=== TheMaster is now known as Unit193 [05:34] Hey guys. I have unchecked ¨Spin down hard disk¨ in the power manager, but it still spins down every 10 seconds or so, please help :) [05:36] alveo3, well how can you tell if your HD is actually spinning down ? [05:36] I can hear it, the system freezes? [05:37] alveo3, running xubuntu i presume and what laptop is it ? [05:40] ? [05:40] I think I`ve got it, thanks [05:40] ok , mhm [05:40] alveo3, which drive is this? [05:41] Model or what? [05:41] yeah [05:41] Some WD stuff [05:41] hmmm [05:41] alveo3, how exactly did you solve it , enlighten us :) [05:41] some "green" wd stuff? [05:41] green? [05:42] How can I tell if it`s green? [05:42] ^i have seen HD motion protectors coloured green on thinkpads [05:42] hdparm -Ii /dev/sda [05:42] model could do as well :) [05:42] its an actual line of models [05:42] WDC WD3200BEVT [05:42] oh so green is a modle name :D [05:43] and the sticker on the drive itself has some green :) [05:43] model line actually [05:43] * apm1 facepalms [05:43] well thats a blue one [05:43] should not go to sleep on its own, unless it was configured to :) [05:44] alveo3, how did you solve your problem , please enlighten us :) [05:44] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6893114.html [05:44] I think I can handle it. [05:44] Using hdparm does not work [05:44] Something it`v overwriting it [05:45] there are 2 other places where you can configure that, bios and firmware [05:45] i doubt you have changed the firmware, how is the bios? [05:45] firmware how do you access the firmware settings ? [05:46] firmware as in EFI ? [05:46] see? that threads talks about the greens, i have experience with those as well :) [05:46] no, drive's firmware [05:46] but if it's not a green drive, you probably shouldn't care [05:47] also if you used laptop tools or something [05:47] (software settings outside gui) [05:47] which drive is yours apm1 ? [05:47] tweaking firmware on anything can be disastrous :( [05:48] in this case, its a must, only if you have a green drive [05:48] Artemis3, i have a WD myself but i am not aware of it's a alien green or blue :D [05:48] model [05:49] how do i find out , it's a 320GB though [05:49] you too? are you alveo3? im confused [05:49] nope [05:50] Artemis3, look , i didn't ask for help on anything , hell i don't ever care what kinda colour my drive has :D [05:51] Artemis3, but since you have risen my curiosity how do i find out what HD modle it is ? :D [05:51] *rose [05:52] sudo lshw -C disk [05:53] it says PCI (sysfs) ? [05:53] greens are usually 500ish or more [05:53] yes it takes a little [05:53] so [05:53] Artemis3, takes a little what ? time [05:54] Did some tweaks, I`ll see if it works. [05:54] yes [05:54] Is mine GREEN or not? [05:54] no [05:54] its blue [05:54] :P [05:54] why does WD take the pains to colour code stupid HD s :D [05:55] ask them, seagate also made a green line... [05:55] Artemis3, WDC WD3200BEVT [05:55] so you are sure you are not alveo3 ... [05:55] because the answer is identical [05:56] lol [05:56] What do you mean? [05:56] I don`t need the tweaks or what? [05:56] no [05:56] just software or bios settings [05:56] that`s what I did :) [05:56] holy piece of crap we both have the same HD :D [05:56] The bios is limited [05:57] brb [05:57] rebootin g [05:57] Artemis3, i now understand why you are confused :D [05:59] Artemis3, i assure you i am not alveo3 :D [06:00] ok === irq55 is now known as alveo3 [06:00] Hmm, That worked fine [06:00] Artemis3, but this has to be a damn coincidence for alveo3 and me to own the same damn kind of drive :D [06:01] could happen i guess... [06:01] apm1, do we have the same model? [06:01] * apm1 shakes alveo3 s hand for owning the exact same model as him :D [06:02] alveo3, what laptop is your's fitted in ? [06:02] :) [06:02] You first? [06:02] thinkpad x120e [06:02] AMD APU? [06:03] yup e350 [06:03] HP 635 [06:03] take a look and be proud: http://images.tecchannel.de/images/tecchannel/bdb/365706/890.jpg [06:03] hmm, apm1, does your screen brightness reset as well? [06:03] (or something) [06:05] alveo3, yes but only when i am on battery not on AC power plugged in [06:05] Running XFCE I guess? [06:05] With fglrx or OSS? [06:05] yup xubuntu so yes xfce power manager [06:05] fglrx [06:05] hmm [06:05] Mine always resets after reboot. [06:06] Did you do tweaks? [06:06] alveo3, resets as in ? [06:06] what resets [06:06] Maxes out [06:06] brightness yeah that is supposed to happen even on my mac that happens [06:06] Well, on windows doesn't :) [06:07] It sucks mate, I have to set it each time I boot [06:07] I want it to the minimum [06:07] alveo3, how dare you mention windows :D [06:07] :)) [06:07] apm1, can you control your volume using the volume keys on xfce? [06:07] installed xfce4-volumed, does not work [06:08] alveo3, i never pursed the screen brightness settings as i always feel comfortable with the max [06:08] the max kills me [06:09] alveo3, actually earlier volume keys worked but after installing rhytmbox they don't work , although the volume applett shows up and adjusts but nothing happens unless i actually drag the gui slider in the top pannell [06:10] what applet are you using? [06:10] alveo3, i can't work on anything but mac brightness :) [06:10] *max [06:10] alveo3, the stock xubuntu notification appletts [06:12] they didn't show up on my installation by default [06:12] alveo3, so you don't get any notification bubbless on the top right of the screen just below the panell ? [06:13] nothing. [06:13] alveo3, try exorcizing your laptop i think it's possessed :D [06:13] I've added 'mixer' applet, it still doesn't work [06:13] :)) [06:14] wtf , i have 15min battery left [06:14] * apm1 is too lazy to connect the power cord [06:14] in xubuntu volume should work without adding anything, unless your keys are not recognized, doubt installing things will fix that [06:15] perhaps a search for ubuntu + laptop model would help [06:15] Artemis3, but my keys are recognized why else would the applett work ? [06:16] you did say they worked but installed something and now doesn't? [06:16] perhaps an evil gnome app? [06:16] artemis3, does xubuntu come with volumed? [06:16] Artemis3, rhytumbox ever heard of it ? [06:16] have not checked, but you can control the volume without adding anything with a default install [06:17] Artemis3, exactly until you screw yourself by installing rhythmbox :D [06:17] ah yes, that evil gnome player :) you sure the volume is not affected elsewhere? in parole or something? [06:17] * apm1 removes rhthmbox :D [06:17] lol [06:19] could be the keys are controlling the volume of the wrong thing, but whatever [06:19] pulseaudio also allows separate volumes for each app [06:19] hmm , maybe [06:19] maybe pavucontrol? would show [06:20] * apm1 types alsamixer in terminal [06:20] brb i gotta connect to power [06:23] hmm " you never realize how great it feels unless you are so close to a power source " tron from the movie tron :D [06:24] Artemis3, nah nothing helpful in pavucontrol :( [06:27] * apm1 realizes nobody in #xubutu remembers tron :( [06:27] ^sorry off topic [06:34] i remember tron, i'm not glued to irc :) [06:35] Artemis3, sorry , i never meant to offend you :( [06:37] ^oh all is well i missed the smiley :D [07:39] does anyone know where thunderbird mail store the mail adress history? [09:26] hello [09:27] hi [09:28] so, i wanted to know, how do i build .deb files from a *.tar.gz package? [09:34] tar2deb [09:35] why do you wanna use a tar.gz file in the first place? [09:35] Deutopia: ok, thanks for that, but i cant do that. [09:35] here is the deal : [09:35] im trying to install some tools on a machine which has NO INTERNET access. [09:36] so im manually downloading and instaling the tools. [09:36] i get the tar,gz files and install them via ./configere, make\ [09:36] Erm, have you looked at Kerryx? [09:37] !offline [09:37] If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD [09:37] http://keryxproject.org/ [09:38] There is also apt-offline. [09:38] keryx runs on winddows & linux and it will downlaod all your pacakes & dependencies for you [09:39] packages & dependencies [09:39] ok, cool [09:39] i'll check that [09:40] and im sorry for all those horrible typos in the 3rd line above, i was typing in a hurry [09:41] mips1911: so, keryx will have to be installed in both the machines? target+source? [09:44] doomgiver: I have not used it but there is a portable version of the app so it does not need to be installed. It's simply dumps the files to a folder which can be on a USB stick which you then simply copy over to the /var/cache/apt folder on the target machine [09:44] Either way you only need it on the machine that will be downloading the files. [09:46] ok, goody! === doomgiver is now known as rabid_parrots === rabid_parrots is now known as Tankred === Tankred is now known as doomgiver [10:02] keryx needs python "2.6" and pygtk. [10:03] i have python 2.7.... why didnt i do 2.6 in the first place? [10:05] this is so darn tedious [10:05] it'll take 30 minutes to download. [10:05] well, off to lunch === IdleOne is now known as Guest92513 [11:22] ubottu: when i use the synaptic download package script, do i have to do it in another linux, or i can use it with a windows machine with mingw installed? [11:22] doomgiver: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:22] crap [11:24] I'm not sure if you can install synaptic on windows [11:25] i dont want to install [11:26] i just want to run a script (made by synaptic) on a windows machine (hopefully) that will download the required packages [11:26] sometimes, you guys think of network access as granted [11:27] i really hate that [11:27] if i need network access at a comp without any other ways i use a mobile broadband :P [11:28] here i am, surfing at the BLAZING speed of 155 kbps, and the shitty modem wont work on linux. well, fuck that, im gonna circumvent that SOB and download and install the packages by hand, like ol' linus torvalds did [11:28] 40 kbyte/s here :P [11:29] nice! [11:29] anything above 5kbps is well enough (; [11:29] ok, brb [11:30] Tm_T: in about 10 hours i'll have 2 kbyte/s :s [11:30] doomgiver: what kind of moden do you have? [12:10] been meaning to ask about this for a while, one day a while back the speaker icon vanished from my notifaction area. I added the pulse audio mixer manually.. but its not as good.. anyone know what happened? [12:21] anyone there? [12:21] hello? [12:22] hi [12:22] ah someone!:P [12:23] is there any GOOD documentation how to install rtl8188cus wireless adapter? [12:23] its hell! [14:02] hello [14:05] hi [14:10] does anyone know a n64 emulator for xubuntu? like project 64 for windows [14:10] ? [14:28] hi, something keeps reseting my xkb options (compose->caps lock to be exact) I don't know where to look [15:28] Makdaam: Where are you setting the compose key? [15:32] Makdaam: Try [15:33] setting the keyboard layout to 'Use System Defaults' in xfce4-keyboard-settings. Then add the keyboard indicator to the panel and setup everything from there. [15:40] hey, i cant seem to enable touchpad on my laptop after disabling it. [15:41] pcroque: I've got "Use system defaults" marked :S [15:43] Makdaam: I think you're not the only one with this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-plugin/+bug/548631 [15:43] Launchpad bug 548631 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) "xubuntu keyboard layout switch shortcuts are not remembered" [Medium,Fix released] [15:44] Makdaam: Maybe this will help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66096/how-to-set-up-xfce4-xkb-plugin-to-remember-settings-over-reboots [15:45] any guesses whats causing this? xubuntu12.04. Basically what i did: touchpad works -> connect mouse -> disable touchpad through settings-manager -> enable from the same place -> doesnt work [15:49] pcroque: I found that before and removed xfce4-xkb-plugin so it would stop resetting everything [15:49] pcroque: still doesn't work === Guest92513 is now known as IdleOne [15:50] Makdaam: I went through the same thing yesterday...check the box...remove the plugin...uncheck the box...install the plugin. [15:51] Seems to be working today...but...you never know about tomorrow. [15:51] [16:34] pcroque: doesn't work :/ [16:34] pcroque: I'm removing xfce4-xkb-plugin, xxkb etc. [16:34] pcroque: we'll se what happens [16:42] pcroque: can't make it work any way I try, probably going to switch to Arch or something with less automation on next reinstall [16:42] Makdaam: Too bad. Seems like there are two many layers all trying to set the keyboard options. [16:42] s/two/too [16:51] pcroque: Arch it is then... good bye Xubuntu Ø= and that werenæt the characters I tried to achieve either [16:53] Makdaam: Gøød lúçķ [16:53] Thanks, see you later === Cheapshot_ is now known as Cheapshot === null1023 is now known as null1024 [18:32] hi all. could anyone help to permanently delete /Desktop and /Downloads from my /home? [18:34] akis: no, but I can help you moving them somewhere out of the way [18:35] akis: just edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs [18:36] ok. what should i type here? [18:37] /dev/null might work? [18:37] akis: no [18:37] akis: but you can type some paths that are out of your way, or hidden [18:37] akis: for example, /home/akis/.desktop [18:37] or /home/username [18:37] knome: bad idea [18:38] TheSheep, why so? [18:38] knome: you don't want all the files from your home to be displayed on your desktop [18:38] TheSheep, ah, it works that way. [18:39] like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209488/ [18:39] akis: yeah [18:40] gimp is a bit annoying, the tool box shows on all workspaces :( [18:40] lets see if works [18:41] shuld i change dir name too? form /desktop to /.desktop? [18:41] recon_lap: there is a way to stop it from doing that, trying to remember (I did it on my desktop) [18:41] akis: you can, or you can just delete it [18:42] recon_lap: in the settings change the window hint from utility window to normal window [18:42] i tried both but nothing worked [18:42] recon_lap: it's in the 'window management' section [18:42] akis: what did you expect and what happened instead? [18:44] TheSheep: thx, that fixed it, would have taken forever to find that :) [18:44] i expected that /desktop does not appear again in my /home but it should have stayed asa hidden file. But it appeared again and there is also the hidden i made [18:45] akis: you logged out and back in? [18:46] no. i deleted and after some secs appeared again! [18:47] akis: the settings you changed will take effect after relogin, because there are still some apps running using the old settings [18:47] maybe just reloading xfdesktop would do it, too [18:47] oh. thats true. i am going to log out. is that enough or do i have to restart? [18:48] akis: logging out should be enough [18:49] ok. i come back in a couple of minutes. [18:59] well. i am running in 2 machines. in one we probably had a bingo. at the other i see now on my desktop /documents. why? [19:04] i fixed it in both. thank you for your advise. i hope it will work permanently. thank a lot! [19:41] Hello, I'm running on Xubuntu 12.04, and just installed Win XP but now my computer ignores my Xubuntu installation and just loads windows without giving me a choice. [19:43] !windows [19:43] For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents [19:43] Xifanie: sorry, wrong fact [19:43] !mbr [19:43] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [19:43] sweet, thanks [19:43] Xifanie: see the "Restore grub" link there [20:07] hi, can someone help me, please? [20:08] is this the right place to ask you some questions? [20:08] xubuntu452: just ask, if it's about xubuntu [20:09] of course it's about that [20:11] two days ago I bought an asus eepc x101ch with windows 7 [20:12] but this operating system is very slow [20:13] Do I really need Xubuntu to reinstall GRUB2? My bios is completely ignoring my USB key (even if I set it at highest priority, it reads it a bit then ignores the autorun), I don't have a CD burner, and I'm not even sure a Virtual Machine in WinXP would work. [20:14] you need some linux livecd/usb [20:14] yay, so I'm screwed -_- [20:15] Xifanie: the recommended way is to install windows first, and then install ubuntu -- it doesn't wipe everything from the disk like windows does [20:16] Xifanie: you cant get a USB to boot? you sure the usb is setup correctly ? [20:16] so i would like to install a linux system. which linux system do you recommend me to install in my netbook, xubuntu, lubuntu or ubuntu? [20:17] xubuntu452: considering where you are asking, the answer is obvious [20:17] well, it only lists my HD, CD/DVD drive, and removeable device. I set removeable device at 1st, but no matter what, my USB key flashes a bit then it gets past as if there were no autorun. Funny thing is that I used my key successfully before. Now I even made a clean reformat + Xubuntu Precise on it, and no good. [20:18] TheSheep ok, ma un netbook asus x101ch come regge xubuntu? [20:18] xubuntu452: as long as it fits the minimal specs on the page, it should work [20:18] but a netbook asus x101ch as holding xubuntu? [20:19] xubuntu452: sort of depends, whats important to you, fast and simple, or flashly and not so fast [20:20] Xifanie: can you remove hdd from the boot order? [20:20] I tried removing the other two, still no good [20:21] it told me something like "Insert a valid bootable device then press a key" [20:21] Xifanie: it's the same key you used to install? [20:21] yes [20:21] did you try a different usb port? [20:21] all of them [20:21] sometimes they only boot from one [20:21] :/ [20:22] like I said, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed, I don't get it, why would my Bios do that all of a sudden -_- [20:22] I think I'll try with another USB key but AFAIK this one works perfectly [20:23] Xifanie: you might try pressing f8 or f12 at boot, sometimes that displays a menu with a choice of boot devices [20:24] alright thanks, I'll try that [20:26] I am interested to make the netbook fast and lightweight. The activities that I normally carry out in pc are: surfing the internet with mozilla firefox, using some simple programs online (like evernote, plancake, nowdothis), reading a PDF file, sometimes skype, and especially using an Epson Stylus SX130. Xubuntu might be suitable for me? [20:33] Xifanie: in my older asus, there are 2 ways to boot from usb. 1) esc during boot, it then asks for boot device, list incl usb. 2) f2 into bios, boot settings has boot device priority AND hard disk drives, usb must be prioritized in BOTH if i recall correctly. [20:33] Xifanie: (terminology: boot from usb is not about "autorun") [20:34] xubuntu452: Yes...it might. Xubuntu works well on my netbook (Asus eeepc 1005ha). Why don't you try it out with a live CD (or live USB). [20:36] xubuntu452: I'd say go for xubuntu then. ubuntu might be a bit slow, but probably has better layout for small screens [20:37] xubuntu452: ubuntu would be quite a bit slower now that i think of it :) [20:38] Thank you TheSheep, worked like a charm! [20:40] Xifanie: excellent [20:41] recon_lap: ok! I'll try Xubuntu :) [20:42] pcroque: ok. First, a question: How do I change my nickname here in chat? so if I go out and then come back, you might recognize me. After: I could install xubuntu, while leaving windows? or I could create a partition and install it in xubuntu? In this case the system would be affected? [20:42] /nick newnick [20:42] thanks === xubuntu452 is now known as TheCountOfMonteC [20:45] xubuntu452: I would recommend trying the Live CD (or USB if you don't have a CD drive): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD [20:45] ok [20:45] I will use USB [20:46] TheCountOfMonteC: Good luck. [20:46] TheCountOfMonteC: I'd suggest dropping the "the" from the nic to, pain when using auto complete :) [20:47] no offense intended TheDrums or TheSheep ;) [20:47] great suggestion [20:53] also by dropping the 'the', the (thethethe lol) nick can not contain the entire name. therefore, I try to download xubuntu, and burn it to a usb. in short, I will give you my news thanks === TheCount is now known as Guest56890 [21:14] I'm downloading xubuntu. I hope I chose the right package [21:14] Guest56890, which one did you download then? [21:16] knome : the file name is 'xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386' [21:16] Guest56890, that sounds like the safest choice :) [21:16] knome: the alternative was a file called 64bit, but my system is a 32bit, so I chose the other [21:18] well! Now, I'm going to read about how to burn an iso on usb [21:18] Guest56890, there are both desktop and alternate for both, but desktop should work [21:18] ok [21:23] I'm not very familiar with linux and English. I think this is the right place to improve In both of these fields. unfortunately for you, you will see me often in the coming days. : D Now, I get disconnected and resume the installation work tomorrow. good night [21:23] thank u [21:23] no problem [21:23] see you later, and good luck with the installation [21:24] see you [21:25] but I could not change my nickname! patience, I'll try tomorrow. bye [21:56] Interestingly, Xubuntu seems more sluggish than Ubuntu under the Xubuntu-desktop package. [21:56] Any ideas what the cause for this could be? [21:58] phthano: how do you mean by Xubuntu-desktop package? do you mean you just changed gnome3 for xfce after installing ubuntu? [21:59] opps, i mean unity [22:00] recon_lap: Sort of. It's the Xubuntu tab under the login screen, not the XFCE. [22:00] When you install xubuntu-desktop as a package, it's that one with all the associated packages, not just XFCE. [22:01] Yeah. It seems much faster and I'm puzzled as to why. [22:02] These are VMs if it makes any difference. [22:03] recon_lap: Is there a fundamental difference in the way Xubuntu sets up the disks for I/O? [22:03] By default. [22:05] phthano: dont think so, the basics are the same between xubuntu and ubuntu, but Canonical have been chasing the money and forgotten about performance, people with money dont use old hardware [22:05] recon_lap: That's a good point. It makes me wonder if I have it misconfigured. [22:06] Canonical are definitely chasing the money, but I think that's okay if desktop Linux makes headway. [22:08] phthano: dont know enough to really help, not really sure what your saying anyway. that xubuntu is mis-configured or that ubuntu is mis-configured [22:08] What is the best way to move my xfce settings from one machine to another? [22:08] recon_lap: Thanks anyway. [22:09] KombuchaKip: not sure, but most of your setting should be in hidden files in you home directory [22:10] recon_lap: ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/* ? [22:12] KombuchaKip: Yes, go to your home folder and hit "Ctrl-H" to show your hidden folders. [22:12] phthano: Ok, thanks. [22:13] KombuchaKip: It's also a great way to move application settings between machines. [22:13] phthano: Yes, thanks. [22:20] phthano: Where is the config that contains all my panel settings, widget placement, etc? [22:21] KombuchaKip: Let me figure that out, just a moment. [22:21] phthano: I do remember some saying that installing ubuntu and then changing to xfce is not optimal. [22:22] recon_lap: But it's actually faster that way. [22:22] recon_lap: Dunno. [22:22] KombuchaKip: I think it is .config [22:22] "/home/.config/" [22:23] phthano: That's a big folder for many applications. Do you know where it is specifically? [22:23] KombuchaKip: ~/home/.config/xfce4/panel or something similar [22:24] On 12.04, for me, literally /home/phthano/.config/xfce4/panel [22:24] phthano: lol, guess thats what I get for believing what i read on the internet :) [22:25] phthano: I tried that and it didn't update the panel. [22:25] recon_lap: There is probably a good reason they said that and it just isn't anecdotally true in my case. [22:25] KombuchaKip: Oh, interesting. Did you log in and out? [22:27] phthano: Yes. I wasn't logged in when I copied the files over sftp. [22:27] phthano, xubuntu doesn't seem slower to me, or do you mean time it takes to load the desktop? There is a bug about that for 12.04, didn't happen to me on 3 machines tho. [22:27] Artemis3: No, I mean responsiveness. [22:28] phthano, such as? [22:28] Artemis3: Menus are slower to load, applications are slower to open. [22:28] Artemis3: Navigating file paths are slower. [22:29] phthano, ok, this is against a pure xfce, or against unity? [22:29] Artemis3: Against Unity. [22:29] hmmmm navigating file paths slower... [22:29] KombuchaKip: http://superuser.com/questions/178310/in-what-files-in-the-home-dir-does-xfce-store-the-user-config-data [22:29] Artemis3: I know, right? It's odd. [22:29] did you try launching nautilus? [22:29] phthano: Thank you. [22:29] Artemis3: Yes, I am launching Nautilus. [22:29] Artemis3: I am using that. [22:29] so same nautilus, and it is slower in xubuntu? [22:30] perhaps... [22:30] Artemis3: I believe I have figured it out. [22:30] see if in your process you hace a thumblerd taking cpu [22:30] Artemis3: It think I just didn't have the video drivers enabled. [22:30] have [22:31] thumblerd is quite the buggy thing, specially if you open a folder where you are downloading a video [22:31] but i don't know if nautilus uses it or it is thunar only? [22:32] thumblerd makes thumbnails for thunar, but maybe it keeps running all the time [22:32] Artemis3: It was the drivers, but additionally, I did not have as much RAM allocated as my Unity box. [22:32]