/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/19/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

SparksITIs there a device manager for ubuntu, or how do I tell what devices it had detected and installed the drivers for?00:05
AzelphurSparksIT: most drivers are in the kernel so you don't need to install drivers00:12
SparksITthats what I figured, however I cannot output sound through the HDMI and while setup detected my 2TB HDD, it no longer sees in mythbuntu00:14
Azelphurok lets attack the sound issue first00:14
Azelphurinstall the pavucontrol package00:14
SparksITdownloading00:15
Azelphurstart it up and go to the configuration tab00:16
Azelphuris your device there?00:16
Azelphuryou'll have something like "Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output" in one of the dropdown boxes00:16
tgm4883Azelphur, pavcontrol would imply he has pulseaudio, which we don't include in Mythbuntu00:18
Azelphuroh?00:18
SparksITIt looks like it installed but I do not see Digital Stereo HDMI Output, though I did escape out of Mythtv00:18
tgm4883so it's probably best to check if he has Ubuntu or Mythbuntu00:18
Azelphurdidn't realise it was pulled from mythbuntu :p00:18
SparksITI used mythbunut00:18
* Azelphur has no idea how to do this with alsa00:19
tgm4883Azelphur, yea I don't think we've ever shipped that00:19
Azelphurfun00:19
tgm4883aplay -l00:19
tgm4883that would list sound devices00:19
AzelphurMy mythbuntu install seems to be running pulseaudio somehow00:19
tgm4883Azelphur, then you installed something that pulled it in00:20
tgm4883or you ran into an upgrade bug that did00:20
Azelphurmust have00:20
Azelphurupgrade bug sounds like it, I've done a lot of upgrades :)00:20
SparksITI see several devices, include 2 HDMI devices00:20
SparksITwhen I ran set up, I selected both the HDMI's and ran the test, but neither worked00:22
tgm4883SparksIT, have you checked alsamixer and verified that nothing is muted00:24
tgm4883or attempted playing audio outside of mythtv00:24
SparksITWhen I go to PulseAudio Volume Control, I get Connecto to PulseAudo Failed...I don't see a alsamixer00:25
tgm4883is pulseaudio even installed?00:27
SparksITit is an application, I would assume it was installed00:33
tgm4883dpkg -l pulseaudio00:34
SparksITit is listed as unknown00:35
SparksITand not installed00:35
tgm4883ok00:36
SparksITshould I install it?00:36
tgm4883no00:37
SparksITSo I plugged in an usb stick with some avi files, still no sound00:43
SparksITbut in output mode fo alsa audio output, there are quite a few options to select00:44
SparksITso far none have ouput sound00:54
tgm4883SparksIT, sorry, I'm doing like 4 things at once here :/00:55
SparksITno problem, i'm in no rush00:56
tgm4883SparksIT, so in the command line, you should be able to run alsamixer00:56
tgm4883should show a volume control00:57
tgm4883verify  master or PCM is not muted or turned way down00:57
SparksITneither is muted or turned down00:59
tgm4883SparksIT, ok, found what I was looking for01:01
tgm4883do 'aplay -L"01:01
tgm4883aplay -L01:01
tgm4883so different than last time01:01
SparksITcheck...a few more devices have been listed01:02
tgm4883ok01:02
tgm4883so we're going to use speaker-test outside of mythtv01:02
tgm4883using something like this  speaker-test -Dhw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 -c2 -l2 -twav01:02
tgm4883speaker-test -Dhw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 -c2 -l2 -twav01:02
tgm4883where 'hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3' is the card01:02
tgm4883which is what you got from aplay -L01:03
SparksITany specific one, or just start at the top?01:05
tgm4883without seeing the list, probably just start at the top01:05
tgm4883even if I did see the list, I'd probably just guess anyway01:06
tgm4883so the -c2 is going to test left channel then right channel01:06
tgm4883-l2 is going to repeat the test, since on my system it appears to take a second to kick on so I don't actually hear the first left channel test01:06
SparksITso I typed speaker-test -Dhw:Card=PCH,DEV=0 -c2 -12 -twav01:09
SparksITand I get speake-test: invalide option --101:09
tgm4883that is a lower case L01:10
SparksITminus the spelling mistakes01:10
SparksITahhh...in that case i get Playback open error: 16,Device or resource busy01:11
tgm4883hmm01:11
tgm4883try a few more devices01:12
SparksITI move on to hw:Card=PCH,DEV=3 and I get an output that looks successfull but no sound01:12
tgm4883SparksIT, ok thats better01:13
tgm4883go though them all and see if any play sound01:13
SparksITbingo...I move on to hw:Card=PCH,DEV=7 and I heard sound01:14
tgm4883awesome01:14
tgm4883SparksIT, so lets go back into the frontend and see if we can select that card01:15
SparksITback in the frontend, and I am selectin alsa:hw:CARD=PCH,DEV7 and i get that it is invalid or not useable.01:17
tgm4883hmm01:18
tgm4883can you do the speaker-test on the rest of the cards and see if any others produce sound?01:18
SparksITsure...should I limit it to the hw section, I have soem that start with dsnoop, dmix, hdmi and so on?01:19
tgm4883I'd go though them all01:20
SparksITI only found 2 others, test both withen frontend, but I recieved the same error as before01:32
SparksITI re-open VLC and open the avi clip again and selected one of the work devices, and I have sound with the clip01:40
SparksIT*known working devices*01:40
tgm4883SparksIT, ok, so we can select it in other things besides mythtv and it works01:42
tgm4883out of curiosity, can we reboot and try selecting it?01:42
SparksITalready in progress01:43
tgm4883ok01:43
SparksITthat worked01:44
tgm4883sweet01:45
SparksIThate to rain on the parade, but now i get an error that it can not connect to the backend...which is odd has the PC is a host to both01:46
tgm4883ok01:47
tgm4883is the backend started01:47
tgm4883I'm immune to rain. Pacific Northwest FTW01:47
SparksITlol...when I go into the backend, I get a warning that it is currently running01:48
tgm4883ok01:48
tgm4883in the frontend, do you continue to get the warning it can't connect to the backend?01:49
tgm4883like if you go to the recordings screen?01:49
SparksITno, I can browse around, I only got it on boot01:50
SparksITand when I went into the backend01:50
tgm4883SparksIT, ah ok, so your machine is fast enough to boot up and get into the frontend before MySQL and mythbackend can finish starting01:51
tgm4883so you get that error on boot, but then it goes away as the backend finishes starting01:51
SparksITahh...the OS is on a SDD01:51
tgm4883yep that would probably do it01:52
SparksITthe other issue i was having was it is not detecting, by storage HDD, but if you don't have time thats fine.01:53
SparksITyou have helped me out quite a bit01:53
SparksITand I appreciate it01:53
tgm4883SparksIT, I recall you saying that earlier01:53
tgm4883it saw it during install, but not now right?01:53
SparksITcorrect01:53
tgm4883yea, so it's because you haven't mounted it anywhere01:54
tgm4883is it a blank drive or is there stuff on it?01:54
SparksITblank, new out of box01:54
tgm4883ok, what do you plan on using it for?01:55
SparksITstorage, i want all my recording to go to it as apposed to my SDD01:55
tgm4883ok01:55
tgm4883what is the output of sudo fdisk -l01:56
tgm4883use pastebin01:56
tgm4883!pastebin01:56
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.01:56
SparksITyou will have to bare with me, my IRC client is on a different PC then the myth box01:58
tgm4883ok01:58
SparksITbut id does se it at /dev/sda01:59
tgm4883ok, so you are sure it is /dev/sda?01:59
tgm4883otherwise we're going to format the wrong drive01:59
SparksITit as it listed as Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4GB02:00
SparksITthe SDD is only 60GB02:00
tgm4883ok02:00
tgm4883so do02:00
tgm4883sudo fdisk /dev/sda02:00
SparksITI get a message about the device does not contain a vaild dos partiton...02:02
SparksITit builds a DOS disk label02:03
tgm4883ok so it built one?02:03
SparksITsays changes are only in memory02:03
SparksITI also have an erro on device presents a logical sector size taht is smaller the the physical sector size02:04
tgm4883Might want to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive02:05
Zinn[help.ubuntu.com] InstallingANewHardDrive - Community Ubuntu Documentation02:05
SparksITthe instructins say, that if I am sharing between ubuntu and windows, I should use FAT32...I thought FAT32 was limited to 32 GB?02:13
SparksITwouldn't NTFS be a better choice?02:14
tgm4883SparksIT, how are you planning on sharing it with windows?02:15
tgm4883a02:15
tgm4883are you dual booting?02:15
SparksITNo...but if myth does not work out, I will be converting to Windows Media Center, and I don't want to lose any recordings02:16
tgm4883IDK, you might have issues with NTFS and mythtv02:17
tgm4883I'd recommend ext4, but that isn't compatible with windows02:17
SparksITI'll go with ex4, if need be, I'll copy to another HDD if I have to switch02:19
SparksITtgm4883...thanks for all your help, though I'm sure i will back another time02:49
=== zcutlip_ is now known as zcutlip
izzi4Any alternatives or guides to setup rrdtool on mythbuntu?16:04
tgm4883izzi4, rddtool isn't mythtv specific, so any guides for ubuntu should work with mythbuntu as well16:19
izzi4tgm4883, valid point, not sure why i was asking here.  Thanks16:28
zcutliphello--I'm reinstalling one of my mythtv front ends from scratch using mythbuntu 12.04.  During setup when it prompts for the backend's pin, it hangs after clicking "test connection", and I can't skip this step.  Any suggestions?23:43
zcutlipmy frontend was previously 11.10, and I upgraded in place to 12.04, before today's wipe/reinstall.23:44

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