[00:01] <drupin> checking
[00:05] <drupin> only one use so far
[00:05] <drupin> let me login to thunar by gk
[00:09] <drupin> YEppee
[00:09] <drupin> all gone
[00:10] <drupin> in menu there were 2
[00:10] <drupin> but in /share/app there were 5
[00:10] <drupin> i will always look the ubuntu site before i install any app
[00:17] <len-dt> Glad you got your fix.
[00:48] <drupin> yes thanks
[02:13] <sobrediggler> hows it hanging?
[02:17] <holstein> sobrediggler: everything is fine... whats up? you need assistanc?
[02:18] <sobrediggler> yeah not really .... but is there an ableton live like software available in ubuntustudio?
[02:19] <holstein> sobrediggler: what are you looking for?.. assume i dont no what ableton is
[02:21] <sobrediggler> It's a clip sampler with the ability to time stretch with intra sample stretching, while maintaining beat consistency
[02:22] <holstein> i would try lmms
[02:22] <holstein> ive heard renoise has some of that
[02:22] <sobrediggler> yeah renoise isn't free, plus not opensource as well
[02:23] <holstein> sobrediggler: ableton is?
[02:23] <sobrediggler> oh ableton live
[02:23] <holstein> i mean, if you are looking for open source tools, there are plenty.. i feel i can do all of that with open tools
[02:23] <holstein> is there a monolithic all in one like ableton? probably not in the repos
[02:24] <holstein> is there anything keeping ableton from being written for ubuntu? no
[02:24] <sobrediggler> I've actually done pre precise pangolin ubuntu studio and it's the intra clip beat stretching that's missing
[02:24] <sobrediggler> Oh and a nice maximiser
[02:25] <sobrediggler> what's your signal chain look like holstein?
[02:25] <holstein> sobrediggler: i do analog audio
[02:25] <holstein> you can ask in #opensourcemusicians
[02:25] <sobrediggler> so what do you recommend for balls to the wall maximisation?
[02:26] <holstein> sobrediggler: i would try lmms, though i dont no what you are taling about
[02:26] <holstein> talking*
[02:26] <holstein> i dont know what mzximisation is
[02:26] <holstein> ardour3 will have midi support
[02:26] <sobrediggler> you know the bit with audio dsp where you push everything as close to 0dbFS as possible
[02:27] <sobrediggler> I've yet to fine a great open source software for this
[02:27] <holstein> sobrediggler: i try and just record things as hot as they need to be
[02:27] <sobrediggler> it's like the bbe sonic maximizer
[02:27] <holstein> i try and use as few plugins as possible
[02:27] <sobrediggler> you've heard of that right?
[02:27] <holstein> what i like for that is JAMin
[02:27] <sobrediggler> no the bbe is hardware
[02:28] <sobrediggler> oh and a proper exciter would be cool
[02:28] <holstein> sobrediggler: i didnt meant to imply that i thought it was software
[02:28] <holstein> sobrediggler: i like JAMin
[02:29] <sobrediggler> oh that jamin looks nice ...
[02:29] <holstein> i use it at the end for what you are talking about when im too cheap to pay for mastering.. though it does a lot more than maximizing
[02:29] <sobrediggler> how about an exciter? Do you have a recommendation
[02:30] <holstein> sobrediggler: i just use EQ's
[02:30] <holstein> im sure there is a plugin called "exciter" somewhere
[02:30] <sobrediggler> i don't think jamin was a default install in the last release
[02:30] <holstein> sobrediggler: its in the repos
[02:30] <holstein> not sure if its default or not
[02:30] <holstein> im still using 10.04, though i tested 12.04
[02:31] <sobrediggler> Yeah .... but i'd take recommendations over search results for exciters
[02:31] <sobrediggler> so what kind of music you do ?
[02:31] <holstein> sobrediggler: ask in #opensourcemusicians
[02:31] <holstein> sobrediggler: i freelance.. i play whatever im hired
[02:31] <holstein> i do a little recording on my own
[02:31] <holstein> almost exclusively acoustic stuff
[02:32] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/album/open
[02:32] <holstein> i dont use an exciter...
[02:33] <sobrediggler> Oh nice ....
[02:34] <sobrediggler> piezo or condensor or mix?
[02:34] <holstein> sobrediggler: i use a pickup live, but i never record it
[02:35] <holstein> i use the pickup live out of necessity when the rooms are too loud for me to play acoustic
[02:36] <sobrediggler> i think a nice mix of shotguns and a large diaphram condensor would really pop the recordings
[02:37] <holstein> the recordings?
[02:38] <sobrediggler> yeah the one on bandcamp
[02:38] <holstein> maybe.. i dont thought
[02:38] <holstein> though*
[02:39] <holstein> i like to use just one mic, though sometimes i set up a small diaphragm as well, and might have then
[02:39] <holstein> i dont like it always though and probably took it out
[02:39] <holstein> you can record a bass how you like though
[02:39] <sobrediggler> oh yeah ...
[02:40] <sobrediggler> hey it's good stuff
[02:40] <drupin> i used have roboform on windoze .. any similar like app we have
[02:40] <drupin> which can import
[02:41] <drupin> data and use here
[02:41] <sobrediggler> Did you record everything in one take? Because your levels are pretty consistent
[02:41] <holstein> sobrediggler: the other one is all live.. "living"
[02:42] <holstein> "open" has a few edits
[02:42] <holstein> not much, but some here and there on the more improvised ones
[02:42] <holstein> well, they are all improvised
[02:42] <holstein> i "wrote" and recorded them all in one go
[02:43] <holstein> drupin: theres an importer in the installer.. what are you looking to import? theres a backup tool.. several backup tools and ubuntuone
[02:43] <sobrediggler> nice .... sometimes it's difficult to get the same levels in different sessions
[02:43] <holstein> sobrediggler: i just knocked it all out in the same 2 hours span
[02:45] <sobrediggler> yeah ... so that's the thing with an all in one tool. Instead of trying to remember how i connected all the jack cabling, how i had to use python midi to chain up minicomputer, etc.  I'm just waiting for something that just enables me to funk out the jams
[02:46] <holstein> sobrediggler: and you've tried lmms?
[02:46] <holstein> theres a "free" trial for renoise
[02:46] <sobrediggler> i'm rocking around with milkytracker
[02:47] <sobrediggler> but i think my tracking days are over
[02:47] <drupin> holstein: i mean i just dont need a backup .. i want to password fill too on sites
[02:48] <sobrediggler> shared on facebook holstein!
[02:48] <holstein> sobrediggler: thanks!
[02:48] <sobrediggler> you've got the diggler bump!
[02:49] <holstein> sobrediggler: i like this guys stuff too http://sharpattack.bandcamp.com/
[02:49] <holstein> and of course http://www.zoekeating.com/
[02:49] <drupin> importer ? holstein
[02:50] <holstein> http://music.zoekeating.com/
[02:50] <holstein> drupin: im not sure what you mean by an "importer"
[02:50] <holstein> drupin: i use last pass which autofills passwords on websites
[02:51] <drupin> ok let me see
[02:52] <sobrediggler> mmm sweet i'll give them a listen too.
 drupin: theres an importer in the installer.
[03:03] <holstein> drupin: sure, but it doesnt fill any passwords
[03:03] <drupin> ohhh
[03:03] <holstein> drupin: im not sure what passwords you are asking about...
[03:04] <drupin> they have a roboform extention
[03:04] <drupin> but i dont know how secure is it
[03:04] <drupin> in chrome
[03:04] <drupin> and ffox
[03:04] <holstein> probably as secure as the one included in chrome
[03:05] <holstein> or the one in lastpass i mentioned
[03:05] <holstein> i was just letting chrome do that, and sync through my google account... then i started using lastpass and decided that with 2 factor authentication was arguably safer
[03:08] <holstein> i would trust this post on exciters sobrediggler http://ardour.org/node/405
[03:15] <sobrediggler> right ... didn't benjamin scherrer do a plugin after that?
[03:15] <sobrediggler> but the general idea is correct .. with the highpass + harmonics
[03:16] <holstein> i just skimmed it.. im not in the market for one
[03:17] <sobrediggler> the thing is which harmonic partial adds the most musical bits.
[03:17] <sobrediggler> that's at least a 100 000 bucks market right there
[03:17] <holstein> sure, but thats a matter of opinion. just want to be able to have the dontrol
[03:18] <holstein> control*
[03:18] <holstein> still, im just saying i trust that source... im sure folks would appreciate and use a plugin like that, and im not sure we dont have them
[03:19] <sobrediggler> hehehe .... anyway another rather interesting technique is to pipe your music into a 12 bit ADC/DAC recording and use that as a sweetener.
[03:19] <sobrediggler> And no not using digital downgrading.
[03:20] <holstein> i dont like to go back and forth personally
[03:20] <holstein> i just dont like to process that much in general
[03:20] <holstein> just an opinion
[03:20] <sobrediggler> yeah ... as an acoustic guy sure.... fidelity suffers because of that. But as an electronic musician it's massively amazing.
[03:21] <sobrediggler> thanks for the link btw... it's been sometime since i've visited ardour.
[03:21] <holstein> http://dinisnoise.org/ this is a fun toy
[03:22] <sobrediggler> oh yeah i've actually tried that
[03:22] <sobrediggler> but life get's in the way
[03:22] <sobrediggler> damn you reality *shakes fist*
[03:24] <sobrediggler> righto going for lunch .... brb
[04:03] <nil8> ne1 on?
[05:23] <drupin> error when getting information for the file /home/drupin/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected http://bit.ly/U2GVfh will this work out
[05:28] <pickledeggs> hi, can someone help me with my resolution it is stuck on 640x480 and has no option for other res
[09:30] <Sakrecoer> Hi all! I have a technic support question regarding ubunutstudio 12.04, may i ask it here?
[09:31] <ailo> Sakrecoer: This is the right place for that, yes
[09:31] <Sakrecoer> thank you!
[09:32] <Sakrecoer> out of the blue, my CD-Rom won't mount adio CD's anymore... anything else will work, like ISO data discs...
[09:33] <Sakrecoer> i can play them using VLC, but moviep player that used to be able to play them gives the same error as the filemanager: "Location is not Mountable"
[09:33] <ailo> Sakrecoer: Did you change file managers, or something like that?
[09:33] <Sakrecoer> no...
[09:34] <ailo> Sakrecoer: If you can play them using VLC, then the CD is mounted
[09:34] <ailo> Sakrecoer: Just that totem is not finding it for some reason
[09:34] <Sakrecoer> i agree... but the filemanager tells me not... i used to be able to see the files on the CD-rom in totem..
[09:35] <Sakrecoer> to mount in terminal gives me "mount: can't find /dev/sg1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[09:35] <Sakrecoer> i gues i can live with this :) but it's confusing, especially since VLC isn't included in ubustu by default...
[09:36] <ailo> Sakrecoer: I believe the CD is mounted, but there seems to be some other kind of error. Maybe how it is mounted. I would ask on a more general Ubuntu channel. #ubuntu, or even #xubuntu. If no one knows of a solution, maybe you could try find someone who can help you find out the actual problem
[09:37] <ailo> It would be helpful to get a bug report on it
[09:37] <ailo> Let me try an audio CD right now, just to see
[09:37] <ailo> Ah, damn. I don't have IDE on this MB
[09:37] <ailo> And no new DVD drive
[09:38] <Sakrecoer> no worries... :) thanks for your time anyways, it's much appreciated.
[09:40] <Sakrecoer> i'll fibble a little more and file a repport after that :) have a good day all! (or night... you know... ;)
[09:46] <ailo> Sakrecoer: Lunch time here. I will see if I can find a way to test audio CD's myself. Maybe someone has a machine
[09:49] <Sakrecoer> thank you! Smaklig måltid! :) At filing the bug at the moment, then food too! :) Peace!
[10:14] <Nova_deViator> j #lugos
[10:15] <Nova_deViator> ups sorry.
[10:50] <dulien> hi there
[10:51] <dulien> quick question. would you reccomend ubuntunstudio for a graphics artist>>photographer  ? or is it more geared towards musicans ?
[10:51] <FloatingGoat> hi
[10:51] <FloatingGoat> dulien: hi
[10:52] <FloatingGoat> hmmm
[10:52] <dulien> hey :)
[10:52] <FloatingGoat> inkscape and gimp im pretty sure is what ubuntu studio has for that type of thing
[10:52] <FloatingGoat> and you can getit anywhere
[10:53] <dulien> i just booted it up and liked the look and feel so far.  the only things that concerns me so far is the realtime kernel and the font rendering :)
[10:53] <dulien> jupp, i would just add the stable ppa s  anyway.
[10:54] <FloatingGoat> whats wrong with the realtime kernel
[10:54] <FloatingGoat> realtime rocks
[10:55] <FloatingGoat> im addicted to listening to my own song
[10:55] <dulien> FloatingGoat:  wb. maybe its just gibberish but i heard its not needed if you dont do video and audio editing.
[10:56] <dulien> anyway, i guess it doesnt harm on the other hand ?
[10:56] <FloatingGoat> yeah i think realtime is mainly for audio
[10:56] <FloatingGoat> hmm
[10:57] <FloatingGoat> I think thres issues with the realtime kernel and..
[10:57] <FloatingGoat> proprietary nvidia drivers or something
[10:59] <dulien> ah kay. ive only got intel gma graphics anyway :)
[11:00] <FloatingGoat> kewl
[11:00] <FloatingGoat> same
[11:02] <dulien> gma 4500MDH here,  nearly able to play full HD1080p   , but only nearly so.  :P
[11:03] <FloatingGoat> is that like really old or something
[11:03] <dulien> well its a 2009 laptop i guess.
[11:03] <dulien> Dell Latitude e4300
[11:06] <ailo-w> Depends a bit on the encoding, and the video drivers. Some nvidia cards have gotten improved performance over the last couple of years
[11:06] <FloatingGoat> can it play songs?
[11:07] <dulien> ailo-w:  i have to admit the only time it did not play smooth it was a youtube video, so i could be because of crappy flash implementation
[11:07] <dulien> sure sure
[11:09] <FloatingGoat> so it can play songs?
[11:09] <FloatingGoat> you should listen to my song
[11:09] <dulien> hehe
[11:09] <FloatingGoat> http://ubuntuone.com/6ZEt5Vtq4igGPr64DYYMG4
[11:10] <dulien> playing now
[11:10] <FloatingGoat> yay
[11:11] <dulien> Is that you singing? Reminds me a bit of Pet Shop Boys. Not bad though.  :)
[11:12] <FloatingGoat> Yeah its me
[11:12] <FloatingGoat> is that like the 80's?
[11:13] <dulien> pretty much, yes ``,  to me it has got a synthiepop touch, which is a bonus not a bad thing
[11:14] <dulien> try and look up very old depeche mode stuff and you know what i mean :)
[11:14] <FloatingGoat> yeah I usually go for that kinda sound
[11:14] <FloatingGoat> im pretty sure someone else said those two artists too
[11:15] <dulien> hehe, i bet.
[11:15] <dulien> if you like this kind of sound: search for camoufage, the band (name)
[11:15] <FloatingGoat> a while back on one of my old songs
[11:16] <dulien> german band, very rare back in the 80s, but i like them. They also were very typical *electro* and *synhti*
[11:16] <FloatingGoat> I will
[11:17] <dulien> here you go :P  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anWILW5_llM
[11:19] <TheHustle> Hi, does anyone know of a software solution to fix frame bouncing?
[11:23] <dulien> got the link ?
[11:28] <FloatingGoat> yeah
[11:28] <FloatingGoat> ill check it out this afternoon when I wake up
[11:28] <dulien> anyway, have to go, baba :)