[07:38] <anyfrancis> Hello
[07:38] <anyfrancis> How do I join a dev team?
[11:36] <ogra_> highvoltage, got it (finally) ...
[11:36] <ogra_> (40€ taxes... )
[12:46] <highvoltage> anyfrancis: hey there
[12:47] <highvoltage> anyfrancis: good place to start is to subscribe to edubuntu-devel mailing list and send an introduction email,looking at the bug list on launchpad and finding edubuntu bugs that interest you could help you find what you're interested in
[12:48] <highvoltage> anyfrancis: we have a few things that need packaging for 13.04, if you're interested in packaging
[12:48] <highvoltage> ogra_: great, pitty about the taxes though
[12:48] <ogra_> well, germany, shrug
[12:48] <ogra_> cant argue with a customs officer :)
[12:49] <ogra_> next time just send it in pieces, packaged up to 22€ are tax free ;)
[12:49] <ogra_> *packages
[12:50] <ogra_> funnily if i would have hand carried it on a flight it would have been completely free (450€ limit)
[15:53] <highvoltage> ogra_: ok will do
[15:53] <highvoltage> ogra_: stgraber is already good at turning it into pieces
[15:54] <ogra_> hahaha
[15:57] <stgraber> yeah, not so good at doing it without breaking the touchscreen layer sadly ;)
[15:59] <ogra_> pfft, touchscreens are so overrated, especially on tablets
[16:31] <ogra_> stgraber, highvoltage, i assume someone already made a backup of the original image and i dont have to bother ?
[16:36] <stgraber> ogra_: yeah, the original image can be found on zareason's website
[16:37] <ogra_> ah, great, so i can mess it up
[16:37] <stgraber> ogra_: and can be flashed with a tool on Windows if the unit is completely broken
[16:37] <ogra_> seems my display has a really bright spot at the top right corner ...
[16:37] <stgraber> the a10 can enter some recovery mode allowing full reflash of the internal memory
[16:37] <ogra_> looks like an extra LED pushing against the screen from the back or so
[16:38] <stgraber> weird, haven't seen that on the two we have here, maybe it didn't like all that traveling
[16:38] <ogra_> yeah, well, it works i wont worry
[16:38] <stgraber> ogra_: anyway, do you still have that pastebin I gave alkis and you the other day? with that you should be able to get a microsd card to get you to a blank screen at boot time
[16:39] <ogra_> for initial bringup i wont need the screen anyway :)
[16:39] <ogra_> yup, still have it
[16:39] <stgraber> that same microsd would boot the pre-prod model just fine, so my guess (well, infinity's) is that the model number is just wrong in uboot + kernel and that changing it there + rebuilding both should do the trick
[16:40] <stgraber> then, apparently the kubuntu folks managed to get X working on theirs (pre-prod), so it should be easy to get something wroking (but not accelerated) once we can get the kernel to boot
[16:40] <ogra_> oh, you mean its not just not initing the csreen
[16:40] <ogra_> *screen
[16:40] <ogra_> as soon as we have framebuffer everything should be fine
[16:42] <stgraber> nah, AFAICT the kernel doesn't even boot. I've been trying to check for that by looking at the ext partition mount counter and it's clearly not incrementing
[16:43] <stgraber> once the kernel boots, we should at least be getting log files on the partition and can get wifi + ssh working, then get the rest working from there
[16:43] <stgraber> (which the kubuntu folks apparently managed to do with the pre-prod model)
[16:44] <ogra_> there is no serial on the mini USB port ?
[16:50] <ogra_> hmm, i guess downloads are in the protected area of the zareason page ?
[16:53] <stgraber> ogra_: nope, they are public but a bit hidden, let me find the URL
[16:53] <ogra_> no hurry
[16:53] <stgraber> ogra_: there's no serial of micro USB sadly. There is what looks like a uart (3 pin) connector on the board but I haven't had the time to try hooking to that yet
[16:54] <ogra_> k
[16:54] <ogra_> so flying blind it is
[16:54] <stgraber> ogra_: http://zareason.net/android/zatab/
[16:54] <ogra_> thx
[16:54] <ogra_> hmm, your script builds with the defconfig
[16:54] <ogra_> are you sure thats not selecting all the android bits by default ?
[16:55] <stgraber> it might, though according to rbelem, that's what they've been using on their unit...
[16:56] <ogra_> k
[16:57] <ogra_> also did you actually read out the android cmdline and /proc/config.gz from the device when running android ?
[16:57] <ogra_> would likely be good to have for comparison
[16:59] <stgraber> hmm, nope, didn't do that, that'd indeed be good to have
[16:59] <ogra_> right, i'll try to capture it from mine then
[16:59] <ogra_> its usually good to start from that config on an android device
[16:59] <ogra_> and just disable the android bits
[17:01] <stgraber> also, not sure how much you read on the a10 yet, but the boot sequence is a bit weird. The firmware basically looks for a specific flag on both nand1 and emmc1, starting with emmc, if it finds a device with that flag, it tries to mount the vfat partition and parses script.bin which contains a bunch of hardware settings, script.bin typically then gets the device to chain boot uboot which then boots the OS
[17:02] <stgraber> one clear difference between pre-prod and prod is that script.bin which is quite a bit different
[17:02] <ogra_> i didnt plan to repartition or anything so no worries
[17:03] <ogra_> and if i can avoid it i wont touch the first stage bootloader
[17:04] <ogra_> sigh, if it would only finish charging ...
[17:04] <ogra_> sits at 99% since hours
[17:14] <highvoltage> heh, while reading the backlog of this chanel I bricked my phone ;(
[17:14] <highvoltage> (well, a not-expensive phone that I just got, but still)
[17:15] <stgraber> didn't last long ;)
[17:26] <highvoltage> at least it came back after I had the battery out for a while (shew)
[17:58] <highvoltage> ogra_: still charging?