ailo | len-dt: If all went well, ppa:ailo.at/ustesting should soon include ubuntustudio-default-settings 0.38 | 09:24 |
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ailo | I'll upload it to the bzr branch, once I confirm it's fine and working | 09:24 |
ailo | Ah, I haven't added the toggle yet.. | 09:40 |
agondaku | i want to install ubuntu studio in windows to use dual boot like ubuntu but its not the same like the ubuntu ? | 09:54 |
ailo | agondaku: #ubuntustudio is the channel for user questions | 09:57 |
ailo | agondaku: Could we continue there? | 09:58 |
ailo | agondaku: #ubuntustudio-user | 09:58 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: You here? Why did you change the ubiquity slideshow bug to TODO? Don't tell me the bug came back again:( | 09:58 |
ailo | Sorry | 09:58 |
smartboyhw | It is #ubuntustudio | 09:58 |
ailo | Ah, yeah | 09:58 |
ailo | :) | 09:58 |
smartboyhw | ;) | 09:58 |
ailo | smartboyhw: 15:59 < len-dt> :P Our photo and publishing apps are still not there. The scroll bars are back in our slide show after having been gone for a month. | 09:59 |
smartboyhw | Grrr that is bad in any means | 09:59 |
ailo | micahg: I was just doing some changes to the ubuntustudio-default-settings package. Am I right in assuming I don't have the rights to commit? | 11:11 |
ailo | micahg: I need to create my own branch, and push that, as described here? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html#committing-the-fix | 11:12 |
ailo | len-dt: ^ | 11:13 |
len-dt | you have the right to push directly | 13:36 |
len-dt | ailo, you did to seeds right? | 13:36 |
smartboyhw | ailo: If you are in the dev team you can push directly... | 13:36 |
ailo | len-dt: This is not the seeds | 13:37 |
ailo | len-dt: I was not getting the same results as when working with the seeds | 13:38 |
ailo | smartboyhw: Yes, thank you. I am aware that me being a dev does grant me some rights | 13:38 |
smartboyhw | ailo: LOL | 13:38 |
smartboyhw | You deserve it anyway | 13:39 |
holstein | the phrasing of questions sometimes gets me going | 13:39 |
holstein | "why doesnt ubuntustudio support dual monitors?" | 13:40 |
holstein | how about.. "does ubuntustudio support dual montitors?" | 13:40 |
holstein | or, how do i set up dual monitors? | 13:40 |
smartboyhw | :) | 13:40 |
ailo | len-dt: Let me recheck the lp adress.. | 13:40 |
len-dt | ailo, there is a problem in the seeds still. The photography and publishing metas are created but not shipped for some reason. | 13:44 |
len-dt | I need to look at that. | 13:44 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: Add oil! (Add oil in HK = give support) | 13:45 |
ailo | len-dt: I was trying to commit to the ubuntu bzr repo | 13:46 |
len-dt | I commit to my branch then push | 13:46 |
smartboyhw | ailo: it should be easy | 13:47 |
len-dt | That is I branch to my machine, make changes, commit to my machine then push | 13:47 |
smartboyhw | If there are new files you bzr add or sth? | 13:47 |
smartboyhw | THen commit, then push:) | 13:48 |
len-dt | Once I have the branch on my machine, I do a pull if I think there may be other changes sinse I last did something | 13:48 |
ailo | smartboyhw: I only started using bzr yesterday | 13:48 |
smartboyhw | ailo: What the..........I use bzr at least twice.... | 13:48 |
len-dt | The learning curve | 13:48 |
smartboyhw | But ailo, welcome to bzr!!! | 13:49 |
ailo | Ok, I wasn't branching | 13:50 |
smartboyhw | ailo: Oh you didn't branch!? | 13:51 |
len-dt | ailo, the thing I found confusing is that you do the branch in a directory you create, then do any push or pull one directory up. | 13:55 |
len-dt | ailo, Why does jackd (not jackdbus) need X11 to start? | 14:10 |
ailo | len-dt: No idea. Sounds weird to me | 14:10 |
len-dt | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146788 | 14:10 |
len-dt | I have put together a very light system | 14:10 |
len-dt | no X, only 191M ram and small drive | 14:11 |
ailo | len-dt: Let me just double check a couple of things.. | 14:11 |
len-dt | I want to play with netjack and nama etc. | 14:11 |
ailo | len-dt: bzr init-repo ubuntustudio-default-settings | 14:11 |
len-dt | I have never used that command :) | 14:12 |
ailo | And inside the created dir, bzr branch <?> <custom_name> | 14:12 |
ailo | len-dt: So, what's your workflow then? | 14:12 |
smartboyhw | ailo: I used the init-repo | 14:12 |
len-dt | I have ~/software/studio/settings/ | 14:12 |
len-dt | then I go there do bzr branch and it creates a ubuntustudio dir in that with the branch in it. | 14:13 |
smartboyhw | I will do bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio in ~ for me | 14:14 |
len-dt | It could probably be done simpler easier though | 14:14 |
len-dt | once I make the changes I do a bzr add from the dir below debian | 14:15 |
len-dt | then a bzr commit | 14:15 |
len-dt | then a bzr push | 14:15 |
ailo | len-dt: No dch -i ? | 14:19 |
ailo | Updating the changelog.. | 14:19 |
len-dt | dch? | 14:19 |
ailo | len-dt: It's how you normally update the changelog for debian packages | 14:21 |
len-dt | That sounds easier than editing the changelog file. | 14:21 |
smartboyhw | lol | 14:21 |
ailo | len-dt: Not really. It's the same things basically | 14:22 |
smartboyhw | Found something interesting | 14:22 |
smartboyhw | Someone misspelt the ubuntustudio-forum.desktop | 14:22 |
smartboyhw | it is ubuntustudio-formum.desktop lol | 14:23 |
len-dt | That would be me... | 14:23 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: LOL | 14:23 |
ailo | len-dt: So, you edit the changelog to have the new version, and change UNRELEASED to quantal, before committing? | 14:26 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: So would you change the misspelt file name? LOL | 14:27 |
ailo | I can do that | 14:28 |
smartboyhw | ailo: You mean changing the filename or the changelog?? | 14:29 |
ailo | changing the misspelling | 14:29 |
smartboyhw | Ok please do then:) | 14:29 |
micahg | ailo: no, leave the changelog UNRELEASED until it's ready to be uploaded | 14:30 |
ailo | micahg: ok | 14:31 |
len-dt | micahg, is there a reason the two new metas are not included in the ISO? | 14:31 |
ailo | len-dt: If I change the name of the desktop starter, I guess a meny entry needs to be changed too? | 14:31 |
len-dt | Yes | 14:31 |
smartboyhw | ailo: Think so | 14:31 |
ailo | smartboyhw: I'm talking with len. Please.. | 14:32 |
ailo | len-dt: So, is that in the same package? | 14:33 |
len-dt | Yes | 14:33 |
len-dt | it is in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus | 14:33 |
ailo | len-dt: etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/xfce-applications.menu | 14:33 |
smartboyhw | I actually changed it already | 14:33 |
smartboyhw | lol;) | 14:33 |
smartboyhw | len-dt and ailo: I mean I changed the xfce-applications.menu and the filename lol | 14:34 |
len-dt | smartboyhw, I am not sure ailo is talking about my spelling mistake... | 14:35 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: I think he is | 14:35 |
smartboyhw | Since the spelling mistake can be found there also | 14:35 |
micahg | len-dt: hrm, they should be | 14:35 |
len-dt | Maybe it needs one more day micahg , | 14:36 |
smartboyhw | len-dt: In xfce-applications.menu line 378 | 14:36 |
smartboyhw | <Filename>ubuntustudio-forum.desktop</Filename> | 14:36 |
smartboyhw | So is it the spelling mistake or am I wrong? | 14:36 |
len-dt | smartboyhw, that is not important right now. | 14:36 |
smartboyhw | lol | 14:37 |
micahg | len-dt: no, if the ISO succeeds and the new metas aren't there, something's wrong | 14:37 |
len-dt | the link works and the spelling is not visible to the user. | 14:37 |
len-dt | micahg, I can add them to desktop, but graphics is not and it works. | 14:37 |
micahg | no, you shouldn't need to do that | 14:38 |
smartboyhw | More important is that we need to add the new metas in and the scrollbars fixed:) | 14:38 |
ailo | Ok, made the push | 14:41 |
smartboyhw | Good ailo:) | 14:41 |
ailo | smartboyhw: How is your work going on documentation? | 14:42 |
smartboyhw | Grrr I am too busy on school these days don't have time | 14:43 |
smartboyhw | What is the deadline excuse me? | 14:43 |
smartboyhw | *when is the deadline excuse me ailo? | 14:44 |
ailo | smartboyhw: No deadline. But, since you seem to have time to be in here, it just makes sense that you would have time to do some actual work. I don't mind you being here, and it's just good for you to learn stuff. If you really do want to learn, however, I recommend you focus on work, not chat | 14:44 |
* smartboyhw opens LibreOffice Writer to work on it | 14:45 | |
ailo | As a 14 year old, I know it's not easy to have the patience | 14:45 |
ailo | But, you don't need to do more than you feel like | 14:45 |
smartboyhw | :) | 14:45 |
smartboyhw | Now wait guys if I install ubuntustudio-publishing it should have scribus pre-installed right? | 14:51 |
smartboyhw | Please someone do tell me:) | 14:53 |
len-dt | Yes | 14:53 |
len-dt | I don't know that it would work with 12.04 | 14:54 |
len-dt | but it does with 12.10 | 14:54 |
len-dt | I tried it last night. | 14:54 |
smartboyhw | OK thanks then:) | 14:54 |
len-dt | ailo BTW, generic does not seem to add any battery life over lowlatency | 14:56 |
len-dt | My battery just has half the capacity as when I bought it. | 14:57 |
smartboyhw | Oh! | 14:58 |
micahg | len-dt: actually, quantal is a little harder on the battery than preccise | 15:07 |
knome | i hope "little harder" isn't half :P | 15:07 |
smartboyhw | ;P | 15:08 |
len-dt | micahg, I was talking about precise actually. | 15:10 |
len-dt | What I noticed is that the battery info says I have less than half the watthours from new | 15:11 |
ailo | len-dt: Do you test the packages before pushing? | 15:42 |
ailo | Or, the package in question | 15:42 |
ailo | I've been using the ppa, and also bzr builddeb to create a deb package. | 15:43 |
ailo | Problem with ppa is that UNRELEASED is not acceptable, so it needs to be edited | 15:44 |
ailo | len-dt: I think it would be wise to have some sort of routine for that anyway. I'm adding something to the dev docs about this | 15:46 |
ailo | len-dt: How did you test the battery life, btw? | 15:48 |
ailo | len-dt: I really think we should move the extra items in the menu. It's almost by chance that I see them | 15:50 |
ailo | And putting them between menus doesn't seem logical. I can't think of any better place than at the top of each workflow menu, and clearly separated from applications | 15:51 |
ailo | len-dt: I'd like to work on some of the other menus (besides audio), to have them follow the same logic with submenus. Audacity needs to be in a menu that explains it's not a video application. | 15:53 |
ailo | Other than that, I feel the menu is really nice | 15:53 |
ailo | len-dt: We could use the ubuntu studio icon for the extras, or a version of it | 15:54 |
len-dt | ailo, I can move the icons to the top of the menus. I used the package icon because it tells the user it installs things (I hope) | 16:05 |
len-dt | The US icon doesn't really do that | 16:06 |
len-dt | ailo, in the battery icon in systray there is an info selection. It has design capacity and real capacity. | 16:08 |
ailo | len-dt: Ok, I didn't know if you had put any thought on the icon. Didn't realize it was the package icon. | 16:08 |
len-dt | When I first got the Netbook I put ubuntunetbook on it and got about 3.5 hours out of it. Now I get 1.5 hours out of it. | 16:10 |
* len-dt thinks maybe a bit closer to 1.75 hours | 16:10 | |
len-dt | But it does follow pretty close what the batter info says. | 16:11 |
len-dt | ubuntu netbook was the last LTS so that gives an idea how old the battery is. | 16:11 |
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