[00:14] whoever posted the link on @ubuntu account, the link is 404 [06:58] jcastro: hey, what's happening with ubuntu on air? are we making it? [07:04] good morning [07:08] daker, t'as vu les tweets #muslimrage? http://gawker.com/5943828 est très drôle :) [07:09] dholbach: hey, I'm setting the channel in ubuntuonair.com to #ubuntu-on-air, which is logged [07:09] JoseeAntonioR, ok [07:09] I'll change it on the ubuntuonair.com page as well [07:10] that's what I'm doing :P [07:10] we should set a redirect [07:11] ok, fixed it on the page [07:11] bkerensa: could you please set mode +if #ubuntu-on-air to #ubuntuonair? the first one is logged [07:11] great, then [07:11] how've you been, btw? [07:13] good good - how about you? [07:14] great, trying to get along with school [07:14] JoseeAntonioR, I'm not sure I have the privileges to do that in the channel [07:14] yeah, that's why I asked bkerensa [07:15] ah sorry [07:15] np [07:15] anyways, it's done now [07:18] thanks a bunch [07:19] no prob [07:19] one last thing, I would like having someone from the dev team on the openweek, who can explain a bit how the dev teams work, who do you think it can be? [07:22] I'm happy to do an introduction to Ubuntu development [07:22] maybe even 2h [07:22] and I'll try to find a co-host to make it a bit more fun [07:22] an earlier session would be great [07:23] great, but make sure it doesn't crash with your schedule [07:23] what do you mean? [07:23] the schedule on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek looks a bit broken [07:23] 10 UTC [07:23] next one: 13 UTC [07:23] oh, yep [07:23] because Mark's giving one at 10 [07:23] sessions normally start at 13 [07:25] aha [07:26] so, you would prefer a session which starts earlier than 13? [07:26] no, 13 is just fine [07:27] ok, on or off air? [07:29] I don't know yet [07:29] but I'll let you know [07:30] ok then, thanks! :) [07:32] * dholbach hugs JoseeAntonioR [07:33] * JoseeAntonioR hugs dholbach back [07:37] ok, I'm out, school awaits for me! [07:41] JoseeAntonioR, see you! :) [08:12] aloha [08:19] Hello everybody! [08:19] philballew: howdy doody [08:19] you're up late [08:20] czajkowski, yeah, studying for a Spanish test tomorrow. I dont sleep well anyway. [08:20] Work going well this morning for you? [08:21] so far [08:21] I've seen some of the RTs in so I'm going to be busy [08:21] but I like to be busy so it's al good [08:21] I find at my job when theres nothing to do, thats when it feels like im working more then normal. [08:23] Some weird perception of time thing. [08:23] heh [08:36] hey jono [08:36] hey dholbach [08:36] jono, dpm just texted me and said they have a power outage [08:36] thanks for letting me know [08:36] dholbach, want to hop on a call? [08:36] so he'll wait a bit to see if it comes back and then find a place to work from if it doesn't [08:36] sure [08:36] dholbach, a likely story [08:37] dpm is next a to a pool with a margherita [08:37] yeah, or on a Spanish strike day - must be that time of the month again [08:37] hah [08:39] dholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d067025c45ada5a8ad072571842af9c025f1b3f8?ssc=eyJCIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsW11dLCJPIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGxdfQ%3D%3D&authuser=0&hl=en-US [09:24] dpm, Alter [09:24] dpm, wieder da? [09:26] dpm_, power outage fixed or did you have to go somewhere else to work? === dpm_ is now known as dpm [09:28] dholbach, I'm back home. I figured out it'd take me less time to wait than to drive to the city to find an internet cafe [09:28] it seems power is still a bit flaky [09:28] disconnecting every now and then [09:45] jono, dpm just helped fix the packaging guide [09:55] dholbach, cool! [09:55] dholbach, looks great :-) [10:19] dholbach: nice :D [10:21] daker, it's hard to pick a favourite :) [10:52] daker: any idea why the thai loco are appearing twice on the LTP with 2 different re approval dates [10:52] czajkowski: where ? [10:53] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ [10:53] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-th [10:53] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/thai-locoteam [10:55] czajkowski: i think this one "thai-locoteam" is old [10:56] ahh any idea how yo worked that out ? [10:56] just a bit confued [10:56] *confused [10:56] give me sometimes so i can look at the code [11:00] ok thanks [11:02] if i am not wrong there is a merge functionality in LTP, so they can merge the old team with the new one, right mhall119 cjohnston ? [11:47] are both members of locoteams [13:15] daker: the funtionality is there, yes [13:15] IIRC, they have to be members of, or admins of, both teams [14:10] nigelb: http://xkcd-map.rent-a-geek.de/ [14:10] daker: already saw that large map :) [14:10] :) [14:18] * czajkowski is looking forward to meeting randall in 2 weeks time [14:18] He's coming to Ireland :D [15:50] jcastro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12248111#post12248111 [15:50] Dan Gilmore asking for help [16:19] dpm, hey [16:19] jono, hey. Can we jump on the phone? [16:19] dpm, sure [16:20] just a sec, I'll set up the hangout [16:20] dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/baf7c0fe5b899d410de8f1bd07f8e9993551eb93?ssc=eyJCIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsW11dLCJPIjpbbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtdLG51bGxdfQ%3D%3D&authuser=0&hl=en-US [16:22] dpm, ^ [16:24] alright, I'll call it a day - see you tomorrow [16:25] dholbach: toodles [16:25] dpm, I am calling [16:25] bye [16:25] no answer [16:25] jono, weird, I cannot see anyone calling. Let me restart skype [16:25] dpm, you call me [16:26] jono, ok, calling [16:26] cool [16:26] I don't see anything [17:15] me [17:15] me too mhall119 [17:16] it works now === khildin_ is now known as khildin [18:49] jono: is it possible to get a name or e-mail of someone working on Ubuntu for Android? [18:49] I have someone from Mozilla OS team who would love to chat with them [19:22] bkerensa: Ubuntu for Mozilla OS? [19:22] Mozilla OS for Ubuntu for Android? [19:23] mhall119: no... Someone from the Mozilla OS Team wants to chat with the Ubuntu on Android team [19:26] I was asking if that's what they wanted to chat about [19:28] is mozilla OS different to Firefox OS (boot to gecko) [19:29] popey: can you help bkerensa? [19:30] AlanBell: No same thing... Mozilla OS/B2G/Firefox OS all code names :) [19:30] we dont have a official name yet I dont think [19:32] ok, are you running it yet? [19:53] AlanBell: me? No I am getting a Mozilla Phone though and have played with it [19:53] its very nice [19:55] I had a really quick play with an early version at the mozspace in London [19:55] quite tempted to put it on my phone [19:56] ahh :) [19:56] so we had 7 different devices at the Music Hack Day in Portland here a few weeks back [19:56] and its way faster than any oem install of android I have seen [19:57] yeah, it did seem quick [19:57] I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy Verb and its slower that a Moz Phone [19:57] bkerensa: what is it under the hood? [19:57] Its Android [19:57] but stripped down [19:57] with html5 apps [19:57] it is an android kernel and a web server [19:57] yes [19:57] :D [19:57] serving html5 [19:57] :D [19:57] and gecko looking at the local webserver [19:57] Yep [19:57] :D [19:57] webserver? [19:58] unsure let me check [19:59] actually offline HTML5 applications kind of blur the lines between what is and is not a server [20:00] mhall119: busybox's [20:00] so busybox httpd [20:01] mhall119: So if I am at UDS next cycle I will bring down a Mozilla phone [20:01] :) [20:01] bkerensa: cool, I'd like to see it [20:01] mhall119, bkerensa yo! [20:01] popey: yo [20:03] mozilla want to talk to us? [20:03] my irony meter exploded [20:03] *grin* [20:03] popey: I think your sarcasim meter may have moved also!:) [20:03] popey: a Mozilla employee yep he is also a Ubuntu User :) [20:04] can you get me his details and what specifically he's interested in talking about and I'll find the right person [20:04] kk [20:05] awesome [20:05] * AlanBell wonders if Firefox will get unity webapps in 12.10 [20:06] AlanBell: it already does [20:06] I thought [20:06] popey: Benjamin Kero bkero@mozilla.com [20:06] another Ben K. huh? [20:06] orly? [20:06] ;0 be lucky he doesn't idle here... his nick is bkero [20:06] ;p [20:07] * AlanBell is fairly sure firefox does not have the webapps api right now, just chromium [20:09] so sad considering chromium is not actively maintained in Ubuntu [20:09] =/ [20:11] AlanBell: well it used to... [20:11] I am not sure why it isn't there in 12.10, however I suspect the reason may relate to popey's irony meter [20:13] Does anyone know how and where Online Accounts credentials are stored? [20:13] popey: anytime you need someone in Mozilla let me know I can grab you the right person from phonebook [20:14] it does AlanBell [20:15] the work was done on ff a while back [20:18] must be getting a bit tight to wriggle it in for 12.10 now [20:18] but bigger things have been sabdlf'd in during the last week before :) [20:24] what shoud l call myself Ubuntu Community Member? Ubuntu Member ? or just Ubuntu Contributor ? [20:24] should call* [20:26] daker: in what manner [20:26] on emails [20:26] or on applications [20:26] presentation(slides) [20:26] *loaths* evangelist [20:26] daker: well you contrbite, you're an ubuntu member [20:26] so why not both :) [20:27] ok [20:27] daker: I often find maybe bullet points to decribe yourself and talk around them what they mean for you [20:27] as you develper contribute to Ubuntu where as someoe else may not dev but does contribute in other ways [20:28] Ubuntu Community Contributor? [20:28] also sometimes people dont fully understand what an Ubuntu member is and the process [20:28] cjohnston: advocate... [20:28] or just a name? [20:28] :D [20:33] name and email / twitter / irc handle is all I do [20:33] maybe "Elvis Impersonator" [20:34] name / url / ubuntu quote for @ubuntu.com [20:34] I was at a job interview and one of the guys interviewing goes "I knew your name was familiar, I'm on some Ubuntu mailing list and I see your name in "From:" all the time!" [20:34] so now I just go by "awesome" [20:35] pleia2: LOL [20:35] :) [20:35] it was a good interview [20:45] pleia2: did you get that job/ [20:45] ? [20:45] mhall119: waiting on an offer :) [20:45] they're probably thinking "Oh no, she'll take over *everything*" [20:45] "perfect!" [20:46] if that's their reaction, then it's a place worth working at :) [20:46] hehe [20:46] :-) [20:47] sometimes people thinks that Ubuntu member means Ubuntu Dev/MOTU and they tells me if i have upload access to the archive :D [20:53] lol [20:53] I think many people think they are automatically Ubuntu Members by being involved in the community [20:53] 90% of people requesting to join the official member linked in are not Ubuntu Members or are Canonical employees who also are not members [21:13] have folks seen http://blog.launchpad.net/general/privacy-for-blueprints-enabled-for-beta-testers [21:43] does anyone have stats about ubuntu ? [21:45] daker: sabdfl seems to :) [21:45] http://www.datamation.com/open-source/desktop-linux-has-ubuntus-unity-surpassed-the-mac-1.html [21:46] daker, what kind of stats? [21:47] anything, users on the forum, how many developers working on it, how many packages do we have in the archive ? [21:50] popey: ^ [21:50] ubuntuforums.org has stats on the bottom of the front page: Threads: 1,876,553, Beans: 11,612,613, Members: 1,732,566, Active Members: 31,021 [21:51] and you can look at the launchpad teams to find membership numbers of various teams [21:51] https://launchpad.net/~motu and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev are good places to look [21:52] oh yeah thanks pleia2 :) [21:53] trying to figure out the best place to grab number of packages, hm [21:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/120630/how-many-packages-are-in-the-main-repository has a good answer [21:56] pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/vvxyo.png ? at the bottom of USC [21:57] daker: yeah, it's somewhere around 40k if you count all the shipped repos so that seems accurate [21:57] muon package manager shows 40788 packages [21:58] (that number will include PPAs and other repos you enabled) [21:58] yeah, but most are not what people would call apps [21:58] yeah i have ppas [21:58] no ppa's here [21:58] thanks IdleOne [21:58] yeah, that's just "packages" - not apps (so includes libraries, docs, translations and all kinds of things) [21:59] also includes virtual packages, metapackages. [22:27] daker, ~592 canonical employees [22:28] daker, also note that pay-for games are in PPAs (private ones) [22:28] so might not be obvious how many there are [22:38] balloons: nice post today [22:38] popey: thank you :) [22:39] sounds like, as always, hggdh doin a great job too :-) [22:39] cjohnston: classbot has been gone for a couple weeks, can you PM me the address again? [22:39] * hggdh blushes [22:42] I know.. lol :-P [22:42] gotta tell you good job every once in a while.. hehe [22:43] :-) [22:49] cjohnston, thanks :-) [22:49] and yes... hggdh is an allstar [22:56] thankfully I have a few days before my next call with him, maybe his head will be back to a normal size by then after that comment [23:01] hey guys, has anyone recieved the Official Ubuntu Book from Pearson (via UPS) over here? [23:02] I got one, but I don't remember what carrier sent it [23:03] UPS is trying to charge me an amount of around 35 dollars, seems weird [23:03] just for recieving it [23:03] :\ [23:04] I'll just send an email and see what I can do