[08:15] <ondergetekende> I think I've found a bug in how dhcp and dns work on mixed interfaces (wlan vs eth), but I'm not sure which package to report it to.
[08:15] <ondergetekende> Can anyone help me to select an appropriate package?
[08:30] <os_> hi how do i upgrade to Quantal Quetzal?
[08:30] <enyc> os_: should discuss 12.10 on here, etc.
[08:31] <os_> 12.10 =? Quantal Quetza
[08:32] <os_> or not ?
[08:32] <os_> "The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal."
[08:33] <ondergetekende> os_ the best way is to try a clean install from a beta install medium; that way you won't get bitten by upgrade bugs.
[08:34] <ondergetekende> The alternative is "update-manager -d"
[08:35] <os_> ok thanks ...i have made it
[09:54] <JEEB> hmm, am I correct to see that no-one has as of yet reported a problem with the quantal's nouveau with kepler GPUs? I got the current daily iso on saturday and tried to boot it on my new box (for badblocks usage), and I seem to have hit https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/17/504
[10:52] <punisher> hello
[10:53] <punisher> i have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my intel Z670 (with gma600) tablet. ubuntu 12.04 works but every kernel newer than 3.2 won't boot. screen goes black short after grub
[10:54] <punisher> i find a few people with the same problem but no solution. anyone an idea ?
[11:25] <pwuertz> punisher: try the acpi=off flag, or remove the "quiet" boot flag.. maybe this will provide some information for identifying the problem
[11:36] <punisher> i removed the quiet flag. i see text (very fast for a some time) and than the screen goes black
[11:46] <punisher> i also tried "text" and some other debug boot options but without any other result
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:00] <rigo_> hi
[13:00] <BluesKaj> hi
[13:01] <rigo_> so i plan to try out the precise netinstall, and the mythtvbuntu-live.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> rigo_, so you have a tv tuner card
[13:03] <rigo_> it will arrive in the following days.
[13:03] <rigo_> i installed on xbmc eden the mythbox frontend, and i saw that it can be used as a standalone system instead of xbmc.
[13:04] <rigo_> i watch movies, use transmission, listen to music, and watch tv. thats all.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> never tried mythtv  so I have no idea , had xmbc for a short time , but too many menus for my liking ..I don't need something that tries to do everything
[13:07] <rigo_> :)
[13:08] <rigo_> i use it as a standalone htpc with tv and receiver. so for non-pc-usage.
[13:09] <rigo_> i just dont see the point using xbmc AND mythbox together, if the myth-whatever can do everything.
[13:09] <rigo_> i just dont know if it will handle the cccam / nagra3 coding as a client.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> this pc is a HTPC  , I use VLC for video and music ...works fine
[13:10] <JEEB> reminds me that I should see how much a HTPC would cost
[13:10] <JEEB> because the "plain boxes" cost like 300-400 euros here with a 500GB drive
[13:10] <JEEB> and I really don't see any reason to pay as much for a "dumb box"
[13:11] <patdk-wk> heh, I use old work machines, dell optiplex 755's
[13:11] <patdk-wk> add a gt220/gt520, and remove the harddrive
[13:11] <rigo_> i bought the case for 30, the mb for about 110, i had ddr3 ram in stock, i already had a harmony remote, and a 1Tb hdd.
[13:11] <patdk-wk> oh ya, add in one of the newer ps3 bluetooth remotes :)
[13:12] <rigo_> now i bought a tvcard to send the dreambox dm500-S to pensionary..
[13:12] <rigo_> for 41eur
[13:13] <rigo_> so all together was about 200 for me.. not a big deal. i just hope i can decode the n3 somehow with the htpc.
[13:13] <rigo_> well buying a complete for-builded htpc is pretty expensive. doesnt makes any sence youre right.
[13:14] <JEEB> well, considering the alternative is a "dumb" box that costs from 300-400
[13:15] <BluesKaj> rigo_, this pc is connected to an audio receiver with dac input from the coax audio on a m-audio souncard ,dvi/hdmi out to Panasonic Plasma tv  , so this pc plays both roles
[13:16] <BluesKaj> nvida 8400gs graphics
[13:17] <BluesKaj> otherwise this pc is just a plain jane HP desktop
[13:18] <BluesKaj> and 12.10 is running fine now with KDE desktop
[13:21] <rigo_> yep
[13:21] <rigo_> thisone is at3iont-i deluxe, connected to a receiver with optical, and with a hdmi cable to the tv. wlan so no lancable at all.
[13:25] <rigo_> im just confused about the nagra3
[13:35] <BluesKaj> rigo_, what's the nagra3 , I recall it being a tape recorder mfgr
[13:37] <rigo_> hehe :) no. its important to mention that the common usage of cccam is forbidden, but im from hungary and live in germany.
[13:37] <rigo_> so i pay for the tv channels in hungary and i share it with a cccam server and so can i watch the hungarian channels.
[13:38] <rigo_> i just was kicked because of this from the mythtv-users irc channel. :)
[13:38] <BluesKaj> cccam server, satellite ?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> have no idea what that is
[13:39] <rigo_> yes i have a cccam server running home on my mothers pc. :)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> what is a cccam , that's whatIasked
[13:40] <rigo_> is the application what shares the n3 keys what are used to decode the satelite stream
[13:42] <BluesKaj> ok you're using an illegal decoder in satellite receiver box
[13:42] <rigo_> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCcam it's only in german..
[13:42] <rigo_> yes. i am. i found no other way to watch hungarian channels.
[13:44] <rigo_> i think it's better to read after in the forums. cause what is illegal is illegal. no matter if i use it for non profit for only me etc...
[13:55] <BluesKaj> rigo_, best not to talk too much about this
[14:03] <rigo_> i c. sorry! believe me i'll have plenty of questions about ubu+mythtv.. :)
[14:12] <BluesKaj> rigo_, well, best to join #mythtv
[14:48] <Rovanion> Is there any difference between the server and desktop kernel?
[14:49] <h00k> Rovanion: one might be PAE...or something...but other than that, I don't think so
[15:00] <graingert> how can I disable the ubuntu user on the persistant LiveUSB?
[15:41] <ironhalik> hmm
[15:41] <ironhalik> I've got this game - Faster than light
[15:41] <ironhalik> and when I try to execute the launching script, it says 'Permission denied'
[15:42] <ironhalik> I recirsively chmoded the whole folder to 777, and added execute flags
[15:42] <ironhalik> any ideas? :>
[15:45] <bjsnider> maybe the script is trying to execute something else that's got different permissions. can you look at the script?
[15:46] <ironhalik> I added +x flags to every file in the folder :>
[15:47] <ironhalik> it executes ./data/FTL script, which identifies cpu arch and executes proper file
[15:47] <brendand> ironhalik, are you in the same folder?
[15:47] <ironhalik> yes
[15:47] <brendand> ironhalik, and how are you running it?
[15:47] <brendand> exact text in the command line
[15:47] <ironhalik> ./FTL
[15:47] <brendand> sudo?
[15:47] <brendand> does that help
[15:48] <ironhalik> sec
[15:49] <ironhalik> [ironhalik@papasmurf FTL]$ sudo /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl
[15:49] <ironhalik> sudo: unable to execute /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl: Permission denied
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ironhalik, try gksudo  /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl , or  gksudo ~/media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl ..if they're in your home dir
[16:19] <BluesKaj> gotta state the obvious
[16:30] <ironhalik> BluesKaj: hmm, nothing happens
[16:30] <ironhalik> it asked for pass and thats it
[16:32] <punisher> sorry for asking again but perhaps now someone is here with an new idea. i have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my intel Z670 (with gma600) tablet. ubuntu 12.04 works, but every kernel newer than 3.2 won't boot. screen goes black short after grub. i find a few people with the same problem but no solution. ideas ?
[16:51] <ikonia> punisher: have you logged a bug ?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> ironhalik, have you tried it in the run command, alt+f2 , gksudo yourfilemanager /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl
[16:56] <BluesKaj> there's .ftl extension there , ironhalik . check the path name again
[16:57] <BluesKaj> err there's no .ftl , you have /ftl ...don't hink that's correct . ironhalik
[17:00] <BluesKaj> anyway back to the yardwork ...BBL
[17:36] <punisher> no i don't logged a bug. there are 2 other screen black bugs. i want more debug infos to give specific infos for an bug
[17:39] <punisher> ikonia you know some boot options i can try ? (from ubuntu live cd)
[17:41] <IdleOne> !nomodeset
[17:43] <ikonia> punisher: what information do you need to be more specific to describe your bug ?
[17:47] <punisher> hm a crashing module an error message or something boot into black screen is so inaccurate
[17:48] <punisher> i tried nomodeset, text, and some others. every time the same result
[17:49] <ikonia> punisher: what information do you need to be more specific to describe your bug ?
[17:49] <punisher> i don't really know :-(
[17:50] <ikonia> so why are you not logging a bug then ?
[17:51] <ikonia> you don't know the problem, but you want to give specific info ? but you don't know what specific info you want
[17:52] <punisher> good point :-) ok i read the bug reporting howto
[19:15] <fm__> can anyone reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1051955 ?
[19:25] <kanliot> fm__, Can't reproduce
[19:26] <fm__> kanliot: strange, which version?
[19:26] <fm__> did you use my test file?
[19:28] <kanliot> yeah but using 1:3.5.1-rc2-1ubuntu4
[19:28] <kanliot> not 5
[19:50] <fm__> kanliot: i see you confirmed. can you reproduce now?
[19:50] <kanliot> i didn't confirm
[19:50] <kanliot> can someone exlain the difference between apt-get upgrade and software updater?
[19:50] <fm__> ah, someone else did, sorry
[19:52] <fm__> the software updater is a nice frontend using packagekit and aptd, while apt-get update/upgrade are the pure commandline based options for package management
[19:52] <kanliot> why do i get more packages with software-updater?
[19:53] <trism> probably the difference between apt-get upgrade; and apt-get dist-upgrade;
[19:54] <kanliot> nope i did a dist-upgrade, and seconds later ran software-updater
[19:54] <trism> which packages specifically?
[19:55] <kanliot> lots of packages.  libre-office calc for one
[19:57] <trism> hard to say without seeing the differences
[23:35] <dutchie> hey, has the setting to adjust FFM/auto raise changed? "gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/metacity/general/auto_raise false" doesn't seem to work since i upgraded
[23:42] <jbicha> dutchie: first, metacity now uses gsettings not gconf; second, multiple Ubuntu specific metacity patches were disabled when the gsettings switch happened because they needed to be rewritten
[23:43] <jbicha> I'm not sure if the setting you want was a Ubuntu-specific patch or not
[23:56] <dutchie> jbicha: right
[23:56] <dutchie> but auto raise is very annoying
[23:59] <jbicha> I just use the default settings, but why don't you open dconf-editor and navigate to org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences and see if focus-mode is what you need