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krosswindz | I was wondering if someone could help me with a question on packaging for my ppa | 03:24 |
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krosswindz | i want to build a package for which i want to build-depend on an older version of the package from my ppa rather than a newer version from ubuntu main | 03:25 |
krosswindz | I tried to set the version in build depend package foo(= version-bar) then I get an error | 03:25 |
krosswindz | "missing build dependencies" | 03:26 |
krosswindz | any way I could fix this so that I can build the package with an older version of one of its dependencies | 03:26 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:55 |
geser | good morning dholbach | 07:00 |
dholbach | hi geser | 07:00 |
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mitya57 | dholbach: hi, do you have five minutes for me? | 09:50 |
dholbach | mitya57, I'm currently in the middle of fixing a problem I created :) | 09:51 |
dholbach | maybe you just explain how I could help and maybe we can figure it out together? | 09:51 |
mitya57 | ah, I see it on #ubuntu-devel | 09:51 |
mitya57 | I wanted you to say something good (or bad) about me at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DmitryShachnev/PPUApplication ... | 09:52 |
dholbach | ah ok | 09:52 |
mitya57 | thanks | 09:52 |
dholbach | do you think you could drop me an email about it, so I don't forget? | 09:52 |
dholbach | I'm happy to do it! | 09:52 |
mitya57 | ok, will send now :) | 09:53 |
dholbach | awesome, thanks a lot | 09:53 |
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krosswindz | hi | 13:02 |
krosswindz | i was wondering if anybody could help me with a question regarding packaging and ppa | 13:03 |
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geser | just ask | 13:12 |
krosswindz | geser: I am trying to build xbmc 11.0 in my ppa to support nfs using libnfs | 13:13 |
krosswindz | The problem being that the version of libnfs in ubuntu repos is new and isnt compatible with xbmc v11.0 | 13:14 |
krosswindz | I built an older version of libnfs which is comptabile with xbmc in my ppa | 13:14 |
krosswindz | I setup the build-depends in the xbmc debian/control file as libnfs-dev (= 1.0.0~git20110902.0804e67) | 13:15 |
geser | apt automatically selects the newest version and installs it | 13:15 |
krosswindz | is there a way to downgrade or tell apt not to install the newer version | 13:15 |
krosswindz | or downgrade to an older version | 13:16 |
TheLordOfTime | geser, i have a question, if i enable proposed in a VM to test, apparently it won't "upgrade" a given package's dependencies according to what's needed, unless i specify the version for each. Any suggestion to get around that and force autoinstall of the deps? | 13:16 |
geser | krosswindz: no, you would need to rename that older version to something like libnfs-1.0-dev (and the same with library package itself) so it doesn't collide with the newer version of libnfs | 13:18 |
krosswindz | geser: ok thanks for the help | 13:18 |
krosswindz | I was hoping one wouldnt have to do it, guess I will have to name it differently | 13:19 |
geser | TheLordOfTime: did you try "apt-get install foobar -t ...-proposed"? | 13:19 |
marga | Heys. Long time ago, when Ubuntu was still new and shiny, I remember someone saying that all Debian Developers had automatic (or similar) upload rights to universe. Is that still the case? Do I have to go through any process to get universe upload rights? (I'm a DD) | 13:20 |
TheLordOfTime | geser, no, i'll try that | 13:20 |
geser | marga: I don't remember that it was ever the case. But as a DD we trust you to have the needed packaging skills :) and you just need to show knowledge on the Ubuntu-specific processes (mostly about freezes) | 13:22 |
marga | geser, ok. So, is there a process that I need to go through? | 13:22 |
geser | marga: I hope the best starting point describing it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers | 13:25 |
marga | ok... that looks like a lot of steps :). | 13:26 |
geser | in short: show interest in Ubuntu, participate through sponsors, apply for MOTU (or PPU for your maintained packages) at the DMB | 13:26 |
marga | Yes, well, I just wanted to update a package that already has a patch in the bug queue... participating through sponsoring kind of loses the purpose. | 13:29 |
TheLordOfTime | geser, is there a method to get upload permissions to -proposed for a specific package, or is it the same as Ubuntu Dev procedures? | 13:30 |
TheLordOfTime | out of curiosity | 13:31 |
TheLordOfTime | btw, that apt-get command works :) | 13:31 |
geser | TheLordOfTime: if you have upload permissions for that package, you can also upload to -proposed this package | 13:31 |
TheLordOfTime | assuming i don't have upload perms for that package, what's the process? | 13:31 |
TheLordOfTime | (yet) | 13:31 |
geser | TheLordOfTime: for uploading? go through a sponsor. for getting upload rights? show that you have sufficient skills to manage that package (easily by getting uploads sponsored) and apply for PPU rights | 13:33 |
geser | marga: I don't know if the DMB has any shortened process for DDs but I guess they would like to see that you really want to care about your packages in Ubuntu too (and the sponsoring is usually pretty quick and easy) | 13:35 |
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mitya57 | A (stupid?) packaging question: | 14:39 |
mitya57 | I have two packages (retext and retext-wpgen), and I want to merge them, so that | 14:39 |
mitya57 | retext-wpgen is removed on upgrade | 14:39 |
dholbach | I'll start a hangout-on-air about Ubuntu development in 20 minutes - anyone interested in co-hosting? | 14:40 |
mitya57 | Is a usual Breaks/Replaces fine for that? | 14:40 |
coolbhavi | dholbach, m there! | 14:41 |
mitya57 | (or there should be something like Provides/Breaks/Replaces)? | 14:41 |
dholbach | coolbhavi, cool - I'll invite you when I start it | 14:41 |
coolbhavi | sure dholbach | 14:41 |
geser | mitya57: Breaks/Replaces should be enough (check the Debian policy manual if you want to be sure) | 14:43 |
mitya57 | geser: policy section 7.6.2 suggests using Provides/Breaks/Replaces, but for a slightly different case | 14:45 |
dholbach | coolbhavi, you might want to join #ubuntuonair for the questions/discussions | 14:48 |
coolbhavi | done dholbach | 14:48 |
dholbach | perfect | 14:48 |
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obounaim | I want to become a maintainer of a python package, does anybody interested in helping me? | 17:37 |
paultag | anyonw know where jodh hangs out? | 18:30 |
stgraber | paultag: #ubuntu-devel mostly | 18:31 |
paultag | thanks, stgraber | 18:31 |
TheLordOfTime | i assume the process for PPU rights is the same regardless of main or universe? | 18:32 |
TheLordOfTime | for applying for PPU* | 18:32 |
Laney | yes | 19:16 |
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jtaylor | anyone familiar with typo3? | 20:52 |
jtaylor | I'm planing on syncing 4.15.19 to quantal several sec issues but also 3 bugfix releases | 20:53 |
jtaylor | asssuming the upstream changelogs are correct it should not need release team ack, but its still quite large and quite late | 20:55 |
jtaylor | opinion? | 20:55 |
jtaylor | http://wiki.typo3.org/TYPO3_4.5.1[789] | 20:55 |
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jtaylor | I'll sync it, the fixes seem worth it | 21:35 |
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