[04:05] <jfenn2199> evening all
[13:20] <xTEMPLARx> =]
[13:47] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: wb
[13:48] <xTEMPLARx> thank you mr. wrst
[13:50] <wrst> good weekend?
[13:50] <xTEMPLARx> decent enough!  you?
[14:59] <wrst> doing well xTEMPLARx, rain , rain , rain!
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> it was sprinkling on me on the way in this morning as well
[15:00]  * xTEMPLARx loves rain.
[15:18] <wrst> i do too xTEMPLARx as long as i don't have to be in it :)
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> being in it's not so bad, if you're dressed properly
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> but I hear ya
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> soaked socks/shoes are the worst part
[15:18] <wrst> yes but i'm not
[15:18] <wrst> yes
[15:18] <wrst> i can't stand that
[15:19] <wrst> disgusting feeling
[15:19] <xTEMPLARx> trust me, I know all about that.  I wear chuck taylors 99.9% of the time.
[15:20] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i'm looking for some hardware, somethign that will run ubuntu, support dual monitors and dirt cheap
[15:20] <wrst> new used doesn't really matter
[15:22]  * xTEMPLARx isn't gonna be of much use :(
[15:22] <xTEMPLARx> I rarely have "spare" hardware.  :(
[15:23] <wrst> oh well not looking for give away just something cheap
[15:23] <wrst> i would be willing to purchase :)
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> I hear ya
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> still
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> price isn't the point with me
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> lack of availability is
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> If I had somethin' I'd offer it to ya
[15:23] <wrst> i'm tired of taking my laptop to church is the moral of this story
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[15:23] <xTEMPLARx> i hear ya
[15:24] <wrst> i have been looking at some netbooks on ebay
[15:24] <wrst> or a hardware suggestion could really be what i'm looking for either one :)
[15:25] <xTEMPLARx> you looking for something to become the permanent screen machine at your church?
[15:25] <wrst> no just protble we aren't in a permanent location
[15:25] <xTEMPLARx> if so, I'd go with a dedicated desktop box, rather than mobile
[15:26] <xTEMPLARx> like rented space?
[15:26] <wrst> when we get sorted i will build a rack mounted desktop machine
[15:26] <xTEMPLARx> or, move in, set up, tear down after each service?
[15:26] <wrst> yes well another church is letting us use an alt. site of there's so its not completely move it all out but the computer is the only thing
[15:26] <wrst> and i just don't like other people having their paws on my machine really
[15:26] <xTEMPLARx> and for good reason
[15:27] <wrst> i woudl probably still be taking this back and forth but it would be a single purpose machine
[15:27] <wrst> the way i tinker its cramping my style having to have a laptop that always boots and what not
[15:27] <xTEMPLARx> heaven forbid it boot always
[15:27] <xTEMPLARx> sometimes you should have to wack it with a hammer
[15:27] <wrst> i could use either a netbook or a cheap cheap notebook or a little mini pc sort of thing
[15:27] <wrst> prefer notebook/netbook probably
[15:28] <xTEMPLARx> a cheap cheap notebook would likely be best, performance-wise
[15:28] <xTEMPLARx> netbooks seem a bit  underpowered for what you're likely asking of it
[15:28] <wrst> yeah
[15:28] <wrst> well running openlp it doesn't take much and probably set it up with arch running xfce or lxde
[15:28] <wrst> so it would be light as long as it would play 480 videos and do dual monitors
[15:30] <wrst> but when we get a fulltime place i will probably build two rackmount machines one for projection one for recording and why probably a file server too, i'm going to geek the place up!
[15:31] <xTEMPLARx> YA BIG NERD
[15:31] <xTEMPLARx> but yeah that sounds like the thing to do
[15:31] <xTEMPLARx> and you should do it all with Windows ME!
[15:33] <wrst> ha no thank you i'm pretty sure all that would run ubuntu lts
[15:34] <wrst> or debian stable depending
[15:34] <wrst> i love me some arch but not if i have to support it :)
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> I wonder if there's a way to cause a virtualbox WindowsME session to auto-load on login by a specific user, so that they thought they were in windowsME
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> that way if someone had no business using the machine, you give them that login
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> then they'll think your machines all suck and push to have you removed from responsibility for them
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> so nevermind
[15:35] <wrst> ha ha ha
[15:36] <wrst> i think that when i see someone using vista
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[15:37] <xTEMPLARx> we have a guy here who has a fairly expensive Dell laptop he bought new, and he vehemently defends the Vista installation that's on it
[15:37] <xTEMPLARx> refuses to upgrade
[15:37] <xTEMPLARx> says its perfectly fine and nothing wrong with it
[15:44] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: maybe he has something wrong with him
[15:44] <wrst> oh here is one xTEMPLARx http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-Aspire-One-D255E-10-1-Netbook-Red-250-GB-Intel-Atom-1-GB-NEEDS-LCD-/150898098274?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item23223a4062
[15:44] <wrst> i thought thats not bad, and thats an interesting wallpaper then i realized taht wasn't wallpaper :)
[15:45] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[15:51] <wrst> i guess i could just build something... might should do that
[15:54] <xTEMPLARx> would probably be the most economical, and likely the most capable
[15:59] <wrst> yeah i just need to do it i suppose :)
[17:11] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: building a mahcine is such a hassle, you have to look stuff up
[17:43] <xTEMPLARx> pffft!
[17:43] <xTEMPLARx> not as bad as having to look stuff up after buying a pre-built only to find out that its network/video/fill-in-the-blank isn't properly supported or requires some oddball workaround
[17:44] <xTEMPLARx> build a good machine based on quality parts instead of obscure chinese no-names and work right outa the box
[17:45] <wrst> yep xTEMPLARx thats what i did on my desktop and also on my laptop
[17:45] <wrst> my laptop "just works"
[17:46] <wrst> everything supported in the kernel
[17:47] <xTEMPLARx> =]
[17:49] <xTEMPLARx> bought some candy corn to help temper my sweet tooth here at work
[17:49] <xTEMPLARx> betta rekkinize
[17:54] <wrst> my wife gave the daughter some of that over the weekend, she was bouncing off the walls
[17:55] <wrst> must have some serious sugar in it
[18:39] <wrst> good morning chris4585 ;)
[18:41] <chris4585> hey wrst, having a good monday?
[18:42] <wrst> for a monday i suppsoe i am, and you? :)
[18:42] <binarymutant> anyone know how to get openal to use pulseaudio?   I've edited /etc/openal/alsoft.conf but it didn't work :/
[18:48] <chris4585> just woke up, and so far so good
[18:53] <wrst> binarymutant: i ahve not a clue, sorry
[18:53] <wrst> chris4585: about time you get up ;)
[19:00] <binarymutant> oh wait it's not openal, google-chrome isn't using pulse :/
[19:06] <wrst> google crhome seems to do its own thing
[19:09] <binarymutant> it uses alsa, but pulseaudio-alsa fixed it
[19:18] <xTEMPLARx> when is 12.10 supposed to be official
[19:34] <kanliot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[19:45] <xTEMPLARx> tyvm