[05:38] <Nikodem153> hi
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[13:55] <smartboyhw> Meeting in 5 minutes... balloons is chair I think
[14:00]  * balloons waves
[14:00] <balloons> #startmeeting Ubuntu QA Community
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[14:00] <balloons> alright, roll call time
[14:00] <balloons> i'll raise my own hand :-)
[14:00] <smartboyhw> \o
[14:01] <phillw> \o
[14:01] <balloons> \o
[14:01] <smartboyhw> Who is on the namelist?
[14:02] <smartboyhw> Oh sorry:)
[14:02] <xnox> \o
[14:02] <balloons> alright, we shall dive into the agenda
[14:03] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:03] <balloons> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
[14:03] <balloons> ACTION: balloons to follow-up with ubuntu-qa website changes
[14:04] <balloons> I actually have news on this. We can change the theme in launchpad, and the admin will redploy
[14:04] <njin> \ò
[14:04] <smartboyhw> Yeah
[14:04] <balloons> sadly I can't get the update I want for wordpress, but this will still work
[14:04] <balloons> It's on my to-do list, but volunteers are welcome to pitch in here
[14:05] <smartboyhw> wordpress?
[14:05] <balloons> need to be able to use lp and bzr.. the change is basic html
[14:05] <smartboyhw> I don´t understand balloons
[14:05] <balloons> smartboyhw, wordpress is a the engine running the site
[14:05] <smartboyhw> OK I get it
[14:05] <smartboyhw> phillw can do that I think
[14:05] <balloons> ACTION: balloons to fix regex on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[14:06]  * smartboyhw is not using any ubuntu system for now...
[14:06] <balloons> That's done, regex is all fixed up now
[14:06] <phillw> i saw, thanks :)
[14:06] <balloons> I believe that's it for previous actions
[14:06] <smartboyhw> Thx
[14:06] <balloons> anything else?
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> \o
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> (late attendance)
[14:07] <smartboyhw> That´s a lot of people today
[14:07] <balloons> ok, moving on to more exciting things
[14:07] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:07] <balloons> [TOPIC]  Ubuntu Updates
[14:08] <balloons> the big excitement this week is the testcase work going on
[14:08] <smartboyhw> Is it that Beta 2 Freeze and DocumentationStringFreeze is tmr?
[14:08] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[14:09] <balloons> the goal is to have the testcases for flavors and other leftover tests all pushed into the tracker this week
[14:10] <balloons> in support of the efforts, a new version of the tracker with some nice improvements is also landing
[14:10] <balloons> it will have collapsible testcases, date filtering for reports, and will allow us to use variables in our testcases to support multiple flavors better
[14:11] <balloons> beta2 testing will be next week, and as mentioned, the doc and string freeze along with beta2 freeze is happening tomorrow
[14:12] <balloons> I would expect the first candidate images this Friday/Monday for beta2 as usual
[14:12] <balloons> after the beta2 release, the RC (and testing!) comes quickly so get ready
[14:13] <balloons> Also, I sent some things to the list about new stuff landing in quantal
[14:13] <balloons> new dash's, new beta drivers for graphics and some other things.. read the archives if your interested in seeing what's still trickling in :-)
[14:13] <balloons> any questions or further comments on what's going on in ubuntu?
[14:14] <smartboyhw> len-dt: \o
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Sorry
[14:14] <smartboyhw> I want to \o and accidentally pinged one of the Studio guys
[14:14] <smartboyhw> balloons: Have question
[14:14] <balloons> smartboyhw, go ahead
[14:15] <smartboyhw> Migration of legacy testcases to isotracker testcases
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Does that mean only changing words which are ¨Ubuntu¨ or ¨Xubuntu¨ to like ¨Ubuntu Studio¨?
[14:16] <smartboyhw> ..
[14:16] <balloons> smartboyhw, no you don't need to change the testcase for something so simple
[14:16] <smartboyhw> balloons: So what exactly does Migration of legacy testcases to isotracker testcases mean?
[14:16] <balloons> the new version of the tracker is allowing us to use a variable to replace the 'ubuntu' string
[14:17] <balloons> so what you can do is simply create a testsuite for ubuntu studio, and assign the needed testcases to it
[14:17] <balloons> let's take a look quickly as an example
[14:17] <smartboyhw> Ah that is easy, so I do it in the sandbox?
[14:18] <balloons> so ubuntu studio only releases dvd's
[14:18] <balloons> and there are 2 testcases
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Yes only
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Uh huh
[14:18] <balloons> you need to create a testsuite and add those 2 testcases to it
[14:18] <smartboyhw> In sandbox or real ISO tracker?
[14:18] <balloons> then I'll assign the testsuite to ubuntu studio and you'll be set
[14:18] <balloons> you'll need to do it on prod, obviously, once your ready
[14:18]  * smartboyhw now goes doing it
[14:19] <balloons> ok, anything else?
[14:19] <balloons> [TOPIC] Other topics
[14:19] <balloons> Ok, we do have a few items to discuss under other topics
[14:20] <balloons> First up is the update-manager bug -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563
[14:20] <balloons> I've seen the bug firsthand. We'll need to chat with michael voigt or someone else who understands the update-manager in more detail
[14:21] <phillw> thanks, it is an issue if peoplel are not getting things like security updates.
[14:21] <balloons> if anyone is familar with python, I don't think debugging it would be *that* hard.. I have played around with it before, but sadly I don't know any specific debugging techniques
[14:21] <balloons> phillw, ohh.. yes, look, it affects precise
[14:22] <balloons> I didn't realize that
[14:22] <phillw> yeah, after putting in 12.04.1 stuff on.
[14:22] <balloons> in that case, I would push it up through lubuntu channels to your security contacts if possible
[14:23] <phillw> Julien is on a well earned vacation, so we're a bit on the ground a.t.m.
[14:23] <phillw> *bit thin*
[14:23] <balloons> if we can confirm it's that serious and affecting precise, I'll work with your right after this to push it harder
[14:23]  * balloons thought it was a quantal bug
[14:23] <phillw> no such luck :(
[14:23] <balloons> [TOPIC] Power PC fail to build
[14:24] <bikefridaywalter> yay :(
[14:24] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:24] <phillw> o/
[14:24] <balloons> ok, so I've heard some success and some failure, but there certainly are some powerpc bugs affecting some lubuntu users
[14:24] <balloons> phillw, go ahead
[14:25] <phillw> Adam has spent quite some time herding bugs into some sort of reason so that they can be followed. As I only got that email about 6 hours ago, I've replied asking him to give some additional guidance to the L-QA ppc testers.
[14:26] <phillw> you will see his name crawling on the bugs.
[14:26] <phillw> (ojordan)
[14:27] <bikefridaywalter> of course with oversized images that makes for certain difficulties: (
[14:27] <balloons> yes, I too heard from Adam
[14:27] <balloons> on the oversized images issue, yea, it's common during the cycle
[14:27] <balloons> I simply use usb nowadays
[14:27] <balloons> I understand ppc is a bit trickier
[14:28] <phillw> bikefridaywalter: as I replied in the mailing list, the issue is discussed on the PPC-FAQ area. let me get the link for you.
[14:28] <phillw> bikefridaywalter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[14:28] <bikefridaywalter> it is very unreliable with openfirmware. i have tried for years to make it work right with no success
[14:29] <phillw> both how to shrink an iso, and how to get usb to work.
[14:30] <bikefridaywalter> the usb is not 100% with that or any process but ill try shrinking
[14:30] <phillw> bikefridaywalter: it is certainly worth a try, those were the suggestions from Adam.
[14:31] <phillw> I'll be sending an email to L-QA about the areas that Adam raised with me.
[14:31] <phillw> ..
[14:31] <balloons> thank you phillw and bikefridaywalter
[14:32] <balloons> [TOPIC] Testcase Admins Team sandbox and mailing list discussion
[14:32] <balloons> ok, smartboyhw requested we bring up the idea of another mailing list for the admin team
[14:32] <balloons> fyi for others; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins
[14:33] <phillw> o/
[14:33] <balloons> go ahead phillw
[14:35] <phillw> is the test case admin team expected to generate so much mail? I'd think something similar that is used my L-QA, where PPC has PPC in the subject line so those not interested don't need to read it and use our current QA mailing list so any one interested in test cases can see what & where we are upto.
[14:35] <phillw> s/my/by
[14:36] <balloons> phillw, I agree.. I'd really rather avoid specific mailing lists for things
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Agree!
[14:37] <balloons> njin, smartboyhw, elfy thoughts/
[14:37] <smartboyhw> \o
[14:38] <elfy> extra m/l seems a bit like just having a m/l so there's a m/l - I'd concur with phillw's thoughts
[14:38] <njin> balloons, we have a new hard tester, sandra farnedi is back
[14:39] <balloons> ok, sounds like we'll keep things as is.. If you need to get in touch, use the ubuntu-qa mailing list and consider putting a [testcase-admin] header in the subject line
[14:39] <smartboyhw> OK:)
[14:39] <smartboyhw> \o
[14:39] <balloons> ok, that's all we have for scheduled topics.. feel free to raise anything additional now
[14:39] <smartboyhw> \o
[14:40] <balloons> njin, go ahead -- who is this new tester
[14:40] <balloons> one sec smartboyhw
[14:40] <smartboyhw> Sorry
[14:42] <njin> She's sandra, https://launchpad.net/~sandra-farnedi-d
[14:43] <balloons> njin, excellent
[14:43] <balloons> I assume you'll get her up to speed :-)
[14:43] <balloons> go ahead smartboyhw
[14:43] <njin> she was a teacher
[14:45] <njin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~sandra-farnedi-d/+reportedbugs
[14:45] <smartboyhw> OK my turn
[14:46] <smartboyhw> Been a bit worried in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[14:46] <smartboyhw> balloons: When is the deadline for distro specific testcases?
[14:47] <balloons> smartboyhw, no deadline.. just future work on that
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ..
[14:47] <balloons> it's up to the flavors if they want to do it at all
[14:47] <balloons> I don't drive your schedules :-)
[14:48] <balloons> ok, anyone else have anything they wish to ask or bring up?
[14:48] <balloons> a question, comment, etc? :-)
[14:49] <smartboyhw> balloons\o
[14:49] <smartboyhw> One more questino
[14:49] <smartboyhw> *question
[14:49] <balloons> go ahead smartboyhw
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Back in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[14:50] <smartboyhw> As I recall Mythbuntu is an LTS->LTS release.
[14:50] <smartboyhw> So balloons you may just go and delete the item for ISOTracker testcase for Mythbuntu in Beta 2 secion
[14:50] <smartboyhw> *section
[14:51] <smartboyhw> ..
[14:52] <balloons> thanks smartboyhw
[14:52] <smartboyhw> NP:)
[14:52] <balloons> ok, if no one has anything else, we're done for today
[14:52] <balloons> thanks for attending everyone!
[14:52] <balloons> and as always happy testing!
[14:52] <balloons> #endmeeting
[14:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 19 14:52:36 2012 UTC.
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[14:52] <balloons> phillw, let's chat about your security bug in #ubuntu-testing
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Thanks balloons
[15:00] <stokachu> o/
[15:00] <stokachu> \o\
[15:00] <stokachu> /o/
[15:02] <jodh> stokachu: you've been practising... is that YMCA or "TIE-fighter on manoeuvres  :)
[15:03] <stokachu> haha
[15:03] <stokachu> depends on how much i've had to drink
[15:05] <cjwatson> ok, sorry, bit behind, one sec
[15:06] <cjwatson> #startmeeting
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[15:06] <cjwatson> #topic lightning round
[15:06] <cjwatson> $ echo $(shuf -e barry bdmurray cjwatson ev doko ogra jodh stgraber xnox stokachu)
[15:06] <cjwatson> jodh doko stgraber cjwatson ogra barry ev bdmurray xnox stokachu
[15:06] <jodh> * misc:
[15:06] <jodh>   - Out Friday (at LegoLand! Now proud owner of a Lego Stormtrooper
[15:06] <jodh>     keyring ;-)
[15:06] <jodh>   - Patch piloting on Monday.
[15:06] <jodh> * boot/upstart: stateful-reexec: Lots of progress:
[15:07] <jodh>   - merged lp:~cjwatson/upstart/stateful-reexec-ptrace.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Fixed string handling to use JSON null which squashes a number of
[15:07] <jodh>     bugs.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Fixed argument handling to avoid any possibility of argument
[15:07] <jodh>     exhaustion for repeated re-execs.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Wrote a lot of test support code to allow all serialised object
[15:07] <jodh>     types to be "diffed".
[15:07] <jodh>   - Wrote a few basic tests for Session, Process, Event, Log, Job and JobClass.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Fixed initctl test to avoid sending Upstart SIGTERM (to avoid re-exec! ;-)
[15:07] <jodh>   - Sent patch to man-pages project for ptrace(2):
[15:07] <jodh>     http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.man/3163
[15:07] <jodh>   - Currently finishing a trick Log test.
[15:07] <jodh> * Plan:
[15:07] <jodh>   - Continue to write tests.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Rework state-passing code to handle failure scenarios better.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Attempt to add temporary D-Bus connection handling code (until D-Bus
[15:07] <jodh>     itself offers this facility) and/or tweak bridges to auto-reconnect.
[15:07] <jodh>   - Build an updated package and put out further call for testers.
[15:07] <jodh> ܫ
[15:08] <cjwatson> jodh: so I don't think an FFe was ever filed for stateful-reexec - what's the plan regarding stateful-reexec and quantal (is there one?)
[15:08] <cjwatson> and if so what do we need to do in the next ~week to get it landed?
[15:08] <doko> stgraber, go ahead before me
[15:08] <stgraber> doko: ok
[15:08] <stgraber>  - ISO tracker
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Added time based filtering to /history view and some reports
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Added a new flag to mark images that are no longer available for download (bug 969291)
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Wrote python script to populate the new available-for-download flag
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Made testcase collapsible and collapsed by default (bug 1050483)
[15:08] <jodh> I need to discuss with Steve. There is a view that it may not need one as it's a "bug" that Upstart never had such support :)
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Implemented new FAMILY placeholder (bug 1050489)
[15:08] <stgraber>  - Container
[15:08] <stgraber>    - LXC SRU verification in precise-proposed
[15:08] <stgraber>    - Upstream work, reviewing patches, maintaining staging branch
[15:08] <stgraber>  - Release
[15:08] <stgraber>    - A few FFe/UIFe reviews
[15:08] <stgraber>  - Networking
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Merged and uploaded ifupdown 0.7.2 (bugfix release)
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Prepared isc-dhcp SRU, currently going through some testing in my PPA (bug 974284, bug 1049177, bug 727837)
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Installer
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Fixed ubiquity failing to talk to an existing firefox (bug 446679)
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Uploaded a new ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (translations and last minutes changes for xubuntu and edubuntu)
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Other
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Reviewed and uploaded dpkg to lucid-proposed (bug 624877)
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Reviewed Michael Hall's wiki page on known issues with using /opt for extra apps
[15:09] <stgraber>  - TODO
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Test and upload isc-dhcp. Just noticed that my fix for bug 727837 doesn't completely work, working on something better now...
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Finish ISO tracker work for 12.10 and get IS to roll out the changes before beta2 testing begins
[15:09] <stgraber>    - Start looking at foundations-q-autocreate-preseed
[15:09] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:10] <doko> - fix openjdk-7 backport for precise
[15:10] <doko> - ubuntu+1 maintenance, nbs now clean, component mismatches incompletes pending only
[15:10] <doko> - started fixing x86 build failures in universe
[15:10] <doko> - started looking to rebuild packages not yet built in quantal
[15:10] <doko> - investigated and fixed kernel boot issue, caused by gcc-4.7, updated packages
[15:10] <doko> - python updates
[15:10] <doko> (done)
[15:10] <cjwatson> Deployed initial Python port of cdimage.  Still a number of scripts to port.
[15:10] <cjwatson> Packaged GRUB 2.00.  Several follow-up fixes (including bug 1050774 and bug 1051154).  Looks reasonably OK now.
[15:10] <cjwatson> Patch pilot.
[15:10] <cjwatson> Fixed a haphazard collection of software-properties and aptdaemon bugs.
[15:10] <cjwatson> Fixed ubiquity failure to bind-mount /run while running grub-installer, causing an apparent resolver failure (bug 1047550).
[15:10] <cjwatson> Chaired TB meeting.
[15:10] <cjwatson> Worked on finishing off LP process-accepted-bugs-job branch.  Still in progress.
[15:11] <cjwatson> Lots of installer translation updates.
[15:11] <cjwatson> To do soon: verify apt SRU, switch to new archive signing key, sort out remaining LP UEFI bugs.
[15:11] <cjwatson> ..
[15:11] <ogra_> done:
[15:11] <ogra_>  * flash-kernel hiding boot devices post install uploaded
[15:11] <ogra_>  * still researching d-i issues with omap4 server installs
[15:11] <ogra_>  * tested new kernel with omap4 images
[15:11] <ogra_>  * more work on lshw
[15:11] <ogra_>  * got my zatab for edubuntu stuff (allwinner a10)
[15:11] <ogra_> todo:
[15:11] <ogra_>  * wikipages
[15:11] <ogra_>  * finish d-i input and framebuffer isssues on panda
[15:11] <ogra_>  * prepare beta2 images
[15:11] <ogra_>  * research if we cant speed up booting on the pandas before final
[15:11] <ogra_> ..
[15:11] <barry> python issue 15906 (argparse regression); bug 1050071 (thank you cjwatson!); researching bindtextdomain() in glade issue - you must use locale.bindtextdomain() because you need to make the change in both the python layer and the C layer; updated the py3 spreadsheet for rocky raccoon; debian bug 685167 (py3clean is too greedy); the usual gwibber py3 port; done.
[15:12] <cjwatson> rocky raccoon> we don't actually have an announced name yet, do we?
[15:12] <barry> no, i'm just anticipating the obvious, right?! :)
[15:12]  * xnox uses rancid raccoon, but the animal choice is clear now
[15:13] <ogra_> racoons ++
[15:13] <bdmurray> is ev not here?
[15:13] <cjwatson> I'll ask Rick
[15:13] <ev> hi
[15:13] <stokachu> rascally rhInO
[15:13] <ev> can we loop back for me?
[15:13] <ev> still typing
[15:13] <barry> randy raven?
[15:13] <stokachu> that a wrestler?
[15:14] <bdmurray> patch pilot
[15:14] <bdmurray> precise SRU preparation of bug 1007637
[15:14] <bdmurray> researched bug 1049223 regarding empty dpkgterminallog files
[15:14] <bdmurray> working on fixing bug 1039484
[15:14] <bdmurray> review of package to team mapping for foundation's packages
[15:14] <bdmurray> set up auto updating of package to team mapping
[15:14] <bdmurray> testing bugpatterns using quantal (does not work)
[15:14] <bdmurray> rls-q-tracking bug triage
[15:14] <bdmurray> tested bug 1045201
[15:14] <bdmurray> tested bug 946406
[15:14] <bdmurray> irc discussion regarding errors.ubuntu.com and create bug vs link bug
[15:14] <bdmurray> debugging bug 346386 with ursula who encountered it
[15:14] <bdmurray> .. done ..
[15:15] <xnox> * rls-q-tracking:
[15:15] <xnox>  - uploaded fix for autofs bug #488696 with help from mjt
[15:15] <xnox> * ubiquity:
[15:15] <xnox>  - committed bugfix for bug #1052040 which I believe should also
[15:15] <xnox>  resolve bug #1008717 will comment on that bug asking to reproduce
[15:15] <xnox>  with recent images after next ubiquity upload.
[15:15] <xnox>  - committed bugfix for bug #1048464 and other smaller refactoring
[15:15] <xnox>  commits.
[15:15] <xnox>  - manual crypto partitioning in lp:~xnox/ubiquity/adv-crypto and the
[15:15] <xnox>  FFe & UIFe bug #1042649. UIFe granted by documentation team, FFe is
[15:15] <xnox>  not granted yet. Laney from release team, had reservations due to
[15:15] <xnox>  beta1 respin history and therefore abstained from processing the FFe.
[15:15] <xnox>  - progressing with manual lvm partitioning (planning to finish in a
[15:15] <xnox>  branch this week)
[15:16] <xnox> ..
[15:16] <stokachu> - bug 1013798 - haven't had time to spend on this regression. easily reproducible, however, may need some guidance. who's the best pers\
[15:16] <stokachu> on to talk about about this particular library?
[15:16] <stokachu> - bug 988055 - need to setup and reproduce, valgrind shows memory leaks wrt credential re/initialization, tried a upstream patch that a\
[15:16] <stokachu> ddresses it, however, customer still sees a continual rize in vmrss (~4kb).
[15:16] <stokachu> - finish up getting precise diffs for the multi-arch packages that made it into quantal.
[15:16] <stokachu> ...
[15:16] <ev> - Trying to untangle the mess that is top-k for arbitrary date ranges in the
[15:16] <ev>   most common problems table:
[15:16] <ev>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/daisy/+bug/1052954
[15:16] <ev>   Rob has been helping, but I've got a lot more research to do.
[15:16] <ev> - Finished off the Cassandra authentication work and handed it over to webops:
[15:16] <ev>   https://portal.admin.canonical.com/55226
[15:16] <ev> - Long fight of unicode issues in apport-retrace (python3) and Cassandra. It
[15:16] <ev>   took a few tries, but I think we've finally got it all working.
[15:16] <ev> - Taught daisy.ubuntu.com to attach the full submitted report to the OOPS when
[15:16] <ev>   one is generated. This let me get to the bottom of why we were seeing
[15:16] <ev>   timeouts throughout the day - we were trying to write massive kernel crashes
[15:16] <ev>   into the database.
[15:16] <ev> - Filtered out kernel crashes from daisy, as we don't yet have a way of
[15:16] <ev>   retracing these. We increment a counter to help determine how much time we
[15:17] <ev> oh!
[15:17] <ev> and taught errors.ubuntu.com to asynchronously load the color information for the most common problems table
[15:17] <ev> so you no longer have to use launchpad=false
[15:17] <ev> and it should all load much quicker
[15:17] <ev> (done for reals)
[15:17] <stokachu> greenlets?
[15:17] <ev> stokachu: god no - javascript
[15:17] <stokachu> lol ah
[15:18] <stgraber> ev: you cut at "We increment a counter to help determine how much time we"
[15:18] <ev> I'd rather not touch that monkey-patching nightmare
[15:18] <ev> grrr
[15:18] <ev> [16:16:43] <ev>  should invest in this in the future though.
[15:19]  * ogra_ hugs ev
[15:19] <ev> :)
[15:20] <ogra_> now *that* was short ... this weeks release team summary will be a pleasure :)
[15:20] <ev> soz, unicode and adding the submitted crash to the oops ate up a lot of time
[15:20] <ev> plus I worked regular hours this week
[15:21] <ogra_> scary ?
[15:21] <ev> hm?
[15:21] <ogra_> how do you manage the trembling hands when not working ?
[15:21] <ogra_> (regula hours -> scary)
[15:22] <ogra_> (i.e. 8h days)
[15:22] <stokachu> damn we're suposed to stop at 8h???
[15:23] <ev> oh yes
[15:23] <ev> it's tough, but a steady stream of gigs and cosmology talks helps
[15:24] <stokachu> ev, does cosmology involve that stinky green?
[15:24] <ev> stokachu: I have no idea what you're talking about :), but: http://pubsci.co.uk/2012/09/04/september-pubsci-physics-special/
[15:25] <barry> ev: why do i hear ali g's voice saying "cosmology"
[15:25] <stokachu> PubSci regular Dr. John Hamilton will be speaking about his specialist subject – complicated physics stuff.
[15:25] <stokachu> love it "complicated physics stuff"
[15:26] <ev> :)
[15:26] <ev> it's run by a biologist
[15:26] <doko> cjwatson, set 1025295 on the list (unknown section) to resolved
[15:26] <cjwatson> ta
[15:27] <cjwatson> oh yes, we're finished the lightning round aren't we
[15:27] <cjwatson> distracted by ...
[15:27] <cjwatson> #topic bugs
[15:27] <cjwatson> I'm working through clearing our current stuff from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html at the momenet
[15:27] <cjwatson> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html is still not entirely unscary though
[15:28] <cjwatson> please have a look and take whatever you can of at least the high/critical stuff
[15:28] <cjwatson> bdmurray: anything else we should be concerned about?
[15:29] <bdmurray> regarding bug 1045201 I had a look at the server images and they have cdromupgrade on them.  where does this need to get fixed?
[15:30] <cjwatson> bdmurray: yes, I'm going to take care of that
[15:30] <cjwatson> bdmurray: it's actually a cdimage bug
[15:30] <cjwatson> bdmurray: but I didn't want to move it until I'd got it fixed because who knows whether it'll fall off the tracking lists if I do that
[15:31] <cjwatson> I have a kanban card for it for today
[15:31] <bdmurray> okay
[15:33] <bdmurray> I was looking at bug 987212 yesterday and the original reporter replied with an answer to Till's question
[15:34] <cjwatson> bdmurray: might be worth asking Till about it then
[15:35] <bdmurray> cjwatson: okay, he'd moved it over to avahi
[15:35] <doko> he did ping Laney and me yesterday
[15:36] <ogra_> well, he seemed pretty desparate
[15:37] <bdmurray> well, that's all I have for now
[15:37] <cjwatson> ok
[15:37] <cjwatson> #topic AOB
[15:37] <cjwatson> beta-2 freeze tomorrow; get yer uploads in
[15:39] <xnox> =)
[15:40] <cjwatson> guess that's it then :)
[15:40] <cjwatson> #endmeeting
[15:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 19 15:40:03 2012 UTC.
[15:40] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-19-15.06.moin.txt
[15:40] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-19-15.06.html
[15:40] <xnox> thanks
[15:40] <stgraber> thanks
[15:40] <barry> thanks!
[15:41] <jodh> thanks!
[15:43] <ogra_> thanks