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ondergetekendeI think I've found a bug in how dhcp and dns work on mixed interfaces (wlan vs eth), but I'm not sure which package to report it to.08:15
ondergetekendeCan anyone help me to select an appropriate package?08:15
os_hi how do i upgrade to Quantal Quetzal?08:30
enycos_: should discuss 12.10 on here, etc.08:30
os_12.10 =? Quantal Quetza08:31
os_or not ?08:32
os_"The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal."08:32
ondergetekendeos_ the best way is to try a clean install from a beta install medium; that way you won't get bitten by upgrade bugs.08:33
ondergetekendeThe alternative is "update-manager -d"08:34
os_ok thanks ...i have made it08:35
JEEBhmm, am I correct to see that no-one has as of yet reported a problem with the quantal's nouveau with kepler GPUs? I got the current daily iso on saturday and tried to boot it on my new box (for badblocks usage), and I seem to have hit https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/17/50409:54
punisherhello10:52
punisheri have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my intel Z670 (with gma600) tablet. ubuntu 12.04 works but every kernel newer than 3.2 won't boot. screen goes black short after grub10:53
punisheri find a few people with the same problem but no solution. anyone an idea ?10:54
pwuertzpunisher: try the acpi=off flag, or remove the "quiet" boot flag.. maybe this will provide some information for identifying the problem11:25
punisheri removed the quiet flag. i see text (very fast for a some time) and than the screen goes black11:36
punisheri also tried "text" and some other debug boot options but without any other result11:46
BluesKajHey all12:23
rigo_hi13:00
BluesKajhi13:00
rigo_so i plan to try out the precise netinstall, and the mythtvbuntu-live.13:01
BluesKajrigo_, so you have a tv tuner card13:02
rigo_it will arrive in the following days.13:03
rigo_i installed on xbmc eden the mythbox frontend, and i saw that it can be used as a standalone system instead of xbmc.13:03
rigo_i watch movies, use transmission, listen to music, and watch tv. thats all.13:04
BluesKajnever tried mythtv  so I have no idea , had xmbc for a short time , but too many menus for my liking ..I don't need something that tries to do everything13:07
rigo_:)13:07
rigo_i use it as a standalone htpc with tv and receiver. so for non-pc-usage.13:08
rigo_i just dont see the point using xbmc AND mythbox together, if the myth-whatever can do everything.13:09
rigo_i just dont know if it will handle the cccam / nagra3 coding as a client.13:09
BluesKajthis pc is a HTPC  , I use VLC for video and music ...works fine13:09
JEEBreminds me that I should see how much a HTPC would cost13:10
JEEBbecause the "plain boxes" cost like 300-400 euros here with a 500GB drive13:10
JEEBand I really don't see any reason to pay as much for a "dumb box"13:10
patdk-wkheh, I use old work machines, dell optiplex 755's13:11
patdk-wkadd a gt220/gt520, and remove the harddrive13:11
rigo_i bought the case for 30, the mb for about 110, i had ddr3 ram in stock, i already had a harmony remote, and a 1Tb hdd.13:11
patdk-wkoh ya, add in one of the newer ps3 bluetooth remotes :)13:11
rigo_now i bought a tvcard to send the dreambox dm500-S to pensionary..13:12
rigo_for 41eur13:12
rigo_so all together was about 200 for me.. not a big deal. i just hope i can decode the n3 somehow with the htpc.13:13
rigo_well buying a complete for-builded htpc is pretty expensive. doesnt makes any sence youre right.13:13
JEEBwell, considering the alternative is a "dumb" box that costs from 300-40013:14
BluesKajrigo_, this pc is connected to an audio receiver with dac input from the coax audio on a m-audio souncard ,dvi/hdmi out to Panasonic Plasma tv  , so this pc plays both roles13:15
BluesKajnvida 8400gs graphics13:16
BluesKajotherwise this pc is just a plain jane HP desktop13:17
BluesKajand 12.10 is running fine now with KDE desktop13:18
rigo_yep13:21
rigo_thisone is at3iont-i deluxe, connected to a receiver with optical, and with a hdmi cable to the tv. wlan so no lancable at all.13:21
rigo_im just confused about the nagra313:25
BluesKajrigo_, what's the nagra3 , I recall it being a tape recorder mfgr13:35
rigo_hehe :) no. its important to mention that the common usage of cccam is forbidden, but im from hungary and live in germany.13:37
rigo_so i pay for the tv channels in hungary and i share it with a cccam server and so can i watch the hungarian channels.13:37
rigo_i just was kicked because of this from the mythtv-users irc channel. :)13:38
BluesKajcccam server, satellite ?13:38
BluesKajhave no idea what that is13:38
rigo_yes i have a cccam server running home on my mothers pc. :)13:39
BluesKajwhat is a cccam , that's whatIasked13:39
rigo_is the application what shares the n3 keys what are used to decode the satelite stream13:40
BluesKajok you're using an illegal decoder in satellite receiver box13:42
rigo_http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCcam it's only in german..13:42
rigo_yes. i am. i found no other way to watch hungarian channels.13:42
rigo_i think it's better to read after in the forums. cause what is illegal is illegal. no matter if i use it for non profit for only me etc...13:44
BluesKajrigo_, best not to talk too much about this13:55
rigo_i c. sorry! believe me i'll have plenty of questions about ubu+mythtv.. :)14:03
BluesKajrigo_, well, best to join #mythtv14:12
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RovanionIs there any difference between the server and desktop kernel?14:48
h00kRovanion: one might be PAE...or something...but other than that, I don't think so14:49
graingerthow can I disable the ubuntu user on the persistant LiveUSB?15:00
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ironhalikhmm15:41
ironhalikI've got this game - Faster than light15:41
ironhalikand when I try to execute the launching script, it says 'Permission denied'15:41
ironhalikI recirsively chmoded the whole folder to 777, and added execute flags15:42
ironhalikany ideas? :>15:42
bjsnidermaybe the script is trying to execute something else that's got different permissions. can you look at the script?15:45
ironhalikI added +x flags to every file in the folder :>15:46
ironhalikit executes ./data/FTL script, which identifies cpu arch and executes proper file15:47
brendandironhalik, are you in the same folder?15:47
ironhalikyes15:47
brendandironhalik, and how are you running it?15:47
brendandexact text in the command line15:47
ironhalik./FTL15:47
brendandsudo?15:47
brendanddoes that help15:47
ironhaliksec15:48
ironhalik[ironhalik@papasmurf FTL]$ sudo /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl15:49
ironhaliksudo: unable to execute /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl: Permission denied15:49
BluesKajironhalik, try gksudo  /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl , or  gksudo ~/media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl ..if they're in your home dir16:18
BluesKajgotta state the obvious16:19
ironhalikBluesKaj: hmm, nothing happens16:30
ironhalikit asked for pass and thats it16:30
punishersorry for asking again but perhaps now someone is here with an new idea. i have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my intel Z670 (with gma600) tablet. ubuntu 12.04 works, but every kernel newer than 3.2 won't boot. screen goes black short after grub. i find a few people with the same problem but no solution. ideas ?16:32
ikoniapunisher: have you logged a bug ?16:51
BluesKajironhalik, have you tried it in the run command, alt+f2 , gksudo yourfilemanager /media/data/Downloads/FTL/ftl16:54
BluesKajthere's .ftl extension there , ironhalik . check the path name again16:56
BluesKajerr there's no .ftl , you have /ftl ...don't hink that's correct . ironhalik16:57
BluesKajanyway back to the yardwork ...BBL17:00
punisherno i don't logged a bug. there are 2 other screen black bugs. i want more debug infos to give specific infos for an bug17:36
punisherikonia you know some boot options i can try ? (from ubuntu live cd)17:39
IdleOne!nomodeset17:41
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:41
ikoniapunisher: what information do you need to be more specific to describe your bug ?17:43
punisherhm a crashing module an error message or something boot into black screen is so inaccurate17:47
punisheri tried nomodeset, text, and some others. every time the same result17:48
ikoniapunisher: what information do you need to be more specific to describe your bug ?17:49
punisheri don't really know :-(17:49
ikoniaso why are you not logging a bug then ?17:50
ikoniayou don't know the problem, but you want to give specific info ? but you don't know what specific info you want17:51
punishergood point :-) ok i read the bug reporting howto17:52
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fm__can anyone reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1051955 ?19:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1051955 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Hyphenation doubles characters in Calc" [Undecided,New]19:15
kanliotfm__, Can't reproduce19:25
fm__kanliot: strange, which version?19:26
fm__did you use my test file?19:26
kanliotyeah but using 1:3.5.1-rc2-1ubuntu419:28
kanliotnot 519:28
fm__kanliot: i see you confirmed. can you reproduce now?19:50
kanlioti didn't confirm19:50
kanliotcan someone exlain the difference between apt-get upgrade and software updater?19:50
fm__ah, someone else did, sorry19:50
fm__the software updater is a nice frontend using packagekit and aptd, while apt-get update/upgrade are the pure commandline based options for package management19:52
kanliotwhy do i get more packages with software-updater?19:52
trismprobably the difference between apt-get upgrade; and apt-get dist-upgrade;19:53
kanliotnope i did a dist-upgrade, and seconds later ran software-updater19:54
trismwhich packages specifically?19:54
kanliotlots of packages.  libre-office calc for one19:55
trismhard to say without seeing the differences19:57
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dutchiehey, has the setting to adjust FFM/auto raise changed? "gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/metacity/general/auto_raise false" doesn't seem to work since i upgraded23:35
jbichadutchie: first, metacity now uses gsettings not gconf; second, multiple Ubuntu specific metacity patches were disabled when the gsettings switch happened because they needed to be rewritten23:42
jbichaI'm not sure if the setting you want was a Ubuntu-specific patch or not23:43
dutchiejbicha: right23:56
dutchiebut auto raise is very annoying23:56
jbichaI just use the default settings, but why don't you open dconf-editor and navigate to org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences and see if focus-mode is what you need23:59

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