[00:32] <darkxst> jbicha, I suppose it needs to be finished before beta freeze?
[00:34] <jbicha> not exactly, we can get exceptions all the way until Final Freeze; of course, the sooner the better
[00:35] <darkxst> ok, np, I will have a play with it a bit later today
[08:23] <Pricey> names
[15:34] <smartboyhw> Oh jbicha is not here
[17:09] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, smartboyhw was looking for you earlier, but /die'd
[17:10] <jbicha> it's rather late in his timezone
[17:11] <jbicha> he's welcome to email the list if he needs something
[17:13] <TheLordOfTime> :)
[19:01] <TheLordOfTime> !gnome-remix
[19:01] <TheLordOfTime> SILENCE UBOT5!
[19:01] <TheLordOfTime> I CONDEMN YOU!
[20:56] <darkxst> jbicha, did you want to keep the ubuntu logo in plymouth theme
[20:58] <jbicha> my instinct is to leave it out, but I haven't thought about it too much
[21:22] <darkxst> jbicha, https://www.dropbox.com/s/7k2aw3vgq8zadlx/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-19%2007%3A15%3A06.png
[21:22] <darkxst> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxkpvfpctaa1k27/Screenshot%20from%202012-09-19%2007%3A16%3A06.png
[21:24] <darkxst> I think it would be best to leave a progress indicator, however if we drop the logo, that particular one isnt great
[21:25] <jbicha> my thinking was that the progress indicator could be the blinds shifting or scrolling across the screen
[21:25] <jbicha> i.e. no dots needed
[21:25] <jbicha> just an idea, I don't know how much work that is to implement, or if I'm even describing it clearly enough
[21:52] <darkxst> oh
[21:53] <darkxst> I suppose that might be possible
[22:00] <jbicha> yeah, sorry for not explaining what I was looking for at all :(
[22:06] <darkxst> atleast in the X11 renderer its a bit jittery
[22:07] <darkxst> i.e. scrolling the image across the screen
[22:11] <darkxst> Its probably just too much work for plymouth to handle (presumably its redrawing the picture each frame :( )
[22:18] <darkxst> jbicha, I think you would need to create the illusion of moving, by having say 5 images
[22:19] <darkxst> and carefully cross-fading across the images
[23:45] <darkxst> jbicha, so basically I think we stick with the fade-in animation for 12.10
[23:45] <darkxst> your scrolling blinds will require new artwork, and probably be quite tricky to design
[23:47] <jbicha> what do you mean by fade-in animation?
[23:47] <darkxst> I do have an idea for a progress indicator though, if we are allowed to  use ubuntu artwork?
[23:48] <darkxst> my current animation, is like a fast version of the animated wallpaper
[23:48] <jbicha> I believe we can use the ubuntu logo
[23:48] <darkxst> can be color it?
[23:48] <darkxst> I am thinking we could use the circle of friends as an indicator
[23:48] <darkxst> ^logo
[23:48] <jbicha> ummm...maybe
[23:49] <darkxst> something like the orange shaded version of the logo (but in colours from the blinds pallete)
[23:50] <darkxst> and have the colours spinning around the logo
[23:53] <jbicha> you could post screenshots or a video to the list
[23:54] <jbicha> clean and simple is probably best (in other words, my blinds idea was probably too much; I guess there's a reason plymouth boot screen tend to have relatively simple animation)
[23:55] <darkxst> the fade-in works well, except we can't know how long the boot will take :(
[23:56] <darkxst> i.e its start at night blinds and fade through to the bright image
[23:56] <darkxst> hmm video of fade-in or logo indicator?
[23:56] <jbicha> can you fade back to the darker blinds?
[23:57] <darkxst> yes, I could loop it around
[23:58] <darkxst> although that kind of breaks my idea, of its like the computer slowly coming awake
[23:59] <jbicha> I believe Fedora has used a horizontal scrollbar for a few years so they've figured out how to measure boot status to some degree
[23:59] <jbicha> but Ubuntu tends to use a loop