPG-Master: if you want to learn something, use Gentoo or Slackware or Arch.. much less handholding
[08:42] <Tico> ActionParsnip: thanks
[08:43] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip:  AR5418 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5008E 802.11(a)bgn] (PCI-Express)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: or even debian for slightly less handholding than ubuntu
[08:43] <RPG-Master> Sorry for that first one :P
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc     please
[08:45] <RPG-Master> I should have tried to learn more while I was in highschool and still had free time. :P
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc     please
[08:45] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: quantal
[08:46] <RPG-Master> Yeah, running the beta here
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: then you are in the wrong channel
[08:46] <e-v-o> what's the easiest way to install Ubuntu into a USB pen drive?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: #ubuntu+1 for Quantal til release day
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: unetbootin imho
[08:46] <e-v-o> can I make it in OS X?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: yes there is unetbootin for Mac too
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: its on the unetbootin website
[08:47] <e-v-o> sweet, I'll investigate, thanks.
[08:47] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Very sorry, I totally forgot that I shouldn't ask questions pertaining to anything involving a beta running computer.
[08:48] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: It's late here and I'm not thinking straight. :(
[08:48] <Dyrk> See, I have a pc running ubuntu 12.04 and $ window xp, the question is whether it is possible to upgrade xp to w7 without deleting my dear ubuntu?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: you can, just not in here. This is for released versions, the prereleases are always supported in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <e-v-o> ActionParsnip: ah wait. I meant to install on the drive not to create a Live USB disk, which basically copying the installation image to the USB instead of installing to the usb.
[08:48] <ssta> Dyrk: it's unlikely to delete ubuntu, it IS likely to remove tyhe bootloader though
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Dyrk: I'd personally do a fresh reinstall
[08:49] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: That's what I mean, I knew about #ubuntu+1, but forgot about just now. :P
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Dyrk: leave unpartitioned space to install Ubuntu to when you install Windows
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: no worries dude :)
[08:49] <RPG-Master> But yeah, sorry for troubling y'all. :)
[08:52] <e-v-o> ActionParsnip: did you see my msg?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: you can make a persistance so changes stick
[08:53] <e-v-o> ActionParsnip: but it is technically the installation disk right?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: yes but the changes you make along the way are saved so you can upgrade the OS and so forth
[08:53] <e-v-o> actually I wonder, what are the difference between the Live CD and the actual installation?!
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: one is on CD, one is on the HDD
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: you can do anything in the liveCD that you can do in an installed OS except reboot to a later kernel
[08:56] <Deutopia> as far as i can tell the only difference is the casper-rw file (or partition)
[08:57] <e-v-o> what is the point of the installation then? I thought it got more specific drivers for the current machine, instead of generic ones used by the Live CD.
[08:58] <e-v-o> i.e better performance
[08:58] <Deutopia> not all the apps are installed, and there are some limitations / things you have to workaround that you wouldnt in an installed version
[08:59] <apg> Guys, I want to ask something. Why don't the menus in Libreoffice be alike the others' apps-menu in unity?
[08:59] <ssta> you do get better performance (disk is generally a LOT faster than CD for example).  The livecd needs a large chunk of memory as a ramdisk to unpack things into that you don't need when installed...
[08:59] <Deutopia> and i might be wrong, but i think in persistent mode, deleting files just gets them out of your face. you cant re-use the disk space the deleted file occupied
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: no, the OS is identical. ust saves you having to slow boot each time and have to keep extra media  handy
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> apg: do you have lo-menubar installed?
[09:00] <apg> nope
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> apg: thats probably going to be a step in the right direction
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: you are also limited to storage in RAM, so you will have finitite storage as your apps also need RAM to execute
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> !info lo-menubar
[09:01] <e-v-o> ssta: yes I know that. That's why I am trying to install it on a USB pen drive.
[09:02] <Deutopia> e-v-o; and i might be wrong, but i think in persistent mode, deleting files just gets them out of your face. you cant re-use the disk space the deleted file occupied
[09:02] <e-v-o> Deutopia: so how can I install to the USB drive instead of just copying the Live CD image across?
[09:03] <ssta> e-v-o: oh, sorry, I thought you wanted to put the installer on the USB.  Umm, I have installed to a pendrive a few releases ago (Lucid I think), not sure, but I think I used the alternate installer so I could control where teh boot record went
[09:03] <e-v-o> ssta: is there a how-to?
[09:04] <ssta> e-v-o: I dunno, pretty sure I didn't use a howto
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/a-much-easier-way-to-install-ubuntu-on-a-usb-device-stick-or-hd.html
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: there are lots of how-tos online, have a look
[09:04] <e-v-o> and could I take the installed ubuntu USB and plug it into any computer?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: yes
[09:05] <apg> e-v-o, based on my experience, yes
[09:06] <e-v-o> thanks ActionParsnip, that's a heck of a how-to!! : )
[09:06] <apg> But, you'll have to change the Boot Priority option everytime you want to run it on other computers
[09:06] <e-v-o> apg: ah yes.
[09:06] <Deutopia> e-v-o; just install as normal, but during the partitioner section, make sure you are only installing to the USB and that the bootloader (grub) is installing to the USB
[09:06] <e-v-o> apg: do you know how to do that on a mac?
[09:07] <e-v-o> Deutopia: yeah the boot loader appears to be the tricky bit!
[09:07] <apg> Well, haven't give a hand on a mac, so far :))
[09:08] <Deutopia> in the partitioner screen: scroll down. make sure you have the correct "sd" selected
[09:08] <Deutopia> the mac uses an Intel CPU so i dont think it would really be different
[09:09] <Deutopia> i used to install yellowdog onto old imacs and it was the same as installing buntu
[09:10] <e-v-o> Deutopia: I'm going to try your method now.  ActionParsnip's how-to mentions editing the grub file manually after installation, which I am likely to mess up : )
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: you should be ok
[09:11] <apg> By the way, e-v-o, why don't you just make the ubuntu install in flash-disk via the startup-disk-creator?
[09:12] <e-v-o> apg: how so?
[09:12] <apg> Sorry, if I missed something in the conversation.
[09:12] <ssta> apg: because that's basically just putting the live CD on the USB stick, which isn't what he wants
[09:12] <Deutopia> every time i try that startup-disk creator i end up having to re-install grub cuz it wont boot.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Deutopia: do you use EUFI or whatever it is now?
[09:13] <Deutopia> no
[09:13] <Guido1> hello, i have some problems with the sound on ubuntu 10.04
[09:13] <Guido1> there are some songs and sounds i can play with totem without problems, but if i open them with VLC or try to use them as a mailalert by mozilla they don't sound corrrectly. what can i do to fix it?
[09:14] <apg> Well, the docs in the live session still can be saved though
[09:14] <apg> in persistent filesystem mode
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> could grab an extra HDD and install to that instead
[09:14] <Deutopia> you cant re-use disk space in persistent mode
[09:15] <ssta> apg: sure, but it still has all the other disadvantages of live (you can't customise much, you can't really install packages, it's slow, it eats up massive amounts of RAM...)
[09:15] <apg> Okay, if that's the reason :)
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Could just use puppy :)
[09:16] <Deutopia> im stuck with persistent mode cuz my HDD broke and it wont install to the flash drive (something wrong with the drive), but it works fine in persistent mode
[09:17] <Deutopia> i notice the larger the USB device's storage capacity, the longer it takes to boot. but other than that i have no problems installing packages
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> is there a faster pfd reader for ubuntu then default?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> *pdf
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: mupdf, xpdf
[09:18] <ssta> lotuspsychje: never noticed that the default was slow, but gv should be about as fast as it gets
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: i've not seen faster than mupdf
[09:18] <apg> Guys, anybody run ubuntu on coreboot?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf > lotuspsychje
[09:19] <speiros> Hello fellow ubuntu users
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:guilhem-fr/mupdf; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mupdf
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx mate its installing already without ppa
[09:19] <Deutopia> redo backup & recovery uses clonezilla right? i notice Redo mounts the recovered drive as readonly (making it useless). i should be able to just use clonezilla to restore the backup made with redo?
[09:20] <apg> Hello, speiros
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> !info mupdf
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[09:20] <speiros> All the best, and I'll be back when I have a better internet connection, and a later version of ubuntu, or if I have a problem.  Take care.
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx mate very light and no page loading anymore now, cool pagebrowsing with left/right
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: fast as lightening, I proposed it for Lubuntu but it lacks features apparently
[09:23] <Deutopia> lubuntu lacks features
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[09:23] <faLUCE>  hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic
[09:24] <Kartagis> hi
[09:24] <Kartagis> what does hvc0 mean in a ps x output=
[09:24] <e-v-o> Deutopia: I'm running the installation and came to the Installation Type screen with 3 options...
[09:24] <Guido1>  hello, i have some problems with the sound on ubuntu 10.04.   there are some songs and sounds i can play with totem without problems, but if i open them with VLC or try to use them as a mailalert by mozilla they don't sound corrrectly. what can i do to fix it?
[09:25] <ssta> Kartagis: it's part of the Xen infrastructure
[09:25] <e-v-o> 1. Intall alongside… 2. Erase disk and install… 3. Something else...
[09:25] <ssta> Kartagis: "HyperVisor Console 0" IIRC
[09:25] <e-v-o> if i pick 2. can I then selected the USB drive?
[09:26] <Kartagis> ssta: phew, so somebody is logged on with xm console?
[09:26] <Kartagis> s/with/via/
[09:26] <ssta> Kartagis: I *think* it's always there if you're running under Xen, but I'm not sure
[09:27] <ssta> I don't have any Xen enabled systems right now to check with
[09:27] <Kartagis> I'll have to check that, I don't remember seeing it before
[09:27] <Kartagis> I'll just kill it
[09:27] <Deutopia> e-v-o; pick something else
[09:27] <e-v-o> guys, to do a custom installation on a USB drive, what mount points do I need to select? : /
[09:28] <Deutopia> partition only the USB and install only to USB and make sure bootloader installs to USB (scroll down)
[09:28] <Deutopia> "/" for the big one and a small swap
[09:28] <e-v-o> yes but apparently I have to manually specify which mount points go where!!
[09:28] <Deutopia> small like as much ram is in your system
[09:29] <e-v-o> oh, so I must create 2 partitions on the USB?
[09:29] <Deutopia> yes delete the USB drives partition and create a new ext4 partition and mount as "/"
[09:29] <fanthagir> e-v-o, like swap and /
[09:30] <Deutopia> "/" is kinda like "C:\" in winblows
[09:30] <fanthagir> e-v-o, btw it s much slower I think on USB
[09:30] <fanthagir> e-v-o, mainly boot
[09:30] <msmith0957> Oh, hey there ActionParsnip. Problem under control, thanks.
[09:30] <e-v-o> fanthagir: I know but it's faster than Live CD right?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> msmith0957: awesome
[09:30] <fanthagir> e-v-o, right
[09:30] <ssta> *LOTS* faster than Live CD
[09:30] <Deutopia> yes. USB is serial. can only read or write at 1 time. cant do both at the same time. plus it is a very slow bus
[09:31] <e-v-o> I know, but this is the compromise my gf agreed to after I told her I could not warranty a risk free installation of Ubuntu alongside Win.
[09:32] <e-v-o> it would be so handy if there was a visual way of creating partitions in the installer...
[09:32] <ssta> e-v-o: if you have an external; SATA port, I've found that installing to an SSD connected to that works amazingly well
[09:33] <e-v-o> ssta: sadly not, it's a fairly old laptop.
[09:33] <Deutopia> you can install ubuntu inside windows (like it was any other app and uninstall later if you choose) if you use Wubi
[09:33] <ssta> shame
[09:34] <e-v-o> Deutopia: yeah I know, someone suggested that yesterday but then I'd have to re-install Ubuntu if I decide to wipe Windows later (fingers crossed ; )
[09:34] <ssta> e-v-o: another alternative is to install inside win, but in a VM (both virtualbox and vmware-player are free and work pretty well)
[09:35] <Kartagis> ssta: I confirmed that it's actually someone logged in via xm console because the line also reads -bash, but when somebody is sitting there via xm console but not logged in, what previously read -bash now reads /sbin/mingetty console, but it still reads hvc0
[09:35] <Jordan_U> e-v-o: There is a visual way to create partitions in the installer.
[09:35] <Guido1> i have some problems with the sound on ubuntu 10.04.     there are some songs and sounds i can play with totem without problems, but if i open them with VLC or try to use them as a mailalert by mozilla they don't sound corrrectly. what can i do to fix it?
[09:35] <ssta> Kartagis: ah, that makes sense
[09:35] <Kartagis> s/actually/indees
[09:35] <e-v-o> ssta: yep, but the whole point of using Ubuntu is because the machine is so over bloated with crap that a snail can overtake it.
[09:35] <Kartagis> s/actually/indeed/
[09:35] <Deutopia> really, other than taking 10 minutes to fully boot, installing on USB is a great option and should be recommended / explained more
[09:35] <e-v-o> ssta: so virtualising I don't think would improve the user experience.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: does it affect all users?
[09:36] <blackshirt> i think that was right
[09:36] <ssta> Deutopia: feel free to write some HOWTOs
[09:36] <Deutopia> (20 minutes if its USB 1.1)
[09:36] <Kartagis> Deutopia: what's taking 10 minutes to fully boot, Ubuntu?
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  any reason why you don't upgrade to 12.04?
[09:36] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: i'm the only user of the laptop
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: make a new one to test then.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: your OS can hold literally billions of users
[09:37] <Kartagis> Deutopia: ah, through USB
[09:37] <Deutopia> kartagis; 'buntu when installed to USB
[09:37] <Deutopia> yeah
[09:37] <Kartagis> Deutopia: any chance to test that with USB 3.0?
[09:37] <e-v-o> guys, I need help creating these partitions. for the /boot is it primary or logic?
[09:37] <Kartagis> (just curious)
[09:38] <Guido1> MonkeyDust: yes, my laptop is not the best and to slow for the newer versions. moreover i don't like the new design very much
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: you won't need a separate /boot partition, just make one for / and one for swap
[09:38] <Deutopia> nope im literally a bum and cant be buying nice things like a replacement hard drive or a new comp w/ USB3
[09:38] <ssta> I have 60ish servers still on 10.04...and I doubt they'll ever get 12.04
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  support for 10.04 will sooon end
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> soon*
[09:38] <WACOMalt> hey folks, how can I change the icon on a unity dash shortcut?
[09:38] <apg> I think it is not really necessary to create a partition for /boot
[09:38] <WACOMalt> or change the command?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> e-v-o: Either one works, though having a separate /boot/ is pointless unless you have a buggy BIOS. Also, why are you using manual rather than guided partitioning?
[09:39] <e-v-o> Sooy, I meant /swap ActionParsnip… oops
[09:39] <e-v-o> *sorry
[09:39] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: i think that depends on the space and because of the space i'm always working with external HDs. how can i creat a new user?
[09:39] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: because during install I chose something else and I am trying got install to USB drive.
[09:40] <fidel> hi - question regarding the cli rss app newsbeuter - in case someone is using it on ubuntu as well. is there an option to let the 'open article in browser' action open the link in the background & not lose the focus from the newsbeuter main-window? right now tthe window-focus jumps mit every open action to firefox which is annoying for me. tried asking in #newsbeuter already without feedback so far.
[09:40] <Jordan_U> e-v-o: Why did you chose "something else"?
[09:40] <kanliot> i'm trying to help a user doing apt-get upgrade on a new install.  Is there any reason he's doing apt-get upgrade?  I don't understand
[09:40] <skraito> hi guys
[09:40] <Guido1> MonkeyDust: then i will probaply switch to kubuntu or keep the last version
[09:40] <skraito> whats the application for converting file to youtube format ?
[09:40] <WACOMalt> Is 12.04LTS still the newest Ubuntu?
[09:40] <skraito> for ubuntu
[09:40] <ssta> WACOMalt: yes
[09:40] <WACOMalt> kk
[09:40] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: Because I'm trying to install to USB pen drive. I NOT want to remove the current OS nor do I want to install alongside it.
[09:41] <ssta> WACOMalt: 12.10 is in beta right now (will release next month)
[09:41] <WACOMalt> Another question, has Ubuntu Studio switched to Unity yet?
[09:41] <Deutopia> best option is to make an ext4 "/" partition. then a 800MB swap partition
[09:41] <apg> the newest point release 12.04.1
[09:42] <Jordan_U> e-v-o: Installing to USB should not require chosing "something else", but it doesn't hurt anything to use manual partitioning (it's just more work).
[09:42] <WACOMalt> What are some good way to speed up an Ubuntu that was installed onto USB 2.0 drive?
[09:42] <Deutopia> Jordan_U, whoa dude. thats not the deal. you are going to get him in trouble.
[09:42] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: oh, what's the easiest way then? The other 2 options sounded too scary to try out : )
[09:42] <Jordan_U> Deutopia: What do you mean?
[09:43] <Deutopia> e-v-o; if you dont "choose something else" it will install to your hard drive which is what you dont want
[09:43] <fidel> WACOMalt: bootchart might help hhecking the boot process in general in detail. maybe a first step towards messing around with optimization
[09:43] <WACOMalt> manual partitioning is for those that know how to do manual partitioning. There is nothing bad or good about it aside from its more risky if you dont know what you are doing.
[09:43] <e-v-o> Deutopia: that's what I thought
[09:43] <WACOMalt> fidel, ok cool I'll look into that
[09:43] <kanliot> manual partitioning also requires more RAM to run in ubiquity
[09:43] <e-v-o> Ok, I'll halt everything till there's consensus in the room : )
[09:43] <WACOMalt> meeeehhhhhh
[09:44] <apg> Agree with deutopia
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Deutopia: I've installed Ubuntu to a USB drive without using manual partitioning (though admittedly, that was with an older version of Ubuntu).
[09:44] <WACOMalt> I just did recently O_o
[09:44] <WACOMalt> it let me choose it as a drive just like my hard drives
[09:44] <WACOMalt> like.. I literally just finished doing that :P
[09:45] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: but then doesn't the boot loader installt o the hard drive and crap out the host OS?
[09:45] <WACOMalt> didnt for me
[09:45] <Deutopia> partition USB into an 800MB swap partition and the rest as an ext4 "/" partition and make sure bootloader installs to the USB.
[09:45] <WACOMalt> how would it know which drive to put it on if it wasnt on the drive you chose?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> Deutopia: e-v-o: Ubiquity has code to detect that you are installing to USB and when it detects that it will install grub to that same usb drive.
[09:45] <WACOMalt> ah
[09:46] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: we like smart soft :D
[09:46] <WACOMalt> oh hey, how can I build from source code into a deb file?
[09:46] <Guido1> MonkeyDust: ActionParsnip: What can I do to fix it? In the beginning it worked and on another computer it is still working
[09:46] <Deutopia> yes evo, by default ubuntu is going to do the right thing and install grub into your hard drive which is what you dont want, thus why we are choosing something else, manually partitioning the USB and installing to USB ONLY
[09:47] <Deutopia> Jordan_U Ubiquity doesnt always get things right.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Deutopia: Fair enough.
[09:47] <WACOMalt> its not about which is right or wrong, they are both right.
[09:47] <WACOMalt> its which is more dangerous :P
[09:47] <e-v-o> Jordan_U: if it's that simple why does the option 2. Erase Disk and install ubuntu come with a red WARNING that all programs, docs, etc will be ERASED?
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Deutopia: If you've encountered a case where guided install to a USB drive installed grub elsewhere though please file a bug report.
[09:48] <WACOMalt> because they will be erased?
[09:48] <Deutopia> i say he is better off just using a persistent USB untill he decides wether or not to install
[09:48] <WACOMalt> that's true
[09:48] <WACOMalt> it'll run faster anyways
[09:48] <WACOMalt> which begs the question... why does live USB run faster than installed USB?
[09:48] <kanliot> persistent usb is slow
[09:49] <WACOMalt> or at least it did fo rmew
[09:49] <WACOMalt> *for me
[09:49] <e-v-o> oh really?!
[09:49] <WACOMalt> from my limited, non-pro, experience... yes. but Id listen to these guys
[09:49] <Jordan_U> WACOMalt: The data is compressed, and therefore the effects of the slow drive are less noticeable.
[09:49] <apg> yeah, persistent usb-disk. Quite fast actually, also, for me
[09:49] <WACOMalt> gotcha
[09:50] <WACOMalt> I need 64GB of persistance tho :P
[09:50] <Deutopia> it depends on the computer. i have 2 laptops that run from USB. a compaq Evo made in 2001 and a Gateway NV53 made in 2010. The Evo runs faster as installed and the NV53 runs faster as persistent mode
[09:50] <e-v-o> so guys? what should I do?
[09:50] <WACOMalt> so can anyone lead me through making a DEB installer from my source code tree?
[09:50] <Deutopia> partition USB into an 800MB swap partition and the rest as an ext4 "/" partition and make sure bootloader installs to the USB.
[09:51] <WACOMalt> granted I have to install OpenCL/Cuda headers first, which is a whole different monster to tackle...
[09:51] <e-v-o> btw my usb stick is 16gb
[09:51] <Deutopia> you still havent done that?
[09:51] <kanliot> put swap on usb?  why not just no swap
[09:51] <WACOMalt> my usb is 64GB flash drive
[09:51] <blackshirt> wacomalt, read debian/ubuntu packaging guide
[09:51] <WACOMalt> cand you do ramdisk for swap?
[09:51] <WACOMalt> kk where can I find that blackshirt ?
[09:52] <Jordan_U> WACOMalt: "ramdisk for swap" makes no sense at all.
[09:52] <blackshirt> wacomalt, google it, you should find it
[09:52] <WACOMalt> gotcha
[09:52] <WACOMalt> still a newb :/
[09:52] <WACOMalt> I mean.. like run the whole system in ram
[09:52] <WACOMalt> I have 16GB ram, Id like to do that
[09:53] <blackshirt> wacomalt, that was possible
[09:53] <WACOMalt> was?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> WACOMalt: It can be done from a LiveCD/USB system by passing the "toram" kernel parameter.
[09:53] <blackshirt> yes, you know live cd was run entirely on ram
[09:54] <WACOMalt> still though, "was" ?   is it not any more?
[09:54] <blackshirt> some distro,like tinycore linux using this technique
[09:54] <Jordan_U> WACOMalt: The toram kernel parameter for live systems still works, I don't know what blackshirt is refferring to though.
[09:54] <blackshirt> I mean, run from ram
[09:54] <WACOMalt> oohh
[09:55] <blackshirt> don't be screwed up guys :d
[09:56] <WACOMalt> thoughts on this blackshirt: http://code.google.com/p/debianpackagemaker/ ?
[09:56] <blackshirt> wqcomalt, a lot of guide spread on internet,
[09:56] <Jordan_U> WACOMalt: Honestly though, copying all files into RAM at boot will probably only save time when starting programs (and only the first time they're started). Once any file is read, if you have free RAM then linux will cache it for later use and only release that cache if the memory is needed (in which case it's good that it can be dropped).
[09:56] <WACOMalt> yeah, and they are all fairly different :/
[09:57] <blackshirt> like with keyword search, ubuntu packaging guide
[09:57] <e-v-o> DIstopia: I'm back where I started trying to decide between primary or logical for / and /swap
[09:57] <Jordan_U> e-v-o: Either will work. I would recommend logical, just so you don't run out of primary partitions.
[09:57] <WACOMalt> Hmm looks like Cuda toolkit is only available for 11.04 :/
[09:57] <Deutopia> primary for "/" and it doesnt matter for swap. either one works
[09:58] <e-v-o> would you place swat at the beginning or end?
[09:58] <Deutopia> this is USB. he isnt going to run out of primaries
[09:58] <e-v-o> */swap
[09:58] <Deutopia> swap at the end
[09:58] <ssta> e-v-o: doesn't really matter
[09:58] <kanliot> swap on usb?
[09:58] <e-v-o> ssta: of cours course not, the USB is not spinning lol
[09:58] <kanliot> how much ram u have
[09:59] <e-v-o> how can I see the ram from live CD?
[09:59] <ssta> free -m
[09:59] <WACOMalt> well folks, wish me luck. I'm about to try all the kernel modules and stuff that are needed for Cuda building. But they are all for 11.04 and I'm on 12.04... here's hoping it doesnt break my system
[09:59] <e-v-o> (it's not my laptop)
[10:00] <blackshirt> wacomalt, good luck..you sit on different version
[10:00] <WACOMalt> yup :/
[10:00] <WACOMalt> the guide Im following is for 12.04 with these files though. I have hope!
[10:01] <WACOMalt> wonder if I need to do the cuda driver if Im only planning to build, and not run
[10:01] <WACOMalt> does building ever actually use your hardware drivers? O_o
[10:02] <blackshirt> wacomalt, just try to compile and look the error says
[10:02] <WACOMalt> eh whatever I made a full system image an hour ago. if it all break I can go back
[10:02] <WACOMalt> I plan to break my system, but build a deb file, then rollback and install it :P
[10:02] <internetN00b> as much as I love Ubuntu but I have to go back to windows
[10:02] <internetN00b> :'(
[10:02] <blackshirt> wacomalt, no, it just build binary version from your soureces
[10:02] <WACOMalt> ok cool
[10:02] <internetN00b> software compatibility/quality on Ubuntu is really a problem
[10:02] <WACOMalt> I'll see if it builds without the driver installed then first
[10:03] <Deutopia> e-v-o; really what you should do is forget that. open the partioner on your live CD and partition the USB as 2GB Fat16 and 13GB ext2 labeled "casper-rw". after you make those 2 partitions, reboot to windows, download Lili from www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download  and create a Live USB with persistence. then delete the "casper-rw" file in windows and reboot. You now have linux.
[10:03] <e-v-o> Distopia: arm… there's no /swap option in the Mount point drop down!!!
[10:03] <blackshirt> wacomalt, seem a bad plan
[10:03] <WACOMalt> internetN00b, yup. That's open source
[10:03] <WACOMalt> wait, no its not... that's jus tlinux
[10:03] <internetN00b> I do love the gnome desktop though
[10:04] <WACOMalt> blackshirt, probably. I have built this before correctly, but the drivers eventually messed up my system and I had to reinstall
[10:04] <WACOMalt> so now I'm PLANNING on the failing, but will make the deb first
[10:04] <internetN00b> the integration of the software in the desktop is very nice. but when it comes to productivity it is nowhere as good as on windows
[10:04] <WACOMalt> ^ came in here to complain about linux not being windows?
[10:04] <blackshirt> wacomalt, that look a same thing but through different way
[10:05] <ssta> internetN00b: personally I find the opposite, but different people have different needs, so whatever suits you best is fine
[10:05] <WACOMalt> blackshirt, ...what?
[10:05] <internetN00b> ssta, true.
[10:05] <internetN00b> I am a bit sad though... Ubuntu does have some killing features..
[10:05] <blackshirt> wacomalt, a same build binary drivers
[10:05] <internetN00b> that I don't want to miss
[10:05] <WACOMalt> ah ok
[10:05] <WACOMalt> internetN00b, run it in a VM then
[10:05] <ssta> internetN00b: so use both
[10:06] <WACOMalt> its what I did until I had room for both on my drives
[10:06] <internetN00b> ssta, I don't want to dual boot
[10:06] <Deutopia> so use both and virtualize 1?
[10:06] <WACOMalt> then run as a VM
[10:06] <ssta> internetN00b: that's what VMs are for
[10:06] <WACOMalt> Virtualbox is free so is the OS
[10:06] <internetN00b> I have been tring to run win in a virtualbox but it is verys low
[10:06] <WACOMalt> did you install guest extras?
[10:06] <e-v-o> Deutopia: why FAT16 isn't that a stone age fs?!
[10:06] <internetN00b> yes, I did
[10:06] <ssta> internetN00b: so go the other way...run win as primary and ubuntu in a VM
[10:07] <WACOMalt> internetN00b, no idea then. mine runs great.
[10:07] <WACOMalt> ok all my stuff is done, I have to kill xserver, so bbiab folks
[10:07] <Deutopia> e-v-o; Why fat16: cuz windows needs to write to it and because Fat16 is WAY FASTER than Fat32.
[10:07] <faLUCE> is there a solution for that? http://click.wetfish.net/current.php?page=usb-woes
[10:10] <e-v-o> Distopia: does /swap need to be Fat though?
[10:10] <e-v-o> Deutopia: ^
[10:11] <Deutopia> with persistent mode there is no swap partition
[10:11] <e-v-o> ah
[10:12] <e-v-o> any advantages of ext3 and ext4 over ext2?
[10:13] <kanliot> e-v-o, if you wanted ubuntu to run not like a turd, you wouldn't install to a usb flash
[10:13] <Deutopia> ext2 is fast (like fat16) and for this method to work, use ext2. i have never used anything but ext2 for the ext2 partition labeled casper-rw
[10:14] <e-v-o> kanliot: I know, I'm installing to USB because gf doesn't want to risk loosing Win and Live CD is just too slow.
[10:14] <Deutopia> kanliot; it is just to try ubuntu out for a while untill the woman warms up to linux
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: ext2 has no jounal so will reduce writes to the device
[10:14] <Deutopia> kanliot; she wont let him install to the hard drive
[10:15] <billc> lol change a womans mind stick to linux
[10:16] <kanliot> i bought a full PC with monitor, mouse, keyboard 3d acceleration for $60 this year
[10:16] <e-v-o> uh oh, Live CD just crashed: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer reference!!!!
[10:16] <kanliot> NULL pointers means you have NULLS on your pc
[10:16] <blackshirt> lol
[10:16] <e-v-o> yay!
[10:17]  * e-v-o sighs as he pushes the off switch.
[10:17] <blackshirt> e-v-o, thats sound bad thing
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kanliot: yes, you have /dev/null
[10:18] <kanliot> dev/null belongs to devon
[10:18] <e-v-o> what was supposed to be a 30min job is turning out to not happen at all
[10:18] <Deutopia> worste thing you can hear your woman say?  My hard drive came!
[10:18] <kanliot> i can't read that file anyhow
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kanliot: its not a file, its a device
[10:19] <blackshirt> i think /dev/null and NULL was different thing
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kanliot: well, technically it is a file
[10:19] <Deutopia> e-v-o; www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download     <-just go here
[10:20] <e-v-o> yeah I'll boot into win
[10:20] <Deutopia> windows app that makes a linux USB without messing with hard stuff
[10:20] <e-v-o> how do you open a laptop's cd drive with pc switched off?
[10:21] <Deutopia> get a paper clip or something to jam in the hole
[10:21] <ssta> e-v-o: there's usually a little hole you can stick a paperclip into to release teh catch
[10:21] <kanliot> ubiquity kills another user experience.  thanks gods of ubiquity
[10:21] <Deutopia> no we did
[10:22] <Deutopia> it was 1 simple step.  www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[10:23] <ougogo> Hi all, how can I download a lubuntu distribution with the most recent kernel ?
[10:23] <blackshirt> ougogo download the last release
[10:23] <Deutopia> just install the most recent version from the website from an internet connected PC and allow updateing while install
[10:23] <e-v-o> ironic hat I have to download a windows program to install Ubuntu to a USB!!
[10:24] <Deutopia> no u didnt have to you just had too many people shouting different right answers
[10:24] <peetaur2> !glxgears
[10:24] <kanliot> windows is also more secure, it doesn't have that malicious free software ;)
[10:24] <nootilus> hello !
[10:24] <blackshirt> hello nootilus
[10:25] <kanliot> ougogo, i'm running kernel 3.5.0-14 and 3.2.0-30 on my lubuntus
[10:25] <nootilus> je sais pas si je suis sur le bon chan... Encrypt, ça vous dit quelqu'un ?
[10:25] <codescience> kanliot: your words are mixed up i think
[10:25] <codescience> windows more secure? pffft
[10:26] <Deutopia> how do you harden a windows PC? virtualize linux
[10:26] <nootilus> oh, oops, sorry, obvisouly it's not the right chan
[10:26] <nootilus> lol
[10:26] <blackshirt> lol
[10:27] <e-v-o> : )
[10:27] <kanliot> that reminds me of my question, why would you do an : apt-get upgrade on a new install of ubuntu?
[10:27] <kanliot> any reason or just confused
[10:27] <codescience> kanliot: to update to the latest packages
[10:27] <nootilus> kanliot, because the CD image misses some updates ?
[10:28] <kanliot> isn't that apt-get update?
[10:28] <Deutopia> function timed out during install
[10:28] <codescience> apt-get updates your repos
[10:28] <e-v-o> oh god help us, lli is downloading at 56k modem speeds!
[10:28] <codescience> apt-get upgrade updates the system with the latest packages from the repo list
[10:28] <nootilus> kanliot, actually I just set up ubuntu on this machine. sudo apt-get update didn't do anything, but sudo apt-get upgrade installed several megas of updates :)
[10:28] <e-v-o> *lili
[10:29] <Deutopia> free means no money to pay for bandwidth
[10:29] <nootilus> cya, pals
[10:30] <e-v-o> i thought open source dvs did all of it for free because you're swimming in pools of donations ; )
[10:31] <e-v-o> 5% downloaded
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: try using apt-fast :)
[10:32] <e-v-o> I'm in a win box downloading Lili
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: or use torrents for downloading ISOs :)
[10:32] <e-v-o> is lili on torrent?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: what is lili?
[10:32] <Deutopia> lili is a windows ap. you should download it in windows
[10:33] <e-v-o> linuxliveusb.com
[10:33] <Deutopia> unless you can move the download to a shared network folder
[10:33] <e-v-o> nah, no network here
[10:33] <e-v-o> but I do have a USB drive LOL
[10:33] <Deutopia> lol
[10:33] <e-v-o> at least will be useful for something
[10:34] <e-v-o> wow lili downloaded in this machine in 2 secs while the win box is still at 6% after 10mins
[10:34] <e-v-o> buntu is well overdue!
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: how is that different to unetbootin /
[10:35] <Deutopia> it is easier. we already over supported his @*&
[10:35] <zal> hi how do i fix mythtv db ?
[10:36] <zal> and how do i make mythtv display or server my tuner ?
[10:36] <e-v-o> ActionParsnip: I tried unetbootin and after booting said no OS could be found in USB drive
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> e-v-o: did you MD5 test the iSO you downloaded/
[10:37] <zal> e-v-o: how do i boot my a working tvtuner ?
[10:37] <Deutopia> he is using it now so it will work well enough for lili
[10:37] <Cantide> speaking of tvtuners - how well does Ubuntu support them/
[10:37] <Cantide> ?
[10:37] <Deutopia> ubuntu worked for my wintv tuners
[10:38] <Cantide> hmm
[10:38] <Cantide> would i be able to test a tvtuner from a livecd?
[10:38] <Cantide> i want to put ubuntu on my dad's PC
[10:38] <Deutopia> not from CD but from USB with persistence, yes
[10:39] <nobcake> Cantide,  if you want on there hd home run..
[10:39] <Deutopia> www.linuxliveusb.com/
[10:39] <Cantide> okay, i think i'll give it a shot one of these days
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Cantide: depends on the tuner
[10:39] <Cantide> last question - what software is used for it? can it record?
[10:39] <Deutopia> mythtv
[10:39] <Cantide> aha
[10:39] <Cantide> i'll check that out first
[10:39] <Cantide> thanks :)
[10:40] <zal> Cantide: it will work on liveusb
[10:40] <zal> if the device is supported for that distro u run
[10:40] <zal> its v4l drivers
[10:40] <zal> i messed up my drivers
[10:41] <WACOMalt> Well.. that didnt go well.
[10:41] <WACOMalt> but at least I know my backups work
[10:41] <e-v-o> oh crap! the USB drive now has a a 2gb Fat32 partition and ext4 with I did with Live CD and now windows only sees the fat32
[10:42] <WACOMalt> yeah windows doesnt see ext4
[10:42] <blackshirt> zal, what you mean?
[10:42] <Hellooo> ciaoo
[10:42] <Hellooo> !list
[10:42] <blackshirt> wacomalt,
[10:42] <WACOMalt> blackshirt,
[10:43] <blackshirt> what you mean with didn't go well?
[10:43] <WACOMalt> I think the problem was I did the purge nvidia part of the tutorial but didnt reinstall ubuntu-desktop immediately after
[10:43] <WACOMalt> I went through the first part and rebooted before reinstallying ubuntu-desktop
[10:43] <zal> hi blackshirt well i tried v4l-dvb tree but have need for v4l analog tree
[10:43] <blackshirt> wacomalt, don't be worried...
[10:43] <WACOMalt> so I got stuck at the dark red screen of grub, eventually it told me something that I have no forgotten
[10:44] <WACOMalt> *now
[10:44] <blackshirt> zal, sorry
[10:44] <WACOMalt> I'm not worried, My system is back from a backup I just made
[10:44] <nobcake> Cantide,  http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/
[10:44] <WACOMalt> I will try again (tomorrow probably) and install ubuntu-desktop right after purging and before rebooting
[10:44] <e-v-o> help clearing partition table containg ext4 in windows
[10:45] <Deutopia> e-v-o; if you labeled that ext4 partition casper-rw; delete the casper-rw file
[10:45] <blackshirt> wacomalt, you can repair it on pure console screen,aka text mode
[10:46] <Deutopia> if it is labeled casper-rw you want that
[10:46] <nobcake> Cantide, did that help you?
[10:46] <Cantide> i'm not sure how it works with mythtv
[10:46] <e-v-o> nope, it's untitled
[10:46] <Cantide> but i think i'll need to try it out before asking more questions
[10:47] <WACOMalt> blackshirt, ah yeah, didnt even think of that. Well.. anyways its too late to be messing with this :P
[10:47] <WACOMalt> 3:47am T_T
[10:47] <blackshirt> wacomalt, but you had a amazing day today :d
[10:47] <WACOMalt> haha XD
[10:48] <Deutopia> if you want you can right click computer -> manage -> disk management -> delete and resize the fat, but but i would trust linux's gpararted more than i'd trust windows with partitioning a USB
[10:48] <WACOMalt> well I'm out. I'll be back tomorrow I'm sure!
[10:48] <WACOMalt> thanks for the help
[10:49] <Deutopia> gparted*
[10:49] <blackshirt> greats, and take care your self
[10:49] <Seveas> Deutopia, gpararted is the pirate version of it? :)
[10:50] <gsteinert> Seveas: isn't that gparrrrted?
[10:50] <e-v-o> Deutopia: why is lili installing viltualbox in the USB drive?!
[10:50] <Seveas> works too :)
[10:50] <Seveas> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ :)
[10:50] <zal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208623/
[10:50] <zal> this does not workout
[10:50] <Deutopia> so you can use linux in windows if you wanted? (you did not remove that option b4 you started?)
[10:51] <zal> Deutopia: thats called colinux with a virtual x11
[10:51] <e-v-o> ah no, sounds like something nice to have
[10:51] <zal> xming+colinux blackfin
[10:52] <zal> so anybody care to fix a tuner ?
[10:52] <Deutopia> also, download wubi from ubuntu.com and throw it in the fat partition if you ever want to use that drive to install linux as a windows app
[10:54] <zal> whats wubi again ?
[10:54] <Seveas> !wubi
[10:54] <Seveas> it's dubstep ubuntu
[10:54] <Seveas> wub-wub-wub-wubi
[10:54] <faLUCE> with lsusb I see that none of the usb units are marked with "high speed". Only "full speed", for 2.0 too. why?
[10:54] <zal> what about tv tuner linux ?
[10:55] <zal> 07:09.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[10:55] <akira_> hi
[10:56] <akira_> hi
[10:56] <zal> hi
[10:56] <e-v-o> Distopia: rebooting - the moment of truth is coming
[10:57] <zal> [ 3272.228186] tda827xa_set_params: could not write to tuner at addr: 0x
[10:57] <zal> how do i make ubuntu forget all my tuner probs and autoselect once akira_ gain like initial install did ?
[10:57] <nobcake> Cantide, did that help you?
[10:58] <akira_> ??
[10:58] <faLUCE> with lsusb I see that none of the usb units are marked with "high speed". Only "full speed", for 2.0 too. why?
[10:59] <faLUCE> with lsusb I see that none of the usb units are marked with "high speed". Only "full speed", for 2.0 too. why?
[10:59] <akira_> anybody here??
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> akira_: 1495 people, so yes
[11:00] <akira_> great
[11:00] <akira_> but why so silent
[11:00] <akira_> haha
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> akira_: nothing is happening, so no need to say anything
[11:01] <akira_> umm
[11:01] <akira_> ok. got it
[11:01] <e-v-o> Distopia: It is up and running :D
[11:02] <gsteinert> akira_: if you have a question to ask, ask away =), if you're just here to talk, then talk =)
[11:02] <akira_> aha
[11:02] <akira_> anyway
[11:03] <akira_> i'm very new to Linux
[11:03] <gsteinert> akira_: then welcome to the community =)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> akira_: everybody is at some point :)
[11:03] <akira_> aha
[11:04] <akira_> now i'm working on socket programming
[11:04] <akira_> in the future
[11:06] <akira_> hope you guys give me good advisories
[11:07] <blackshirt> welcome
[11:07] <akira_> *advices
[11:09] <medeman> hey there, i have a problem with a netbook
[11:09] <fantaghir> medeman, what is the problem
[11:10] <medeman> fantaghir: it is an eee pc 1025c with intel gma 500 graphics
[11:10] <blackshirt> akira_ greats
[11:10] <medeman> ob ubuntu, it says there's a restricted driver available
[11:10] <truexfan81> which package contains the "Login Window Preferences" app?
[11:10] <fantaghir> medeman, it is installed but not used?
[11:10] <medeman> when i install it however, it takes a while but then theres a black screen
[11:11] <fantaghir> medeman, ahaaa
[11:11] <truexfan81> i want to change my gdm theme
[11:11] <medeman> it is used and it works without the driver, but only with 800x600 pixels and no acceleration
[11:11] <blackshirt> that was common trouble on ubuntu
[11:11] <blackshirt> looks bad
[11:11] <fantaghir> but I ve read somewhere there s an emulation of graphic card by CPU
[11:11] <blackshirt> akira_ what advices you needed?
[11:12] <zal> so witch apt-line does an initial scan like when u install from a livecd for the tvtuner ?
[11:12] <medeman> but then the acceleration will be very bad fantaghir or not?
[11:12] <fantaghir> medeman, it drains CPU much
[11:12] <BlueWolf> Hi, can anyone tell me when the Ubuntu 10.04 support ends?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: ubuntu-tweak can change the login screen there
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: april next year (for desktop)
[11:13] <jrib> BlueWolf: april 2013 for desktop, april 2015 for server
[11:13] <medeman> fantaghir: but that wont help me, i dont want it draining the cpu
[11:13] <layke__> How do I download a link with a redirect?
[11:13] <zal> okey so no help on tv tuners ?
[11:13] <truexfan81> Reading state information... Done
[11:13] <truexfan81> ejv: Unable to locate package ubuntu-tweak
[11:13] <layke__> curl -L -O is thwat I tried...
[11:14] <zal> layke__: offline explorer
[11:14] <truexfan81> idk where that jv came from lol
[11:14] <medeman> isnt there a different way to do it? or do you know a different linux distribution that doesnt have trouble with the gma 500?
[11:14] <fantaghir> medeman, maybe somebody else
[11:14] <layke__> zal Really? I'm sure it's possible using curl
[11:14] <blackshirt> zal, i think someone here had a problems like you, but maybe sometime he was idle :d
[11:15] <e-v-o> Distopia: are you still around?
[11:15] <layke__> Using httrack for downloading a single document suplied via a link that redirects seems odd.
[11:15] <truexfan81> ActionParsnip: aptitude search also finds nothing when searching for ubuntu-tweak
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: you need a PPA
[11:15] <zal> somebody ?
[11:15] <BlueWolf> jrib: Why is the desktop 2013? Is the Ubuntu 10.04 still considered the better Ubuntu or have the new ones proven adequate? Sorry it's been a while since I have checked up on new releases form 11.04.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> zal: wassup?
[11:16] <jrib> !lts | BlueWolf
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: its a 3 year support for the desktop release and 5 years for server
[11:16] <e-v-o> Deutopia: All that lili created was a live USB drive which is not persisting : (
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: ^
[11:16] <zal> hi ActionParsnip :) still no tuner :p
[11:16] <medeman> fantaghir: do you know if this problem is reported and gets fixed?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> zal: use the lsusb code to fid guides
[11:17] <Fudge> !search mangler
[11:17] <e-v-o> does anyone know how to make a Live USB drive keep changes?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: "better" and "adequate" are opinions
[11:17] <fantaghir> medeman, I dont know that
[11:17] <Fudge> e-v-o  you are looking for persistant storage
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:18] <e-v-o> Fudge: precisely
[11:18] <e-v-o> how do i do that?
[11:18] <fantaghir> medeman, have u tried older gnome-panel? instead of unity? It was just the suggestion
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: have you tried the other DEs?
[11:18] <jrib> BlueWolf: from a desktop user point of view, 10.04 is the last ubuntu still supported and using gnome 2. So if you want to cling to that for another year, that's your best option.  12.04 now uses unity by default.  I'd suggest going with 12.04; even if you do not like unity, you should find a suitable replacement environment anyway
[11:18] <Fudge> e-v-o  usb creator will do it for you
[11:18] <medeman> fantaghir: how do i try it?
[11:18] <Fudge> and unetibootin or something like tha tthe program is called
[11:18] <e-v-o> I have used Lili to create the USB drive
[11:18] <zal> ActionParsnip: cant seem to find any good guide
[11:19] <sayres> hi
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> zal: are there any bugs reported?
[11:19] <fantaghir> e-v-o, you put the stick into PC, U put the key into PC, U boot up, u choose other option and partition key to swap and / ant then install the OS to / key thats it
[11:19] <sayres> I was install Ubuntu 12.4 and Install Nvidia driver,but my resolution is very bad.what can i do??
[11:20] <zal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208671/
[11:20] <zal> not that i think so with the lsusb
[11:20] <zal> its lspci for that card
[11:20] <e-v-o> fantaghir: I tried that before and abandoned as not as straight forward as you make it sound.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> sayres: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[11:20] <e-v-o> fantaghir: custom partitioning with live cd isn't easy for non-pros
[11:20] <zal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208674/
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> sayres: please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org   to host the output
[11:21] <zal> ActionParsnip: what do u advise on tvtuner pci ?
[11:21] <fantaghir> e-v-o, then U should boot to liveCD and with terminal: sudo apt-get install gparted and then partition the stick, later to install
[11:22] <medeman> fantaghir: how do i try the older gnome thingy?
[11:22] <medeman> fantaghir: by the way i tried xubuntu, but same problem...
[11:22] <zal> under the light tonight, stand around , feel it hard
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> zal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tvtime/+bug/472770
[11:22] <e-v-o> fantaghir: what I fear with that is that it will mess up the boot in the host OS
[11:22] <zal> ActionParsnip: its not only no audio atm
[11:22] <zal> its allso no audio no visual
[11:22] <fantaghir> medeman, sudo apt-get install gnome-panel or in ubuntu center gnome-panel, after inst U should log off and select gnome without effects and then log in
[11:23] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip:	How well does 12.04 feature then in terms of user ratings or opinions. Is it as buggy as 11.04 and 11.10 or is a stable system with fewer bugs than other releases?
[11:23] <BlueWolf> jrib: Thanks, Basically I want to upgrade my Linux but not a necessity and I don't like the new Unity setup or perhaps I don"t know the advantages of it?
[11:23] <e-v-o> fantaghir: I've been trying to do this for the past 4 hours and Deutopia, which appears to have left, recommended Lili (the Win software that creates USB linux) but this turned out to be just another live USB disk!
[11:23] <medeman> fantaghir: okay, ill try that. thank you!
[11:24] <sayres> ActionParsnip: http://dpaste.com/801672/
[11:24] <zal> ActionParsnip: thanks to ... i'll slob on
[11:25] <fantaghir> e-v-o, is your hardware supported? because I had the problem with SATA HDD on 11.04, the HDD simply dissapeared
[11:25] <jrib> BlueWolf: judging only by the unity feedback I see on this channel, I'd say initial versions of it usually had negative feedback but lately I see most people praising it.  In the end, it's a personal preference.  If you don't like the way unity and gnome 3 are going, then just install a different desktop environment and select it at the login screen
[11:26] <zal> i still have no clue how to have a ubuntu device manager or hardware adding thing add saa7135 phillips
[11:26] <fantaghir> e-v-o, dont forget to arrow the GRUB installer to sdb device to have the selection of OSes to boot into
[11:26] <zal> or devmapper
[11:26] <e-v-o> fantaghir: I'm trying to install to 16gb USB stick. And I want an easy option as I'm no pro.
[11:26] <zal> je speelt en spel met mij maarja je bent ... en ik ga men eigen gang
[11:26] <zal> jij bent
[11:27] <BlueWolf> jrib: Ok and the software it's self still operates smoothly?
[11:27] <sayres> ActionParsnip: I think by change resolution my problem is fix.Is it true?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> sayres: http://pastie.org/4731268
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> sayres: later driver will help
[11:28] <fantaghir> e-v-o, see my private msg
[11:29] <sayres> ActionParsnip: can you put your information in this sait:http://dpaste.com..plz.I can't open your link
[11:31] <Skei> Morning, all. I'm trying to set gnome-terminal to open using --full-screen when I hit Ctrl + Alt + T. I'm running 12.04 under Gnome. I've tried using the Window Rules under Compiz, and I've edited the correct key under gconf-editor, but the terminal is still appearing small. Any suggestions ?
[11:31] <zal> ERROR: Module saa7134 is in use by saa7134_alsa
[11:31] <samhu> hi,how to edit the source list to fix the problem of failed to fetch
[11:31] <zal> how do i findout what uses it ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> sayres: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208689/
[11:32] <zal> and kill it ?
[11:32] <sayres> ActionParsnip:tnx dude.I do it
[11:32] <samhu> could anyone tell me?
[11:33] <jrib> samhu: pastebin your current sources.list and the errors you are getting
[11:33] <samhu> ok
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> samhu: can you run:  sudo apt-get update; lsb-release -a   and use a pastebin to hold the output please
[11:34] <zal> nobdoy ?
[11:34] <samhu> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)]/ precise main restricted
[11:34] <samhu> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[11:34] <samhu> # newer versions of the distribution.
[11:34] <samhu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted
[11:34] <samhu> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
[11:34] <FloodBot1> samhu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <samhu> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> zal: if you use modprobe you can unload modules as needed
[11:34] <zal> i cant
[11:34] <zal> error in use
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> samhu: 1) use a pastebn  2) you want the output of:   sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a    NOT the sources.list file. I dodn't ask for that
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> samhu: why did you paste the file,when I asked for the output of a command?
[11:36] <samhu> sorry
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> samhu: I was quite clear....
[11:37] <zal> how do i findout witch executable uses a certain modprobe that i can rmmod on it ?
[11:37] <bluesscream> #din
[11:42] <medeman> fantaghir: it works now, the other one works as well now (the unity) - however i get like 4 fps in a simple game such as armagetron advanced, while it ran perfectly on windows 7 starter (sorry i had a disconnect)
[11:42] <zal> so still nobody ?
[11:42] <samhu> i guess i just paste on paste.ubuntu.com then what ? and i am sorry again
[11:43] <Kartagis> samhu: paste here the URL
[11:43] <samhu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208703/
[11:43] <samhu> right?
[11:44] <Kartagis> yes
[11:44] <Skei> I'm trying to set gnome-terminal to open using --full-screen when I hit Ctrl + Alt + T. I'm running 12.04 under Gnome. I've tried using the Window Rules under Compiz, and I've edited the correct key under gconf-editor, but the terminal is still appearing small. Any suggestions ?
[11:45] <jrib> Skei: when you run "gnome-terminal --full-screen" from a terminal, does it open as you want
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> samhu: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Skei: if you use terminal a lot I suggest you install guake
[11:47] <Skei> jrib, yes, that works fine.
[11:47] <Skei> ActionParsnip, why's that ?
[11:48] <jrib> Skei: isn't there some keyboard shortcuts editor exposed in the gui?
[11:48] <Skei> jrib, I can hit F11 when the term is open.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Skei: its a terminal that hides and shows on key, you can run long running commands and hide the terminal and check on it later, saves having to hunt for the gnome-terminal
[11:48] <Skei> But that's not great. I'd like it to start full-screen.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Skei: it drops down from the top, like the tilde terminal in quake / counterstrike etc
[11:49] <zal> still no signal
[11:49] <fidel> Skei: using Terminator here - which supports calling it via: terminator --fullscreen
[11:50] <fidel> in addition it offers splitting hrizontale / vertical on demand and tons of other stuff
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Skei: or make an alias in ~/.bashrc
[11:50] <jrib> fidel: but did you bind that to a key?
[11:50] <fidel> jrib: what?
[11:50] <jrib> fidel: Skei wants to bind "gnome-terminal --full-screen" to a key.  But when he tries, it doesn't work
[11:51] <fidel> jrib: personaly i do start all my stuff via kupfer (launcher). well i've overseen the bind to key part ..good catch ;)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Skei: add:    alias gnome-terminal='gnome-terminal --full-screen'    to ~/.bashrc
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Skei: then run: source ~/.bashrc  and you are away
[11:51] <Skei> ActionParsnip, hah, that's one way of doing it. I'll do that for now, thanks. Also looking at guake now.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Skei: guake is badass
[11:51] <jrib> Skei: you could use some different daemon to handle the keypresses (like xbindkeys).  You're likely just not editing the right gconf key (is gconf even used anymore?).  Maybe you need to do it in dconf or find the actual keyboard shortcut editor
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Skei: yakuake if you are using KDE
[11:52] <Skei> Looks interesting so far. It's way too transparent, just messing with the settings right now.
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Skei: or a lighter variant is tilde
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Skei: you can reduce transparency in prefs
[11:52] <Skei> Yep, just playing now.
[11:52] <Chiko> has anyone here used/setup mono?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Skei: should be default installed imho, as well as unp
[11:52] <Skei> jrib, I've just been following random search hits. I had managed on my old install using gconf, but this isn't having it. Thanks.
[11:52] <jrib> Chiko: ask your real question
[11:53] <jrib> Skei: it's dconf now.  Though I'm pretty sure those settings are exposed somewhere in the gui (I don't know where)
[11:53] <Chiko> I need help setting it up i'm not sure what repository to point to and i don't use linux very often so running on limited knowledge
[11:53] <Skei> Thanks, jrib, might look into that next.
[11:54] <Chiko> server i've been using for a while is also experiencing issues where i issue apt-get update/upgrade and it just has errors parsing the dpkg/available file or something~ not sure what's going on
[11:54] <Skei> ActionParsnip, uhhhkay, hitting F12 for your term is much better. But can I have several running ?
[11:54] <Chiko> seems as newer versions of ubuntu come out the old ones die painfully
[11:54] <sre-su> Hello! I'm having ssh issues. I did complete reset of ADSL router and configured it for SSH port forwarding TCP 22. And, now I'm using a fresh install of Ubuntu with openssh-client and openssh-server packages  installed. Now, whenever I try ssh from outside, I get ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. How can I fix this issue? What am I missing?
[11:54] <jrib> Chiko: what version?
[11:54] <Chiko> 10.04
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Skei: you can have multiple tabs
[11:54] <jrib> Chiko: pastebin the command you run and the full output
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> sre-su: try:  ssh --vv user@server
[11:56] <Skei> ActionParsnip, bah, can't use Tab in keyboard shortcuts.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Skei: sure you can, try running:  source ~/.bashrc
[11:57] <Skei> ActionParsnip, I mean in Guake. I can't set Ctrl + Tab to switch between tabs.
[11:57] <Chiko> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Hf3ZSS40
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Skei: ah, CTRL + PgUp / PgDn
[11:58] <Skei> Also, ActionParsnip, setting the alias and then running source .bashrc still doesn't get me a full-screen term. :(
[11:58] <sre-su> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208719/
[11:58] <Skei> ActionParsnip, Yeah, I prefer using Tab, like in a web browser :P
[11:58] <Skei> Still, Guake looks very promising, think I'll keep it.
[11:58] <jrib> Chiko: you'd probably benefit from the script ActionParsnip just posted
[11:58] <tim442> Skei: open guake preferences, set the shortcut to whatever you want
[11:58]  * jrib queues ActionParsnip
[11:59] <Skei> tim442, it doesn't like Tab.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> jrib: if you wanna help dude go for it, i'm off to bed
[11:59] <sre-su> duh
[12:00] <zal> so plz a userfriendly solution for managing tvtuner from who uses the mod till autoconfigdetect etc
[12:00] <samhu> should there be output for that fixpackage script?
[12:00] <Chiko> Which one? I see the one sre-su posted hmm
[12:01] <Skei> Hmmm, does anyone have any handy scripts for screen for the bar at the bottom ?
[12:01] <randomstuff> Good day.
[12:02] <jrib> Chiko: just rename your current /var/lib/dpkg/available to something like /var/lib/dpkg/available.broken, then copy /var/lib/dpkg/available-old to /var/lib/dpkg/available, and finally, run « sudo apt-get update »
[12:02] <randomstuff> I seem to have a little difficulties with my internet connection...
[12:02] <Chiko> ah ok i had to do that with status will give that a try
[12:03] <zal> okey clean system
[12:03] <zal> now fix the tuner
[12:03] <randomstuff> Mind one of you aid?
[12:04] <zal> rmmod saa*
[12:04] <zal> ERROR: Module saa* does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:04] <zal> sure i wouldnt mind
[12:04] <Chiko> jrib: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 2:missing package name
[12:04] <zal> i uninstalled anything tv with synaptic
[12:04] <randomstuff> I've been trying to load a webpage for the past 25 minutes on Firefox, but it neither displays an error, nor does it finish loading.
[12:04] <randomstuff> It's been like that all day, and I figured that it is now time to ask for help.
[12:04] <zal> randomstuff: maybe the php code takes to long
[12:04] <jrib> Chiko: delete that file then (you have backups), and run « sudo apt-get update » then
[12:05] <Chiko> seems second line just has "20308^@^@^@^@^@^@{...}"
[12:05] <Chiko> kk
[12:05] <randomstuff> It's all websites Zal.
[12:05] <zal> so php ?
[12:05] <randomstuff> Maybe...
[12:05] <randomstuff> What shall I do about it?
[12:05] <Chiko> now it juist complains that it can't find the file
[12:05] <zal> remove ubuntu install easyphp
[12:06] <Chiko> ill try repair the one i had no idea why it's corrupted like that
[12:06] <randomstuff> Thanks... Will see what I can do.
[12:06] <zal> randomstuff: add echo php took %dtime
[12:07] <zal> or try to search buffer underruns in the code
[12:07] <Cantide> why install easyphp? that'll only help if he's running the files from his local PC
[12:07] <Cantide> surely..
[12:07] <randomstuff> I am kind of new to Linux systems... How do I do that?
[12:07] <zal> Cantide: it cant hurt to have a test server
[12:08] <zal> randomstuff do what again ?
[12:08] <Cantide> zal, seems like a long route to take to test it out
[12:08] <jrib> Chiko: you /are/ running "update" and not "upgrade", right?
[12:08] <zal> its all inter dimesion travel
[12:08] <randomstuff> The searching for the buffers.
[12:09] <Chiko> ah yeah i ran both update works
[12:09] <zal> randomstuff: use php valgrind
[12:09] <Chiko> thought we were trying to fix upgrade
[12:09] <jrib> Chiko: what's the output from upgrade now?
[12:09] <Chiko> after removing that first line
[12:09] <randomstuff> Where would I find that?
[12:09] <Chiko> "libfreetype6": missing version
[12:09] <jrib> Chiko: after, deleting the file, then doing « sudo apt-get update » and nothing else
[12:10] <zal> thers a few php memcheck scripts that u can add to ur scripts
[12:10] <zal> i have no links to
[12:10] <randomstuff> The problem is...
[12:10] <randomstuff> I can't connect to the internet at all...
[12:10] <randomstuff> Not through websites.
[12:10] <zal> tahts maybe the prob
[12:10] <randomstuff> It keeps loading, but never finds any results.
[12:10] <BlueWolf> randomstuff: Which linux?
[12:10] <zal> tell us more about the prob itself
[12:10] <randomstuff> No matter what I try.
[12:11] <Chiko> jrib: i did that before "file deleted", "ran apt-get update"
[12:11] <randomstuff> Ubuntu 12.04
[12:11] <Chiko> both ran fine
[12:11] <zal> u are connected but cant view webpages ?
[12:11] <jrib> Chiko: right, so then what's the output of upgrade?
[12:11] <randomstuff> I am connected.
[12:11] <Chiko> then i ran apt-get upgrade and it complained that "no such file or directory"
[12:11] <randomstuff> But webpages won't load.
[12:11] <randomstuff> Updates won't load.
[12:11] <Chiko> must have missed it before
[12:11] <jrib> Chiko: pastebin the full output
[12:11] <zal> maybe dialup isp
[12:11] <Chiko> k
[12:11] <zal> maybe viral
[12:11] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:11] <BlueWolf> randomstuff: Is your internet on?
[12:12] <zal> must be hes here
[12:12] <randomstuff> It says that my internet is on, yes.
[12:12] <samhu> does anyone have a problem with thunderbird recently? mine  freeze every time i start it ??
[12:12] <Chiko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208736/
[12:13] <BlueWolf> samhu: Might be a bug, have you updated?
[12:13] <jrib> Chiko: run « dpkg --clear-avail », then « sudo apt-get update » and pastebin the output
[12:13] <Jaxan> What's the best way to transfer photos from my desktop to my iOS device?
[12:13] <samhu> bluewolf: i did recently and got the problem
[12:14] <randomstuff> Jaxan: Dropbox, I believe?
[12:14] <Chiko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208741/
[12:14] <Jaxan> randomstuff: then they're not in the photos app, so i have to save them all one by one?
[12:14] <BlueWolf> samhu: Then you can ether report it as a bug or try and Update again.
[12:15] <randomstuff> Jaxan: I am not familiar with iOS, but Dropbox is an excellent tool for that, to my knowledge.
[12:15] <samhu> Actionparsnip: i got this Error info:W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:16] <BlueWolf> samhu: when I did updated my firefox would take ages to start up, then I updated and it was fine.
[12:17] <jrib> Chiko: now try upgrade
[12:17] <jrib> Chiko: although I am seeing taht you have hardy and lucid repositories... you should fix that...
[12:18] <randomstuff> I've really tried anything I could think of (Including resetting the network accesibility altogether).
[12:19] <blackshirt> randomstuff, basically,whats your need?
[12:19] <BlueWolf> randomstuff: You know I have had a similar problem on my other computer and I have not been able to fix it.
[12:20] <blackshirt> bluewolf, what the problems?
[12:20] <randomstuff> blackshirt: My Ubuntu 12.04 is unable to both load anything related to the internet, and also unable to show any errors to do with it.
[12:20] <randomstuff> Just... An eternal loading.
[12:21] <blackshirt> randomstuff, are you using dhcp server ?
[12:21] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: Well my other computer would not auto connect to the internet, and when I put in the connection details it still would not work and I have Ubuntu 10.04 on it.
[12:22] <randomstuff> blackshirt: Am I using what-now?
[12:22] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: Unfortunately I don't have it here with me.
[12:22] <blackshirt> bluewolf, check your gateway/router, dns
[12:22] <blackshirt> or maybe firewall
[12:22] <blackshirt> bluewolf, are you using desktop version?
[12:23] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: Yes I am
[12:23] <samhu> guys i still got fail to fetch problem with output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208758/
[12:24] <blackshirt> bluewolf, what connection are you using now? Usb modem, LAN ?
[12:24] <samhu> what should i do?
[12:24] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:24] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:24] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:24] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:24] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:24] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <SupaDupaJenkins> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <SupaDupaJenkins> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <SupaDupaJenkins> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <SupaDupaJenkins> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <FloodBot1> SupaDupaJenkins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: But why do all my other computers work with out a problem but that computer in particular is a problem. I am using LAN connection now and the one at work is the same
[12:25] <randomstuff> Neat... A DDoS attack...
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <JonathanDoe> I will always be sure of this... one ddos is the way to live! I won't let go! I will be strong! the time is now! I'm undefeated! I'm undersold!
[12:25] <samhu> please help me
[12:25] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <blackshirt> samhu, change your repo
[12:26] <jarrad> Doesn't this channel have any mods?
[12:26] <samhu> how to ?
[12:26] <blackshirt> bluewolf, can you ping some site, eg. Google.cim
[12:26] <Chiko> it has a flood bot that seems to work...
[12:27] <Chiko> @jrib it's doing a lot more now how was you able to influence this? :S
[12:27] <samhu> how can i fix that invalid signature
[12:27] <randomstuff> Yup... Flood bot just killed the "Undefeated" DDoS...
[12:27] <jrib> Chiko: it should be rebuilding the available file... "dpkg --clear-avail" told it to clear its knowledge about the old one
[12:28] <Chiko> ah right
[12:28] <BlueWolf> blackshirt. No, it won't connect at all, I thought it was hardware but I have windows installed on a duel boot and it works at first my windows was not working but it is now.
[12:28] <randomstuff> Almost same story with me...
[12:29] <randomstuff> The Ubuntu is on a Virtual Machine... Can't connect to the itnernet.
[12:29] <randomstuff> internet*
[12:29] <randomstuff> Not properly, at least.
[12:29] <blackshirt> bluewolf, your windows not working too?
[12:29] <randomstuff> But Windows works just fine.
[12:29] <samhu> W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[12:29] <samhu> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[12:29] <Gycklarn> randomstuff, What VM software are you using?
[12:29] <samhu> how can i fix those ?
[12:30] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: It wasen't. How ever it is now.
[12:30] <blackshirt> randomstuff, set to nat on networking type
[12:30] <randomstuff> Oracle VM Virtualbox... Newest version.
[12:30] <Chiko> hmm didn't realise that would nuke all my screens and everything i was running
[12:31] <randomstuff> blackshirt: I'll see of Nat works.
[12:31] <blackshirt> samhu, look at your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <blackshirt> bluewolf, seem a hardware related problem
[12:31] <randomstuff> blackshirt: Nope... Nat made it lose what little connection it had.
[12:31] <samhu> blackshirt:then what?
[12:32] <blackshirt> change your repository source samhu and then rerun apt-get update
[12:33] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: How can that be when the windows is working. I must admit at first on a fresh install both Linux and Windows would not connect, then a friend fixed the windows, and now the Linux just will not register the internet connection.
[12:33] <Chiko> thanks jrib that looks good now
[12:33] <samhu> blackshirt: change what to what ?
[12:34] <blackshirt> !repos
[12:34] <Chiko> i'm not sure what you meant by "you should fix that" in regards to having hardy and lucid repositories
[12:34] <blackshirt> !repos > samhu
[12:35] <jrib> Chiko: you should only have repositories for the version you are running
[12:36] <slappy3> If anyone wants to know the TRUTH behind the creation of the universe join #AncientAliens
[12:36] <blackshirt> bluewolf, sorry, is your pc using dhcp for ip addressing the network?or you have been setup it statically?
[12:36] <Chiko> ah ok i believe it's just lucid then i didn't add the extras
[12:37] <e-v-o> Chiko: did you mean lucid as in http://LucidTree.com ; )
[12:37] <doomgiver> is there any easy way to manually download all dependencies of "xyz" package?
[12:37] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: I am actually not sure, how can I check that with the internet I am using here as it is the same?
[12:37] <doomgiver> im using ubuntu 12.04 rescue remix version, if that really changes things
[12:37] <Chiko> would you happen to know where i can get mono from? can only see information on mod_mono which seems to be for apache not sure if it's the same thing i'm after i just want to run .net applications on it
[12:37] <samhu> i still don't get it should i delete all the text in the file?
[12:38] <Chiko> The one and only e-v-o ;-) :P
[12:38] <asker> hi
[12:38] <asker> everyone
[12:38] <blackshirt> hello bluewolf,still around?
[12:38] <blackshirt> Hello asker
[12:38] <asker> hello
[12:38] <e-v-o> hey hey asker
[12:38] <asker> how are u?
[12:39] <asker> everyone
[12:39] <liujianfeng> hello
[12:39] <e-v-o> I'm nice and YOU?
[12:39] <randomstuff> blackshirt: It didn't work... Now what?
[12:39] <blackshirt> samhu, you can do it and replace the entries with new one
[12:39] <asker> im fine
[12:39] <doomgiver> so.... how would you go around installing software in a machine that has no internet access?
[12:39] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: I am actually not sure, how can I check that with the internet I am using here as it is the same?
[12:39] <liujianfeng> It seems that there are a lot of people
[12:39] <doomgiver> i bet you cant install packages in a machine with no net access
[12:40] <liujianfeng> use deb
[12:40] <asker> i have aproblem . i am using my latop with my tv but . when i want a video fullscreen . flash will fullscreen in my laptop screen
[12:40] <asker> i have aproblem . i am using my latop with my tv but . when i want a video fullscreen . flash will fullscreen in my laptop screen
[12:40] <samhu> blackshirt: is there a reliable version for it?
[12:40] <blackshirt> bluewolf, i can't help too much if you not sure
[12:41] <doomgiver> liujianfeng: care to euclidate? how to find .deb packages from a different machine?
[12:41] <blackshirt> samhu, what you mean with version
[12:41] <samhu> a reliable copy
[12:42] <samhu> if my old source.list is not right i want download a reliable copy
[12:43] <jrib> Chiko:  mono is in the repositories
[12:43] <blackshirt> samhu, you can make a backup before
[12:43] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: I think it's dhan
[12:43] <blackshirt> randomstuff, if your host can connect to internet, and your guest has been setup to nat networking,you should can connect to net
[12:43] <Chiko> apt-get install mono ?
[12:43] <randomstuff> It's been setup to only be able to access the network, through specific programs (Which I -do- have open).
[12:43] <jrib> Chiko: maybe "mono-complete", but I'm on 12.04
[12:44] <blackshirt> samhu, learn how to change your sources list entry
[12:44] <Chiko> i'm not sure what its called exactly or how to find what i'm after i must google more
[12:44] <Chiko> ah ill try ta
[12:44] <Chiko> success
[12:44] <Chiko> installing~
[12:44] <e-v-o> is it normal for ubuntu install to hang during Language Packs?
[12:44] <e-v-o> : (
[12:44] <blackshirt> samhu, maybe better you using software sources to edit them
[12:44] <Chiko> how do you determine what a package is called
[12:44] <yeats> e-v-o: how long of a hang?  it's having to download those from the web
[12:45] <Chiko> google hasn't been very friendly
[12:45] <e-v-o> it downloaded in 2 minutes and it's been hanging for about 5
[12:45] <Chiko> i just keep seeing apt-get install mono
[12:45] <yeats> e-v-o: I would let it finish
[12:45] <blackshirt> chiko stop it and retry
[12:45] <Chiko> why?
[12:46] <e-v-o> yeats: ok. but if it hangs, isn't this a post install update? so the install should be ok, right?
[12:46] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: What was it you asked me about my connection again?
[12:46] <yeats> e-v-o: I *believe* so
[12:46] <yeats> e-v-o: actually, I don't think grub has run yet, so it wouldn't boot :-/
[12:46] <blackshirt> bluewolf, dhan??? You mean dhcp?
[12:47] <e-v-o> yeats: what language packs is it installing anyway? I didn't ask for any extra languages, just English : (
[12:47] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:47] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: Yes, what were the other two options you gave me?
[12:47] <yeats> e-v-o: I'm not sure
[12:47] <Chiko> ah right apt-cache search mono >_>
[12:47] <yeats> e-v-o: I've just seen that take a while in the past
[12:48] <e-v-o> yeats: how long before I should panic?
[12:48] <blackshirt> bluewolf, lets paste your output of $route -n
[12:48] <e-v-o> yeats: oh wait.. "Configuring hardware"
[12:48] <e-v-o> YAYY! :D
[12:49] <yeats> e-v-o: yeah - that's actually not as long as I've seen that step run before
[12:49] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: It's saying command not found?
[12:50] <layke__> I just tried to install something, and it says.. "You will have to enable the component called 'multiverse'"
[12:50] <blackshirt> bluewolf, sorry, lets paste your output of $sudo route -n
[12:50] <layke__> How would I do this. Do I just look in my /etc/apt/sources.list and find something that says multiverse?
[12:50] <layke__> Is there only one multiverse? Or is there lots? Not sure what it really means
[12:50] <yeats> !multiverse | layke__
[12:50] <Calinou> only one
[12:51] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208800/
[12:51] <yeats> layke__: open software center and Edit -> Software Sources... is the easiest way
[12:51] <blackshirt> sorry bluewolf, it was just simple output, maybe you can paste here,  in one row
[12:52] <blackshirt> bluewolf, i'm on handheld
[12:52] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:52] <BlueWolf> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
[12:52] <BlueWolf> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[12:52] <BlueWolf> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:52] <layke__> Thanks yeats - This is what I had at the moment. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208802/ I looked at the !multiverse links you provided. None of them really say multiverse though?
[12:52] <layke__> I'll look at the Software Sources.
[12:53] <yeats> layke__: in the software sources it's a checkbox you can just click
[12:53] <layke__> yeats : Is it "software restricted by copyright or legal issues"? That looks like it is already ticked for me.
[12:54] <layke__> Perhaps I already had multiverse.
[12:54] <e-v-o> yeats: FATAL ERROR: Executing Grub Install /dev/sdb failed! :((((
[12:54] <blackshirt> bluewolf, exactly which one was the gateway output ?
[12:54] <layke__> yeats, O actually I'm being an idiot. I'm trying to install multiverse on my server. Not my desktop. lol.
[12:54] <blackshirt> bluewolf, exactly which one was the gateway address ?
[12:54] <blackshirt> Sorry
[12:55] <layke__> Clearly the server probably doesn't the software center :) lol.
[12:55] <yeats> layke__: ah ok ;-) - in that case you might see if theres a line to uncomment in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: 192.168.1.1 I think. If you open the pastebin I gave you, you will see the information
[12:55] <layke__> yeats No there isn't. Did you see that pastie I provided?
[12:55] <layke__> It only has four repositories by the looks of it.
[12:55] <e-v-o> how do I get past FATAL ERROR: Executing Grub Install /dev/sdb failed - during install.
[12:56] <blackshirt> bluewolf, i can't see the link you given
[12:56] <lost_and_unfound> greetings all, I have written a small html / web app with a similar layout as a mobile loayout. Instead of using firefox to open the app/page, I am looking for a widget / notification browser (e.g gwibber-type) to just display the page. Any suggestions on apps or keywords to look for ?
[12:56] <ThinkT510> e-v-o: you sure its sdb you want to install grub to?
[12:56] <yeats> e-v-o: open a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-T) - then less /var/log/syslog and PgDn to the bottom to see if there's anything related there
[12:56] <blackshirt> bluewolf, delete two route from routing table
[12:57] <blackshirt> except your gateway address
[12:57] <e-v-o> yeah Think, I'm trying to install to USB
[12:57] <BluesKaj> e-v-o, what was the command you used to install grub to /dev/sdb ?
[12:57] <iwert> hi i have a proble; zith ;y keybeord
[12:57] <layke__> yeats On this page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_the_Universe_and_Multiverse_Repositories It says "hardy multiverse" What's the significance of "hardy" Is that like lucid? etc
[12:57] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208800/ ) How can you not open it? How do I delete two route from routing table?
[12:57] <blackshirt> layke_ yes
[12:57] <iwert> its set to belgiu; on the  keybeord layout
[12:57] <e-v-o> BluesKaj: I didn't run any command, I just ran installation into USB key.
[12:57] <scales11> hello all.  anybody have good alternatives to demonoid?  i have no place to turn since they shut it down
[12:58] <blackshirt> bluewolf, use route del command
[12:58] <yeats> layke__: yes - replace 'hardy' with the name of the release you're on
[12:58] <BluesKaj> e-v-o, ok
[12:58] <layke__> blackshirt, So, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208814/ I should change "hardy-updates" to lucide-updates
[12:58] <layke__> @ yeats
[12:58] <iwert> but so;ehoz its set to qwerty
[12:58] <ThinkT510> !piracy | scales11
[12:58] <asker> i have aproblem . i am using my latop with my tv but . when i want a video fullscreen . flash will fullscreen in my laptop screen
[12:59] <yeats> layke__: 'lucid-updates' yes
[12:59] <layke__> !release | layke__
[12:59] <iwert> it was azerty 2 min ago
[12:59] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: What will deleting that do? Because this machine I am using is working fine with the internet, the machine that is the problem is the one at my work?
[13:00] <layke__> yeats Thanks for the advice. So are releases just code names? ie.. for the version of the release? I haven't understood the signifncance of release names?
[13:00] <yeats> layke__: correct
[13:00] <scales11> ThinkT510: torrents are not illegal,
[13:00] <layke__> yeats, So for example, the fact that I am on "lucid" means that I am on version 10 of ubuntu. And anyone on hardy, must be 8.0.
[13:00] <randomstuff> blackshirt: Got an error: "Write failed: Broken pipe"
[13:00] <layke__> Cheers :) Learnt two new things today.
[13:00] <ThinkT510> scales11: i didn't say they were
[13:00] <asker> yes it is in some contry
[13:01] <yeats> layke__: lucid = 10.04, hardy = 8.04
[13:01] <asker> can be illagel
[13:01] <omfghelp> hey
[13:01] <scales11> ThinkT510: but you immediately jumped on piracy...thats illegal
[13:01] <yeats> layke__: numbers are year.month
[13:01] <omfghelp> is this for ubuntu?
[13:01] <layke__> O wow. I didn't know that either. I just assumed they were major versions.
[13:01] <scales11> ThinkT510: and i am not linking to anything pirated
[13:02] <ThinkT510> scales11: but you are using demonoid?
[13:02] <blackshirt> bluewolf, oh... You make me misunderstood,sorry guys
[13:02] <yeats> layke__: well, they *are*, but they're timed releases, thus numbered that way ;-)
[13:02] <blackshirt> randomstuff, like a bad things
[13:02] <omfghelp> where is the help section
[13:02] <scales11> ThinkT510: it does link to pirated content, but it is not soley a piracy site
[13:02] <randomstuff> blackshirt: So I am not able to fix it?
[13:03] <scales11> ThinkT510: and i am not using it since it no longer exists
[13:03] <ThinkT510> scales11: what torrents are you looking for and how is this related to ubuntu?
[13:03] <scales11> ThinkT510: now thats a better question. and i suppose it doesnt so i shall stop
[13:03] <omfghelp> hey can anyone tell me how to install programs
[13:03] <bagus> qhartman:  /msg nickserv register nurleytta bagustris@yahoo.com
[13:03] <BlueWolf> blackshirt: No Problem, is there anything wrong with my connection here that would have made the problem?
[13:04] <blackshirt> randomstuff, try to look at virtualbox documentations, or their forums, how to fix it.. I think that was related corrupted local pipe..maybe reboot can fix them
[13:04] <arlo> Hello how can i check when my ip adress is public ?
[13:05] <e-v-o> can I install boot loader to /dev/sdv2 if it failed installing to /dev/sdb?
[13:05] <randomstuff> blackshirt: Shall I also do that, when it's the terminal that gives the error?
[13:05] <bagus> join #ubuntu-beginners
[13:06] <blackshirt> randomstuff, try to shutdown your vm and start again
[13:06] <randomstuff> blackshirt: I'll try.
[13:07] <magicalChicken> omfghelp: "sudo apt-get install <name of package>"
[13:07] <blackshirt> hello bagus, like familiar with you
[13:09] <blackshirt> arlo, check your ifconfig output
[13:09] <randomstuff> blackshirt: Same story... Just says "Connecting".
[13:10] <yeats> bagus: best to identify to nickserv *outside* of a channel - FYI
[13:10] <layke__> yeats, I just installed the package that I wanted, but I noticed it's really old. I think I want to ditch it and download the latest version and install it myself. Would I just `apt-get remove ec2-api-tools` and then download the ZIP file that Amazon provide, and extra the /bin/* to /usr/bin on my own system?
[13:10] <arlo> blackshirt where in ifconfig i can see?
[13:10] <arlo> blackshirt can i open ports without router?
[13:11] <yeats> layke__: I don't know about that specific package, but you might investigate PPAs for the package you're looking for (or a .deb or repo from amazon if they offer it)
[13:11] <yeats> layke__: only if that approach doesn't work would I consider installing manually
[13:11] <layke__> Okay thanks. I found.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ec2-api-tools
[13:12] <yeats> layke__: cool
[13:12] <layke__> So I run apt-add-repository https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ec2-api-tools
[13:12] <layke__> apt-get update and install that?
[13:12] <layke__> (Not sure how PPA works)
[13:12] <blackshirt> arlo, your address.. you should understand differneces between public and private address
[13:12] <velho> hello ubuntu friends :)
[13:12] <ThinkT510> !ppa | layke__
[13:12] <layke__> And also, yeats, will the previous package I installed from multiverse not clash? Will it overright?
[13:13] <arlo> blackshirt my adress is public
[13:13] <gsteinert> hi velho
[13:13] <arlo> but i dont have router, how can i open ports?
[13:13] <yeats> layke__: I would probably use this (keeping in mind the caveats about ppas in general): https://launchpad.net/~awstools-dev/+archive/awstools
[13:13] <blackshirt> arlo, okey...thats you want to know
[13:13] <velho> how can I change the GRUD order?
[13:14] <velho> *GRUB order, I mean
[13:14] <yeats> layke__: once you add the PPA you can do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and it should upgrade the older package
[13:14] <arlo> yes blackshirt - im try to install ubuntu server but i dont now how i can open ports without router
[13:14] <blackshirt> velho, you mean grub?
[13:14] <velho> blackshirt, yes, GRUB. sorry :D
[13:15] <blackshirt> arlo, you cand build ubuntu as a router
[13:15] <warddr_> Hello all, does anyone know a good linux tool to design databases (like connecting fields with arrows and things like that to design a big database)
[13:15] <Tm_T> warddr_: Kexi perhaps
[13:15] <arlo> blackshirt this is only the way to this?
[13:15] <velho> how to change the GRUB order?
[13:15] <DoctorD90> Someone knows how to type vhosts and receive All ip available?
[13:16] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | velho
[13:16] <arlo> nice, so i can build my server to router ?
[13:16] <bobcat__> all my icons from menu panel in pangolin 12.04
[13:16] <blackshirt> Arlo, commonly ports was associated with some services
[13:16] <bobcat__> is missing.  can anyone help out ?
[13:16] <codescience> https://www.facebook.com/events/499872426692189/
[13:17] <blackshirt> velho, grub config resides on /etc/grub.d/ directory
[13:17] <ThinkT510> codescience: don't advertise please
[13:17] <warddr_> Tm_T, that looks like the kind of tool I am looking for, thanks!
[13:17] <codescience> sorry, mistake
[13:17] <codescience> did not know that was going to happen!
[13:18] <arlo> blackshirt i only want to open to wep
[13:18] <ThinkT510> !wep | arlo
[13:18] <arlo> so i install my ubuntu server to router and after i open ports on this.
[13:18] <arlo> ubottu not wep, i mean webserver.
[13:18] <iwert> how do i unistall software?
[13:19] <yeats> iwert: how did you install it?
[13:19] <Tm_T> sre-su: hi, I suspect your ssh issue is due to too open rights on the key files on server side, please review those
[13:19] <iwert> via terminal
[13:19] <arlo> Blackshirt can i run Router server - Webserver - on the same server?
[13:19] <velho> ThinkT510, I just want to change the GRUB order. I know what GRUB is
[13:19] <velho> blackshirt, and how can one change it?
[13:19] <yeats> iwert: okay - but how?  ./configure/make/make install? some setup script? etc.
[13:19] <blackshirt> arlo, you can install webserver on your ubuntu
[13:19] <iwert> idk
[13:20] <ThinkT510> velho: that page has great info to help you
[13:20] <iwert> sudo
[13:20] <dstaubsauger> Hi, in ubuntu's current thunderbird, i just dragged and dropped an attachment from my "sent" folder to a new mail. thunderbird attached a file with the correct name, but the content was that of the first attachment i ever sent with thunderbird (a totally unrelated holyday photo, renamed to the name of the pdf file i intended to send). what bugtracker do i report this on?
[13:20] <yeats> iwert: then there's not a way anyone can advise you without more details
[13:20] <velho> ThinkT510, where is that info?
[13:20] <ThinkT510> !grub | velho
[13:20] <iwert> deb pakige install
[13:21] <blackshirt> velho, look at 10_linux and learn some thing, if you have enough understand you can edit it,but be carefully
[13:21] <yeats> iwert: so you downloaded a deb and did 'sudo dpkg -i <package'?
[13:21] <iwert> yeas i thinkl
[13:21] <velho> ThinkT510, don't get me wrong here, but I JUST want to change toe grub order. as simple as that. don't want to read for hours and understand GRUB in a pro way. just want to change the order...
[13:22] <ThinkT510> velho: i'm trying to help you learn, /etc/default/grub is where you change the order
[13:22] <yeats> iwert: in that case, 'sudo dpkg -r <package>'
[13:22] <nexusguy59> Good Morning everyone
[13:23] <iwert> the origenal packige name?
[13:23] <iwert> ore just the short name?
[13:23] <yeats> iwert: and - general unsolicited advice - you probably need to read up on software installation on ubuntu
[13:23] <yeats> iwert: I would try the short name
[13:24] <velho> ThinkT510, thank you for that, but I just want to learn tat one thing, not the hole GRUB thing. I think I found the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 thank you :D
[13:24] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> anybody here?
[13:24] <arlo> blackshirt can i run router - and webserver on the same server?
[13:25] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> I have an error
[13:25] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i cant figure out
[13:25] <gsteinert> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: only 1524 of us
[13:25] <gsteinert> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: whats the error?
[13:25] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> doesnt mean your awake gste LOL
[13:25] <ThinkT510> velho: just because i link a page to you doesn't mean i expect you to read the whole thing ;)
[13:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo
[13:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> im running 12.04 LTS
[13:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> workstation
[13:26] <velho> ThinkT510, I'm really a noobie...
[13:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ive googled it but cant find any real info on it
[13:27] <velho> ThinkT510, can't understant those commands
[13:27] <gnomefreak> is that the whole error and what are you doing to get the error
[13:27] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> causing my computer to hang
[13:27] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats from Xorg
[13:27] <velho> ThinkT510, and don't know how to use them.
[13:27] <myhero1> how to do yahoo cam on pidgin.....???
[13:27] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats all it says
[13:27] <arlo> anyone now can i run router - and webserver on the same server?
[13:27] <ThinkT510> velho: then you likely won't want to change the order
[13:27] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> dont think ya do myhero
[13:28] <velho> How can I change the GRUB order? thank you for any help
[13:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> the symptoms are it hangs......... peroidically
[13:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> not crashes
[13:28] <myhero1> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: its saying currently video is not supported for yahoo
[13:28] <slate> what kind of QA goes into the apt repo? I am installing pdns-mysql-backend from a brand new install. It asked me if I wanted to pkgconfigure it and it errors with right syntax to use    │
[13:28] <slate>  │ near 'type=InnoDB' at line 10. Isn't innodb default in mysql, this is rediculous
[13:28] <blackshirt> velho, are you haven't solved it?
[13:28] <velho> ThinkT510, sure I do. That's the ONLY thing I want to do. But I need help because I cannot do it alone
[13:29] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> any ideas?
[13:29] <velho> blackshirt, no.. I don't know what and how to do it. can you help?
[13:29] <velho> blackshirt, and please don't RTFM me...
[13:30] <ThinkT510> velho: the documentation explains it rather well, where are you stuck?
[13:30] <Beast1> hi all
[13:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok it just did it again
[13:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it hangs for a few seconds then releases
[13:30] <yeats> !attitude | velho
[13:30] <gsteinert> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: we need to know what you are doing to cause the error
[13:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> nothing
[13:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> just sitting here
[13:31] <slate> velho: ur wasting ur time here.. as am I
[13:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it just did it again
[13:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> system just hangs for a few seconds then takes off again
[13:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> runs fine for a few minutes and does it again
[13:31] <velho> ThinkT510, at the begining. how can I edit , and what to edit?
[13:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> any logs I could look at to diagnose?
[13:32] <yeats> slate: you'd get further if you just state your problem without the griping - you haven't provided enough detail for anyone to help yet
[13:32] <velho> slate, why are you saying that? this community always as been helpfull to me. great people here
[13:32] <ThinkT510> velho: i told you what to edit: /etc/default/grub
[13:32] <iwert> how do i unhide text file extensions
[13:32] <gsteinert> slate: ubuntu, along with the majority of the software available, is developed and supported by volunteers. coming in complaining will only get you ignored. people don't appreciate griping when they give up their free time for this
[13:32] <KyaHuaa> what daemon tools I should use for running  Ubuntu.iso directly on Windows. Without  installing Ubuntu
[13:32] <velho> ThinkT510, so how can I edit that? thank you for your pacience
[13:32] <KyaHuaa> what daemon tools I should use for running  Ubuntu.iso directly on Windows. Without  installing Ubuntu
[13:32] <ThinkT510> velho: the documentation tells you how to edit: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub &
[13:32] <victor_> UFFF
[13:33] <victor_> hacía tiempo que no entraba yo en un irc ...
[13:33] <KyaHuaa> Sorry accidently happened twice
[13:33] <ThinkT510> velho: that will open /etc/default/grub in a text editor (gedit)
[13:33] <slate> gsteinert: sounds like a canned response as if this happens freqently. wonder why so many people gripe
[13:34] <Chiko> can only get c# console apps running on linux not ones with forms =/
[13:34] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> any diagnostics or logs i could check?
[13:34] <gsteinert> slate: because people expect the same sort of support they get in paid for products. you can't expect a community of volunteers to take your complaining as well as somebody who is paid for it
[13:34] <velho> ThinkT510, nevermind... I was using the GUI search instead of the terminal. "palmface"
[13:35] <gsteinert> slate: help us with a decent attitude and some more information and we'll be happy to help you
[13:35] <iwert> oke what the hell
[13:35] <ThinkT510> velho: then you change the line: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to whatever number you want to boot first
[13:36] <iwert> i instal love deb it dint work, u uninstall it and instal the old version on the usc and now its no where to bee seen
[13:36] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> gsteinert: any logs i could check to help diagnose my error?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> velho: check which number corresponds to what by looking at the order the entries appear in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:36] <yeats> iwert: in a terminal do 'dpkg -l | grep <packagename>'
[13:37] <gsteinert> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: take a look in /var/log... i forget what the name of the xorg log is
[13:37] <iwert> its says its instaled in the ubuntu software center
[13:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> got a few
[13:37] <yeats> iwert: so what do you mean by 'its no where to bee seen'?
[13:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> gimme  a second
[13:38] <iwert> i cant find it
[13:38] <ThinkT510> velho: when you finished editing and then save the file run: sudo update-grub
[13:38] <iwert> only in terminal if i type its name it runs
[13:38] <arlo> hello are there a simple way to open port without router, i need to run webserver ?
[13:38] <arlo> i have public _ ip adress
[13:38] <gsteinert> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: you can ignore anything ending in .1, .2, etc. they are older logs
[13:38] <yeats> iwert: what is the name of the program? (more details are better)
[13:38] <iwert> but i need its root and the finder isnt finding it
[13:38] <iwert> love
[13:39] <yeats> !info love
[13:39] <myhero1> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: any way to make yahoo cam work on pidgin ??
[13:39] <yeats> iwert: is it supposed to have a GUI?
[13:39] <velho> ThinkT510, I cannot understand this text :( but I know that I want the 4th option to be selected as default. should I insert the number "3"?
[13:39] <iwert> yes the one that dint work i cude find
[13:39] <ThinkT510> velho: yes
[13:39] <yeats> iwert: development frameworks typically don't as far as I know
[13:40] <iwert> its a lua engine
[13:40] <ThinkT510> velho: so it would be: GRUB_DEFAULT=3
[13:40] <yeats> iwert: okay - then I wouldn't expect it to be available via Unity/the GUI
[13:40] <myhero1> can anyone help ???
[13:40] <iwert> it was with the one i did the deb instal on
[13:41] <iwert> but i needs its root
[13:41] <velho> slate, just be pacient and chill out. People are helping because they want, this is not a "service". If no one is helping you, try to be more descriptive, and patient
[13:41] <yeats> iwert: I'm sorry - I don't understand
[13:41] <iwert> i need to put a folder in the engine to run my own games
[13:41] <velho> ThinkT510, AHA! :) thanks!
[13:42] <ThinkT510> velho: so save it before you close it then run: sudo update-grub
[13:43] <velho> ThinkT510, done :)
[13:43] <velho> ThinkT510, thank you so much for you patience and time :D
[13:43] <guest49026> hi
[13:43] <ThinkT510> velho: no worries, see it's easier than you think :)
[13:44] <blackshirt> sorry
[13:44] <blackshirt> i have lost my connection
[13:44] <velho> ThinkT510, it always is! I gotta use more linux. it's not easy to adapt do the terminal, but it's easier to change system configurations that way
[13:45] <slate> how to enable innodb in mysql? I set default-storage-engine=innodb  default-table-type=innodb in mysql but still get error on query near 'type=InnoDB' at line 10
[13:46] <yeats> slate: can you pastebin the file that's showing the error? (scrubbing any private information of course)
[13:46] <blackshirt> slate, mysql support innodb table'by default
[13:46] <velho> blackshirt, in the house! welcome again :) ThinkT510 helped me awesomly, but thank you for your time too :D
[13:46] <slate> yeats: this is apt-get install pdns-mysql-backend and it is running dpkg configure
[13:47] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> gonna reboot
[13:47] <slate> or dbconfig-common, ... some autoconfig curses thing
[13:47] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> brb
[13:47] <CTLwm> anyone using openvpn client in ubuntu?
[13:48] <velho> \j #gimp
[13:48] <yeats> slate: is that the exact full wording of the error?
[13:48] <gsteinert> slate: i think the query should be ENGINE=InnoDB, instead of type=InnoDB is the query part of the dpkg configure?
[13:49] <slate> mysql said: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'type=InnoDB' at line 10
[13:50] <gsteinert> slate: is that all the output you get?
[13:50] <slate> gsteinert: yes
[13:50] <evilpoptart> Is there a way to make the ubuntu software center only show free software?
[13:50] <raidgh0st> 01:04.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) does not work as expected in latest ubuntu.
[13:51] <raidgh0st> Is there a way to get it work propperly, cause it doesnt show up with mii-tool or ifconfig ethx
[13:51] <slate> gsteinert: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-09-16_09_50_06-wXxzGlUH.png
[13:53] <blackshirt> slate, mysql support innodb by default
[13:54] <yeats> slate: I would grep for 'type=InnoDB' in /etc/mysql/ and possibly other places to try and track down the source of that
[13:54] <xuserr> hi
[13:54] <blackshirt> hi xuserr
[13:56] <xuserr> does anybody know a n64 emulator for ubuntu?
[13:56] <xuserr> i tried project 64 under wine but it doesnt work
[13:56] <evilpoptart> How do you make the ubuntu software center not show apps that cost $$ ?
[13:56] <jacta> Can anyone help me how to unmount/mount my usb drive? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09162012-035623pm.php
[13:56] <blackshirt> sorry user, i dont't have experience with it
[13:57] <raidgh0st> Any problems found on this card
[13:57] <raidgh0st> 01:04.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) does not work as expected in latest ubuntu.
[13:57] <raidgh0st> ?
[13:57] <blackshirt> jacta, identify what is your usb device recognized by kernel
[13:58] <jacta> blackshirt, not sure what to do? Just inserted the drive in usb
[13:58] <blackshirt> jacta, are you familiar with command line?
[13:59] <evilpoptart> How can you make the ubuntu software center only show free software?
[13:59] <jacta> blackshirt, yep, just not commands in general :)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> evilpoptart, the enterprise apps or perhaps you have a repository that contains commercial packages , check your repositories in the software center
[13:59] <yeats> !info mupen64plus | xuserr - I don't know anything about this but:
[14:00] <blackshirt> jacta, mount -t type /some/device/recognized /some/mount/point
[14:00] <evilpoptart> having issues with my xchat app- is anyone able to see this??
[14:01] <anonymous_> yup
[14:01] <evilpoptart> Great - thank you
[14:01] <anonymous_> urr wellcome
[14:01] <evilpoptart> Now for the real question... does anyone know how to make Ubuntu Software Center only show free software?
[14:02] <evilpoptart> Not the stuff that costs $$
[14:02] <Kingsy> how is this possible ==> sudo modprobe /lib/modules/3.2.0-30-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko             FATAL: Module /lib/modules/3.2.0_30_generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko not found.     <-- where the hell did thos _ come from?
[14:02] <Enekoos> hello
[14:02] <anonymous_> hi
[14:03] <Enekoos> hi anonymous_
[14:03] <ThinkT510> Kingsy: surely its just: sudo modprobe fglrx
[14:03] <anonymous_> hi enekoos
[14:03] <raidgh0st> I must say that this channel is helpfull.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> evilpoptart, did you see my post above ?
[14:03] <evilpoptart> no, I had to reconnect because my app was acting up
[14:03] <evilpoptart> sorry - can you repost?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> evilpoptart, the enterprise apps or perhaps you have a repository that contains commercial packages , check your repositories in the software center
[14:04] <slate> gsteinert:  changed query to ENGINE=InnoDB in, /usr/share/dbconfig-common/data/pdns-backend-mysql/install/mysql and the query seems to have finished, seems the package is shipping with out dated schema
[14:04] <Enekoos> I try change SO ubuntu running to raid but have problem with  grub any can say what is my error? I make this howto http://pastebin.com/FF4dhXEm
[14:04] <ki2wt>  funny i was in london  i came across anonymous group , why do they all look like spanish?
[14:04] <ThinkT510> !ot | ki2wt
[14:05] <Kingsy> ThinkT510: but the driver installation put that file there, surely I am supposed to use it?
[14:05] <evilpoptart> /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't really give many details about what the sources actually are so I'm having trouble pinpointing which one it is.
[14:05] <gsteinert> slate: glad to hear it =) you should file a bug report on launchpad with the fix. that way it should find its way into the repos
[14:05] <ThinkT510> Kingsy: my point was why are you quoting the whole path?
[14:06] <Kingsy> ThinkT510: to specify the exact .ko I wanted the kernel to use
[14:06] <ThinkT510> Kingsy: are there multiple fglrx modules?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ki2wt, they actually have Guy Fawkes masks , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
[14:07] <Kingsy> ThinkT510: weird it says WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module fglrx
[14:07] <Kingsy> ThinkT510: where is a module blacklisted?
[14:07] <florian> I have a tft screen additionally to my notebook screen. when I close the top of my notebook, both screens go off. however, I would like to have the notebook screen off and the tft display on. how can I do it? who can help me? where do I find a how-to?
[14:07] <ThinkT510> !blacklist | Kingsy
[14:08] <florian> I have a tft screen additionally to my notebook screen. when I close the top of my notebook, both screens go off. however, I would like to have the notebook screen off and the tft display on. how can I do it? who can help me? where do I find a how-to?
[14:11] <ThinkT510> florian: does it turn the display off or is the notebook actually going into hibernate/suspend when you shut the lid?
[14:13] <evilpoptart> Does anyone know which repository is populating the software center with "For Purchase" software?  I would like to disable it.
[14:13] <testing123> florian i would like to ask if you have used the bios options?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> evilpoptart: i don't use software centre, i use synaptic and haven't seen any pay-for software in there
[14:14] <ThinkT510> evilpoptart: maybe its just a software centre thing
[14:14] <evilpoptart> Good to know, thank you.
[14:14] <florian> testing123, which bios options?
[14:16] <testing123> when you first turn on your note book. you can enter the bios by tapping the 'delete' key or the 'F2' key.
[14:17] <faLUCE> hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic
[14:17] <vinceableworld> New linux user here... having all kinds of problems with skype - just uninstalled again after installing skype wrapper and skype contacts window kept stealing my cursor. help?
[14:17] <ThinkT510> !skype | vinceableworld
[14:18] <vinceableworld> If anyone who uses skype - successfully - on ubuntu - could message me I'd greatly appreciate it.
[14:18] <florian> testing123, thank you, I'll give it a try.
[14:18] <testing123> okay, have a good day.
[14:18] <ThinkT510> florian: its unlikely to be a bios setting
[14:19] <vinceableworld> Think... I believe I've already tried this in some form or another... will try again however.
[14:20] <vinceableworld> Think: Do u use skype?
[14:20] <ThinkT510> vinceableworld: no, i try to avoid closed source software
[14:20] <vinceableworld> Is there an alternative to skype... but still be able to chat with skype contacts?
[14:20] <vinceableworld> I hear you my friend.
[14:20] <vinceableworld> Already built up a ton of contacts on there however.
[14:21] <yeats> vinceableworld: skype is the only program to use with the skype network (afaik)
[14:21] <vinceableworld> Will need to move them over to open source.
[14:21] <testing123> ThinkT510 i have the option to enable/disable what displays to use in my note books bios settings. I thought by me sharing this info might be of help to florian.
[14:22] <ThinkT510> testing123: regarding using external displays? how woulf the bios be aware of that?
[14:22] <ThinkT510> would
[14:22] <xCyb0rg> How come every second there is a problem with my ubuntu
[14:22] <vinceableworld> using pidgin.. how do I get rid of the "entered" and "left" messages?
[14:22] <xCyb0rg> I just reinstall last night after having a login error at the login screen
[14:22] <xCyb0rg> I stay up all night just to reinstall
[14:23] <xCyb0rg> then I wake up in the morning and its not reading my mouse or network connect
[14:23] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok back
[14:23] <xCyb0rg> Which in order to fix I have to enter a book of commands just to fix
[14:23] <florian> testing123, ThinkT510: Thank you very much, I'll have a look into the bios, I know a bit about it. thanks for your help.
[14:23] <xCyb0rg> I am only going to run ubuntu as a iso to only learn bash shell
[14:24] <user82> i am looking for a new graphics card for my barebone. the ati is 100% wrecked with the driver does nvidia proprietary work better?
[14:24] <yeats> vinceableworld: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8661527&postcount=5
[14:24] <vinceableworld> okay really anoying... how do I get rid of the channel messages in here?
[14:24] <gordonjcp> user82: depends what you mean by "better"
[14:24] <gordonjcp> !ignore | vinceableworld
[14:24] <gordonjcp> vinceableworld: sorry, that was useless
[14:24] <gordonjcp> vinceableworld: it's something like ignore parts joins
[14:25] <yeats> vinceableworld: '/ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS' I think
[14:25] <vinceableworld> tyvm
[14:25] <user82> gordonjcp the ati driver causes video stuttering and has no 3d acceleration so it is worse thatn the opensource one with my card. i just expect a workign 3d graphics
[14:25] <vinceableworld> unknown command
[14:26] <user82> there was one specific version that worked because it is a special low profile barebone card...but it does not anymore with ubuntu 12.04
[14:26] <vinceableworld> i think i need to install the plugin pack.
[14:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> gsteinert ya still here?
[14:26] <vinceableworld> very frustrating... working ON my computer instead of WITH it.
[14:27] <vinceableworld> bbl
[14:27] <ThinkT510> vinceableworld: pidgin is more designed for im rather than irc, maybe a dedicated irc client like xchat would be better to use
[14:27] <tomek__> hi everyone. If i edit my /etc/profile, can I reload the system without rebooting?
[14:27] <yeats> tomek__: '. /etc/profile'
[14:27] <tomek__> sorry, fairly new to Linux
[14:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> the old messages pop up in the messaging system
[14:28] <tomek__> ahhh
[14:28] <tomek__> i thought so
[14:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> not very friendly tho
[14:28] <testing123> ThinkT510 i dont know that much about external device and bios options, but i did have good intentions to share what little i know about my note book.options. I am not intending any offence to you.
[14:28] <tomek__> it looks like PowerShell leached off of linux than
[14:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> couldnt find them to reply LOL
[14:28] <tomek__> haha
[14:29] <epzil0n> hi, i need to set a keybinding to the brightness controll in ubuntu using the keyboard setting control, but what's the command for brightness up and brightness down?
[14:30] <ThinkT510> testing123: sorry, in my experience using external displays depends mostly on the graphics card and driver and os settings, the bios hardly enters into the picture
[14:31] <ThinkT510> testing123: perhaps its screensaver settings or what to do when the lid closes (power settings)
[14:31] <testing123> I am in agreement with you.
[14:33] <testing123> thanks for sharing and good day!!
[14:33] <vinceableworld> Alright I think I got that
[14:33] <vinceableworld> no more joins/parts (using hide plugin)
[14:34] <vinceableworld> alright friends... now that I can see myself think.
[14:35] <vinceableworld> Anyone here use skype? successfully? (please answer this question specifically)
[14:35] <raidgh0st> http://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/ didnt solve the problem. So DOES anyone else have a solution?
[14:35] <xangua> !anyone | vinceableworld
[14:36] <vinceableworld> tried that - I got a non-skype user pointing me to skype information.
[14:36] <vinceableworld> Not very useful and time consuming to boot.
[14:36] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> what do you need vince
[14:36] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> I use it daily
[14:37] <vinceableworld> Okay does it work? On Ubuntu? I've had all kinds of problems... then installed skype wrapper...
[14:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> yes it works fine for me
[14:37] <vinceableworld> and skype contacts window kept jumping up and stealing my cursor.
[14:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> no issues
[14:37] <vinceableworld> is there a specific PPA I need to install?
[14:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> im running 12.04
[14:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i just ran the skype install package
[14:38] <vinceableworld> I just had to uninstall it again - same here 12.04... now I'm talking to the right bring.
[14:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> and it worked
[14:38] <xangua> vinceableworld: skype is on the Partner repository, no need to add or install third party apps like what 'wrapper'
[14:38] <vinceableworld> hmm.
[14:38] <vinceableworld> Do you frequently have issues with it making you offline when you're not offline?
[14:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> not at all
[14:38] <vinceableworld> errors sending messages?
[14:39] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ive been on video call all day
[14:39] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> from malaysia to the US
[14:39] <vinceableworld> this is a fairly new computer... lenovo thinkpad edge - so wtf is my problem?
[14:39] <vinceableworld> lol
[14:39] <xangua> !language | vinceableworld
[14:39] <vinceableworld> yes master.
[14:40] <vinceableworld> wtf= what the fudge
[14:40] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ive got an older fujitsu..............my problem is my nvidia card
[14:40] <vinceableworld> did u think i meant something else?
[14:40] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it makes me drop calls because my computer is locking up
[14:40] <vinceableworld> okay so xangua - u use skype from a specific ppa?
[14:40] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> but after it unfreezes it calls right back
[14:40] <xangua> vinceableworld: no
[14:41] <vinceableworld> okay then please... kindly stop helping me.
[14:41] <vinceableworld> do you use skype at all?
[14:41] <ThinkT510> vinceableworld: ease up on the attitude
[14:41] <Calinou> why do you even use skype?
[14:42] <vinceableworld> As soon as others do... I will too friend. I think most linux users are linux users because they don't want to be bossed around by the likes of bill gates.
[14:42] <vinceableworld> Cal: Have many contacts - hundreds. just migrated from windows two days ago.
[14:42] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ummmmmmmmmmm free phone calinou
[14:42] <vinceableworld> will take time to wean myself off skype.
[14:42] <lodasn> test
[14:43] <Calinou> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: it's not free
[14:43] <blackshirt> helo lodasn, what are you doing?
[14:43] <Calinou> you can phone for free skype-to-skype, not skype-to-phone
[14:43] <ThinkT510> !test | lodasn
[14:43] <Calinou> actual phones
[14:43] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok $2 a month............cheaper than $2 a minute
[14:43] <vinceableworld> Cal: Is there a free phoning app on linux?
[14:43] <Calinou> "phoning"? no, why?
[14:43] <vinceableworld> cuz that would be AWESOME?
[14:43] <lodasn> I use irc first time.
[14:43] <Calinou> if you want to call from computer to computer, I advise not using skype.
[14:44] <xangua> !ot | Calinou Mtn_Bkng_Dave
[14:44] <Calinou> it is terrible spyware
[14:44] <blackshirt> great lodasn
[14:44] <Calinou> no u ot
[14:44] <vinceableworld> Thanks for the advise my friend.
[14:44] <Calinou> xangua: try harder, I'm banned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <blackshirt> !irc > lodasn
[14:44] <vinceableworld> unsolicited even.
[14:44] <xangua> Calinou: this is a support channel, not what i think about x app channel
[14:44] <alexia> ciao
[14:44] <vinceableworld> Thanks xan
[14:44] <alexia> lista
[14:44] <vinceableworld> now back to support issues...
[14:45] <vinceableworld> So should I just reinstall ubuntu completely? I started from the DVD
[14:45] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok somebody help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[14:45] <xangua> vinceableworld: neved had a trouble for skype, neither from the Parter repository or downloadink the package they provide from skype.com
[14:46] <vinceableworld> xan you use skype then?
[14:46] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats from Xdiagnose
[14:47] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i use it for everything.............computer to computer, computer to phone, phone to computer
[14:47] <xangua> vinceableworld: i could only suggest you to remove third party apps like that 'wrapper' you mentioned it and maybe delete skype configuration files in your home
[14:48] <vinceableworld> Okay so just uninstalling doesn't remove the configuration files?
[14:48] <vinceableworld> I've uninstalled both skype and the wrapper.
[14:48] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[14:48] <arlo_> hello how can i check about port 22 open on my windows server
[14:48] <ThinkT510> arlo_: try ##windows
[14:49] <arlo_> no
[14:49] <arlo_> sorry
[14:49] <arlo_> i mean ubuntu server :-)
[14:49] <blackshirt> arlo, try to check with some tool
[14:49] <xangua> vinceableworld: it does not, open your home with nautilus, Control+h will show your hidden directories, delete or remove .Skype
[14:49] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> where did gsteinert go?
[14:49] <arlo_> what is the simple way on ubuntu server?
[14:49] <vinceableworld> ah nautilus...
[14:50] <vinceableworld> what is that?
[14:50] <GeneralxCyb0rg> Ubuntu has way to many problems and you have to code everything in
[14:50] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[14:50] <GeneralxCyb0rg> its very very annoying
[14:50] <vinceableworld> sorry...
[14:50] <blackshirt> arlo_, netstat -ntapl
[14:50] <ThinkT510> vinceableworld: nautilus = default file manager
[14:51] <vinceableworld> ah... so just click the folder then.
[14:51] <vinceableworld> Okay I see em... tyvm
[14:51] <vinceableworld> I guess I'll try to reboot and reinstall now.
[14:52] <vinceableworld> Is reboot usually a good idea or un-necessary on ubuntu?
[14:52] <Kingsy> guys, I have no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ how do I generate a clean one?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> vinceableworld: normally unnecessary
[14:52] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody please help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[14:52] <Kingsy> because xrandr is saying xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default   <--- I assume that is because of xorg
[14:52] <blackshirt> vinceableworld, unnecessary
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> hey
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> how are ubuntu people doing
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> me im not doing well
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> i have not slept
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> ;(
[14:53] <ThinkT510> !ot | linuxuz3r
[14:53] <linuxuz3r> cant sleep for the past week
[14:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave>  I think ya need #sleepingpill
[14:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody please help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[14:55] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> how many lines can you post in here before the floodbot boots you?
[14:55] <blackshirt> mtn_bkng_dave, that from dmesg?
[14:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats from xdiagnose
[14:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> got a log file if you wanna see it
[14:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> looks like a driver conflict of some sort
[14:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i just cant sort it out
[14:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> computer is loading up...........freezing.........then taking off again
[14:57] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.059] [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed.
[14:57] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.059]
[14:57] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> that starts it all
[14:58] <savio> hello i have an issue with network-manager sometimes i try to connect to my dsl connection but it just don't connect i need to restart servral times to connect it
[14:58] <savio> i'm bad after half hour i'm able to connect now
[14:58] <linuxuz3r> java script is nice
[14:59] <linuxuz3r> now i can see how it works
[14:59] <Kingsy> anyone?
[15:00] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody please help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[15:00] <linuxuz3r> savio, try ifconfig eth0 up
[15:00] <vinceableworld> Okay so rebooted... now I should just go direct to skype's site and install it?
[15:00] <L3top> Kingsy: xorg.conf is depreciated, but you can generate one by closing any x windows (if you are using unity sudo service lightdm stop), and typing Xorg -configure  it will dump an xorg.conf.new in your home directory
[15:00] <linuxuz3r> savio, or ifconfig eth0 down
[15:01] <savio> i try all this
[15:01] <xangua> vinceableworld: or just install it from software center, automatic updates
[15:01] <L3top> How are you connecting? Wireless? Wired? savio
[15:01] <savio> sometimes nm just don't show anything
[15:01] <savio> wired
[15:01] <savio> ppp connection dsl
[15:01] <mario_> hi im having trouble to update my ubuntu  and i think it has to do with this Acquire::http::proxy "http://173.224.120.70:8118/"; this ip is giving me problems.
[15:02] <L3top> route -n | grep UG
[15:02] <L3top> savio:
[15:02] <mario_> way  is update conecting over  a proxy
[15:02] <L3top> does that return a result?
[15:02] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> yes..........vince its not in the software center.........it will redirect you to the skype site
[15:02] <vinceableworld> I don't think I have the correct build in software center.
[15:02] <savio> right now i'm connected
[15:02] <Kingsy> hmm ok
[15:03] <L3top> mario_: do you have any PPAs installed?
[15:03] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it wasnt even in my software center...........it sent me to the skype site
[15:03] <vinceableworld> says "available from the 'precise-partner' source
[15:03] <savio> L3top, it return result
[15:03] <savio> why this is happening
[15:03] <mario_> L3top,  dont know  but when i try  to update i get 0% [Connecting to 173.224.120.70 (173.224.120.70)] [Connecting to 173.224.120.70 (173.224.120.70)]
[15:03] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i would google skype for linux
[15:04] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats what i did
[15:04] <vinceableworld> I wouldn't "google" anything :-P
[15:04] <vinceableworld> Google is a gun-grabber.
[15:04] <mario_> and i get this type messages W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to 173.224.120.70:8118:
[15:04] <L3top> mario_: does ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d    return a result?
[15:04] <vinceableworld> If you like rights... stop "googling"
[15:05] <vinceableworld> https://startpage.com
[15:05] <mario_> L3top,  i get  this /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:05] <mario_> L3top,  /etc/apt/sources.list.d: Is a directory
[15:05] <vshivam> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:05] <mario_> but way is update conecting over  some proxy?
[15:06] <savio> anyone?
[15:06] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok can somebody please help me with this error ......... watchdog.c:241 watchdog_overflow_callback+Oxac/Oxdo()
[15:06] <vinceableworld> Okay i'm now installing and praying.
[15:06] <L3top> I know... that is why I said to ls (list) its contents. If it is empty that answers the question... however I dont know what i18n is... and your problem connecting is to a cononical repo... so that also answers that.
[15:06] <L3top> mario_: ^
[15:06] <yeats> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: why are you using a proxy?
[15:07] <yeats> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: sorry - meant for Mtn_Bkng_Dave
[15:07] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> what?
[15:07] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> LOL
[15:07] <yeats> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: sorry - meant for mario_ - (tab complete) ;-)
[15:07] <yeats> mario_: why are you using a proxy?
[15:07] <jrib> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: you should probably give more context (use one line to ask a detailed question though)
[15:07] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> mine is Malaysian internet.......they stole it from Thailand
[15:08] <mario_> yeats im not using proxy i just saw this  line in apt.get config
[15:08] <jrib> L3top: i18n is short for internationalization I believe
[15:08] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> its complicated jrib
[15:08] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> you wanna give it a shot
[15:08] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ill send you the info
[15:09] <mario_> yeats,  i have that proxy line in apt-config dump
[15:09] <jrib> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: I want you to just ask a proper question to the channel.  If I think I can help after I read your question, I will try
[15:09] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> that was as proper as it gets
[15:09] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> thats the error code
[15:09] <jrib> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: as you wish.
[15:09] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: there is no context though
[15:09] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> do you know anything about that error code?
[15:09] <yeats> mario_: there should be a file named something with "Proxy" in the name in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d - either open it and comment out (add a "#" at the front of) the line or remove the file altogether
[15:09] <savio> please i need help?
[15:09] <yeats> mario_: then to apt-get update and you should be able to connect
[15:10] <jrib> savio: ask your question; we will help if we know how
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> Ok what kind of context would you like?
[15:10] <jrib> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: all of it...
[15:10] <savio> hello i have an issue with network-manager sometimes i try to connect to my dsl connection but it just don't connect i need to restart servral times to connect it
[15:10] <mario_> can someone  post apt-config dump in that proxy area to see what it says
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.077] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x37) [0xb774f627]
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.077] 1: /usr/bin/X (mieqEnqueue+0x223) [0xb772d973]
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.077] 2: /usr/bin/X (0xb75c7000+0x4ccd5) [0xb7613cd5]
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.077] 3: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostMotionEventM+0xf9) [0xb7654d99]
[15:10] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> [   911.077] 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0xb4e43000+0x3c3d) [0xb4e46c3d]
[15:11] <FloodBot1> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <yeats> mario_: 'cd /etc/apt/' then 'grep -Ri proxy *' will find it for you
[15:12] <mario_> buy way that proxy apeared in first place i didnt put it. did i get hacked?
[15:13] <yeats> mario_: almost certainly not
[15:13] <savio> same issue as this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+question/171117
[15:13] <savio> only i'm using realtek driver
[15:13] <yeats> mario_: for one thing, a hacker wouldn't bother setting up an APT proxy ;-)
[15:15] <savio> mario_, if hacker wants to patch your system then he will setup ....:)
[15:17] <Ascavasaion> I am running Lubuntu on an old AMD 2500+ XP, 384Mb RAM, with 20Gb, 60Gb and 20Gb HDDs.  What is the best Filesystem to format to... ext 3 or 4?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: 384mb of ram... sounds painful
[15:17] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: ext4
[15:18] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: hehehe  I am using it for downloading torrents, and as a server for th printer and scanner combo.
[15:18] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Thank you.
[15:19] <mario_> yeats i commented that proxy line but its stills try to conect to 0% [Connecting to 173.224.120.70 (173.224.120.70)] [Connecting to 173.224.120.70 (173.224.120.70)]
[15:20] <layke__> If I run sudo su - user
[15:20] <layke__> How do I get back to the user I was before?
[15:20] <mario_> yeats,  it still tried to 173.224.120.70
[15:20] <ThinkT510> layke__: don't sudo su
[15:20] <ThinkT510> layke__: exit
[15:21] <layke__> Thanks :) ThinkT510
[15:22] <mario_> update managet seems to be  working now
[15:23] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: use a paste site next time
[15:23] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok found some info while i was trying to log back in
[15:23] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it has something to do with the Nvidia driver
[15:23] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> and 12.04
[15:24] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> does  anybody here have any info regarding that?
[15:24] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: you are being vague again
[15:24] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/167604/nvidia-driver-problems-and-latest-ubuntu-12-04-3-2-0-27-generic-kernel
[15:24] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> read that post
[15:25] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> its the same problem I am seeing
[15:25] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: and what nvidia driver are you using?
[15:26] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> the Xorg log is Identical
[15:26] <alek66> any idea why mt-daapd package is no longer in the repository?
[15:26] <mario_> yay thanks for the help its updating
[15:26] <mario_>  but still doent expains way that  proxy apeared
[15:27] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> In additional drivers it is listed as NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)(version current-updates)
[15:28] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: open nvidia settings to get the version
[15:28] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> where would i open that
[15:28] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: gksudo nvidia-settings in a terminal
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[15:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> version 172.14.35
[15:30] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> oops 173.14.35
[15:30] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: 173? is this an old nvidia card?
[15:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> yes
[15:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> old laptop
[15:31] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> about 6 years old or older
[15:32] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: what kernel are you on? uname -a
[15:32] <savio> anyone help me again i run to similar problem
[15:32] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave>  3.2.0-30-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 17:14:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[15:33] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: hmm, i'm not sure what to suggest then, sorry
[15:35] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: you could try out the nouveau driver, see if that has problems
[15:36] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> whats the get?
[15:36] <ThinkT510> !nouveau | Mtn_Bkng_Dave
[15:36] <dr_willis> its built in  by default. if it supports that old a card is the big question
[15:37] <JoshuaP> I just went root and did chmod 770 /
[15:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> that may have been the original driver
[15:37] <JoshuaP> Everything is messing up now. Ho can I fix this?
[15:37] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i changed it to the nvidia drivers to try to correct it
[15:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> no change
[15:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> if that is the default
[15:38] <OerHeks> JoshuaP, uh oh, that means reinstall
[15:38] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: try to correct what
[15:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> the stuttering problem
[15:38] <JoshuaP> Aw, man..
[15:38] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> computer just freezes for a few seconds
[15:39] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> doesnt crash...........just freezes
[15:39] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: how did you install nvidia-173
[15:39] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> from the additional drivers selection in the config
[15:39] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> System Settings, Additional Drivers
[15:39] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: lastly what version of buntu are you running
[15:40] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 3.2.0-30-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 17:14:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[15:40] <L3top> lsb_release -sc
[15:40] <dr_willis> JoshuaP:  you could    boot a live cd and see what permissions are on / and try to fix it.
[15:41] <L3top> how much ram do you have in a 6 yr old laptop that you are running the PAE kernel Mtn_Bkng_Dave?
[15:41] <savio> anyone?
[15:41] <ThinkT510> L3top: pae is default now
[15:41] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 4GB
[15:41] <dr_willis> savio:  i dident evn see the question..
[15:42] <dr_willis> pae would only be needed if more then 4gb wouldent it?
[15:42] <L3top> ThinkT510: I thought it made a determination based on ram... and that would have done it... but... I am not sure how I feel about that if you are correct ThinkT510...
[15:42] <L3top> more than 3.2 I would assume dr_willis
[15:43] <savio> dr_willis, i have dsl connection my isp provides me i got device not manaed so i edit .conf file of nm
[15:43] <dr_willis> i wonder if hes not defaulting tothe vga drivers.
[15:43] <savio> i set ifdown=true
[15:44] <savio> but still at some point nm don't connect to internet i need to restart several times to able to connect it
[15:44] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it seems to be a pretty common problem with 12.04
[15:44] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/167604/nvidia-driver-problems-and-latest-ubuntu-12-04-3-2-0-27-generic-kernel
[15:44] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> this describes the issue
[15:45] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> Xorg log is almost identical
[15:45] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> just  a different driver version
[15:48] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: do you have an audio playback problem as well?
[15:48] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> http://pastebin.com/ydyvMi00       this is my logfile
[15:48] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> yes audio and video freeze simultaneously
[15:49] <L3top> that isn't what I meant... you do hear audio before the crash correct Mtn_Bkng_Dave?
[15:49] <savio> dr_willis, ?
[15:49] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it doesnt crash
[15:49] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it just freezes momentarily
[15:49] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> i just did it again
[15:49] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> its not a hard crash
[15:49] <L3top> understood
[15:49] <L3top> but you do have audio... in general.
[15:50] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> yes i have audio
[15:50] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have no idea what happened but my sister did some stuff and her laptop boots to busybox and nothing beyond that. its supposed to have kubuntu 12.04.1
[15:50] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ive been on skype all day
[15:50] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> video and audio playback work fine
[15:50] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> it just hangs..........then continues
[15:51] <JoshuaP> dr_willis, what permissions should I place on / then?
[15:52] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> and this is a brand new install
[15:52]  * L3top wonders if this has to do with the loss of the xserver-xorg-abi-1* drivers.
[15:53] <L3top> or the compensation thereof.
[15:53] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3
[15:53] <L3top> what kernel module is in use?
[15:53]  * L3top guesses you are using nouveau still
[15:53] <L3top> lsmod | grep nouveau       Mtn_Bkng_Dave
[15:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M G] [10de:0428] (rev a1)
[15:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Limited. Device [10cf:1422]
[15:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[15:54] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> 	Kernel modules: nvidia_current, nvidia_current_updates, nvidia_173, nvidia_173_updates, nouveau, nvidiafb
[15:55] <L3top> does the second command poduce a result Mtn_Bkng_Dave?
[15:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> nope
[15:56] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> its running the nvidia
[15:56] <L3top> ok... so there goes that theory
[15:56] <L3top> Correct.
[15:56] <ThinkT510> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: if you are pasting multiple lines please use a paste site
[15:56] <JoshuaP> dr_willis, what permissions should I place on / then?
[15:57] <L3top> Mtn_Bkng_Dave: out of curiosity, does sudo dpkg --configure -a   produce any dialog with regards to fixing or failing?
[15:57] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: you are likely better off reinstalling if you've messed up permissions on the whole of /
[15:57] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> none
[15:57] <JoshuaP> I just thought it'd give everybody in the group root read/write permissions.
[15:58] <JoshuaP> ThinkT510, why did this happen when I did this? the terminal w0on't even execute now.
[15:58] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: why did you do that?
[15:59] <Guest29165> hello, i need an advice on buying a pci sata controller to use with ubuntu 11.04, can you help?
[15:59] <JoshuaP> ThinkT510, I just thought it'd give everybody in the group root read/write permissions.
[15:59] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: that doesn't answer the question
[16:00] <ThinkT510> Guest29165: 11.04 support will be ending soon
[16:00] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> so now what?
[16:00] <JoshuaP> ThinkT510, I thought it would take out having to use sudo all the time.
[16:01] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: sudo is there for a reason
[16:01] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: you need to accept the use of sudo as a security measure
[16:01] <JoshuaP> ThinkT510, to run things as root, but I always forget to use sudo so I have to write entire commands yet again.
[16:01] <e-v-o> does anyone know of an open source documentary?
[16:01] <Guest29165> ThinkT510 , but can i still using it with the support made till then?
[16:01] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: how often do you run things as root?
[16:02] <ThinkT510> Guest29165: sure, but support ends next month
[16:02] <JoshuaP> Everytime I open a terminal, almost.
[16:02] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | Guest29165
[16:02] <Al0011235813> To avoid writing sudo all the time, use sudo -i at the beginning to make yourself root
[16:03] <black_13> what does hd-media mean in reference to a boot cd
[16:03] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: what are you running that requires root all the time?
[16:03] <Guest29165> ThinkT510 , do you know where can i find a list of supported pci sata controllers for ubuntu 11.04?
[16:03] <JoshuaP> Well, today, I was trying to tamper with file mod privileges.
[16:03] <ThinkT510> !hcl | Guest29165
[16:04] <JoshuaP> ThinkT510, then I thought, "why not have the whole dang FS accessible to the root group! What harm could come out of such?"
[16:04] <ThinkT510> JoshuaP: haha, you have a lot to learn
[16:05] <JoshuaP> Once I did it, not even chmod could be found as a command.
[16:05] <Al0011235813> I agree with Josh, it's generally a bad idea to mess with root permissions without good reason
[16:05] <Guest29165> hello, i need an advice on buying a pci sata controller to use with ubuntu 11.04, can you help?
[16:06] <Daghdha> hi, when i click the 'DASH HOME' button the dash home does not appear. I do get a minimize/maximize/close button on the top right after i click it.What'sgoing on? It's running but not visible it seems
[16:06] <IdleOne> !hcl | Guest29165
[16:06] <Al0011235813> I think Ubuntu supports the vast majority of sata controllers natively..
[16:06] <Daghdha> I can even typ ekeyword adn run an app
[16:06] <Guest29165> Idleone , i cant find anything about pci sata on that page
[16:08] <Al0011235813> You know, you could always check the manufacturers web page if they require any specific OS support
[16:09] <arlo_> hmm are there are ubuntu expert some can help me to open port 22 on my server?
[16:10] <Al0011235813> sudo ufw allow out 22
[16:10] <Al0011235813> In the terminal
[16:10] <ThinkT510> !sshd | arlo_
[16:10] <maco_> arlo_: no ports are blocked by default. you just need a service to listen on the port. i presume you need ssh since you said 22? sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:10] <arlo_> maco i have a openssh server
[16:10] <arlo_> but i can not connect with my public ip
[16:11] <arlo_> but i can connect with local ip
[16:11] <ThinkT510> arlo_: then you need to port forward to your router
[16:11] <maco_> arlo_: what do you mean public ip versus local ip? are you behind a NAT-based router?
[16:11] <arlo_> I dont have router
[16:11] <arlo_> its a direct with cable
[16:12] <ThinkT510> arlo_: what's giving you your local ip?
[16:12] <arlo_> ifconfig from server
[16:12] <arlo_> this giv mig intet addr : this working <
[16:12] <arlo_> give"
[16:13] <arlo_> you can connect me with teameiwer and i can show you
[16:13] <Al0011235813> @arlo; that sounds like an issue with your ISP
[16:14] <Al0011235813> Maybe you should contact your ISP and ask them if they have their own firewall?
[16:14] <arlo_> im sure
[16:14] <arlo_> its working before
[16:14] <arlo_> can anyone connect me with teamwiewer and i can show you?
[16:15] <JoFo> Hello every body
[16:15] <JoFo> Do you know a way to customize the IM Cedilla?
[16:15] <Al0011235813> It's more likely an issue with your ISP on their side. If you want to be sure, you can run a liveUSB and try that so there can't be any configuration issues with you#r server
[16:15] <arlo_> Its a clean ubuntu server
[16:15] <randomdrake> Hello. I have dual monitors hooked up to my Geforce video card. I got twin view working okay through nvidia-settings-manager, but Unity just thinks I have a single big monitor called "Laptop".
[16:16] <vshivam> how to use git pull push.. I am behind a proxy server
[16:16] <vshivam> =/
[16:16] <randomdrake> This prevents me from being able to maximize videos in a single monitor. Any suggestions?
[16:19] <King5> Hello
[16:19] <sisar> I have a Leno Ultrabook U410 (500GB HDD + 32GB SSD). When I tried installing Ubuntu 12.04 on it, the installer failed to detect aither hard disk. However, GParted, whcih is able to recognize the drives. How do I install Ubuntu ?
[16:19] <sisar> *Lenovo
[16:19] <Guest29165> hello, i need an advice on buying a pci sata controller to use with ubuntu 11.04, can you help?
[16:19]  * King5 ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤  ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
[16:20] <Hatrix> hello
[16:21] <kilroy> sorry, afk... bye
[16:21] <sisar> vshivam: u can set proxy settings using: `git config --global <proxy_details>`
[16:21] <sisar> vshivam: sorry, u have to use: `git config --global http.proxy <proxy_details>`
[16:29] <mannytu> http://revision3.com/osalt/ubuntu-black-screen
[16:30] <Austin> hola
[16:30] <mannytu> How to Fix Ubuntu Black Screen of DEATH - OS.ALT
[16:30] <ThinkT510> mannytu: please don't advertise
[16:30] <Austin> alguien habla español?¿
[16:31] <ThinkT510> !es | Austin
[16:31] <mannytu> I think this is sisar problem and how to fix
[16:32] <Austin> hola
[16:33] <home_> ciao
[16:34] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> ok back
[16:34] <home_> !list
[16:34] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> any more ideas L3top?
[16:35] <L3top> afraid I am afk now
[16:35] <Mtn_Bkng_Dave> np
[16:35] <Austin> holaa
[16:35] <L3top> or afc as the case may be
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> !es > Austin
[16:36] <cob> fucking 3rd world micro-blackouts
[16:36] <TheLordOfTime> !language | cob
[16:36] <cob> oops, sorry
[16:37] <Al0011235813> Isn't it possible to make a word filtration system on IRC, ubottu?
[16:37] <Austin> holaaaaaaaa
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> Al0011235813, that's offtopic for here.
[16:45] <black_13> what does hd-media mean
[16:46] <Matan> black_13: google it
[16:47] <black_13> Matan: guess what wonder woman i did it was unclear
[16:47] <Matan> black_13: where you saw that
[16:47] <tudrom> i'm in lucid using panel-auto-hide function not expanded. now the panel doesnt show up any more. how to remove or adjust? any idea?
[16:49] <shihan> howdy all, for some reason when i try and umount something, its telling me its not mounted and i cant quite figure out what might be occuring: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209280/ (any suggestions?)
[16:50] <mkohler> hi guys, "java -version" says "java version "1.6.0_24"" and "javac -version" says "javac 1.7.0_07" .. how can I make java use 1.7 too?
[16:50] <mbrigdan> Hello, I have an ubuntu instance running on Amazon EC2, and mysql suddenly can't write to /tmp (and therefore can't start). /tmp permissions are 1777, and I've disabled apparmor
[16:50] <joru> Hi, i've installed some new machines (VM's) recently (12.04.1), they frequently call apt-get update every hour but I cannot seem to track down and understand how to disable or change this behavior. (I've enabled unattended-updates). the crontab for root is empty. Any hints?
[16:50] <shihan> mkohler: have a look at "update-java-alternatives" command
[16:51] <shihan> mbrigdan: do you know if its trying to write to a file that already exists (owned by someone else)?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> joru, enabled unatteneded updates settings might be the key
[16:52] <shihan> joru: have a look at /etc/cron.*
[16:52] <mbrigdan> shihan, I don't think so. I did "sudo -s -u mysql", and it can't write to ANY name in /tmp
[16:52] <joru> BluesKaj: I get nothing in the unattended logfile yet
[16:52] <mkohler> shihan: thanks, I will
[16:53] <joru> shihan: there is a /etc/cron.daily/apt , this is running hourly. is there some pending updates that does not get installed adn it tries again every hour?
[16:53] <joru> BluesKaj: I get no records in the unattended logfile yet
[16:54] <shihan> mbrigdan: hmmm, thats a little weird.... does "getfacl /tmp" say anything weird?
[16:54] <shihan> joru: might be wanting to ask you a question during update perhaps
[16:55] <mkohler> shihan: thanks, that helped :)
[16:55] <mbrigdan> shihan, As a matter of fact, yes! "user:mysql:r-x" How on earth did that happen!?!
[16:55] <shihan> mbrigdan: that *IS* weird :)
[16:56] <joru> shihan: well apt-get update finishes successfully.. so I am a bit confused
[16:56] <shihan> joru: if you do unattended-upgrades -d, that might tell you a few things?
[16:56] <shihan> in truth, i dont actually use the unattended-upgrades feature
[16:56] <joru> shihan: what is the -d arg for?
[16:56] <shihan> debug
[16:56] <joru> i'll check
[16:56] <mbrigdan> shihan, Yeah, I'm pretty sure I never played around with /tmp's permissions, so.. I'm confused. Whatever, should be simple to fix
[16:58] <usr13> shihan: Maybe it is a problem with update-manager itself.  Try changing the setting to weekly, (or something other than it is now).  I think the default is Daily.
[16:58] <joru> shihan: ok, no unattended upgrades pending.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> joru, heh , I thought an option like unattended upgrades might have some timer option settings ...guess I'm mistaken , can't even find the settings in synaptic
[16:59] <shihan> mbrigdan: that is an odd cercumstance, thats for sure, its not like it'd be easy to do that "accidentally" cept by cut and paste as root i guess?
[17:00] <usr13> mbrigdan: Maybe it is a problem with update-manager itself.  Try changing the setting to weekly, (or something other than it is now).  I think the default is Daily.
[17:00] <usr13> shihan: Sorry, wrong nick.
[17:00] <shihan> usr13: figured :)
[17:01] <joru> shihan: I belive i've tracked it down now through the process tree, not easy to find it ...
[17:02] <joru> BluesKaj: see last comment to shihan:
[17:02] <Guest91527> is there any software which grabs online videos and download them for me??
[17:03] <tobias_> TV connected through HDMI in my ATI Radeon HD 7950. I guess I have the wrong refresh rate or something on the TV since it feels like I'm pulling the cursor through jelly. Please help someone :)
[17:03] <TheRick> what kind of videos? from what site?
[17:03] <usr13> Guest91527: There are a couple firefox plugins
[17:03] <tomreyn> Guest91527: youtube-dl for what the name says
[17:03] <TheRick> it's easy enough to grab torrents... and there are ways to pull from youtube or whatever
[17:03] <fidel> Guest91527: clive / cclive is a cli app which might do the job
[17:03] <usr13> Guest91527: And as tomreyn points, there is a CLI one too.
[17:04] <joru> BluesKaj: /etc/cron.daily/apt has a record about unattended-upgrades, it runs every day
[17:04] <usr13> humm... gues there's more than one...
[17:05] <usr13> *guess*
[17:05] <tobias_> Is no one able to take on my TV problem?
[17:05] <Guest91527>  thanks for the suggestion
[17:05] <tomreyn> someone here recently suggested a replacement for webmin / usermin / virtualmin, which is less problematic
[17:05] <tomreyn> which one may this be?
[17:05] <tomreyn> (i forgot the name)
[17:05] <ThinkT510> !ebox | tomreyn
[17:06] <tomreyn> thanks ThinkT510 , thats the one
[17:06] <shihan> tobias_ how do you mean "pulling the cursor" do you mean the mouse is just slow to respond, or is the whole gui laggy?
[17:08] <King5> Hello
[17:08] <Viktor> hallo
[17:09] <Viktor> i got problem with UBS
[17:09] <Tkkoe> Hello to all
[17:10] <Viktor> is there any hacker here?
[17:10] <joru> BluesKaj: shihan: it was ispconfig causing this.
[17:11] <shihan> joru: i am not even sure what that is, but glad you found it :)
[17:11] <joru> shihan: thanks for help though, learned about the -d option =)
[17:12] <Ascavasaion> HOw do I get Chromium to open Transmission torrent programme when I open a link.  It is popping up a window warning me that it may be an attack.  It asks me to continue or not and when I say yes it opens another Chromium instance and goes to my default homepage.  And not Transmission.
[17:12] <King5d> Howdee
[17:12] <Tkkoe> Hello
[17:13] <omar> help
[17:13] <eliohann> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:14] <King5d> Hello%C0
[17:14] <ThinkT510> omar: rather difficult to help without a description of the problem
[17:14] <omar> I'm trying to solve this problem please help
[17:14] <omar>  Ubuntu 12.04 to update the browser stopped only works funcinar google is the homepage
[17:14] <tobias_> shihan the whole gui on my TV. My monitor works great, but my plasma TV feels a little hurt
[17:15] <Tkkoe> Hi
[17:15] <omar> skype and such works and not xchat
[17:16] <omar> my english is so so
[17:16] <omar> mi lenguaje  native es spanish
[17:16] <tobias_> bien
[17:16] <ThinkT510> !es | omar
[17:17] <Tkkoe> A
[17:20] <navap_> I connect to my server with putty/pageant with agent forwarding turned on. The forwarding doesn't work from within byobu but it does when I leave byobu. SSH_AUTH_SOCK is set in both cases. Any thoughts?
[17:21] <Zayca> Hello! What do you think abiut my site IMPIRAT.COM:D? By the way, if some one need an web-site for business I could make ^^ (in english too)
[17:21] <bartje> Hi all, anyone else here with a Intel 6 series/C200 onboard sound device? I've got issues with it, I do hove output but ubuntu seems not to find the line in...
[17:22] <shihan> tobias_: hmmm, thats a weird one, havent heard of something like that before myself... its possible its just a x config issue, have u messed aournd a bit with the settings in the ati-config tool (i cant remember the name)? might be worth setting up vnc so you can do that remotely (and hopefully not get lag)
[17:24] <tz> Hi, i'm completely new to ubuntu, just installed it on my netbook to test, I'm going to set up a small server for our business, but is it possible to get a exchange like mail-server with ubuntu server? we really need the marking system from exchange
[17:24] <melvster> hi all ... has something changed in the last few days with unity?  i used to have a sidebar, now it seems to be a new theme with 'activities' in the top left and a new dash ...
[17:26] <ThinkT510> melvster: sounds like you upgraded from one release
[17:26] <ThinkT510> melvster: lsb_release -sd
[17:26] <melvster> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:27] <ThinkT510> melvster: is that what you were expecting?
[17:27] <melvster> ThinkT510: i dont remember that i changed anything ... maybe i upgraded by mistake
[17:28] <melvster> just running the update center every so often
[17:28] <xangua> melvster: sounds like you are using gnome-shell
[17:28] <aniket> melvster, it seem your unhappy with the new look
[17:29] <f2prateek_> Trying to start with a clean install of ubuntu 12.04.1. I matched the md5 of the download, burnt it using OS X. When I boot into the live cd, i get the ubuntu loading screen, but i'm redirected to the busybox shell with the message '(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system'
[17:29] <melvster> oh right ... strange ... i cant say I'm unhappy, it was just something new that I didnt expect .... and I'm not sure if i have a system error or it's just normal
[17:29] <IdleOne> melvster: can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing
[17:30] <melvster> sure ...
[17:30] <ThinkT510> melvster: yeah, screenshots to the rescue!
[17:31] <f2prateek_> mount dev/disk/by-label/<drive name>gives me erro /etc/fstab
[17:31] <f2prateek_> *error
[17:31] <f2prateek_> mount:can't read '/etc/fstab' : no such file or directory
[17:32] <melvster> hmm seems the screenshot mechanism isnt working for me anymore, i get the sound of the camera, but not the dialog box to save ... if i run unity --reset it tends to take me back to my old settings tho
[17:33] <melvster> maybe ill just do a fresh install
[17:33] <aniket> f2prateek_, are you running the command being a root?
[17:33] <f2prateek_> cnat run sudo
[17:33] <f2prateek_> cant run sudo
[17:33] <f2prateek_> or su
[17:33] <f2prateek_> says command not found
[17:34] <aniket> try 'su -'
[17:34] <jrib> f2prateek_: pastebin the exact command and full output
[17:34] <PythonStudent> I'm taking a database management course this semester, as well as a linux course, so I'd like to keep everything on the same OS if I can
[17:34] <fidel> f2prateek_: what is the output of: which sudo
[17:34] <shihan> wait, he's in the initramfs, it has almost nothing in the way of tools
[17:34] <PythonStudent> what's a good access alternative for ubuntu?
[17:34] <jrib> f2prateek_: never mind, I thought you were asking a new question but it seems someone is already helping you
[17:34] <f2prateek_> k will do, just s ec
[17:34] <f2prateek_> *sec
[17:35] <jrib> !who | f2prateek_
[17:35] <ThinkT510> PythonStudent: libreoffice base?
[17:35] <fidel> jrib: actually it was a new question - feel free ;)
[17:35] <melvster> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[17:35] <melvster> gnome-shell
[17:35] <f2prateek_> ubottu: ahh sorry , i'll keep in mind
[17:35] <melvster> somehow it switched me to gnome-shell?
[17:35] <melvster> or is that normal?
[17:35] <PythonStudent> ThinkT510: oh really? I haven't looked at libreoffice yet
[17:35] <PythonStudent> thanks
[17:36] <f2prateek_> fidel: 'which sudo' doesnt give me any error, but doestn display anything either
[17:36] <ThinkT510> PythonStudent: if they are dealing with access specifically then you may need to bite the bullet
[17:36] <Sokel> Gnome shell is annoying. So is unity. But Gnome Shell is a forward direction than Unity. And XFCE is a forward direction from Gnome Shell. Take your pick.
[17:36] <tz> Is there some mail server that allows users to "mark" the mail they are working with? so 2-3 people don't start working on the same incoming mail?
[17:36] <IdleOne> melvster: it didn't switch on its own, you have to have installed it.. Not a big issue, if you prefer Unity when you login select it by clicking on the gear icon.
[17:36] <PythonStudent> ThinkT510: They're not
[17:36] <jrib> f2prateek_: have you managed to install ubuntu yet?
[17:36] <ThinkT510> PythonStudent: awesome
[17:37] <f2prateek_> jrib: her's a picutre of the screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj8fnq607ugk16l/2012-09-16%2011.34.03.jpg
[17:37] <fengman> lfs-support
[17:38] <f2prateek_> not if sure if that link went through, there it is again http://bit.ly/U0S1Bf
[17:38] <f2prateek_> aniket: su - has the same result, /bin/sd:su not found
[17:38] <f2prateek_> */bin/sh:su
[17:39] <aniket> f2prateek_, was your ubuntu a complete installation or with errors, that didn't install some packages.
[17:39] <ThinkT510> aniket: thats a livecd
[17:39] <f2prateek_> aniket: this is just me setting it up the first time, all i did was prepare the cd, and boot into it
[17:40] <jrib> f2prateek_: you should (1) run "check the cd for defects" from the first menu you see when booting, and (2) if that doesn't work or isn't available, just use the alternate install cd
[17:40] <f2prateek_> aniket: i was expecting to see the ubuntu welcome screen and installer, but got this busybox shell
[17:41] <f2prateek_> jrib: i checked the md5 of the download image,i'll cehck the discs as well and get back
[17:41] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, i am beck again still having a random problem. I am trying to run Halo:CE (the first one) on ubuntu. Hw is htinkpad t60, radeon x3100, ubuntu 32 bit all updates. I have tried many things so far. Problem is it runs past the intro videos but does not load the menu. (where directx is started)
[17:42] <ThinkT510> !wine | Pinkamena_D
[17:43] <Pinkamena_D> Please do not assume i have not searched about this problem before i came here, but if no one really has any idea, i will accept that and give up.
[17:43] <ThinkT510> Pinkamena_D: are you running unity or compiz?
[17:44] <^-^Kyrina> join #japan
[17:44] <Pinkamena_D> unity
[17:44] <xibalba> anyone have a preference on distros for a laptop?
[17:44] <xibalba> i was looking at backtrack, but i dont know if that's feasible to run on a full laptop all the time
[17:44] <Pinkamena_D> the window system is fine. It just shows a black screen after loading with the background music playing
[17:44] <ThinkT510> Pinkamena_D: #winehq clearly states that games dislike compiz
[17:45] <ThinkT510> Pinkamena_D: try it in unity2d (that uses metacity instead of compiz)
[17:45] <Pinkamena_D> of all the htings i have tried so far, the only hting that changes anything is if i use the -use00 switch when running the program
[17:45] <Pinkamena_D> then it shows a bunch of distorted lines instead of a black screen
[17:46] <ThinkT510> Pinkamena_D: its not really a ubuntu issue, its a wine issue, use #winehq
[17:46] <lauratika> im looking for a calendar app that can remind me on events or activities by date or litlle bit before does anyone know of a good one?
[17:46] <tim442> Pinkamena_D: Have you installed the restricted drivers for your video card?
[17:47] <puppy_parade> Any idea when the AMD 7000 series Open Source drivers are going to get pushed?
[17:47] <Pinkamena_D> i was trying to unserstand the radeon page on the ubuntu website, and from what i gathered after running the commands it said, i already have the correct drivers. But no, i have not installed anything additional after installing ubuntu
[17:47] <shihan> lauratika: i use sunbird in thunderbird myself
[17:48] <nsaquatics> test
[17:48] <ThinkT510> !test | nsaquatics
[17:48] <nsaquatics> huh.. sorry.
[17:48] <tim442> Pinkamena_D:  try to open the application "Additional Drivers" and see if ubuntu finds one for your card.  if available, select activate on the latest version
[17:48] <lauratika> shihan can i use it withoput using thunderbird currently using other mail app
[17:49] <shihan> lauratika: yeah, sunbird is the stand-alone version, "lightning" is the embedded addon one
[17:50] <gear4_> I'm getting an "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory" error ..
[17:50] <f2prateek_> jrib: selecting the check disk takes me to the ubuntu loading screen and into the busybox shell again. I'm guessing that means something is wrong with the disc.
[17:50] <Pinkamena_D> it says no propriatary drivers in use on this systtem
[17:50] <Pinkamena_D> (nothing below that)
[17:51] <tz> My ubuntu is sluggish, new install, even Irc is lagging. Maby my netbook is not great enough? can I don anything to "turn down" the gui effects to increase performance?
[17:51] <ThinkT510> tz: specs
[17:51] <lauratika> shihan:where is located?...
[17:52] <shihan> lauratika, the standalone verion i think you have to get direct from the mozilla site
[17:52] <armsx> hai all user...
[17:52] <armsx> can some on help me..
[17:52] <tz> ThinkT510:  1,2ghz celeron ulv, 4gig ram, hd 3000 graphics
[17:53] <gear4_> I'm getting an "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory" error ..
[17:53] <ThinkT510> tz: that should be fine
[17:53] <ThinkT510> tz: try out unity2d to see if you notice a performance improvement
[17:53] <shihan> !ask | armsx
[17:54] <tz> ThinkT510, I'll give it a try, this is almost unusable
[17:54] <gear4_> nvm
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> armsx, The channel works by you asking a question regarding your problem.
[17:54] <Beast1> Should running badblocks -sv -b 512 /dev/sda from a live CD and sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 while running off the HD ilicit different results?
[17:54] <Beast1> Should running badblocks -sv -b 512 /dev/sda from a live CD and sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 while running off the HD ilicit different results?
[17:54] <Beast1> Should running badblocks -sv -b 512 /dev/sda from a live CD and sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 while running off the HD ilicit different results?
[17:55] <Beast1> oops! sorry
[17:55] <bkc_> depends
[17:55] <bkc_> Beast1: ^
[17:55] <Beast1> I got 9 badblocks with the first command running from Ubuntu live cd
[17:56] <armsx> i need a tutorial or guide how to install efront(LMS) in ubuntu..
[17:56] <Beast1> and nothing after reinstalling and upgrading to 12.10, running off of the HD
[17:56] <bkc_> I'm guessing sda1 is the root-partition :/
[17:56] <Beast1> bkc_: yep
[17:57] <bkc_> well... don't run badblocks on the mounted partition ^^
[17:57] <shihan> well, if the bad blocks are before the first partition then there would most likely be a difference between /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[17:57] <Ascavasaion> HOw do I get Chromium to open Transmission torrent programme when I open a link.  It is popping up a window warning me that it may be an attack.  It asks me to continue or not and when I say yes it opens another Chromium instance and goes to my default homepage.  And not Transmission.
[17:58] <Beast1> off, there might still be badblocks but ouside of sda1
[17:58] <bkc_> sure
[17:58] <bkc_> ooh, missed that you ran on sda for the first one :)
[17:58] <Beast1> I guess I shoudl rerun it on on sda and not specifiy a partition
[17:58] <bkc_> and sda1 on the second
[17:59] <bkc_> yes
[17:59] <aniket> f2prateek_, can you provide with you system info. or see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=807345
[17:59] <Beast1> bkc_: yes
[17:59] <Beast1> I'm looking at following this procedure to isolate the badblocks http://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2010/12/bad-blocks-on-harddisk.html
[18:00] <Meet> is there any channel for general programming discussion?
[18:01] <shihan> i think theres ##programming?
[18:01] <Beast1> ok thanks for hearing me out bkc_  I got a plan of action and know why the second time no errors popped up. Should have caught it
[18:02] <jragon> I just deleted a file from my usb drive, now there's a grey box hovering where teh delete box was. How can I reset gnome?
[18:02] <armsx> which channel is web administration basic discussion ?
[18:02] <tz> ubuntu
[18:02] <Sokel> jragon: sudo killall gnome-panel or I think it's now gnome-shell or nautilus. Take your pick.
[18:02] <bkc_> jragon: press F5
[18:02] <Beast1> jragon: there used to be program to recuperate deleted files called photo something
[18:03] <bkc_> Beast1: he wanted it deleted, not recovered. but thanks for the tip ;)
[18:03] <Beast1> ah
[18:04] <bkc_> Beast1: also, that program only works on photos (looks for "files" starting with a certain set of magics) :)
[18:04] <jragon> http://imgur.com/5xkcl this is what is on my screen.
[18:04] <armsx> i got problem in installing the LMS (efront) in ubuntu..... after already done installing phpmyadmin..... i want configure httpd.conf...but my httpd.conf is blank...
[18:04] <Beast1> bkc_: I thought it did more. Let me see find that page
[18:05] <jragon> I'm using Cinnamon btw
[18:05] <bkc_> !mint | jragon
[18:05] <tz> ThinkT510, thanks for the suggestion, unity 2d helped alot
[18:08] <ThinkT510> tz: seems like compiz is a little too heavy for your system then
[18:09] <Ray2> Is it possible to move an os from a small flash drive to a larger flash drive
[18:09] <jpastore> Hola I'm in Peru at a Starbucks using my phone to hopefully get some tips. My NetBook won't connect to their wifi but has connected everywhere else...any ideas?
[18:09] <Sokel> Ray2: Of course it is.
[18:09] <Sokel> Ray2: You can actually use dd to do that.
[18:09] <layke__> When I click on a text file, it opens it in vim. How can I change this behaviour?
[18:09] <xibalba> jpastore, try the dns or icmp proxies
[18:09] <Beast1> bkc_: foudn it. It's called PhotoRec. and it supports more than photo formats. see http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File_Formats_Recovered_By_PhotoRec
[18:09] <Sokel> Ray2: Only problem is that the partitions will not fill up the bigger drive until you expand them via lvm
[18:10] <smj> my Make has been broken for too long, what should I check and how do I fix it... no matter what parameters I give it, no matter what directory it's run it, it just eats memory and crashes the system
[18:10] <smj> *in
[18:10] <Sokel> jpastore: That's a problem on their end. You can't do anything about it, essentially.
[18:10] <jpastore> Xibalba: I can't authenticate from the NetBook but I can from my phone
[18:11] <shihan> smj: personally, i'd go "apt-get purge make", then "apt-get install make", see if that fixes it
[18:11] <Sokel> xibalba: He's saying he can't connect to their wifi.
[18:11] <Sokel> xibalba: It has nothing to do with proxies.
[18:11] <jpastore> Sokel: I was thinking they might need a firmware update...they speak English so I've been making friends
[18:11] <bkc_> Ray2: short answer "yes"
[18:12] <jpastore> Gracias guys
[18:12] <Sokel> Ray2: dd if=device1 of=device2
[18:12] <shihan> jparker, it *MIGHT* be a jurisdiction thing... if your from the US your wifi might only go to channel 11, and in peru, they might go to 14 (thats a big *might*)
[18:12] <Sokel> Ray2: And then it's up to you to expand the lvm partitions to fill the rest of the drive.
[18:12] <bkc_> Sokel: don't do that -.-
[18:12] <shihan> err jpastore, not jparker
[18:12] <bkc_> Ray2: ^
[18:12] <Sokel> bkc_: Best way to do it.
[18:13] <bkc_> Sokel: no... it will most likely mess up your hdd...
[18:13] <Sokel> bkc_: He's asking about transferring a small USB OS to a bigger drive. That's the easiest way to do it. It will NOT mess up the main drives.
[18:13] <Sokel> bkc_: Unless you specifically target them.
[18:13] <xibalba> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 will solve your problem
[18:14] <Sokel> tr -c "[:digit:]" " " < /dev/urandom | dd cbs=$COLUMNS conv=unblock | GREP_COLOR="1;32" grep --color "[^ ]"
[18:14] <Sokel> This will.
[18:14] <f2prateek_> where can i read up more about partitioning specifically for new ubuntu installation
[18:15] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | f2prateek_
[18:15] <Ascavasaion> f2prateek_: man fdisk ???
[18:15] <f2prateek_> oh perfect
[18:16] <smj> shihan: that would remove some other packages too
[18:17] <shihan> smj: yeah, mostly development ones
[18:17] <mcdermmn> im trying to create a xen guest with virt-manager and it fails leaving this in xend.log, ERROR (SrvBase:88) Request wait_for_devices failed.
[18:17] <mcdermmn> anyone run into this before
[18:18] <DarkAceLaptop> 1. I stick in my SD Card 2. I accidentally press open with Shotwell and it saved the settings to always do that when I plug my SD in 3. How am I supposed to UNDO??
[18:19] <shihan> smj: the other option is to "strace -f -o /tmp/somelogfile make" and try and figure out why its going memory nuts via looking at /tmp/somelogfile
[18:19] <phunyguy> DarkAceLaptop, go into system settings, and Details
[18:19] <phunyguy> autorun options are in there
[18:19] <ThinkT510> DarkAceLaptop: there should be some removable media settings somewhere
[18:19] <DarkAceLaptop> what's the command for system settings, phunyguy
[18:19] <phunyguy> ThinkT510, that was helpful,  ;)
[18:19] <ThinkT510> DarkAceLaptop: if you are on unity type removable in the dash
[18:19] <phunyguy> DarkAceLaptop, type it in the unity launcher
[18:20] <DarkAceLaptop> I'm not in Unity
[18:20] <phunyguy> What version of Ubuntu?
[18:20] <DarkAceLaptop> 12.04
[18:20] <phunyguy> and no unity?
[18:20] <DarkAceLaptop> MATE DE
[18:20] <ThinkT510> DarkAceLaptop: mate isn't supported
[18:20] <Sokel> You're using mint. Go to their channel.
[18:20] <phunyguy> Have fun with that
[18:21] <DarkAceLaptop> no one likes Unity though :P
[18:21] <Sokel> (Though in my opinion, mint is going in the right direction in terms of desktops ;)
[18:21] <DarkAceLaptop> Sokel, I'm not mint, if you're talking to me :P
[18:21] <Sokel> DarkAceLaptop: Ok, then leave.
[18:21] <xidea> hello world
[18:21] <Sokel> Not supported.
[18:21] <ThinkT510> DarkAceLaptop: thats not true, but you go on believing the hype
[18:22] <Sokel> Unity is pretty dumb
[18:22] <Sokel> Step backwards.
[18:22] <Petaz> and it violates apple patents
[18:22] <phunyguy> DarkAceLaptop, I must be nobody.
[18:22] <DarkAceLaptop> :P
[18:22] <phunyguy> Petaz, how can it violate a patent if it's free
[18:23] <omar> hello
[18:23] <omar> help
[18:23] <phunyguy> !ask | omar
[18:23] <shihan> !ot |everyone
[18:23] <Petaz> what free has got to do with it?
[18:23] <phunyguy> Petaz, no money being made
[18:23] <Petaz> so ...?
[18:24] <kyubutsu> free as in 'freedom' not 'beer'
[18:24] <Al0011235813> Is there any actual support question here? Or just another mate vs unity debate? Can't you do that on the forums?
[18:24] <Sokel> Why would Apple care, honestly. It's all open source. Apple's main kernel and inner workings are open source too. so they can suck it.
[18:24] <phunyguy> offtopic it is
[18:24] <Sokel> Hard.
[18:24] <omar> I can not browse after update I can only enter skype and more programs that deal with the internet in Ubuntu 12.04
[18:24] <shihan> yeah, this isnt the place for either the patent discussion or a unity vs everyone flamefest
[18:25] <kyubutsu> open source has its legalese as well..
[18:25] <upset> Help help help! I just finished my brief speech for a funeral and uberwriter has made an unclosable dialogue before i could save!!
[18:25] <upset> Help, please help. i have to have this text
[18:25] <uget> hello everybody. i'm still using ubuntu 10.10 and i have plan to upgrade it into the latest ubuntu.
[18:25] <upset> I have to leave in 15 minutes
[18:25] <Sokel> upset: Sounds like trouble.
[18:25] <ThinkT510> upset: what is uberwriter?
[18:25] <upset> Sokel: No kidding
[18:25] <upset> It's a markdown doc writer
[18:25] <cute_bettong> how do you install a .deb file if you don't know the dependancys the standard "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb isen't working
[18:26] <ThinkT510> uget: you are better off installing afresh
[18:26] <upset> cute_bettong it will ask for the dependencies
[18:26] <smj> shihan: can you translate the log file?
[18:26] <shihan> cute_bettong: usually its "dpkg -i" then "apt-get install -f"
[18:26] <shihan> smj: probably not, but if you pastebin the last 100 or so lines i'll have a look?
[18:26] <Tuba-Respect> Can anyone help me. Ubuntu is crashing and I was told to go to technical support.
[18:26] <uget> what is the effect of installing a fresh ubuntu?
[18:26] <uget> i'm in dual boot.
[18:26] <Sokel> Tuba-Respect: How is it crashing
[18:26] <cute_bettong> im trying to install streamtuner in ubuntu 12.04 32 bit and i can't find it in the repo's and i can't get the .deb file to install
[18:27] <upset> Is there a location where the temp data is stored for uberwriter??
[18:27] <tz> Isnt temp data deleted when a program get closed?
[18:27] <Sokel> tz: When a program crahses, the files are NOT deleted.
[18:28] <tz> Sokel, ow, sorry, didnt read it was crashed :)
[18:28] <Sokel> If I'm writing in libre, and it crashes, the files are left over and are recoverable.
[18:28] <spoljo> tz: even some new are writen , core dump
[18:28] <upset> Does anyone know?? There's an uncloseable dialogue because of pantheon
[18:28] <Sokel> That is true
[18:28] <shihan> upset: if you can, drag the unclosable dialogue to one side, see if theres another dialogue underneight it (hold down alt and click on it perhaps)
[18:28] <smj> shihan: http://pastebin.fi/raw/Q0FTRZhL2U
[18:29] <aniket> cute_bettong, isn't there any option right clicking and installing through a package installer.
[18:29] <smj> here's a thousand lines http://pastebin.fi/raw/2fiBnzXH4I
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> !eol | uget
[18:29] <upset> shihan: I can't, modal dialogue because of pantheon.
[18:30] <upset> shihan: I don't know if there is a safe way to close this dialogue without accidentally quitting the program
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> uget, Make sure you always have your stuff backed up is your best insurance.
[18:30] <tz> Anyone here has experience with citadel mail server?
[18:31] <Tuba-Respect> I have a Macbook mid 2007 and am running Ubuntu 12.04.1LTS. The graphics driver (xserver-xorg-video-intel) is constantly crashing. Also, the kernel panics.
[18:32] <shihan> upset: ouch, that sounds painfully problematic
[18:32] <shihan> smj: hmm, cant see it doing much thats bad, are u sure its make thats chewing up the memory?
[18:32] <upset> shihan: It's my own grandfather's funeral. I'm going nuts
[18:33] <shihan> upset: well, it *might* be possible to dump the memory from the process and perhaps retrieve parts of the document from it... thats a big might tho
[18:34] <upset> shihan: nvm, elementary guys helped. The key was ESC btn
[18:34] <uget> what about the applications that i've installed? will they lost from my system after i install a fresh ubuntu?
[18:34] <upset> shihan: Thank you
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> mate is a mint DE
[18:34] <shihan> upset: no worries, glad to here its sorted
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> oops
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> uget, Afresh install is what its name implies.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> uget, If you install 12.04 it is supported for 5 years not 18 months like 10.10 was.
[18:37] <jragon> http://dpaste.com/801773/ that's the permissions for /var/www/Tocora I can't cd into any of the directories nor can I open any files.
[18:37] <jragon> (I don't have permission)
[18:39] <uget> may i know, how to back up my machine, especially the installed applications?
[18:40] <XATRIX> hi guys, is it a ubuntu-server support channel ?
[18:41] <ThinkT510> XATRIX: here or #ubuntu-server
[18:41] <XATRIX> thanks
[18:41] <kyubutsu> not sure if deja dup will do what you want but its the default backup app in ubuntu 12.04, uget
[18:42] <kyubutsu> works well for common backup needs
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> uget, What you want backed up is the stuff you can't lose such as media docs..etc. With a end of life you are best to have a list of the applications and any extra repos that may have been used like a ppa for example. With a jump from 10.10 the a[pplications at best will be a newer version, and may or may not be supported in a 3rd party ppa, you have to check. I think you may be realizing now that waiting so long and letting the OS go end of l
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> ife causes a bit of a problem.
[18:43] <smj> shihan: here's the last 1000 lines after I let it run for a longer while http://pastebin.fi/raw/KKG5BvQaTH
[18:44] <GeekAdmin> hi. Whats the command used to create a list of all the packages that are installed? I need to reinstall Ubuntu and want to make it easy to install all my packages again. Thanks
[18:44] <uget> well, i will try it. thanks.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> GeekAdmin  dpkg --get-selections
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> GeekAdmin  or else: dpkg -l|grep ii|awk '{print $2}'
[18:46] <GeekAdmin> MonkeyDust:  thanks!
[18:46] <ChrisWere> hey guys, I've just install 12.04 and got a tonne of errors off the bat, anyone got time to help me?
[18:47]  * Otrock Ytyy
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !help | ChrisWere
[18:47]  * Otrock Hello%C5
[18:48] <ChrisWere> okay so first error I'm constantly getting this popup box that says System program problem detected, do you want to report the problem now?. Excpet there's no problem with my machine, what can I do about this?
[18:49] <kyubutsu> 'a ton of errors' is quite the general statement..; but if its a fresh install it might just be easy to reinstall. if that failed already, plot thickens...
[18:50] <edve> is there anyone that really know well Squid3 proxy ?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> ChrisWere, have you run gthe update manager and are updated? Have you clicked on the warning for info on the error.
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> ChrisWere  is this what you mean? http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/08/how-to-disable-apport-reporting-on.html
[18:51] <kyubutsu> i don't think disabling apport should be the first course of action .. :(
[18:51] <edve> \
[18:51] <edve> is there anyone that really know well Squid3 proxy ?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> ChrisWere  kyubutsu when my 12.04 was fresh and new, I had that issue too, it went away
[18:52] <kyubutsu> there is that one command that rebuilds dpkg.. maybe that would do; along with running 'apt-get update'
[18:52] <DanTheBeastMan> Anyone had recent success debootstrapping precise or quantal?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> edve, You will not know unless you folow the channel guidelines which are ask the actual question not for help.
[18:53] <mikk0> i need a list of what sata raid devices ubuntu supports. ubuntu.com's online documentation links to some old document that only mentions ide and scsi devices. can anyone help?
[18:53] <ChrisWere> MonkeyDust: thanks that should help, okay next problem. I've been trying to set up dual moniters one with a resolution of 1280x960 and another with 1024x768. I have the Nvidia drivers and everything's up-to-date but I can't get gnome or unity to work with 3d effects. Any ideas?
[18:53] <notlrac11> HELLO DOES ANYONE WANT TO HELP WITH CREATING A OPERATING SYSTEM IF SO EMAIL notlrac11@icloud.com       ps. sorry bout the caps just needed to make it stand out
[18:53] <GeekAdmin> unfortunetly I have to install XP, even though I have Ubuntu installed.  I was hoping I could install XP without having to uninstall Ubuntu first, but cant find a good up-to-date guide.  Anyone have a good up to date guide?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> ChrisWere  try arandr
[18:54] <shihan> mikk0: you probably want to look more at what linux itself supports rather then ubuntu
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, Is the ubuntu in a a extended partition as of now, and your only OS?
[18:54] <kyubutsu> GeekAdmin: you MUST install windows first . there is no way around that
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> notlrac11  trying to stand out is the best way to get ignored
[18:55] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  yes its the only OS
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, YOu answerd only 1 of 2 questions.
[18:55] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  I want to keep Ubuntu but install XP side by side. I sortof understand the process, but I dont know how to resize the partiton properly with gparted
[18:55] <DanTheBeastMan> kyubutsu: that's not true at all, you can install them in either order
[18:55] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  Ubuntu is the only OS currently
[18:55] <kyubutsu> suit yourself then
[18:55] <GeekAdmin> kyubutsu:  I know its possible to do it the other way around
[18:56] <GeekAdmin> kyubutsu:  just a pain in the butt
[18:56] <GeekAdmin> kyubutsu:  you have to reinstall grub and replace the windows boot loader
[18:56] <notlrac11> ok so does anyone want to help build a operating system if so message me or just email at notlrac11@icloud.ocm
[18:56] <ChrisWere> MonkeyDust: I've installed arandr and run the program, what is it supposed to achieve?
[18:56] <notlrac11> com i ment
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, Can you take a screen shot of gparted looking at the HD and imagebin it.
[18:56] <Sokel> notlrac11: No one really cares
[18:57] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  shoot, I wish I could, but that PC isnt hooked up to the net right now. It doesnt have a wifi adapter
[18:57] <DanTheBeastMan> if you install windows after Ubuntu, Windows will wipe the MBR and use it's own bootloader instead of grub, which you can fix by booting a live cd, mount and chroot into your ubuntu install and run `grub-install`
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> kyubutsu, If ubuntu is not sda1 things can be moved around and XP put in the first partition, it does not have to installed first.
[18:57] <kyubutsu> well.. am all about the simplest way to fix a problem.. am not about to recommend something i wouldnt do myself and 'the other way around' isnt it
[18:57] <DanTheBeastMan> it's a bit of a hassle to install to fix the bootloader, but to say that one cannot is simply wrong
[18:58] <GeekAdmin> kyubutsu:  I'm thinking I might take your advice and just do it that way
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> kyubutsu, In the theme don't push what YOU think is correct as the whole answer.
[18:58] <ChrisWere> MonkeyDust: okay so what do I do with a randr?
[18:59] <kyubutsu> that it can be done in other ways only adds complexity to a simple solution .. thats al
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, If you have ubuntu as showing a higher then sda1 partition you most likely can resize the ubuntu and slip XP in as sda1
[18:59] <kyubutsu> all
[18:59] <Otezc> Hello
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> BS
[19:00] <sambagirl> 10.04 is still supported correct?
[19:00] <DiNgL3> Hi guys Im needing some assistance please im trying to secure some of my websites so have been doing some reading and came across this guide http://www.thefanclub.co.za/node/50 I have created a test lamp server updated to 12.04.1 and started following the guide didn't want to do it on my live sites
[19:00] <DiNgL3> I have got to securing the shared memory and im stuck
[19:00] <GeekAdmin> If I totaly reinstall Ubuntu, is all I need to do for backing up is back up the home folder, and a list of installed applications?
[19:01] <DiNgL3> I add tmpfs     /dev/shm     tmpfs     defaults,noexec,nosuid     0     0 to /etc/fstab
[19:01] <sambagirl> 10.04 is still supported correct?
[19:01] <DiNgL3> Once I have done that I reboot and receive errors upon reboot
[19:01] <imark> sambagirl: yes until april next year
[19:02] <sambagirl> thanks
[19:02] <DiNgL3> It says failed to load file type tmpfs
[19:02] <DiNgL3> Anyone got any ideas please
[19:02] <kyubutsu> !deja-dup
[19:03] <sambagirl> i use clonezilla
[19:03] <sambagirl> or just up it to a hosted site
[19:04] <saei> hello
[19:04] <dethcube> Hey, I cannot see my Ubuntu partition in grub (actually, when I try to boot my computer I just get the grub command line) I am not sure what's wrong.. have tried reinstalling it (grub) multiple times and multiple ways... no dice.
[19:04] <DiNgL3> Can any one help with my shared memory securing please?
[19:05] <saei> i am trying to go to kernel 2.6 to 3.2 in ubuntu 10.4 lu.... it wont  can any one help me with this problem please
[19:06] <Sokel> saei: Upgrade your ubuntu to a higher version. And then we can talk.
[19:06] <ChrisWere> every time I login Ubuntu creates an extra 2 new panels (top and bottom) by itself, how do i stop this from happening?
[19:07] <saei> sokel are you telling me that kernel 3.2 dont  work on ubuntu 10.4 dont like ubuntu 12
[19:08] <xibalba> hey, i just loaded ubuntu 12.04.1 onto a usb key for install and now it's saying can't mound /cdrom, anyone know how to address this?
[19:08] <ChrisWere> !help everytime I login ubuntu creates 2 new panels automatically every time. How do I stop this?
[19:08] <DiNgL3> Do I need to go to another forum for help does anyone know what my issue may be please :)
[19:08] <ThinkT510> saei: it might work but then you won't be supported so why bother running 10.04?
[19:08] <usr13> xibalba: If it's on USB, why do you need to mount /cdrom?
[19:09] <xibalba> i dont know the installer is trying to detect and mount cdrom
[19:09] <dethcube> Hey, I cannot see my Ubuntu partition in grub (actually, when I try to boot my computer I just get the grub command line) I am not sure what's wrong.. have tried reinstalling it (grub) multiple times and multiple ways... no dice.
[19:10] <testi> hi all
[19:10] <testi> sb here?
[19:10] <Robinux> hey, I'm not sure, will the first example of the /etc/network/interfaces file example ((here ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge )) work to bridge my tv box and laptop so that eth0 (tv box) can access wifi internet on eth1
[19:11] <Robinux> on the laptop
[19:11] <Sokel> saei: What I'm saying is that, if you're not getting it through their repositories, don't even think about it.
[19:11] <testi> Nobody talks to me, but why?
[19:11] <saei> ok will upgrade to 12.4 lts will the kernel 3.2 come with my upgrade or 3.5 ?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> saei: 12.04 uses 3.2
[19:11] <n0m4d> im trying to install lol
[19:12] <n0m4d> and i can get to a certin point and it freezes
[19:12] <killer> hi....how do i enable syntax highlighting in vi editor
[19:12] <n0m4d> i have tried through disc through usb and different distro
[19:12] <ChrisWere> No-one seems able to help today.
[19:12] <Robinux> or should I just use brctl? ... and will I be able to talk to the tv box from the laptop (but for sure I must able to talk to it from another machine in the wifi network).
[19:12] <n0m4d> of ubuntu
[19:12] <n0m4d> i have been googleing for like a coupe of days
[19:12] <n0m4d> back to that the
[19:13] <andreb> good day all
[19:13] <andreb> anyone has any experience setting up split dns ?
[19:13] <compdoc> Robinux, thats to set up a bridge on a pc with 2 nics
[19:13] <Robinux> which one compdoc?
[19:13] <compdoc> under the How to Bridge example
[19:14] <Robinux> oh right
[19:14] <saei> ok thank you all for you're  help
[19:14] <compdoc> thats what bridges are for - to share access to a single nic, or multiple nics on the same pc
[19:15] <compdoc> testi, this isnt a chat channel - if you have a problem, tell us
[19:15] <killer> how do i  enable syntax highlighting in vi ?
[19:15] <ChrisWere> getting any help for ubuntu is a nightmare, help us out guys! My gnome keeps adding in pannels every time I login
[19:15] <testi> compdoc: yes I've problems, much problems
[19:16] <testi> compdoc: yes I've problems, much problems
[19:16] <compdoc> which problems?
[19:16] <testi> well i don't like unity - don't want to make it bad  but i don't like it
[19:16] <testi> and i don't know what to do
[19:16] <n0m4d> i am trying to install and it freeze at the selection screen to choose a connection
[19:16] <Sokel> killar: make a .vimrc file and put in there syntax on
[19:16] <Gnea> !wii
[19:16] <n0m4d> ubuntu kbuntu
[19:16] <Robinux> compdoc, oh my... if I use brctl directly on the command line the bridge will be lost after a reboot :O
[19:16] <testi> well i don't like unity - don't want to make it bad  but i don't like it
[19:17] <testi> and i don't know what to do
[19:17] <n0m4d> fedroa an all will install
[19:17] <n0m4d> bu not ubuntu
[19:17] <DiNgL3> Hi guys Im needing some assistance please im trying to secure some of my websites so have been doing some reading and came across this guide http:/​/​www.thefanclub.co.za/​node/​50 I have created a test lamp server updated to 12.04.1 and started following the guide didn't want to do it on my live sites.  I have got to securing the shared memory and im stuck.  I add tmpfs     /dev/shm     tmpfs     defaults,noexec,nosuid     0     0 t
[19:17] <DiNgL3> the end of /etc/fstab. Once I have done that I reboot and receive errors upon reboot  - mount: unknown filesystem type tmpfs mountall: mount /dev/shm [312] terminated with status 32 mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted /dev/shm fsck from until-linux 2.20.1 (PLEASE SOMEONE HELP MY WEBSITES BEEN ATTACKED FOR A FEW DAYS NOW ;( )
[19:17] <Sokel> killer: And then in .bashrc, make an alias. alias vi='vim'
[19:17] <FloodBot1> DiNgL3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <Sokel> killer: Restart the terminal and you're good to go.
[19:17] <Robinux> compdoc, so I'm gonna have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file I guess?
[19:17] <testi> well i don't like unity - don't want to make it bad  but i don't like it
[19:17] <testi> and i don't know what to do
[19:17] <compdoc> Robinux, yes, I think thats true. you modify /etc/network/interfaces to make it permanent
[19:17] <ThinkT510> testi: then use a different desktop
[19:18] <dethcube> Hey, I cannot see my Ubuntu partition in grub (actually, when I try to boot my computer I just get the grub command line) I am not sure what's wrong.. have tried reinstalling it (grub) multiple times and multiple ways... no dice.
[19:18] <Robinux> compdoc, will be able to talk to the tv box from the laptop?
[19:18] <killer> Sokel:vimrc file....even for vi ( i m using vi not vim)
[19:18] <testi> ThinkT510: i want an improvement to unity, not something worse
[19:18] <ThinkT510> testi: then use a different desktop
[19:18] <compdoc> testi, you get used to unity after a while, and its not that bad
[19:18] <Azelphur> DiNgL3: nothing you said indicates that your server has been attacked, fyi
[19:18] <ChrisWere> anyone about to help? Fuck ubutnu's costs me a fortune in lost hours
[19:18] <testi> ThinkT510  @ compdoc : i want an improvement to unity, not something worse
[19:18] <xangua> !language | ChrisWere
[19:18] <compdoc> Robinux, that all depends on how they connect
[19:19] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: ubuntu doesn't use gnome panel any more, upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu.
[19:19] <Sokel> killer: Vim and vi are the same thing. Vim automatically turns on the syntax highlighting. And it usually presents colors if you don't get colors by default.
[19:19] <testi> i want an improvement to unity, not something worse
[19:19] <Sokel> killer: Thus making the syntax highlighting easier.
[19:19] <testi> if i change to kde or so i've something worse than UNITY
[19:19] <ChrisWere> Azelphur: I have the latest version of Ubuntu/gnome, but I can't get unity or gnome 3d working. Can you help?
[19:19] <DiNgL3> This is a test server this is not getting hacked but my lives ones have been so im following a guide to secure server but im stuck on securing the shared memory if I use the code in the /etc/fstab im unable to boot system normally I get errors and it wants me to go in recovery mode
[19:20] <ThinkT510> testi: then what are you complaining about?
[19:20] <sambagirl> in ubuntu setup it shows wolof what country is that language assocaited?
[19:20] <usr13> testi: Use another Desktop Environment.
[19:20] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: so you're running Ubuntu 12.04? what graphics card?
[19:20] <usr13> testi: xfce is nice.
[19:20] <testi> usr13: kde is not good xfce is not good lxde is not good unity is not good
[19:20] <DiNgL3> Azelphur: Are you familiar with securing shared memory
[19:20] <testi> usr13: so what alternative?
[19:20] <ChrisWere> Azelphur GTX550 Ti with propietory drivers
[19:20] <Azelphur> DiNgL3: no.
[19:20] <sambagirl> try commodore vision os for a new trist :D
[19:20] <ThinkT510> testi: gnome3, enlightenment
[19:20] <vitimiti> testi, what about gnome? or gnome classic
[19:21] <testi> ThinkT510: vitimiti gnome and e17 are not good
[19:21] <vitimiti> :/
[19:21] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: that's odd, 3d all works for me on my GTX 570, what happens when you try and login under unity?
[19:21] <DiNgL3> So please is there anyone in the channel who can offer me support
[19:21] <xangua> testi: if nothing is good to you then do not use anything¿
[19:21] <testi> xangua: gnome 2 is good
[19:21] <D[4]ni> there is another channel dedicated to programming for ubuntu, right?
[19:21] <vitimiti> testi, use gnome 2
[19:21] <testi> how? vitimiti
[19:21] <ThinkT510> testi: then use gnome fallback
[19:22] <vitimiti> testi, install gnome-shell and select gnome classic instead of gnome
[19:22] <testi> ThinkT510: don't like it
[19:22] <ThinkT510> !notunity | testi
[19:22] <testi> vitimiti: don't like it
[19:22] <ChrisWere> Azelphur same, no 3d, but I am trying to get dual moniters up and runnig which might have something to do with it. ATM I'm just trying to solve one problem at a time and stop gnome contrantly creating enw panels every time I log in. I can easily end up with 3 or more on the top and 3 or more on the bottom
[19:22] <testi> alt + tab doesn't work vitimiti ThinkT510
[19:22] <ThinkT510> testi: if you don't like anything then you're quite out of options then
[19:22] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: I run a quad monitor setup. :)
[19:22] <testi> alt + tab doesn't work vitimiti ThinkT510
[19:22] <ChrisWere> Azelphur ah good, so you should be able to help right?
[19:22] <ThinkT510> testi: alt tab works fine in xfce
[19:23] <vitimiti> testi, use arch linux, i don't know
[19:23] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: tbh if you are multi monitor you don't want unity, it's not good for multi monitor, I'd suggest going down the Xubuntu route.
[19:23] <Sokel> Arch is nasty.
[19:23] <ChrisWere> Azelphur can you help me just get it working?
[19:23] <testi> ThinkT510: i don't like xfce because the logo
[19:23] <Sokel> Might as well go plain gentoo if you're going to go that route. Or actually, use Sabayon.
[19:23] <Sokel> Call it a day
[19:23] <ThinkT510> testi: are you 10 or something?
[19:23] <xangua> !ot | Sokel vitimiti
[19:24] <ChrisWere> Azelphur Xubuntu's too buggy, although Ubuntu isn't any better. I can't belive this made Realease Candidate
[19:24] <ThinkT510> testi: go troll elsewhere
[19:24] <testi> ThinkT510: nooo i'm 23
[19:24] <kyubutsu> all the available options are in the repos, testi .. look'em up and try them.. and let us know
[19:24] <testi> ThinkT510: it's not trolling
[19:24] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: Xubuntu isn't buggy for me, 12.04 isn't a release candidate
[19:24] <testi> only like GNOME 2
[19:24] <vitimiti> ?
[19:24] <Azelphur> testi: go and get MATE desktop, it's a supported fork of gnome 2
[19:24] <theadmin> testi: There's MATE (which *is* GNOME 2), but it's not officially supported by Ubuntu, check http://mate-desktop.org
[19:24] <testi> Azelphur: i don't like MATE
[19:25] <ThinkT510> Azelphur: its not supported on ubuntu
[19:25] <ChrisWere> Azelphur: nevermind you misunderstand. so are you able to help in any way or is your only advice nstall xubuntu?
[19:25] <testi> theadmin: i don't like MATE
[19:25] <ThinkT510> testi: how can you not like mate yet like gnome2?
[19:25] <Azelphur> testi: don't use gnome 2, it's unsupported and we won't support it here, gtfo :p
[19:25] <Etwas> Can someone help me, I am having trouble opening my SD card reader thingyjigger...
[19:25] <theadmin> testi: So you like GNOME2 but don't like MATE when they're the same thing?
[19:25] <testi> ThinkT510: it misses an applet
[19:25] <OerHeks> Azelphur, Mate is not supported here,...
[19:25] <testi> ThinkT510: it misses an applet theadmin Azelphur
[19:25] <theadmin> Ok, troll much. Not helping trolls.
[19:26] <Etwas> Well, I want legitimate help. :)
[19:26] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: I never put too much effort into getting Unity running myself, Xubuntu works really well in multi monitor setups, which as Unity doesn't so much. So for people with >1 monitor I generally recommend Xubuntu or a different DE
[19:26] <Etwas> I was unfortunately born female, and cannot make machines do as I would like them to.
[19:26] <mafiaboy> hi...if i wanna only download a package (for eg : vlc)...and wanna install it later using apt-get ....WHAT should i do?
[19:26] <shihan> etwas: are you getting any errors?
[19:26] <ChrisWere> Azelphur, what abotu lubuntu?
[19:26] <theadmin> Etwas: Hey, that's not a problem, you're not the only girl round here :P So can you give any details?
[19:26] <OerHeks> mafiaboy, use "dpkg -i <package>
[19:26] <compdoc> unfortunately born female? there nothing wrong with that
[19:27] <ChrisWere> Azelphur: or KDE? why is GNOME so bad?
[19:27] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: this is like the fourth time now, Ubuntu 12.04 does not ship with Gnome, it ships with Unity
[19:27] <testi> so no help here again
[19:27] <Etwas> Uhm, well, it usually would pop up on it's own, and it isn't and then I typed some sort of -i lfnubgfi whatever thingy, and I don't think it showed up in there, I don't know.
[19:27] <testi> i already thought that
[19:27] <testi> i already thought that
[19:27] <Etwas> But if I don't see my pictures, I will explode.
[19:27] <ChrisWere> Azelphur: I installed GNOME
[19:27] <xangua> Azelphur: ChrisWere Ubuntu 12.04 comes with gnome desktop 3.4 and unity shell
[19:28] <Azelphur> ChrisWere: I havn't tried KDE4 didn't work on my setup last I checked, and havn't tried LXDE, but it should be promising :)
[19:28] <shihan> etwas: you unplugged it, re-plugged back in?
[19:28] <theadmin> Etwas: Okay, insert your card and then pastebin the output of: "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:28] <Etwas> It's built in, laptop here.
[19:28] <mafiaboy> OerHeks: what i want is apt-get first download a package and later i can install it
[19:28] <guntbert_> !who | Etwas
[19:28] <shihan> um, ok, when you plug it in, can you have a look at "dmesg |tail 50" on the command line?
[19:29] <Etwas> http://pastebin.com/nKrXrqNv
[19:29] <OerHeks> mafiaboy, apt-get install wil install it, use wget to download the package.
[19:29] <Etwas> You guys have to speak to me as if I have no idea what you are saying, okay. :)
[19:29] <torqy> Hey all. For some reason my computer keeps booting to GRUB terminal rather than giving me options to choose my ubuntu installation... any ideas?
[19:30] <OerHeks> see !offline for download and transport to a machine without internet.
[19:30] <Etwas> Also, if you can help me, I am not against being messaged privately... I really want to be able to see these photos.
[19:30] <theadmin> Etwas: Hm, okay, your card isn't being detected
[19:30] <Etwas> Well, what the heck?! :/
[19:30] <theadmin> Etwas: That's what I want to know... You sure you plugged it in before giving me the pastebin?
[19:30] <Etwas> Yes, it's been in this whole time.
[19:30] <Etwas> Is it another driver issue? :/
[19:30]  * Etwas grumbles.
[19:31] <theadmin> Etwas: Try removing it and plugging it back in
[19:31] <theadmin> Etwas: Maybe you just ejected it, idk
[19:31] <sambagirl> it keeps telling me i dont have a swap
[19:31] <ChrisWere> We I'm now going to crack open an install of lubuntu 12.04. Honestly I didn't think this was the only way I could work out my issues here.
[19:31] <Etwas> The same.
[19:31] <torqy> I keep getting the "minimal BASH-like" interface instead of being allowed to choose my partition.
[19:31] <torqy> :-/
[19:31] <jragon> how can I change waht's on the side bar in nautillus?
[19:31] <compdoc> Etwas, those sd cards can go bad. but try it on another PC to be sure
[19:32] <krababbel> mafiaboy: 'aptitude -d' would download only, just beware of ia32-libs with aptitude
[19:32] <karthick87> How to fix this error on ubuntu 12.04 ==> "E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[19:32] <theadmin> krababbel: Don't use aptitutde, apt-get has "-d" too
[19:32] <Etwas> I don't have another PC, I'm on holiday.
[19:32] <mithran>  hai im xsane scanning program in my ubuntu 12.04 now its hanged its not saved yet how to continue scanning with out closing
[19:32] <sambagirl> nevermind i fixed it
[19:32] <krababbel> theadmin: thanks
[19:32] <tz> Is ubuntu server hard to maintain for a newbie sys-admin? Compared to maby, some other flavours?
[19:33] <Robinux> compdoc, it depends how the br0 is connected to the router/internet? well I'm gonna use dhcp on br0.
[19:33] <guntbert_> Etwas: does your camera have an usb port too? the you could connect it that way
[19:33] <Guest40570> ciao
[19:33] <theadmin> tz: Well, Ubuntu Server doesn't come with a graphical interface -- pretty much no server distro does. Long as that's fine with you, you're good
[19:33] <Guest40570> ! list
[19:33] <shihan> tz: there are some newbie-oriented server distro's out there, but ubuntu is probably more complete and up to date
[19:34] <shihan> tz: though it does depend on what you want it for...
[19:34] <Robinux> compdoc, I'm basically gonna use the second example of /etc/network/intefaces file on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[19:34] <tz> shihan: It's for a small business, need it as a mail, file and web-server
[19:35] <shihan> tz: things like webmin/zentyal might make it easier to administrate... its worth trying ubuntu simply for its up-to-dated-ness imho:)
[19:35] <compdoc> Robinux, all that pre-up and post-down stuff? that looks crazy
[19:36] <burnt> hey ffmpeg wont install, did an update to 12.04 now cant play avi's, says when I try to view a video, gstreamer plugin needed, then errors, giving list of dependencies ... please help, here is a paste bin of the erros tia
[19:36] <burnt> http://pastebin.com/rjNGTQp1
[19:36] <Robinux> compdoc, I agree, think I'll use this:  http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-network.2BAC8-interfaces
[19:36] <tz> shihan: cool, we'er currently getting a web site and exchange hosted out of the house, want to bring it all back in to the house to lower costs.. so open source products would be very nice
[19:36] <mithran>  hai im using xsane scanning program in my ubuntu 12.04 now its hanged its not saved yet how to continue scanning with out closing or losing my data?
[19:37] <shihan> tz: just keep in mind, "exchange replacement" can be a little difficult, though not impossible
[19:37] <karthick87> How to fix this error on ubuntu 12.04 ==> "E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[19:37] <torqy> I keep getting the "minimal BASH-like" interface instead of being allowed to choose my partition.
[19:37] <tz> shihan: thats also my biggest concern, since we have a group mail where we need to "mark" the emails people start working on..
[19:38] <burnt> how can I fix unmet dependancies arg
[19:38] <tz> shihan: exchange has this feature, don't know if Imap can do the same
[19:38] <Robinux> !bridge-utils
[19:38] <theadmin> karthick87: Do this: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[19:38] <shihan> karthick87: try "apt-get clean", the "apt-get update" and see
[19:39] <shihan> tz: you can have group shared folders and the like, you might find you need to adopt a different way of doing some stuff in some cases
[19:39] <burnt> if I try to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg via synaptic, it gives me this error
[19:39] <burnt> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg:
[19:39] <burnt>  Depends: libavcodec53 but it is not going to be installed or
[19:39] <burnt>  	libavcodec-extra-53 (<5:0) but 6:0.10.4.0ubuntu0jon2.2 is to be installed
[19:39] <FloodBot1> burnt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <aniket> torqy, i think this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1916698
[19:40] <tz> shihan: okay, fortunatly we'er only 2 people working but sometimes from home or the office.. but all our orders goes to a inbox, where we through exchange, mark them with colors when we start working on them..
[19:41] <tz> shihan: hard to find the same feature in other mail servers i think..
[19:41] <burnt> can anyone help me
[19:41] <burnt> please!
[19:41] <aniket> burnt try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' without quotes.
[19:41] <burnt> tried that
[19:41] <burnt> installs
[19:41] <aniket> oh!
[19:41] <burnt> but still wont play movies with the same error
[19:41]  * burnt cries 
[19:43] <xangua> burnt: are you using a thir party repository¿ did you add a ppa¿
[19:44] <Ascavasaion> jragon: Not sure about Nautilus, but in PCManFM you browse to the folder you want to add to the sidepane, and then add it to bookmarks.  Hope that helps.
[19:44] <n0m4d> is lilu creator a good tool to use
[19:44] <n0m4d> or is there something better
[19:44] <n0m4d> because i keep getting non stop install errors on ubuntu only
[19:45] <shihan> tz: well, you could perhaps use a crm, like sugar to do the same, but thats probably overkill... in your case it might just be easier to have another account on your imap server and have both of you login to the same account... but you could have mail delivery to a shared folder and do the same (i use dovecot in a similar fashion)
[19:45] <theadmin> n0m4d: lili is fine, though if possible I'd use dd (that's a Linux-only thing though, no Windows one. Well, there is a Windows version but it probably won't work)
[19:45] <n0m4d> i using my wifes laptop
[19:45] <theadmin> n0m4d: Alternatives to LiLi are Universal USB Installer and Unetbootin, though
[19:45] <n0m4d> but doesnt matter if its a cd or dvd
[19:45] <shihan> tz: as in have a "personal" account and "sales" inbox
[19:46] <n0m4d> or usb ubuntu will just freez after network selection and it connects i press next and it freezes
[19:46] <n0m4d> ive tried kbuntu just to see if it goes any father and it load and then freezes
[19:46] <tz> shihan: yes that might be the way to go, you got experience with systems like Sogo or Citadel?
[19:47] <n0m4d> ive done a mem test
[19:47] <n0m4d> and a media checke ive redownloaded
[19:47] <n0m4d> fedora installs fine
[19:47] <n0m4d> bu ubuntu just wont lol
[19:47] <guntbert_> !enter | n0m4d
[19:48] <shihan> tz: sadly not :) one other thing too, outlook (as an imap client) doesnt always push changes to an email straight away to the server, so sometimes theres quite a delay between when you might mark one with "important" or something and when it'll appear on someone elses client that way
[19:48] <guntbert_> n0m4d: did you check if the download was ok?
[19:48] <n0m4d> yes sir
[19:48] <n0m4d> i can boot in live
[19:49] <n0m4d> its a sansa cruze usb drive would that be a problem ?
[19:52] <karthick87> I m using gnome shell classic on ubuntu 12.04. However, i notice that tht (ALT + F2 + r) didnt work. How do i get this effect on gnome shell classic? I just want to restart shell without logging out.
[19:54] <n0m4d> i might have gotten kbuntu to work
[19:55] <TheMadDrizzle> I have a few questions about getting grub to work.
[19:55] <n0m4d> never mind it froze
[19:55] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Just ask the questions
[19:55] <savio> hay i will gone crazy if no one help me now
[19:56] <TheMadDrizzle> I have ubuntu and archlinux both installed on the same drive, yet when I just did this most recent ' partial upgrade ' with ubuntu, it's deleted my menu entry for grub
[19:56] <savio> i having problem with nm
[19:56] <savio> help
[19:56] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Hm... Which OS' GRUB are you using?
[19:56] <savio> i'm not able to connect dsl connection my isp provide me
[19:56] <TheMadDrizzle> I purposly installed arch first and then ubuntu to have ubuntu's grub2 auto-detect script run and eliminate any fuss.  now this partial update has overwritten my grub custom?  and how do I manually go back through and update it, because update-grub isn't working.
[19:56] <TheMadDrizzle> Ubuntu
[19:57] <n0m4d> savio get a router
[19:57] <Atlantic777> savio: what kind of connection do you need? pppoe or ethernet  connection to a router?
[19:57] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: If Ubuntu's, running "sudo update-grub" should detect any other operating systems (detects even my Gentoo installs and gives them weird names :/)
[19:57] <savio> pppoe
[19:57] <Atlantic777> then +1, get a router
[19:57] <savio> with service name compulsary
[19:57] <savio> Atlantic777, why so?
[19:57] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Ah, not working... Hm... What configs have you modified?
[19:58] <TheMadDrizzle> I haven't modified anything yet.
[19:58] <n0m4d> because a router will dchp
[19:58] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Ah, thought you said you did... What's a "partial update" anyway?
[19:58] <n0m4d> and it will be ten times easier for you tset it up
[19:58] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin: Sorry, I ment I did the most recent ' partial upgrade ' from ubuntu
[19:58] <savio> its budget problem
[19:58] <SilfenX> Hello! Just installed 12.04 LTS Desktop and the vertical 'launchbar' to the left of the screen doesnt display any icons but display texthints when hoovering. Whats gone wrong?
[19:59] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: (I'm a Gentoo person and the only way I understand "update" is "update all the packages" so I have no idea the heck that means)
[19:59] <n0m4d> bufflo h some low cost routers
[19:59] <OerHeks> savio, were yiu here yesterday, with the mac adress issue ?
[19:59] <OerHeks> -i
[19:59] <n0m4d> and they come with dd-wrt pre programed
[19:59] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin: It was explained to me as a partial kernel upgrade, not a package upgrade
[19:59] <savio> can anyone seriously gona help me
[19:59] <savio> nops
[19:59] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: That sounds... weird...
[20:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[20:00] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Can you just upgrade everything to make sure we're on the same wavelength? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:00] <savio> there is no option to set service name
[20:01] <LCID_Fire> Ubuntu 12.10 just ruined my install. Grub is completely empty. Is there a way to see why it isn't generating any grub entries?
[20:01] <burnt> how do I fix this when I try to install gstreamer ??? gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg : Depends: libavcodec53 (< 5:0) but it is not going to be installed or libavcodec-extra-53 (< 5:0) but 6:0.10.4.0ubuntu0jon2.2 is to be installed  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:01] <theadmin> savio: Run "sudo pppoeconf" to configure a PPPOE connection.
[20:01] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin - totally updated, no actions performed durring updates, nothing deleted
[20:01] <burnt> ran apt-get update / upgrade
[20:01] <savio> pppoeconf don't provide servicename option
[20:01] <aniket> burnt see if this helps http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric.html
[20:01] <savio> otherwise it says login incorrect
[20:02] <burnt> thanks aniket
[20:02] <OerHeks> savio, servicename = networkname ?
[20:02] <Atlantic777> .-š
[20:03] <aniket> burnt, update. upgrading upgrades your ubuntu to new version.
[20:03] <TheMadDrizzle> When i update-grub, it says that I've got two sets of linux and two sets of initrd, and the memtest
[20:03] <theadmin> savio: Um, when you configure a DSL connectio in NetworkManager there is "Service"...: http://i.imgur.com/7LytX.png
[20:03] <savio> to enable the internet i need to changed conf file then need to restart the nm service then again need to chaned conf file then need to restart service as well as restart the system
[20:04] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin: It doesn't say anything about having archlinux installed
[20:04] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: That kinda... meh. Sorry, not sure about anything... I'm not familiar with GRUB2 since it autoconfigs too much and that confuses me
[20:05] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin:  Thanks alot for the help anyways.  I'll just putz arround with it for a while until I can get it to work.
[20:06] <savio> otherwise nm sometimes don't recognise any network device sometimes it don't recognise ethernet card it just acting like wired one
[20:06] <thomasross> Hi\
[20:06] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Sure. Um, you sure your Arch has a kernel? Cause if not that may be a problem. Sounds silly but just making sure
[20:06] <thomasross> How much ram does Ubuntu 1004 require to install?
[20:06] <savio> when i do above procedure it connect to internet properly
[20:07] <savio> and service name means it assign my isp
[20:07] <fasd> Hi! Whenever I boot into ubuntu 12.04 it gives me this: The disk drive for /boot is not ready yet or not present
[20:07] <fasd> And then it gives me the option to manually repair or S to skip..
[20:08] <savio> access concentrator
[20:08] <savio> like that
[20:08] <fasd> So I press S and then it just goes to my desktop no problem.
[20:08] <savio> anyone
[20:08] <thomasross> How much ram does Ubuntu 12.04.1 require to install?
[20:08] <karthick87> I m using gnome shell classic on ubuntu 12.04. However, i notice that tht (ALT + F2 + r) didnt work. How do i get this effect on gnome shell classic? I just want to restart shell without logging out.
[20:08] <theadmin> fasd: Does your /etc/fstab have a /boot entry? If so you probably want to remove it since it appears you don't have a separate boot partition.
[20:09] <theadmin> thomasross: Both *require* 512M, but you probably want more for it to work smoothly
[20:09] <thomasross> Okay.
[20:09] <savio> please help me i'm going crazy here
[20:09] <thomasross> What do you reccomend?
[20:09] <theadmin> thomasross: What do you mean?
[20:09] <thomasross> How much ram do you recommend?
[20:09] <thor__> hi
[20:10] <theadmin> thomasross: Hm, I'd say 1G would do just fine.
[20:10] <thomasross> Okay i've got around 745 MB
[20:10] <thomasross> Would that be enough?
[20:10] <theadmin> thomasross: That'd work, yeah, might run into problems with some apps though (Firefox, GIMP...)
[20:10] <thomasross> Okay
[20:10] <thomasross> When i try to install it, I get an error though
[20:10] <thomasross> It says
[20:11] <thomasross> IBM detected, refusing to download module
[20:11] <thomasross> It is an IBM machine
[20:11] <theadmin> thomasross: Xubuntu or Lubuntu will work with less RAM than the regular Ubuntu, by the way. And uh... I have no idea the heck that error can be
[20:11] <burnt> aniket : after all that, still no go
[20:11] <fasd> theadmin: Here's my fstab: http://www.pasteall.org/35288
[20:11] <thomasross> Okay, I'll go with Xubuntu then, Thanks.
[20:11] <burnt> this sort of thing that makes me want to re-install ubutu or at worst go back to windows :?
[20:11] <burnt> :( even
[20:11] <thor__> guys i have a bis problem with ffmpeg the terminal send me this:   THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[20:11] <thor__> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[20:11] <aniket> burnt, even after update?
[20:12] <thor__> what can i do?
[20:12] <daddy> is there someone here who has experience with VNC and ubuntu?
[20:12] <theadmin> fasd: Put a "#" on the beginning of the last line, save it and reboot, see if it works
[20:12] <burnt> yeah
[20:12] <fasd> Thanks.. will try theadmin
[20:12] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin: Well I had arch up and running before I installed ubuntu, so I'd better have a kernel avaliable for arch.
[20:12] <compdoc> daddy, I use vnc4server. Its not for desktop sharing, tho
[20:12] <theadmin> fasd: If not, boot from a livecd, find that file and remove the #
[20:13] <xibalba> how can i tell if the box i'm logged into is a server or desktop install?
[20:13] <TheMadDrizzle> theadmin:  Is there anyway I can manually check?  ( sorry had to get my son from a nap )
[20:13] <black_joe> daddy: Yes. You need to install and run a package called "x11vnc". Then you can connect to it via remmina or some other client.
[20:13] <thor__> THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[20:13] <daddy> I have a remote box I need to make stop refusing my connection, I think its the router but Im not sure.
[20:13] <burnt> aniket :) yep, this is doing my head in hehe
[20:13] <fasd> theadmin: Just the line that says "defaults"?
[20:13] <compdoc> daddy, you have to forward the right port on the remote router
[20:13] <savio> no one is answering
[20:14] <savio> someone
[20:14] <daddy> cc it worked before, after a rebot of the macine it refuses the connection
[20:14] <theadmin> TheMadDrizzle: Well, find your arch's boot directory and search for the kernel, it normally has a name like "vmlinuz-linux" in Arch
[20:14] <theadmin> fasd: Uh, no, your last line in the paste starts with UUID=... and has a /boot in there
[20:14] <thor__> savio what do you nned?
[20:14] <daddy> compudoc I mean
[20:14] <aniket> burnt, lol! can you paste a screen shot of the error.
[20:15] <fasd> theadmin: Right.
[20:15] <theadmin> fasd: So that's the one I mean
[20:15] <aniket> or whatever result
[20:15] <thor__> guys I need some help whit this warning:  THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[20:15] <fasd> theadmin: Right. So, should I comment out both or just the one?
[20:15] <savio> thor__ i having problem with nm
[20:16] <compdoc> daddy, what vnc is running there?
[20:16] <zykotick9> thor__: that's just a "warning" not an error really.  install avconv if you wish.
[20:16] <burnt> yeah its on my paste bin
[20:16] <daddy> tight
[20:16] <savio> to enable the internet i need to changed conf file then need to restart the nm service then again need to chaned conf file then need to restart service as well as restart the system
[20:16] <burnt> http://pastebin.com/rjNGTQp1
[20:16] <compdoc> savio, it works sometimes, and sometimes not?
[20:16] <black_joe> thor__: It just means it is outdated software and should not be used.
[20:16] <savio> otherwise nm sometimes don't recognise any network device sometimes it don't recognise ethernet card it just acting like wired one
[20:16] <burnt> same error
[20:16] <daddy> compudoc tightvnc
[20:17] <savio> compdoc, to able to work i need to perform above steps
[20:17] <theadmin> fasd: Uhm, I confused, you don't have a line that says just "defaults" (is your editor splitting one line in several to save horizontal space?)
[20:17] <thor__> zykotic9 i can convert the .flv format eaven using mencoder or avidemux, some suggestion?
[20:17] <fasd> theadmin: That must be it..
[20:18] <fasd> theadmin: but it is fixed now!
[20:18] <zykotick9> !tab | thor__
[20:18] <fasd> theadmin: Thanks a ton.
[20:18] <zykotick9> thor__: using ffmpeg is fine as well...
[20:18] <theadmin> fasd: Good
[20:18] <daddy> tab doesn't work here but I think its because of my retarded keyboard :/ lol
[20:18] <thor__> zykotick, thanks
[20:18] <aniket> burnt, hey it clearly states that 6:0.10.4.0ubuntu0jon2.2 needs to installed for some dependencies. i think you might have tried installing it suing apt-get, did you?
[20:18] <zykotick9> !tab > thor__
[20:19] <aniket> burnt, *using
[20:19] <daddy> compdoc neverm, anyway should I be able to SSH into the box easier than using VNC>
[20:19] <savio> any solution
[20:20] <burnt> I tried to when it gave me that error
[20:20] <black_joe> daddy: It is pretty easy. And you can use ssh -X -l username IPADDRESS to pipe graphical programs over ssh.
[20:20] <aniket> alright. do a reboot and try again. i suggest!
[20:20] <ns-nazri> hi
[20:20] <burnt> ok
[20:20] <andreb> hi all
[20:20] <thor__> savio did  you try to use the privative drivers ?
[20:20] <compdoc> daddy, when I have tried installing tightvnc on ubuntu, it doesnt work as well as vnc4server. I once tried installing tightvnc on a centos 6.3 box, and it installed and ran wonderfully. It even includes vncconfig for clipboard transfer. So whoever created the ubuntu packages of tightvnc seems to only have created a bare minimal install. It might not even be set to auto run.
[20:20] <burnt> bb in 30 seconds :) ssd ftw
[20:20] <andreb> can anyone help me with bind ?? cant seem to configure it right
[20:21] <daddy> problem is Im using a windoze machine to SSH into the Ubuntu box
[20:21] <savio> nope
[20:21] <savio> what are they
[20:21] <andreb> i amusing this guide here toi setup teh split dns
[20:21] <andreb> http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Ubuntu_8.04_LTS_Server_(Hardy_Heron)_Install_Guide
[20:21] <daddy> compdoc should I build from source then>
[20:21] <Floorduck> My laptop's battery life is really bad on ubuntu... it's only about 2 hours, basic use
[20:21] <andreb> and i get this erro "DNS ERROR resolving MX for zimbra.chapmans.co.tt"
[20:21] <compdoc> daddy, vnc should be as easy as ssh when its working. If you installed openssh-server, it should be running
[20:21] <ns-nazri> maybe your battery is bad
[20:22] <guntbert_> daddy: whats the problem with ssh?
[20:22] <compdoc> daddy, never build from source if it exists in the repos. Try vnc4server - its more complete
[20:22] <Floorduck> My laptop is brand new, though...
[20:23] <thor__> savio try this:  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common & ndisgtk
[20:23] <savio> for ethernet
[20:23] <compdoc> savio, do you have more than one network card? like a wired and a wireless?
[20:23] <savio> i'm using r8169
[20:23] <ns-nazri> floorduck: try something new software linux
[20:24] <savio> compdoc, nope
[20:24] <savio> one wireless and one wired
[20:24] <Floorduck> ns-nazri: whats that?
[20:24] <Floorduck> I don't understand what you're saying...
[20:24] <ns-nazri> are u new laptop
[20:24] <compdoc> savio, can you pastebin the changes you have to make?
[20:24] <burnt> aniket, still the same :'''(
[20:25] <savio> i just changed ifdown to true in NetworkManager.conf
[20:26] <l0ll0lll> hi all. Are there any kde>=4.5 packages for ubuntu 10.04 LTS? It seems ubuntu-backports no longer provides them...
[20:27] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: Not official ones anyway. Ubuntu's kinda like Windows, if you want the latest and greatest you should use a latest release -- you can easily upgrade between LTS releases so I suggest getting 12.04
[20:27] <karthick87> I m using gnome shell classic on ubuntu 12.04. However, i notice that tht (ALT + F2 + r) didnt work. How do i get this effect on gnome shell classic? I just want to restart shell without logging out.
[20:29] <andreb> can anyone look at these and tell me where i have gone wrong
[20:29] <andreb> http://pastebin.com/4u2MrKF0 http://pastebin.com/HtnAuDBH http://pastebin.com/Y4dV20Uw
[20:29] <aniket> burnt, did you try any post installation guide. cause they solutions for most of the problems.
[20:29] <julia145> hello
[20:29] <aniket> burnt, check this out if it helps http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/330-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin-post-installation-guide
[20:29] <wiickeed> How can i free a port i seem to have something runing on port 69 thats soposed to be reserved for tftp
[20:30] <wiickeed> how can i kick of any program on socket 69
[20:30] <Dr_willis> Id bet its your tftp server.. ;)
[20:30] <l0ll0lll> theadmin: ok, thanks
[20:30] <Floorduck> Is 5400rpm significantly worse than 7200rpm for a harddrive?
[20:31] <l0ll0lll> seems will have to compile it myself
[20:31] <theadmin> karthick87: Try "killall gnome-panel" (you can assign that to a keyboard shortcut if you want), it will restart the gnome panel (there's no "classic shell", by the way, only the gnome-panel)
[20:31] <wiickeed> Dr_willis: possible it's a script i ran before but no way of closing it cant find it under programs
[20:32] <jerry_l1> i would not say significantly.
[20:32] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: ...If you're ready to compile KDE might as well go with Gentoo [/offtopic]
[20:32] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: Try googling "KDE ppa lucid"
[20:32] <wiickeed> Dr_willis: im looking for a way to kick it off the port via terminal if possible
[20:32] <savio> anybody knows how to setup service name in pppoe connection
[20:32] <Floorduck> I ask only because I've found an alternative, cheaper laptop of the same brand
[20:32] <Dr_willis> wiickeed,  use ps or top or htop to find the process and kill it.
[20:32] <l0ll0lll> theadmin: i have googled, but the ppa is no longer useful for lucid
[20:32] <jerry_l1> you ave to try the hard drive and see if it is acceptable.
[20:32] <julia145> anybidy help
[20:32] <Floorduck> which has a 7200rpm drive instead of a 5400rpm one (which I have now)
[20:33] <l0ll0lll> theadmin: and as for Gentoo, it's overkill, especially for netbook
[20:33] <Dr_willis> Floorduck,  the rest is identical?
[20:33] <aniket> savio, try nm-connection-editor
[20:33] <julia145> with usb modem on ubuntu
[20:33] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: Heh, okay then, makes sense
[20:33] <Floorduck> Uh, more or less. let me double check
[20:33] <jerry_l1> the laptop is a different senario because of smaller platers.
[20:33] <julia145> i got some errors
[20:34] <wiickeed> Dr_willis: gives me nothing same as task manager
[20:34] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: This appears to provide 4.7 on Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~euroford/+archive/kde
[20:34] <jerry_l1> i have a 5400rpm 160GB sata WD hard drive for my laptop and it is fine running XP and puppy linux
[20:34] <Dr_willis> Floorduck,  one thing to consider.. the hard drive is going to be aboyut the easiest thing to replace/upgrade
[20:34] <Dr_willis> wiickeed,  task manager? Try ps ax and look for what might be using the port.
[20:35] <jerry_l1> although i dont use the laptop for media editing.....
[20:35] <julia145> and this is it
[20:35] <julia145> photoes
[20:35] <Dr_willis> http://serverfault.com/questions/14429/how-do-i-find-out-whether-a-port-is-available-on-ubuntu-8-04
[20:35] <l0ll0lll> theadmin: wow, looks promising, will try, thanks
[20:35] <Dr_willis> lsof -i :<port number>
[20:36] <wiickeed> Dr_willis: heh same thing nothing on 69 : /
[20:36] <Floorduck> These are the two laptops: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152354CVF http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152319
[20:36] <julia145> http://10.69.105.149:8080/errors
[20:36] <Floorduck> The latter is less expensive, has 6gb of ram instead of 4, and has a 7200rpm drive :l
[20:36] <julia145> this it
[20:36] <julia145> http://10.69.105.149:8080/errors
[20:37] <Dr_willis> Floorduck,  hd is easier to upgrade then ram . ram is fairly easy. but  if you got 6gb you most likely wont ever upgrade it.
[20:37] <theadmin> l0ll0lll: However, you use PPAs at your own risk. Neither me nor the Ubuntu team are responsible for any breakage they make cause.
[20:37] <theadmin> s/make/may/
[20:37] <Dr_willis> Floorduck,  BEST boost for a system i find is putting in a SSD.
[20:37] <l0ll0lll> theadmin: yeah, i understand this
[20:38] <jerry_l1> reviewing laptops.....
[20:38] <Floorduck> Someone told me that getting "uneven" ram was bad
[20:38] <Floorduck> and that therefore 4gb would be better than 6...
[20:38] <burnt> nothing works aniket :)
[20:38] <burnt> thinking of a full wipe
[20:38] <theadmin> Floorduck: That makes... no sense whatsoever
[20:38] <julia145> http://10.69.105.149:8080/errors
[20:38] <wiickeed> is there a more direct approach / command i could call to free a port like free 69 : )
[20:38] <julia145> please help
[20:39] <theadmin> julia145: Be patient. People here are volunteers, thus not everybody knows everything.
[20:39] <harshn> remastersys fails on Ubntu 12.04, Live user is not created... any workaround so far??
[20:40] <l0ll0lll> julia145: your link is broken
[20:40] <mg_> I have a MacBook Pro 5,5 with ubuntu 12.04 and the mini-display port doesn't work at all. nvidia-config shows only one screen, so does xrandr. I've tried downgrading to 290.10 but no luck. Any tips?
[20:40] <jerry_l1> well i gues the main diff would be the wone that costs more is prettier.
[20:40] <navap_> julia145: That's a private IP, only you can see anything at that IP
[20:41] <jerry_l1> 6gigs is cheaper that 4gigs and the 7200 is cheaper than te 5200... sounds more like the price diff is for the packaging.
[20:43] <harshn> Remastersys fails on Ubntu 12.04, Live user is not created... any workaround so far??
[20:43] <black_13> what is name of installer application
[20:43] <theadmin> black_13: Ubiquity
[20:43] <black_13> in ubuntu 12?
[20:43] <Dr_willis> harshn,  checked askubuntu.com yet? I recall seeing some info about it there.
[20:43] <black_13> unity or uquity or something else
[20:43] <theadmin> black_13: If you mean the one that installs the Live system to a hard drive, Ubiquity.
[20:44] <black_13> theadmin: when Ubiquity is started where does it read the preseed file from?
[20:44] <black_13> or how does it find the pressed file it does use this file?
[20:46] <harshn> Dr_wills..Apart from that.. Yes I tried looking into remastersys forum as well.. many people have faced this problem...No unique cause is known... there may be various reasons... I have tried everything...No luck so far
[20:46] <theadmin> black_13: You can see here for info on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/appendix-preseed.html
[20:47] <Robinux> has network manager stabilized with 12.04 yet/
[20:47] <Robinux> ?
[20:47] <mikk0> where can i get a list of what drivers are in the 12.04LTS install cd's kernel?
[20:47] <Dr_willis> Robinux,  cant say ive seen very many people in here with issues with it...
[20:47] <black_13> theadmin: i have read tht document and unfortunately its not clear on where the preseed file is located when you specify hd-media
[20:47] <Con> Hi. When I do do a 'apt-get update' I get a key error for a non-Ubuntu repository: http://pastebin.com/i2RT26DC . 'apt-key list' doesn't show any expired keys. How can I get more information out of apt?
[20:48] <Robinux> Dr_willis, when I first upgraded to 12.04 before the summer it gave me HeLL!
[20:48] <Robinux> hehe ... but I'm guessing everything should be ok now :)
[20:48] <Robinux> I'm gonna remove wicd and install it back cuz I need to NAT.
[20:48] <theadmin> black_13: Hm... Maybe you can find info on that in "man ubiquity" or such? (I don't have ubiquity so don't have the manpage)
[20:48] <nobcake> cantide it gae us all "Hell"
[20:49] <k1l_> Con: contact the admin from the repo
[20:49] <black_13> theadmin: source for ubiquity should be available some place shouldn't it?
[20:50] <theadmin> black_13: Source-code for any of the opensource Ubuntu packages is in the repos, "apt-get source packagename"
[20:50] <Con> k1l_: The repository isn't the problem. Others can update fine to it. I simply want to debug my situation, but I can't seem to get more information out of apt.
[20:50] <theadmin> black_13: You need to have source repos enabled though
[20:51] <d00durk00l> I am running a sftp server .. How can I monitor what he is doing from my admin account?
[20:51] <d00durk00l> he is transfering a file how can I check what the status is on that?
[20:53] <black_13> theadmin: thanks
[20:53] <d00durk00l> also the "w" and "who" commands don't show him as a logged in user
[20:53] <himanshu_> hi
[20:53] <d00durk00l> but I know he is
[20:53] <himanshu_> who
[20:54] <d00durk00l> Any help would be useful guys :)
[20:54] <himanshu_> how can i work my yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[20:54] <himanshu_> ?
[20:54] <Dr_willis> !im | himanshu_
[20:54] <d00durk00l> pidgeon
[20:54] <Dr_willis> actually Pidgin is the default  these days? or am i backwards
[20:55] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Pidgin is in Xubuntu methinks
[20:55] <d00durk00l> xubuntu?
[20:55] <Dr_willis> Dident that one web site that did several differnt IM protocalls get sold out/closed? Meebo? Mebo?
[20:55] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Kopete in Kubuntu, and I haven't used the plain Ubuntu
[20:55] <Dr_willis> I dont really use any of them. :)
[20:55] <ougogo> Hi, when I right click on my network icon I have the "Enable Network" is grayed out. In addition, when I want to add an ethernet connection or wi-fi, I can not learn any fields, everything is grayed out ... what to do?
[20:55] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Meebo was closed, I switched to imo.im from that
[20:56] <d00durk00l> ougogo: Means the internet is down :S
[20:56] <theadmin> ougogo: Uh... "service network-manager status", please.
[20:56] <d00durk00l> ougogo: Means the earth is coming to a end
[20:56] <drupin> how can i remove a non working icon from the left top start menu
[20:56] <d00durk00l> theadmin:
[20:57] <d00durk00l> Dude you have no suggestions for me?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> drupin,  using what desktop?
[20:58] <drupin> XFCE Dr_willis
[20:58] <d00durk00l> theadmin: No suggestions?
[20:58] <theadmin> d00durk00l: If I had any I'd tell.
[20:58] <d00durk00l> theadmin: Dude I'm very disapointed
[20:58] <d00durk00l> :P
[20:58] <black_13> i started the installer on a vmware vm and looked aht the processes using one of the alternate consoles
[20:59] <annaStar> hi! i have mounted an iso file from a windows game and i want to run it in wine, but i don't know where the iso is mounted! any help, guys>
[20:59] <annaStar> ?
[20:59] <nibbler_> annaStar, how did you mount it?
[20:59] <theadmin> annaStar: Can you browse to that location in the filemanager? After that, hit Ctrl-L aaand you'll get the location
[20:59] <nibbler_> annaStar, besides this, the output of "mount" in the console would tell you
[21:00] <black_joe> annaStar: Probably in /media or /run/media/username/
[21:00] <nibbler_> ~/.gvfs/* ?
[21:00] <annaStar> nibbler_: just double clicked on it.... and i can see the mounted file under "network"
[21:00] <d00durk00l> ?
[21:00] <d00durk00l> lol
[21:01] <d00durk00l> nibbler_: Now if you had of mounted it via cli would know exactly where it was mounted
[21:01] <annaStar> i mean... I can see it in the window manager under "network"
[21:01] <d00durk00l> is it shared?
[21:02] <annaStar> How can I mount it in command line?
[21:02] <nibbler_> annaStar, execute "mount | grep -i iso" in a command shell (ctrl-alt-T) and you will see
[21:02] <nibbler_> annaStar, sudo mount -oloop -tiso 9660 /patch/to/file.iso /mnt (to mount it to /mnt)
[21:02] <black_13> lord nibbler
[21:02] <theadmin> annaStar: To mount an ISO file in a commandline, do: mkdir iso ; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/your/file.iso iso
[21:03] <theadmin> nibbler_: You've got some mess with spaces there
[21:03] <nibbler_> oops ;-) -tiso9660 that should be ;-)
[21:05] <d00durk00l> damnit come on peeps I need HELP!
[21:05] <d00durk00l> feedback here
[21:05] <deitrick> with what?
[21:06] <d00durk00l> I am running a sftp.... He is connected and downloading a file.. How do I check on the progress from my side?
[21:06] <d00durk00l> when I do a "w" or "who" he doesn't even show..
[21:07] <deitrick> sorry no idea. why do you need to know?
[21:07] <zykotick9> d00durk00l: from terminal see if this shows anything?  ps aux | grep ssh
[21:08] <d00durk00l> yeah it shows he is connected
[21:08] <d00durk00l> but wondering why it isn't showing up in the w or who.. Shouldn't it?
[21:08] <d00durk00l> also I can't monitor how his download is going
[21:08] <d00durk00l> there has to be a way I can do that
[21:08] <zykotick9> !iso
[21:08] <nibbler_> d00durk00l, iptraf, tcpdump.....
[21:08] <theadmin> d00durk00l: Not unless the user is actually logged in, as for "who" (and logged in means got through the login program and is running a login shell...)
[21:09] <d00durk00l> kk thx admin
[21:09] <nibbler_> d00durk00l, but those won't provide a percentage bar etc. but you could check on the download speed etc
[21:09] <d00durk00l> nibbler_: Hmmm they are just sniffers correct?
[21:10] <nibbler_> d00durk00l, correct. but they tell you bandwith usage and stuff... ntop should be mentioned along that, too
[21:10] <nibbler_> d00durk00l, don't know what your problem is, but i assume you need to find a solution like these...
[21:11] <blahdyblahblah> test
[21:11] <d00durk00l> nibbler_: Its not really a problem just would like to have more control on monitoring him on my system
[21:11] <d00durk00l> :P
[21:11] <blahdyblahblah> can anyone hear me?
[21:11] <nibbler_> blahdyblahblah, i can read you
[21:11] <d00durk00l> I chrooted the directory but still don't like the idea of someome on the machine without seeing what he is doing :P
[21:11] <blahdyblahblah> nibbler_: Thanks
[21:11] <_alecst> yep
[21:12] <nibbler_> d00durk00l, ah - paranoia - lsof etc might be helpfull - also some logging shell if they have ssh access and for the ftp server some logfiles/loglevel tuning?
[21:13] <TJ-> d00durk00l: Get the ssh process id, and then do "sudo cat /proc/$PID/net/netstat"
[21:13] <d00durk00l> nibbler_: Thx
[21:13] <d00durk00l> TJ THX
[21:14] <nibbler_> TJ-: thats a nice one.... i'll try to remember ;)
[21:15] <kicker86> hello people. just made the switch to ubuntu :) owing to my project about semantic filesystem.
[21:15] <TJ-> nibbler_: Well, anytime you know a related PID, you can just look at the wealth of info in /proc/$PID/
[21:15] <kicker86> I needed help about how to store the installed packages so that in the event of reinstall, I can have the same versions of everything
[21:15] <kicker86> like gcc, libs and all...
[21:15] <kicker86> any help would be much appreciated :)
[21:16] <jrib> kicker86: your packages should be frome the official repositories, all you really need are their names
[21:16] <jrib> !clone | kicker86
[21:16] <black_joe> kicker86: You can use a package called apton-cd to make a backup .iso file. Or you can generate a markings list in synaptic to re-download the packages again.
[21:16] <nibbler_> TJ-, that part i knew... mainly used for cmdline... but the per-process net statistics are nice. there should be cli tools also to display bandwidth etc there...
[21:16] <zykotick9> jrib: i don't think !clone should be used anymore.
[21:16] <TJ-> nibbler_: Where do you think lsof gets its stuff from? :p
[21:17] <jrib> zykotick9: sad :/
[21:17] <kicker86> no, I meant backup/copy them to a seperate location and install it again. I already tried copying my packages, but the depencies craze me out.
[21:17] <blahdyblahblah> kicker86: Just backup the drive with rsync. As long as you preserve the permissions you should be fine
[21:18] <kicker86> drive? as in the entire drive? :P no man! I just need the packages
[21:18] <nibbler_> TJ-, and top, ifconfig, ip.... but there is also /proc/net/... and other stuff that might hold the summaries for networking, a per-pid statistics with the extra infos of multicasts etc etc... thats what i like about this "file"
[21:18] <zykotick9> kicker86: /var/cache/apt/archives/ stores downloaded packages
[21:18] <TJ-> kicker86: If you need that, install to an LVM volume then take a snapshot before you do anything... in the event you need to go back, just use the snapshot
[21:18] <kicker86> ubottu: okay... could you please just let me know what that exactly does???
[21:18] <jrib> kicker86: if you're using multi-arch, aptitude won't play nice.  You can use dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections instead
[21:18] <TJ-> nibbler_: I agree... /proc/... is great especially if the system is misbehaving ... all you need is "ls" and "cat" :)
[21:19] <jrib> kicker86: it just records a list of what packages you have installed so you can install them again easily (it's just a text file)
[21:19] <zykotick9> jrib: dpkg in debian just got multi-arch support, are you certain ubuntu's has it?  (you could be right!)
[21:19] <kicker86> jrib: multi-arch? I hope you mean x86-x64 thing right?
[21:19] <kicker86> ubottu: no problems, as long as you help ;)
[21:19] <jrib> kicker86: multi-arch lets you install i386 packages on an amd64 system for example
[21:19] <TJ-> kicker86: Do you want just the list of packages, or the packages and the *exact* versions ?
[21:20] <kicker86> TJ: exact versions. I'm aware of how synaptic can generate list of pacakges, so that I can again download them on another machine.
[21:20] <jrib> zykotick9: no, I just wasn't aware that dpkg did not support it
[21:21] <kicker86> the thing is: I am doing a project, and I need to retain a certain version number across the entire project. So, the same packages need to be installed eg some tools and libs. I tried copying the packages out of the directory storage and using dpkg but then they have dependencies
[21:22] <d00durk00l> ssh-agent 1423      sysop  cwd   unknown                              /proc/1423/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[21:22] <d00durk00l> ssh-agent 1423      sysop  rtd   unknown                              /proc/1423/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[21:22] <d00durk00l> ssh-agent 1423      sysop  txt   unknown                              /proc/1423/exe (readlink: Permission denied)
[21:22] <d00durk00l> ssh-agent 1423      sysop NOFD                                        /proc/1423/fd (opendir: Permission denied)
[21:22] <d00durk00l> sshd      2791       root  cwd   unknown                              /proc/2791/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[21:22] <FloodBot1> d00durk00l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <d00durk00l> sshd      2791       root  rtd   unknown                              /proc/2791/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[21:22] <kicker86> btw, dpkg does have multi-arch support.
[21:22] <zykotick9> jrib: i don't know the specifics, but there are other issues using dpkg to generate/regenerate package listings.  the OPs shot down my suggestion of using dpkg as an alternative to aptitude quickly, to try and fix !clone.
[21:23] <hex20dec> Hey people, question, I have a machine running ubuntu. And I want to upgrade, do I have to reinstall the OS? Or can I just transfer the hard drive?
[21:23] <jrib> kicker86: imo it's not worth it to do that since in a given release of ubuntu the versions aren't going to significantly change.  If you insist on doing it though, both the apt-on-cd suggestion or lvm snapshot suggestion should work
[21:23] <kicker86> hex20dec: transfer as in what? what are you upgrading?
[21:24] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[21:24] <TJ-> jrib: zykotick9 I've been using dpkg with multi-arch successfully ... I wonder what the 'problems' are?
[21:24] <Dr_willis> hex20dec,  you mean upgrade to the next release?
[21:24] <hex20dec> kicker86: Completely new machine. I'm just wondering if it's like on windows that it's a must to reinstall because of the drivers.
[21:24] <kicker86> jrib: sorry, I did not get your point. Mine was that I install some additional tools and libs not available in the OS, which I need to install again after a reinstall.
[21:25] <hex20dec> Taking the hdd from one computer to another.
[21:25] <Dr_willis> hex20dec,   move the HD over and see.. this is a desktop or laptop?
[21:25] <zykotick9> hex20dec: fyi, propritary video cards / wireless driver "could" be an issue changing h/w (but mostly it should work and/or be fixable ;)
[21:25] <kicker86> hex20dec: no, if you are just transfering the HDD, it must me fine. Unless the configs are waay to crazy different.
[21:25] <Dr_willis> hex20dec,  ive moved HDs to differnt machines befor with very few issues.. like from an old old nvidia card to a new one.. had to install differnt nvidia drivers.
[21:26] <kicker86> hex20dec: rightly :) experiment and let us know too! :) btw, right on that graphics driver thing. but you can fix that up easily...
[21:26] <jrib> kicker86: my suggestion is to just have a text file that tells you what packages you have installed.  Saving all the debs seems like overkill imo because of ubuntu's update policy on releases.  This doesn't do what you asked but I'm merely pointing out to you that it's unnecessary work in my opinion
[21:26] <unless__> LordG33k, I am having huge issues in to forward ports of my router.
[21:26] <unless__> ups, sorry.
[21:27] <hex20dec> Alright, good to know linux works differently. Thanks guys.
[21:27] <kicker86> jrib: yeah, I realised that it is the elegant solution! btw, does it also automatically add the dependencies to list?
[21:27] <zykotick9> jrib: apt-cacher ftw in downloading updates and sharing for a local network/VMs
[21:27] <kicker86> you guys must have heard of keryx right? the package downloader thing? works?
[21:27] <zykotick9> jrib: i like you text file idea - i only wish there was a "good" way to do it ;)
[21:28] <jrib> kicker86: run "dpkg --get-selections" now, you'll see what it does (it just records the state of packages you've installed at some point)
[21:28] <kicker86> jrib: exactly :P which includes galaga and dope wars which I dont want :P :D
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> !info keryx
[21:29] <kicker86> rightly pointed out: keryx needs to be downloaded and requires python, which again, is not instaled in precise.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> kicker86: is it for installing debs?
[21:29] <jrib> zykotick9: kind of curious about the issues with dpkg; do you remember who mentioned there might be some?  In any case, if we can't verify dpkg is safe to use, I'll ammend the factoid to at least include a warning
[21:29] <kicker86> which brings me to another point, ubuntu is becoming such a generic distribution. Any alternatives for programmers? specifically?
[21:29] <kicker86> ActionParsnip: yes, I suppose...
[21:30] <Floorduck> I'm wondering if linux is slow because its slow or because its on a 5400 rpm harddrive that im not used to...
[21:30] <kicker86> ActionParsnip: the site is http://keryxproject.org/
[21:30] <TJ-> kicker86: keryx is rather like simply doing "apt-get --download-only"
[21:30] <Floorduck> is there any diagnostic software which could take hardware into consideration and assess my computers performance?
[21:30] <zykotick9> jrib: i don't remember who/specifics sorry.  but it was several people confirming dpkg wasn't really a good "drop-in" replacement for the !clone factiod.  it was in #ubuntu-irc (or whatever) a couple months ago.
[21:30] <kicker86> TJ: what about the support thing? like offline installations and all?
[21:31] <kicker86> TJ: I download packages in it and I can always "offline" install it later right
[21:31] <kicker86> Floorduck: yes there are.
[21:31] <TJ-> kicker86: That's what "dpkg" is for ... "dpkg -i <list of .debs>" or "dpkg -di <directory of debs>"
[21:31] <drupin> issue with java
[21:31] <drupin> i got bad PPA loaded
[21:31] <TJ-> kicker86: apt stores all the packages it has downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:32] <zykotick9> jrib: but aptitude is closing in on "dangerous" to use.
[21:32] <drupin> barely now managed to remove it
[21:32] <wolter> How can I have a wired and a wireless connection at the same time?
[21:32] <kicker86> TJ: dpkg installs downloaded deb. But it does not manage dependencies.
[21:32] <kicker86> TJ: am aware of the apt archive.
[21:32] <wolter> It seems that enabling a wired connection kills my wireless connection (in the sense that I can no longer connect to the internet, but the connection remains active)
[21:33] <drupin> now two non working java console and visualVM icons are sitting inside the settings menu.. how i remove them
[21:35] <sambagirl> i am tryhing to install novo-builder do i have to modify the repos?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> menus get defined by the various .desktop files, find where those are comming from, remove/move the .desktop file and restart the desktop to regfenerate the menus
[21:35] <TJ-> wolter: Sounds as if the wired connection is being allowed to take-over the default route
[21:35] <sambagirl> i type sudo apt-et install novo-builder novo-preset-latest
[21:35] <sambagirl> i type sudo apt-get install novo-builder novo-preset-latest
[21:35] <wolter> TJ-, how can I prevent that?
[21:36] <Dr_willis> !info novo-builder
[21:36] <TJ-> kicker86: I think your simplest solution will be a snapshot of a base install before any customisations have been made - Installing into a raw image virtual machine means you could just 'dd' it to a hard drive and fire it up
[21:36] <Dr_willis> looks like you need to add a ppa or somthing. ;)
[21:36] <sambagirl> well dr_willis
[21:36] <sambagirl> umm
[21:37] <kicker86> TJ-> sure. but then that would not be the simplest solution :)
[21:37] <sambagirl> maybe synaptic has it
[21:38] <kicker86> I suppose, synaptic->list isn't bad and looks to be better than the options!
[21:38] <TJ-> wolter: In the Network Manager applet, choose Edit Connections..., select the Wired connection, Edit... then "IPv4 Settings" tab, then "Routes..." button then tick "Use this connection only for resources on its network"
[21:38] <Dr_willis> sambagirl,  err.. synaptic is a front end to the apt/dpkg system.. so if its not in the repos.. its not in the repos..
[21:38] <sambagirl> i have the tar
[21:39] <sambagirl> but it doesnt install
[21:39] <TJ-> kicker86: Really? It's a darned site faster that reinstalling packages! You install once.. then only need to bitblt the image when you restore
[21:39] <sambagirl> seems to me i could jsut do a install file
[21:39] <Dr_willis> sambagirl,  given the variaty of things that could be in a 'tar' its hard to tell..
[21:40] <sambagirl>  ok
[21:40] <wolter> TJ-, how can I prevent that?
[21:40] <kicker86> TJ: right. maybe I got the wrong idea. Could you please elaborate?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> all the novo-builder hits i find on google are like 2011 and earlier..
[21:41] <Dr_willis> http://maketecheasier.com/build-your-own-ubuntu-based-distro-with-novo-builder/2010/07/02
[21:41] <SilfenX> is there a vncserver for 12-10 that the realvnc viewer is capable of establishing an encrypted connection to?
[21:42] <sambagirl> i decided to run it in the terminal it works with perfection
[21:42] <sambagirl> btw i installed 10.04 cause it works :D
[21:42] <sambagirl> and it is supported :D
[21:43] <Dr_willis> for a while at least.
[21:43] <sambagirl> well i have 10.10 on this one and it's not yet an earlier ver is. go figure. the logic is alomst microsoftish in idiocy :D
[21:44] <Dr_willis> Limited man power is the bottom line.
[21:44] <sambagirl> all the desktop wars are to much anymore.
[21:44] <sambagirl> well you need a few good women
[21:44] <sambagirl> that is the problem
[21:44] <drupin> i tried to install the java 7 via some non working PPA later found its not supported. all files i removed only this two icons are there in settings menu.. how i can remove
[21:44] <TJ-> kicker86: There's 2 ways. 1. Install from LiveCD. Create  10G file-system partition on the HDD. Install into it. Before rebooting, create a 2nd 10G partition on the HDD and 'dd' the installed image into it ("sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2"). Now you have an identical 'recovery' image. Boot as normal to the installed image in /dev/sda1 and use it. Any time in the future you need to reinstall you would boot from the liveCD do "try Ubuntu", start a terminal and do "su
[21:44] <TJ-> do dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sda1". After that completes you can reboot the PC and sda1 will be like new
[21:44] <Dr_willis> drupin,  menus get defined by the various .desktop files, find where those are comming from, remove/move the .desktop file and restart the desktop to regfenerate the menus
[21:45] <L3top> !lts | sambagirl
[21:45] <sambagirl> i am about to resort back to Hoary
[21:45] <sambagirl> oh god l3top
[21:45] <L3top> lol
[21:45] <TJ-> kicker86: The 2nd way is like that but you'd install twice. Once to the hard disk, and a 2nd time into a virtual machine raw image that was aimed at sda2. The first method saves repetition of the install.
[21:45] <drupin> in the /home Dr_willis
[21:45] <L3top> I get that a lot from the wimmins
[21:45] <Dr_willis> drupin,  no idea where they are at. User installed stuff can bein their home.. system wide stuff sould be somewhere else..
[21:46] <sambagirl> why dont you stay in your own channel this is for professional ubuntu personnel :D
[21:46] <wolter> TJ-, thanks!!
[21:47] <Neptu> hej how can i get the version of apt-get for asterisk without install it first?
[21:47] <drupin> ok
[21:47] <Dr_willis> !version
[21:47] <jrib> Neptu: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[21:48] <TJ-> jrib: impressed! I was still trying to figure that question out!
[21:48] <Neptu> jrib: thanks
[21:48] <jrib> TJ-: took me a couple of reads ;)
[21:48]  * TJ- rubs eyes and goes for a coffee!
[21:54] <Robinux> will I need a restart for net. m applet to show up? after installing the applet?
[21:55] <Dr_willis> Robinux,  log out/back in perhaps
[21:55] <TJ-> Robinux: You should be able to start it in a terminal and put it into the background using "nm-applet&"
[21:55] <TJ-> Robinux: I used to do that when I was bug-fixing it
[21:56] <Robinux> ok will try, Dr_willis .... its just that I hate restarting ever since I upgraded to 12.04 ...... it takes ages loading networking configurations or whatever
[21:56] <Robinux> that I will never use
[21:56] <Dr_willis> Robinux,  weird.. mine loads almost instantly.. from Grub -> deskktop in about 10 secs..
[21:56] <Robinux> hah
[21:57] <Robinux> the networking stuff it loads takes 60 seconds
[21:57] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive really seen it load any networking 'stuff'
[21:57] <TJ-> Robinux: sounds like a time-out waiting for something... do you have any NFS mounts in fstab ?
[21:57] <Robinux> TJ-, oh wait I'm on unity I believe, and I installed network-manager-gnome
[21:57] <Dr_willis> or some odd ipv6 quirk.
[21:58] <Robinux> no NFS
[21:58] <TJ-> Robinux: It's always best to check the log files. They're very helpful since they timestamp each entry. You can see where the delays are and find out if they're necessary, or the result of some issue.
[21:59] <Robinux> but my wireless nic doesn't match well with 12.04 I've read about so many others having issues... the fix to get it to connect was to install wicd and remove nm.
[21:59] <TJ-> Robinux: That's a pain.. what's the NIC?
[22:00] <Robinux> so I dunno that could be the reason for the 60 second+ delay loading that sheet
[22:00] <Ben__> test
[22:01] <Robinux> TJ-, Dr_willis:  https://pastee.org/9ht3j
[22:04] <draxxxus> wtf is this
[22:05] <draxxxus> ;]
[22:05] <TJ-> Robinux: The usual problem is that the "ipw2200" module doesn't get loaded. I recall that issue on one of my older test notebooks, but once the module was added to "/etc/modules" it had no problem with Network Manager
[22:08] <Robinux> oh
[22:08] <Robinux> is that automatic or do I have to do it manually TJ-
[22:08] <Robinux> and is network-manager-gnome applet supposed to work with unity?
[22:09] <|Anthony|> ?? X
[22:09] <TJ-> Robinux: Adding a module name to "/etc/modules" means it'll be loaded at strart-up. As long as there isn't an entry in "/etc/network/interfaces" for the WiFi interface (usually wlan0 but can vary) then Network Manager will find and manage the interface for you
[22:09] <|Anthony|> what version of Xorg is in use for 12.04
[22:10] <TJ-> Robinux:  network-manager-gnome is the package that contains nm-applet :)
[22:10] <TJ-> |Anthony|:   2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.8
[22:10] <Toberro> alguem d eportugal
[22:11] <genewitch> i was looking at system requirements for 12.10-beta1-server and it doesn't mention HDD space, what's the bare minimum needed?
[22:11] <TJ-> !pt | Toberro
[22:11] <Robinux> https://pastee.org/ebyrk
[22:11] <Robinux> TJ-, ^^
[22:11] <|Anthony|> TJ-, the version number assigned by Xorg, not the ubuntu version number
[22:11] <TJ-> genewitch: Best asking in #ubuntu+1 but I think it's still to be determined
[22:11] <|Anthony|> like R7.x
[22:11] <genewitch> TJ-: what about 12.04.1
[22:11] <silverghost> oioioioioi
[22:12] <tuxhat> oi ooi oi
[22:12] <Toberro> Obrigado peço desculpas eu deixei a muitos anos de usa ro mirc e vim agora  asaber que ele ainda funciona me ajudem pois ja me esqueci como s eusa  onde encontar canis d eportugal obrigado
[22:12] <silverghost> ooi people u like stage 3 install
[22:12] <tuxhat> stage 3 install in ubuntu WOOOT o.O
[22:12] <TJ-> |Anthony|: It's in the package version: 1.11.4
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> silverghost: yeah its not bad, stage 1 is no lnger supported as far as I remember
[22:12] <|Anthony|> i want to know which user doc i should be looking at here http://www.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation
[22:12] <tuxhat> hey whats the best portage tarball for ubuntu eh
[22:13] <|Anthony|> the version numbers don't exactly match hehe
[22:13] <silverghost> ppl i wamt to compile cinnamon in ubuntu how to do it
[22:13] <tuxhat> i like ubuntu using openrc
[22:13] <Robinux> hmmmmm
[22:13] <tuxhat> u guys are the best
[22:13] <silverghost> lulz
[22:13] <tuxhat> ;)
[22:13] <silverghost> haha
[22:13] <uberTaco> got a weird ACPI problem, for anyone savvy to that sorta thing
[22:13] <tuxhat> openrc FTW
[22:13] <silverghost> ubuntu switching to systemd oioioioi
[22:14] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:14] <|Anthony|> silverghost, that's not true
[22:14] <tuxhat> ubuntu switching to openrc lulz
[22:14] <genewitch> after stage4 how much HDD space is used? anyone know offhand?
[22:14] <Enekoos> any know good man page to move ubuntu-generic to raid unit? I try it but have problem whit grub
[22:14] <silverghost> ubuntu like zfssss filesystem it consumes less memory
[22:14] <genewitch> oops
[22:14] <genewitch> wrong channel again.
[22:14] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:14] <tuxhat> comsumes less memory LULZ
[22:14] <silverghost> lulz
[22:14] <tuxhat> zfs frrrrrrrrt
[22:14] <tuxhat> sucks
[22:15] <silverghost> pfffffffftttttttttttt ext4 lulz
[22:15] <uberTaco> So my battery charges just fine, except after resuming from suspend
[22:15] <tuxhat> HAMMER fs is cool i like what dragonfly bsd is doing
[22:15] <silverghost> lulz
[22:15] <uberTaco> after resuming from suspend, my battery state (/proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state) is "charged"
[22:15] <tuxhat> ubuntu is a bad system for portable devices
[22:15] <uberTaco> even if the battery is at 40%
[22:15] <tuxhat> i say windows starter is better choice
[22:15] <silverghost> ubertaco try mageia its better than ubuntu
[22:15] <tuxhat> i am not joking
[22:15] <silverghost> lulz
[22:15] <tuxhat> ubuntu is fucking bloated
[22:15] <silverghost> a
[22:15] <uberTaco> silverghost: 'k, not helpful
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> tuxhat: not had an issue on my lappy with it
[22:15] <|Anthony|> Tux, try Xubuntu
[22:16] <|Anthony|> super light
[22:16] <k1l_> !ot | silverghost tuxhat
[22:16] <tuxhat> maybe not a laptop
[22:16] <tuxhat> but netbooks
[22:16] <silverghost> guys i want t o compile metro for ubuntu in unity lulz any help
[22:16] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm pretty sure tuxhat was a troll in herearlier in the week
[22:16] <tuxhat> we are getting ban
[22:16] <tuxhat> again
[22:16] <silverghost> lulz
[22:16] <tuxhat> ubuntu sucks suck my cock
[22:16] <silverghost> lulkz
[22:16] <tuxhat> wait i shouldn't say that
[22:16] <k1l_> !ops
[22:16] <silverghost> ahahah
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> tuxnetbook is just a smaller laptop
[22:16] <tuxhat> lots of fagz in here
[22:16] <|Anthony|> !kick tuxhat
[22:16] <|Anthony|> please
[22:16] <silverghost> haha
[22:16] <tuxhat> lul
[22:16] <silverghost> lulz
[22:16] <tuxhat> cry babies
[22:17] <tuxhat> waa waa ubuntu
[22:17] <silverghost> guys wanna compile metro in ubuntu anyhelp
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> tuxhat: do you have a support question?
[22:17] <uberTaco> tuxhat: dude, you're spamming up a support channel. Go find something constructive to do.
[22:17] <silverghost> i have man
[22:17] <tuxhat> fucking baby lala esti tabanack la
[22:17] <silverghost> i want metro in ubuntu
[22:17] <tuxhat> te baby
[22:17] <silverghost> lulz
[22:17] <tuxhat> hahaha
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> silverghost: metro as in Windows 8 interface metro?
[22:17] <Fuchs> tuxhat: drop that please
[22:17] <silverghost> yaa
[22:17] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: they are trolls. dont mind them
[22:17] <tuxhat> whatcha got u fucking unity faggot
[22:17] <tuxhat> WHERE IS THE UNITY UH
[22:17] <silverghost> we can use metro in ubuntu
[22:18] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, theses people know this. and our replies are furthering their enjoyment. please remove them
[22:18] <tuxhat> metro lulz
[22:18] <silverghost> canonical supports azurre l
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> silverghost: you could make something similar in python I guess
[22:18] <f2prateek_> should i use the linux drivers listed on the AMD support page or the one that shows up in the additional drivers menu? this is for the radeon hd 5770
[22:18] <silverghost> canonical support microsoft eh
[22:18] <silverghost> lulz radeon 5770
[22:18] <silverghost> lulz
[22:18] <silverghost> ahahaha
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> please guys, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:19] <uberTaco> f2prateek_: the ones in the additional drivers menu are gonna be better ubuntu-supported, but the ones on AMD's support page will be newer
[22:19] <ozette_> ubuntu 12.04, my backlight sometimes randomly turns brighter and then darker again - what's up?
[22:19] <uberTaco> f2prateek_: so it's just a matter of picking which route you'd prefer
[22:19] <silverghost> i want jolicloud interface in ubunt uhow to do it man it is shit
[22:19] <Artemis3> Fuchs, you missed silverghost
[22:19] <Fuchs> silverghost: please be nice as well
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !ati | f2prateek_
[22:19] <Fuchs> silverghost: or else just leave.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: what make and model system?
[22:20] <f2prateek_> uberTaco: ActionParsnip: thanks, I was just wondering if anyone has some experience with either and which one they would recommend
[22:20] <ozette_> ActionParsnip asus k53 laptop
[22:20] <silverghost> fuck ubuntu fuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubunt ufuck ubun
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[22:20] <TJ-> ozette_: Could it be the power-savings / backlight dimmer timer settings?
[22:20] <FloodBot1> silverghost: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <uberTaco> When someone ACPI-savvy has a spare moment, I've got a weird issue with battery charge state after resume.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: why was that not in the initial question?
[22:21] <|Anthony|> thank you
[22:21] <ozette_> TJ- my backlight is at it's lowest, but sometimes gets somewhat brighter for no reason
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> uberTaco: are there any bugs reported?
[22:21] <TJ-> uberTaco: Any clues in kern.log ?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: do you have the latest BIOS?
[22:21] <uberTaco> f2prateek_: I'm on a Radeon mobility system. I'm just using the version from the "Additional drivers" menu, no problems so far.
[22:21] <uberTaco> ActionParsnip: not that I've found by googling (incl. with domain filters)
[22:22] <|Anthony|> xubuntu running Xorg 1.11.3.  Which version does that match up with here http://www.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation
[22:22] <TJ-> ozette_: Hmmm... are the brighter times linked to anything you/the PC are doing - like programs being run?
[22:22] <Robinux> oij;jn;in
[22:22] <uberTaco> TJ-: wasn't aware of that logfile. I'll repro the issue and see what I find there. Thanks
[22:22] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, I might not, but how can I know if 12.04 will support that?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> uberTaco: I suggest you report a bug
[22:22] <uberTaco> ActionParsnip: I wanted to ensure it wasn't misconfiguration first.
[22:23] <ozette_> TJ-, webbrowsing, when I scroll up or down with arrow keys
[22:23] <ozette_> TJ-, for example ..
[22:23] <f2prateek_> uberTaco: sounds good, thanks
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: you may need a windows OS to do it :(. Check to see what fixes the newer BIOS gives. You may not need it if you get no ACPI fixes
[22:23] <uberTaco> ozette_: hm. Stuck function key maybe?
[22:23] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, no thanks :)
[22:24] <uberTaco> software-stuck, not hardware. Or possibly weird keycode issues of that sort
[22:24] <ozette_> uberTaco, I don't know but it's really anoying and it's at random so it can't be a setting
[22:24] <TJ-> uberTaco: There are some additional ACPI-related boot-time kernel parameters you can try that may help. The current set are found in the kernel source's "Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt" which you can find on the kernels' git-web site
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: so, why didn't you mention the make and model of the system in the initial question?
[22:25] <uberTaco> TJ-: ah, awesome. Thanks
[22:25] <uberTaco> ActionParsnip: bit hostile, dude. Mellow a bit. :)
[22:25] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, does it matter, I want to have a broad audience
[22:25] <TJ-> ozette_: sounds weird, but could it be related to when the CPU switches from a low speed to a higher speed (as you ask it to do more when pressing a key) ?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: yes because it uniquely identifys the components in the system and we can also search for bugs for the model
[22:25] <ozette_> TJ-, hmm ..
[22:26] <uberTaco> back in a bit -- gonna suspend/resume to reproduce the issue and watch kernel log
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: does it have a dual video chip? Intel and nvidia for example?
[22:26] <Neptu> hej how i can download the kernel sources of my current project?
[22:26] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, Ok but now you know it right
[22:26] <[twisti]> is there no ubuntu server live cd ?
[22:26] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, no ati
[22:26] <k1l_> [twisti]: no, that doesnt make sense ata ll
[22:26] <[twisti]> it does to me
[22:26] <TJ-> Neptu: "git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git"
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an intel GPU too?
[22:26] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, I believe this Asus' model is k53U
[22:26] <[twisti]> just because you personally dont want or need something doesnt mean nobody does
[22:27] <k1l_> [twisti]: then use a regular live cd
[22:27] <jrib> [twisti]: I don't believe there is one.  Why do you need it?
[22:27] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, let me check
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: if you boot to the server installation, you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 and get a terminal
[22:27] <Neptu> TJ-: does not sound like a plan
[22:27] <[twisti]> where does one get the regular live cd ?
[22:27] <|Anthony|> why does the Xorg version numbering differ from the man page (1.11.3) and here http://www.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation
[22:27] <TJ-> !cdimage
[22:27] <|Anthony|> makes it difficult to know which doc to read
[22:27] <jrib> [twisti]: the regular ubuntu cd (the desktop one) is also a live cd
[22:27] <[twisti]> i see only the regular download on the page
[22:27] <k1l_> !downloads > [twisti]
[22:27] <[twisti]> ah, ok, thanks
[22:27] <Neptu> Anyone know how to get the sources from my current kernel using apt-get?
[22:27] <blackshirt> neptu
[22:27] <blackshirt> N
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: the regular download has the option to run a live desktop and not install
[22:28] <TJ-> Neptu: "apt-get source <package-name>"
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: prefixed with sudo?
[22:29] <blackshirt> linux-source
[22:29] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: nope, not for sources
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: cool, just checking :)
[22:30] <ozette_> no intel chip
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: good, that makes life a tonne easier
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: try the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor
[22:34] <Neptu> ok cross fingers
[22:34] <TJ-> ozette_: It'd be helpful to know what backlight controller is in use right now. Do "ls -l /sys/class/backlight/"
[22:35] <thomasross> Hi
[22:35] <thomasross> Is there an xubuntu room?
[22:35] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, ok
[22:35] <k1l_> thomasross: #xubuntu ?
[22:35] <ozette_> TJ-, oki
[22:36] <uberTaco> hmm, not much in kern.log that seems useful
[22:36] <uberTaco> only errors are "IBS APIC setup failed on cpu #1" and the same for cpu #2
[22:36] <uberTaco> googling those errors isn't exactly revelatory
[22:37] <uberTaco> but I think since they're CPU-related, they shouldn't affect battery state -- right?
[22:37] <TJ-> uberTaco: AMD CPU?
[22:38] <uberTaco> TJ-: yep, Phenom II X3
[22:38] <uberTaco> a mobile chip
[22:38] <TJ-> uberTaco: Can you pastebin the lines from kern.log from when the system prepares to go into suspend, until it has fully resumed?
[22:38] <uberTaco> sure
[22:38] <ozette_> TJ-, does acpi_video0 tell you anything?
[22:39] <chriswere> hey guys, why is it so darn difficult to get duel monitors working from different graphics cards? I set up my windows partition to do this in less than 10 minutes but have spent the whole day doing it here and I'm only find more bugs. Please help guys.
[22:39] <TJ-> uberTaco: The IBS reports is usually reported as a firmware bug... ACPI is otherwise known as firmware, so yes, it could be related
[22:39] <TJ-> ozette_: Can you show me the entire output of that command ?
[22:40] <k1l_> chriswere: i think its easy, atleast its for me with my nvidia card.  but if you mention your real problem and the driver and video card someone could help
[22:40] <chriswere> I've tried to set up dual monitors in gnome and every time i log in it creates additional panels, I don't know why, also with dual monitors enabled I'm stuck without gnome 3d which is a pain.
[22:40] <uberTaco> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/yqwgwZLN
[22:40] <mg2013> I have vino setup on my desktop, I want to remote view it on my laptop but how do I do that?
[22:40] <TJ-> chriswere: Unfortunately, the folks that write the display drivers apparently don't use multi-GPU multi-monitor set-ups too often and therefore don't test it!
[22:40] <Kii> hi there
[22:40] <Kii> :p
[22:41] <chriswere> k1l_: do you know how i go about fixing this?
[22:41] <uberTaco> mg2013: you'll want to use a VNC viewer to connect to your desktop
[22:41] <mg2013> do you know of any?
[22:41] <Kii> does anyone know how to use play on linux or wine
[22:41] <k1l_> chriswere: fixing what?
[22:41] <ozette_> TJ-, acpi_video0 -> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/backlight/acpi_video0
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Kii: play what?
[22:42] <uberTaco> mg2013: Vinagre is a good one if you're in regular ubuntu (GNOME desktop), krdc is good for Kubuntu (KDE desktop)
[22:42] <chriswere> k1l_: fixing the fact I can't set up dual monitors, that since I select two monitors it gets rid of my gnome 3d and puts me into the 2d version, which adds additional panels each and evry time i log in.
[22:42] <Kii> I've got an original CD of Age  Of Empire but wine nor pol recognize it
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Kii: is it listed on the wine appdb?
[22:42] <ghassani> I am having issues with GRUB in 12.04.1 - It never times out and automatically selects the OS I specified in the config. I have to hit enter. I havent even changed the config at all.. My config: http://pastebin.com/mHL9ArTK
[22:43] <mg2013> ok, thanks!
[22:43] <Kii> is that appdb relative to me ?
[22:43] <TJ-> ozette_: OK, that tells us that the backlight is being controlled by ACPI system firmware written by the PC maker. It could be some kind of ACPI firmware interaction that isn't correctly interpreted. Try ActionParsnip's suugestion for an alternate backlight driver at boot time
[22:43] <k1l_> chriswere: that depends on the videocards and the used driver.
[22:43] <ozette_> ok
[22:43] <as007> boys....boys everywhere.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Kii: yes as it tells of users experiences with certain apps
[22:44] <TJ-> uberTaco: Your log matches reports I'm reading ... file a bug against the "linux" package on launchpad
[22:44] <uberTaco> Kii: http://appdb.winehq.org has a list of which apps/games are supported well by Wine. Often there are instructions for making more problematic apps behave properly in Wine
[22:44] <Kii> it is listed on POL available software, where can I find this list ?
[22:44] <Kii> ty :)
[22:44] <chriswere> k1l_okay just found another bug, my terminal won't let me type anything in it
[22:45] <chriswere> wow I can't belive how many bugs I'm finding in ubuntu today. so much buggier than windows
[22:45] <uberTaco> TJ-: are there existing bug reports? No need to clog up the bug tracker
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: i doubt it
[22:45] <TJ-> ghassani: That occurs when the operating system didn't shutdown cleanly last time. GRUB won't autoboot in case it starts a kernel that is broken
[22:45] <uberTaco> chriswere: you didn't happen to press Ctrl-S, did you?
[22:45] <chriswere> uberTaco: no
[22:46] <TJ-> uberTaco: You'd find that out when you write the bug summary and launchpad looks for existing bugs that may match
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: the ones in Ubuntu are just mor visible
[22:46] <d00durk00l> Okay I am going to ask this question again and hopefully someone here has a answer!
[22:46] <Kii> i found it on the wine appdb
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: if you use terminal a lot, I can recommend you install guake :)
[22:46] <uberTaco> chriswere: mmkay, that happens sometimes. Ctrl-S sends a character that stops output in the terminal -- a holdover from old TTY days
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Kii: what rating does it get?
[22:46] <ghassani> hmm, I am shutting down with sudo shutdown -h 0
[22:46] <ghassani> should I be doing it another way?
[22:46] <uberTaco> TJ-: thanks, will do
[22:47] <Kii> platinium
[22:47] <d00durk00l> I am runnig a sftp server and have a friend downloading a file through it... How can I check on my side what the % the download is at... There has to be a way to monitor what is taking place on the server...?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> ghassani: sounds fine, you can also use:  sudo shutdown -h now
[22:47] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: well you can say what you like but I'm finding far too many bugs doing simple things in Ubuntu. I'm surprised it's even made release, the about of time and money it's cost me
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Kii: great :), read down and it will give a howto guide to getting it working
[22:47] <TJ-> ghassani: No, if the PC correctly shuts down that should be setting the simpleboot flag correctly. It is possible that GRUB's default settings have been changed I guess, or that it can't load its own saved environment (I've seen that recently!)
[22:47] <genewitch> d00durk00l: downloading from your server or to it
[22:47] <d00durk00l> genewitch: Sorry what?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: I can name some dumb bugs in Windows which exist, one is as old as the hills
[22:48] <genewitch> d00durk00l: is your friend downloading ON TO your server, of ON TO his computer FROM your server.
[22:48] <d00durk00l> My friend is downloading a file from my server correct... i want to know what the % its at?
[22:48] <ghassani> let me try to shutdown from the server itself rather then from SSH see if that makes any difference. I did notice if I just do a simple reboot it does auto load the OS
[22:48] <d00durk00l> he is downloading not uploading
[22:48] <d00durk00l> from my server
[22:48] <Robinux> hi TJ-, should this work with 12.04 ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[22:48] <genewitch> d00durk00l: what's he downloading it from, apache? ftp? NFS? samba?
[22:48] <d00durk00l> sftp
[22:49] <mg2013> Its not that fast..kinda laggy.. is there any way to havfe it faster?
[22:49] <genewitch> d00durk00l: check the documentation for your stfpd
[22:49] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: not saying Windows isn't buggy, but setting up dual monitors took me less than 10 minutes. I had to take a day off work to do it in Linux and I'm still no closer.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: what isn't taht fast?
[22:49] <d00durk00l> genewitch: really?
[22:49] <mg2013> the vino remote desktop stuff
[22:49] <d00durk00l> :P
[22:49] <d00durk00l> I was hoping someone knew off hand
[22:49] <genewitch> d00durk00l: i do know off hand
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: i've setup dual screens but I always buy nvidai, there is a handy app to configure it easily
[22:50] <d00durk00l> genewitch: Ahhh come on
[22:50] <genewitch> it's not an ubuntu issue, d00durk00l, it's an sftp issue. read the docs
[22:50] <Robinux> Hi, should this work with 12.04 ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[22:50] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: I've got 2 nvidia cards, what's the app?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: what do you do on the remote desktop once you connect?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: nvidia-settings
[22:50] <genewitch> d00durk00l: watch -n 1 'ifconfig |grep TX'
[22:50] <mg2013> use it..lol move windows around and stuff..
[22:50] <d00durk00l> genewitch: You rock!! thx :)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: yes but to achieve what?
[22:50] <genewitch> that just shows you bits moving, not a %
[22:50] <genewitch> d00durk00l: ^
[22:51] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: That's what I've been using. Why can't I get gnome 3d to work then?
[22:51] <d00durk00l> genewitch: Is there a way to see percentage?
[22:51] <mg2013> I don't know I tinker around with stuff..
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: what nvidia chip are you using?
[22:51] <usr13> chriswere: I was about to say the same thing as ActionParsnip.  Linux users learn early on to shop wisely.  Buying the right hardware makes things much easer.
[22:51] <coredestruction> using bash to move some rename some mp3 files using id3info. what would be the best way to replace a / in a variable?
[22:51] <draxxxus> reverse
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: like what, can you at least try to be specific please
[22:51] <Kii> ActionParsnip: thank you very much, i'm right now installing my game :)
[22:51] <usr13> chriswere: You have an Nvidia display adapter?
[22:51] <mg2013> Move files, open up Nautilus and stuff...
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Kii: coolio
[22:51] <zykotick9> coredestruction: / isn't a valid filename character?
[22:52] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: GTX550TI and I can't remember the 2nd (also nvidia) I can't use a console to lspci because it's bugged
[22:52] <Kii> see you !
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: you can do that with SFTP, you don't need the desktop for that
[22:52] <mg2013> I know I can do it with FTP or SSH but I like to have a gui
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: what driver version does nvidia-settings say you are using?
[22:52] <jgcampbell300> I am looking for a version of linux to do nothing but view my security camras ... they have there own dvr and are viewed right now throu http:// in browser ... anyone know of a good sys to install
[22:52] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: the one's from jockey-gtk
[22:53] <black_joe> jgcampbell300: Something lightweight like tinycore or puppy may do for that.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> mg2013: install openssh-server and you can move your files round a lot quicker via SFTP from your client PC
[22:53] <d00durk00l> genewitch: But doesn't that just show my transmission of all connections not just the sftp server?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: what version does it say?
[22:53] <lucian_> hi how can i get aircrack ?
[22:54] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: i doesn't say how do i find out?
[22:54] <coredestruction> zykotick9, i am using mv to rename the files - mv $1 "ARTIST - $ALBUM - $TRACKNUM - $TITLE.mp3" However, artists like AC/DC or track numbering like 6/12 causes mv to fail saying - naturally - the directory doesnt exist
[22:54] <lucian_> on the default reposi.. i can't find them
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: when you first run the app, read the window in front of you
[22:54] <zykotick9> coredestruction: ahh.  sorry, i have no idea.  but you can't use / in filename, as you've discovered.
[22:54] <d00durk00l> genewitch: It shows the how many gb have been sent so really it is a percent.....
[22:54] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: 295.40
[22:55] <coredestruction> indeed. I knew AC/DC would be an issue, but the track numbering is a bigger problem.
[22:55] <zykotick9> coredestruction: AC/DC rocks BTW </OT>
[22:55] <TJ-> d00durk00l: I think I've found out how you can check... using /proc/$PID/fdinfo/
[22:55] <uberTaco> coredestruction: might be time to bring out something more heavy-duty than bash
[22:55] <lucian_> hello can anyone help me get aircrack the easy way
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: could try the xorg updates ppa (less fresh more stable) your 550 will benefit from the later driver
[22:55] <d00durk00l> genewitch: Or at least gives me a good idea of where the transmission is at ... unless i am using u/l
[22:55] <lucian_> terminal package
[22:56] <d00durk00l> TJ kk lemme check that thanks :)
[22:56] <coredestruction> uberTaco, do I have to? :P
[22:56] <jgcampbell300> black_joe: i was thinking the same ... thanks ... do you know if tinycore comes with a browser
[22:56] <uberTaco> coredestruction: alternatively, pipe it through sed and replace "/" with "\/"
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !find aircrack
[22:56] <dwarder> zykotick9: Alternating Current/Direct Current ?
[22:56] <coredestruction> zykotick9, agreed.
[22:56] <L3top> coredestruction: you are going to have to run this through sed I believe. something to the effect of sed 's/\/\\/g'
[22:56] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: Why do you think this will help, every time you guys have asked me to install PPA it's almost always broken my install.
[22:56] <zykotick9> dwarder: ya AC current rocks as well ;)
[22:56] <lucian_> i know i can't find it but a rep source
[22:56] <cyberpork> hello!
[22:56] <lucian_> :(
[22:57] <L3top> uberTaco beat me to it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !info aircrack-ng
[22:57] <TJ-> d00durk00l: If you know the process ID (ssh I assume) you first find the file-descriptor number for the file using "ls -l /proc/$PID/fd/", then do "cat /proc/$PID/fdinfo/$FD" it will report "pos: and flags:" I *think* "pos:" is the currentl position of the seek in the file
[22:57] <tortib> Hello everyone
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: you have a fairly new nvidia chip and the driver is quite old, the newer driver will help
[22:57] <cyberpork> anyone can help me? my apt crash when it tries to install or upgrade /linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic
[22:57] <blackshirt> hello tortib
[22:57] <cyberpork> and also on /linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic
[22:57] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: where's the ppa?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <blackshirt> cyberpork, what do you mean with crash?
[22:58] <d00durk00l> TJ > Interesting .. sec
[22:58] <zykotick9> !info linux-image
[22:58] <tortib> I'm trying to setup openvpn to connect to my android phone, I've almost have it setup but when i try to connect with my phone I get an error stating "FATAL: linux ifconfig failed: could not execute external program" does anyone have any idea  as to what may be causing this?
[22:58] <coredestruction> L3top, would I for example be able to use echo $ARTIST ¦ sed 's/\/\\/g' ?
[22:59] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: and how do i do this with a broken terminal emulator?
[22:59] <cyberpork> blackshirt, it says there is a problem
[22:59] <coredestruction> no, that would do sod all as it wouldnt write it to the variable
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: open another one
[22:59] <L3top> no.... I would need to see the whole thing to show you how to pipe it
[22:59] <kefir> anyone else getting partial upgrade warnings? I've had one for almost a week now, it won't go away
[22:59] <zykotick9> cyberpork: what version of ubuntu are you using "lsb_release -a" if unsure.  you should be seeing 3.2.0.30.32 if on current?
[22:59] <cyberpork> blackshirt, i put the error in a pastebin and i link to you
[22:59] <L3top> coredestruction: ^
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: or save the command in a text file and treat it as a script file ni CTRL+ALT+F1
[22:59] <cyberpork> blackshirt, i use 12.04 precise
[23:00] <TJ-> coredestruction: I usually encode 'illegal' characters the same way HTML Entities are encoded in URLs, so %2F is /
[23:00] <blackshirt> cyberpork, you should more detail i think...that just a problem, many posibilities
[23:00] <cyberpork> blackshirt, it's a ditro upgrade from the 10.04 studio
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: or run xterm  and use taht instead
[23:00] <tortib> I'm trying to setup openvpn to connect to my android phone, I've almost have it setup but when i try to connect with my phone I get an error stating "FATAL: linux ifconfig failed: could not execute external program" does anyone have any idea  as to what may be causing this?
[23:00] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: xterm doesn't seem to want to open up
[23:00] <cyberpork> blackshirt, yes i write to you the output of apt-get upgrade
[23:00] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: urxvt ftw ;)
[23:01] <d00durk00l> 806  ssh-agent 1423      sysop  cwd   unknown                              /proc/1423/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   807  ssh-agent 1423      sysop  rtd   unknown                              /proc/1423/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   808  ssh-agent 1423      sysop  txt   unknown                              /proc/1423/exe (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   809  ssh-agent 1423      sysop NOFD                                        /proc/1423/fd (opendir: Permission denied)
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   810  sshd      2791       root  cwd   unknown                              /proc/2791/cwd (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <FloodBot1> d00durk00l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   811  sshd      2791       root  rtd   unknown                              /proc/2791/root (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <d00durk00l>   812  sshd      2791       root  txt   unknown                              /proc/2791/exe (readlink: Permission denied)
[23:01] <TJ-> tortib: run openvpn with maximum debug logging should pin it down
[23:01] <coredestruction> L3top, pastebin.org/ntLUtky7 By my own admission i struggle with sed
[23:01] <TJ-> !pastebin | d00durk00l
[23:01] <tortib> TJ-: how do i do that?
[23:01] <usr13> chriswere: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[23:02] <cyberpork> anytime i want to install a package it stays this error
[23:02] <cyberpork> blackshirt, anytime i want to install a package it stays this error
[23:02] <blackshirt> cyberpork, upgrade with a lot of packages installed would increase risk of broken
[23:02] <d00durk00l> TJ Does that sound flaky to you?
[23:02] <usr13> chriswere: (tty6)
[23:02] <blackshirt> cyberpork, please, more specific with the error...what is it said?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: add the line to a text file and you can run the command in TTY1
[23:03] <Robinux> what does this error mean? ---> sudo ip addr del 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0
[23:03] <Robinux> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[23:03] <z1gg3h> Evenin' chaps. OR Morning to those in England like me XP.
[23:03] <usr13> chriswere: But write down the command first.  Ctrl-Alt-F7 will bring you back to the GUI, (or what's left of it).
[23:03] <z1gg3h> Welcome back marmot.
[23:03] <tortib> TJ-: i'm gettin connection refused in the syslog
[23:03] <d00durk00l> TJ why can't I get it to see your name with tab?
[23:03] <|Anthony|> why does the Xorg version numbering differ from the Ubuntu Xorg man page (1.11.3) and here http://www.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation
[23:03] <|Anthony|> makes it difficult to know which doc to read
[23:03] <cyberpork> blackshirt, http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:03] <cyberpork> http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:03] <TJ-> tortib: See "man openvpn" ... the "--verb n" option sets verbosity levels for logging
[23:03] <coredestruction> z1gg3h, morning :P
[23:04] <tortib> TJ-: is there a way to set it in the configuration file?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> 3 past midnight is morning?
[23:04] <d00durk00l> TJ-: Nevermind
[23:04] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: look before i do this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade cn you help me get my terminal working?
[23:04] <blackshirt> anthony, read debian packages numbering
[23:04] <z1gg3h> In my world, tis. XD
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: try a reboot
[23:04] <d00durk00l> TJ-: Didn't see the "-"
[23:04] <z1gg3h> Anyway, got a slight graphical goin' on with my install, if someone could be kind enough to help?
[23:04] <chriswere> okay brb, this is seeming more and more worse than windoze
[23:04] <z1gg3h> *graphical error
[23:04] <TJ-> d00durk00l: firstly, when reading entries in /proc/ you'll often need to prefix commands with "sudo" because regular users often don't have privileges
[23:05] <|Anthony|> blackshirt, i almost didn't see your response. lol my nick is |Anthony|
[23:05] <cyberpork> anyone can help me with this apt error?? http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:05] <|Anthony|> blackshirt, thanks for the reply
[23:05] <Cyclohexane> is it possible to download files using apt-get without installing? (actually view the files not the .deb file)
[23:06] <blackshirt> cyberpork, sorry, i sit on handheld devices.. I can't see your link
[23:06] <cyberpork> blackshirt, i've just tried apt-get install -f and dpkg --configure -a but nothing function
[23:06] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: okay done a reboot, what's that ppa command again?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Cyclohexane: sure, read the man page for apt-get and you'll see there is the option for what you want
[23:06] <blackshirt> cyclohexane, you mean download it ? Yes
[23:07] <cyberpork> blackshirt, no problem thanks anyway
[23:07] <nannes> does ubuntu Precise use readahead for boot managing?
[23:07] <tortib> TJ-:
[23:07] <Robinux> what does this error mean? ---> sudo ip addr del 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0
[23:07] <Robinux> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[23:07] <tortib> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209962/
[23:07] <cyberpork> http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> chriswere: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:08] <usr13> Robinux: What are you trying to do?
[23:08] <d00durk00l> TJ-: No I got those from open files with ssh process via the lsof | grep ssh
[23:08] <L3top> coredestruction: try http://pastebin.com/SE6ZFYze
[23:08] <Robinux> usr13, give eth0 that IP ... I'm trying to NAT
[23:08] <d00durk00l> I found those a little odd however not sure if they are created from sftp
[23:09] <TJ-> d00durk00l: You need to use "sudo" to beat that "permission denied" response for some details
[23:09] <bkc_> Robinux: change del to add
[23:09] <d00durk00l> oh its a permission denied on my part kk
[23:09] <usr13> Robinux: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1  #Will assign eth0 an IP of 192.168.0.1
[23:10] <bkc_> usr13: don't recommend using ifconfig
[23:10] <TJ-> tortib: The problem is there in the log "local='dev-type tun', remote='dev-type tap'" In other words, locally you're telling openvpn to TUNnel (level 3 - IP protocol) but on the remote device you're telling it to TAP (level 2 - Ethernet)
[23:10] <tortib> any idea how i can tell openvpn on android to use tun?
[23:10] <Robinux> i can't believe I did that
[23:10] <usr13> Robinux:  If you want to share the internet connection, see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[23:10] <usr13> bkc_: Why not?
[23:11] <tortib> TJ-: under help on the openvpn client it says tun in kernel or tun.ko
[23:11] <tortib> on android
[23:11] <tortib> so it should be using tun
[23:11] <Robinux> I AM following that usr13 bro... its just I did a dumb command line newbie mistake ... lol
[23:11] <bkc_> usr13: depricated for ip
[23:12] <usr13> bkc_: I haven't recommend anything yet, accept, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[23:12] <tortib> TJ-: i tried to set the openvpn server to tap and that didn't help either
[23:12] <tortib> it still gives the same error
[23:12] <bkc_> usr13: you told him to use ifconfig... that's a recommendation in my eyes :)
[23:12] <usr13> bkc_: Maybe so, but it still works.
[23:12] <usr13> bkc_: I did not tell him to do anything.
[23:13] <blackshirt> still usable and available
[23:13] <blackshirt> that was not wrong
[23:14] <TJ-> tortib: the kernel driver for tun/tap is tun.ko (which is built-in to Ubuntu kernels)
[23:14] <gordonjcp> bkc_: is there a comprehensive guide to using "ip"?
[23:14] <bkc_> gordonjcp: man ip
[23:14] <gordonjcp> bkc_: I've never been able to get "ip" to work
[23:14] <gordonjcp> the syntax is insane
[23:14] <TJ-> tortib: from that pastebin log you also need to match the MTUs
[23:15] <bkc_> gordonjcp: the syntax is better/easier than ifconfig... it also embeds route :)
[23:15] <gordonjcp> bkc_: the syntax makes no sense at all
[23:15] <cyberpork> anyone can help me with this apt error?? http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:15] <tortib> TJ-: how do i set the MTU in the config?
[23:15] <coredestruction> L3top, nope :/ mv: cannot blah blah blah. thinking about it, surely i could pipe into a second sed? grep '^[23:15] <TJ-> tortib: "man openvpn"
[23:15] <gordonjcp> bkc_: and it messes with the routing table, which I thought was a bug
[23:16] <cyberpork> this is the apt-get upgrade output http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:16] <blackshirt> cyberpork, can you show the most importan error here?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> bkc_: apparently "ip" mucking up the routing table is desired behaviour
[23:16] <bkc_> gordonjcp: as I said, it embeds route... which is a good thing :)
[23:16] <tortib> TJ-: man openvpn gives all the arguments for the command line not for the server.conf
[23:16] <gordonjcp> bkc_: no, it's an extremely bad thing
[23:16] <tortib> i want the server.conf options
[23:16] <gordonjcp> it *always* does the wrong thing
[23:16] <gordonjcp> bkc_: routing has nothing to do with interface management
[23:17] <tortib> TJ-: or can i just drop the -- and add the option to the server.conf ?
[23:17] <bkc_> gordonjcp: no? I never have to mess around with routing... and my network is pretty big and messy...
[23:17] <TJ-> tortib: "OPTIONS OpenVPN allows any option to be placed either on the command line or in a configuration file.  Though  all  command  line options are preceded by a double-leading-dash ("--"), this prefix can be removed when an option is placed in a configuration file."
[23:18] <jrib> cyberpork: install the syslinux-themes-debian package (and file a bug maybe)
[23:18] <gordonjcp> bkc_: does it have a mail client too?  What about an mp3 player built into ip?
[23:18] <bkc_> gordonjcp: just give it a rest will ya...
[23:19] <cyberpork> blackshirt, it says E: /usr/share/syslinux/themes/debian/extlinux: No such file or directory
[23:19] <cyberpork> run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-extlinux exited with return code 1
[23:19] <cyberpork> Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic.postinst line 1010.
[23:19] <cyberpork> dpkg: errore nell'elaborare linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic (--configure):
[23:19] <cyberpork>  il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 2
[23:19] <gordonjcp> !pastebin | cyberpork
[23:19] <cyberpork> http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:19] <cyberpork> sorry
[23:19] <cyberpork> http://pastebin.com/0Cwyf0fF
[23:20] <cyberpork> jrib, ok i try
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> cyberpork: what is the output of:  file /usr/share/syslinux/themes/debian/extlinux
[23:20] <tortib> TJ-: also those are just warnings, they shouldn't cause the client to not connect
[23:20] <jrib> ActionParsnip: it's probably debbug #656663
[23:21] <tortib> TJ-: i take that back i don't know the behavior of openvpn
[23:21] <TJ-> tortib: well try it again with maximum verbose debug logging see what else is revealed
[23:22] <cyberpork> ActionParsnip, the output is config.c32  memtest.bin  other.cfg   rosh.c32    stdmenu.cfg  vesamenu.c32
[23:22] <cyberpork> hdt.c32     menu.cfg     reboot.c32  splash.png  theme.cfg
[23:25] <Deutopia> what is a good site to learn apache2?
[23:25] <jrib> Deutopia: maybe #httpd can give you some pointers
[23:26] <TJ-> Deutopia: apache.org
[23:26] <cyberpork> jrib, oh man it's all ok now!
[23:26] <cyberpork> jrib, thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:26] <brightsparks> I'm trying to install an nvidia card. It says that the headers and sources need to be installed. I'v installed the headers but how do I install the linux sources?
[23:26] <sambagirl> hi i am currently working on my own distro and i was just curious if there is any kind of authority that inspects releases before they are posted on distrowatch?
[23:26] <jrib> cyberpork: no problem.  It's debian bug #656663 .  But I didn't look to see if one had been filed in launchpad
[23:27] <cyberpork> thanks to all!!!!! you are great!
[23:27] <gtech_> I think vncviewer is causing X to crash, how do I find out?
[23:27] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  you are trying to use the .run driver package from nvidia.com ?
[23:27] <cyberpork> jrib, on the webforum there wasn't anything
[23:27] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: yes
[23:28] <Dr_willis> sambagirl,  disrtowatch has its own rules and guidelines.. they decide what they want to put up.
[23:28] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  the ones from the repos dident work?
[23:28] <sambagirl> oh i see
[23:28] <tortib> TJ-: et to 3
[23:28] <tortib> Sep 16 16:27:45 miner1 ovpn-server[5864]: Zentrex/192.168.1.1:60876 TLS: tls_multi_process: i=1
[23:28] <tortib> er
[23:28] <tortib> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209991/
[23:29] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: not sure what you mean. I usually install the nvidia driver for this card.
[23:29] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: okay i'm install the ppa now, I hope it works
[23:29] <gtech> I think vncviewer is causing X on my client machine to crash, how do I find out?
[23:29] <tortib> gtech: logfiles
[23:30] <gtech> tortib: which ones+
[23:30] <tortib> X should have a log file
[23:30] <gtech> ?*
[23:30] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  the addational-drivers tool *aka  jockey-gtk* is how one normally installs the nvidia drivers.
[23:30] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: so do you know how update and install the linux sources. Sorry I don't know anything about jockey-gtk (I think).
[23:31] <gtech> tortib: I found /usr/share/X11/XErrorDB through the manpage
[23:31] <tortib> gtech: it would be in /var/log
[23:31] <TJ-> tortib: I don't see anything there that tells me a fault, but it is a long time since my openvpn connections had issues
[23:32] <zoktar> anyone have an idea how to get libfreetype6-dev:i386 with libfreetype6-dev already installed ? some kind of workaround?, it does not seem to like the multilib/arch :(
[23:32] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  You SHOULD be using the addational-drivers tool (gksudo jockey-gtk) first.. befor you try to use the .run package.
[23:32] <Robinux> does NAT require dnsmasq?
[23:32] <TJ-> tortib: Is the link UDP or TCP?
[23:32] <draxxxus> be care ful of the echelon
[23:32] <tortib> UDP
[23:33] <zykotick9> brightsparks: i agree with Dr_willis's statment.  using the nvidia.com drive on ubuntu, is a poor choice.  (could, but probably isn't, required though).
[23:34] <gtech> tortib: is each successive log a different invocation of X?
[23:34] <blahdyblahblah> do not use the driver from nvidias website.
[23:34] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: I usually can manage to install the nvidia card by shutting down gdm and switching to a terminal. Running the package it automatically removes the nouveau or whatever and successfully installs.
[23:34] <tortib> gtech: logrotate will backup older logs
[23:34] <tortib> and gzip them
[23:34] <tortib> so if you see more than one that's why
[23:35] <tortib> the most recent one wont have a .gz extension usually
[23:35] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  y You have been doing it wrongly.. even if it works..  try the ones in the repository FIRST.
[23:35] <draxxxus> thank you all for the info **()#
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Using the  jockey-gtk i get the nvidia drivers going in about 60 sec.. and 4 clicks...
[23:36] <Dr_willis> no need to get the .run package from nvidia, no need to mess with other stuff.
[23:36] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: additionally, you don't contiminate you install using the .run - and you get updates!
[23:36] <tortib> TJ-: is there an openvpn client for windows?
[23:36] <[twisti]> i am running ubuntu 12 as a persistent live cd, is there an easy way to completely shut down all this X crap and leave only text mode ?
[23:36] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: I must be using those at the moment. I have limited screen resolutions available. That's mainly why I want to install the nvidia card driver
[23:36] <cyberpork> bye bye and W UBUNTU
[23:36] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  run the nvidia-setting tool and see what driver you are using..
[23:36] <draxxxus> quit
[23:36] <draxxxus> qiuit it
[23:36] <TJ-> tortib: I have no idea!
[23:37] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  the ones in the repos are the same as what you would get with the .run drivers. tehy may be a little older version. but  the main thing is 'they are supported here'
[23:37] <Dr_willis> and they will update like any other packages.
[23:37] <battlehands> I just installed lubuntu, and I'm wondering which directory I should install matlab to
[23:37] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: lspci?
[23:37] <[twisti]> or am i going to have to hunt down all the various X and unity packages and uninstall them one by one ?
[23:37] <Dr_willis> battlehands,  most likely anywhere in the users home.
[23:37] <TJ-> [twisti]: Add "text" to the kernel command line(s) via GRUB's /etc/default/grub file and then "update-grub"
[23:37] <Dr_willis> !text | [twisti]
[23:38] <[twisti]> awesome, thank you guys
[23:38] <zykotick9> battlehands: use /opt to install out-of-repo packages that you want multiple users to access.  use ~ if it's just you.
[23:38] <tortib> TJ-: it seems that everyone uses TAP for their tunnels i thought TUN was better?
[23:38] <tortib> http://openvpn.se/download.html
[23:39] <nannes> does ubuntu Precise use readahead for boot managing?
[23:40] <zykotick9> tortib: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP tap-tun seem like that same thing to me, different layers perhaps.
[23:40] <TJ-> tortib: TAP is level 2, TUN is level 3
[23:40] <zykotick9> s/that/the/
[23:40] <tortib> i heard TAP has some problems with TCP connections
[23:40] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: all running nvidia-settings tells me is that I don't appear to have the nvidia driver installed and that I need to edit my xconfigeration file
[23:41] <brightsparks> Would be quite happy if someone could tell me how to install my linux sources
[23:41] <zykotick9> tortib: i have a tap0 for my kvm VMs... good luck.
[23:42] <[twisti]> i guess thats not possible on a live-usb thingy, or am i missunderstanding how this works ?
[23:42] <sambagirl> if i remove the branding-ubuntu will that remove the ubuntu artwork?
[23:42] <tortib> zykotick9: why good luck?
[23:42] <TJ-> [twisti]: You can edit the linux command line from the initial boot menu of the liveCD, with I think the F6 Advanced key/menu
[23:43] <[twisti]> ill try that, ill have to walk over to it, bbiab
[23:44] <Robinux> how do I restart iptables to load the new settings?
[23:45] <TJ-> Robinux: You don't as such. iptables is just a program that injects rules into the kerne's netfilters tables... what you can do is clear all rules and reload a predefined set
[23:45] <zykotick9> tortib: "why good luck?" 'cause i don't use N-M, so i have zero idea how it works in ubuntu these days.  so, "good luck" ;)
[23:46] <battlehands> sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so /lib64/libc.so.6
[23:47] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  run gksudo jockey-gtk and use the repos to install the driver is what everyone has been telling you to do.
[23:47] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[23:49] <battlehands> when I attempt to run: sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so /lib64/libc.so.6 on my netbook it says "failed to create symbolink link"
[23:49] <battlehands> smybolic*
[23:49] <[twisti]> TJ-: no joy. i get to the screen under point 6 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode which shows just what that shows when i press F6. 'text' is not one of the options as you can see, and it doesnt let me manually enter anything
[23:49] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: when I run the nvidia installation program it tells me that the driver I want to install is already install and do I want to replace it with the one I am attempting to install( the same driver). Normally reinstalling it gives me full nvidia resolution options etc.
[23:50] <h22turbo> Robinux: iptables -F will flush all rules and start over everything
[23:50] <zykotick9> battlehands: i imagine it already exists "ls -l /lib64/libc.so.6" to confirm.
[23:50] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  sounds like you are using the .run drivers allready.. and basically they are not supported here.. you have been ignoreing everyones advice.
[23:50] <zykotick9> battlehands: this sort of linking is a bad idea generally.  seldom works as well.
[23:51] <tornado__> When is the next LTS version after 12.04 going to be released? What may be the new features?
[23:51] <zykotick9> tortib: ubuntu is on a strict schedule.  lts releases every 2 years, so 14.04 will be the next (yet to be named ;)
[23:51] <kostkon> tornado__, in 1.5 years time
[23:52] <TJ-> [twisti]: Yes it does... I think you press escape to lose that menu then you can directly edit/type to the kernel's command-line that is displayed at the bottom of the screen
[23:52] <TJ-> [twisti]: The line that starts: "Boot options"
[23:52] <zykotick9> tornado__: sorry, see above
[23:52] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: only ignoring in so far as I am not familiar with the advice you are giving me (not familiar with gksudo jockey-gtk). Anyway I'm pasting it into terminal now. But I don't want to mess up the system by trying the unfamilair if my usual run method works.
[23:53] <chriswere> okay guys, someone was trying to help me set up duel monitors and now he's left me high and dry with more bugs than when i started. I took a day off work for this, and I'll have to take another tomorrow.  set this up in 10 mins on windows and it's taken all day on ubuntu and i'm still nowhere. I hate the infinite bugs in this OS. How hard can it be to set up dual monitors if windows does it so easily. He made be upgrade my 
[23:53] <tornado__> Zykotick9 , Thankyou
[23:53] <phunyguy> 14 is the year, and 04 is the month, so April, 2014 will be the next LTS release
[23:53] <zykotick9> !tab > tornado__
[23:54] <zykotick9> tornado__: typing Z y k o t i c k 9 is a pain, use tab completion
[23:54] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  and how long have you been using the .run method?   jockey-gtk has been the preffered method for extra drivers since.. well.. several releases backk.
[23:54] <Dr_willis> the .run method is definatly NOT advised.
[23:55] <tornado__> You all just answered my very first IRC question...I'm a newbie-nube
[23:55]  * zykotick9 thinks using nvidia's .run installer is supported in #nvidia channel on freenode...
[23:55] <galups2000> as
[23:55] <chriswere> so no-one helping me again?
[23:56] <phunyguy> !patience | chriswere
[23:56] <TJ-> chriswere: Is it dual monitors on dual GPUs, or dual monitors on a single GPU?
[23:56] <Dr_willis> with my nvidia card systems. dual monitors takes me about 2 min.. and a reboot..
[23:57] <chriswere> TJ- dual monitors on two different gpus
[23:57] <[twisti]> TJ-: now i feel stupid, that worked, thank you
[23:57] <Dr_willis> thats including the nvidia drivers..
[23:57] <brightsparks> Dr_willis: well I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 today from ubuntu 11.10-where the run method worked just fine for me. Anyway I have done what you suggested and installed the driver or activated it using gksudo jockey-gtk. If I'm not happy with it I'll still try my "run" method. But thanks for your help anyway. But I still don't know how to install the linux sources which was my original question.
[23:57] <TJ-> [twisti]: no worries, it isn't obviously until you've done it once!
[23:58] <Dr_willis> brightsparks,  you dont need to.. and the .run method can cause problems in the long run.. do not use it as your first attempt..
[23:58] <nannes> How to change GDM background image ?
[23:58] <zykotick9> !wfm | brightsparks
[23:58] <nannes> Ubuntu Precise 12.04.1
[23:58] <phunyguy> nannes, is lightdm not the desktop manager vs GDM?
[23:58]  * Dr_willis wonders how you installed the drivers befor.. withhout knowing how to install the sources.. actually  you just need the kernel headers as far as i know.
[23:59] <nannes> phunyguy: No, I have gnome-shell, and I have GDM with it
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Login manager = Lightdm, or KDM, GDM, or others..
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: lightdm is the new default, gdm is available though if you desire (or any other for that matter)
[23:59] <phunyguy> nannes that is unsupported
[23:59] <nannes> -.-
[23:59] <nannes> are you kidding?
[23:59] <nannes> it's in the repos
[23:59] <Dr_willis> find the image its using.. and edit it. :) or edit the gdm.conf file perhaps.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: how is it not supported?
[23:59] <chriswere> ActionParsnip: I've installed the PPA like you said, it did nothing
[23:59] <uberTaco> nannes: old post, but I found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/change-gdm-theme-background-in-ubuntu.html
[23:59] <nannes> uberTaco: You said it, old post.