[05:32] <Canaimero-15d6> hola canaimeros!8-)
[07:37] <tumbleweed> stgraber, Laney: yes, it is part of my branch
[15:59] <hallyn> \o
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> is jamespage left-handed, or am i seeing the back of his head?
[16:01] <zul> helo
[16:01] <utlemming> \o
[16:02] <smb> o\
[16:02] <SpamapS> {o}  <-- check out those guns
[16:03] <hallyn> BEEFCAKE
[16:03] <SpamapS> follow your dreams
[16:03] <hallyn> :)
[16:03] <arosales> hello
[16:03] <jamespage> Ursinha, around to chair?
[16:05] <jamespage> hmm - maybe not
[16:05] <jamespage> jimbaker - how would you like the hotseat this week?
[16:06] <jimbaker> jamespage, uh, can i pass?
[16:06] <jimbaker> i was hoping to just listen in a little bit and get some other work done
[16:06]  * jamespage goes down the list
[16:06] <jamespage> m_3?
[16:06] <jamespage> or if not rbasak?
[16:07] <m_3> jamespage: hi
[16:07] <m_3> jamespage: reading back-channel one sec
[16:07] <jamespage> m_3, chair this week?
[16:07] <m_3> #startmeeting
[16:07] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 18 16:07:37 2012 UTC.  The chair is m_3. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:07] <jamespage> +1
[16:07] <SpamapS> m_3: usually you'll want to name the meeting
[16:07] <m_3> yeah... so I have _no_ clue what I'm doing
[16:08] <jamespage> gotta start somewhere....
[16:08] <SpamapS> m_3: end that meeting..
[16:08] <m_3> #meetingname server meeting
[16:08] <meetingology> The meeting name has been set to 'server_meeting'
[16:08] <SpamapS> m_3: and use the same command, but with 'Server Team' as an arg
[16:08] <SpamapS> oh
[16:08] <SpamapS> even better
[16:08] <SpamapS> hah
[16:08]  * SpamapS does not RTFM
[16:08] <jamespage> who does
[16:08] <zul> never?
[16:08] <jamespage> ?
[16:08] <hallyn> neat.  i've never named the meeting.  learned something today.
[16:08] <arosales> are the commands @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands still correct?
[16:09] <arosales> I have been trying to keep them updated with my learning experiences :-)
[16:09] <jamespage> tep
[16:09] <jamespage> yep
[16:09] <m_3> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:09] <m_3> ok... anyone?
[16:09] <arosales> jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:09] <jamespage> #fail
[16:10] <arosales> jamespage: keep it on for next week?
[16:10] <jamespage> still looking in two places this week
[16:10] <jamespage> yes please
[16:10] <m_3> #topic Quantal Development
[16:10] <m_3> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[16:11] <arosales> #action jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:11] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:11] <m_3> wow, ok beta2 freeze in two days
[16:11] <jamespage> yep - end of thursday
[16:11] <jamespage> get those uploads done quick....
[16:12] <jamespage> actually its normally around 2100 UTC I think
[16:12] <jamespage> ...
[16:12] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.10-beta-2
[16:12] <m_3> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:13] <m_3> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:13]  * jamespage picks up
[16:14] <jamespage> bug 1049305
[16:14] <m_3> jamespage: thanks, there're so many
[16:14] <adam_g> i've tried my best to help reproduce that glance bug (which, if it exists, should trigger easily on pkg install) but i've had no luck at all with it
[16:15] <jamespage> for future reference its probably worth holding off subing ubuntu-server-release until something is actually confirmed...
[16:15] <jamespage> IMHO
[16:15] <adam_g> +1
[16:15] <jamespage> bug 1049582
[16:15] <jamespage> I hit last week testing rados on armhf
[16:15] <jamespage> I still need to progress that
[16:16] <jamespage> hallyn still has bug 1040033 in hand
[16:16] <hallyn> jamespage: i'm not sure what to do with that
[16:16] <hallyn> i could ask for massive FFE to get the newest qemu-kvm in the archive...
[16:16] <hallyn> but i gues si'l lspend the afternoon seeing if i can track down the commit that fixed it
[16:16] <hallyn> (for the record, newest upstream release fixed the bug)
[16:16] <hallyn> (obviously, there is no telling how many bugs it introduced)
[16:17] <hallyn> (though it worked pretty well for me)
[16:17] <jamespage> hallyn, always tough when there is no obvious fix - good luck
[16:17] <jamespage> I'm guessing its not impacting huge numbers of people as we don't have lots of dupes...
[16:17] <SpamapS> hallyn: are there any features in the latest upstream release?
[16:18] <SpamapS> hallyn: if its just bug fixes, its not really a feature freeze exception :)
[16:18] <hallyn> SpamapS: well, 6k commits
[16:18] <SpamapS> lol
[16:18] <m_3> bug 1046340
[16:18] <SpamapS> have fun w/ that bisect
[16:18] <hallyn> SpamapS: thanks :)
[16:18] <hallyn> SpamapS: i think i'll go ask on #ubuntu-release later today
[16:19] <hallyn> i was waiting for jdstrand to test though
[16:19] <jamespage> anyone wanna grab that one?  nice easy fix if confirmed?
[16:19] <jdstrand> this is on my list for today
[16:19] <hallyn> jdstrand: thanks!
[16:19] <m_3> cool
[16:20] <jdstrand> I got sidetracked with backlog and patchpiloting yesterday...
[16:20] <m_3> do we go through the remaining bugs for other teams or mirs we're tracking?
[16:20] <m_3> or shall I move on to blueprints?
[16:20] <jamespage> m_3, not this week - genshi is still blocked upstream and all distros don't have fix yet
[16:20] <arosales> jamespage: should we review http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html or http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[16:21] <jamespage> arosales, I don't think we need to this week - I did take a look through prior to the meeting
[16:21] <m_3> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:21] <m_3> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:21] <arosales> jamespage: ok
[16:21] <jamespage> I still need to complete last weeks action with SpamapS (review juju bugs)
[16:23] <m_3> so I'll go through the red ones.. starting with: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-security-essential.html
[16:23] <arosales> m_3: probably just need to hit the ones that have servercloud in the name
[16:23] <arosales> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html has a shorter list
[16:24] <m_3> arosales: gotcha... thanks
[16:24] <m_3> ok, what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:25] <arosales> zul: beta2 target still ok for that one?
[16:25] <jamespage> lots todo in 8 days....
[16:25] <zul> arosales: i dont think it should be targeted for any release since it doesnt affect the release in anyway (imho)
[16:25] <m_3> done
[16:26] <m_3> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices ?
[16:26] <arosales> zul: ok, i'll update the milestone to the latest the tool lets me :-)
[16:26] <SpamapS> zul: it does affect the release because it takes the resources off other things in the release.
[16:26] <zul> k
[16:27] <zul> SpamapS:  meaning that folsom is not going to being delayed because we havent done the benchmark for cloud images on openstack
[16:27] <m_3> charm ratings count for triaging some of this one... impl on the other hand...
[16:27] <arosales> servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices has some remaining todos for jcastro, m_3, SpamapS, and hazmat
[16:28] <arosales> target 12.10 still ok?
[16:28] <SpamapS> yeah I think that one was always understood as stuff we would work on throughout the release cycle
[16:28] <m_3> we can update some of it to postponed
[16:28] <m_3> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-deployment?
[16:28] <m_3> rbasak, smoser ?
[16:29] <rbasak> It's going well now I think
[16:29] <rbasak> I've started landing fixes in trunk. I expect to take another few weeks to finish everything
[16:29] <rbasak> smoser is working on ephemeral images for arm
[16:29] <arosales> rbasak: good to hear :-)
[16:29] <jamespage> \o/
[16:30] <m_3> I guess https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom falls into the same category as openstack-qa then
[16:31] <zul> its going good
[16:31] <zul> although nova rc1/cinder rc1 has been delayed
[16:31] <arosales> zul: is that a beta2 target or a ga target, or no of the above :-)
[16:31] <adam_g> those openstack MIRs
[16:31] <adam_g> need tracking for release
[16:32] <zul> quantum MIR is done
[16:32]  * arosales updates milestone to beta2
[16:32] <zul> er...nm me
[16:33] <m_3> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review ?
[16:34] <arosales> Ursinha: jamespage: are you guys working on the final bug list for the bug triage process?
[16:34]  * jamespage #fail
[16:34]  * m_3 realizes now he should've gone in {priority,red} order
[16:35] <jamespage> gravity report is still good
[16:35] <jamespage> but I've failed to catchup with Ursinha - we are good at missing each other
[16:35] <Ursinha> arosales, I"m constantly working on it :) still have to catch up with jamespage about it thout
[16:35] <Ursinha> though
[16:35] <arosales> still a target for 12.10 release?
[16:35] <jamespage> yeah
[16:35] <m_3> ok, so what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-maas-next-steps ?
[16:35] <arosales> ok, thanks Ursinha and jamespage
[16:36] <arosales> roaksoax:  here?
[16:36] <m_3> anything moving on maas other than rbasak's merges?
[16:36] <arosales> smoser: MAAS next steps ?
[16:37] <m_3> ok, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
[16:37] <smoser> well... we're working on maas next steps :)
[16:37] <m_3> hmmm... we should work on that one
[16:37] <m_3> s/work on/update/
[16:38] <m_3> sorry... jumped the gun... smoser anything else to add on maas?
[16:38] <smoser> for maas next steps, there is probably some stuff that roaksoax, rbasak and i are spending time on that are not represented there.
[16:38] <smoser> but ... sure . othe rthan that it seems reasonable.
[16:39] <m_3> ok, so that brings us to my personal fav https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:39] <Nikodem153> Hi Ubu Users
[16:39] <m_3> Nikodem153: hi
[16:40] <m_3> needs updating/postponing... framework's there, but we need to implement '/tests' in charms
[16:40] <arosales> smoser: also do you think we should go ahead and postpone https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-powernap-opencompute-integration
[16:40] <smoser> i think so, yes.
[16:40] <arosales> smoser: ok
[16:41] <m_3> anything else to bring up on blueprints?  that covers all the red ones
[16:41] <Nikodem153> Who is from Poland?
[16:41] <arosales> thanks for stepping through those m_3 :-)
[16:41] <jamespage> Nikodem153, this is a specific meeting channel - try #ubuntu
[16:41] <m_3> there's one yellow essential... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-archive
[16:42] <m_3> ok, moving along...
[16:42] <m_3> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:42] <SpamapS> ODS is just around the corner in about 1 month
[16:43] <SpamapS> http://www.openstack.org/summit/san-diego-2012/
[16:43] <m_3> strata and UDS shortly thereafter
[16:43] <arosales> jimbaker: presenting at local Big Data meetup
[16:43] <SpamapS> ALso the SCALE11x CFP is open. Good mid-size conference that has a broad Linux focus.
[16:44] <m_3> sc2012 is local in november... thinking about that one
[16:44] <SpamapS> (SCALE is in Los Angeles, so its also a good place to meet cool people like that guy SpamapS)
[16:44] <SpamapS> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x/
[16:44] <m_3> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:45] <jamespage> psivaa, ping - you are on
[16:45] <jamespage> psivaa, is covering for hggdh today
[16:45] <plars> if not, I have something quick
[16:45] <psivaa> jamespage, yes, we do not have any comments
[16:45] <m_3> plars: you're on
[16:45] <plars> related to minimal system requirements for the server images
[16:46] <plars> previously, 128M has been the stated minimum ram
[16:46] <plars> but both i386 and amd64 fail to install with that little
[16:46] <plars> at least on amd64 (unsure about i386 at the moment) we can install with 256, but still get lots of OOMs
[16:46] <rbasak> I think I observed that recently
[16:46] <plars> additionally
[16:47] <plars> it's been stated as recently as 12.04 that 1G is sufficient for all tasks installed
[16:47] <jamespage> plars, for server?
[16:47] <plars> on amd64 at least, 1G is sufficient for base system with no tasks, and leaves you with about 40M (!) left at the end, but only if you manually partition and use no swap (all 1G for /)
[16:47] <plars> jamespage: yes
[16:47] <jamespage> 1G of storage?
[16:48] <jamespage> sorry - I think I missed the switch from RAM->DISK
[16:48]  * jamespage <- asker of dumb questions today
[16:48] <plars> for reference, I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html for guidance about 500M being sufficient for base install and 1G for all tasks
[16:49] <jamespage> meh - give me an action to review that please m_3
[16:49] <plars> the background is that I'm working on setting up a daily test that checks image installation against minimum system requirements
[16:49] <plars> and if the increase is intentional, fine, it's just a documentation fix
[16:49] <m_3> #action jamespage look into running server with no elbow-room
[16:49] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage look into running server with no elbow-room
[16:49] <plars> otherwise this could be something you want to address soon
[16:50] <plars> +1 for elbows :)
[16:50] <m_3> plars: yes, thanks!
[16:50] <jamespage> plars, minimal virtual install is about ~680MB
[16:50] <jamespage> on amd64 so its possible
[16:50] <hallyn> it'd be worth making sure there's no obvious savings to be had
[16:51] <plars> jamespage: at least recently, selecting no tasks on a server iso install gets me to about 1G used post-install
[16:51] <plars> I haven't tried today's image, but maybe... 2 days ago at the most?
[16:51] <jamespage> OK _ leave it with me - I'll pick this up
[16:51] <m_3> cool... anything else for QA team?
[16:51] <jamespage> sounds wrong at both ends - to big install and to low specs
[16:51] <hallyn> thx jamespage
[16:52] <plars> not from me
[16:52] <arosales> #action jamespage to investigate minimum memory requirements for i386 and amd64 server installs
[16:52] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to investigate minimum memory requirements for i386 and amd64 server installs
[16:52] <hallyn> thx plars :)
[16:52] <m_3> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:53] <smb> Hi, I was on vacation last week (in case I was missed), so there is not much to report from that. One question though about running Ubuntu in the cloud: is the target only server guests or desktop guests, too. Asking because the dropping of unity2d together with the current state of things (which makes me weep a lot) is not really ...err... optimal.
[16:53] <plars> oh, one more reference point because it just finished... current i386 server image uses 809M post-install with no tasks selected <done>
[16:53] <arosales> smb: utlemming and smoser can confirm but I think the main target is guests although I think we still have desktop images for EC2
[16:54] <m_3> smb: excellent point... I'm sure _somebody_ somewhere'll wanna run desktop
[16:54] <arosales> for other clouds, ie hp, or azure the only target available is for guests. Again utlemming or smoser please correct me, if I am mistaken
[16:55] <smb> Yeah, I though it might be mainly server guest. Just wanted to raise the topic here to give awareness that this is not looking good right now
[16:55] <utlemming> the dropping of unity2d will affect the EC2 desktop images
[16:55] <smoser> target is server.
[16:56] <smoser> and, yes, smb dropping of unity2d would is detrimental to any "cloud" desktop
[16:56] <utlemming> but the EC2 desktop images are not supported. They are provided as is.
[16:56] <Nikodem153> http://iv.pl/viewer.php?file=28328845554698490564.jpg
[16:56] <smoser> although spice would potentially bring that back with unity 3d i think
[16:56] <smb> xen will see an x crash all the time, kvm will get that about half the time and if it works is using lots of cpu and is slow...
[16:56]  * m_3 pause a moment to pay respects to unity-2d... sniff
[16:56] <smoser> smb, yeah, its going to stink.
[16:57] <smoser> utlemming, hm..
[16:57] <arosales> smoser: utlemming: if indeed 2d gets dropped how should EC2 desktop images proceed?
[16:57] <smoser> i think though that the cloud-desktiop images for quantal are then affected
[16:57] <smoser> i believe they add the unity-2d task?
[16:57] <smoser> if they have a task that is no longer supported or available, clearly we should pull that out.
[16:57] <smb> afaik, there isn't any 2d anymore, its all done via sw rendering
[16:57] <SpamapS> does llvm work w/ vnc?
[16:58] <smoser> i'm not sure what to replace it with, though.
[16:58] <utlemming> that's what I was going to ask
[16:58] <utlemming> smb, smoser: lets table this, and I'll take this as action for next week
[16:58] <m_3> #action utlemming what to do with desktop cloud images without unity-2d
[16:58] <meetingology> ACTION: utlemming what to do with desktop cloud images without unity-2d
[16:58] <utlemming> I think that this needs to be investigated. I believe the RDP server is an option. But llvm-pipe plays into this dicussion as well.
[16:58] <smb> utlemming, Ok, yeah. I did not expect any result here. Just that we all know and are prepared
[16:59] <utlemming> smb: right. I was planning on playing with it. You beat me to the punch
[16:59] <SpamapS> 1 minute
[16:59] <SpamapS> time to wrap up
[16:59] <smb> utlemming, Just because of bug 1038055
[16:59] <arosales> do we know if a lot of folks are using the desktop cloud image <— question for another day
[17:00] <m_3> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[17:00] <rbasak> Working on MAAS on ARM is progressing well, although it is still very tight for 12.10. Any questions for me?
[17:00] <m_3> nope... ok
[17:00] <m_3> #topic Open Discussion
[17:00] <jamespage> ...
[17:01] <SpamapS> ***
[17:01] <m_3> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[17:01] <arosales> Tuesday 2012-09-25 at 1600 UTC
[17:01] <m_3> same bat-time/channel
[17:01] <m_3> #endmeeting
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 18 17:01:23 2012 UTC.
[17:01] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-16.07.moin.txt
[17:01] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-16.07.html
[17:01] <m_3> whew
[17:01] <arosales> thanks m_3 for chairing!
[17:01] <m_3> sorry for the hiccups
[17:01] <jimbaker> m_3, good job
[17:01] <jamespage> thanks m_3
[17:01] <arosales> m_3:  well done
[17:01] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:01] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
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[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:02] <ppisati> Q/omap4: a new Q/omap4 3.5 kernel is out (3.5.0-210.16) and it contains:
[17:02] <ppisati> * fixes for the video/unity flicker bug
[17:02] <ppisati> * an updated kernel based on Ubuntu-3.5.0-14.16
[17:02] <ppisati> Working on restoring rtc/mfd_palmas functionalities at the moment.
[17:02] <ppisati> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-2.html
[17:03] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> We have uploaded the 3.5.0-15.20 Quantal kernel.  This upload most
[17:03] <ogasawara> notably contains an update to the v3.5.4 upstream stable kernel,
[17:03] <ogasawara> eCryptfs bug fixes, and haswell graphics support patches.  This has also
[17:03] <ogasawara> been uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing
[17:03] <ogasawara> of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone to please install,
[17:03] <ogasawara> test, and let us know your feedback.
[17:03] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 20 - Beta 2 Freeze (~2 days)
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 27 - Beta 2 (~1 week)
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 4 - Kernel Freeze (~2 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin> == 2012-09-18 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 76 CVEs on our radar, with 1 CVE added this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (September 18):
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In -updates; 3 CVEs; (9 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Natty - In -updates; 4 CVEs; (9 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In -updates; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (67 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (66 commits)
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix> NOTE: this is the *last* Natty kernel being built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <kamal> o/
[17:05] <jsalisbury> kamal, go
[17:05] <kamal> ogasawara: will quantal be rebased to v3.6?  when?
[17:05] <ogasawara> kamal: no, it'll stay on 3.5
[17:05] <kamal> ogasawara: ok, thanks.    ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Any other discussion or questions?
[17:06] <ogasawara> kamal: if there's anything in v3.6 that you need, send us some patches :)
[17:06] <kamal> ogasawara: oh, I will be!  ;-)
[17:06] <ogasawara> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Anything else today?
[17:07] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:07] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 18 17:07:05 2012 UTC.
[17:07] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-17.01.moin.txt
[17:07] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-17.01.html
[17:07] <sconklin> jsalisbury: thanks
[17:07] <cking> thanks jsalisbury
[17:07] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[18:21] <Dick67> Bonsoir à tous !
[18:23] <Dick67> il y a personne ?
[18:25] <highvoltage> essayer #ubuntu-fr
[18:28] <YoBoY> Dick67, encore trop tôt
[18:35] <Dick67> ça commence à quel heure ?
[18:41] <quesh> Dick67: c'est à 22h00
[18:41] <Dick67> ok Merci
[18:41] <olive> (heure de paris)
[18:43] <YoBoY> quesh, 21H
[18:43] <YoBoY> non ?
[18:43] <YoBoY> ha non 22 autant pour moi
[18:51] <olive> au temps
[19:23] <huats> :)
[19:54] <elfabixx> Ohai !
[19:57] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:58] <YoBoY> Bonsoir :)
[19:59] <elfabixx> YoBoY:  salut !
[19:59] <cm-t> Bonsoir :)
[20:00] <BlackEco> hello
[20:01] <czajkowski> #startmeeting
[20:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 18 20:01:42 2012 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:01] <olive> hello
[20:01] <czajkowski> aloha and welcome to the September Loco council meeting
[20:01] <winael> hello
[20:01] <itnet7> Hey there everyone!
[20:01] <czajkowski> LoCo Council please say hi :)
[20:02] <elfabixx> Hi all !
[20:02] <McPeter> hello
[20:02] <xdatap1> hi everybody
[20:02] <quesh> hello
[20:02] <niko> hi there
[20:02] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/ApprovalApplication2012
[20:03] <piti> hello there
[20:03] <czajkowski> wow
[20:03] <LeMiasme> Hi yall
[20:03] <SwordArMor> Hello
[20:03] <BlackEco> good evening
[20:03] <YoBoY> hi everyone :)
[20:03] <czajkowski> impressive wiki
[20:04] <czajkowski> so who from France is going to lead us
[20:04] <olive> thanks czajkowski :)
[20:04] <cm-t> hi
[20:04] <winael> thx czajkowski
[20:04] <cm-t> tanks thanks
[20:04] <huats> hello there too :)
[20:04] <elfabixx> czajkowski:  I'm french
[20:04] <LeMiasme> French here too
[20:04] <McPeter> +1
[20:04] <olive> +1
[20:04] <huats> french too :)
[20:04] <niko> +1
[20:04] <quesh> +1
[20:05] <cm-t> I ll be our  lecturer
[20:05] <czajkowski> we're not ready to vote yet
[20:05] <czajkowski> eager :)
[20:05] <itnet7> :-)
[20:05] <winael> French +1
[20:05] <czajkowski> cm-t: hey so care to tell us about the French loco
[20:05] <czajkowski> how things are done
[20:05] <czajkowski> issues you've come up against
[20:05] <czajkowski> how are things
[20:05] <czajkowski> :)
[20:06] <BlackEco> french too
[20:07] <cm-t> the think are done fine :)
[20:07] <cm-t> things *
[20:07] <Zic> French too o/
[20:07] <spineaker> o/
[20:08] <cm-t> do you have any question about our application ?
[20:08] <czajkowski> so how has the french loco coped over the last 2 years ( anyone can answer)
[20:08] <olive> c'est pas faux
[20:08] <yougg> French+1
[20:08] <cm-t> ( in english olive :) )
[20:09] <olive> cm-t: so, answer before me
[20:10] <BlackEco> *before I do
[20:10] <czajkowski> cm-t: the application is impressive.
[20:10] <cm-t> so we are done 2 years, with many event all over the France, we try to find new way to catch new people to ubuntu
[20:10] <czajkowski> cm-t: so how do you get people involved in the loco, it's rather large
[20:11] <cm-t> we focused a lot to get new people as user, and as you espected well, now we need to focus to grow our community
[20:11] <itnet7> Very nice job on giving all of the details on the wiki
[20:12] <czajkowski> xdatap1: any questions
[20:12] <olive> we organize great and big events to attract many volounteers
[20:12] <xdatap1> czajkowski, I'm just amazed by their wiki page.
[20:13] <itnet7> ditto
[20:13] <YoBoY> (and there is so much more to put on this page… ^^")
[20:13] <czajkowski> so opening up to anyone YoBoY piti anyone have any comments on the French loco ?
[20:14] <YoBoY> yes, we can do much better
[20:14] <cm-t> oh yes YoBoY :)
[20:14] <czajkowski> YoBoY: so how do you think the loco will grow in next 2 years
[20:15] <czajkowski> Also can the LC help in any way
[20:15] <YoBoY> like lot of locos we have to focus on recruitement of new contributors
[20:15] <olive> we have to expand our Fetivals activity
[20:15] <Trium> o/
[20:15] <YoBoY> I think the loco can have more event orginizers
[20:16] <olive> Festivals*
[20:16] <czajkowski> Can I ask does the looc know about the greater ubuntu community ? or is it all focused in France?
[20:16] <olive> We have to rebuilt our big website
[20:17] <YoBoY> they know we are a big community inside the awesome ubuntu community ;)
[20:17] <olive> Ubuntu-fr is focused on French speaking Countries :) not only France
[20:17] <cm-t> we are mostly France based, but we try to be french speaking
[20:17] <cm-t> olive:  :)
[20:18] <czajkowski> so I just have one comment, and then we can go to votes
[20:18] <czajkowski> Team reports.........
[20:18] <quesh> one of our goals is to develop French spoken countries
[20:18] <czajkowski> am I missing the link somewhere in the application
[20:18] <YoBoY> stoped between august 2011 and may 2012, started again
[20:18] <czajkowski> YoBoY: you know my love for them
[20:19] <YoBoY> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/TeamReports/
[20:19] <olive> French people are very bad to write english.
[20:19] <czajkowski> olive: you know I dont mind if they are in french
[20:19] <czajkowski> I can use google translate
[20:19] <YoBoY> czajkowski, yes I know you love team reports :)
[20:19] <czajkowski> maybe this is something we can better communicate to all teams
[20:19] <czajkowski> ok so in 2 years time can I see 2 years worth of team reports :D
[20:19] <czajkowski> please
[20:20] <YoBoY> we can try, not easy to find someone to write them :]
[20:20] <czajkowski> #voters itnet7 czajkowski xdatap1
[20:20] <meetingology> Current voters: czajkowski itnet7 xdatap1
[20:20] <olive> if team report can be in french, no problem.
[20:20] <YoBoY> olive, they can
[20:20] <olive> so, no problem.
[20:20] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the re approval of France loCo
[20:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of France loCo
[20:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:20] <itnet7> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:20] <czajkowski> +1 fantastic application, bring on the team reports!
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 fantastic application, bring on the team reports! received from czajkowski
[20:21] <winael> we can try to translate it with google translate by ourself too :)
[20:21] <guest2435> +1
[20:21] <itnet7> Very, Very good Application, and Awesome Job!!
[20:21] <czajkowski> guest2435: only loco council can vote
[20:21] <xdatap1> +1 keep up the good work
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work received from xdatap1
[20:21] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of France loCo
[20:21] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:21] <olive> winael: like these application wiki :)
[20:21] <czajkowski> huzzah!
[20:21] <yougg> +1
[20:21] <quesh> +1
[20:21] <YoBoY> thanks everyone :)
[20:21] <huats> thanks !
[20:21] <olive> thanks cm-t
[20:21] <cm-t> thanks you :)
[20:22] <winael> thanks everybody
[20:22] <czajkowski> #action czajkowski update the LP team for france expiration date
[20:22] <McPeter> many thanks
[20:22] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski update the LP team for france expiration date
[20:22] <olive> thanks czajkowski and others :)
[20:22] <czajkowski> thank you all for coming
[20:22] <huats> thanks cm-t, and everyone for took part of it !
[20:22] <quesh> :)
[20:22] <czajkowski> well done!
[20:22] <czajkowski> #endmeeting
[20:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 18 20:22:17 2012 UTC.
[20:22] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-20.01.moin.txt
[20:22] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-18-20.01.html
[20:22] <cm-t> thanks you all helped on that short wiki application
[20:22] <czajkowski> huats: please update out wiki page and team report :)
[20:22] <YoBoY> and congrats French LoCoTeam :D
[20:22] <cm-t> next time we give more details
[20:22] <czajkowski> huats: only fair :)
[20:23] <huats> and thanks to my fellow LC member (especially xdatap1 who change his vote to be able to come back visit Milo :))
[20:23] <winael> \o/ Congrats everybody
[20:23] <xdatap1> huats, LOL
[20:23] <YoBoY> by the way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/ApprovalApplication << for the record, the "global" approval page can be used for links or whatever
[20:23] <quesh> c'est bon, la réunion est finie, on peut parler français
[20:23] <quesh> :)
[20:23] <LeMiasme> Ben c'est passé vite
[20:24] <huats> please guys let's speak in English here
[20:24] <huats> :)
[20:24] <niko> huats: :)
[20:24] <olive> bon ils sont où @vancouver là
[20:24] <lifeless> j'ne parlaiz voz francais
[20:24] <YoBoY> olive, try on their chan
[20:24] <lifeless> or something
[20:24] <cm-t> eheh, @vancouver are on party !
[20:24] <czajkowski> lifeless: evening
[20:24] <lifeless> czajkowski: o/
[20:25] <olive> ubuntu-fr IS the party
[20:25] <olive> ahah!
[20:25] <czajkowski> huats: itnet7 I'll go and update our bugs with the rest of the locoteams due to expire by end of october
[20:25] <BlackEco> thanks!
[20:25] <huats> czajkowski: ok thanks
[20:26] <cm-t> party !
[20:26] <McPeter> open beer
[20:27] <BlackEco> Lets get laid =D
[20:27] <BlackEco> Damn, I have to go to bed T.T
[20:27] <cm-t> bonne nuit BlackEco
[20:27] <BlackEco> merci, vous aussi
[20:27] <BlackEco> et bravo pour le boulot
[20:28] <winael> goodnight BlackEco
[20:30] <olive> et sinon c'est quand la question sur les graphs qui se cassent la gueule ?
[20:30] <olive> bon ok.
[20:44] <cm-t> pas faux