[09:24] len-dt: If all went well, ppa:ailo.at/ustesting should soon include ubuntustudio-default-settings 0.38 [09:24] I'll upload it to the bzr branch, once I confirm it's fine and working [09:40] Ah, I haven't added the toggle yet.. [09:54] i want to install ubuntu studio in windows to use dual boot like ubuntu but its not the same like the ubuntu ? [09:57] agondaku: #ubuntustudio is the channel for user questions [09:58] agondaku: Could we continue there? [09:58] agondaku: #ubuntustudio-user [09:58] len-dt: You here? Why did you change the ubiquity slideshow bug to TODO? Don't tell me the bug came back again:( [09:58] Sorry [09:58] It is #ubuntustudio [09:58] Ah, yeah [09:58] :) [09:58] ;) [09:59] smartboyhw: 15:59 < len-dt> :P Our photo and publishing apps are still not there. The scroll bars are back in our slide show after having been gone for a month. [09:59] Grrr that is bad in any means [11:11] micahg: I was just doing some changes to the ubuntustudio-default-settings package. Am I right in assuming I don't have the rights to commit? [11:12] micahg: I need to create my own branch, and push that, as described here? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html#committing-the-fix [11:13] len-dt: ^ [13:36] you have the right to push directly [13:36] ailo, you did to seeds right? [13:36] ailo: If you are in the dev team you can push directly... [13:37] len-dt: This is not the seeds [13:38] len-dt: I was not getting the same results as when working with the seeds [13:38] smartboyhw: Yes, thank you. I am aware that me being a dev does grant me some rights [13:38] ailo: LOL [13:39] You deserve it anyway [13:39] the phrasing of questions sometimes gets me going [13:40] "why doesnt ubuntustudio support dual monitors?" [13:40] how about.. "does ubuntustudio support dual montitors?" [13:40] or, how do i set up dual monitors? [13:40] :) [13:40] len-dt: Let me recheck the lp adress.. [13:44] ailo, there is a problem in the seeds still. The photography and publishing metas are created but not shipped for some reason. [13:44] I need to look at that. [13:45] len-dt: Add oil! (Add oil in HK = give support) [13:46] len-dt: I was trying to commit to the ubuntu bzr repo [13:46] I commit to my branch then push [13:47] ailo: it should be easy [13:47] That is I branch to my machine, make changes, commit to my machine then push [13:47] If there are new files you bzr add or sth? [13:48] THen commit, then push:) [13:48] Once I have the branch on my machine, I do a pull if I think there may be other changes sinse I last did something [13:48] smartboyhw: I only started using bzr yesterday [13:48] ailo: What the..........I use bzr at least twice.... [13:48] The learning curve [13:49] But ailo, welcome to bzr!!! [13:50] Ok, I wasn't branching [13:51] ailo: Oh you didn't branch!? [13:55] ailo, the thing I found confusing is that you do the branch in a directory you create, then do any push or pull one directory up. [14:10] ailo, Why does jackd (not jackdbus) need X11 to start? [14:10] len-dt: No idea. Sounds weird to me [14:10] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146788 [14:10] I have put together a very light system [14:11] no X, only 191M ram and small drive [14:11] len-dt: Let me just double check a couple of things.. [14:11] I want to play with netjack and nama etc. [14:11] len-dt: bzr init-repo ubuntustudio-default-settings [14:12] I have never used that command :) [14:12] And inside the created dir, bzr branch [14:12] len-dt: So, what's your workflow then? [14:12] ailo: I used the init-repo [14:12] I have ~/software/studio/settings/ [14:13] then I go there do bzr branch and it creates a ubuntustudio dir in that with the branch in it. [14:14] I will do bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio in ~ for me [14:14] It could probably be done simpler easier though [14:15] once I make the changes I do a bzr add from the dir below debian [14:15] then a bzr commit [14:15] then a bzr push [14:19] len-dt: No dch -i ? [14:19] Updating the changelog.. [14:19] dch? [14:21] len-dt: It's how you normally update the changelog for debian packages [14:21] That sounds easier than editing the changelog file. [14:21] lol [14:22] len-dt: Not really. It's the same things basically [14:22] Found something interesting [14:22] Someone misspelt the ubuntustudio-forum.desktop [14:23] it is ubuntustudio-formum.desktop lol [14:23] That would be me... [14:23] len-dt: LOL [14:26] len-dt: So, you edit the changelog to have the new version, and change UNRELEASED to quantal, before committing? [14:27] len-dt: So would you change the misspelt file name? LOL [14:28] I can do that [14:29] ailo: You mean changing the filename or the changelog?? [14:29] changing the misspelling [14:29] Ok please do then:) [14:30] ailo: no, leave the changelog UNRELEASED until it's ready to be uploaded [14:31] micahg: ok [14:31] micahg, is there a reason the two new metas are not included in the ISO? [14:31] len-dt: If I change the name of the desktop starter, I guess a meny entry needs to be changed too? [14:31] Yes [14:31] ailo: Think so [14:32] smartboyhw: I'm talking with len. Please.. [14:33] len-dt: So, is that in the same package? [14:33] Yes [14:33] it is in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus [14:33] len-dt: etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/xfce-applications.menu [14:33] I actually changed it already [14:33] lol;) [14:34] len-dt and ailo: I mean I changed the xfce-applications.menu and the filename lol [14:35] smartboyhw, I am not sure ailo is talking about my spelling mistake... [14:35] len-dt: I think he is [14:35] Since the spelling mistake can be found there also [14:35] len-dt: hrm, they should be [14:36] Maybe it needs one more day micahg , [14:36] len-dt: In xfce-applications.menu line 378 [14:36] ubuntustudio-forum.desktop [14:36] So is it the spelling mistake or am I wrong? [14:36] smartboyhw, that is not important right now. [14:37] lol [14:37] len-dt: no, if the ISO succeeds and the new metas aren't there, something's wrong [14:37] the link works and the spelling is not visible to the user. [14:37] micahg, I can add them to desktop, but graphics is not and it works. [14:38] no, you shouldn't need to do that [14:38] More important is that we need to add the new metas in and the scrollbars fixed:) [14:41] Ok, made the push [14:41] Good ailo:) [14:42] smartboyhw: How is your work going on documentation? [14:43] Grrr I am too busy on school these days don't have time [14:43] What is the deadline excuse me? [14:44] *when is the deadline excuse me ailo? [14:44] smartboyhw: No deadline. But, since you seem to have time to be in here, it just makes sense that you would have time to do some actual work. I don't mind you being here, and it's just good for you to learn stuff. If you really do want to learn, however, I recommend you focus on work, not chat [14:45] * smartboyhw opens LibreOffice Writer to work on it [14:45] As a 14 year old, I know it's not easy to have the patience [14:45] But, you don't need to do more than you feel like [14:45] :) [14:51] Now wait guys if I install ubuntustudio-publishing it should have scribus pre-installed right? [14:53] Please someone do tell me:) [14:53] Yes [14:54] I don't know that it would work with 12.04 [14:54] but it does with 12.10 [14:54] I tried it last night. [14:54] OK thanks then:) [14:56] ailo BTW, generic does not seem to add any battery life over lowlatency [14:57] My battery just has half the capacity as when I bought it. [14:58] Oh! [15:07] len-dt: actually, quantal is a little harder on the battery than preccise [15:07] i hope "little harder" isn't half :P [15:08] ;P [15:10] micahg, I was talking about precise actually. [15:11] What I noticed is that the battery info says I have less than half the watthours from new [15:42] len-dt: Do you test the packages before pushing? [15:42] Or, the package in question [15:43] I've been using the ppa, and also bzr builddeb to create a deb package. [15:44] Problem with ppa is that UNRELEASED is not acceptable, so it needs to be edited [15:46] len-dt: I think it would be wise to have some sort of routine for that anyway. I'm adding something to the dev docs about this [15:48] len-dt: How did you test the battery life, btw? [15:50] len-dt: I really think we should move the extra items in the menu. It's almost by chance that I see them [15:51] And putting them between menus doesn't seem logical. I can't think of any better place than at the top of each workflow menu, and clearly separated from applications [15:53] len-dt: I'd like to work on some of the other menus (besides audio), to have them follow the same logic with submenus. Audacity needs to be in a menu that explains it's not a video application. [15:53] Other than that, I feel the menu is really nice [15:54] len-dt: We could use the ubuntu studio icon for the extras, or a version of it [16:05] ailo, I can move the icons to the top of the menus. I used the package icon because it tells the user it installs things (I hope) [16:06] The US icon doesn't really do that [16:08] ailo, in the battery icon in systray there is an info selection. It has design capacity and real capacity. [16:08] len-dt: Ok, I didn't know if you had put any thought on the icon. Didn't realize it was the package icon. [16:10] When I first got the Netbook I put ubuntunetbook on it and got about 3.5 hours out of it. Now I get 1.5 hours out of it. [16:10] * len-dt thinks maybe a bit closer to 1.75 hours [16:11] But it does follow pretty close what the batter info says. [16:11] ubuntu netbook was the last LTS so that gives an idea how old the battery is.