[00:01] so do you need moderators for brainstorm or you already have? [00:03] we don't have any afaik [00:03] so mods would be welcome [00:03] "Ubuntu Brainstorm is read regularly by Ubuntu developers and contributors. They are doing their best to keep you up-to-date on the most popular ideas." :) [00:05] need an account i guess, they don't use the launchpad accounts i presume? [00:05] should be ubuntu sson i think [00:05] sso [00:05] or ssi? (single-sign-in?) [00:05] sso [00:06] re: moderation, i think brainstorm has its own moderators [00:06] but one more can't hurt [00:07] well, one dedicated to xubuntu wouldn't hurt [00:07] they're just general moderators [00:07] so that's not much help to us i gather [00:11] ok, i need to hit the sack [00:11] see you later and good night :) [00:11] +1 [00:11] night! [00:19] in the end i had to create an account, the one from launchpad didn't work... [04:39] exit [04:39] oops [05:59] Hey guys! [05:59] I need some help setting up conky. [06:00] I have the config, placed it in the right place. but it doesn't work [06:49] mlpokn: did you put it in ~/.conkyrc and did you restart conky? [06:50] koegs; I've put it in: /home//.conky.rc [06:50] koegs; I've put it in: /home//.conkyrc [06:51] isn't it the same thing? Tried with a different config and that worked [06:53] it's the same location [06:53] ok :) [06:55] this is the code: http://pastie.org/private/3xlnmcsxlak89ugqkjit9g . It's really nice. Too bad I can't use it [06:59] . [07:00] mlpokn: kill conky and try to start it from the terminal, maybe there is some error-message there [07:01] the minimum and maximum size is a bit odd :D [07:01] koegs [07:01] that how I usually start conky [07:02] there are errors: http://pastie.org/private/6kbxims93sy5cvll7ys7gg :: koegs [07:05] mlpokn: try so set alignment to "top_left", reduce the size of the window and remove all the variables [07:05] then you can try to add one var each restart and see which breaks the config :) [07:08] LOL [07:08] worked [07:08] still some errors [07:09] hmm. How can I change it's position? [07:13] How can I make it dragable? Is it possible? [07:13] Messing with gap_x and y doesn't work [07:14] hahaha [07:14] worked [07:14] One more question. I want to place it on a panel in xfce, how can I make it stay on top? [07:15] right click on it in task switcher? [07:16] hmm [07:16] I mean a command in the config [07:18] found it [07:18] "below' [07:54] how do i save files to a network location in the Save As box? [07:55] u should use fstab for mounting it [07:56] if it was mounted via gvfs (thunar) it should show as well [07:56] mont the samba://host/dir adress? [07:57] how do i mount a network folder in thunar? [07:57] try accessing the share with thunar first [07:57] mount //somepc/someshare /mountpoint -t cifs -o adparams [07:58] thunar should have network icon in the tree and you could browse your shares there [07:58] or use fstab for permanent share [07:58] there is nothing in the tree even after having browsed the share [07:59] how did you browse it? [07:59] opened the Home folder on my desktop with thunar and clicked the network icon [07:59] and you can't redo this again? [08:00] in Save As boxes, there is no option for Network [08:00] try to mount smb share as a local folder [08:00] perhaps it would be simpler to save to desktop then move file? [08:00] that is not an option. i do not have a hard drive [08:00] i will try mount [08:01] actually you can save things in the desktop, even if you don't have a disk its saved in ram [08:01] try it [08:01] may be file is too big [08:01] then move it where you want [08:01] nah [08:01] unless its 4g+ [08:02] well depends how much ram you have [08:02] may be he use thin client [08:02] will it mess with my persistence? my understanding is you cant re-use space from deleted files [08:02] as a terminal) [08:02] if you have persistence on, it will actually save it :) [08:02] but moving it will take care of that [08:02] if you don't have persistence, doesn't matter, will be there until you reboot [08:03] right but im homeless and this thumbdrive with xubuntu is my bread and butter. if i fill the drive and cant recover space by deleteing files... what am i to do? [08:03] plenty of time to move your file where you want [08:03] but it will takes much time [08:03] you can see your free space the usual way [08:04] open thunar, it tells you :) [08:04] am i incorrect? if i delete a file in persistent mode i really can re-use the space the deleted file used to occupy? [08:04] browse your home folder [08:05] yes [08:05] its not a CD-R :) [08:05] didnt work with kubuntu but that must have been something going wrong [08:06] how about emptying the trash bin? [08:06] i would end up with a full drive by the time i deleted all the unnessesary stuff [08:06] i did [08:06] weird [08:06] which filesystem? [08:07] 2GB Fat16 partition and 13GB ext2 casper-rw partition. created using Linux Live USB Creator, partitioned with gparted [08:09] i would just install to the USB instead of using live, but the installer crashes no matter what distro I use (worked fine b4 i lost my hard drive) [08:41] Deutopia, you could use the minimal iso to install [08:44] after failing so many times, i think the USB is the problem [08:44] Deutopia, i would not make swap, and format ext4 using the option ^has_journal (means no journal), and try to put grub where it belongs ;) you could force the installer to ask everything using priority=low [08:44] you could try another? [08:45] all i have is a 2GB and a 16GB [08:45] buying one isnt an option. i have a hard enough time just eating [08:45] it will probably work, try formating that 16gb with ext4 :) [08:46] Artemis3: ext4 isn't reccommended on flash devices [08:46] shhh [08:46] read what i put above [08:46] yeah i know about the journaling [08:47] boot minimal from the 2gb and install into the 16gb, should work [08:48] ill try that next time i screw up xubuntu [08:49] well at least minimal iso is a small download, should be tricky to dd unless you already can boot from the 16gb [08:50] why you didn't like persistence again? :) [08:51] i was under the understanding that i couldnt re-use drive space after deleting files [08:51] hmm that should not be the case... [08:51] must have been a fluke [08:52] my current question is how do i mount a network folder so i can save files directly from browser to network folder [08:52] tried mount and it said it doesnt exist in fstab [08:53] Deutopia: browse it with thunar [08:53] Deutopia: or gigolo [08:53] i did [08:53] Deutopia: then it's mounted [08:53] well how do i save to that folder? [08:53] Deutopia: it's in ~/.gvfs [08:55] what does that mean? [08:56] i click filesystem and all i see are folders and initrd and vmlinuz [08:57] it means a (hidden) folder called .gvfs in your /home/user, what are you looking in / ? [08:59] well i guess i cant see it cuz it's hidden [08:59] ls -la [08:59] im in a save as window [08:59] usually ctrl h does the trick [08:59] or ctr+h [08:59] else just type it [09:04] ctrl + H did the trick [09:07] just remember "ctrl+Hidemyporn" [09:45] hahahahhaha [09:45] nice [10:08] hallo [11:15] anyone around? I am getting this error from arandr --> /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/screenlayout/xrandr.py:42: UserWarning: XRandR wrote to stderr, but did not report an error (Message was: 'xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default\n') warnings.warn("XRandR wrote to stderr, but did not report an error (Message was: %r)"%err) <--- and its only detecting 1 of my 3 displays. [11:18] Kingsy: what graphics card do you have? [11:19] hmm actually I think I have it [11:19] I have not installed the radeon / ati drivers at all.. [11:19] its a 6850 sapphire [11:19] HD === rainaaa is now known as strudelteig [12:54] hi all, laptop just died and was wondering if anyone had suggestions as to whats good to get theses day. Particularly with regard to onboard video [12:59] like whats Intel® HD's driver support like? [13:00] intel has excellent drivers, because they are the only ones that are actually open source [13:01] and they improved greatly thanks to the work Valve did on them [13:01] TheSheep: thx, thats good to know, I normally will only buy nvidia , but not a lot of nvidia on offer [13:02] recon_tv: http://www.zdnet.com/valve-linux-runs-our-games-faster-than-windows-7-7000002060/ [13:03] i got a weird(ish) problem, i'm dualbooting with xubuntu and windows, and windows won't hibernate (it will, but when i try to boot it again it just boots normally, it doesn't restore) [13:03] lol, well. I never though anything runs particularly fast on MS. [13:04] recon_tv: usually windows gets better performance in graphics, because the drivers are written by the hardware vendors [13:04] recon_tv: who have very detailed knowledge of their hardware [13:04] is it possible to resize preinstalled windows theses ? do does it just cry like a baby ? [13:04] do/or* [13:05] recon_tv: theses? [13:05] days [13:05] recon_tv: you mean resize the partition? [13:05] yep, tried it about 5 years ago las time i had windows and windows was not happy [13:06] recon_tv: it is possible, but you should make a backup, because there is a chance it will go wrong [13:06] recon_tv: but you should have a backup anyways [13:07] no big deal, have barely used windows since and never on a computer I owned [13:07] might be nice to keep it on a little partition just incase, who know I migh need it some day [13:08] I use a virtual server for that [13:09] brb, try something with windows :P [13:09] be careful to not cut yourself [13:09] any other hardware I should look out for, like must have or avoid? [13:10] think multi touch keypad is somthing I want to try [13:12] nope, still just "diea" :\ [13:13] recon_tv: you might want to check the linlap wiki [13:13] was hoping to wait till the new year sales, but HDD died :( , bit annoying as now I'm now using my TV and media box to surf [13:14] TheSheep: I'll have a look at that , thx [13:14] s/diea/die [13:17] Mathias: would this not be a windows issue? [13:17] don't know exactly [13:17] but it worked before i installed xubuntu [13:17] sorry about the double neg :) [13:17] :P [13:18] Mathias: all i can think of is that windows expects it's boot loader and cries if it's not there on resume. [13:19] recon_tv: but grub does call windows boot loader [13:23] but there probably is something, I would think Mathias is not lying, and a issue like this is going to be in windows so ignored by linux people. Also ignored by windows people "What do you mean you loaded linux, It's you fault!!!, restore it to factory default and it'll work" baa [13:24] kind of in limbo [13:25] Mathias: you looked for other people having the same issues ? [13:25] not so extremely much [13:25] but on some laptops it works and on others it won't [13:28] Mathias, So it's got a hardware element, is your laptop new? I'd be looking for advanced features in power management supported by you laptop. [13:29] when I add new files to Templates directory, they appear in contextual menu. How I can add to them icons in this menu? They looks like blank file only [13:30] olbi: just give them the right extension and content for the file type === TheCount is now known as Guest77859 [13:32] Disabling these features in windows/bios likely the best fix. I'd be looking to find other people with the same problem and find out what hardware they got and what windows version. also try find people with the same laptop as you and see if they have the same problem. But this is really a windows issue. [13:34] hi! how could I register in this channel? [13:34] Mathias: so my guess is it a very new method of saving battery life thats badly coded and tightly bound to the default factory setup of windows. [13:34] damnit [13:34] windows raped my xubuntu again [13:35] Guest77859: you don't need to register use "/nick " to change screen name [13:36] any way to easily restore the ext4 partition in windows? [13:37] recon_tv: it says me 'Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable' === recon_tv is now known as recon-lap [13:38] Guest77859: maybe without the caps /nick "newname" [13:38] Guest77859: also /msg nickserv help [13:38] f it, i'll reinstall xubuntu again :\ [13:39] and windows still won't hibernate :s [13:39] Mathias: does windows even understand ext partitions ? and what do you mean by windows raped you partition? [13:40] tried marking the /dev/sda2 (which is windows) as "active/boot") [13:41] Mathias: lol, just like MS, try hold the non techs hostage. glad I got myself off MS's crap years ago. [13:42] recon-lap thanks. now I see [13:42] there's two reasons i still use it, world of tanks (game) and school [13:43] Mathias: love tank games, you ever try wwiiol? had a bad addiction to that years ago, it would only run on windows too. thats was a added plus of getting rid of windows, I was badly addicted to that game. [13:44] maybe i'll try the wubi option [13:47] Mathias: Have a look in you BOIS for power management features, I'd guess disabling one of them likely to fix you hibernate problem. but it's a tricky area. as to windows messing with you boot drive setting without asking, thats just rude!!! [13:47] have they removed the install (x)ubuntu in windows option? :\ [13:49] Mathias: dont know, but did not see it when I loaded up my 12.04 usb today. was not looking though [13:50] Mathias: anyway wubi sucks as far as I'v heard. [13:51] damnit :\ [13:51] anyway, going shopping [13:52] weird [13:52] it didn't rape it, but it did something [14:02] some1 will plan to journey FOSDEM 2013? :) I will be there at 80% :) [14:08] Anyway, I'm going to burn the iso file of xubuntu in a usb stick, I downloaded and installed the free program ISOtoUSB, I started it, I selected the ISO file from my pc, I selected the USB drive, but under FIle System I don't know what to choose between FAT, FAT32, exFAT, NTFS. Can someone help me, please? [14:09] Monte_Cristo, it should be fat32 but you should not have to care about that [14:09] use unetbootin, it should do all the things for you instead [14:09] unetbootin++ [14:10] unetbootin <3 [14:10] or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator [14:11] GridCube, thank you. [14:11] Now, I'm going to download unetbootin [14:16] Other question: is it necessary to close all the applications which are running in my pc when I burn? [14:16] like the antivirus, firefox... [14:16] Monte_Cristo, not really [14:16] ok [14:16] it just converts it and copies it, but if you have low specs it can be fasters if you do [14:17] ok [14:35] I apologize in advance, because I'm going to harass you with so many questions lol. Could you tell me what I should do, after that I will start the computer from the USB stick to install Xubuntu? The installation will be immediate and intuitive, or I will have to know first what steps to take? If the answer is the second could you help me? There is an online tutorial? a few days ago I have bought a netbook Asus Eee X101CH with [14:36] I decided to switch to Xubuntu to make my computer faster. However, to use programs that only operate with Windows, I would keep both operating systems, Windows and Xubuntu. In your opinion, keep them both, could slow down even more the computer? Last question: when installing Xubuntu there will be the option to create a partition where you want the new system? Even here: the procedure is simple or do I have to know something [14:36] Thank you, and please excuse my extreme ignorance in these matters. I'm trying to learn, but it's hard to be alone. [14:36] Monte_Cristo: i would load the live CD up... you can do that from USB.. check it out and install from there [14:37] keeping windows around will only take up hard drive space.. no noticable performance change in either operating system [14:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall [14:38] xubuntu uses same installer [14:38] as always, i would back up all data, and know how to recover windows in case there is an issue [14:42] thank you Sysi. It's just what I wanted, the use of images facilitates understanding. [14:43] ok, wubi didn't work, windows throws bluescreens at me when i try to format the partition and the bios is locked. lets try pxe, if that doesn't work i'll piss on the harddrive [14:45] wubi doesnt make a partition... maybe its a failing hard drive? [14:45] wubi isn't very trustworthy generally [14:45] holstein: brand new harddrive [14:45] was going to use wubi temporarily [14:45] Mathias: i test.. new hard drives fail too, and *all* hard drives fail [14:45] Mathias, it being new doesnt means that it can not be faulty [14:46] might be windows' way to annoy people [14:47] holstein: ok, I decided to keep both systems. then I'm going to run a small back up data [14:47] Monte_Cristo: i would backup prior to doing any partition resizing [14:48] ok [14:52] i'm going to work. thanks and see you later === xubuntu is now known as Guest31839 [15:08] i have a newbie question: i installed latest xububtu, and ati gr.drivers. and i cant watch even youtube without great lag [15:09] i have old laptop, sempron3200+ and radeon x1100 [15:09] ram 3gb [15:10] even windows 7 wasn't so slow, win xp has no lag at all [15:11] Guest31839, go to a youtube video and go to the configuration menu for flash player and disable hardware acceleration [15:19] i tried, but SETTINGS menu is grey - can't access [15:19] m [15:20] you have the same problems using default drivers? [15:21] do you have problems using other videos? like default media players? [15:21] have you installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras? [15:22] its youtube setted to use html5? [15:25] ok, now i disabled hardware acceleration, restarted, and the same old lag === Guest31839 is now known as greg22 [15:34] greg22, did you read my questions? [15:36] moment [15:37] lag with default drivers, new drivers, using flash, or html5 [15:37] now i'm tinstalled g.monkey [15:39] it's like using win xp without graphic drivers installed [15:40] lag everywhere [15:40] mmhm [15:41] i would try with the chrome browser to troubleshoot the flash version [15:41] i would try with the vesa driver as well [15:42] you could also join the #ati channel [15:42] its challenging sometimes when there is poor support for your hardware... you wont be able to use the windows drivers though, so its not really constructive to compare the XP and win7 performance [15:42] thanx :) [15:43] threres nothing in ubuntu or linux preventing the graphics hardware from being supported... if it were me, i might load up an old 10.04 live cd as well and test an older kernel [15:50] is there a way to increase the size of scrollbars globally (including firefox) in 12.04? [16:16] i'll try 10.04... also chrome has lag.... all brousers have lag even when scrooling down web page [17:23] hello, i have problem, ive installed xubuntu on my asus eee pc x101ch and the videos are lagging. any advice? [17:27] vermundo: all video? or just in flash in the browser? you can try the chrome browser as a troubleshooting step for flash.. you can run lspci and see what the exact intel gpu is and search for bugs... i had a 1015* with a tricky gpu [17:31] flash videos run perfect, but at 1080p they begin to lag. Same goes for the .avi files. cant watch any movies, they lag too. [17:31] use smplayer or other mplayer player for highdef video [17:32] flash video at 1080 will fail on linux, thats to be expected [17:33] basically you're runnig out of cpu/gpu [17:33] I'd try mplayer2 [17:34] ok, mplayer worked, thank you :) any solution for flash 1080p videos? [17:34] if you have proper graphics drivers and acceleration enabled already, no [17:35] not sure about that though , how do i make sure that acceleration is enabled? [17:36] right click on video and see flash properties [17:37] right clic on avideo go to configuration and the first tab should have a "enable hardware aceleration" checkbox [17:38] hi there [17:38] ok, thanks :) [17:40] !hi | coneone [17:40] coneone: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:40] yesterday i dared to install Xubuntu just because it was available, then after having installed and updated (during and after install) i ran into some _strange_ issue: apt somehow appended ":http" to each host in /etc/apt/sources.list [17:42] so there was no way to update or downgrade or change the system, i even tried to manually append ":80" after each hostname in /etc/apt/sources.list, no luck my system was kind of petrified just because of this! [17:43] i installed ubuntu and i'll install lxde as soon as i get tired of cinnamon [17:43] coneone: did you add a ppa for cinamon? [17:44] coneone: i would just look at the sources and see that they are what you are expecting... get sudo apt-get update to run without any issues [17:44] theres nothing about XFCE or xubuntu-desktop that should change your sources [17:45] holstein, naw man there was no way to even think of something like that, all i did was install and update... IIRC [17:45] you can always try to change the software sources from synaptic [17:46] coneone: you installed xubuntu? fresh? from a live CD? [17:46] holstein, i verified the sources.list, there was no CRLF... at least vi(nvi? vim?) did not complain. [17:47] coneone: whats the issue then? [17:47] holstein, xubuntu from a USB-stick that was lying around . i cannot telll you how old this image is. [17:48] coneone: what version of xubntu is it? maybe its end of life [17:48] coneone: i would look at the sources list.. pastebin it here if you need a 2nd opinion [17:49] *blush* im sorry to have wasted your time, i cant remember the version either. [17:49] i would run sudo apt-get update, and work through any errors [17:50] you can open a terminal and run "cat etc/issue" [17:51] coneone: if its a fresh install, maybe you just want to go and get a new xubuntu 12.04 iso and make a new stick and reinstall [17:51] coneone, whats the results of uname -a ? [17:51] the sources list was clean, i can tell you, and after having manually added the suffix ":80" to each host in sources.list APT did not replace my value but it stopped with "cannot resolve hostname de.archive.ubuntu.org:80" [17:51] im using ubuntu 12.04 and IIRC this USB-stick also installed 12.04 [17:52] coneone: ubuntu? or xubuntu? [17:52] USB-stick(bad install case im talking about) = Xubuntu 12.04, my system _now_ ubuntu12.04 [17:52] ok [17:52] coneone: you can clear up quite a few of these variables easily by pastebin-ing the sources list and running that command and seeing that it is 12.04.1 [17:53] coneone, check if you can choose other sources from synaptic [17:55] i think i tried that changing from de.archive to archive or sth like that, but it was all in vain! "name or hostname not found" [17:55] i had internet with firefox === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [18:18] apt-get update exited 1 because of "failed to resolve hostname de.archive.ubuntu.org:http" OR (after having edited sources.list using VI editor) "failed to revolve hostname de.archive.ubuntu.org:80" [18:19] coneone: if you'd like, pastebin your sources file here [18:19] !paste | coneone [18:19] coneone: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:20] coneone: i didnt edit each line and add a port to mine, and you shouldnt have to change them [18:20] you should be able to use the default one, no problem [18:20] i cannot to that because i already installed ubuntu <- without XXX ;) [18:20] do even [18:21] I can not login to my account after an upgrade however I can login by getting a terminal with same information [18:21] what is the reason for this [18:21] any ideas [18:22] coneone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1211541/ is working fine for me... [18:23] utab: typo [18:23] ? [18:24] coneone: im not following what "without xxx" means [18:24] utab i say it might be your keyboard-mapping [18:25] you could temporarily set the password to something simpler that the keyboard wouldnt fail while typing and confirm [18:25] hostein ubuntu without the Character(letter) "X" [18:25] coneone: xubuntu *is* ubuntu [18:25] the sources are all the same [18:26] holstein then how come i can perfectly update and use apt now? [18:26] coneone: ? [18:26] coneone: whats the problem then? [18:26] holstein ubuntu = main distri, xubuntu = version of ubuntu. [18:27] coneone: they all use the same repos [18:27] coneone: there is no xubuntu repo.. the packages are all in the main repo [18:27] holstein but what went wrong yesterday? [18:27] holstein: no I can login with my password in terminal login [18:28] coneone: I used a mac keyboard for that and guessed that however changing the keyboard also did not help [18:28] utab: ok.. so i think the keyboard mapping suggestion is a good one.. you can temporarily set your password to something simpler and try it [18:28] utab are u using unity? [18:28] coneone: im still not clear that anything went wrong yesterday... if all is well now, it could have been a netowrk issue, or a mirro down.. anything really [18:29] coneone: so, there is no issue with your system? [18:29] utab there might be something wrong with the unity-greeter or gdm-greeter [18:29] coneone: I do not use that [18:29] utab: and how about with a simpler password? something with just lowercase letters. as a test [18:29] coneone: I should reinstall these two from the terminal?? [18:30] my old password was also simple 4 numbers ;P [18:31] coneone: it is not strange [18:32] utab try to add a user without password and try to login, if that fails you might have a problem with authentification on your system. [18:32] not to find gdm-greeter with apt-cache search?? [18:32] it is part of gdm [18:33] utab [18:33] I tried that already I created another user and I can login to that one [18:33] oh [18:33] however all my data is on the old home dire [18:33] utab so it first accepts your password and then you get flickering screen and it asks again? [18:34] exactly no errors warnings go back to login screen [18:34] okay [18:36] yeah, i dont think thats a failing password [18:36] ok let me try sth else, since I have dual screens let me take the VGA one off [18:36] well then... do the following: (WARNING this will CHANGE your system) login as root, then cd /home/user, then mkdir old, then mv .* old, then mv * old, then try to login again! [18:37] i would start moving things out of the home directory related to config [18:37] holstein jinx! [18:37] no need to login as root [18:37] renaming... shouldnt need root access to fix the issue since you can login as a newuser [18:37] ever [18:37] bazhang, true [18:37] coneone, so dont suggest it [18:38] bazhang, im sorry , it has been a while i last chatted on IRC [18:39] ok the problem is not dual monitors, still having the same issuer [18:40] just to be sure once more I logged into the new created account and it is fine [18:40] utab, you can login to the terminal?, then do it using the normal user [18:41] cant install from usb , enters the setup t some text run on the screen then stucks [18:41] help me please !! [18:41] coneone: I am guessing that there is a permission wise problem. [18:42] utab then you should get an error by typing "ls" after login [18:42] cant install from usb , enters the setup t some text run on the screen then stucks help me please !! [18:43] that's not very descriptive [18:44] utab i yould rather say there is a messed up entry somehow in /home/user/.xsession [18:44] coneone: ok, now my home dir of my old profile seems to with drwx------ access privilages [18:45]