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dakerwhoever posted the link on @ubuntu account, the link is 40400:14
JoseeAntonioRjcastro: hey, what's happening with ubuntu on air? are we making it?06:58
dholbachgood morning07:04
dholbachdaker, t'as vu les tweets #muslimrage? http://gawker.com/5943828 est très drôle :)07:08
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: hey, I'm setting the channel in ubuntuonair.com to #ubuntu-on-air, which is logged07:09
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, ok07:09
dholbachI'll change it on the ubuntuonair.com page as well07:09
JoseeAntonioRthat's what I'm doing :P07:10
JoseeAntonioRwe should set a redirect07:10
dholbachok, fixed it on the page07:11
JoseeAntonioRbkerensa: could you please set mode +if #ubuntu-on-air to #ubuntuonair? the first one is logged07:11
JoseeAntonioRgreat, then07:11
JoseeAntonioRhow've you been, btw?07:11
dholbachgood good - how about you?07:13
JoseeAntonioRgreat, trying to get along with school07:14
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, I'm not sure I have the privileges to do that in the channel07:14
JoseeAntonioRyeah, that's why I asked bkerensa07:14
dholbachah sorry07:15
JoseeAntonioRnp07:15
JoseeAntonioRanyways, it's done now07:15
dholbachthanks a bunch07:18
JoseeAntonioRno prob07:19
JoseeAntonioRone last thing, I would like having someone from the dev team on the openweek, who can explain a bit how the dev teams work, who do you think it can be?07:19
dholbachI'm happy to do an introduction to Ubuntu development07:22
dholbachmaybe even 2h07:22
dholbachand I'll try to find a co-host to make it a bit more fun07:22
dholbachan earlier session would be great07:22
JoseeAntonioRgreat, but make sure it doesn't crash with your schedule07:23
JoseeAntonioRwhat do you mean?07:23
dholbachthe schedule on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek looks a bit broken07:23
dholbach10 UTC07:23
dholbachnext one: 13 UTC07:23
JoseeAntonioRoh, yep07:23
JoseeAntonioRbecause Mark's giving one at 1007:23
JoseeAntonioRsessions normally start at 1307:23
dholbachaha07:25
JoseeAntonioRso, you would prefer a session which starts earlier than 13?07:26
dholbachno, 13 is just fine07:26
JoseeAntonioRok, on or off air?07:27
dholbachI don't know yet07:29
dholbachbut I'll let you know07:29
JoseeAntonioRok then, thanks! :)07:30
* dholbach hugs JoseeAntonioR07:32
* JoseeAntonioR hugs dholbach back07:33
JoseeAntonioRok, I'm out, school awaits for me!07:37
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, see you! :)07:41
czajkowskialoha08:12
philballewHello everybody!08:19
czajkowskiphilballew: howdy doody08:19
czajkowskiyou're up late08:19
philballewczajkowski, yeah, studying for a Spanish test tomorrow. I dont sleep well anyway.08:20
philballewWork going well this morning for you?08:20
czajkowskiso far08:21
czajkowskiI've seen some of the RTs in so I'm going to be busy08:21
czajkowskibut I like to be busy so it's al good08:21
philballewI find at my job when theres nothing to do, thats when it feels like im working more then normal.08:21
philballewSome weird perception of time thing.08:23
czajkowskiheh08:23
dholbachhey jono08:36
jonohey dholbach08:36
dholbachjono, dpm just texted me and said they have a power outage08:36
jonothanks for letting me know08:36
jonodholbach, want to hop on a call?08:36
dholbachso he'll wait a bit to see if it comes back and then find a place to work from if it doesn't08:36
dholbachsure08:36
jonodholbach, a likely story08:36
jonodpm is next a to a pool with a margherita08:37
dholbachyeah, or on a Spanish strike day - must be that time of the month again08:37
jonohah08:37
jonodholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d067025c45ada5a8ad072571842af9c025f1b3f8?ssc=eyJCIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsW11dLCJPIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGxdfQ%3D%3D&authuser=0&hl=en-US08:39
dholbachdpm, Alter09:24
dholbachdpm, wieder da?09:24
dholbachdpm_, power outage fixed or did you have to go somewhere else to work?09:26
=== dpm_ is now known as dpm
dpmdholbach, I'm back home. I figured out it'd take me less time to wait than to drive to the city to find an internet cafe09:28
dpmit seems power is still a bit flaky09:28
dpmdisconnecting every now and then09:28
dholbachjono, dpm just helped fix the packaging guide09:45
jonodholbach, cool!09:55
jonodholbach, looks great :-)09:55
dakerdholbach: nice :D10:19
dholbachdaker, it's hard to pick a favourite :)10:21
czajkowskidaker: any idea why the thai loco are appearing twice on the LTP with 2 different re approval dates10:52
dakerczajkowski: where ?10:52
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/10:53
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-th10:53
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/thai-locoteam10:53
dakerczajkowski: i think this one "thai-locoteam" is old10:55
czajkowskiahh any idea how yo worked that out ?10:56
czajkowskijust a bit confued10:56
czajkowski*confused10:56
dakergive me sometimes so i can look at the code10:56
czajkowskiok thanks11:00
dakerif i am not wrong there is a merge functionality in LTP, so they can merge the old team with the new one, right mhall119 cjohnston ?11:02
cjohnstonare both members of locoteams11:47
mhall119daker: the funtionality is there, yes13:15
mhall119IIRC, they have to be members of, or admins of, both teams13:15
dakernigelb: http://xkcd-map.rent-a-geek.de/14:10
nigelbdaker: already saw that large map :)14:10
daker:)14:10
* czajkowski is looking forward to meeting randall in 2 weeks time 14:18
czajkowskiHe's coming to Ireland :D14:18
popeyjcastro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12248111#post1224811115:50
popeyDan Gilmore asking for help15:50
jonodpm, hey16:19
dpmjono, hey. Can we jump on the phone?16:19
jonodpm, sure16:19
dpmjust a sec, I'll set up the hangout16:20
jonodpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/baf7c0fe5b899d410de8f1bd07f8e9993551eb93?ssc=eyJCIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsW11dLCJPIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGxdfQ%3D%3D&authuser=0&hl=en-US16:20
jonodpm, ^16:22
dholbachalright, I'll call it a day - see you tomorrow16:24
czajkowskidholbach: toodles16:25
jonodpm, I am calling16:25
dholbachbye16:25
jonono answer16:25
dpmjono, weird, I cannot see anyone calling. Let me restart skype16:25
jonodpm, you call me16:25
dpmjono, ok, calling16:26
jonocool16:26
jonoI don't see anything16:26
dakerme17:15
dakerme too mhall11917:15
dakerit works now17:16
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bkerensajono: is it possible to get a name or e-mail of someone working on Ubuntu for Android?18:49
bkerensaI have someone from Mozilla OS team who would love to chat with them18:49
mhall119bkerensa: Ubuntu for Mozilla OS?19:22
marcoceppiMozilla OS for Ubuntu for Android?19:22
bkerensamhall119: no... Someone from the Mozilla OS Team wants to chat with the Ubuntu on Android team19:23
mhall119I was asking if that's what they wanted to chat about19:26
AlanBellis mozilla OS different to Firefox OS (boot to gecko)19:28
mhall119popey: can you help bkerensa?19:29
bkerensaAlanBell: No same thing... Mozilla OS/B2G/Firefox OS all code names :)19:30
bkerensawe dont have a official name yet I dont think19:30
AlanBellok, are you running it yet?19:32
bkerensaAlanBell: me? No I am getting a Mozilla Phone though and have played with it19:53
bkerensaits very nice19:53
AlanBellI had a really quick play with an early version at the mozspace in London19:55
AlanBellquite tempted to put it on my phone19:55
bkerensaahh :)19:56
bkerensaso we had 7 different devices at the Music Hack Day in Portland here a few weeks back19:56
bkerensaand its way faster than any oem install of android I have seen19:56
AlanBellyeah, it did seem quick19:57
bkerensaI have a brand new Samsung Galaxy Verb and its slower that a Moz Phone19:57
mhall119bkerensa: what is it under the hood?19:57
bkerensaIts Android19:57
bkerensabut stripped down19:57
bkerensawith html5 apps19:57
AlanBellit is an android kernel and a web server19:57
bkerensayes19:57
bkerensa:D19:57
bkerensaserving html519:57
bkerensa:D19:57
AlanBelland gecko looking at the local webserver19:57
bkerensaYep19:57
bkerensa:D19:57
mhall119webserver?19:57
bkerensaunsure let me check19:58
AlanBellactually offline HTML5 applications kind of blur the lines between what is and is not a server19:59
bkerensamhall119: busybox's20:00
bkerensaso busybox httpd20:00
bkerensamhall119: So if I am at UDS next cycle I will bring down a Mozilla phone20:01
bkerensa:)20:01
mhall119bkerensa: cool, I'd like to see it20:01
popeymhall119, bkerensa yo!20:01
bkerensapopey: yo20:01
popeymozilla want to talk to us?20:03
popeymy irony meter exploded20:03
czajkowski*grin*20:03
czajkowskipopey: I think your sarcasim meter may have moved also!:)20:03
bkerensapopey: a Mozilla employee yep he is also a Ubuntu User :)20:03
popeycan you get me his details and what specifically he's interested in talking about and I'll find the right person20:04
bkerensakk20:04
popeyawesome20:05
* AlanBell wonders if Firefox will get unity webapps in 12.1020:05
mhall119AlanBell: it already does20:06
mhall119I thought20:06
bkerensapopey: Benjamin Kero bkero@mozilla.com20:06
mhall119another Ben K. huh?20:06
AlanBellorly?20:06
bkerensa;0 be lucky he doesn't idle here... his nick is bkero20:06
bkerensa;p20:06
* AlanBell is fairly sure firefox does not have the webapps api right now, just chromium20:07
bkerensaso sad considering chromium is not actively maintained in Ubuntu20:09
bkerensa=/20:09
mhall119AlanBell: well it used to...20:11
AlanBellI am not sure why it isn't there in 12.10, however I suspect the reason may relate to popey's irony meter20:11
bkerensaDoes anyone know how and where Online Accounts credentials are stored?20:13
bkerensapopey: anytime you need someone in Mozilla let me know I can grab you the right person from phonebook20:13
popeyit does AlanBell20:14
popeythe work was done on ff a while back20:15
AlanBellmust be getting a bit tight to wriggle it in for 12.10 now20:18
AlanBellbut bigger things have been sabdlf'd in during the last week before :)20:18
dakerwhat shoud l call myself Ubuntu Community Member? Ubuntu Member ? or just Ubuntu Contributor ?20:24
dakershould call*20:24
czajkowskidaker: in what manner20:26
czajkowskion emails20:26
czajkowskior on applications20:26
dakerpresentation(slides)20:26
czajkowski*loaths* evangelist20:26
czajkowskidaker: well you contrbite, you're an ubuntu member20:26
czajkowskiso why not both :)20:26
dakerok20:27
czajkowskidaker: I often find maybe bullet points to decribe yourself and talk around them what they mean for you20:27
czajkowskias you develper contribute to Ubuntu where as someoe else may not dev but does contribute in other ways20:27
cjohnstonUbuntu Community Contributor?20:28
czajkowskialso sometimes people dont fully understand what an Ubuntu member is and the process20:28
czajkowskicjohnston: advocate...20:28
bkerensaor just a name?20:28
bkerensa:D20:28
popeyname and email / twitter / irc handle is all I do20:33
popeymaybe "Elvis Impersonator"20:33
bkerensaname / url / ubuntu quote for @ubuntu.com20:34
pleia2I was at a job interview and one of the guys interviewing goes "I knew your name was familiar, I'm on some Ubuntu mailing list and I see your name in "From:" all the time!"20:34
pleia2so now I just go by "awesome"20:34
bkerensapleia2: LOL20:35
pleia2:)20:35
pleia2it was a good interview20:35
mhall119pleia2: did you get that job/20:45
mhall119?20:45
pleia2mhall119: waiting on an offer :)20:45
mhall119they're probably thinking "Oh no, she'll take over *everything*"20:45
pleia2"perfect!"20:45
mhall119if that's their reaction, then it's a place worth working at :)20:46
pleia2hehe20:46
czajkowski:-)20:46
dakersometimes people thinks that Ubuntu member means Ubuntu Dev/MOTU and they tells me if i have upload access to the archive :D20:47
bkerensalol20:53
bkerensaI think many people think they are automatically Ubuntu Members by being involved in the community20:53
bkerensa90% of people requesting to join the official member linked in are not Ubuntu Members or are Canonical employees who also are not members20:53
czajkowskihave folks seen http://blog.launchpad.net/general/privacy-for-blueprints-enabled-for-beta-testers21:13
dakerdoes anyone have stats about ubuntu ?21:43
bkerensadaker: sabdfl seems to :)21:45
bkerensahttp://www.datamation.com/open-source/desktop-linux-has-ubuntus-unity-surpassed-the-mac-1.html21:45
popeydaker, what kind of stats?21:46
dakeranything, users on the forum, how many developers working on it, how many packages do we have in the archive ?21:47
dakerpopey: ^21:50
pleia2ubuntuforums.org has stats on the bottom of the front page: Threads: 1,876,553, Beans: 11,612,613, Members: 1,732,566, Active Members: 31,02121:50
pleia2and you can look at the launchpad teams to find membership numbers of various teams21:51
pleia2https://launchpad.net/~motu and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev are good places to look21:51
dakeroh yeah thanks pleia2 :)21:52
pleia2trying to figure out the best place to grab number of packages, hm21:53
pleia2http://askubuntu.com/questions/120630/how-many-packages-are-in-the-main-repository has a good answer21:54
dakerpleia2: http://i.imgur.com/vvxyo.png ? at the bottom of USC21:56
pleia2daker: yeah, it's somewhere around 40k if you count all the shipped repos so that seems accurate21:57
IdleOnemuon package manager shows 40788 packages21:57
pleia2(that number will include PPAs and other repos you enabled)21:58
AlanBellyeah, but most are not what people would call apps21:58
dakeryeah i have ppas21:58
IdleOneno ppa's here21:58
dakerthanks IdleOne21:58
pleia2yeah, that's just "packages" - not apps (so includes libraries, docs, translations and all kinds of things)21:58
IdleOnealso includes virtual packages, metapackages.21:59
popeydaker, ~592 canonical employees22:27
popeydaker, also note that pay-for games are in PPAs (private ones)22:28
popeyso might not be obvious how many there are22:28
cjohnstonballoons: nice post today22:38
dakerpopey: thank you :)22:38
cjohnstonsounds like, as always, hggdh doin a great job too :-)22:39
pleia2cjohnston: classbot has been gone for a couple weeks, can you PM me the address again?22:39
* hggdh blushes22:39
cjohnstonI know.. lol :-P22:42
cjohnstongotta tell you good job every once in a while.. hehe22:42
hggdh:-)22:43
balloonscjohnston, thanks :-)22:49
balloonsand yes... hggdh is an allstar22:49
cjohnstonthankfully I have a few days before my next call with him, maybe his head will be back to a normal size by then after that comment22:56
JoseeAntonioRhey guys, has anyone recieved the Official Ubuntu Book from Pearson (via UPS) over here?23:01
pleia2I got one, but I don't remember what carrier sent it23:02
JoseeAntonioRUPS is trying to charge me an amount of around 35 dollars, seems weird23:03
JoseeAntonioRjust for recieving it23:03
pleia2:\23:03
JoseeAntonioRI'll just send an email and see what I can do23:04

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