[03:24] <battlehands> how do I run a green matlab file
[03:30] <kanliot> please ask in ##matlab
[05:59] <Ascavasaion> Good morning, I have returned with more questions.  Why do I keep getting flash player out of date errors in Chromium when I have just run an update and flashplayer-installer was updated?
[06:05] <silverarrow> hi
[06:05] <silverarrow> Ascavasaion, not sure, is it from a specific site you get the message?
[06:05] <Ascavasaion> Hello.
[06:06] <Ascavasaion> silverarrow: Random sites.
[06:06] <silverarrow> there is the issue of adobe deciding not to make a linux version anymore
[06:06] <bioterror> I wish they would stop making any versions at all
[06:06] <silverarrow> as long as it works i would not worry too much,
[06:06] <bioterror> html5 all the way
[06:06] <bioterror> thanks
[06:07] <silverarrow> not likely in years though
[06:07] <silverarrow> BBC, local TV here, their new pod and net tv player, all flash
[06:08] <silverarrow> actually almost all news and tv is flash
[06:08] <bioterror> dont jinx it, or it will be silverlight!
[06:08] <silverarrow> not sure why html5 isn`t more widely used
[06:08] <bioterror> should I tell you why
[06:08] <silverarrow> yes
[06:08] <bioterror> it costs money to invest DRM stuff into flash
[06:09] <bioterror> and they want to use it then as long as they can
[06:09] <bioterror> it takes a little longer to adopt new techniques
[06:09] <silverarrow> youtube are trying
[06:09] <silverarrow> working on some hardwere
[06:10] <silverarrow> hardware I have*
[06:10] <silverarrow> and so far not as backwards compatible as claimed
[06:12] <silverarrow> I know a large tv channel here is wroking on a html5 player
[06:12] <bioterror> good for them
[06:13] <silverarrow> however, they went for flash because the html5 had too many issues
[06:13] <silverarrow> they are still on the html 5 development
[06:14] <silverarrow> Ascavasaion, some sites don`t recognize the linux version properly and think it is an older version
[06:18] <kanliot> word
[06:20] <silverarrow> the tv adobe flash version is still beta
[06:20] <silverarrow> the older is still windows media player or silverlight based
[06:20] <silverarrow> *web tv I mean
[06:24] <silverarrow> youtube seems to be on the case though
[06:29] <Ascavasaion> I havebeen told that 11.04 is soon to come to the end of its life... is therr a way to update directly to 12.04 instead of first going to 11.10 and then only to 12.04?
[06:30] <bioterror> sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[06:31] <Ascavasaion> bioterror: Will that skip 11.10?
[06:31] <bioterror> but update manager should notify that you have a new LTS release waiting
[06:32] <Ascavasaion> bioterror: It does not, that is why I am asking.  I am running 11.04 and update-manager is set to emind me of LTS only.  It does not tel me about 12.04.
[06:33] <bioterror> try that command
[06:33] <bioterror> it will tell you versions
[06:34] <bioterror> but I've noticed that the "ubuntu" way of updating releases is "reinstall" :---D
[06:35] <Ascavasaion> "no new release found"
[06:35] <bioterror> what if you use -d
[06:36] <Ascavasaion> Still no release available
[06:36] <Ascavasaion> Could it be that my local mirror just does not have 12.04 available?
[06:37] <bioterror> possible?
[06:37] <Ascavasaion> I am probably totally off the mark.
[06:37] <Ascavasaion> Let me try another local mirror then.
[06:40] <kanliot> lubuntu 11.04?
[06:40] <bioterror> man it was ugly :-)
[06:40] <Ascavasaion> Yes, I am running 11.04 now.
[06:40] <bioterror> oooh my eyes!
[06:41] <kanliot> This release is considered as a «stable beta », a result that could be a final and stable release if we was included in the Ubuntu family.
[06:41] <kanliot> lol @ we was
[06:43] <Ascavasaion> hehe
[06:43] <bioterror> 11.10 is still the best looking one
[06:44] <kanliot> actually lemme apologize bad english isn't funny unless you are a crude person
[06:44] <Ascavasaion> I laughed because you laughed at your own English.
[06:48] <Ascavasaion> Naaah, changing mirror never gave me a dist upgrade.
[06:49] <kanliot> http://24.media.tumblr.com/BUFg4AYaP3hn47x70CGs8Sfd_500.jpg  bad english
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> Seems like an aweful waste of time, and my monthly cap, to first update to 11.10 and then to 12.04.  Doube the downloading.
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> Double
[06:51] <Ascavasaion> People that spell like that, especially in their mother tongue, should maybe not be allowed to procreate :)
[06:51] <kanliot> or run ubuntu
[07:13] <Ascavasaion> Running a 571Mb update from 11.04 to 11.10  HOw pathetic.  What a waste.
[08:15] <Ascavasaion> If I am doign a dist upgrade... If it is still downloading can I stop it and continue later on?  Or will it start from the beginning again?  Or will it break my system?
[10:25] <Pzat> "logoff" of lxsession-logoff  from the normal shutdown/logoff menu, seems to reboot my computer when i select logoff
[10:26] <silverarrow> I see
[10:27] <silverarrow> not sure how to trouble shoot that
[10:28] <Pzat> i dont think i should reinstall it, would probly end up reinstalling, but i think i saw a deb group saying somethings were wrong with lxsession-logoff
[10:28] <Pzat> so, i wasnt sure if this was happening to everyone using it
[10:29] <silverarrow> no, there should be a fix for it
[10:29] <silverarrow> a much simpler one
[10:29] <silverarrow> mine works, but I am on ppc
[10:30] <Pzat> anyway, it reboots, and a bios screen comes up complaining about a overflow something or rather, so maybe its something my hardware and bios isnt handling well
[10:31] <silverarrow> you have multiple users?
[10:31] <Pzat> i have a second user i added, but not used
[10:31] <silverarrow> do you have swap at all?
[10:31] <Pzat> yes
[10:31] <silverarrow> recommended amount is one and a half time as large as ram
[10:32] <silverarrow> but installer usually takes care of it
[10:32] <Pzat> ram = 3 gb, swap = 1gb, thought i read that it wouldnt even be needed really but do 1 gb anyway
[10:33] <Pzat> and my swap never goes beyond 0 use
[10:33] <Pzat> got a puter with 7 partitions, i had to manually set it up
[10:34] <Pzat> but i think i used a old swap from ubunutu that i use to have installed from version 8.04
[10:34] <Ascavasaion> Will update from 11.10 to 12.04 be as large a download as 11.04 to 11.10?
[10:35] <silverarrow> not sure how it works really, but swap is fickely when you don`t use defalut setup
[10:35] <Ascavasaion> Oh, okay, darn.  571Mb is a big download for someone on capped account.
[10:35] <silverarrow> you need a generous swap for login, logout, and dormant mode
[10:36] <Ascavasaion> and then to have to do it again to update to next LTS is hectic.
[10:36] <silverarrow> does suspend and hibernate work?
[10:36] <silverarrow> Ascavasaion, yes
[10:36] <Pzat> i wont use those, they always buggy anytime ive tried them in the last 12 years
[10:36] <Ascavasaion> silverarrow: :(
[10:37] <Pzat> odd, this keyboard doesnt even have those buttons
[10:37] <silverarrow> pzat, they should be better by now, mine works painlessly for the first time ever !!
[10:37] <silverarrow> i`m in 12.04
[10:38] <silverarrow> on an old ibook g4
[10:38] <Pzat> me too, lubuntu, is sweet compared to ubuntu 8.04, and i got it all customized now.
[10:39] <Pzat> i got 2 copies of mate my laptop, since the OSs keep suiciding, and roomys win-7-starter died, so put mate on her laptop too
[10:40] <silverarrow> Ascavasaion, it is a problem?
[10:41] <Pzat> honestly, i put lubuntu on my laptop first, but it suicided too, and on roomys, i think lubuntu doesnt lke acer aspire-one netbooks
[10:42] <silverarrow> it should though
[10:42] <silverarrow> how do the die then?
[10:42] <silverarrow> will not boot or freeze or something?
[10:43] <Pzat> mine died on a reboot or something, her it didnt want to install on, coulda been a bad flash, but i redid it a secondtime, was better, but still wouldnt install
[10:43] <Pzat> (..on hers)
[10:44] <silverarrow> I  have found flash a bit fickely too
[10:44] <silverarrow> I go for CD when possible
[10:44] <silverarrow> or cd
[10:44] <silverarrow> DVD*
[10:44] <Pzat> for a long time i was stuck it not booting, so i just overwrote it finally, - ya ditto on flash being odd as times
[10:45] <Pzat> hehe, netbook.. usb cd, i just dont have one atm
[10:45] <silverarrow> flash need work sometimes, but mostly no fuzz
[10:45] <silverarrow> low cpu, then flash is major fuzz
[10:46] <Pzat> the netbook, suprisingly nice, at about half the speed and half the memory of my dsktop
[10:47] <silverarrow> it does depend a lot upon setup and os
[10:47] <Cheapshot> what netbook model is that Pzat
[10:48] <silverarrow> linux usually boots fast and cleanly on notbooks in my experience
[10:48] <Cheapshot> Im running lubuntu on my acer aspire netbook
[10:48] <Pzat> cheapshot, its acer aspire-one netbook, smallest thing ive seen in awhile
[10:49] <silverarrow> those without cd rom?
[10:49] <silverarrow> ultrabook
[10:49] <Cheapshot> Pzat,  Only problems i've encountered with my is that my touchpad doesnt act as touchpad so it wont turn off when typing.
[10:51] <Pzat> there might be a key combo that disables it when your not using-cheapshot mines got it as FN-F7? dang mine eyes dont work today
[10:52] <Cheapshot> yeah ther is but it doesnt work, the system just thinks its a regular mouse
[10:52] <silverarrow> Cheapshot, and there is no settings that help?
[10:52] <Pzat> might be able to find the file that lets you rebind, or add a keybind. but donno what is is on that version
[10:53] <Cheapshot> hehe, well i've been trying to find a solution for the past 3  years but nothing :) I'm not alone with the problem
[10:53] <Pzat> been learning alot about lubuntu, binding up like windows
[10:55] <Pzat> i installed ubuntu and it had the look and feel of a mac, i that screen is why i stayed away from anything apple/mac
[11:00] <silverarrow> Cheapshot, must be a driver issue then?
[11:01] <Cheapshot> silverarrow, Kernel issue
[11:01] <Cheapshot> silverarrow, It worked on some really old kernel but to old for me to use
[11:02] <silverarrow> that sounds like it needs new compiling ?
[11:03] <silverarrow> Cheapshot, have they figured out any fixes? three years is a long time
[11:04] <Cheapshot> silverarrow, Well i check from time to time if anyone has figured out but I gues its pretty much a forgotten by now, and i've learned to live with it
[11:05] <silverarrow> not very nice though
[11:05] <silverarrow> you might file a bug on each release
[11:05] <silverarrow> it does help, even if it seems like futile
[11:13] <Pzat> i just checked, i have a 6.1gb swap
[11:14] <Deutopia> damn
[11:14] <Deutopia> i dont even have a swap
[11:14] <Pzat> its from ubuntu 8.04, i donno is this is default or not
[11:15] <Deutopia> im obviously tired and need to watch my language
[11:15] <silverarrow> huge swap
[11:15] <Pzat> i also found anohter 31 gb partition thats never been formated, whoot more space
[11:16] <silverarrow> unless you are 64 bit
[11:16] <Cheapshot> Pzat,  thats nothing I just found a new hard drive from my desktop thats been disable :) a nice 250gb of free space
[11:17] <silverarrow> Deutopia, can`t live without swap?
[11:17] <Pzat> lol, gratz, it like chrstmas today
[11:18] <Pzat> ok i have a swap partition, not sure how to confirm my os is using it
[11:19] <silverarrow> htop
[11:20] <silverarrow> push the computer a bit and it always uses some swap
[11:20] <silverarrow> even if there is plenty of ram
[11:20] <silverarrow> Pzat, you have htop?
[11:21] <Pzat> i think so
[11:21] <Pzat> oh, guess i dont, its on the netbook
[11:23] <silverarrow> I have swap three times ram
[11:25] <Pzat> ok, looks like im using it now, - sudo swapon -s
[13:10] <snele> hi guys. I installed lubuntu 12.04 on acer netbook with atom processor. Everything works great. Only restart/reboot doesn't work. Restart/reboot ends up to blank/black screen and stays there.
[13:10] <snele> Any ideas what is going wrong?
[13:21] <proko7> Hello there !
[13:22] <proko7> Can someone help me with my user profile picture? Can't get to set it !
[13:26] <proko7> No one awake?
[13:56] <kanliot> snele, after pressing restart
[13:56] <kanliot> press control+alt+f1 and see if there's an error message
[13:56] <kanliot> something linuxy
[15:10] <bman_> hey guys. sorry to bother you with trivial things this early in the day.. my microphone in my asus 1018pb is stuck on mute. i went into alsamixer and turned it back on to to no avail.. apparently im not the only one who has dealt with this.  my google results though hopeful havent solved anything..
[15:10] <bman_> im runnin the newest lubuntu
[15:11] <silverarrow> hi
[15:11] <silverarrow> getting late here
[15:11] <silverarrow> you are on a regular pc?
[15:12] <silverarrow> not mac I mean
[15:12] <silverarrow> bman_, it is often a bit quirky, but simple
[15:13] <silverarrow> bman_, have you right clicked on the taskbar loudspeaker icon ?
[15:13] <bman_> i am right now ive digged within this settings what are you suggesting
[15:14] <silverarrow> first double check the icon on the task bar
[15:14] <silverarrow> right click
[15:14] <silverarrow> or double finger click, how ever your mouse behaves
[15:15] <bman_> k
[15:15] <silverarrow> it is checked off for mute or not?
[15:15] <bman_> that loads up alsamixer and mute is......
[15:15] <silverarrow> do you get alsamixer there?
[15:16] <silverarrow> I have to launch it is terminal ? weird, but I am on a ppc
[15:16] <silverarrow> bman_, ok, just one mouse pad click on the loudspeaker icon?
[15:16] <bman_> mute is off i also previously disabled the auto mute feature and the setting has since stuck
[15:17] <silverarrow> you are familiar with alsamixer?
[15:17] <bman_> one click just brings up volume rocker and mute box
[15:17] <bman_> as of last night yes
[15:17] <silverarrow> ok,
[15:18] <bman_> hmm ill be back im sensing a restart .  if not ill talkt to you guys later thanks for helping silverarrow much appreciated
[15:19] <silverarrow> first graph in alsamixer "master" is on high ?
[15:19] <silverarrow> we can sort this out
[15:19] <silverarrow> it is typical on new install
[15:19] <silverarrow> go for restart :-)
[16:17] <tuxhat> hey my lxde not getting dual head
[16:17] <tuxhat> shows a blank screen on the second monitor with a X cursor
[16:18] <tuxhat> hello
[16:18] <tuxhat> oi
[16:18] <tuxhat> fjdskj
[16:18] <holstein> tuxhat: i would run arandr
[16:18] <tuxhat> good lord
[16:18] <tuxhat> that is not the idea man
[16:18] <tuxhat> i use arandr lxrandr
[16:18] <tuxhat> blah blah blah
[16:19] <tuxhat> doesn't do shit all nothing
[16:19] <holstein> tuxhat: cool.. i'll wait patiently for you to elaborate
[16:19] <holstein> tuxhat: try and keep the language "family friendly" please :)
[16:19] <tuxhat> well in arandr it shows my dvi
[16:19] <tuxhat> but i can't "active" it
[16:20] <tuxhat> what is wrong with lxde ?
[16:20] <tuxhat> all other "DE" my dual head works
[16:20] <tuxhat> but lxde ?
[16:20] <tuxhat> is lx a DE LULZ
[16:20] <holstein> tuxhat: i usually go with the path of least resistance, and just use what works
[16:20] <tuxhat> i highly doubt that
[16:20] <holstein> tuxhat: i have had not issues getting dual head to work with LXDE
[16:21] <tuxhat> so use nvidia + seperate screen setting
[16:21] <tuxhat> and it work ?
[16:21] <holstein> tuxhat: not sure what you mean by "use nvidia".. but i would try and use the same driver you were using in the other DE's... the driver that is supporting the functionality you are seeking
[16:22] <tuxhat> it works with xinerama or twinview but my panel is stretch out and my wallpaper as well and its being detected as one monitor instead of 2 seperate ones
[16:23] <tuxhat> i mean like i have my nvidia settings set up to seperate views
[16:23] <holstein> tuxhat: so, whats the question? is this about the wallpaper stretching?
[16:23] <tuxhat> no
[16:23] <tuxhat> i dont want xinerama or twinview
[16:23] <tuxhat> i want "SEPERATE" view
[16:23] <tuxhat> 1680x1050 on my dvi and 1360x768 on my crt
[16:24] <holstein> tuxhat: i literally open the arandr gui and just set it... what happens when you do that?
[16:24] <tuxhat> arandr shows only one monitor crt
[16:24] <holstein> tuxhat: maybe you can take a picture to better explain your situation
[16:24] <tuxhat> dvi i can't active it
[16:24] <tuxhat> hmm
[16:25] <tuxhat> well u probalby wont like that i am using gentoo
[16:25] <tuxhat> i dont know where to go for lxde
[16:25] <tuxhat> nobody helps me :(
[16:25] <holstein> tuxhat: nobody helps you?
[16:25] <tuxhat> well i know ur trying
[16:25] <holstein> tuxhat: i am trying.. though, you should actually try lubuntu
[16:26] <tuxhat> why
[16:26] <holstein> you can fire it up live, and see how the tools work
[16:26] <tuxhat> i have lxde-meta
[16:26] <holstein> tuxhat: you can then learn about how to get that functionality in gentoo if it works as expected
[16:26] <tuxhat> why would i need a debian base
[16:26] <holstein> tuxhat: you dont *need* dual monitors
[16:26] <tuxhat> doesnt matter lxde is lxde
[16:26] <holstein> im suggesting you try some lubuntu live setup to learn
[16:26] <tuxhat> to learn what
[16:26] <holstein> tuxhat: its a different version
[16:27] <tuxhat> hmm
[16:27] <holstein> tuxhat: to learn how to get support for the functionality you seek
[16:27] <tuxhat> but i dont get it
[16:27] <tuxhat> i have lxde
[16:27] <tuxhat> i am using it now
[16:27] <holstein> tuxhat: its a live CD.. its easy.. plus, you can communicate with the large ubuntu support base about your hardware
[16:27] <tuxhat> why do i need a ubuntu base ?
[16:27] <holstein> tuxhat: using what? lubuntu?
[16:27] <tuxhat> no
[16:27] <tuxhat> i dont need ubuntu
[16:28] <holstein> tuxhat: you dont need it.. its just a troubleshooting suggestion
[16:28] <tuxhat> what i need is to get lxde sorted
[16:28] <tuxhat> i need help
[16:28] <holstein> tuxhat: you can just run it live to test, and to learn, and to utilized the ubuntu support base
[16:28] <tuxhat> i will get the same problem with ubuntu
[16:28] <holstein> tuxhat: correct, but i and others in the community will be able to actually help you
[16:28] <tuxhat> doesnt matter what base i use its lxde within
[16:29] <tuxhat> so because i use gentoo u wont help me ?
[16:29] <tuxhat> thats sad
[16:29] <holstein> tuxhat: i dont use gentoo
[16:29] <tuxhat> doesnt matter its all unix shell mate
[16:29] <holstein> tuxhat: im offering a scenario where you can use the lubuntu CD ive
[16:29] <tuxhat> just different setting thats all
[16:29] <holstein> tuxhat: i am not going to be able to help you with gentoo
[16:29] <tuxhat> alright this is a waste of time
[16:29] <holstein> tuxhat: im not being rude, or asking you to leave
[16:29] <tuxhat> bye
[16:29] <holstein> im just saying, i cant help you with gentoo
[16:30] <holstein> im not a gentoo user
[16:30] <holstein> never used it
[16:30] <tuxhat> doesnt matter
[16:30] <tuxhat> its LXDE
[16:30] <tuxhat> the DE
[16:30] <tuxhat> DE
[16:30] <holstein> you fire up a live CD and i and others can help easier
[16:30] <tuxhat> DE
[16:30] <tuxhat> not the system
[16:30] <holstein> tuxhat: sure. but its a differt version
[16:30] <tuxhat> ubuntu is crap mate
[16:30] <tuxhat> i hate it
[16:30] <tuxhat> i wont use it
[16:30] <holstein> tuxhat: sure, and thats your opinion, and valide
[16:30] <holstein> tuxhat: but, we both know why you are here.. for the support
[16:30] <tuxhat> extactly now on topic about lxde dual head
[16:30] <holstein> and, you can get that by using the live CD
[16:31] <tuxhat> ok lets pretend i am using lubuntu
[16:31] <tuxhat> la la la
[16:31] <tuxhat> LULZ
[16:31] <tuxhat> ok my dual head not working
[16:31] <tuxhat> help ?
[16:31] <holstein> sure... maybe you want to take a picture to help me understand?
[16:32] <holstein> tuxhat: are you using the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos?
[16:32] <tuxhat> yes i am using the "binary" nvidia driver 304
[16:32] <tuxhat> not open source
[16:33] <holstein> tuxhat: from the ubuntu repos? of the nvidia site?
[16:33] <tuxhat> its the same drivers ;)
[16:33] <holstein> tuxhat: OK
[16:33] <tuxhat> gentoo, debian or arch or whatever
[16:33] <tuxhat> its all the same
[16:33] <tuxhat> 304 version
[16:33] <tuxhat> duh
[16:33] <tuxhat> ur not that smart eh
[16:34] <holstein> tuxhat: cool.. maybe you should try the gentoo mailing list?
[16:34] <holstein> tuxhat: maybe the maing LXDE ones
[16:34] <tuxhat> maybe lxde should shape up
[16:34] <tuxhat> i am gonna go back to xfce
[16:34] <tuxhat> it works
[16:34] <tuxhat> screw lxde
[16:34] <holstein> tuxhat: enjoy!
[19:12] <zorgborg> hi guys, anyway to stop my screen locking after about a minute even though lock screen settings are at after 20mins (still locks even when not set to lock)?
[19:13] <zorgborg> (ah forgot this is only when i close my laptop lid)
[19:15] <zorgborg> actually crap this is just me forgetting my power management settings, problem solved!
[19:16] <bioterror> :D
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> that was fast :p
[19:27] <bioterror> we solve problems only with out presence
[19:27] <bioterror> with our
[19:28] <zleap> is anyone having issues printing from libreoffice calc under lubuntu
[19:28] <zleap> writer is fine,  calc seems to refuse to print