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| tjaalton | duflu: hey, about bug 927168, should I send it upstream to the mesa guys, or is it a compiz bug? | 07:25 |
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| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 927168 in Compiz "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in memmove() from drisw_update_tex_buffer() from dri_set_tex_buffer2() from drisw_bind_tex_image() from __glXBindTexImageEXT() from TfpTexture::enable() from enableFragmentOperationsAndDrawGeometry()" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927168 | 07:25 |
| duflu | tjaalton: Still not 100% but seems very likely a compiz bug. I just approved a potential compiz fix | 07:27 |
| tjaalton | duflu: oh cool, I could give it a try as well, easy to reproduce :) | 07:28 |
| jibel | om26er_, about bug 1052345, I don't have unity-window-decorator running but gtk-window-decorator. Is it the process I should kill ? | 08:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1052345 in unity (Ubuntu) "Windows operations in Unity become sluggish after a few days of usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052345 | 08:04 |
| om26er_ | jibel, yeah, sorry that was meant to be gtk-window-decorator | 08:14 |
| om26er_ | there is a leak in gtk-window-decorator so i thought your issue maybe the same | 08:15 |
| jibel | om26er_, np, I commented on the report. The desktop is more responsive again. | 08:15 |
| dholbach | hiya | 08:58 |
| dholbach | do we have some docs for how to "integrate a program into the HUD"? | 08:58 |
| dholbach | http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2012/09/ubuntu-dev-hangouts/#comment-653338925 | 08:58 |
| didrocks | popey: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/shotwell/+bug/1052375 | 09:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1052375 in unity-scope-gdocs (Ubuntu) "The g-c-c interface doesn't support i18n" [Undecided,New] | 09:05 |
| * popey clicks | 09:05 | |
| didrocks | popey: it's just a FYI, I just spent some time to sort that out between the different team | 09:08 |
| popey | thanks | 09:08 |
| didrocks | popey: do you have a status on compiz release/migration? | 09:25 |
| didrocks | popey: also, I think it will be good to backport latest commits from compiz as distro cherry-picks | 09:25 |
| popey | didrocks, ted kindly had a deep look at the migration issue, and identified some interesting stuff but not a conclusion, he's offered to look further | 09:26 |
| popey | didrocks, I agree.. | 09:27 |
| popey | ^ Mirv :) | 09:27 |
| didrocks | popey: thanks! | 09:27 |
| Mirv | I've already cherry-picked the two additional compiz bug fixes that are targeted to beta-2. PPA (and packaging url) at https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/+archive/compiz-quantal-testing2 | 09:38 |
| Mirv | or the other compiz bug fix is to a bug fix in unity that is targeted to beta-2, so essentially needed | 09:39 |
| didrocks | Mirv: excellent! | 09:39 |
| didrocks | Mirv: so rev 377 and rev 3376 are in? | 09:40 |
| didrocks | Mirv: I think rev 3374 is interesting as well | 09:40 |
| didrocks | so maybe better to merge tip on top of your content? | 09:40 |
| popey | thanks Mirv | 09:42 |
| Mirv | 3372 and 3376. tip would be nice, but as usual creates a risk of detecting late regressions when testing everything at once, and then we might miss beta 2 if we end into a loop of finding new bugs, trying to get them fixed etc, while 0.9.8.2 + cherry-picks have already been successfully tested | 09:42 |
| Mirv | there'll always be time for 0.9.8.4 | 09:44 |
| Mirv | (3368 and 3373 are also in the packaging branch) | 09:44 |
| didrocks | Mirv: rev 3376 is fixing a critical bug for beta2 | 09:50 |
| didrocks | Mirv: so we need at least this one | 09:50 |
| Mirv | yep, it's in, although apparently needs more than just that commit | 09:51 |
| didrocks | Mirv: ok, I'll let you decipher this :) | 09:51 |
| duflu | Mirv: You mean 3374, not 3373? | 10:07 |
| duflu | 3374 is getting lots of duplicate crash reports | 10:07 |
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| Mirv | no, 3373 since it prevents unity from building. | 10:49 |
| Mirv | 3374 can be picked up as well | 10:50 |
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| Mirv | I'm going the "tip" route... | 14:14 |
| didrocks | Mirv: sounds safe to me | 14:15 |
| didrocks | popey: Mirv: any news from ted on the migration? | 14:56 |
| didrocks | popey: Mirv: I think we won't have time to deal with those with tomorrow's release, so better to have that tackled before | 14:56 |
| popey | didrocks, sorry, was afk. just catching up | 15:03 |
| popey | didrocks, no movement yet | 15:08 |
| * popey hugs tedg | 15:08 | |
| * didrocks starts to be concerned | 15:08 | |
| didrocks | really concerned | 15:08 |
| popey | not sure who else we can recruit/press-gang into helping tbh | 15:13 |
| didrocks | not sure, everyone is really busy… | 15:13 |
| didrocks | tedg: no time for that? | 15:13 |
| didrocks | popey: you have 4 people in your team, nobody can help Mirv? seems blocking on a transitional issue for 2 weeks shouldn't happen | 15:14 |
| popey | I am reaching out to tedg because he seems to have the knowledge to help. others do not. | 15:15 |
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| tedg | didrocks, Yeah, unfortunately I end up in meetings :-) | 15:54 |
| didrocks | tedg: tell that your mic is broken dude! :-) | 15:55 |
| tedg | didrocks, Heh | 15:55 |
| didrocks | tedg: did you find anything yesterday? | 15:55 |
| tedg | didrocks, BTW, why is this a blocker? Can we just say "eh, new configuration, you get defaults"? | 15:55 |
| didrocks | tedg: I didn't test is on my machine, so can't really tell | 15:55 |
| tedg | didrocks, There's some oddities, but I haven't found a final "this is what it is" | 15:55 |
| didrocks | tedg: well, gold rule is to keep user config | 15:55 |
| didrocks | tedg: like, if they tweak switching ws | 15:56 |
| didrocks | and it's reset to the default | 15:56 |
| tedg | didrocks, It seems the writer is going later than we'd like. | 15:56 |
| didrocks | this shows a bad quality product | 15:56 |
| tedg | didrocks, Sure, and we wouldn't touch their old config :-) | 15:56 |
| didrocks | well, we do with the gconf -> gsettings transition :) | 15:56 |
| tedg | didrocks, It seems like a "nice to have" and a "should do" but not a blocker. | 15:56 |
| didrocks | tedg: so, at worst, the user has the default config? | 15:57 |
| tedg | didrocks, Yes | 15:57 |
| didrocks | tedg: no binary corruption of the gsettings blob? | 15:57 |
| didrocks | like if there is a writing and a revert | 15:57 |
| didrocks | (this is what happens, right?) | 15:57 |
| tedg | It seems like there is a write and a revert, but the revert goes back to the default value. | 15:57 |
| tedg | I haven't seen any corruption, but I'd double check with Mirv to be sure he hasn't. | 15:58 |
| Mirv | no, I haven't seen any corruptions at any point | 15:58 |
| didrocks | well, ok, I think at this point we can keep as it is then | 15:59 |
| didrocks | let's keep the migration script | 15:59 |
| didrocks | tedg: did you talk to desrt? | 15:59 |
| didrocks | tedg: maybe he would have some inputs | 15:59 |
| didrocks | as it's clearly a dconf issue :) | 15:59 |
| tedg | didrocks, I asked him a couple of questions, but haven't pulled him in completely :-) | 15:59 |
| tedg | It is a bit odd that the gsettings migration tool doesn't force a sync, but I added that and it didn't help. | 16:00 |
| tedg | Well, it didn't solve it. | 16:00 |
| didrocks | tedg: you can tell him that you have so many "desrt" files and path on your system that he has to do the support now :p | 16:00 |
| tedg | I blame him for every bug in GTK+ | 16:00 |
| didrocks | oh gsettings-data-convert doesn't force a sync? | 16:00 |
| didrocks | tedg: you sure probably do :) | 16:00 |
| tedg | didrocks, Nope. I've got a patch, but it didn't solve this problem. | 16:01 |
| tedg | Not sure if we should add it just because it makes sense though. | 16:01 |
| didrocks | tedg: probably, well, no hurry though | 16:01 |
| didrocks | tedg: if you can get more info at some not that crazy time point from desrt, I would be interesting | 16:01 |
| didrocks | tedg: thanks for checking | 16:01 |
| didrocks | Mirv: popey: so I think we can go on, with the migration, as we are | 16:02 |
| didrocks | Mirv: popey: let's forget about the corner case, we will be blame, but seeing the unity release coming… | 16:02 |
| Mirv | ok. the new compiz snapshot packaging branch is at lp:~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu/quantal/compiz/ubuntu.0982bzr3377 | 16:12 |
| Mirv | it's a shame it can't be released without a unity rebuild which cannot be done without updating unity and libunity... | 16:12 |
| didrocks | Mirv: libunity as well? | 16:12 |
| didrocks | Mirv: unity is because of at-spi2, right? | 16:12 |
| didrocks | but libunity? | 16:12 |
| Mirv | didrocks: the unity version that brings at-spi2 (if not cherry-picking) happens to also require newer libunity | 16:13 |
| didrocks | Mirv: can we cherry-pick the unity at-spi2 commit only? | 16:13 |
| Mirv | didrocks: we could, although then that combo should be also tested | 16:14 |
| Mirv | and the whole stack will need testing tomorrow as well | 16:14 |
| Mirv | I can prepare such a PPA anyway which has compiz + unity 6.4+at-spi2 | 16:14 |
| didrocks | Mirv: no need I guess, if we are confident that the whole stack would be ready by tomorrow | 16:15 |
| didrocks | Mirv: how many additional commit is compiz trunk? | 16:15 |
| didrocks | Mirv: compared to latest tests | 16:16 |
| Mirv | didrocks: well I'll prepare. I'm not 100% confident of all of this, but I tend to be on the cautious side. 14 commits since latest was tested. | 16:17 |
| didrocks | Mirv: yeah, 14 is a lot | 16:18 |
| Mirv | at least I'll check if unity 6.4 + a11n cherry-pick + latest compiz would be one functional combination | 16:19 |
| didrocks | Mirv: so, let's get one stack tested | 16:19 |
| didrocks | ok :) | 16:19 |
| didrocks | thanks Mirv | 16:19 |
| Mirv | no prob | 16:19 |
| conscioususer | mpt: have some minutes to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/dbusmenu/+bug/541472? | 16:27 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 541472 in libindicator "Menu icons should not be 16x16 px" [Low,Confirmed] | 16:27 |
| mpt | conscioususer, hey! I'm in a meeting, but in about 30 min | 16:28 |
| conscioususer | mpt: ok, I'll stay around | 16:28 |
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| Mirv | ok unity 6.4 + a11n cherry-pick alone was not successful unfortunately https://launchpadlibrarian.net/116530817/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.unity_6.4.0-0ubuntu7~test1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:06 |
| mpt | conscioususer, yo | 17:08 |
| conscioususer | mpt: hi | 17:08 |
| conscioususer | mpt: hope the meeting went well :) | 17:09 |
| mpt | no comment | 17:09 |
| mpt | but seriously, it was good | 17:09 |
| conscioususer | ah, you got me worried for a moment there | 17:09 |
| conscioususer | so, icons! | 17:10 |
| conscioususer | if I understood correctly, you guys want to invest in auto-resizing according to font size? | 17:10 |
| conscioususer | mpt: how would the approach to scaling be, considering there is a set of discrete sizes? | 17:13 |
| mpt | conscioususer, I don't know, but I imagine it would be choosing the nearest discrete size up to a certain level, and thence scaling the scalable/largest | 17:14 |
| mpt | So graphed, like a staircase followed by a ramp | 17:14 |
| conscioususer | mpt: the nearest *larger* than the font, I suppose | 17:14 |
| mpt | I don't know | 17:15 |
| conscioususer | mpt: hmm, or maybe the smaller one, so it's aesthetically better to keep all items with the same height | 17:15 |
| mpt | maybe | 17:15 |
| conscioususer | mpt: anyway, IIRC one problem with your proposal on the report is that changing the constant (supposing that is even possible) will not auto-update the icons | 17:16 |
| conscioususer | mpt: I think the size is read when the pixbuf is read, and never again | 17:16 |
| mpt | conscioususer, could you comment about that in the bug report? I don't really know what a pixbuf is. :-) | 17:18 |
| conscioususer | mpt: will do | 17:18 |
| mpt | thanks! | 17:18 |
| conscioususer | mpt: the GNOME HIG (leaving aside the fact that it needs a new version) simply says "menu icons should be 16x16" and leaves it at that http://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/3.5/icons-types.html.en | 17:19 |
| conscioususer | mpt: so I'm not sure what is the position of GNOME/GTK devs on this | 17:19 |
| conscioususer | mpt: but leaves me pessimistic as to how easy it will be to reach the goal | 17:19 |
| mpt | conscioususer, desrt is going to report it upstream for starters | 17:19 |
| conscioususer | mpt: current version of polly resizes icons, but I use exact sizes instead of restricting itself to the discrete ones... that ended up in blurring disaster, won't keep that for the gtk3 port | 17:20 |
| mpt | What do you mean by "instead"? The discrete sizes are exact sizes, no? | 17:21 |
| conscioususer | mpt: I meant I don't necessarily choose one of the discrete ones... so it's possible to have 20x20, 21x21, 23x23, 25x25, etc. | 17:25 |
| conscioususer | mpt: wrote on the report | 17:26 |
| mpt | thanks | 17:26 |
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| njin | Hallo, this is my live session of quantal today build amd64, running on amd2800+, 1,6 GHz, 2Gram, Geforce 6100 onboard, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC-9OZmI4XI&feature=youtu.be | 19:08 |
| njin | is this compiz, unity, gtk or whatelse ? | 19:10 |
| njin | this machine before was working well on 2D, not fast but working. | 19:15 |
| njin | before I mean 12.04 | 19:17 |
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